Not surprisingly, a few people viewed my research presentation of JD Vance through a prism of negativity. [SEE HERE] We have many new readers who are not as in-tune with the details of how the bad parts of the DC surveillance state work. So, let me take you behind the scenes a little and expand for context.
Nothing written about the data set, the facts within the JD Vance storyline, is incorrect. Everything is cited, accurate and factually true. However, when you get into the intent and consequence part, that’s when people start to become emotional. Some clarity is needed.
Commenter Freedom Ring provides a good example. FR says, “JD has an association with Theil [sp?] & Musk; this could be worded to be a positive or negative, but the article paints it as a negative.”
This is correct. The research article positions the relationship between JD Vance and Peter Thiel as a serious challenge, here’s why.
Since his original endorsement of Donald Trump in 2016, a good thing, billionaire tech executive Peter Thiel has expanded his company, Palantir Technology, to be the leading edge of a data-processing system. The Palantir tech is designed to use artificial intelligence (AI) to crawl through massive sets of surveillance data, phone data, facial recognition data, metadata (writ large) etc.
In essence Palantir Tech is receiving government contracts (Defense and Intel) to use the Palantir AI tools to analyze/filter a massive amount of electronic data, and take action based on results from the data, or what might be called SIGNIT (Signals Intelligence). There are billions at stake in this relationship.
In short, Thiel has a vested financial interest in providing AI surveillance filtration tools to the U.S. government.
Ok fine. That’s just a simple acceptance of what Thiel’s company does now. And Thiel recruited JD Vance back in 2012/2013 while at Yale law school, and personally financed JD’s entry into the world of politics in 2020/2021. I won’t repeat all the citations but suffice to say, without Thiel there is no Senator/VP Vance. Thiel leveraged his relationship with Donald Trump to get JD Vance the Ohio primary endorsement in 2022, and the rest is history. Fair enough. Nothing disputed.
Here’s where things get sticky….
Thiel’s company Palantir Tech provides the AI metadata analytic tools used by the U.S. government in their national security efforts. The government access to that metadata comes, in part, as an outcome of the legislative FISA authorization. As a consequence, eliminating, say… FISA(702) surveillance processes, is against the financial interests of Peter Thiel. If the U.S. government cannot access the dataset, the U.S. govt doesn’t need Palantir’s AI filtration tech. That’s just the nature of the relationship.
Again, this is just a cold, factual acceptance of the situation.
Would JD Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?
Again, just a question. Perhaps he would, perhaps not; however, a review of history shows the odds are not in our favor.
I mean, there is a reason why Thiel recruited, financed, supported and guided Vance to the position he is now in, correct?
Elon Musk’s entire business model, sans X (maybe – lol) is contingent upon government contracts and policy.
Regardless of his altruistic disposition, or lack thereof, Musk’s enterprises, Tesla and Space-X, do not exist without direct government funding or indirect govt support via policy. Peter Thiel is essentially in the same position with Palantir Tech, unless the U.S. Government gave him permission to sell his services to foreign adversaries. Not likely.
Many are looking at JD Vance as the guy, maybe one of the ‘guys’, who can finally confront the worst elements of the Deep State. However, the worst elements of the Deep State, the surveillance and control silos, are in a synergistic relationship with Vance’s benefactors. Will Vance willingly tear apart the surveillance state, that will create a negative financial outcome for those who put him into office? My note of caution is ‘don’t get your hopes up.’
I mean, seriously think about it. Musk puts up USG satellites that monitor stuff. The low-earth-orbit monitoring results (data signals) are returned to the USG. The data signals are then analyzed by AI tech created by Thiel.
Another way to look at it…. Musk puts the camera on your face. Thiel tells the govt where you went.
♦ BIG PICTURE – Are the newest group of billionaire Silicon Valley tech leaders currently supporting MAGA Trump/Vance, really a modern assembly of the Green Dragon rebels in Boston, plotting the next Tea Party rebellion. Or are they simply just the other side of a new modern Technocratic control system, aligned with and dependent on government?
The Obama-era ‘Technocracy‘ was based on public-private partnerships with social media. This was the origin of the surveillance state that now scours, controls, filters, censors and ultimately monetizes your social media data profile. The operational and business model is cemented into the process now. Everyone accepts it. Terms and conditions apply, and if you don’t agree, you can’t use.
Is the pending Trump-era ‘Technocracy‘ a rebrand, pushing social media off to the side (that part is done) and bringing data processing control agents, artificial intelligence software designers, big money venture capitalists, banks and those who are creating digital id systems. Does Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg and Vivek Ramaswamy, now occupy the empty chairs around the table of Technocracy?
Was the 5/10-year business model in the mind of tech billionaire Peter Thiel what led him to recruit JD Vance in 2013. Was it a financial decision blended with ideology to guide, finance and support JD Vance all the way to 2022 and 2024? Was JD Vance an investment?
Truly, I suspect our gut knows the answer.
That’s why my approach is to say, “here’s the factual data – trust your instincts.”
[SOURCE]
Around this time someone will snark, saying my assembling this perspective indicates President Trump is an idiot, or something.
NO! President Trump is not stupid, or naïve!
CTH has painstakingly outlined how the silo process within the Deep State works. You have more information about that process. You have more knowledge about that process.
All of us, courtesy of dozens of brilliant researchers here and in lots of other places on the internet, have a far more comprehensive understanding of how the systems within the DC administrative state work than any subset of professional politicians or their staff.
Are you stupid or naïve? No. None of us are.
However, many of us are sick and tired of having the virtue of our patriotism weaponized against us. For reference see DHS, ODNI, CISA, TSA, The Patriot Act, or any other of the myriads of crisis-created legislative solutions, later turned into tools by bad actors that inevitably diminish freedom.
I was sitting at dinner with a good person, who happened to be the head, the tipy-top, of one of the most connected IC silos in Washington DC, and that person laughed recalling situations where they walked into their office many days and frustratingly shouted at their staff, “who the f**k is leaking information to this guy,” meaning me. No one was leaking anything, and the entire organization was just as surprised as the leader of it.
My point is that many ordinary Americans know far more about the interconnectedness of DC silo operations, than the people within the individual silos can fathom. They are stuck inside a purposefully created system of compartmentalization; we are not.
The overwhelming odds are that you know more than your federal representative. That fact doesn’t make you smarter than President Donald J Trump, it just means you have a different set of researched datapoints that create a different understanding.
Additionally, President Trump doesn’t “vett” anyone, someone else does the “vetting” for him. That vetting helps him to make decisions, it doesn’t exclusively determine the final decision.
No one is stupid in this discussion. No one knows all the information. The fact-finding is a process of information assembly, that permits guidance to decision making. That’s it.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) might have been a good decision at the time, until it starts getting weaponized later on.
Given the nature of the political landscape, Senator JD Vance was a good selection for Veep. A candidate for the office of the vice-presidency that will hopefully position President Trump and the people around him to be able to start putting countermeasures into place that will stop this government weaponization, a seemingly out of control surveillance state.
Senator JD Vance helps to unite the various Republican clans.
Perhaps more valuable, his selection reduces the possibility of the Silicon Valley Technocrats to work against OUR interests – as we look to control THEIR influence.
More importantly, Senator JD Vance makes winning in November of 2024 more likely. That’s the key value in his personage.
Perhaps Vance is a tool, perhaps he’s an ally, who knows. However, we must understand the context of everything that comes with him, nothing more.
Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.
If we win in November, we then have an opportunity to start putting countermeasures and guardrails into place that will seemingly impede the efforts of the bad operators within each IC silo. Simultaneously, we need to identify who each bad actor is.
This mission then becomes the reversal of weaponization we desperately need.
I am optimistic about victory in November. However, I am also comprehensive about the nature of the enemy we face.
I recently suggested, partly tongue in cheek, for congress to enact legislation that simply says:
If any president dies during his term in office, all actionable authorization within agencies of the CIA, FBI, DNI and DHS is immediately revoked, until such a time as new legislative authorities can be debated, assembled and reauthorized by congress.
Daisy… Daisy…
Love to all.
Hopefully Vance is their barometer so they don’t get in to deep anymore.
Hopefully they looked in the mirror and didn’t like what they saw.
Sundance, your in-depth analyses on such subjects are illuminating the dangers of a now and future surveillance state and that is a huge service to those of us searching for truth in a post-truth world.
But there is wisdom in the old adage, “we’ll cross those bridges when we come to them.”
America’s immediate and pressing need is for President Trump to win the election in 3-1/2 month…and good things will follow from that.
It’s true that JD Vance may be beholding to Theil but, in my mind, he was the lesser of 4 evils considering the other choices: Doug Burgum, who was Rupert Murdoch’s vp pick, (an automatically disqualifying fact), Marco Rubio, who is exponentially more compromised than Vance or Tim Scott, whose full-throated endorsement of Murkowski awhile back tells me exactly who he is.
If we are known by the company we keep, Vance also has the endorsement of good people, like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk…that’s right, Musk, who is pledging $180 million to the Trump campaign despite Trump’s pledge to end the electric vehicle mandate on day one!
And why would he do that? People can change or act against their financial best interests because it’s the right thing to do. Can there be any better example of that than Donald Trump himself, who would be a richer and less persecuted man had he not risked everything for sake of the country he loves.
So I think Vance deserves the chance to prove his character…if only because we have no other choice!
Immediately add it to my wheelhouse.
These billionaires usually get returns on their investments. The information here in light of the created mirror image of the similarly created kenyan (Sundance) tells me we’re looking at a future of dynamic control by the US Government. It’s not as though we haven’t seen the basics already put in place before now. Whether the full-blown Big Brother watching with CBDC happens sooner rather then later, that type of control is their goal and all a PDT Presidentcy will do at most is delay it for 4 years. Makes one think it will take time for the globalist trash to totally destroy the US dollar again after PDT rebuilds it after the damage they were able to inflict over the past 4 years.
What did Trump give Thiel after his endorsement in 2016? A good economy?
I don’t know the details, but Thiel’s companies earn their billions primarily from government contracts
That’s how his companies survive
Snicker…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Contractors_of_the_U.S._federal_government
Start a long line.
I didn’t want to guffaw at your comment and offend you so that’s why I just snickered instead.
I didn’t say he was a high number in terms of government. I said almost all the contracts he has are government contracts.
Snicker all you wish
Is Kash Patel a natural born citizen? We know Rep. Donalds is.
There were other choices than the Four Horsemen and if not then we have some more work to do as a Nation if we are allowed to regain footing.
Action Item 25: find some sandy Patriots worth running this Republic like they mean it, just like President Trump.
My first veep choice was Vivak but I understand the appeal a JD Vance should have in the Rust Belt, having grown up in poverty in an area of Ohio that was vastly less poverty stricken when I was a kid, (back in the 50s).
Trump expects Vance to help deliver the battleground states, Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan…and with the latest Michigan polls showing Trump with a 7 point lead, including a 2 point lead in the DETROIT METRO area, he may have chosen well.
Vivek Ramaswamy is not a natural-born citizen. Vivek is an anchor baby who got the Benefits of that fraudulent birthright citizenship that Trump looks down on sharply. Vivek was put through college by George Soros. When Vivek first came on the scene, he stated that President Trump was wrong to cancel Obama’s (TPP) Trans-Pacific Partnership, and later said that with a few changes, he wanted to see it approved (for the lack of a better word). Vivek’s father never became a citizen of the US. He never wanted to be a citizen of the US, as explained by Vivek when asked in an interview with (a CBS anchor (?) not sure if it was CBS. Still, it was some liberal media); I see Vivek mostly like Obama—a good talker. Vivek stated in a different interview that Trump told Vivek that he gives him a headache. I never expected Vivek to be Trump’s VP pick. I know Vivek was on a list as an up-and-coming globalist by the WEF World Economic Forum, and Vivek Sued the WEF to get his name removed.
Yes, especially since Peter Thiel endorsed Trump in 2016 and spoke at the Convention.
Have you seen Musk’s new gravatar on X? Same pic but with an American flag background, laser eyes like Dark Brandon and a reddish tint over all. Ready for battle.
I just looked at it. I’m reading the laser eyes are a symbol of a pro-crypto culture.
I think Elon will be a frequent advisor to Trump during his Presidency. They can battle the deep state machine together!
Your perspective is enlightening and refreshing.
If only the average American would pay attention to 5% of it.
I think it’s starting to improve, although only minimally and very slowly.
I only speak about important matters with my siblings and one close friend who I’ve known for almost 55 years.
I have noticed that this is the FIRST event that doesn’t look “right” to them, and apparently there are some relatively truthful tidbits that are getting broadcast on the TV.
This is a FIRST time one of my siblings has become even remotely suspicious.
I know they don’t believe anything I’ve told them, but that’s okay. I literally don’t care if they believe me.
I simply want them to have exposure to some of the vile noxious disgusting facts that will soon become public knowledge. Remove a bit of the shock and despair anger beforehand
Nobody else.
Everyone else gets to have their full blown BIG Awakening of their own accord, in their own way.
So I say nothing, and I’m determined to never interfere with upcoming Great Wake Up
Except my siblings
Two points:
The core of negotiating a real estate deal is compromise. Leverage gives you the weaponry, compromise gets you the agreement.
There is no mortal we can trust except Donald John Trump. No one else. All our eggs are in PDJT’s basket.
well he took a bullet for Democracy. I guess my biggest fears are with who Pence turned out to be.
Thank you again, Sundance!
I appreciated perspective I gained the other day coming up about JD Vance and his relationships with Peter Thiel and Elon Musk from your wonderful (as usual) analysis. After 12 years of going to the Treehouse, I find your analyses eminently reliable.
I have wondered if Elon Musk would ever pull some kind of awful surprise on MAGA/America First at some critical moment. Twitter – X – has become increasingly a place to go to find things not in the “mainstream news”. I even subscribed to it so that I can make longer posts which is helpful when wanting to paste something from somewhere else.
Following especially the events of a week ago Saturday, it was with a great deal of gratitude that there IS the “new” Twitter – X. I hope and pray that Elon Musk is really for real and that he will really be there for MAGA, as we get closer to Election Day and then afterwards.
So, a few minutes ago, I just went over there to X and was surprised to find that I have been suspended! I can’t for the life of me think why. I avoid using bad words or saying anything gruesome or threatening to any person. I am trying to think what it could be.
My most recent comments I think were about my thoughts that Hillary Clinton may be showing up in Chicago for the convention, with every expectation to be THE candidate for 2024, replacing Joe . . . my theory is that the news that the WikiLeaksDNC files were to be destroyed may have resulted in renewed ambition to run and maybe behind the scenes she started throwing her weight around which caused a change in plans regarding Biden. But of course, I could be all wet and why would that cause me to be suspended anyway?
I am just posting this here, not endeavoring to put this on The Treehouse or any fellow Treepers to necessarily figure this out but to accentuate our need for THIS place, for MAGA and America First. As far one possibly can, to support the Treehouse and do what one can so that it will be here!
This is what X told me:
Your account is suspended After careful review, we determined your account broke the X Rules. Your account is permanently in read-only mode, which means you can’t post, Repost, or Like content. You won’t be able to create new accounts. If you think we got this wrong, you can submit an appeal.
that happened to me a few weeks ago. It happened to a LOT of small conservative accounts. I think they do purging every now ant then and sometimes get found out…Most of us got our accounts back. Always have a backup account because I am convinced X will continue to purge and cancel people as we get closer to the election. I also did NOTHING posted NOTHING offensive, etc. They just said nope, buy bye…forget the appeal, there is no way to get your account back unless they suddenly change their mind. I have a back up on X as well as Gettr and Truth. Sad but it has to be done…
But I thought Elon was the savior of Free Speech (sarc).
I wrote them a little note asking about the suspension (in the window provided on the “appeal” page).
Will check it later to see if they unsuspended me. I told them I am not a bot, if that was the problem . . . of course, maybe a bot could try to tell them that, too!
I’m of the firm belief that with years X will be merged with Truth Social which will be the the place that everyone goes.
It’ll be different fast and dozens of features…. Some of which I think will be test run on X
I did not have a backup account and now I’m having trouble getting new followers. I had a pretty decent account. I didn’t tweet a lot, but I did tweet TO President Trump and it was before the shooting. It was a good luck message, for the convention. Nothing mean, etc. Now I can’t remember the lady who helped me get started, she pimped my account several times. Donna someone lol
I tweeted to President Trump one week ago and I got the SAME thing. Permanently BANNED.
I have a feeling that Truth Social is the only one that remains standing…… AND I believe that X will be merged with it.
What happens to Elon?
Wait and see.
The algorithms are just that machines. Submit the appeal dont take no for an answer.
Well, I received an answer this evening from X as to why my account is suspended and I still don’t understand, I have no idea how it was that I violated any rules!
I am just putting this here as an example for anyone else who may encounter this, having been a fan of Elon Musk and Twitter/X but inexplicably being sent into the outer darkness. I don’t expect Elon Musk to be aware of every little thing that is happening but if someone is doing things to X to alienate supporters, I hope that he is apprised of this soon. I went onto Twitter in 2009 and I thought I was a person “in good standing”.
So, in the meanwhile, until Elon and his people realize there is some kind of glitch happening, I guess that’s that! I was really believing that Elon Musk is truly a supporter of the First Amendment which is more important than ever right now.
If X is going to become unavailable to many others like myself, it is more important than ever to support The Conservative Treehouse as an “endangered species”!
“The Crushing of Light”
The crushing of light
is really an impossible thing
Light travels too quickly for lies to catch it
It emerges in places unexpected
It fills hearts without notice
It sets free the minds of captors and captives
– Susan Jacob
(written on June 4, 1999, the 10th anniversary of Tiananmen Square)
E-mail received from X regarding my suspension:
e-mail:
Hello,
Your account was suspended due to multiple or repeat violations of the X Rules: https://x.com/rules.
This account will not be restored.
This case will now be closed and replies will not be monitored.
Thanks,
X
Thank you for documenting this for all here. I never joined Twitter/ X, but I follow the best I can the censorship trends.
I hope SD sees your post.
Last night, I wrote an e-mail to an address I found and I DID at least get an answer that they were busy, but to check back –
I had gone to X to stop the $16.00 monthly fee I was paying (for more characters/space) but then I could not even do that because I was suspended. I had thought I should put that $16.00 over to my monthly donation to the CTH (currently $25.00 which would then become $41.00) but then I could not even do that, which makes it seem even more of a glitch, not “thought out”.
Now I finally joined Truth Social this morning . . . nice to see familiar names, like Catturd!
Call you credit card and deny further charges as unauthorized sine X cancelled your account and denied you access.
I love Truth! See you there too!
“Hire the best person for the job. And then don’t trust them.” – Donald J. Trump
Wonderful!
Great adage!
So very true.
He’s the only person I never criticize when he happens to enthusiastically utter some stray positive thinking nonsense.
He can help it
It’s because as a youngster his family attended Norman Vincent Peale’s Christan denomination church in New York City.
He grew up programed with THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING every single Sunday, so he’s can’t help it!!!
I just luv his cynical sarcasm, nothing pollyanna about so many of his views I much prefer his negative assessments of ANYTHING and often they are highly humorous.
Yet the normies go ballistic. Meltdowns extraordinare! Mm
Modernity has not been favorable for the youth, undereducated and overly indoctrinated.
I want to like your comment 1,000 times1
I appreciate it that you mention that as a youngster that he attended with his family Norman Vincent Peale’s church (Marble Collegiate in NYC) –
one of my grandmothers had all of the books by Dr. Peale and would loan them to me to read, plus her latest copy of “Guideposts” –
when my Dad passed away (when I was 16, older brother 19 and little brother 14), it really was hard to get through those first months and I remember reading “The Prophet” a lot, memorizing “Of Joy and Sorrow” but mostly reading all of Dr. Peale’s “The Power of Positive Thinking” and typing parts of it on little cards (on the old Underwood typewriter) and taping them discreetly on the wall by my bed.
Yale law.
Ugh.
Anything Yale.
Well thanks, Sundance, for giving those of us who like JD Vance a little credit!
I think Vance is an asset to President Trump. No one owns Trump and no one owns JD Vance. I trust President Trump knows what he is doing…this time.
Trump made his own money.
Vance did not. He’s financed by billionaires.
So how do you know he’s not owned to some degree?
Hopefully he used them to get where he is and will now be independent, but that’s not how it usually works.
Musk did not either.
Haven’t I read somewhere that Elon Musk’s father owns an Emerald mine, and his mom is quite wealthy?
Besides he and Thiel were founders of PayPal which obviously was financed by CIA/DARPA
Wait a second !
He had a long running best seller remain near the top of the charts for years
Then the movie was made, I think it was by Ron Howard.
It’s still up on Netflix.
He went to college on the GI bill, completed it in mere two years, and was so academically proficient that he received a full paid scholarship to Yale Law School
I think he got a loan from Thiel to startup his own investment firm, but that loan was probably paid back years ago.
HE went to work for Thiel for 6 years before getting the investment for his own shop.
Sundance just explained how Thiel owns Vance.
Great article.
I am often reminded of the old Persian proverb – the dogs will bark, but the caravan moves on.
My inclination is to want to elaborate on this, but it is not necessary. That says it all so well.
Hopefully we can keep people in power who are responsible about that power.
Bring to mind a article from American Thinker while Rush still on
The type of people that want govt positions… crave higher & higher levels, power, influence.
The way civil service works you’re expected to grow into higher positions as you mature. That’s simply the norm expected out of bureaucrats
Wonderful proverb.
Simultaneously both wise and dramatic
If you abstain from the game, you have conceded.
Guess this is the place to share the link to this Part 2 substack article by thenakedemperor, on the topic of JD Vance, Peter Theil and silicon valley venture capitalists obsession with Tolkein’s The Lord of the Rings. I don’t agree with the ideology the author claims Mr. Theil embraces, but it is an interesting perspective to understand if this is true as to how those people think.
Titled “The Fellowship of Silicon Valley -Frodo Vance Makes the Perilous Journey With the One Ring of Power to the White House, Part 2”:
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-fellowship-of-silicon-valley-8c2
God bless you!!
Immaculate timing!
I can’t stand fantasy, but I am curious where the terms Palintir and Mithril came from and why he remains obsessed with a book he read so long ago
Is this even possible? A good person at the top of an IC silo? Decepticon, okay. Good person? Not so much.
Wait a minute, wait a minute here . . .
The tipy-top?
Can’t believe I missed that.
SD, you sly dog. I guess you didn’t have to vet that source after all.
👏👏👏
Okay then. We’ll go with this.
Back to my Pascal’s Wager on VSGPDJT.
P squared, the answer to your question is Yes.
Think about it. It will come to you.
Infiltration works both ways.
Good people of high moral calibre have taken all kinds of positions in all areas of government, military, Big Tech, etc
Since it’s extremely scary to successfully infiltrate what has essentially become. a mammoth criminal syndicate on steroids…… really scary to walk right in and pretend you’re one of them …. But you’re actually mole and your true objective is to unobtrusively collect EVIDENCE & names, without ever being detected.
I bring the SCARY word because this is dangerous work, usually accomplished by retired members of U.S. Special Forces who’ve found positions at the CIA, which incidentally they intentionally infiltrated to start with.
It’s a many decades long story, and like all stories it must end some time. We’re all here on the final lap.
Anyway these dudes , these green berets, rangers, seals and people so highly trained that we don’t and won’t ever know what they’re called —
They ain’t scared of nothing, not anything, with of course the exception of their wives.
So, YES, it actually possible to find pure good true white hats throughout the mammoth criminal syndicate we mistakenly believe is a government
All God-less scruffy-faced wimps with premature balding, thick framed glasses, Christianity-mocking, non-spiritual, non-athletic, shorn hair, taut pale faces, tie-less, euro-cut-pant-wearing, hoodie wearing, Tesla-obsessed, (with kids named Bella, Ella, Ava, Aidan, Jaxson, Jack, Asher) , annoying people who complain about people trying to be nice to them on trips and restaurants with know-it-all smugness. Basically, everyone in Silicon Valley, SF, Bel Aire, Rancho Santa Fe, La Jolla, Del Mar, Manhattan, Palo Alto, Redmon (WA), Boston, DC, Chicago, and Minneapolis and live in boxy monstrosity modern homes that are out of place in the neighborhood and block everyone else’s view (and if they have a beach house, only use it 2 weeks in the summer and can’t even surf!).
And RACINE, don’t ever forget Racine Wisconsin…
It’s the root of all evil.
“The Parousia” on X has ongoing details about it
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One thing I have learned on the rare occasions I have had interaction with uber-wealthy Big Tech guys (not Vance, but those who hail from a purely code-geek, largely uneducated or very narrowly educated background, which applies to most) is that these are essentially non-ideological people.
They are interested in computer/tech “cool sht” and making money from it (like game points) and otherwise tend to not know and/or not care, except very very superficially on the order of a 7th grader gamer’s world view, the effects good or bad of what they are doing.
They don’t wish to do evil or harm anyone, but at the very same time they also are disinterested in doing good, or the wellbeing of anyone else, and mostly oblivious to things such as history, values, civic principles, religion, patriotism, and other concepts that have meaning to others. Except for superficial lip service IF pushed (“Of course I’m for free speech/liberty/whatever…”) They Just Do Not Care.
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it is because they do not have to worry about next months power bill. Their view of the world is vastly different than ours
Oppenheimer.
Some don’t realize until the mushroom cloud stares them in the face
That’s meme material!
VERY good!
Thoughts on Trump’s sudden turn about regarding the legitimacy of Bitcoin and all things in the Crypto world….?
Softwar
By Lowry
Bitcoin is more than just the answer to CBDG
So…. maybe President Trump can convince Thiel (and Musk and those they have influence over) that they can switch course slightly and still maintain their current level of wealth and power? I have no idea what that could be, but Trump is known to be a master negotiator, and clearly has the charisma and power of persuasion far above most normal humans. So if President Donald J. Trump (Act 2) can convince Thiel and others that, in the end, they’ll be just fine even if part of the Deep State collapses… well…
Does this mean we can expect Zuckerbucks in the mid-term elections?
Nope.
You can’t reason with that type of rigid proud arrogant self-absorbed narcissistic self regard
Impossible!
Superiority complex on steroids.
These *special* souls will probably have to be whipped into shape to see the proverbial light
Hell! Send them to boot camp where they might mature
US Military has a long reputation of successfully turning boys into men. It will just take longer with the mob of perennial adolescents
Trust but verify:
1) it’s possible JD played Thiel as much as Thiel played JD; and
2) perhaps Theil/Musk et al will turn the eye of Sauron toward the communists.
Your #2 was the main point of my comment just above yours. If Trump can convince Thiel, Musk, etc that they can do what they probably in their hearts WANT to do (“turn the eye of Sauron toward” the bad guys), while maintaining a high level of wealth and power, then it just might happen.
Both Theil and Musk could lose 99% of their wealth and still be 99.9999% wealthier than anyone else on the planet.
Oh, boo hoo hoo, poor liddle riche boys!!!!!
Hopefully, they realize by now that the Communists are not in Russia they are here!
Under the guise of religious persecution?
Did you read the article in Zerohedge.
Eric Weinstein claims the techies are leaving the Democrat Party because of the communism
Amen, brother!!!!!!!
Good insight!
Like Sundance, I was all in for Dr. Carson. He would have made a fine VP and POTUS. The man is the embodiment of achievement. Sadly, that ship has sailed and now we must trust that President Trump is dialed into this high stakes poker game. I trust that he holds a winning hand and can recognize a bluff when he sees one. If he goes “all in”, then I must trust his judgment. I can’t see his cards, but then again, that’s why it’s called faith.
Due to his poor physical health mentioned by Sundance, Dr. Carson would not have been able to be a fine VP and POTUS.
First, Win on 11/5, then we can sort out the rest. Until then,… “Verify then Trust, then Verify Again!
I agree! We need to focus on the upcoming election on Nov. 5th. The decision has been made and a VP candidate is named. No point of crying about it. All of us have our own choices, but it is not us at the end of the day, the decision maker. Either we support Trump or we don’t. I will support President Trump’s choice for his VP especially now that it is not Haley or Rubio. As for 2028? That’s a different ball of wax. I’ll cross the bridge when I come to it. In the meantime… GO TRUMP-VANCE 2024.
Nice SUNDANCE
I HAVE BEEN A STUDENT OF YOURS SINCE WE WERE ON TWITTER
YOUR RECENT ARTICLE ON JD VANCE WAS A REAL EYE OPENER & THIS 2nd ARTICLE SOLIDIFIES THE FACT THAT WE NEVER HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE
#EyesWideOpen
What a great article!❤️ Thank you SD for your honest, non-emotional perspective. It’s a much needed breath of fresh air. Sunlight without the sunscreen!🙂
Great synopsis @sundance as we continue to live our best lives while at the same time always being vigilant, well informed, and prepared.
Where was the attack on Trump when Peter Thiel endorsed him in 2016? Thiel spoke at the RNC Convention.
Please link if this was discussed at the time.
Where was the attack by Pence in 2016?
I think it’s still classified. Maybe something to do with Hawaii. Or maybe Las Vegas
Or perhaps just that timeframe
We won’t learn until it gets declassified
Good question.
While AI continues is technological evolution into trans-humanism, it will prove that the Darwinian theory is false, not natural.
The species destroying the species by trying to preserve the species.. sounds like we are too dumb to live.
With this AI satellite technology keeping eyes on all of us, how did the now deceased kid on a hot slopey roof get access to 3 overseas bank accounts linked to Iran without triggering at least one orange flag within Thiel’s technology?
…because the AI Satellite was very busy searching for Catholic School Moms!
Because the threat to Thiel and his elitist cabal are populists in red ball caps.
There are intelligence balloons up over the US every minute of every day, and also planes being flown that can see a soccer ball thirty miles away.
Military intelligence has pics of everything that went down, and all the comms too.
It isn’t actually a mystery. It’s a coverup.
So far.
“Daisy, Daisy, Daisy tell me true,’ sang Hal — scared the crap out of me when I saw 2001 Space Odyssey in my late teens!
Sneaky, snoopy old Hal!
Early days I felt my computer was possibly spying on me. Now I discovered all that futuristic crap is true!
I guess I have had the rug pulled out from under me enough (politically) that there isn’t much of Pollyanna left. I am a “prove it” kind of person these days. I don’t take much at face value. I don’t consider it pessimism. I consider it survival.
Put a piece of tape over your computer’s camera. Maybe I’m paranoid but that’s what I did. At least they can’t see me.
Ah.
I never watched that one.
That fits better.
Thanks.
more analysis
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/
Is this the same Whitney Webb who accused President Trump of having mob ties? Because according to her it is impossible for one to become a billionaire – especially in New York – without the mob?
Makes sense. Thank you, SD.
Viewing JD Vance negatively is now somewhere between counter-productive and irrelevant for Donald Trump and for MAGA.
It makes me think of that mother-in-law trying to break the happy couple up song by Ernie K-Doe .
Can someone close to Trump demand that True the Vote’s tireless workhorse on Election integrity, Catherine Engelbrecht, be appointed FEDERAL ELECTIONS COMMISSIONER…… for Pete’s sake!
And FIRE FBI Director Wray on Day 1?
Pete would definitely not approve. It would interfere with his vice presidential ambitions.
Is there any chance these Vance backing technocrats would prefer to block a CBDC because they believe there are trillions to be made running crypto exchanges, etc., and a CBDC would almost of necessity need to outlaw other mediums of digital exchange to make a deep state surveillance and social credit system effective?
Could be a small silver lining in this situation if greed for more money and power lead them to believe they will accumulate more wealth and more power with an ownership interest in digital finance than just providing services to the government. Congruent interests, at least in part if they want to short circuit a Fedgov takeover?
I just want to drive cars like my old car that had NO GPS or cameras. All the dials and knobs were within easy and predictable reach so I could keep my eyes on the road and not take off my glasses to tap on a master “screen” with thousands of non-implicit symbols or words in 8-point font and then click 456 times to turn down the AC or change the radio station. No way for Govt. to track me aside from illegal license plate readers. These new ALL TOUCHSCREEN control panels are causing untold amount of accidents. Screw autonomous cars; ride the hobo-bus!
Yup. Nothing like my 25 year old diesel truck. Nav app with downloaded maps. Ditched the cellphone too.
Problem solver…go buy an old car if you don’t already have one.
You aren’t being forced to buy, or use, a new fangled car…yet.
“Since his original endorsement of Donald Trump in 2016, a good thing, billionaire tech executive Peter Thiel has expanded his company, Palantir Technology, to be the leading edge of a data-processing system. The Palantir tech is designed to use artificial intelligence (AI) to crawl through massive sets of surveillance data, phone data, facial recognition data, metadata (writ large) etc.”
So does this mean that with their guy in position for a VP slot they can use their “observation techniques” to confirm a fair election with no cheating and stuffing of the ballot boxes with last minute mail-in ballots?????????
They could have done it anytime – VP or not.
April 19, 2024 – Vance (R-OH), Not Voting
MAGA may become just a fading silk-screened logo on an old t-shirt stretched over a gleaming AI torso.
Comparing the attempt to con us into voting for Ron DeSantis in the primaries with getting JD Vance to where he is today is like comparing a high school play to a Broadway production.
The Bible gives us the future one must look for it. In the last days of the church strange things will happen.
The first Seal has been broken.
Jesus is going to return.
Until then worldly things get worse in fact 1/4 of humanity will be killed if he doesnt return all flesh would perish.
Sundance is 100% correct we can live outside their EVIL
Sundance, a salute to your informed, open-eyed realism. That’s the second most important key to any possible success for us.
The first relates to the best thing you said (out of many in this post): “trust God.” We must not forget that who is really driving the dark side isn’t the tech billionaires, or the deep state players — it is “principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world,” led by Satan. And “Did we in our own strength confide, Our striving would be losing; Were not the right Man on our side, The Man of God’s own choosing. Dost ask who that may be? Christ Jesus, it is He! Lord Sabaoth His Name, From age to age the same: And He must win the battle.”
These techno-giants are this century’s rendition of the 1970’s welfare queens, only on a much larger scale.
I apologize if this point has already been made: It seems like the best indicator of whose side Vance is on can be determined by how hard the media and DS come after him. It’s been a crazy week and the media has been totally focused on getting Biden out of the way so not much has come out yet. The few negative stories I have seen from the left are shrieking that he is worse than Trump bc he has the same economic nationalism except smarter and more disciplined. If he sincerely is MAGA, then media /DS/IC will treat him like Trump.
Tucker Carlson made the point that all the war profiteers and worst characters in the GOP hate Vance. Before Trump made the decision on VP, all these same people had the knives out pushing anyone besides Vance.
People have no idea what is going on over their heads or the information capabilities at hand NOW, much less in the future.
Up, up and way in my beautiful balloon…
https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Ballooning_Business_for_Shrinking_Cameras
All of this information is well and good but in 2016 JD Vance voted for Evan McMuffin for president. McMuffin is a neocon member of the surveillance state and no populist conservative in his right mind would vote for him. I trust JD Vance about as far as I can throw the building I’m in right now.
With so many hi-tek folks joining together with Trump, et. al. maybe there is a coming shift, and or disruption, of the power grid $$$ that they are hoping to take advantage of from a position of having helped the new President to win.
And no way am I a tech savvy person,,,,,,when I was in high school, the hi-tech computing tool was a Round Slide rule. I also have my first hand held electonic calculator,,,,it multiplied, devided, added substracted, and would store one entry. My great gramdkids may have a fortune.
Does your wife like your passive aggression?
It’s not passive aggressive Sundowner, you’re just a generally negative person hiding out here. You need to check out the difference between truth, as God tells us to seek, and your vision of the world which is flawed like all of us. Tell the truth without your conclusions, which are generally not supported by facts, rather your opinion. We will draw our own conclusions.
I’m sorry Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.
The golden rule of politics is win in November . Beyond that nothing else matters.
The most important part of this article is that President Trump and Sundance believe JD Vance gives us the best shot of winning. That should be our focus.
Somehow the below meme seems relevant to the naysayers, insert billionaires, religion, heritage, college, etc.
I’m facing a long drive to sit by the bedside of my dying mother.
I have downloaded Hillbilly Elegy, I have links to an AI read version of Curtis Yarvin’s work and I just bought Regime Change by another of Vance’s mentors. I hope to gain a better understanding of the thinking of these technocrats. I have a young person close to me that is big on their ideas and I don’t know enough to discuss them intelligently. He is very excited by the Vance pick and he tends to be a pessimist.
Meanwhile, I am trying to do this:
Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.
Though I tend towards the optimistic side often, wanting to believe in the good side of folks like Musk.
Who knows? Have to say, living through a 4th Turning is not for the faint of heart.
You might enjoy this song as you drive. Remembering great times with Mom.
Fields of Gold
I wonder who else Thiel has recuited………
Sundance, is there a “test” we can watch for to determine where JD’s loyalty belongs: America First or Technocracy first?