Texas Senator Ted Cruz came from the Bush administration following his legal work on the Florida electoral challenge to George W Bush. As Karl Rove notes in his book, Courage and Consequence, Cruz wanted to be the United States Attorney General for the Bush administration. Dubya would not consider him, so Ted Cruz set about a new career path to run for the U.S. Senate from Texas.
Cruz worked as Texas Solicitor General (2003-2008), giving him statewide name recognition. Ted Cruz ran for U.S. Senate and won in 2012. In 2014 Robert Mercer (Breitbart) and Mark Levin began promoting Cruz as a presidential candidate for 2015/16; the ‘Cruz crew’ was born. The same ‘Cruz Crew’ coalition later evolved into the Ron DeSantis team in 2023. One of the four cornerstones of the Cruz/DeSantis political base, which includes a targeted evangelical following, has always been strong support for Israel.
This alignment is why we see the Cruz/DeSantis coalition as extremely supportive of the Israeli campaign against Iran, despite their generally soft support for President Trump on other matters. Obviously, the political gravity of President Trump is very strong – so those with future aspirations must remain Trump-adjacent, if not directly in his orbit.
In this somewhat adversarial interview, Tucker Carlson confronts Senator Cruz about his support for Israel, against the backdrop of the current Israeli zero-sum conflict with Iran. I am providing the interview for discussion only because the same conflict dynamic is playing out on several platforms, and it is of great interest to many Trump supporters.
Chapters:
0:00 Why Does Cruz Want Regime Change in Iran?
06:28 Is the US Currently Acting in Its Own Best Interest?
07:49 Was Regime Change in Syria Beneficial to the US?
12:31 Was the Iraq War a Mistake?
18:55 Why Aren’t US Politicians Focused on Fixing America’s Problems?
27:02 How Much Money Is the US Sending to Israel?
29:17 Does Cruz Think It’s Okay That Foreign Governments Spy on America?
31:47 How Much Money Has Cruz Taken From AIPAC?
38:22 To What Extent Is the US Government Influenced by Foreign Governments?
49:12 Is the Israel of the Bible the Same as the Current Israeli Government?
55:09 How Does Funding Israel Benefit the US?
1:11:54 What Happens Next in Iran?
1:13:42 What Really Is an Isolationist?
1:19:53 Are There Iranian Assassins Trying to Kill Trump?
1:30:18 Cruz Knows Nothing About Iran and Wants to Destroy It Anyway
1:32:55 Trump’s Response to Tucker’s Position on Iran
1:34:51 Cruz Refuses to Apologize for Supporting the Disastrous Ukraine/Russia War
1:46:55 Why Does Cruz Think Zelensky Is a Hero?
1:47:44 Why Did Cruz Support the Blowing up of Nord Stream?
1:50:12 Is Russia an Enemy of the US?
1:56:29 Is America the Moral Authority?
“NEW: Statement out from the consulting firm that set up Qatar interview confirming Tucker’s network did not get paid”
https://x.com/jackposobiec/status/1935432666670649606?s=61
So who paid the consulting firm? They didn’t do it out of the kindness of their heart. Why would Qatar need to pay a consulting firm if Carlson asked Qatar for an interview? Just do the interview. Sounds fishy to me.
A militant cult that chants “Death to America” while building ICBMs and nukes is begging for scrutiny.
So all the US politicians who chant about destroying Iran should face scrutiny?
You bet!
A country with nukes chanting death to Iran is begging to bomb without scrutiny.
Political narratives announce themselves desperately.
I am sure someone else, with more eloquence, has made a similar comment…
Did everyone else chuckle when it was “Military Intelligence and the CIA” that told the hopefully soon to be Sr Senator from Texas that the Iranians were plotting the President’s demise?
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“Qatar Tucker”
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“Talmud Ted”
(Not really)
For what it’s worth, no one in Texas knows who the Solicitor General is. He’s an appointee on the staff of the Attorney General (which IS a statewide elected position). When Ted Cruz announced his Senate run, he was at 2% name recognition. He won by beating the pants off the RINO Lieutenant Governor who thought he was entitled to the job, first by finishing second in the primary, then by winning the runoff with tremendous grassroots support.
What a lot of people outside Texas don’t understand is that by being a pain in the ass to the rest of Washington, he is doing exactly what he was elected to do (we’ll hopefully take care of Cornyn next year). By the way, Cruz has been very clear on his position on Iran since 2008, especially during the Obama Administration.
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As long as Trump is in control, Cruz is ok. Otherwise, I don’t necessarily trust him.
Ted is proven once again to be a charlatan. Tucker did an amazing job and asked important questions that Cruz was unable to answer!
They’re both charlatans. They work for opposing interests is all there is.
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Ron DeSantis Paid Evangelical “Indulgency Fee” for Bob Vander Plaats’ Iowa Endorsement
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/27/ron-desantis-paid-evangelical-indulgency-fee-for-bob-vanderplaats-iowa-endorsement/
What is curious to me is that so many people are interested in what these talking heads think and say when the real story is with PDJT and the facts on the ground.
Trump is no fool. He will put Netanyahu is his proper place. You don’t start a war in the middle of a negotiation and your central plan is force the U.S. president’s hand to attack the main nuclear sites in Iran by applying pressure through the media, your influencers, bought off politicians and spies within the Administration. It won’t work!
Trump should look at Netanyahu and ask did you really start a war without a plan, apart from “forcing my hand,” to destroy the main nuclear sites in Iran?
Trump will tell him to figure it out. The USA will help with defensive weapons and supplying weapons to Israel.
Everything else is on Israel to figure out. I don’t care how much their allies in the USA bellyache. Israel decided to act unilaterally and they need to see this through unilaterally. There will be no hand off to the USA to “finish the job.”
I am pretty confident Trump is of this mindset, otherwise we are a country that is allowing a nation like Israel to lead us by the nose though their biblical propaganda when it suits them and their overt propaganda in the media, with their politicians and influencers and embedded officials in the Trump administration.
The prestige of the U.S. is on the line here and I believe Trump will not capitulate to the “pressure” because in reality, they mean to destroy his presidency with this conflict!
Trump and Netanyahu work together. I know your anti Semitic hate bli do you and makes you stupid.
Not much of a counter-argument.
You have verifiable information to the contrary?
the verification is obvious from the outcome, the peacemaker who was not involved now wants complete surrender. he sucker punched the mullahs with their own game, saying its not me its Israel. watch for the outcome to get your verification, lol.
When Trump asked Netanyahu to come and assist the USA in the attack against Qasem Soleimani, after he killed Americans and was planning more attacks on USA bases in the region, did Netanyahu assist or did he decline because it wasn’t Israelis being attacked at the time??
Trump was steaming mad at Netanyahu! Now Netanyahu wants Trump to do something far more riskier than he was not willing to do in that attack in attacking Iran’s hardened nuclear sites!
No! Israel started this and they need to figure it out. How do you start an attack without a plan to destroy the most hardened sites??? Or was it we will start it and get the USA to finish it? Don’t deflect with your anti-semitism mumbo jumbo.
Answer that question. Does Israel even have an independent plan to destroy the most hardened nuclear sites?
If the US doesnt go in Israel has alternate plan, PDJT waiting to assess the risk and getting Israel to soften the ground.
Pam you were promised this argument 3,000 years ago….
I hope you are correct about Trump.
The connection between the Jewish people and God ended when Jesus Christ came to this earth. Jesus called all gentiles and the Jewish faith to follow him. Recall that not only was Jesus Jewish, but so were ALL of his apostles. Paul too. They all left the Jewish faith and moved into Christianity. From that point forward the Jewish faith ceased to exist. No more prophets. No more connection with God.
Since Christ, Christianity is the only connection to God. That is, through Jesus.
Islam and what remains of Judaism are political organizations.
you are hilarious and ludicrous all at one time, a true multi tasker
No, you have it wrong, Trump is no dummy being led around on this issue. Trump was in on it all along. Everything that happened was planned. There is no conflct with him and bibi. He wanted to make sure they were successful before taking credit for it. He dealt with Iran like they dealt with him, when their proxies attacked US they said they didnt do it, PDJT said the same thing back to them, its not me its Israel, LOL. It was a show to lull the enemy into a false sense of security, NOw he says forget about negotiations he wants a surrender. He knows what the mullahs are, if he can get regime change he will. Israel is doing the heavy lifting and taking the risks and we have no boots on the ground. Israel has alternatives to the MOP, ground invasion maybe even tactical nukes. If Israel controls the sky and softens the ground and Trump wants credit he will make the move, if it looks too risky he will be the peacemaker. He sucker punched the mullahs.
I see you, and I understand your resistance to open conversation. But I, for one, am very interested in discovering who is truly controlling this nation and what their mindset is. Did you actually listen to the conversation? Doesn’t it set off alarm bells to hear a Senator bumbling around like that, as we just witnessed?
Actually I did not listen to the conversation, I was more interested in comments reactions. I long ago ceased listening to most talking heads because they usually knew less than me and their prediciwere less relist than mine. I am interested in information. I found that although Tucker is somewhat articulate he rarely had info, just opinions and Cruz is uninteresting. At least Cruz has a vote in congress. Neither of them are relevant, just a distraction. They are middlemen, salesmen, not able to shed light on this issue.
Correction: their predictions were less reliable than mine
To be clearer, I am interested in the issues but not their conversations or opinions
President Trump: I am so sorry for voting in the primary in 2016 for Ted Cruz.
Cruz had every chance, and Tucker gave him a lot of them, to pivot to how Cruz thinks America can be helped. Cruz never took those chances. He looks down at Americans, that’s obvious.
So Cruz says emphatically that the Iranians are trying to kill President Trump, but America needs to brush over that…but Pompeo and Bolton have had threats to them from Iran, and America needs to punish Iran for those threats? Make that make sense. If Pompeo was so concerned about his safety, why is he gallivanting overseas in Ukraine?
Game/set/match…Tucker.
Thank you, Sundance, for posting this.
Just from the clip I saw about Cruz not knowing the population of Iran, and the Bible back and forth,
I was literally appalled! I’m no a fan of Tucker – he is s mixed bag – but he totally made Cruz look
like a dope.
So Jeanine – – me too!!!
Back in 2015, I was a regular listener of Mark Levin among others of course Rush etc.
I’m also in GA where Eric Erickson held a Red something event. I was there.
Every single Republican candidate was there. It was in a hotel ballroom.
It was right after the first debate. It had been scheduled for weeks.
The only person who was not going to be in the ballroom was Trump. The crowd for him was too big
and I don’t know who made these arrangements, perhaps the Trump campaign, to have it outdoors at a larger venue
that evening.
During the event at the ballroom, it was announced that Eric had DIS-INVITED Candidate Trump for what he
said when Megan Kelly laid the trap for him, and our President said what he said about Rosie O’Donnell.
I’m from Brooklyn, so Trump was very famous in NY, and I marginally paid attention to him. I read the big stories, but
that’s it.
So because I did not take him seriously, and I was persuaded by others, including Glenn Beck, who also at that time
did not see what we have all come to learn since that time.
PDJT is a hero, a man of courage and honor who loves this country more than anyone!!
So I majorly regret that vote.
A really bad day was when I had to hold my nose to vote for Cruz when he was running against Beto. The lesser of two evils I suppose…
Ya, I almost barfed.
It there is anyone who has disappointed me more in the last 10 years than Ted Cruz, I don’t know who it is.
For me it’s Tucker Carlson.
He acted like he was under the influence of something; he had no inhibition to being downright offensive.
Listen to him often, but this is a low. Not sure he is worth listening to going forward.
The whole thing will probably be over before the weekend, but “conservatives” can moan forever about how Trump was tricked by Israel. Sad!
It’ll be a cakewalk.
How convenient all the Tucker fanboys forget this from 2012:
Tucker Carlson: “Iran deserves to be Annihilated”
https://x.com/LevineJonathan/status/1935384125847777621
Bless your heart, you’re quoting Goldbergh? Stay on topic and please only reliable sources.
I lost a lot of respect for both Cruz and Carlson after watching this tonight.
AS a Political Reader that SUPPORTED TED CRUZ as the Presidential Candidate during the 2016 PRIMARIES til NOW POTUS TRUMP WON the Primary…
I’m EMBARRASSED.
TEXAS SENATOR CRUZ ” BOBBED and WEAVED ” a’La MOHAMMED ALI.
( EVEN by INFERRING Tucker WAS ANTI-SEMITIC by Tucker’s Questions about AIPAC )
TED – NAME NAMES IF THERE ARE IRAN ASSASSINS and STAND STILL ON EITHER FOR or AGAINST BOMBING IRAN !
( SAME with ” Home Rule of D.C. ! )
qrw
Please read more. This has been evident for years. Whoever has misled you—stay away from their input, or at the very least, keep it at arm’s length.
The Secret Service got closer to assassinating Trump in Butler, PA than the Iranians ever did.
I was more shocked that Cruz didn’t respond to Tucker’s statement that we “won” the Cold war but our nation is in shambles.
The amount of straw manning going on in that discussion shows how feminized and hyper-emotional American political discourse has become. It’s all fake and gay. What a waste of 90 minutes.
If your takeaway is just name-calling and writing it off as “fake and gay,” then maybe the problem isn’t the discourse,yes? it’s the lens you’re viewing it through. Critique is fair, but if you want to be taken seriously, engage with substance instead of leaning on played-out insults. And if the truth is alien to you, can you at least state what your truths are?
Im pretty sure my logic is solid. Commenting on the interview and the state of political discourse in America, not sharing my views. Strawman arguments are defined as type of logical fallacy where an opponent’s position is misrepresented, making it easier to refute. This fallacy involves creating a weakened or distorted version of the original argument and then attacking that version instead of the actual position. For example, this can be done by quoting someone out of context, oversimplifying their argument, or inventing a fictitious persona to criticize. The entire interview was full of misrepresentations of what the other said and then moralizing for the audience that already agreed with them. Hence, straw manning by definition.
not a good look for either man.
Ha, Tucker was being an ass. Usually, he is ok to listen to–set aside the cackle, that’s just his mannerism–in a largely conversational tempo with perhaps more interruptions than one would care for. But, this interview–up to the halfway point–is a serial gotcha barrage.
No fan of Cruz, but here he is measured and sensible in the face of a hostile Tucker.
Tucker clearly has a burr under his saddle after his love-in with Bannon earlier this week.
He does have good questions, and he is correctly boring in on key issues that should be debated openly. He is doing his own disservice with his badgering, though.
Seems Jeff Sachs has influenced Tucker immensely.
Fair take, but I think you’re underestimating what Tucker was trying to expose.
Yes, his tone was confrontational, but sometimes that’s what it takes to cut through the polished evasiveness we’ve come to expect from politicians.
Cruz may have sounded measured, but measured doesn’t mean honest or substantive.
When someone dodges basic questions or defaults to rehearsed narratives, pressing harder isn’t badgering, it’s accountability.
Tucker’s style isn’t for everyone, but the issues he raised deserve that level of pressure.
They start right out discussing how they only want friendly’s running other countries. We want to kill Maduro! They both sound like spooks.
That’s either a bad picture, or Cruz is getting ‘porky’.
“Somewhat adversarial?” Did you watch it? Carlson treated Cruz (who invited him into his office and gave him two hours of his time) with gross disrespect, asking insulting “gotcha” questions designed to make Cruz look clueless and foolish. At several points, Carlson laughed in his face. I’m sure Cruz was strongly tempted to throw him out of the room. Look, you can be passionate without being a jerk. Somebody needs to educate Carlson on that.
I did watch it, and I saw something different.
Carlson was definitely aggressive, but that’s not the same as disrespect.
When a politician avoids direct answers on serious issues,especially ones involving national policy and foreign entanglements,tough questions are warranted.
Laughter and a sharp tone might feel uncomfortable, but discomfort isn’t disrespect if it’s a response to evasiveness.
Cruz had two full hours to lay out clear, honest answers.
If that made him look foolish, maybe the issue isn’t the questions. it’s the answers.
Passion without accountability isn’t leadership. It’s just PR.
I have to say this interview is a shame, because a sound debate between these two could have been very productive. Tucker is fringing on pathologically anti-Israel, and Cruz seems too gung-ho; the truth is probably somewhere between.
I generally like Ted Cruz, although it’s hard to tell if his generally solid messaging and voting record means his heart is in the right place or he’s good at playing the game. I used to be a big fan, but I don’t see him taking the hard stances like he used to. Still, if you want a good opinion, look to someone well tied into Texas GOP insider politics, not pundits. For instance, my senator, Steve Daines: he never bucks the GOP establishment except on throw-away votes, but worse, he back-stabbed then-rep Rosendale’s (who was one of the best people in congress) run for the senate. Probably doing McConnell and Thune’s dirty work. That’d the kind of stuff to look out for on the in-betweens.
Anyway, I’ve only heard a couple pull clips from this interview, but the level of hostility in what I’ve heard is simply inappropriate. Even though he probably does know more about Iran than Cruz, he sure managed to blunt his point. “What’s the population of Iran?” “I don’t know.” is all that he needed. By belaboring the point, Tucker undermines his own point. He’s done a lot of good, but I worry about the direction Tucker is drifting. I suppose I shouldn’t take his lack of etiquette as a reason to just tune out to him for good, but it sure doesn’t help.
Cruz failed to coherently defend his bad theology. His comments are proof positive of the negative and disastrous impact of dispensational theology. A careful reading of the Apostle Paul’s letter to the church in Rome would help the senator immensely. When people ascribe the name “Christian” to themselves they really should be able to elucidate what that means. I pray for both men, that the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth of what it means to claim the name of Christ and the sacrifice and way of life doing so entails.
Fully agree. We can argue theology, but I don’t think it can be disputed that dispensationalism was created by a couple of Americans (Darby/Schofield) in the late 1800s/early 1900s. As such given 2000 years of Christian history it should be considered novel, and subject to heightened discernment.
Tucker was just being an ass. It’s ok. It happens. No one can beat Ted Cruz in a debate. Alan Dershowitz, Cruz’s law professor, says Cruz was the most brilliant student he ever taught.
Think about what you just wrote
Someone stumbled over the awful reality of things!
I’ve always thought that Ted Cruz belongs on the Supreme Court.
Nooooo.
Granted, I didn’t see the whole video, …but I watched the first few minutes.
My “feelings” about it , the first few minutes was that both men know each other, and in the past respected each other. Cruz thought Tucker was his “friend”. Tucker went into interview to try to get “gotcha moments on Cruz” and Cruz was going into it to chat to a “friend” who doesn’t always agree on everything.
Tucker and Cruz are friends , that is why Cruz gave tucker 2 hour interview.
Cruz said, we agree on 80 percent of this stuff, and Tucker totally agreed with that.
Cruz said, there is 20 percent we don’t agree on.
Tucker was looking for gotcha moment and Cruz was just having a debate … to help give viewers “Cruz’s perspective”.
Cruz has to surf in shark infested waters …D.C. politics … so Cruz loves surfing, but it could cost him his life (politically) , if a “shark” (scandal pops up) kills him.
I personally wasn’t looking for a echo chamber or an ass-slapping session.
I want substantive questions and honest, well-thought-out answers to positions that affect my nation.
If any of the questions Tucker asked seemed like a “gotcha moment” to you, I think that reveals more about the question itself, and especially about the answer,than you may realize.
If the response felt shocking or disruptive to your thought process or beliefs, then maybe that’s exactly the point.
This is precisely what journalism is supposed to be.
Around 18:50 Cruz says Iran is paying to kill Mike Pompeo and John Bolton. Oh my goodness. That would be terrible. 🙂
Cruz is the real-life Mr. Haney, right down to the nonsensical intonations.
The Talmud says Jesus is boiling in excrement for eternity, but Ted Cruz thinks it’s his Christian duty to support the Talmudic Jewish modern state of Israel. Seems odd to me.
The enemy always has a vote. In any conflict. Like it or not.
Iran’s dictatorship is committed to DEATH TO AMERICA
Do you hear DEATH TO AMERICA from any of the other ~189 countries on this planet? For 45 years??
The Iranian economy is a mess. So is their agriculture and other important segments of their country.
Why are they building ANY nuclear anything?
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When there are massacres of nonbelievers in Africa, no victims are ever asked what political party they favor Lolol lolol
How naive does a person need to be to be blind to the ranian threat!? Sheesh /smh
Knowing now that Carlson is on the Qatari payroll discredits him. He’s just a mouthpiece for foreign influence. An astroturf commenter with a camera rather than a keyboard.
Ad hominem attack to cloud the discussion of something you want obscured?
It’s hard to obscure Tucker’s idiotic laughter, his posing as Trump’s BFF, and the unprofessional way he attempted to entrap Cruz in every question. Tucker will go anywhere and interview anyone for a price – think Andrew Tate. Also remember, it was Tucker who proclaimed rather loudly during the Fox lawsuit after the 2020 election that he hated Trump. Tucker will kiss his own ass if others are not willing.
I watched 1:18:00 of the video. I have enjoyed some of Carlson’s long-form interviews that you have posted here on the Treehouse. But this one reminded me of his Fox show, which we saw occasionally. My wife didn’t like Carlson because when he disagreed with a guest, Carlson constantly interrupted him. I didn’t mind much, as those guests were Leftists or worse.
This video was an egregious example of Carlson’s rudest behavior. He not only interrupted, he sabotaged Senator Cruz with snide, snarky, and trivial interjections, designed to prevent the Senator from completing a thought or even a sentence. Carlson punctuated his attack with his patented crazy laugh at inappropriate times. His objections to any point Senator Cruz tried to make were sophomoric verbal tricks designed only to stop any intelligent conversation in its tracks.
I have long admired Senator Cruz’s conservatism and thoughtful positions; indeed, I have long thought he would be a good choice for the Supreme Court. Carlson in this ‘interview’ struck me as only a pest, buzzing around the Senator’s head like a horse fly. If there were any substance to his objections to the Senator’s positions, I could not discern them.
This, in a nutshell, is the mindset of those controlled by AIPAC and Mossad. Can you honestly say this guy is operating with a full deck? You can see the control mechanism kicking in. The memorized talking points, the reflexive return to the old antisemitism narrative whenever he’s cornered or challenged with facts. We’re in a very dangerous position, and it’s time we shed the influence of these foreign entities that are controlling us.
I don’t care if Tucka sometimes says an opinion that shakes the wrong crowds per his 1A rights, he has far more credibility than his attackers as far as I am concerned.
100% Journalism was never supposed to be softball questions with framed answers. I enjoy the banter, as it reveals more than would normally be revealed.
I’m really tired of Fat Dracula.
Term limits please!!
That was horrible. One of the worst interviews I’ve seen. Tucker is a dick. Cruz is a scumbag politician.
Any one who has a decently large social media following is apt to succumb to influencing.
Often times, they are paid to do so.
The total sell-outs are those for sale and their ideologies differ from their influence.
It used to be the media personas that took advertising $$ for coffee or beer or laundry detergent were assumed they used the products.
If they did not drink the product themselves nor did they use the laundry detergent they were liars for publicly promoting.
But, when they accepted the freebies delivered to their home, that just made them hypocrites.
Now, in the age of social media influencers being political, entertainment, and journo. backgrounds, we can open our eyes and obviously see who is getting support from where.
The unexpected flip-side is the loss of trust with a certain individual.
Political influencing is part of the spin-city. It’s difficult to offend your base. It is what it is. One party or the other.
But, journalistic influencing is another story. Your base trusts your perspective, demeanor, presentation. You break that trust, we are not as forgiving.
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Tucker is more the loser on this one. He should have had better self-control.
Imho
Ted Cruz is a very accomplished lawyer. Tucker Carlson is a BA major from California who made an ass of himself cackling his way through this interview.
Tucker had the receipts and proved the better swordsman in this debate
This is a fascinating interview. It clearly shows where we have come to now because of the internet and mass media decline. In my view it clearly shows the idea of us vs them mentality on the world stage is disappearing. Intelligence agencies are running the show, everyone is caught up in their scam of information and we are definitely heading into perilous but necessary times for a gigantic paradigm shift. Politicians cannot handle long form interviews with serious non main stream journalists. Tucker is unknowingly controlled just like the rest of us but he is definitely dancing around this very important subject. Who really is in charge?
The regime change the world needs is to remove Netanyahu.
The population of the State of Israel wanted him out and amazingly there was a failure to protect their border and a successful attack by Hamas that has led to a state of war that has kept Netanyahu in power.
Remove Netanyahu and everything can deescalate.
Why did Cruz almost lose to Beto O’Rourke?
Don’t miss the main point–this was about 2 different wars: (1) Israel degrading Iran’s war machine (especially its nuclear war program) with American support; and (2) the Obama-Biden-Nuland proxy war against Russia, originally designed to topple a neutral Ukraine (under Viktor Yanukovych) and install a series of US-NATO puppets (currently Zelensky). Cruz won argument (1) hands down, but on (2) he showed he believed the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex warmonger propaganda. War is profitable for Lockheed Martin etc. Tucker, Sundance, and many of us understand that (2) was always wrong and has done massive damage to the good relationship Trump used to have with Putin, going over the heads of the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complexes of both our countries for the good of the people involved. Trump said he would end that war on the day he assumed office, it not before–and he could have–but (as Sundance tirelessly points out) the US Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex is extremely powerful and may well now have bamboozled Trump, as Fauci bamboozled him during the Mass Hysteria into allowing the lockdowns and pushing the deadly injections. Putin is not pure evil and Trump is not pure goodness. Only Jesus Christ is pure truth. You secularists may not believe the Bible, but many of us (including Cruz) do, and Tucker is especially silly and dismissive about that all-important matter.
Both Tucker and Ted pride themselves on being accomplished debaters. I think Tucker went into this to prove he was a better debater than Ted but didn’t give Ted a heads up. Ted thought they were going to have a nice conversation and didn’t get a chance to brush up on the facts beforehand. Ted will probably regret this recording because it’s going to be there forever. He did not look like Alan Dershowitz’ prize student in this one.
Tucker manhandled Ted and exposed him for the fraud he is.