The premise of this interlocutory exchange is beyond bizarre when you think about it.
President Trump’s negotiation team worked with Ukraine officials and Russian officials to establish the parameters for a ceasefire proposal. Representatives from the U.S, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, working as moderators for a cessation of hostilities, held multiple meetings with high level Ukraine and Russian officials, including Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin, and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
As a consequence, President Trump’s team (Rubio, Witkoff and Kushner) have spent hundreds of hours, including nine entire days over the last two weeks, in detailed face-to-face discussions with Ukraine officials.
Zelenskyy then goes to Paris, London, Brussels and Rome, to consult with European leaders, and then has the audacity to say he will present a counterproposal from the Europeans to President Trump.
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY – “Today, we already discussed with our negotiating team the results of yesterday’s work in London, which was conducted at the level of the National Security Advisors of our European partners. This was agreed upon yesterday at the leadersʼ level.
We are working very actively on all components of potential steps toward ending the war. The Ukrainian and European components are now more developed, and we are ready to present them to our partners in the U.S. Together with the American side, we expect to swiftly make the potential steps as doable as possible.
We are committed to a real peace and remain in constant contact with the United States. And, as our partners in the negotiating teams rightly note, everything depends on whether Russia is ready to take effective steps to stop the bloodshed and prevent the war from reigniting. In the near future, we will be ready to send the refined documents to the United States. Glory to Ukraine!” (SOURCE)
If Zelenskyy is representing Ukraine, then why didn’t Zelenskyy put his proposals into the agreement during two weeks of discussions with the U.S. delegation?
Is Zelenskyy representing Ukraine, or is Zelenskyy representing European stakeholders?
I know, rhetorical I guess…..
In the interim, and throughout this process, more young Ukrainian men are dead.
Zelenskyy is a fraud, he is comfortable on the American taxpayer money we are borrowing. He and the Europeans can GFO. End all support, send them a bill for our time and let Russia do what it’s going to do. Enough already.
I am getting a bumper sticker for the Dodge “Puck Ukraine”
He is, but then why are so many from Congress so eager to play to him, and to give him whatever he wants, no matter the cost?
Is he just playing the part so the money circus can be kept running?
Who is the bigger threat?
We have more fish to fry than just Z.
Desire for lines of toot > Desire for ending the conflict, branch and root
“In the interim, and throughout this process, more young Ukrainian men are dead.”
What about young Russian men?
And what about young North Korean men?
Yes, many Russians, too, but many more Ukrainians. Factually, there is no scenario in which Ukraine can win this war.
There is a possible scenario: the European nations that are supporting this horrible war can not only put money but also troops were their mouths are.
I hope that does not happen, and I hope that would lead them to realize that the war really does need to end..
There is a possible scenario: the European nations that are supporting this horrible war can not only put money but also troops were their mouths are.
I hope that does not happen, and I hope that would lead them to realize that the war really does need to end..
They do not have the troops, nor the artillery, nor the finances.
And none of that is going to materialize.
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If the Europeans would outfit their newly-arrived Muslims in Ukrainian uniforms, they could keep the war going and solve at least one of their major problems. Has anyone thought of that?
No, I don’t want the Nobel Peace prize for that one, not right away. Let’s see how it works out.
If the Europeans would outfit their newly-arrived Muslims in Ukrainian uniforms, they could keep the war going and solve at least one of their major problems. Has anyone thought of that?
No, I don’t want the Nobel Peace prize for that one, not right away. Let’s see how it works out.
Even if the EU had the weaponry (which they do not and will not have), only a complete moron would arm hoards of angry, uncontrollable muslims.
That is not an option.
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Follow the points carefully. Sundance was speaking about one of the Main Costume People -Zelensky and his disgusting Travelling War Telethon
“Z-Man” loves the cash
Atlanta, Kansas City, etc…
What is the history of the money picture? How specifically did it get to where it is in the picture? Who took it? Did our congress approve / know about this specific batch.
Think of it as a metaphor
We (USA) need to get out of NATO. This will collapse NATO, and with it the EU. Then European countries will be free to pursue their own interests to do whatever is necessary to remove Islam.
They can’t remove Islam; its too pervasive thanks to their open arms. Islam will remove the remaining native folks of European descent instead. And I hear Obama has bought a mansion in England, maybe pre-planning to become Muslim King of Europe.
zelensky is but a leaf of grass that will soon fade away.
What is your definition of “soon?” I don’t know how much longer I can take this before I lose what’s left of my mind.
This sideshow is and always has been utterly absurd. GET HIM OUTTA HERE – I never want to see his face again.
Exit stage left – already!
Z, is a weasel.
Let the Russians have him and his wife as she has profited from this game of steal the $$$ also.
The true tragedy of this are the deceased Ukrainians, should this battle continue Ukraine will no longer exist.
counter proposal, now that’s funny
They really seem to want to end NATO. Are they a caliphate already?
Please, pull the plug on this grifter along with his European stooges. Allow them to go it alone. We, the U.S. has done more than enough.
Might be overlooking the cokehead puppet’s greatest leverage against the US with the exemption of PDT. How many US Senators and House scum have taken kickback cash? Blackmail is a powerful motivation to keep the river of dirty money flowing
I’m betting most Americans don’t give a pho-k about Ukraine. I bet most Americans couldn’t find it on a map. I bet a large majority of those Americans who do care about Ukraine, you know, the ones with the label pins, haven’t served a day in the Armed Forces. And bet further that they’d crap their pants if their children had to serve. Ditto for Russia. Don’t care. Want Western Europe? Have at it. Europe can’t defend itself? Too bad. Guess they should have spent more time on their military. No more Uncle Sugar. No more American guarantees (that be American blood). No more money (that we really don’t have). NATO has served its purpose. The Cold War is over, time to stand down. Time to spend attention on us (that’s the U.S.)
Time to come home and rid the USA of its own corruption.
Cleaning up the corruption in our own Congress is the most daunting problem we have. Much more so than cleaning up Zelensky’s mess. He and his wife, fresh off the cover of Vogue like the life style that to which they have become accustomed.
The USA must b removed from NATO and leave the illegal, proxy ukraine war + the newest security guarantee demands from z to the EU… our country has been played since the manufactured Maidan Revolution of 2014, the bottomless banc acct is bankrupt. It’s time to cease repeated efforts to end this proxy war and focus on the USA…
WHATEVER IT TAKES… end this war and place the billions already appropriated back in to the US Treasury!
Everything you mentioned, Trump is working directly on. Everything.
Yup, and a lot more.
If I were Trump, I would wash my hands of the whole thing. Let Russia take all of Ukraine and be done with it!
An ageeded upon peace plan offers a lot more future stability.
Who cares – not our problem.
It is rightfully Russia’s – let them have it back. They will have the best intentions for that country.
Whiskey bottles, and brand new cars
Oak tree you’re in my way
There’s too much coke and too much smoke
Look what’s going on inside you
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of death surrounds you
Wow, brutal and to the point.
If Z is able to get up in the morning, tie his shoelaces and take a pee, I’m not proud. I’m amazed.
(Thank you, Sheriff Buford T Justice)
kudos for mention of Sheriff Buford T. Justice.
Zelensky is an untouchable member of the oligarchs. He is by nature venal arrogant and bloodthirsty.
When the oligarchs get really ugly – they go after their own. Shark eat shark.
The only way this ends is if the United States pulls all support and walks away. Ukraine would go bankrupt overnight, Zelinsky would be deposed, and the war would be over. Otherwise, Little Z is going to keep doing his impersonation of Lucy with the football.
Habakkuk Chapter 2, verses 9-12. Is in store for Zelenskyy
Here is the counter, with no negotiation. The United States will never put a dime in to NATO again and we are withdrawing from it. Also the United States will never spend another dome on this war. And because of the European sabotage of the deal we will be tariffing every country in NATO 200%.
The Europeans don’t want peace. I think Trump should bow out. We are wasting our time.
Trump should wrap up his mutual economic agreement with Russia.
Let me guess. They’ll stop if we give them more cash, forever…
Coke drag boy having to run to the globalist slobs and the Clowns In Action to Europe is proof of who is in charge.
This whole issue is becoming more and more absurd. Enough! Everyone close their wallets, send Z back from where he came and go home. This is becoming a sick joke – why does not Trump put an end to it? It’s the same story day after day with no apparent end. For heaven’s sake, everybody just go home. This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.
When will the Ukrainians remove this little punk who sends young men by the tens of thousands to die? Our Congress has given him millions of taxpayer hard earned money yet he and the European elites piss down our back. Please, please President Trump, cut the EU completely off. The snobs have undermined our national interests too much. Let’s not shed a drop of American blood for them again.
Just walk away from Ukraine already. What a great Christmas gift that would be for the country.
The European counter-proposal will be very simple and straightforward:
And don’t forget to throw in the American Troops.
Youve got it.
$800 MILLION in the NDAA for Ukraine: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/just-house-passes-900b-military-defense-bill-hardline/
Disgusting! Americans need that money for jobs! Step away from this manufactured, proxy war and put Americans 1st!!!
He cares not about young Ukrainian men. He cares about his Swiss Bank account balance and those of his European handlers. We really must stop sending these vampires our hard earned money.
I’m sure Trump would like to walk away from the corrupt idiots running Ukraine.
That is politically impossible for him. The majority of Americans want the USA to support Ukraine. There is a 2/3 majority in both the House and Senate that would continue to pass aid packages for Ukraine and could override any Trump veto.
Sorry – I think the majority of Americans have finally seen the light and that it is approaching at the speed of light. The only reason Congress would give the midget more money is for the graft it would bring to them personally. Period, end of story.
I can’t believe I’m seeing this. After all this time and years spent talking about this, what subject could possibly be left to discuss? Somebody has lost their mind and needs to be locked up.
Probably another “return to 2021 borders, let ‘bygones-be bygones’, & we’ll talk about Crimea later” type deal??
At least now he won’t have read the original.
Don jr said that half the luxury cars in Qatar had Ukraine license plates