FN 107, 108, 109 and 110 are all in the redacted paragraph top of page 25, pertaining to Carter Page. However, the footnotes are NOT redacted.
I have long said, the FISA Application that was released to the public (by Mueller/Weissman in 2018) is NOT the same as the FISA Application that sits at the DOJ-NSD/FISC.
I told John Durham in August 2020 I suspected the publicly released FISA was *NOT* the same as the one with the court.
[*Initial and first renewal had FISC stamps (March 17, 2017). The second and third renewals did not have FISC stamps at all when released.]
Former Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein said during Senate hearing (Ted Cruz question), he did not release the FISA; the special counsel team did. They held authority over DOJ/FBI on all things Russiagate.
When Mueller/Weissmann released the FISA application, July 2018 (it was part of a set of timed releases including the Warner texts) under the ridiculous auspices of releasing a Top Secret TSCI document to fulfill a FOIA request…. the first ever in history of the IC… few people stopped to ask why was this ok’d to release?
They had to release the FISA because it was already public (Warner/Wolfe illegal leak), and the underpinning of several outcomes of evidence for the Mueller indictments (fruit of the poisonous tree). But there were some aspects Mueller/Weissmann could not risk in the release.
The FBI and later Mueller/Weissmann, had used the surveillance warrant to gather evidence and surveillance on a lot of people, including Flynn, Manafort, Phares and Papadopoulos.
Maintaining the warrant (willfully blind to the truth) was also why FBI leadership never wanted agents to interview Page until after the second renewal.
[SOURCE]
FBI leadership refused to allow agents to interview Carter Page.
The FBI eventually interviewed Carter Page on March 9, 10, 16, 30 and 31.
Despite the interviews, the FBI renewed the FISA application against Carter Page on April 2nd, 2017.
Despite the FISA application accusing Carter Page of being “an agent of a foreign government,” Carter Page was never charged with any criminal conduct, including FARA violations.
Carter Page was simply the tool for the FBI to conduct full Title-1 surveillance against President Donald Trump and his campaign/administration officials.
Too big for courts. Needs to be military tribunals.
Military tribunals for sure
Televised!!
Pay per view.
Would limit viewing/exposure.
What a grewat idea! We could lower (even diminish to zero) the Nationl Debt with the proceeds. Muti-national corps would have to get in the action through advertising. Oh that would be so great…
Would prolly pay off the deficit, I for one would have a subscription to it!
In this economy many couldn’t afford pay per view! All Americans need the truth and it’s time this government got their act together and started arresting and putting these criminals on trial for treason.
With splatter tarps
Are you sure the military judges aren’t woke activists too?
Especially to political for any DC courts for sure. There’s likely quite a few fed judges that don’t want this mess even in Florida. Military tribunals are the way to go
DC court judges are part of the conspiracy and many judges would be defendants in the military tribunals.
Corrupt judges are one of the big reasons we need military tribunals. The other reason is there are so many gov’t official defendants, we need an orderly and efficient trial process.
We know Boasberg handled like 75% of the FISA violations without questioning anything, so it wouldn’t be a large number of judges on trial.
Absolutely — courts were treasonous players.
We all need to see “how and why” this is necessary and Constitutional. It would help gather “public thinking” if we were to discuss “existence of conflict”, who, when; and a robust dig into ACTUAL presidential Commander in Chief authorities under POTUS DJT emergency declarations in first term and subsequent renewals under biden (autopen).
IMO, this conversation hasn’t taken place except for Federalist Papers (ratification days) timeframe and Civil War timeframe.
Now is a good time to remind everyone about Linsey’s questioning of Kavanaugh concerning military law.
Hello Pete Hegseth
Pay-per-view, and we’ll pay down a good chunk of the national debt!
JMO.
Transfer the law and order functions, but not the embedded treasonous people, from the DOJ and the 3-letter departments into another section of the 2025 Executive Branch ……. like to Pete’s Department of Defense …… still within the Executive Branch, under President Trump, but out of the fraudulent DC legal / court / jury selection system. There are many military installations available …. including Guantánamo.
President Trump has already made at least 2 trial runs of doing such moves: (1) moving the ATF out from the FBI over to the Defense Department; (2) moving the investigation and processing of the security clearances for many of the new Executive Branch employees out from under the FBI over to the Department of Defense.
More lumber and rope will be needed.
And which section of the U.S. Code of Military Justice would they be charged under, if the military even has jurisdiction over civilian matters?
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Military tribunals have no jurisdiction.
Where does this constantly repeated fantasy come from? Also the apparent delusion that “military tribunals” somehow are more competent than Article III courts. We are not under martial law or military dictatorship, or dealing with transgressions by military personnel or of military law, governed by the UCMJ.
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G’afternoon Outhouse. You might have answered in your comment where the idea comes from. IIRC, Martial Law came be used if the Judiciary is “closed”. A loose interpretation could be argued that the corrupted courts are closed as “justice” is set aside to “politics”.
As for the question of corrupted military officers…a. distinct possibility, but yet, less that the current corruption in the district courts. Just me 2c.
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The courts being “closed” is a stretch even further than the U.S. being under martial law.
I generally think pretty highly of the CTH posters here, so when I read something like this, that gets repeated over and over, it just makes me cringe that it makes Trump supporters look like nincompoops.
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Yes the whole “military tribunal” thing is a dream made up to distract.
Without getting into the discussion about “IF” a military trail would be a possibility, as a former citizen who has been under the UCMJ, I would be opposed to that route for a different reason. As long as we know that we could not get a fair trial in D.C., it means the swamp still is in power. That situation needs to be fixed with a legal flamethrower before we have the trials. Then we have the televised trials to prove that all that’s left of the swamp is a few crispy critters.
If the present governing institutions and process, to include the rigged election process, fake intel gathering and dissemination, false prosecution and impeachment, politicized judges and courts, and supported assassination attempts can be shown to be seditiously organized and instituted, then a Presidential action instituting ” Martial Law ” is Constitutionally mandated. Prosecution action is then legally transferred into the military sphere. Or you can believe that all future criminal prosecution actions would best be handled thru our compromised legal system and that we can expect a different result ( from what we have been receiving ).
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Perhaps you and others could go research how military tribunals are convened and how their judges are selected. Also when and how martial law can be authorized.
Would be a time-consuming, wasteful, potentially dangerous distraction from getting on with any trials, and ultimately an utterly stupid and futile nightmare that would completely veer reaching any justice totally off-course.
Also, there are good arguments for using jurisdictions other than D.C.
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My issue rests on using a compromised system and expecting a different result. Multiple legal issues arise, tho historical precedent of Martial Law implementation in U.S. exists, but with different applicable scopes. Lots of legal questions, but question is whether to change procedure or use known broken process??? My preferred action, implement Martial Law in D.C. arrest and incarcerate perps, let them rot in jail while all legal issues play out on appeal. Neither cringeworthy or nin-com-poop idea when precedent and NEED exists.
Cause President Trump IS CIC ! This was against the highest of the high US “Orifices “( h/t el Rushbo)
Get rid of the gold fringed flag in every courthouse and we might have a flying chance. Maritime law is what we are “judged” under.
Guillotine on the Steps of the Capitol.
This would burn Deterrence and Fear into every future Scumbag Marxist Coup Plotter.
Military Tribunals for these Enemy Combatants
FILTHY LIBERALS.
… and make it a pay per view to pay off the cost of all the investigations, trials and lawfare! I doubt we could ever get it through restitution!
@Sundance,
“I told John Durham in August 2020 I suspected the publicly released FISA was *NOT* the same as the one with the court.”
Did he respond to you?
I bet he did! He probably swallowed real hard like, in an Oh shyte moment
He said thank you. He could neither confirm nor deny.
That’s your answer for sure!
Got to be honest… I had doubts that Durham even actually existed. Other than one picture of him, I don’t know if I can recall ever seeing him. Well, at least I know he’s real and not some mythical creature.
One picture is hardly proof of existence.
Durham gave congressional testimony. It’s available on C-SPAN.
“TOP MEN.”
On one hand, I am thankful that you got the opportunity to present your suspicions to him.
On the other, I am hugely disappointed that we are where we are in spite of it.
To say nothing is still a response. Sometimes the sound of silence can be deafening.
In other words, he knew, what you know, but refused to open himself up to being in the wrong column.
They wanted him to do exactly what he did. Nothing.
The three monkeys. See nothing. Hear nothing. Say nothing.
Let me guess – “Not my Bailiwick”!
Love it.
Redact everything in the main body of the text and then leave the footnotes for everyone to see.
Perfect.
Ask for forgiveness, because permission will never be given.
Did Boasberg or whomever approve these knowing they were not valid?
Not the judges fault, It was probably signed at a cocktail party.
You know how blurry details at those cocktail party’s can get.
I still think there is gold to be had in the communications between Chief Justice Roberts and Judge Boasberg.
Of course he knew.
He was picked hand selected because he hates Trump.
Just look at his latest nonsense rulings against Trump.
@Sundance, how will justice ever be served in DC courts? Won’t the DOJ have to file future charges in the swamp?
End run the courts and crank up some ribunals
Some theorize the MAL raid opens up FLA as a venue.
Recent redactions in relevant releases could also be seen as furtherance of a Conspiracy. (SOL issue.)
Exactly, WHEN the case of:
The United States of America vs Barck H. Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strozk, Andrew Weissman, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Millie Ohr, et al.
Is finally brought before a Grand Jury, and Trial.
Going through all of the Predicate Acts to this RICO Prosecution, will have the ability to help DoJ determine the Trial Venue. . .
These people are worse than pond scum.
I hope the brand “Democrat” is blackened FOREVER (not long enough in my opinion).
President Trump should get back all of the time wasted in his first term on this garbage.
They are actually worse than the influent to sewage treatment plants.
Let us not denigrate pond scum!
Rep. Burchett often says the same of DC.
DC is not a swamp which is a wonderful ecosystem. DC is a sewer.
Not a sewer. A sewer is a civilized method of collecting sh.. stuff and turning into clean water.
Definitely a swamp.
When the FBI used the Steele dossier to seek surveillance warrants on Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page, the bureau made 17 “factual misstatements and omissions” to the FISA court, Inspector General Horowitz found in his December 2019 report.
These abuses included embellishing Steele’s established reliability as an FBI source; omitting information that undermined the credibility of Steele’s main source, Igor Danchenko, and the fanciful claims he told Steele about prostitutes and billion dollar bribes; concealing that Steele was a source for a Yahoo News article that the FBI also cited as source material; omitting that both Page and Papadopoulos had made exonerating statements to FBI informants; and, most notably, omitting that the Clinton campaign was paying for Steele’s services. The FISA court concurred with Horowitz, invalidating two of the four Page surveillance warrants on the basis of the FBI’s “material misstatements.”
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/01/20/the_tension_over_truth_and_consequences_gripping_the_fbis_trump-russia_reckoning_812321.html
The FISA court.
“Judge Rosemary M. Collyer, presiding judge at the time, entered an order Dec. 17. Collyer directed that “the government shall, no later than January 10, 2020, inform the [court] in a sworn written submission of what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure that the statement of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI that is material to any issue presented by the application.”
“On December 9, 2019, the government filed with the FISC public and classified versions
of the OIG Report.6 The OIG Report describes in detail the preparation of the four applications
for electronic surveillance of Mr. Page. It documents troubling instances in which FBI personnel
provided information to NSD which was unsupported or contradicted by information……
This Order cites the public version of the OIG Report. It also describes several instances in which FBI personnel withheld from NSD
information in their possession which was detrimental to their case for believing that Mr. Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.
In addition, while the fourth electronic surveillance application for Mr. Page was being
prepared, an attorney in the FBI’s Office of General Counsel (OGC) engaged in conduct that
apparently was intended to mislead the FBI agent who ultimately swore to the facts in that
application about whether Mr. Page had been a source of another government agency. The information about the OGC attorney’s conduct in the OIG report is consistent with
classified submissions made to the FISC by the government on October 25, 2019, and November
Because the conduct ofthe OGC attorney gave rise to serious concerns about the
accuracy and completeness of the information provided to the FISC in any matter in which the
OGC attorney was involved, the Court ordered the government on December 5, 2019, to, among other things, provide certain information addressing those concerns.
The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was
antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which
representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by
information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”
https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf
July 27, 2016? Click the timeline bar for details.
https://www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com/?s=a&cat=12&year=2016
Also Carter Page was an asset of the CIA. Could be some of redactions.
I thought about the FISA, and come to conclusion it was an altered document. There is still something they are protecting or Somebody. Looking at you Jug Ears the Chitcago street hustler.
Jug Ears, LOL
Page was a ‘tool,’ no doubt. But was he a knowing tool? The fact that he was never charged with criminal conduct leaves me very suspicious.
Spy Catcher—Page—played the role of tool when he trolled two Russian Spies putting a feather in the cap of John Carlin at DOJ/NSD. Soon after that case ended in NY, Page joined the Trump campaign through RINO Ed Cox.
Page was the invisible man. He was as distant to Trump and the Trump campaign as he was waving hi and goodbye to the Russians he was accused of “meeting” in Moscow. John Carlin resigned and never delivered the poisoned FISA. It was left to Mary McCord. John Carlin knew who Page was. Did he know Page to be a witting tool or an unwitting tool?
The Steele ‘dossier’ entry used to get the Carter Page FISA warrant indicated Page was offered 19% of Rosneft stock (about $13 billion as I recall). Rosneft was working a deal with Qatar and Glencore (Marc Rich’s former firm, before his conviction and the pardon from B. Clinton) at the time for 19.5% of their stock. The deal was re-worked a few months later, Glencore selling for a few billion loss, to CEFC.
Hunter Biden was the CEFC attorney; Rosneft’s US counsel was King Spalding / Christopher Wray. Rosneft was never investigated in the analyst spreadsheet re: the ‘dossier’.
The ‘dossier’ was constructed to allow investigation of deep state targets, selected for mention because of what the deep state could get from their mention. C. Page allowed them to both target Trump and to hide Rosneft, Glencore and CEFC as “prohibited access”.
I doubt this is the only FISA they used the ‘dossier’ for, merely the only one we are aware of. Robert Mueller prosecuted Lyndon LaRouche in the 1980’s and was nearly 90 years old: the only reason he is in the dossier as communicating with Moscow is that the deep state wanted to see if LaRouche was helping Bernie. No way in heck did LaRouche’s name come up from Steele’s “subsource”. The Russians did not remember LaRouche any more than 95% of Americans do.
Nellie Ohr was paid $25/hour and her work was not deep; she was just a plausible conduit between the parties. Her OSINT did not even go to a few well-known sites that were available for, shall we say, interesting international business dealings offered in Cyrillic. And she failed to notice that some of Simpson’s “Russians” were Ukrainian and Romanian…
I investigated this stuff professionally for way too many years. They knew it was garbage, and they knew the American public was clueless enough to believe that Carter Page might just get $13 billion for talking to Trump on their behalf. I’d have an easier time of believing it entirely coincidental of being seated randomly at a restaurant with 10 former kindergarten classmates.
Were the footnotes now coming to light being unredacted a mistake or on purpose?
Most likely mistakes
If only they had consulted with you earlier they could have avoided making all these costly footnote disclosures. 🙂
AI Overview
The Nunes Memo, released in 2018, outlined concerns regarding the use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in relation to the investigation into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential election.
The memo specifically addressed the content of the FISA applications, noting:
– The applications heavily relied on the Steele dossier, which contained allegations about the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia and was funded by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
– The funding sources of the dossier were not disclosed in the FISA applications, despite senior officials being aware of its political origins.
– Information about Steele’s bias against Trump and his unauthorized media contacts, which led to his termination as an FBI source, was not included in the applications.
It is worth noting that the Nunes memo was met with significant criticism and controversy from Democrats and intelligence officials, who claimed it contained misleading information and inaccuracies. The memo also contributed to tensions between the White House and the Justice Department.
I am not a lawyer. Reading that document even though filled with footnotes it was a hard slog.
Pencil Neck interviewed Page who was in Russia. Page was speaking with academics and gave a speech. He was introduced to a Russian diplomat and another Russian underling diplomat that is it. Schiff kept asking Page about his meetings with Russian diplomats and Page kept saying I met. They are getting ready for the FISA stuff and the Analyst says Page met them not meeting and the other guy kept saying meeting…. The government is so big thousands of people do mischief and treason. DRAIN THE SEWER
To be ironic, I really struggle to even understand your cliff notes! Best wait for the Schoolhouse Rock video to be created.
Weissman should never see the light of day once he is held/indicted/prosecuted/convicted for conspiracy to commit sedition/treason against PDJT and all those that were persecuted around him due to this falsified special council hearing. He is the ultimate lawyer slime that needs to be removed from any legal operations that have occurred/disbarred for life. And he still walks around freely to create illegal entrapment for the democrats willing to pay him.
Hey Barron,
Please ask your Dad to add Sundance to the investigative and data team.
He has all the goods!
Signed,
MAGA seeking Justice
FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith’s punishment for his involvement in the approval of Carter Page’s surveillance by, if I recall correctly, changing a CIA email saying Page HAD worked for them to HADN’T worked for them was 12 months probation and 400 hours of community service and he has been reinstated as a member “in good standing” to the District of Columbia Bar Association.
Could you point out the punishment mentioned?
Kevin Clinesmith, a former FBI lawyer, was sentenced to **12 months of probation** and **400 hours of community service** for altering an email used in a FISA application during the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation. He pleaded guilty in August 2020 to a felony false-statement charge for adding the words “not a source” to an email, which misrepresented Carter Page’s status with the CIA. Prosecutors sought prison time, but [scumbag – W] U.S. District Judge James Boasberg imposed probation, citing Clinesmith’s loss of career, public vilification, and lack of evidence of political bias as mitigating factors. Additionally, Clinesmith agreed to a **one-year suspension of his attorney license** in Washington, D.C.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/fbi-attorney-admits-altering-email-used-fisa-application-during-crossfire-hurricane
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/politics/kevin-clinesmith-probation.html)%5B%5D(https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/ex-fbi-lawyer-agrees-one-year-bar-sanction-after-conviction-2021-06-28/
Where Boasberg got his start in DC:
Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia
September 2002 – March 14, 2011
Appointed by: George W. Bush
Ah, GW appointed both Boasberg and Chief Justice Roberts.
Look at any State Bar website, and search for attorneys who have been disbarred (there are other ways to search for disbarred attorneys …). Then search for the case against that disbarred individual; and you will see offenses much less egregious than altering evidence.
Clinesmith “free as a bird”?! At a minimum, disbarred. Behind bars would be getting much closer to Punishment.
Boasberg took good care of his FBI lawyer buddy.
Carter Page played the part of a Russian agent for the CIA which was then used (successfully because of the sensitivity of the matter) as a Russian agent by the FIB. What a load of HS.
And Igor Danchenko was a CHS, oriented, and paid off.
Wiki says he now works in Virginia, didn’t say for who.
So if you now have enough for a criminal conspiracy, doesn’t that allow investigators to secure warrants on all the COMMS of the criminal conspirators and who they spoke with, emailed and texted back in 2016-2020 time period and might these COMMS connect the conspirators to possibly some media folks and their involvement?
If so then the net of criminal conspiracy to take down a sitting President might just get significantly bigger.
RICO Soviet.
Courtesy of NSAi.
💀 🙏 💀
I believe the the Steele Dossier is the ignition of a federal criminal conspiracy indictment.
There are two convictions already associated with the document:
Hillary Clinton’s Campaign
Kevin Clinesmith
On July 23, 2025 the DOJ announced their intention of Investigation of alleged weaponization of the intelligence community., which is larger scope than previous investigations.
Also, probably the top two people who has seen all the unredacted documents to date and that are highly motivated to seek justice discovered it in March 2017:
Devin Nunes and Kash Patel.
President Trump campaigned to this endeavor and he has shown an excellent record of accomplished since this January.
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Justice Department Announces Formation of Strike Force to Assess Evidence Publicized by ODNI
Clinton DNC Steel Dossier Timeline
https://www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com/tags/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier/
I wonder if Tulsi would vote to renew 702 fisa authority now?
Since the swamp used it on Trump and others, why not use it on the bad guys before getting rid of it.
I believe she was strongly opposed to it but was forced to reconsider if she wanted to be confirmed by the corrupt Senate. Yes… that was the litmus test they used. I highly doubt she’s a staunch supporter of FISA.
I still strongly believe that Page was an active and willing participant in this coup!
Which one?
Carter. Also, Lisa.
Horseface Lisa Page (Pete S girlfriend) ? Curly would say, “Why ssoitenly, nyuk nyuk.”
Love to all
Will George have to put Lenny down?
https://xcancel.com/Rightanglenews/status/1951335353098576287#m
Let’s hope that appearance is on CSPAN. Might be entertaining to watch.
Uh oh…
Do you think they’ll show up??
No.
Good for him.
I hope Rep. Burchett is feeling okay. He got kicked in the chest by a horse the other day and has a broken rib.
Of Rats and Men.
That a very funny reference, Maquis!
Just like the one for the conspirators for the Lincoln assassination. Hopefully, with the same result.
Weasels-R-Us
2 hop rule? Everyone in America was then in the 2 hop rule and under surveillance.
BIll Barr and Durham obviously did not do their jobs.
Where’s Barr been? He’s usually quick to get in front of a CNN
camera, but now he’s gone silent.
Bondo is busy with bagpipes and Bible studies with the Muellers.
Barr just started a new law firm in Washington, D.C.
Filled with RINOs.
“Judge Rosemary M. Collyer, presiding judge at the time, entered an order Dec. 17. Collyer directed that “the government shall, no later than January 10, 2020, inform the [court] in a sworn written submission of what it has done, and plans to do, to ensure that the statement of facts in each FBI application accurately and completely reflects information possessed by the FBI that is material to any issue presented by the application.”
“On December 9, 2019, the government filed with the FISC public and classified versions
of the OIG Report.6 The OIG Report describes in detail the preparation of the four applications
for electronic surveillance of Mr. Page. It documents troubling instances in which FBI personnel
provided information to NSD which was unsupported or contradicted by information……
This Order cites the public version of the OIG Report. It also describes several instances in which FBI personnel withheld from NSD
information in their possession which was detrimental to their case for believing that Mr. Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.
In addition, while the fourth electronic surveillance application for Mr. Page was being
prepared, an attorney in the FBI’s Office of General Counsel (OGC) engaged in conduct that
apparently was intended to mislead the FBI agent who ultimately swore to the facts in that
application about whether Mr. Page had been a source of another government agency. The information about the OGC attorney’s conduct in the OIG report is consistent with
classified submissions made to the FISC by the government on October 25, 2019, and November
Because the conduct ofthe OGC attorney gave rise to serious concerns about the
accuracy and completeness of the information provided to the FISC in any matter in which the
OGC attorney was involved, the Court ordered the government on December 5, 2019, to, among other things, provide certain information addressing those concerns.
The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was
antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which
representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by
information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.”
https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf
These judges have a lot of power and can press charges against all the liar’s. Where are they? If they do nothing, they’re just as guilty for allowing this scam in their court (s).
If the judge is the likes of Boasberg,, as I believe the excerpt references the DOJ lawyer who falsely denied Page’s having worked with the C I A and was punished with a caress of the wrist, yes the judge is a guilty party.
Cold Anger
It’s interesting, part of footnote 111 is redacted. So they are reading them and doing something with them (not just ignoring them). I would think public and non public just above that would have jumped out with flashing lights. Same with the Nellie Ohr footnote from yesterday. There was a reason these were left unredacted.
They listen9ng in for evidence of collusion and conspiracy to commit obstruction,due to information released. They want to see who is Nellie Ohr currently talking to and what they saying.
Except in time of war or the imposition of martial law, the UCMJ generally does not provide for jurisdiction over civilians. Congress could change the law, but in today’s circumstances, that simply will not happen.
(A dream): When Weissman loses his US citizenship, he will be banished to Palestine.
There seems to be a call here for “military tribunals.” Is there any legal basis for them to be used in a civilian matter such as Russia gate? My fear is we are stuck having to use the corrupt DC judicial sytem without someway to move the venue to more honest courts or to the UCMJ military judicial system.
About the Constitutional definition of “treason”, it should be enough that an enemy is at war with us, regardless that we have not declared war against them.
The Constitutional presumption was that nations were gentlemen, and that they would not make war on each other without formal notice.
See, for example: The US Declaration of War against the Barbary Pirate states.
Non State terrorist actors are at war with the US, as are political interests trying to destroy us as a nation.
US persons working with those trying to destroy us as a nation and as a society should qualify as traitors.
Hang em high!
I think there is a different solution for handling these cretans, one that has already been used. Indict all the bad actors, arrest them, then give the same treatment as the J6 defendants: incarceration in the capital prison without bail, limited access to visitors and medical treatment, bad food, etc. Since putting together the material to get to trial will consume considerable time and effort, say, perhaps three years, even if the cases are dismissed, they will already have been published.