Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is once again rejecting any consideration for President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss terms for a ceasefire without his involvement.
On a Twitter storm Saturday, Zelenskyy rejected the thought of giving any Ukranian territory to Russia in exchange for peace. “The answer to the Ukrainian territorial question already is in the Constitution of Ukraine. No one will deviate from this—and no one will be able to. Ukrainians will not gift their land to the occupier,” Zelenskyy said.
President Trump announced that he would meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin on August 15, in Alaska.
Zelenskyy reacted, carrying the message from the global intelligence community who support the ongoing conflict, and does not like the idea of the USA and Russia determining the outcome for Ukraine.
Zelenskyy has banned opposition parties in Ukraine, taken control of media, targeted religious groups who he claims are subversive to his interests and cancelled elections in order to remain in power. Now Zelenskyy hides behind the claim of a constitution his regime modified in order to ensure he alone controls the pathways to peace.
(Via NBC) – A defiant Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after President Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.
“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.” (more)
It has been reported that Vladimir Putin’s ceasefire terms include Russia totally controlling the Donbas region.
WASHINGTON – […] Under the proposal being floated by the Trump administration, Russia would agree to a freeze of the war along the contact line in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Moscow controls less land than in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, a person familiar with the matter told POLITICO.
In return, Russia would be allowed to keep the Donbas, said the person, granted anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy, as others in this article.
U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff returned from a meeting with Putin earlier this week and told Trump that the Russian president had presented the terms under which the Kremlin would agree to stop hostilities in Ukraine, a White House official told POLITICO.
The official declined to describe Russia’s terms, but Trump said land swaps between Russia and Ukraine are under discussion. (more)
President Trump does not view a meeting with Putin as a concession.
Simple. Slice off a piece of southeastern Poland and give it to Ukraine in exchange for Russia keeping the Donbas. Call it even.
Who would decide that?
I’m being sarcastic, John. If Z doesn’t like the deal President Trump negotiates, cut our aid to Ukraine. He cannot pursue war without it. Now there’s a risk that Putin would take all of Ukraine in that event. But I’m sure President Trump can get guarantees that won’t happen if President Putin gets what he needs in a deal.
Not something to joke about.
Note.
Sarcasm is not always intended as humor / joking.
It is often applied to illustrate absurdity or unreasonableness by proposing a “solution” that’s just as absurd or unreasonable.
4Dbark is obviously employing the second application.
lighten up Francis
and cut our “aid” to NATO otherwise cutting our aid won’t work. all or nothing and do you really think the senate will go for that? At least the BBB has passed and Trump has veto power against any Ukrainian funding bill… however, we have so many RINOS…. ouch!!!!
And de-funding Ukraine (ending the war) and exiting NATO could end up being good campaign issues for those looking to primary the GOPe RINOs.
Poland is a sovereign nation, no one has the right to give part of it away. Also the Ukrainians hate the Polish as much as the Russians. If you don’t understand what I am talking about watch the Polish historical movie ‘Hatred’.
https://tubitv.com/movies/621581/hatred
It would never work, just lead to another war in Europe.
I do understand. Poland has been sliced and diced over the centuries by many outsiders.
I read James Michener’s book years ago. I will check into that movie.
The Ukrainians don’t hate the Russians…
The Ukrainians speak the Russian language, and consider themselves Russians…. It was the Ukrainian Cossacks that revenged the burning of Moscow by cutting Bonaparte’s French Army to shreds…
Subdivision of Ukrainians into Western and Eastern would be of use in the general context.
Additionally, Poland is tired of Ukrainian refugees running from their Z leader!!!
Poland is as sovereign as Maine is sovereign. Poland is now part of the EU the last time I checked. The EU Central Bank in Frankfurt and the London Central Bank have their hooks into the Ukraine and that is the issue. Oh, and by the way….there is already a war going on in Europe and President Trump is trying to keep it from spreading.
Oh, the Slauson Cutoff.
+1 for the Art Fern reference 👍
How about we slice off the part with Lviv in it and give it to Poland. Much more historically correct.
Lutsk also, while you’re at it.
I wonder what Rep. Hank Johnson 🤔😅😅😅
Perhaps he frets less about capsizing Guam now that global warming has caused the ocean to rise a whole nine inches. He’d make an entertaining ambassador to Ukraine. 😆
Could someone please stuff an Oreshnik missile in John Bolton’s venomous gob?
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
seconded.
Turd.
I quite liked your comment on page 1. First thing I thought of when I heard “Alaska” this morning was “oh, that’s brilliant.”
No gate-crashing from Zelenski, Starmer or Macron. Europe must be panicking right now. Someone should be paying close attention to capital flows, btw.
Historic meeting on American land with Russian roots. The possibility of the land bridge being talked about…
So much goodness in this choice of location.
More than just a meeting place. It’s quite symbolic to hold the meeting where our two nations are so close to each other geographically, as we are close together in so many other aspects.
I agree whole heartedly. A lot of people will discover that Russia is our neighbor.
They are also our ally and have been since the American-Russian Alliance of 1858. They’ve never violated it.
President Trump and President Putin respect each other…
If allied, the USA and Russia could rule the entire world…
“A lot of people will discover that Russia is our neighbor.”
A Christian neighbor at that.
Sources say they will talk on Palin’s front porch.
yes, so they can gaze fondly at Russia from there
also for consideration:
Thank you for your attention to this matter
USA and RUSSIA are just 2.5 miles apart between…DIOMEDES ISLANDS…..
Sarah Palin can see Russia from her backyard.
A bridge?
Tell me more…
I don’t know!
First, Putin wants a guaranteed chunk of Ukraine.
What if he wants to reclaim a chunk of Alaska next?!
🙃😁😂 Just kidding!
Make it a double please!
I think this could be solved if Putin and Zelinsky engaged in hand hand combat. May the best man win – personally I’m on team Putin.
The idiot is now a dictator. He needs to hold elections, period.
Hard to have combat where the best man wins when the contest is between a man and a boy……..
How about an arm wrestle?
dance-off
How to fix the problem in two steps:
We’re already half way there: theAmerican-Russian Alliance of 1858 is still in place.
And tell NATO and the UN to “go to HELL”!
So if this is a proxy war between the UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA exactly where does zelenski fit into that? If the United States and Russia agree to cease this proxy war zelenski’s opinion doesn’t matter. The United States deep state killed many Ukrainians and Zelenski’s take is we need more death?
Zelenski’s take is he needs more money. And to stay in power.
Ukraine elections will almost certainly be part of any peace/ceasefire resolution, which will likely require multiple steps to get to a legal signed peace treaty.
The parrot’s take on it is that its battered golden cage has always been too small for his outstanding loyalty.
The war doesn’t stop the money and military hardware do, and then all of Ukraine will fall to Russia. Putin sees Odessa as a prize too. It is the best seaport on the Black Sea, way better than Sevestapol. Russia needs all the warm water ports it can get. Their Baltic and Pacific ports are froze over a good part of the year.
Plus a lot of Russians vacationed in Odessa under Russian rule etc…
“So if this is a proxy war between the UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA exactly where does zelenski fit into that?”
Rule Number One: Follow the Money ! ! !
Think of Ukraine as a really big laundromat. Instead of cleaning clothing it launders dirty money. There’s lots of dirty, blood stained money to be had in the business of war, especially if you’re a global bankster.
It’s a business as old as kings, and castles, and peasantry to plunder.
It’s not the US people vs the Russian people. It’s the exploitation of both by the global banksters who, by the way, are not to fond of Trump spoiling their access to the spoils of war.
Oh my lord.
Not this little loser again.
Zelenskyy has lost the war. To the victor go the spoils. Putin is holding the winning hand.
President Trump is playing the role of a fair and just arbitrator.
Z is fortunate President Trump set a time limit on Russian momentum in taking over Ukraine.
NATO has lost the war. I highly doubt the Russians are viewing Trump as an arbitrator, but rather the decision-maker on American involvement, which is a prerequisite for maintaining the war. And since Ukraine isn’t at the table, there is no one to arbitrate between.
President Trump is playing arbitrator among NATO/EU warmongers, CIA/Deep State money laundering and Ukrainian citizens who want to retain their country and heritage while counterbalancing the interests of ethnic Russian speaking people of the Donbas who voted to rejoin Russia.
A famous Democrat Congressman discussing Vietnam sometime in the late 1960s said…
“Just declare victory and leave!”
It was good advice then and even better advice now!
That’s it exactly. I’m surprised no one has said that. . .
And actually done it!!
Hopefully, it happens now, Lorraine!
Trump setting a “time limit” was a mistake… Russia is fighting a war and can’t just end it on whatever day Trump says it should end.
Russia can do whatever Russia wants. But yeah since Trump set the timeline it must be wrong.
I say place the Super-egoist and the Degenerate both in a sealed room and let them battle it out. No more youthful lives taken. Done. Period.
The main difference between Putin and Zelensky is that Putin certainly seems to be a much more successful dictator and war monger and so many people do like a winner.
No wonder Earth has never been visited by beings from another planet. The whole place must be under quarantine for the well being of the rest of the galaxy..
Might want to give it a rest. There are only so many ways one can express the same idea. I think you’ve found them all.
..
Smile sign
Thank you for your concern for my getting a proper amount of rest, but both P and Z are absolute mother loads of material and P has been experiencing a gross lack of critical attention here as compared to Z. .
At least one person here has got to try to level the playing field a bit anyway or it just looks like a one sided lynch mob.
If you would be so kind as to direct me to some website loving on Z and hating on P, I will go there too and point out Z’s many many flaws.
This “playing field” will never be level… Only a fool like zelenskyy would think that little Ukraine could win a war with Mother Russia.
How ’bout you create your own, using facts, of course!
Thank you.
Total upvote on your second paragraph!
So there is two of you? Probably many more…
What part of an upvote for the below comment would make you believe there is more than one of me?
“No wonder Earth has never been visited by beings from another planet. The whole place must be under quarantine for the well being of the rest of the galaxy..”
Because I do want to understand what you mean and I am missing it.
You’re the worst AI bot in history. Do me a favor, divide 1 by 85078976274837164827473 and let me know what you get.
I get that you don’t pay very much in taxes.
Down vote
1.175378505694777e-16 To 16 decimal places
Zelenskyy, the true face of evil, and the CIA.
Ghost to the post
My aren’t we being redundant tonight?
This runt doesn’t realize that he personally already lost 1/5 of Ukraine.
Again I’m going to say that there is almost zero chance of a ceasefire or peace agreement. Everyone is talking about territory. The Russians are interested in territory as the third most important part. First and foremost is no NATO or any other form of western military in Ukraine. Second is the rights of ethnic Russians to remain culturally Russian. This includes the deNazification of Ukrainian society. Territory is the third consideration but the Donbas is already enshrined in the Russian constitution as Russia. The Donbas voted to join the Russian Federation and requested to become a part of Russia. All of Eastern Ukraine is majority Russian and has been part of Russia until the Soviet Union made that part of Russia part and f the Ukraine for political and administrative reasons. The Ukraine means border lands in Russian. It was traditionally a small strip of land between Russia and the Polish and Hungarian empires. Current Ukraine has a lot of Polish , Hungarian , and Russian land included. The fall of the Soviet Union left a big mess. A true solution would leave a long skinny small landlocked Ukraine.
It seems nobody on this comment thread knows what a SMO is, or a what a war of attrition is. And few have taken the time to listen to his speeches outlining the other objectives.
There’s a whole battalion composed of Ukrainian men fighting with the Russians. There have been plebiscites in the four regions showing overwhelming support to join Russia (supervised by UN). In MOST of those regions many people are already receiving social security and on the Russian mobile phone networks.
Putin has a whole war cabinet supporting and pushing him. The Russian people support him.
Russia also has developed supersonic weapons that the US has not and cannot counter.
Yes, initially the majority of the Russian Forces in Ukraine were Ukrainian Militias from the three breakaway oblasts of Donbass Lugansk and Donetsk. Most of the militias were in the Ukrainian Army and left in 2014 when the three oblasts declared their independence and formed their own governments.
An SMO is a “Special Military Operation”.
An example would be President Trump’s sending 7 B2s with 14 mega bunker busters to total the Iranian Mullahs nuclear facilities. The time over Iran was about 15 minutes. The time from US Airbase and back home was about 36 hours. That is an SMO.
A war like the one between Russia and Ukraine, going on for almost 3 and a half years, and still counting, with hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers, is anything but an an SMO. It is in no way special at all. It’s a war of attrition. A war of mass slaughter with men used as cannon fodder, on both sides. . It is nothing to be celebrated.
Where I grew up it meant second helping. Yes, ma’am I’d like
s-mo.
I can’t speak to what specific time frame is required to allow an SMO be declared an SMO. But I can tell you that Russia started it’s SMO in February of 2022. In April of 2022 there was an agreed upon end to the SMO (2 months). Then came one Boris Johnson of the UK clan and talked to Zelinsky and he backed out of the agreed upon end of the SMO.
The fact that you use 3 1/2 tears as declaring it not an SMO is pointless. It would have lasted 2 months had the UK kept their nose out of it.
“And few have taken the time to listen to his speeches outlining the other objectives.”
Huge assumption on your part. dontcha think??
SMH
*hypersonic
When Zelenskyy’s handlers want him to squeak, they stomp on his tail.
Sheesh. Now I am never gonna get that image out of my head.
Of course Z-man is against any real peace deal – he suspended elections in Ukraine until the war is over and it is “safe” to hold them again. And even though his five-year presidential term officially ended on May 20, 2024 (over a year ago!), he is staying on as “President” (aka dictator) until that time. So the longer the war goes on, the longer he gets to stay in power. I’m no Putin fan (don’t forget that he’s “ex” KGB!), but at least he seems to be doing what he thinks is best for Russia. Meanwhile, Z-man is just doing what is best for himself, screw the rest of Ukraine.
-Bottom line: As long as Z-man is around, he is going to do all he can to thwart any peace deal. So the sooner Z-man is gone (one way or another), the sooner the adults can settle this.
“…the sooner Z-man is gone (one way or another), the sooner the adults can settle this.”
Yep.
Meanwhile, I like your avatar. If ever we have a rat problem it doesn’t last long. The weasels soon show up and take care of business, so I’m a weasel fan. They seem to know it, too. lol
We have two different kinds here. One is a larger size, gray with white markings and the other is a beautiful little sable colored critter. Fierce little dudes.
I once heard weasels described as “ounce for ounce, the worlds meanest predators”. Not sure if that is technically true or not, but I always liked the sound of it. 🙂
Yes, I’ve seen that same thing in reputable reports back in my serious animal activist days, and I believe it’s true.
Last year I had a once-in-a-lifetime experience that solidified that belief, when I witnessed one of the little sable colored ones chase a rat twice its size out from under the barn and attack it just a few feet from where I stood. It was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen.
I stood frozen in my tracks while they tumbled in the dust. The rat got loose and only made it a foot further before the weasel had caught it again. After rolling around for another second or so the weasel was on top and bit the rat right in the back of the neck and dragged it back under the barn.
Needless to say, I was just gobsmacked. It was something I’ll never forget.
One. bite. And it was over.
The little weasel was about half the size of a ferret, and absolutely beautiful. The afternoon sun shone directly on its fur, which was a shiny dark auburn with faint dark stripes down its back.
They’re like miniature wolverines.
I want one!!! lol
If those are Z’s terms then let him enforce them without our assistance. We tried.
Take with 🧂🧂🧂but Sky News is now reporting that Zelensky may be invited to the Alaska meeting.
https://news.sky.com/story/white-house-considering-inviting-zelenskyy-to-trump-putin-meeting-in-alaska-reports-13409490
MI-6 HAS MADE a PRESS RELEASE…
Axios, huh.
“Vance’s U.K. talks yield “significant progress” ahead of Trump-Putin summit: Source”
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/08/trump-putin-uk-summit-ukraine
If ya cant convince em, confuse em.
This is the opportunity to hand this tar baby off. Zelenskyy is just the hood ornament on this CIA/Deep State adventure in war profiteering and regime change in Russia. If Ukraine, who is losing the war, does not agree, Trump can just pull all USA contractors out and stop laundering any more billions through that place. It’s sounding awkward and lame to keep saying this is Biden’s war, and ”stop the killing”. The killing started in 2014 and Ukraine is no longer a viable state. It is just a CIA puppet. Make it the CIA’s loss, like the Bay of Pigs, then the CIA can be overhauled to get them out of the regime change business. They have brought their games home to the USA and partnered with the FBI, and they have been running things. It hasn’t mattered for a long time who got elected or what American voters want.Now is the time,
Trump can just pull all USA contractors out and stop laundering any more billions through that place.
You sure about that, homer?
And while he’s at it, he should tell them not to take anymore potshots at him.
Outstandingly sarcastic.
Ukraine is ’Money Laundering’ on a vast scale.
Covid 1984 theater with Kamala Emhoff
So damn fake. But it takes two to tango and in this case its a global cabal collaboration of installed globalists.
The part nobody can wrap their heads around is the part about Putins role in the fakery. Everybody from the MSN to Con Inc agrees and is pushing the narrative that Putin #’INVADED’ Ukraine. Same way they all agreed COVID-19 exists. After all, you cant have a pandemic without a virus. It is that foundational premise as a starting point that all must agree with first and from there branch out all the conspiracy theories, disagreements, and endless rabbit holes deliberately designed to distract and confuse. But most important and by design there must be a foundation to build off of that all must accept as truth.
As I’ve told you before my friend, I saw so much fakery in Bosnia & especially Kosovo.
Ruder Finn bragged about how they targeted the Jewish community specifically with the Holocaust analogy and the Nazi projection onto the Serbs who were the Nazis major enemies in the Balkans. This was all a game changer for me. My redpill
The picture that fooled the world
https://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/LIE/BOSNIA_PHOTO/bosnia.html
I see but in those conflicts, weren’t there really two opposing sides of people that were fighting each other on the ground to begin with before outside intervention and fake news began manipulating things?
Yes of course, but Ruder Finn and Op Mockingbird did loads of fakery.
The Truth Leaks Out About Kosovo
November 24, 1999
The embarrassing truth is starting to come out that the Clinton Administration lied to us about Kosovo atrocities which were supposed to justify the bombing of Yugoslavia. In five months of investigation and exhumation of the dead in Kosovo, United Nations war crimes investigators have found only 2,108 bodies. Before the bombing, Clinton and Defense Secretary William Cohen repeatedly tossed out figures of 100,000 dead, and the State Department even claimed that up to 500,000 Kosovars were feared dead. Clinton claimed that his bombing prevented Milosevic from “deliberate, systematic efforts at ethnic cleansing and genocide.”
The chief prosecutor for the UN war crimes tribunal, Carla Del Ponte, can confirm only the 2,108 figure. That’s what she reported to the UN Security Council.
https://eagleforum.org/column/1999/nov99/99-11-24.html
1999. June. NATO conducted “Operation Allied Force,” a 78-day air-strike campaign, against Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war, from March 24 to June 10, including bombing Belgrade. This was launched without UN approval, after principal NATO nations had tried and failed to get it. NATO rationalized its unilateral use of force as “humanitarian” to eject Serb forces from Kosovo.
Imagine how much easier it is to fake and manufacture modern global crisis now with the use of big technology and a global Big Club network of installed NWO leaders hiding behind it.
To add some context; there is no question/doubt from me that the global “pandemic” was a total fraud/fake. So its not a question of if and when because its happening now. Every time you see them wearing a mask should be a scary reminder of this New Normal which is already upon us.
And just look at the MSM for the comprehensive, in depth, and sympathetic news coverage from the front lines in Urkraine, for either side…….!
And look again at the comprehensive battle assessments and military strategy offered by numerous western govenrmemts…..!
And those casualty figures…..!
Dear Mr Fantasy, play is a tune, Something to make is all happy.
Do anything, take is out of this gloom.
Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy.
Traffic, 1967
Alevander Vindman…..
This meeting won’t happen until Zelensky is gone.
Works for me but I really doubt that is relevant since the meeting has already been announced. Z can go wet himself along with the EU, the Neocons, the IC and our CONGRESS….but I repeat myself.
I normally hate AI images, but will make an exception for a cry-baby Zelenskyy – this one is perfect.
When it’s an obvious AI I think it’s appropriate. The ones trying to fool people is not.
One wonders what Victoria Nuland and associates are doing about the war they engineered.
Taking their royalty cheques to the bank.
Nope. Leaves a money trail. Always deal in cash.
MAYBE ONE of the Reasons that Gold Bullion Rules HAVE CHANGED…
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/new-us-tariffs-on-kilo-gold-bars-threaten-global-bullion-trade-report-13420893.html
On Thursday, the DOJ doubled the reward for the arrest of Venezuela’s Maduro to $50 million. I suspect that Trump was delivering a message to Zelenskyy.
Interesting….thanks.
No. It wouldn’t have been anywhere near that much.
$100, max.
According to the Tampa Free Press: On Monday, a federal judge blocked Trump assassination suspect Ryan Wesley Routh from accessing classified information. In the ruling, the judge wrote that the information’s disclosure could cause ‘serious damage or exceptionally grave damages’ to national security.
Here’s what I’m wondering: Was Routh tying to find out if the U.S. government knew about Ukrainian ties to his attempt to assassinate Trump? After all, he had earlier worked as a recruiter in Afghanistan for the Ukrainian government.
My guess is that Trump is giving Zelenskyy a choice:
1. Support the peace agreement and stay in power.
2. Reject the peace agreement and eventually be arrested and tried in the United States for theft of U.S. aid money and/or for sponsoring Ryan Wesley Routh’s assassination attempt.
Was it actually Ryan Routh asking for that information or was it for his controllers?
Is Z really making the calls or is he just the puppet for the EU/globalist/warmongers/IC community?
you have to ask? Z was a comedian/dancer.
95 degrees here, dew point is 72, and that is my entire excuse for rambling. 😁
i think it’s obvious to everyone that Z has been left at the curb.
(obvious to everyone except Z that is.)
IMO, this bi-lateral summit between PT and PP is YUGE.
i think it marks the turning point in unraveling the mess created for PP and intentionally left to PT.
with Z now openly irrelevant, progress is possible, even likely.
false flags, media pressure, errant missiles, or any other attempts at disruption will be seen for what they really are
after the two Presidents establish a frank dialogue.
yes, the U.S. IC is a malicious force to be dealt with, but PP has his opposition, too.
i can almost hear them trying to one up each other in rueful, albeit good, humor as they argue as to whose baby is uglier.
(i think PT gets the win there solely on the basis of Melania’s undies.)
once they sort out the players, the real fun of neutering them begins, and i think they can do it.
Z becomes persona non grata to his former handlers,
media screams, IC picks their next cash laundromat,
congress starts impeachment proceedings until the details of their ukraine grift starts coming out,
PT smiles THAT smile, PP laughs, and maybe, just maybe
contracts are awarded for the very scenic Bering Strait Bridge…
(i really want that thing! 😂 )
happy Saturday to all, and to all a good evening!
Beautiful Sunday morning here. 83°F and 72% humidity.
That Bering Strait bridge would be a Wonder of The World if constructed.
That actually would be something to see; and with our builder the President we can only imagine such a bridge between the two nations, the two continents would become one of those Wonders of the World attractions just for someone to say they drove from the southern tip of Chile up the west coast of the Americas over to see the wonders of the Russian wilderness then drive on down that eastern coast to where, Thailand?
and on the way to Thailand they can drive through the peninsula and take in the sites at one of North Korea’s new beach front tourist spots that President Trump mentioned in that meeting between the two leaders the Korean leader might want to consider given it is a nation with pristine beach front property!
Now that would be nice.
You can have the bridge as long as it includes a railroad on it.
For Graham, Bolton, and all the warmongering hacks in DC and Europe:
IMHO
What regitiger did in presenting a beautiful, coherent breakdown of the events of January 6, 2021, StanH has done with the map of Ukraine over many years and what a magnificent response it is to Zelenskyy and his EU and NATO co-conpirators – right at this very moment!
I meant to say Harrison – not StanH – re the magnificent map.
Do you believe Putin is aware he was used as a useful idiot and/or tricked into ‘invading ukraine’ in order to facilitate this global money laundering operation ?
Seth,
Ukraine was a major money laundering operation long before the Russians finally invaded. Thus the reason (one of the reasons) it has been unquestioningly defended by the western “elite”, the bankers/financiers, mainstream media, Hollywood, and much of social media.
Plus the fact that it is a war, so…..the MIIC lobbyist make money, the bribed U.S. politicians supporting a war make money, the MIIC makes money, and the bankers/financiers make money off interest on the money they loan to U.S. politicians.
All courtesy of the U.S. Taxpayer
So you are saying Putin could not have possibly been unwittingly used to justify the money laundering operation as a consequence of invading because Ukraine was already a money laundering operation long before the invasion.
Should be obvious by now Ukraine was not invaded. At least not without Zelenskys consent for media consumption. Nobody cared about Ukraine until the fake President manufactured and made public the invasion narrative. It was advertised that way because the globalist cabal wanted it that way, same way they manufactured the fake pandemic, 2020 election, etc.
Non sequitur.
Fake war.
Who was ever held accountable for the crash of the Malaysian Airlines plane that seemed to have gotten shot down over a sunflower field in Hrabove directly on the border between Donetsk and Luhansk in July 2014? An earlier crash and disappearance of a Malaysian Airlines plane happened in March 2014 (somewhere over the Indian Ocean, a vast space).
A shoulder-launched missile brought down the plane over Hrabove, 298 souls aboard.
Get the sound effects and the slo-mo from the train – with George Peppard’s help – fighting derailment near the end of “How The West Was Won”.
Of course, George Peppard was the good guy in the film – but I mean, for the sheer incredible sound effect along with the breathtaking cinematography capturing the moment!
That need to go on a t-shirt.
Maybe the U.S. could arrest Zelenskyy for money laundering if he rejects the peace agreement.
I bet Zelensky and Putin are on the phone right now planning their next move against Trump. Probably having a good laugh about it too.
Putin conspire with Zman? not a chance.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy must go, yes, but also his friends: Friedrich Merz, Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron, Donald Tusk, and Ursula von der Leyen. We must act against the whole gang.
Delightful idea.
Zelensky is fighting for his grift to continue as long as it possibly can…an absolutely despicable excuse for a human being
Correcting myself!
I beg your pardon – I meant to say it was Harrison’s history map of Ukraine – I had misattributed it to StanH!
Trump just needs to tell Z & NATO to F%&* off …… Not another dime….Not another bullet and you get what Putin leaves you!!
Good Luck !
Election Overseer Found DNC, Chalupa Broke Rules Over Ukraine, Then Reversed Its Finding After Jan. 6
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
March 10, 2022
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/election_overseer_found_dnc_chalupa_broke_rules_over_ukraine_then_reversed_its_finding_after_jan_6_820892.html
A real cutie patootie!
Let em burn. Sad to say that because Ukrainians appear to be a brave, self-sacrificing people but their leaders are fools.
This is a scenario I would like to see. The meeting is set up in some suitable location and everyone heads there including Zelensky, Murkowski. Lindsay Graham and the rest.
Meanwhile Trump and Putin are fly fishing on a scenic river somewhere far away and having a productive meeting to boot.
COLD BAY Has a NICE LONG RUNWAY –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Bay_Airport
In the interest of fairness, if Z refuses to negotiate and wants Russia to completely leave their land (Russia’s – see map on page 2) or he will keep fighting, then PDJT could do the following:
Impose sanctions on Ukraine as well as Russia – no weapons, munition sales, or money transfers to Ukraine, no oil purchases from Russia.
Order that any country breaking said sanctions will face an additional 100% tariff.
Said sanctions will stay in place until a peace agreement is signed.
Any 100% add-on tariffs triggered due to breaking the sanctions will stay in place for 6 months after the peace agreement is signed.
I like that.
More BS reporting today. “3 anonymous sources familiar with the conversation” say a z invite to Alaska is possible. The report immediately contradicts it by saying the WH is focused primarily on the current bilateral meeting between Trump and Putin then the possibility of a trilateral meeting. These people are genuinely evil
I won’t try putting what I believe to be true into words.
Let us pray…..
Nikita Khrushchev: “We will bury you” .
Vladimir Putin: “I will snow and tap you” .
President Donald J. Trump: “Don’t bet a single one of your all but worthless rubles on it”.
(1.0 Russian Ruble equals 0.013 US Dollar)
Deposit an extra $100M in Zelensky’s Swiss bank account to agree to a peace deal. It’s a lot less expensive for the USA than to continue the war and more billions in aid.
I would rather see that $100 million go to our veterans for care and housing.
not one red cent. Promise to claw back every thing given him in the last 7 years — confiscate all his American property and that of any of his henchmen.
Who controls Zelensky? Who’s pulling his strings? It’s clearly not Trump. Rubio stated this is a US proxy war and yet Zelensky seems to think he has veto power over US Russia negotiations. I understand Zelensky was likely promised the sun and the moon by the Obama/Biden administrations and is upset that it hasn’t gone to plan…but does he really think he can force Trump’s hand? Very difficult situation but I hope Trump can extricate us from it.
Crimea voted 98% for leaving ukraine after the us funded coup.
The corrupt ukraine government being reinstalled was bad enough for these folks.
But when z banned the russian language from being spoken, written, read or sung.
Crimea’s natural language being russian.
They had enough and voted to rejoin russia.
Imagine how the Crimean people will be treated if they are forced to live under ukrainian rule again?
a joke, he never had clothes. NATO has overstepped and should be shut
Interesting take on the American, Armenian, and Azerbaijani leaders jointly unveiled the “Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tripp-corridor-threatens-undermine-russias-broader-regional-position
Am I the only one who is beyond tired of this little troll? He simply can’t play with the big boys. Find another playpen!
Some more inside detail…Trump and Putin Reach Deal on Ukraine War Peace Framework –
Trump to meet with the Russian president in Alaska on August 15th after Russia offers sweeping concessions while Zelensky continues to insist on his maximalist objectives vowing to oppose the deal.
https://dpyne.substack.com/p/trump-and-putin-reach-deal-on-ukraine?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=824904&post_id=170555318&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=qt9jm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
FORGET UKRAINE!
I say again withdraw ALL support for Ukraine. Zman does not want peace. Peace would be his death warrant. Zelenskyy has removed all power from the citizens, they have no voice. If PDJT really wants to save lives he will completely withdraw all support from Ukraine, and tell NATO US weapons will not be used to support the Ukraine debacle. The war will end soon, fewer lives lost.
Remove sanctions from Russia and make them a trading partner. Together the US and Russia could bring peace to the world.