Secretary Marco Rubio went out of his way in this joint presser to emphasize the personal relationship between Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and U.S. President Donald Trump. Orban is facing a serious election challenge this April and all of the EU/NATO systems are actively trying to create pressure points to remove him.
Secretary Marco Rubio is in Budapest today for meetings with Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and his government to include the signing of a civilian-nuclear cooperation agreement heralded by the Trump administration. Hungary is one of the few voices within the European Union who is pushing back against Brussels efforts to go to war against Russia.
Prime Minister Orban has been very critical of Ukraine, openly stating his opposition to EU membership for the embattled country. In response President Zelenskyy has weaponized Ukraine’s geographical stewardship of oil and gas pipelines to shut down Hungarian energy and drive-up prices. VIDEO:
[Transcript] – MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. May I extend my most cordial welcome to all of you, and may I extend my most special welcome to His Excellency Mr. Marco Rubio, Secretary of State of the United States of America, at the press conference and signing ceremony organized on the occasion of his visit to Hungary. Let me also extend my warm welcome to Mr. Viktor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary, members of the U.S. and Hungarian delegations, and all our esteemed guests.
At today’s event, the agreement between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of Hungary to facilitate cooperation on the civilian nuclear program in Hungary will be signed. The signatories to the agreement on behalf of the United States of America, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and on behalf of Hungary, Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade Mr. Peter Szijjarto.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Thank you very much, gentlemen. And now, may I invite Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orban to deliver his statement.
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: (Via interpreter) Good morning, distinguished ladies and gentlemen, distinguished Mr. Secretary of State. This week starts well. It’s only Monday, and we are already over friendly and very serious discussion with the Secretary of State arriving from the United States of America. We agreed upon this visit with the President of the United States on our visit to the U.S. last November, and I’d like to deliver my heartfelt thanks to Secretary of State to – for visiting Hungary and therefore doing a privilege to Hungary.
We reviewed and overviewed our bilateral relationships. There is a new U.S. President, so I am also adapting to the new expressions. A new golden age has set upon us concerning the relationship between the United States and Hungary. We operate with understatements in the Hungarian language and Hungarian politics, but the situation is that I cannot remember – although for 30-odd years I have been present in politics – when the last time it was that the relationships between the two nations were at such a high level, so balanced and so friendly. So, my heartfelt thanks goes to President Trump.
Perhaps the last time we were near this, when President Bush visited us prior to the change of the political regime, which visit greatly contributed to us doing away with the communists and the Warsaw Pact. Since then, we had better and worse periods in the U.S.-Hungarian relationships, but we’ve never been to this high a level.
Since last year’s January, 17 U.S. investments have been decided upon here in Hungary. This is a decade-long record. And Hungarians can once again travel to the U.S. without a visa – thank you very much, Mr. Secretary of State. Hungary was invited to the Peace Council. The first inauguration meeting will take place in Washington, D.C., this Thursday, perhaps where I shall represent Hungary. And we entered into agreements of key importance in the fields of energy, including oil, gas, and nuclear energy. And these agreements, with the exception provided by the President of United States of America which allows for the use of Russian gas and oil here in Hungary, jointly contribute to the fact that Hungary can continue to remain secure on the aspect of energy supply and that we shall be able to supply households and the industry with cheap energy in an international comparison. And we also discussed the refinery in Serbia, how that can be purchased – NIS – how NIS can be purchased by MOL, the Hungarian oil company.
As for me, I assured Secretary of State Mr. Rubio that Hungary continues to support, regardless of European conflicts (inaudible), Hungary shall continue to support the efforts of peace of the U.S. in Ukraine. The current President of the United States did the most in international politics in order to ensure peace in the Russia-Ukrainian war. And I must reiterate, although everybody knows, that if Donald Trump had been the president of the United States, this war would never have broken out. And if he were not the President now, then we would not even stand a chance to put an end to the war with peace. So, thanks goes to the United States President for his efforts in favor of peace.
Hungary remains ready that if there is a peace summit, that we provide a venue for that here in Budapest, and I assured Mr. Rubio that Mr. Trump has a live invitation to Hungary. Thank you very much, Mr. State Secretary, for the opportunity to enter into discussions today.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Thank you very much, Mr. Prime Minister. Now, may I invite Secretary of the United States of America Marco Rubio to make a statement?
SECRETARY RUBIO: Well, thank you, Mr. Prime Minister, for welcoming us here today. It’s an honor to be with you in this incredibly gorgeous city. It’s my first time being here, and it’s phenomenal, even to be in this hall where – and the history behind it and everything that’s going on here.
The second is the relationship – you talked about the golden age, which is not an exaggeration. The relationship between the United States and Hungary today is as close as I can possibly imagine it being. And it’s not just close rhetorically; it’s close in action and things that are actually happening. And I think some evidence of that is here today in the agreement that we’ve just signed that builds on a historic meeting that we had in November at the White House, that you had with the President and that I happened to be – have the honor to be present and be a part of.
The signed agreement we’ve had today is one that we hope will be many in the years to come in areas of collaboration. You spoke about the 17 investments. To those who think that Hungary is being isolated, that’s an example of the fact that that’s not the case – that under the prime minister’s leadership, in fact, there is a growing number of American companies, as evidenced by the 17 that have already arrived, who want to invest in your economy and want to be a part of what’s happening here and are excited about it – because you have strong leadership, because you have leadership that we know are going to protect investments and allow it to continue to be a place that’s friendly for business, and be competitive with rules that are competitive that allow businesses to grow and prosper in comparison to other places. And there are so many other areas that we can work together on, especially on energy, but just so many areas of common interest.
But I have to say this because it’s important to understand. We are entering this golden era of relations between our countries, and not simply because the alignment of our people, but because of the relationship that you have with the President of the United States. I don’t think it is any mystery – and should not be a mystery to anyone here – how the President feels about you, how he interacted with you in his first term as President, and now in his second term as President that relationship’s grown even closer. And it’s important to understand how important the relations between leaders are to the relations between countries. There is – we are – at the end of the day, we are still human, we are still people, and that person-to-person connection that you’ve established with the President has made all the difference in the world in building this relationship and in hopefully growing this relationship even more.
It is the kind of thing that I think, for example, I can say to you with confidence that President Trump is deeply committed to your success because your success is our success, because this relationship we have here in Central Europe through you is so essential and vital for our national interests in the years to come – that if you face financial struggles, if you face things that are impediments to growth, if you face things that threaten the stability of your country, I know that President Trump will be very interested because of your relationship with him and because of this importance of this country to us, to finding ways to provide assistance if that moment ever were to arise, and obviously with regards to finances and the like.
I also think it’s the reason why, in your visit in November, you saw an extension of – and a suspension of the imposition of sanctions and allowed to move forward on energy. It was because of that personal relationship. It’s because we want you to continue, because we want this economy to prosper, we want this country to do well. It’s in our national interest. Especially as long as you’re the prime minister and the leader of this country, it’s in our national interest that Hungary be successful. It helps America, and obviously it helps you.
So, it’s an honor to be with you here today. We have a lot that we can continue to work on. We also want to thank you, and I want to thank you, on behalf of the President of the United States, for the indispensable role you’ve played on the Board of Peace. Not everyone’s on the Board of Peace, and not everyone – for different reasons they can be participants or not be participants, but you are, and you’ve been there from the very first day. And again, a testament to the personal relationship between President Trump and Prime Minister Orban that I think speaks volumes. The role you play geopolitically, the role you play even outside of this region in affairs involving the Middle East, is invaluable and indispensable, and we are very appreciative of it.
And that’s why after traveling to Munich for the Security Conference, I wanted to make sure we paid a visit here to continue to build on this relationship and to signal very clearly that not only are we in a golden age, but we haven’t even scratched the surface of what we can achieve together as a people – as peoples, as nations, and as leaders. And so I thank you for the opportunity to be with all of you here today, and thank you for the very warm invitation and the very important conversations that we had where we touched on a bunch of subjects and a bunch of topics that I think will be of great interest back in Washington when I return. Thank you.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Mr. Secretary of State, thank you very much. We have some time for questions. Hungarian Television gets the floor.
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) Good morning. I am Laszlo Meszaros. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, president of Ukraine, is constantly attacking Prime Minister Viktor Orban for not supporting the accession of Ukraine. What is your take on this political action, this political attack against a NATO and EU member-state?
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: (Via interpreter) And who is the question addressed to?
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) Both of you. Both of you, naturally.
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: (Via interpreter) I don’t wish to drag Secretary of State into Hungarian internal political issues.
(In English) So if you allow me, I start to answer first to this question.
(Via interpreter) The Ukrainians and their president obviously have entered into the Hungarian election campaign. For a while, I was thinking whether we should take that on the wrong note or not. I mean, with such brutal openness entering into the election campaign of another country is not very frequent. You don’t see that often. But then again, I realized it was understandable, because the Hungarian elections is the most important to Hungarian people but it has an impact beyond Hungary as well. And the Ukrainians quite justly believe that what government Hungary shall have is significant to them. And there are only two options.
One is what you knew well – that is the option of the Hungarian people who, at a vote – vote 2025, clearly stated that they would not undertake the Ukraine acceding to the European Union because that would drag us into a war and ruin our economy. And you can also know that we shall not provide money for Brussels in order for them to send that to Ukraine.
The other option, which is a real option, and the Ukrainians would favor that – and with common sense you can realize that if a government arrived which would want or which will accept Ukraine becoming a member of the European Union, they obviously want a government which will take a part in the financial burden of Ukraine – in other words, send money to Ukraine. And for the Ukrainians it does matter what the outcome of the elections will be, therefore they decided to participate in the campaign. And since we stand on the ground of common sense, we must not be surprised at that. We must adapt to it, and we must acknowledge that the Ukrainian president and Ukraine will be an active participant of this election, and we have to prevail against them too. That is our reality. Anything else attached to that – the future of the war, the funding of the war – are beyond the framework of this press conference. I will not go into detail.
I would only return to a single aspect, that this is an election. As an election, people decide. And for Ukraine, it does matter what the outcome of the decision is, and therefore, they put their full weight and weaponry in participating in the Hungarian campaign. We know full well that they fund – finance our opponents. We know how that happens. This is a well-known, written fact.
But once again, we must not be outraged, but we must acknowledge that this campaign in Hungary also has an international dimension – in other directions, too, but in the Ukrainian direction. That is why it’s an important international event, not only for Hungarians, but as the example of the Ukrainians shows, it’s important for other greater nations. That’s how you have to win elections. We have won elections in many ways. Now, we shall win this way.
SECRETARY RUBIO: My only comment is the United States interest is to see the war end, and we want to do what we can to make it end. We’re the only nation on Earth that apparently can get both sides to the table to talk. I’m not here to insult anybody, but the United Nations hasn’t been able to do it. There’s no other country in Europe that’s been able to do it. The United States has been successful at being able to get both sides to talk. I mean, for the first time in a number of years, you have – truly have, at a technical level, military officials from both sides sat down last week in the Middle East. And we’ll restart those talks again in Geneva later this week. I think that’s a very positive thing.
That said, all we are trying to do is play a role, if it’s possible, in reaching a deal. We’re not seeking to impose a deal on anybody. We’re not trying to force anyone to take a deal they don’t want to take. We just want to help them, because we think it’s a war that’s incredibly damaging. We think it’s a war that’s incredibly destructive. We think it’s a war that never should have happened and should end as soon as possible. That’s how the President feels, and the President’s invested a tremendous amount of time and political capital in trying to serve a useful purpose. Usually, in my time observing geopolitics, when a president tries to engage himself in peacemaking and in ending wars, that’s usually applauded.
So, this is one of the few times, for a lot of different reasons – I don’t know what they may be, but maybe I can speculate what they are – where people actually criticize a President trying to end a war. Usually when you’re trying to end wars, the international community applauds you. This is one of the few wars I’ve ever seen where some people in the international community condemn you for trying to help end a war. But that’s what we’re trying to do. That’s what we’re going to continue to do as long as our role is, and our engagement is, a positive one.
And, hopefully, the war will end – the sooner, the better. It should have ended a long time ago. It should have never actually happened. This war should have never happened. This war would have never happened if Donald Trump had been president of the United States at the time it began. But that’s what happened, and so now here we are. So, we’re going to continue to do everything we can to try to bring it to an end. And if we can be successful at it, I think the world will be a better place. And if we can’t, then unfortunately the suffering and the dying and the killing will continue, and that’s not good for anybody, but that’s where we find ourselves. So hopefully we can stop it, but let’s see.
MODERATOR: Next is CBS News. Please, Olivia.
QUESTION: Thank you very much. Budapest is, in fact, beautiful. Mr. Secretary, on the notion of a golden age, why isn’t the United States conditioning deeper cooperation with Budapest on Hungary reducing its extensive and ongoing, deepening cooperation with China, which is a strategic rival for the United States?
Secondly, if, despite President Trump’s endorsement and your visit here, Prime Minister Orban does not succeed and loses the April election, does the U.S. commit to working with his challenger constructively? Prime Minister Orban, do you commit to accepting electoral defeat if it happens?
And to both of you, president – I mean, sorry, Prime Minister Orban has said that the exemption that Hungary has been granted for Russian energy purchases is indefinite. The U.S. has said it was for one year. Which one is it? Thank you.
SECRETARY RUBIO: All right, well, let me start by answering that question. First of all, let me – so everybody can be very clear, I’ve made this point repeatedly. I’ll make it again. Under President Trump, it is our expectation that every nation on Earth is going to act in their national interest. That’s what nations are supposed to do. If the prime minister of Hungary does not act in the national interest of Hungary, he won’t be prime minister for long; but who’s going to act in the national interest of Hungary if their prime minister doesn’t do it? If your government is not acting in your national interest, then who will? By the way, we feel the same way about America.
So, in those instances in which our national interest and some other country’s national interests are aligned, that is an opportunity for extraordinary partnership. And we have many, many areas where our national interests are aligned. Where they’re not aligned or where we have some differences, that’s where that – alignment and the other issues, that’s where this relationship, that’s where these deep ties to one another are so important, because that’s where you can find accommodation. That’s where you can hear each other out. That’s where maybe you can work together on.
But we’re not asking any country in the world to isolate themselves from anybody. We understand that every country in the world has to deal with the reality of their geography, of their economy, of their history, and of the challenges of their future. We will obviously share with partners and friends concerns we may have about certain things. But as an example, the United States – you mentioned China as an example. Okay. We have trade and relations with China. The President of the United States is going to travel in April to China. Why? Because China is a big country. It’s got a billion-something people, second largest economy in the world. They have nuclear weapons. It would be crazy – okay, it’s insane for the United States and China not to have relations and interact with one another.
Now, two big countries like this, do we have differences? We absolutely do, and we’ll have to manage those differences. And some of those differences are things – we’ve spoken very frankly and clearly and repeatedly about the fact that it is not good for the world – it’s not good for anybody – to rely on one country or one economy for 90 percent of anything, especially things like critical supply chains. This is a reality. We want to diversify supply chains around the world. We’ve spoken clearly about it. That’s not an anti-China thing. That’s just the reality that over-dependence on one source is not good, and especially when there’s been a willingness in the past to use it as leverage against each other.
But we expect – we pursue these things within the context of the U.S. national interest. And that’s why we met with the Chinese in South Korea earlier in the year and were able to reach an understanding on some trade matters. That was a mutual interest between us and them. So, geopolitics is difficult because it requires a little bit of maturity and seriousness, okay? It requires a little bit of seriousness about these things have real implications, and the balancing of relations between nation-states requires maturity and seriousness.
So, our relationship here, you asked the last question about it. Look, I’m just telling you guys what it is, okay? The President has an extraordinarily close relationship to the prime minister. He does. And it has had tangible benefits in our relationship. I’m not going to speculate about the future. What happens in this country is up to the voters of this country to determine and decide, and we love the people of Hungary. But I’m not – but there’s no reason to sugarcoat it. I’m going to be very blunt with you. The prime minister and the President have a very, very close personal relationship and working relationship, and I think it has been incredibly beneficial to the relationship between our two countries.
QUESTION: The sanctions waiver, sir? Is it a year?
SECRETARY RUBIO: What’s that? I’m sorry.
QUESTION: The sanctions waiver on Russian energy purchases?
SECRETARY RUBIO: Yeah, but here’s the way I would couch that. Those sanctions waivers happened, as much as anything else, because of the relationship between the prime minister and the President. And so I think all I can tell you is that’s the – that relationship and the importance of that relationship, and the importance of that relationship to our bilateral relationship, underpins the decision the President made and, I think, will continue to underpin it as long as that relationship is a factor in our bilateral relations.
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: Thank you very much, Your Excellency. So, to answer to your question, for those who are relatively young, it’s difficult to know the Hungarian modern political history. But if you look at it carefully, you see that I’m not just registered as the longest-serving prime minister in Europe, which means 20 years, but I’m the longest-serving leader of the opposition with 16 years. So, I spent 16 years as leader of opposition. What does it mean? It means that sometimes I lose, sometimes I win. So don’t afraid what will be if we are not winning, because it’s regularly happened here at least four times already. So, there is no need to be afraid what will happen in Hungary.
The Hungarian democracy is very strong, and the government of this country is very strongly believe on democracy and competitiveness and competition in politics as well, as we have done in the last 35 – 35 years. So, our record is very strong on the governmental side and on opposition side as well. So, a government will be created after the election in Hungary based on the intention of the Hungarian people, and Hungary as a country will remain strong anyway.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Thank you very much. Now Index is up next.
QUESTION: Good morning. I’m Balazs Karóczkai from Index. I will ask my question in English because I think it’s easier for you. So —
SECRETARY RUBIO: (Inaudible) in English than in Hungarian, absolutely. You can ask it in Spanish, and that’s – maybe Italian I might be able to pick it up too, but —
QUESTION: Unfortunately, my Spanish is not so good.
SECRETARY RUBIO: (Laughter.) Okay.
QUESTION: So, Mr. Prime Minister, you mentioned the invitation of President Trump. I have a question for both of you. Is there – have been any discussion regarding a potential visit by President Trump? And if so, when might it take place, and will it be a peace summit? And a brief question is: Have there been any progress toward new Hungarian-U.S. tax treaty? Because the last one is terminated on two years ago. Thank you.
SECRETARY RUBIO: Yeah. On the visit, I don’t have any news for you on it today other than I know the President would love to come and I know the President would love to be here. Obviously, like any world leader, there’s a lot of balancing going on, but we’ll see what happens. I mean, the President has made very clear his feelings about the prime minister, both on a personal and on a political level in terms of the relationship and the impact it’s had on us. And so, I’m certainly here today because I wanted to make sure that, having been in Munich for the Security Conference, being so close by, we saw an opportunity to be here today and build on that historic gathering that we had. I don’t have any updates for you on the tax treaty per se today, but we may soon. It’s something we’ll look at.
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: (Via interpreter) And if you’ll allow it, I’ll answer in Hungarian. So, in Hungarian, all I’d like to say is that it’s not worth planning in the distant future in current politics. I mean, the fact that this Thursday we will meet in Washington, D.C., with the President of the United States was not in our calendar two weeks ago. What I’m trying to say is that events take place and the current of international politics is that significant changes can take place in three or four days. For instance, when the first meeting was called for the establishment of the Board of Peace in Sharm El-Sheikh, you could only know that three or four days in advance.
So, in international politics, it is not long-term planning, but short-term response is what is a real virtue. And the Americans are very good at that. So, the fact that we don’t know anything for certain now does not mean that it will not happen. In fact, it might mean the exact opposite. The less we know anything certain about something, the more possible it might happen. Thank you.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Thank you. And the last question is for Reuters.
QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Good to see you. Mr. Prime Minister. Just two questions, Mr. Secretary. Iran is pursuing a nuclear agreement with the U.S. that it says would deliver economic benefits for both sides. Is that acceptable for the U.S., even if it doesn’t cover Tehran’s ballistic missile program?
Recently a U.S. immigration judge has ruled that there were no grounds to deport Tufts University student who wrote an op-ed on Gaza. A second judge said using deportation as a threat violated the First Amendment rights of people like her because those rights apply to foreigners. What is your response to that?
And, Mr. Prime Minister, I just wanted to follow up on the China angle. Secretary just spoke about balancing relationships. You’ve been pushing a lot for more Chinese investments in Hungary. How will you make sure that that does not create a problem in your relationship with Washington? Thank you.
SECRETARY RUBIO: Yeah, on the two questions you asked, first of all, on the particular case of the student, look, my job at the State Department is if I identify someone who I believe is present – someone who’s not – who’s a visitor, a guest to the United States, and we identify that their presence in our country poses a threat to our foreign policy, to our national security, we’re going to take that person’s visa away. We’re going to take their visa away. That’s what we’re going to do. We’ve done that – in a lot of cases over the last year, we’ve done it.
Fact is that visas are not a right. I’ve said this repeatedly. I don’t know why it’s so hard for some to comprehend it, so let me repeat it again. A visa – no one’s entitled to a visa. There is no constitutional right to a visa. Okay, a visa is a permission to enter our country as a visitor. If you enter our country as a visitor, and as a visitor in our country – be it a student, a tourist, a journalist, whatever you want to be – and you undertake activities that are against the national interest and national security of the United States, we will take away your visa. In fact, if we knew you were going to do it, we probably wouldn’t have given you your visa.
That’s what we do. The decision to remove someone from our country after we take away our visa, that belongs to other agencies of our government. As far as judges are concerned, judges – that’s a different branch of government. They’re not going to tell us how to conduct the foreign policy of the United States. If they have an issue with the process by which someone was removed, then obviously that’s an issue for other agencies in our government that are involved in enforcing that. All I can opine to you on is the – is taking away someone’s visas. And no judge is going to tell the Executive Branch how to conduct foreign policy because that’s not up to judges. That’s up to the Executive Branch.
On your first question about Iran, look, doing a deal with Iran is not easy. I said it yesterday; I’ll repeat it again today. I mean, we have to understand that Iran ultimately is governed and its decisions are governed by Shia clerics – radical Shia clerics, okay? These people make policy decisions on the basis of pure theology. That’s how they make their decisions. So, it’s hard to do a deal with Iran. We’ve always said it’s hard, but we’re going to try. That’s what the President is trying. I’m not going to prejudge those talks. I’m certainly not going to negotiate with Iran here in front of the press and on the stage. Our negotiators are on their way there now. They’ll have meetings. We’ll see what happens.
We’re hopeful there’s a deal. The President always prefers peaceful outcomes and negotiated outcomes to things. He’s a President that’s shown his willingness to talk to anyone and meet with anyone. And I think if there’s an opportunity here to diplomatically reach an agreement that addresses the things we’re concerned about, we would be very open and welcoming to that. But I don’t want to overstate it either. It’s going to be hard. I mean, we’re dealing – it’s been very difficult for anyone to do real deals with Iran because we’re dealing with radical Shia clerics who are making theological decisions, not geopolitical ones. But, let’s see what happens. I hope it works out; we all hope it works out.
PRIME MINISTER ORBAN: (Via interpreter) I can answer in Hungarian, right? There is a fact that we must take into consideration in every international relationship of ours as an (inaudible), and that is that we are members of NATO. This means that in the field of security issues, that determines the boundaries of cooperating with others. In fact, in security issues, Hungary only cooperates with NATO member-states. Anything beyond that, including commerce, trade, we are in favor of cooperating with as many entities as possible. And if our cooperation does not – is not liked by any of our partners, disliked by them, they will indicate that to us. And if they do so, we shall discuss the matter.
I have been working together with Americans for over 30 years now. President Bush, Sr., was the first president I met. I don’t know how many I’ve met since, and I do have an experience pertaining to Americans. It is best if you share with them everything openly and clearly. We play with open cards – open, visible cards. Our partnership is built upon clear speech, and if we do not like anything, we tell our partner. And if the Americans don’t like anything, they will share that with us.
And I can report to you that since there is a new President, there is not one single point of conflict. I have never come across any of those in the field of our cooperation with the United States. That was not the case, previously. When we had a Democrat administration, we had multiple conflicts. We still openly represented our position, but we could not cooperate with that administration. We can with the current one.
But one thing has unchanged: Hungarians always say what they want, for what reason, what they object against, what they can support, and what they ask. We are a reliable partner because we are open. We are in favor of open, clear speech. And as I observe the current President of the United States, he represents the same school. He is very straightforward. He says what is the interest of the United States of America. There are no taboo issues. We can discuss any issue, including the issue of China and any other issue. And I think that is to the best.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) Mr. Secretary of State, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you very much. This concludes our press conference. Thank you very much for being with us today. I wish you a pleasant remaining part of the day. Goodbye.


Ukraine is attacking Hungary by weaponizing energy access. Hungary and Orban are allies of MAGA, AF and President Trump.
Ukraine is the enemy.
And Brusells
Brussels getting Ukraine to shut off energy is sure one way to get people to “eat zee bugs”.
“AF?”
Guessing America First; not the urban
dictionary version 😂
I would suggest that Ukraine is the proxy for the actual enemy.
No one will remember the Munich Conference of 2007, and so I am leaving this well written retrospective and analysis of that event, hoping all who pass through this thread will read it.
I have often said that Donald John Trump is President by Divine appointment for America’s sake. It is impossible for me to believe otherwise.
And while I’m sure there will be many who will disagree, is it not possible that the same could be said of President Putin for Russia’s?
Two strong men whose paths have crossed at this moment is surely not serendipitous.
I often wonder…even more so since I read this Substack.
It filled in a lot of blanks in my inadequate knowledge. I am certain it will do the same for others.
“MUNICH 2007: The Day the West Was Told No”
https://islanderreports.substack.com/p/munich-2007-the-day-the-west-was
Great read; thank you for sharing, Betsy.
It’s 100% spot on. And, as long as you don’t buy the BS, it ties directly to elections here in the U.S., Canada’s ties to the EU, and the mass illegal immigration permitted and facilitated by all Western nations, including the U.S. under BHO and accelerating under Biden.
Trump going after Venezuela is not an accident, nor is it ancillary to NATO and its actions, USAID, and the fraud in not just Minnesota, but many other states.
The dots are there; people need to stop being ignorant. “Hey, look, it’s an Epstein list!” “Hey look, they killed an ‘innocent’ person” (who is actually a paid agitator hindering U.S. law enforcement).
Oh, look, again: EPSTEIN!!!!
NO SERIOUSLY LOOK ITS AN EPSTEIN LIST!!! Just don’t look over there, or under that Minneapolis rock, or that one there as well!
I think those who would undermine or pervert the sanctity of our individual votes in pursuance of deciding who governs our own country for their own power’s purposes have long been practicing elsewhere, Horse.
And here.
The world, while getting smaller, is still a very big place. One which most Americans pay no attention to. Even an education system worth the name cannot possibly begin to adequately enlighten generations which follows ours…and that is an inherent danger for the preservation of this Republic. I don’t know if we can ever fix that.
But that aside, it’s a terrible thing to consider that the monstrous crimes of Epstein would be used to divert the short attention spans of a woefully ignorant public from events which through President Trump are spending and destroying the godless machinations of dangerous, evil men and women in the employ of the prince of this world.
I wish I could believe that no one would be that depraved. Alas, since 2008 I have come to understand what sort of world it is…and the sorts of people for whom doing exactly this is the work of a second.
I wish it weren’t so, but…
Betsy always comes through.
She is always impressive.
I meant to say these things are ancillary….sigh.
No need, dear sir. I understood…
Paul,do you notice that in the scamdemic and then mass immigration all nations basically acted in Lockstep?
Thank you Betsy for the link and message!
You are most welcome, Darby 👍🏻
Great read. I remember that speech by Putin and all the pearl clutching that followed.
He has made so many speeches, Little, which telegraphed that he knew the agenda. He has not demurred from forthright speaking. In more than one, he has addressed the depravity of the West and in another explained to the people in the West that it was not they, rather their leaders, who were the nexus of this intractable war.
I thought I’d saved his words but cannot find them; so I used my search engine to try…
And what did I find?
Entry after entry of the pot (US/NATO/ Enemedia) calling the Russian kettle and President Putin “depraved”.
I know what I heard and read, all never seeing the broader light of day.
The more which is uncovered in our own backyard, the more hideous those pearl clutchers become and the truths spoken undeniable.
Exactly, Betsy. Putin and his emissaries, who have spoken at the UN over the past decades, have said nothing different from what was stated in the article, including their stated aims in Ukraine. They have done neither more nor less than what they laid out. The only escalations have occurred after Ukraine (i.e., England) sent drones into Russia.
Everything is right in front of us, if only people would look for themselves rather than allowing themselves to be directed by talking heads or fraudulently elected officials.
Something which I think is very telling, my friend…
Archbishop Viganò delivered remarks on the occasion of the first meeting of the Federation of Russophiles.
The opening….
“The Russian Federation undeniably stands as the last bastion of civilization against barbarism…”
He goes on, the link below.
I wonder if President Trump is aware of this significant letter to the Federation. Viganò also penned two beautiful, urgent letters to him, one in the October before the 2020 election which I leave also.
I guarantee that most Americans will be unaware of these two extraordinary epistles (and that’s a terrible shame) from a man whom I feel the Almighty speaks through. A holy man who is always watchful and who I know has the ear of our Saviour.
When I lived abroad for a long time and received the education of a lifetime which I did not receive from the university here where I received my expensive degree, I became aware that most Americans thought the world started/ended on the East/West coast…which is something I have posted previously a few times.
I’ve been back in America for twenty years, and nothing has caused me to change my view.
What an absolutely shameful situation…
All the better to receive whatever lies and propaganda from the usual sources and the manipulators who wish to obscure, even suffocate, the truth.
https://www.pcpbooks.net/solitary.html
https://onepeterfive.com/arcbishop-vigano-an-open-letter-warning-president-trump-as-the-election-approaches/
Accidentally touched the flag on your comment, Betsy. I would never do that intentionally. Truly sorry about that.
I hope Ad Rem will fix it. I put the comment link in a post to bring my error to attention.
If I could tell you how many times I have done the same to others, Peace…
Please don’t worry. I would never know.
For future reference and to the best of my knowledge, it takes 10 times.
Thank goodness I always say to myself when my fat finger with a mind of its own hits the wrong spot 😉💕
Plus the wolverines are wise and discerning
Oh yes…we are.
Archbishop Vigano is an amazing intellect and a treasure 🙏🏻
He’s so gentle, Lepanto. So quietly spoken. But what he speaks and writes of should leave no doubt that we are in a terrible war of the spirit…and for our souls.
I don’t know if he still in hiding. God protect Your devoted servant 🙏🏻
Beautifully said, Betsy.
Amen
CUT THE CORD
I love you, Ms. Betsy.
Oh Intense…. thank you for transforming my day from ordinary to very special.
From my heart to yours, my friend 💕 Bless you…Bet
Dear Betsy thank you very much for all the information you pass on….. that also includes Mr. Sundance..👍
Bless, LtoL…I am so happy to share anything I find which might be relevant and of interest 👍🏻
Oh my gosh! Yes! And what immediately came to mind is a book I recommend to everyone for everything, because it does truly explain everything even though it was written focused on businesses. But it applies to everything because we do the same things in every organization we are involved in. Businesses, charities, churches, denominations, governments, universities, all the same, because they are all populated by us, people. No matter where you go, there you are.
The author has a website in which he lays out the Five Stages of Decline. It ALWAYS begins with … hubris born of success. That sure sounds like “the end of history” to me.
https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/five-stages-of-decline.html
Thank you for this, trapper. I am familiar with the title and look forward to reviewing the other four stages.
And yes, oh yes…
Hubris!!
The undoing of men and empires since the beginning of time.
The more things change, this never has and will not.
Thank you!
🏴🏴🏴💪
Absoluteoy, dear friend 💕
As per usual….. excellent article Betsy….Thanks!
having followed both Jeffery Sachs and John Mearsheimer since the beginning of the Ukraine con/grift….. BEFORE it officially became the “Special Military Operation”……I found that this article consolidates or focuses many of their inconvenient Truths into an easy to read explanation, without the numbing minutiae and voluminous corroborating anecdotes that typically accompany their essays/lectures…..which necessitate a dedicated allotment of time to fully appreciate. 👍🏻
I am so glad you read it, Clayton.
An event which escaped worldwide attention , the significance of which message was missed by those in attendance it seems.
Such is the arrogance of people with illusions of power and with no moral centres.
Pure pearls coming from one whom I consider one of the sages of this community.
I so admire that even more than your wisdom your ability to share it so amicably without provoking all the human defense mechanisms we all spike when we debate.
A must read for anyone interested in Russia’s point-of-view in 2007 as well as today. Hillary is over there spouting for NATO to Tomahawk Russia to death. We’ve been told that she is a Peace-Nik, far from it. If there is a war between NATO and Russia, who benefits? Communist Red China, that’s who. They’ve had the Clintons in their pocket for years.
Please take the time to read the islanderreports.
Oscar Wilde wrote that “some people cause happiness wherever they go…
Others whenever they go.”
This…this…this death merchant is a monster.
I’m sure she believes she will live forever.
I look forward to the day I can sign her off with the above quote.
Thank you Betsy, it was great to read!
Good evening Betsy. Thank you for providing the link to this well, written analysis. It also has filled in a lot of blanks in my knowledge and helped me to understand certain aspects.
Have a blessed evening.
Yes, a great read! I didn’t know about the 2007 event until I read this. Thanks, Betsy.
Excellent article. I had remembered a Putin warning at around that time, but I forgot it was at the 2007 Munich Conference when W was still President. The most striking thing in all of this is the blind arrogance of generation after generation of European and American “leaders.” Or is it just corruption? Or puppet strings? Or a combination of all three?
All…plus hubris on a massive scale I think.
As an Australian I must add my vote of thanks to you Betsy Jones for so much enlightenment.
Excellent article Betsy. Thank you for sharing. It goes hand in glove with the many articles Sundance has published naming the names of the US Presidents who pushed NATO towards Ukraine regardless of promises and warnings from Putin. We were told “NO!”, and told what consequences would be, but we ignored the warnings.
NATO is Pinocchio, but US policy is Geppetto! In the same vein, US Presidents continue to be Pinocchio while the CIA and its horde of institutionalized control freaks is Geppetto.
And then we must consider, as it is paramount, the dire warning of President Eisenhower concerning the “Military Industrial Complex”. They drive every policy and decision of the Intelligence Community, and produce the phony security briefings for the President. They are always couched in how they can drive the control narrative versus statements of fact leaving the President to decide based on wisdom and truth. The truth is not in them!
If the US doesn’t come to the aid of its remaining European alllies, it won’t have any in that region.
What is wrong with this scenario that is currently playing out?
It demonstrates equivocation and needle threading rather than a firm stand with the “good guys”.
Since we haven’t stomped all over the CIA controlled Ukkraine war machine we are showing the world we don’t have the courage of our convictions nor the intestinal fortitude to flip the table on the warmongers.
Maybe we don’t have the power to do so — yet.
This is coming to the aid of our remaining European allies; not everything requires bombs, missiles, and people dying. The fact that Rubio said what he said at the summit, followed by his visit to Hungary, is coming to the aid. Sometimes words carry more weight than the weapons of war; one kills people, the other unites.
Unity is a powerful tool.
And as NATO has already said, it has no power without U.S. backing. They all talk big in the safety of their private meetings and rooms, but they all fold and capitulate when put on the spot and in public.
Do you believe US allies such as Hungary would benefit and be grateful for help in solving their energy crisis?
What would bombs and missles accomplish to that end? Nothing but death and destruction.
To help an ally in the battle to empower, save and restore Christian Civilization is the highest good.
The United States is trying to change things anyway you can by that I mean Donald Trump, and our current government. We cannot fight everybody’s fight. They need to stand on their own. We have Blood enough for the rest of the world. We need to take care of ourselves.
The only way we can aid the European people, who despise their governments, and are our only true allies over there, is to eliminate the globalist puppet-masters of their so-called “leaders.”
If we want to assist in the effort to remove globalism and Islamo-communism in the West, America must be willing to remove the likes of Bill Gates, the Soros’s, the Buffets, Pierre Omidyar, Eric Kessler, and the managers of the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations, among others.
And this without even mentioning the City of London and its many tentacles.
Anything less than the elimination of these tyrants is unserious, magical thinking. Without their removal, the world will sink into an even worse tyranny than we suffer even now. These are the enemies of mankind, and they must be eradicated.
I agree. Bit I believe it is necessary to see THROUGH Ukraine to identify the international criminal organizations that use Ukraine as a money laundry in order to identify the true enemy of the US, and of the West generally for that matter. We can’t just paint the barn. We have to eliminate the rats.
And rats are sneaky and resilient bastards.
Hungary elections are coming in April.
EU appears to be doing all it can to get rid of Orban.
Praying 🙏 he wins!
On this, ‘Presidents Day’,—-
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.
Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence therefore it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
Washington’s Farewell Address
Too bad we didn’t listen…….
Ukraine is the pseudo enemy. The real enemy is the CIA/WEF/EU.
NATO is the enemy!
Look out JD, Rubio is outshining you and making you irrelevant for 2028.
Rubio has much more experience.
He has the political chops for it.
If– only if– he could withstand the slings & arrows & remain faithfully MAGA — he would be my #1 choice for our next president.
He certainly has a great role model for the job. 👍😁
If Rubio were to run for President in the future and be successful, he’d need to run as an Independent.
3/4 of the country is never voting for a Republican again.
That’s the only way he peels off votes.
What are you talking about? Serious question.
He’s talking about a splitter candidate.
Maximum Overdrive, Au Contraire, Mi Amigo.
What are you talking about?
im voting Republican and never voted any other way.
Vote Republican or enjoy Mundumi….the choice is simple
my ideal ticket – Marco Rubio & Tulsi Gabbard for 2028
The VP office has become a deadman’s zone.
I would never wish that for Ms. Tulsi.
Perhaps she should take the Sec of State role…..at this point she knows so much about the other nations’ leaders…..
JD will make a great VP for Marco.
I don’t see it quite that way. I see Sec Rubio in the beginning stages of a multi-administration position as Sec State. He is in his element, and could very well end up high on the list of the 10 best Secretaries of State ever. JD is doing what VPs are supposed to do: sit back, participate where directed, and be ready at a moment’s notice to take the helm. It’s a thankless job, but he’s doing it properly. And he also has the intellectual chops to know WHY 47 is doing what he is doing, and to project it into the future because he understands and supports the foundational principles.
Things are humming along nicely. Lots of football between now and 2028.
Hungary is hugely indebted to China; President Trump offers a chance to escape.
How did the indebtedness of Hungary to China occur?
Thank you, Sundance!
Always appreciate reading here on the CTH about our Secretary of State Marco Rubio and what a great job he is doing!
Blessings to PM Viktor Orban.
Hungarian elections happen in April.
I pray that whatever malignant machinations are being orchestrated by Soros pere (Hungarian by birth) et fils in collaboration with EU warmongers to overthrow the righteous, patriotic Orbàn fail utterly.
This one will be a pivotal election one way or another.
Yes, God bless and strengthen this man as he fights for his homeland and her people 🙏🏻
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Lets hope they have voter ID and no smartmatik voting machines connected by internet to Venezuela, China, or other enemies
It was very apparent to me that these two men are on the same page, to the point of being able to handle any provocative question with ease, confidence and mutual trust. Notice how there were no “clarifications” needed?
Little wonder that that punk Zelenskyy and the increasingly irrelevant Brussels crowd are interfering with the Hungarian election.
President Trump and leaders like Orban will lead to a golden age.
The one thing that is a must have is like minded individuals who believe in their sovereignty and cultural heritage and aren’t afraid to show it and govern like it.
Could we ship them LNG via Poland?
There was a fantastic YouTube on Orban a few years ago, it was deleted, not sure if it’s back.
He sounded just like President Trump.
His role is to protect his citizens, that means keeping illegals, who have no intention on following our laws, out.
We thought, he’s a President Trump!
His country is extremely fortunate to have him, surrounded by the enemy.
🦅✝️🇺🇸
MAGA VS COMMUNISM
The EUCaliphate hates MAGA, AF….Just like the Demarxist party
Hopefully the Hungarian people will stand strong and re-elect Orban. His has basically saved their country from the mess that the rest of the EU population is facing with the migrant issue. Last I heard, Orban is overwhelmingly popular with Hungarian voters.
The remarks by Prime Minister Orban are really quite complimentary, beyond mere diplomacy. Very nice to hear.
Winning!
I would guess these April Hungary elections will determine if US has successfully halted or substantially defunded NGOs in Hungary. A reasonably believable election result without 50.5/49.5 result will be telling. A minimum of 55/45 will tell there has been successful defunding.
And maybe if lucky, foretell our own November elections. At minimum, the US is a 55/45 country and probably closer to 60/40 or more.
Love Orban. Budapest and the rest of the country are vibrant and thriving under is leadership.
Dear Ad Rem, I mistakenly touched the flag one of my favorite Treepers’ comments. Please fix. Here is the comment:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/02/16/secretary-marco-rubio-joint-press-conference-with-hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban/#comment-12416073
Unfortunately, there seems to be no way for readers to undo an accidental touch of a flag.
Is it at all possible that this part of the system could be modified to allow such an error to be corrected by the person who made the error?
I am British.
I fimd Marco Rubio to be a very impressive fellah and an excellent communicator of American policy and values.
Also, based on his past history , I am surprised to be writing the above statement.
Both his views and communication have changed a lot from 10 years ago. This has surprised a lot of us.
Both Rubio and Orban each have a good sense of humor. Rubio: “…in English than in Hungarian, absolutely. You can ask it in Spanish, and that’s – maybe Italian I might be able to pick it up too.” Reporter: “Unfortunately, my Spanish is not so good.”
If the EU was prepared to steal the Romanian election as brazenly as it did, we can bet they’ll cheat from here to gone in order to keep Prime Minister Orban from being re-elected.
Rubio is deluded when he thinks Europe can afford to build up a strong defence.
I recently heard Konstantin Kisin saying to David Starkey:
Europe is 12% of the world’s population
25% of the world’s GDP,
and 60% of the world’s welfare spending
While at the same time we are no longer able to make virgin steel in Britain because of the industrial and economic suicide we call net zero. Rightly called net zero because it has produced net zero growth in the last 20 years since pursued.
My comment:
the UK and EU simply cannot afford to spend what the US is demanding from them while they squander so much on welfare spending – most going to unproductive and lazy parasites and the administration of the welfare spending – and have foolish climate policies .