Put this in the ‘beyond ridiculous’ file that explains the current situation of a contracting European economy; specifically, in the auto sector.
Europe has fines associated with the production of gasoline powered engines if the auto company doesn’t hit targets for sales of electric vehicles. The fines triggered this year. In order to avoid paying the European fines the auto makers are forming alliances with Chinese EV makers to purchase carbon credit offsets.
In essence, EU car companies buy Chinese car company carbon credits, to avoid the EU fines. The Chinese car companies can then use the carbon credit revenue to subsidize lower priced Chinese EVs to the European car market, thereby undercutting the European EV car companies. BRILLIANT!
MILAN, Oct 21 (Reuters) – Automakers have formed alliances to help them avoid hefty European Union fines on carbon emissions by purchasing credits from electric vehicle companies. Several legacy automakers face potential fines as the transition to EVs in Europe has proved slower than expected in recent years.
EU fines – which automakers have said could reach up to 15 billion euros ($17.5 billion) – were initially envisaged on 2025 carbon emission levels. In March, however, the European Commission yielded to pressure from automakers and allowed compliance based on their average emissions over 2025-2027. (read more)
Nissan is purchasing carbon credits from China’s BYD (Build Your Dream). South Korea is purchasing from Xping. Mercedes and Volvo are purchasing carbon credits from Chinese automaker Geely.
BYD and Geely are selling super cheap EVs into the entire EU car market. lol 😂 You can’t make this stuff up.
The EU economic offset plan? Let’s go to war with Russia.
Brilliant!
Isn’t this like paying the devil for indulgences?
Right along side of “Blessing a block of Ice.” We need to terminate important associations with these literal idiots as fast as possible. Decouple, Decouple. No NATO, no backing their stupidities in the Ukraine. Buy as little as possible. Take your vacations here at home.
When I was young with small children, I could not afford to indulge in consumerism.
Much later, I still don’t indulge in it because I learned that it is highly overrated. It makes oligarchs filthy rich & consumers dirt poor. I have no need to accumulate stuff that I clearly don’t need.
Edit: vacations were camping trips with the kids. I don’t enjoy sleeping on the ground anymore so vacations have been canceled in favor of visiting family. No airlines needed.
I choose to fly twice per year because my kids and grandkids are halfway across the country, and it saves time. Besides, at my age a twi day car trip isn’t very comfortable. Plus my son pays for my tickets.
“Two day”. It wouldn’t let me edit.
In 2014, when I took my mom home for her last remaining sibling’s funeral, I swore I’d never fly again. The absolute worst experience ever or so i thought.
I went to the same place for my cousin’s funeral earlier this year. She was the last one left that I’d do that for. An even worse experience than 2014. Nope. Never again.
I’m not opposed to other people doing things I don’t like to do. Your reasoning is sound, the cause, worthy & even if I didn’t agree, it’s okay. I wish you many more trips to see your children/grands!
We Don’t fly any more. That’s after a career of being in the air virtually every week. If I can’t drive in one day, we don’t make the trip.
Had my financial adviser over last week. Told us he refuses to fly, even though he has air miles. Asked him how many he had……3 million .
maybe he can redeem them for carbon credits?
Very audacious indeed! 👍
.
Flying. The Greyhound Bus trip of your dreams, but with lousy food!
Indeed! My mom was on hospice care in 2014 & riding a wheelchair. TSA made her walk through a full body scanner… bastids that they are.
I opted for the very public mauling. I was asked if I wanted a private mauling but I refused. I wanted God & everyone present to witness what they do.
I’m unwilling to be subjected to either process or a “real id.” Thanks, I’ll just pass on flying or entering federal buildings.
If I can’t get there on my 4 wheels + ICE then I’m not going. No problem.
I am 70, been married for 46 years never took a vacation to go somewhere other than a cabin for a few days, spent the rest of them relaxing at home. We never felt comfortable wasting the money on a trip lest we would need it later for something necessary.
Now we are on vacation everyday and the money is still growing. Hate airplanes and now we would need real ids to prove we are citizens in our country we have always lived in and paid taxes, served military etc. If we want to fly now. Now the principal of it rubs us the wrong way.
I still buy too much stuff that I don’t need and have no place to store. Trying to break the habit because what you posted is true.
I’m praying for your success!
thanks for the mind jog, our best vacations were camping meandering road trips in a 15 passenger van that smelled a bit ripe with a red canoe on top or headed skiing for first tracks. I drove, counted heads, and laughed all the time
Good times! Great memories all around!
I agree!! Saddens me because there is so much beauty in the countryside of Europe… would not ever go back there… total scratch off the list.
Soon you won’t be able to go back there. Either war with Ukraine will spread or the Islamist horde will start killing. Europe does not have the will to save itself. UK leadership is turning on its own citizens?
Total agreement .
(period)
It’s almost like starting another religion so that homosexuals can serve as pastors, or so that one can marry as many times as one desires.
Humans are funny.
Very much like paying the devil for indulgences. They have a new false idol – their Climate god. They would rather commit suicide in an offering to their new god than admit they were mistaken to abandon the real God. They are in the thrall of Satan, and they either don’t know it or are doing it willingly. It’s only more reason to pray that the sane patriots of Europe will be successful in throwing off these demons. There are those who are clearly trying, and all Christians should be assisting them in whatever way they can.
The entire concept of “carbon credits” is asinine. A scam on many levels.
obama was the author of it in chicago years ago.
Carbon Credits is a false market created by people who do not believe in markets.
In layman’s terms, EU is collectively shooting itself in the head.
“Stop or I’ll shoot!”, yells the man holding the pistol to his head.
The same level of idiocy has the EU.
Agreed,
But as Sundance says;
“Seek first to understand. . .”
The impact credits are obtained by creating land Conservation Easements
Utilizing a Land Bank
*( This bank DOES NOT LOAN $£€s.
It exchanges credits)
So, when European Farmers lose family farms
Global Private Equity
Uses tax credits
Exchanged through a land bank
For conservation easements
This locks that land up in perpetuity. . .
So the EV threshold creates the need to conserve land. . .
This is filled by taking family farms
Spoiler alert:
They do it in the US too
___________
What does this matter?
It’s all gobldygook. . .
NEVER OWN A FAMILY FARM
hold the land in trust
And
Hold LLCs in trust
Operate the farm in an LLC
The farm leases the structures from a holding LLC
Hold equipment and vehicles in another LLC
and you can lend to and from
Get to a 0% tax bracket
And never lose the farm
Just fyi for anyone who could use it
Don’t get mad
Get even
Be well
Do good
Live free or die
The land,
Is the land
The farm,
Is a business
The structures,
Are real estate
The equipment,
Is a depreciable asset
The Labor and equipment is where all the liability resides
This structure decreases taxes, insurance and liability
Control it in trust
Utilize LLCs to
Control
Administrate
Manage
Execute and hold
Don’t draw income
Except as a contractor with deductions
Every other entity yields benefits and dividends
Be well
Do good
Live free or die
I like it, Sir. Duly Noted.
can you do this with a house?
You need LLCs
NOT FOR TAX
to limit liability. . .
Hold them in Trust. . .
_______
If you have a mortgage it is more involved
If you have a mortgage
And equity
Create a Trust
securitize the equity through a HELOC
Lend Equity to the Trust
Notify Mortgage Company of Estate plan
And change Title to Holding LLC
held in Trust
Check State Laws
Retain appropriate counsel and CPA
…and they have all imported millions of cultural enrichers that the vast majority of live off the social welfare systems in those countries. So when it all collapsed, I’m sure everything will be just fine.
The Euro automakers are paying for their own demise. Priceless!
Lol
I initially asked myself if the EU were either stoned, or merely stupid. But, the reality is that they are simply a bunch of religious zealots.
They are baal worshipping not zees
baal was a
transsexual
Who demanded sex worship
Child sacrifice
and
War
He also controlled the environment. . .
Do you see it now?
It was never about
“The Jews”
It’s about the wolves in sheep’s clothing
Who hate the Hebrews
Religious zealots with an active suicide pact.
The EU still has 8 times the GDP of Russia. Of course, Russia doesn’t have much of a GDP.
And I’d still rather buy a BMW or a Mercedes than a AvtoVAZ or a GAZ.
Ill keep my 11 y/o American made pickup thanks.
Same here with my 11 year old Malibu!
And my twenty year old Equinox.
And I’ll keep my 34 year old Ford one-ton which absolutely refuses to wear out. I had it repainted six years ago and it still looks like it just came off the lot.
Buy Japanese they are better cars ..
Not anymore.
Bought my last Honda civic last year. Non-hybrid, which I had bought 3 times since 2003. I’ve been educated on lithium battery environmental impacts.
EU debt sits at 15.2 trillion Euro(US$ 17.6 trillion)
About 88% of the EUs GDP.
23 y/o F150 with NO electronics!!!
“In essence, EU car companies buy Chinese car company carbon credits, to avoid the EU fines. The Chinese car companies can then use the carbon credit revenue to subsidize lower priced Chinese EVs to the European car market, thereby undercutting the European EV car companies.”
The carbon credit system is working exactly as intended by those who created it. Wealth and economic power are being repatriated from the former colonial powers to their “victims.”
Not coincidentally… essentially the same scenario is playing out with regards to Russian oil and gas, with the EU importing it at inflated prices through Indian-flagged tankers.
Electric cars are about
-data control and sale
-Battery technology
-controlling movement
That’s it
That’s the memo
China, the world’s worst polluter, has also reaped the biggest payday from the green energy scam. Limp Eurocrats can’t seem to get enough of being mastered by someone, anyone, except themselves.
And it’s not just in Europe. Who makes the vast majority of those crappy Energy Star appliances which quickly clog our landfills? They’re gaining EV market share here as well. And they’re ramping up production of their climate-approved ships, just waiting for the next UN maritime tax vote.
Which reminds me. Dump the UN, and boot them from our shores.
The UN, EU, NATO, US ADMIN, CCP and G4
INTEL AGENCIES
are all City of London Money
their masters will rule or ruin
The pollution
Isn’t a bug. . .
It’s a feature
If anybody cared to dig into the ownership trail of those China Inc. EV Car Companies you will find (surprise surprise) the same EU car companies (buying those credits) as a major share holder, if not owner of the China Inc. EV Car Company.
In the words of Dark Helmet from Space Balls the Movie … Ludicrous Speed NOW.
Not only are the China Inc. EV cars being subsidized by the EU carbon Credit purchase, the EV companies are being capitalized by the same EU Car Markers buying the carbon credits.
The EU Car makers may have just save President (and China Inc. CEO) Xi’s life.
EU automakers have been forming JV’s with China Inc. Car Companies for the past 20 years. Even St. Elon Musk owns a China Inc. JV (one of the places he invested the 2009 Bailout and US DOE Green Money he was gifted by Obama).
Britain controlled large swaths of China in the past and many of the Royals still travel to Hong Kong….. PS…. it’s because they still run the show.
You read too many UK Novels. The only thing UK royals run are the runs in their shorts.
The “royals” and rothschild’s
Are actors on a stage
_______
Millionaires don’t practice astrology,
But
Billionaires do.
– JP Morgan
_________
The “British Bloodlines” and the other families
Ceeded control to the Chinese bloodline family. . .
I won’t name
When they yielded Hong Kong
This was done at a specific solar and lunar occurrence
As their god
Demands. . .
_________
the devil
Offered Jesus Christ
All the kingdoms of the world
For one act of worship
The Belief that mere humans can rise to power
Without doing the same
Is supreme naivety
Don’t believe me. . .
RFK jr
Said;
” COVID targets. . .
The groups that are most immune are
Ashkinazi . . .
and the Chinese”
If you know
You know
RFK jr knows bloodlines. . .
A shit show of a shell game
Spot on, I said some of the same..
the world reads more like Alice in Wonderland everyday.
Well they’re going to steal the Russian people’s money & they’ve just started giving Ukraine cruise missiles to shoot them with too.
They’re definitely nutz. I don’t think that they can claim that they were attacked to trigger A5. I say let them go their own way.
If the EU simply enforced the border and turned off government, letting industry sort out economics, life might arguably be better. Of course, that presumes a reasonably homogenous culture within each nation state.
Paying the assassin to assassinate us.
Cranial rectal inversion.
We got our optometrist confused with out proctologist and ended up with a sh!tty outlook..
WORDMAN clean up on aisle 9….
Lol… my jinxy
This is exactly how Tesla got their start, ultimately dominating the US EV market. The kicker was California’s oppressive emissions taxes on ICE vehicles. Elon realized that the penalties for ICE emissions were going to be disastrous, so he bought an EV startup called Tesla and sold carbon credit offsets to the other auto manufacturers. By the time the US auto industry decided to pivot into EVs, it was far too late and Tesla had a manufacturing advantage at scale. Ask GM and Ford how their EV projects are going today.
Yes, 43% of Tesla’s revenues come from Carbon Credits.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/18/musk-tesla-climate-credits-trump-00198794
That’s why Elon couldn’t give a crap about how ugly the Cybercar looks, the point is it is a huge zero emission vehicle optimized to avoid a Class 3 Truck weight designation.
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/teslas-crafty-move-carbon-credits-the-extender-gvwr-and-payload.10318/
There’s a connection, ideological and philosophical, between the ugliness of cyber trucks and obama’s brutalist monolith he calls a library, and many other architectural examples.
They project anti aesthetic values which oppress rather than elevate the human spirit.
Truth is beauty and beauty is truth.
‘…the ugliness of cyber trucks and obama’s brutalist monolith he calls a library… project anti aesthetic values which oppress rather than elevate the human spirit.
Truth is beauty and beauty is truth.’
Insightful.
There are also myriad other things oppressing the human spirit in 2025 America, in this vein.
Examples:
Horrible bland computer-generated “pop music” everywhere. Horrible insipid mediocre grade C movies flooding the entertainment space. Ersatz imagery flooding media so that we no longer know if an image is real, thus potential for beauty is undermined in all imagery. Very harsh LED lighting flooding our environment for no good reason, with harmful blue spectrum content, automotive headlights the harshest.
Yes. Ridiculous AI “art” — at least I think it’s AI. Simply a world full of ugliness. Lots of building going on in our area. No trees, no green hills….just ugliness. And, yes, I go to some favorites on Instagram to hear the old music from the 1960’s and 1970’s when music was created not some creepy no-tune crap from a computer!!!
Truth, beauty, and goodness.
All three have gone missing.
Well i’ll be a carbon credit ie i’ll be a monkey’s uncle if dumb and dummer are not at work again.😳
Maybe it’s best if Islam takes over Europe.
As bad as the Euroweenies are… It’s never good for the indigenous population when islam takes over.
Absolutely not. Western Europe is currently being run by the communist thugs of the EU, but even as bad as that is, Islam would be far worse. But the communist thugs are under attack, and they don’t have much time left before they are turned out. Islam is a cancer that is far more difficult to eradicate than communism. Europe – and the United States – have to eradicate both.
They’ve been given over to strong delusions.
1984: War is Peace, Insanity is Wisdom
ROLMAO.. They could just close the doors for 3-6 month and see if they don’t change their tune with all the laid off workers prowling the streets
What a great incentive for all of them to shutter their factories and move permanently to the USA. Let EU starve. You can’t fix stupid.
We should repeal the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 first.
Then, we can discuss terms to include vetting and economically valuable skills.
Who are Ford and GM scamming for their sh!tbox EVs no body wants? I read not long ago they were trying to somehow retain the $7500 Tax Credit and when that became radioactive I then heard they are just eating it now.
This economic order is a shell game in front of a Ponzi Scheme. How about manufacturing vehicles consumers want?
Consumers?? As in customers??
What are those?
It has been clear for a long time that the automakers en masse swallowed a whole bottle of green pills, hang what their customers wanted.
“Let them drive EVs!!” they decreed.
No thank you.
That doesn’t even make sense. Why? Why? Why?
Who dreams up self destruction of their own economy this way?
Leftists.
It is the Finance Capital – that is the World Banking Families, plus the Intelligentsia and some ”minorities” versus the Industrial Capital -that is the Owners of Industry, Energy etc, plus the Industrial Workers. The last american elections are a symbolic picture of this war. The Owners of the World Debt (”About 307 Trillion $) wish to destroy the Industrial/Consumer Society and form a New Feudal Society. Instead of the Aristocracy of the Landowners we will have the Aristocrats of the Digitalmoney Owners, ruling over a much smaller world population. No industry > no factories > no industrial production > no consuming > no consumers of industrial products > no need of useless non-consuming people. Just the essential population for the reproduction of serfs. It is he PatriotInternational versus the Globalists. ‘There are trillions at stake’! (Some years ago Sundance had posted repeatedly the nightmarish picture of the future globalist city….)
Sorry – ”It is the Finance Capital – that is the World Banking Families, plus the Intelligentsia and some ”minorities” versus the Industrial Capital -that is the Owners of Industry, Energy etc, plus the Industrial Workers” AND THE FARMERS !
Not a goof long-term strategy, as even in China, EV sales are slowing so much that fanboys CNBC are calling them out.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/chinas-byd-cuts-2025-sales-target-by-16percent-sources-say-a-sign-its-white-hot-growth-is-cooling.html
Maybe Elon Musk should sell carbon credits to the EU at a cheaper price than China.
Just sayin’….
Reminds me of the steel works in England which was losing bigly because of emissions penalties (and union shenanigans).
An Indian giant, Tata Industries, bought the steel works cheaply, then proceeded to shift production to India and impost back into England.
Net result? Same or even more emissions (less regulation in India), loss of hundreds of jobs (and all the personal, familial and societal ills that that entails) and loss of GDP.
We might think the Eurotrash elite are stupid. They are not. They know EXACTLY what they are doing. They are filling up their bank accounts while destroying the lives of ordinary folk.
e.g. Lords and Dukes who own vast countryside properties, lease out space to windmill companies for 100’s of 1000’s per year or more, while average Joe pays high electricity prices.
Eurotrash elites are vile, evil people. Legal thieves.
Tata also owns Jaguar and Land Rover.
Why not remove the fines?
Well David if we removed the fines we wouldn’t get their money see and we like money.
This is a theater of the absurd.
Shame on you, Sundance.
You forgot to include the part where Putin was bankrolling the anti-fracking movement in EU.
If we follow this back far enough, we can probably figure out where stupid began.
The Euroweenies weren’t gonna frack jack, ever, Putin or no.
But thanks for playing.
The EU is like a person trying to swim in quicksand, knowing full well that he is going under soon and nothing can stop it. Now in utter insanity, they believe that a war with Russia will solve everything.
Aw, they just want a distraction so their people won’t come after them…
Nuts!
This is hysterical!!!
Why am I thinking of, “Who’s on first, what’s on second?”
Assisted Suicide
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha…
I’m from the EU ‘gubmint’ and I’m here to help!
Just jumped in for a laugh. EU has turned on the gas towards ruination. Whatever country can come on in and stomp’em to death. This is not a movie.. 🍿
I suspect they are taking the same drugs ANTIFA takes when they hit the streets.
The New Normal that most pretend not to notice. Only thing slowing it down temporarily is Trump and there is no replacement for Trump in 2028. The Club and all their captured Con Inc. influencers are investing a lot of resources into the illusion of choice scenario for 2028, So tic toc
“Not to worry,
ComradesMuslim Brothers — we’re gonna make it up on volume!”The electric car, the perfect vehicle for smuggling contraband. Just replace the battery pack. They are readily imported and exported to and from most all countries, with hardly any notice. Didn’t have to be Auric Goldfinger to figure that out. And that’s whom Soros reminds me.
Blathering idiots.
It is very extremely upsetting to see car accident scenes these days – of course, they have always been horrific and I generally avoid watching such news – sometimes though on the local news channel website, there will photos of cars damaged in crashes and it seems to me that they are especially horrible in the recent past because the cars look like they are made out of Christmas wrapping paper, twisted and torn and so how could such cars be safe for the people driving and their passengers?
Seat belts, air bags – what good do these do when the entire vehicle looks like it is warped and crushed out of all recognizability of safety?
Also, this incredible lightness of being, doesn’t that possibly contribute to the accidents where a vehicle can bounce off the median curb and turn over easily, flipping over and over?
Someone told me that they HAVE to be made lighter to qualify for CAFE standards regarding fuel consumption – the lighter the vehicle, the lower the fuel consumption. Do I have that right? Does that explain why cars these days look like crumpled Christmas wrapping paper in the aftermath of accidents?
I’m no engineer but when the Indy cars got too fast & were ki!!ing drivers at inordinate amounts, they changed rules to slow cars down & made the cars to “explode” but that sheds “energy” or “inertia” and drivers walk away from grizzly looking crashes these days. (did cursory look @ YT but did not find anything, should be a video there about new designs)
That engineering went right into today’s new cars, the downside is every wreck is a totaled car & insurance rates skyrocket.
Indy 500 track also re engineered the corners with softer walls at the areas of most accident sites.
EVs are heavy for size, low center of gravity makes for a powerful wedge under other vehicles. And battery catches on fire everyone in and around become Maui fire fried.
Beauty is as beauty does. The same is true for stupidity…
Europe: “I will pay you whatever you want if you will kill me”
Lol, that’s about it.
So the EU economic ministry fines the industrial base of its’ member states and uses the money for what?
They continue to steal the frozen Russian assets in Euro Clear and spend the money on what? Buying antiquated weapons from our MIC to keep the Kiev money laundering project churning?
Germany never was concerned when we blew up Nordstream. Its’ a clear Article 5 act of terrorism and war against a member state of NATO. But not a peep. Remarkably weird.
Ever since then the German economy spirals into a depression with no solution in sight.
And they are changing entry rules to incorporate what is left of the devastated Kiev regime and stole a 2nd election to absorb Moldova.
European “values”. Trump needs to exit NATO and withdraw all our military out of Europe now. We can’t afford these vassal states. Useless.
‘Germany never was concerned when we blew up Nordstream. Its’ a clear Article 5 act of terrorism and war against a member state of NATO. But not a peep. Remarkably weird.‘
Some suggest:
This is another clue that it is all theater coordinated behind the scenes by veiled puppeteers colluding to steer all major superpowers for a common goal: The planned NWO with a diminished US/EU under coordinated global control.
And the only entities with the means and motive to effect such veiled coordinated steering are the superpower ICs. As in: All of them working together behind the scenes.
Don’t believe it? Consider the following, all verifiable by public information:
Why did the US NIAID fund the development of the covid virus, subsequently transferred to CCP lab for final development and released?
With the matching modRNA bio-weapon development already started by DARPA, rushed to coerced mass deployment against only the US axis when the virus bio-weapon was released, with modRNA bio-weapon mass production managed by DoD, backed by propaganda and censorship coordinated by the CIA through the program which started as Operation Mockingbird in the 1970’s?
Don’t believe our own government is controlled by veiled entities colluding to sink the US to a degraded surveillance/police state under a surveillance/police state New World Order? Start here:
ae911truth.org
Biological weapon research, of which our government continues unabated, was focusing on the family of Corona virus due to the relative ease to weaponize it.
This research was being conducted at Chapel Hill, University of North Carolina. Due to the illegality of this activity it was outsourced to China. (So much for the narratives of technolgy “theft”).
Concurrently our Pharma Corporations were obtaining patents on “vaccines” for a virus variant that was framed as “unknown” origin when it was released or “escaped” the lab(s) it was being created. There were 117 patents issued before anyone allegedly knew of this virus.
At the time Trump was boasting of spending billions on Pharma Corporations working on “warp speed” vaccine research.
My question: Now that the scam has long been public and undeniable, why isn’t Trump initiating an investigation to bring the Pharma executives and government enablers to account?
Circular like the chips and AI schemes.
The idea is getting more chances at taking a percentage. The more middlemen are involved, more numerous the opportunities for self-enrichment.
It’s no wonder why the cost of things have become untethered to economic fundamentals over time, ie Wall Street vs Main Street. Everything has become financialized.
“to subsidize lower priced Chinese EVs to the European car market”*
Also can be used by the CCP to buy large numbers of houses in the Seattle area to rent back to Americans.
I will here attempt to amend Maj Gen Smedley Butler’s comment, if you all don’t mind me:…
… – [When Banksters are running the show…] – *Everything’s* a racket…
… – *Got That*?… – Mmkay… 😉
Are carbon credits like green stamps?
When you fill a small book up ya get to go to da carbon store an redeem your credits like green stamps?
I want to buy a desiel powered lawn mower that blowes desiel fumes on weeds to kill them.
There is probably an old Allis-Chalmers tractor out there that is Diesel that you can put a 3 point mower deck behind but might be a little too big & clunky for your yard unless you have about 5 acres or more.
It does bring a image to my mind of a Zero turn mower spouting plumes of smoke out tho, that would be sure to ki!! a Karen or 2 and bring out the HOA police to fine, berate and chastise you tho.
You can offer up your “green stamp” book for the carbon credits for it tho. LOL
Does make me wonder if any were made for the Euro market so they could avoid paying the health care taxes build in to “petrol”.
I know there was a rush to switch cars to propane to avoid it. I don’t know how it works now days tho. (also why Euro’s have lots of diesel cars to avoid healthcare taxes on petrol)
These bureaucrats are completely nuts.
Do not represent the ordinary man in the street.
Make lampposts great again!
Who dreamed up the EU as an economic model in the first place? John Maynard Keynes?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’d say blame politicians and not the auto makers. Why do you think we got saddled here with the useless start/stop technology? You think that was the automakers making bad decisions? It was CAFE compliance black mail. We have the political clown class in the US as well.
No down side to it for auto makers, sell more starter motors more often.
<Can you say Ca Ching $$$$$$ along with more expensive batteries AGM & EFB. $$$>