Not surprisingly, a few people viewed my research presentation of JD Vance through a prism of negativity. [SEE HERE] We have many new readers who are not as in-tune with the details of how the bad parts of the DC surveillance state work. So, let me take you behind the scenes a little and expand for context.
Nothing written about the data set, the facts within the JD Vance storyline, is incorrect. Everything is cited, accurate and factually true. However, when you get into the intent and consequence part, that’s when people start to become emotional. Some clarity is needed.
Commenter Freedom Ring provides a good example. FR says, “JD has an association with Theil [sp?] & Musk; this could be worded to be a positive or negative, but the article paints it as a negative.”
This is correct. The research article positions the relationship between JD Vance and Peter Thiel as a serious challenge, here’s why.
Since his original endorsement of Donald Trump in 2016, a good thing, billionaire tech executive Peter Thiel has expanded his company, Palantir Technology, to be the leading edge of a data-processing system. The Palantir tech is designed to use artificial intelligence (AI) to crawl through massive sets of surveillance data, phone data, facial recognition data, metadata (writ large) etc.
In essence Palantir Tech is receiving government contracts (Defense and Intel) to use the Palantir AI tools to analyze/filter a massive amount of electronic data, and take action based on results from the data, or what might be called SIGNIT (Signals Intelligence). There are billions at stake in this relationship.
In short, Thiel has a vested financial interest in providing AI surveillance filtration tools to the U.S. government.
Ok fine. That’s just a simple acceptance of what Thiel’s company does now. And Thiel recruited JD Vance back in 2012/2013 while at Yale law school, and personally financed JD’s entry into the world of politics in 2020/2021. I won’t repeat all the citations but suffice to say, without Thiel there is no Senator/VP Vance. Thiel leveraged his relationship with Donald Trump to get JD Vance the Ohio primary endorsement in 2022, and the rest is history. Fair enough. Nothing disputed.
Here’s where things get sticky….
Thiel’s company Palantir Tech provides the AI metadata analytic tools used by the U.S. government in their national security efforts. The government access to that metadata comes, in part, as an outcome of the legislative FISA authorization. As a consequence, eliminating, say… FISA(702) surveillance processes, is against the financial interests of Peter Thiel. If the U.S. government cannot access the dataset, the U.S. govt doesn’t need Palantir’s AI filtration tech. That’s just the nature of the relationship.
Again, this is just a cold, factual acceptance of the situation.
Would JD Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?
Again, just a question. Perhaps he would, perhaps not; however, a review of history shows the odds are not in our favor.
I mean, there is a reason why Thiel recruited, financed, supported and guided Vance to the position he is now in, correct?
Elon Musk’s entire business model, sans X (maybe – lol) is contingent upon government contracts and policy.
Regardless of his altruistic disposition, or lack thereof, Musk’s enterprises, Tesla and Space-X, do not exist without direct government funding or indirect govt support via policy. Peter Thiel is essentially in the same position with Palantir Tech, unless the U.S. Government gave him permission to sell his services to foreign adversaries. Not likely.
Many are looking at JD Vance as the guy, maybe one of the ‘guys’, who can finally confront the worst elements of the Deep State. However, the worst elements of the Deep State, the surveillance and control silos, are in a synergistic relationship with Vance’s benefactors. Will Vance willingly tear apart the surveillance state, that will create a negative financial outcome for those who put him into office? My note of caution is ‘don’t get your hopes up.’
I mean, seriously think about it. Musk puts up USG satellites that monitor stuff. The low-earth-orbit monitoring results (data signals) are returned to the USG. The data signals are then analyzed by AI tech created by Thiel.
Another way to look at it…. Musk puts the camera on your face. Thiel tells the govt where you went.
♦ BIG PICTURE – Are the newest group of billionaire Silicon Valley tech leaders currently supporting MAGA Trump/Vance, really a modern assembly of the Green Dragon rebels in Boston, plotting the next Tea Party rebellion. Or are they simply just the other side of a new modern Technocratic control system, aligned with and dependent on government?
The Obama-era ‘Technocracy‘ was based on public-private partnerships with social media. This was the origin of the surveillance state that now scours, controls, filters, censors and ultimately monetizes your social media data profile. The operational and business model is cemented into the process now. Everyone accepts it. Terms and conditions apply, and if you don’t agree, you can’t use.
Is the pending Trump-era ‘Technocracy‘ a rebrand, pushing social media off to the side (that part is done) and bringing data processing control agents, artificial intelligence software designers, big money venture capitalists, banks and those who are creating digital id systems. Does Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg and Vivek Ramaswamy, now occupy the empty chairs around the table of Technocracy?
Was the 5/10-year business model in the mind of tech billionaire Peter Thiel what led him to recruit JD Vance in 2013. Was it a financial decision blended with ideology to guide, finance and support JD Vance all the way to 2022 and 2024? Was JD Vance an investment?
Truly, I suspect our gut knows the answer.
That’s why my approach is to say, “here’s the factual data – trust your instincts.”
[SOURCE]
Around this time someone will snark, saying my assembling this perspective indicates President Trump is an idiot, or something.
NO! President Trump is not stupid, or naïve!
CTH has painstakingly outlined how the silo process within the Deep State works. You have more information about that process. You have more knowledge about that process.
All of us, courtesy of dozens of brilliant researchers here and in lots of other places on the internet, have a far more comprehensive understanding of how the systems within the DC administrative state work than any subset of professional politicians or their staff.
Are you stupid or naïve? No. None of us are.
However, many of us are sick and tired of having the virtue of our patriotism weaponized against us. For reference see DHS, ODNI, CISA, TSA, The Patriot Act, or any other of the myriads of crisis-created legislative solutions, later turned into tools by bad actors that inevitably diminish freedom.
I was sitting at dinner with a good person, who happened to be the head, the tipy-top, of one of the most connected IC silos in Washington DC, and that person laughed recalling situations where they walked into their office many days and frustratingly shouted at their staff, “who the f**k is leaking information to this guy,” meaning me. No one was leaking anything, and the entire organization was just as surprised as the leader of it.
My point is that many ordinary Americans know far more about the interconnectedness of DC silo operations, than the people within the individual silos can fathom. They are stuck inside a purposefully created system of compartmentalization; we are not.
The overwhelming odds are that you know more than your federal representative. That fact doesn’t make you smarter than President Donald J Trump, it just means you have a different set of researched datapoints that create a different understanding.
Additionally, President Trump doesn’t “vett” anyone, someone else does the “vetting” for him. That vetting helps him to make decisions, it doesn’t exclusively determine the final decision.
No one is stupid in this discussion. No one knows all the information. The fact-finding is a process of information assembly, that permits guidance to decision making. That’s it.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) might have been a good decision at the time, until it starts getting weaponized later on.
Given the nature of the political landscape, Senator JD Vance was a good selection for Veep. A candidate for the office of the vice-presidency that will hopefully position President Trump and the people around him to be able to start putting countermeasures into place that will stop this government weaponization, a seemingly out of control surveillance state.
Senator JD Vance helps to unite the various Republican clans.
Perhaps more valuable, his selection reduces the possibility of the Silicon Valley Technocrats to work against OUR interests – as we look to control THEIR influence.
More importantly, Senator JD Vance makes winning in November of 2024 more likely. That’s the key value in his personage.
Perhaps Vance is a tool, perhaps he’s an ally, who knows. However, we must understand the context of everything that comes with him, nothing more.
Trust God, and for everyone else – watch them like a hawk, while you live your best life.
If we win in November, we then have an opportunity to start putting countermeasures and guardrails into place that will seemingly impede the efforts of the bad operators within each IC silo. Simultaneously, we need to identify who each bad actor is.
This mission then becomes the reversal of weaponization we desperately need.
I am optimistic about victory in November. However, I am also comprehensive about the nature of the enemy we face.
I recently suggested, partly tongue in cheek, for congress to enact legislation that simply says:
If any president dies during his term in office, all actionable authorization within agencies of the CIA, FBI, DNI and DHS is immediately revoked, until such a time as new legislative authorities can be debated, assembled and reauthorized by congress.
Daisy… Daisy…
Love to all.
I agree with everything you posted.
I like to keep the balance and not be too black pilled and remember, that sometimes people act against what appears to be their interests. President Trump, case in point. He is a class-traitor. An elite who went against the elites. Fighting for us and this country has cost him tremendously–yet he does it.
Isn’t it possible that Thiel is doing the same thing? I know, don’t bet the farm on it, but it’s interesting to me, that he and Musk had a parting of the ways over the direction of technology, with the rest of Silicon Valley several years ago. And, like Trump, they are rich enough to be able to lose a lot of money without having to clip coupons.
Do a search on Thiel, whose ex-husband and he are reputed to have purchased two children…..
At least that’s what I read here. I haven’t had time to verify this info, so it could be false.
I posted this previously. Its mind boggling to me that someone has 5 billion dollars in a Roth IRA
Peter Thiel grew and shelters 5 billion $ in his Roth IRA account – see link below.
https://equifund.com/blog/peter-thiel-roth-ira/
Hopefully Vance is their barometer so they don’t get in to deep anymore.
Hopefully they looked in the mirror and didn’t like what they saw.
I think it’s much stronger than being a class traitor, though I agree not enough emphasis has been given to that aspect.
Ever since I heard one, and only one interview of him on Howard Stern back looong ago, I stared at the radio and thought to myself, “A ha! I was right!
He is obviously a deep deep deep cover, high level intel asset of the USA.”
He’s already assisted in the take down of the NYC mob and even built that shell company fake casino to entrap others
One night I heard him at a rally explain to the crowd, “You see, I’ve been working my entire life simply to prepare fully for this….”
Yep. Long term fully prepared and experienced White Hat
It runs in families
Love this article.
Saw some online personalities taking umbrage of the fact that Sundance was simply putting out information, and most importantly – asking the right questions while not being afraid to go find the answers.
Who else but Sundance does that? Haven’t found anyone else out there in the forefront.
Personally have learned when having a negative reaction to a post, topic, blog or new information, once getting over the reaction, is the understanding that I have created a false image via a false belief of a person or situation and am always thankful to come to that realization. Think that’s part of what the path is narrow means, being willing to drop our ego-identity to see clearly the way forward.
I tend to look at the all-of-a-sudden embrace by the IT folk of a Trump Presidency as the perfect opportunity for a very stable genius to finally establish the proper balance between the artificial & tech industry – which is here to stay – and its proper place within any governing body, whether local, national or international –
healthful boundaries must be established to balance the God-given rights of the Individual vs the necessities of proper governing requirements to best serve a nation’s citizens.
And I do believe of all the leaders out there in the world today, it will be President Trump who can set the new standard for this invention of mankind before it becomes a devastating weapon against the individual’s right of self-determination. Heck, we are still the only nation on this planet with freedom of speech, so there is a long way to go but a United States of America with a President who actually likes the everyday American is the best chance we have to get ahead of the intrusive nature of artificial intelligence out there.
And only new to listening to the All-In Podcasts, do get the sense that some of these tech venture capitalists also see this need to establish rules of engagement for AI while preserving the individual entrepreneur spirit, whether the individual wants to go into business or be the stay at home mother, and all the options in between. So maybe these are the best of the IT crowd, or at least open to working with a very creative genius who is a builder of beautiful things in his own right.
Thank you for such a thoughtful post.
“I tend to look at the all-of-a-sudden embrace by the IT folk of a Trump Presidency as the perfect opportunity for a very stable genius to finally establish the proper balance between the artificial & tech industry – which is here to stay – and its proper place within any governing body, whether local, national or international”
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That is simply so perceptive and articulate!
👍 👍
Well stated response, Bessie2003.
Just came a cross this lengthy article about Thiel.
I’m halfway through but stopped to leave it here on this thread.
Coincidence?
Hardly.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/
Hi Bets,
Just read entire piece. Very interesting and a LOT to absorb.
The inter-connectedness of so many public figures is intriguing for sure.
In essence, I am just not a fan of all this data gathering on individuals. It does not appear to be targeted at all; just everyone, everywhere under the microscope. To me, pretty creepy.
Sure, it might prove helpful, maybe, in deterring terrorist attacks, but it didn’t stop the Boston Marathon bombing and it sure didn’t seem to serve its purpose a week ago Saturday in Butler, PA. Also, too very many other supposed domestic terrorist attacks to name here, did it stop either.
Color me skeptical about the real purpose, but that’s probably just me!
As always Bets, blessings & hugs!
Pray for J D Vance.
Proverbs 21:1 KJV
The king’s heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it withersoever he will.
“Perhaps more valuable, his selection reduces the possibility of the Silicon Valley Technocrats to work against OUR interests – as we look to control THEIR influence.”
These Technocrats, plus the Mega-Financial types, supporting the Trump/Vance ticket, will make it very, very hard for the Dems to cheat and get away with it. The cheating and the gaslighting will come to an end.
Perhaps some of them have realized they have been working against their own interests.
The core of the Democrat party is now completely a party of hate. They seem to honestly hate productivity and merit based accomplishment.
At best this is an inhuman and artificial outlook and as such doomed to fail.
Cheating and Gaslighting will end when He returns. That will be with us until then, and we must combat it at every occasion and at each point.
Well, Sundance, thanks for the wink wink nod nod.
I’m guessing that isn’t in regard to A Bicycle Built for Two?
That must have been an extremely high powered (cough cough) discussion you had.
Ordering the potassium iodide now.
Nuclear war?
WWIII?
I was startled to listen to a couple minutes of an old interview with Colonel Douglas MacGregor and I froze….. when he said something along the lines of:
“Well! I won’t go into it now because I’ve been telling everyone this for weeks on end now that when war erupts, and it will erupt, that it will be right here on American soil.”
Then he explained that the civilian population is in no way prepared or equipped to deal with an enemy military invasion.
His perception perfectly aligns with my own psychic premonitions about same
Nonetheless, God is in control.
Crazy as it sounds the chances of the crap hitting the fan with America in a Civil War or in a World War III is get ting closer and closer
Nessun Dorma.
Sum of All Fears.
Helloooo Daisy.
Uranium One deal => where did the uranium end up? Maybe Syria? Maybe Israel?
If the SS can’t even get security on a 20 year old hiking a mile with a ladder, a backpack, a rangefinder, and a gun . . .
How impenetrable do you think they’ve made our defenses against a dirty bomb / suitcase nuke / K system firing from a shipping container offthe Port of Long Beach, or the CCP stronghold in Savannah?
How hardened do you think our internal defenses are right now, with the Dems in severe disarray?
False flag?
Where’s that Russian submarine that can produce a nuclear powered tidal wave?
Not gonna go deep into the woo here, but I’m not the only one out there who has had repeated dreams of a 400 foot wall of water coming down over a beach, towering above every building by orders of magnitude (decades before I ever heard of a tidal wave weapon of war).
General Flynn just tweeted out that we are “in uncharted waters” and that the next 3 months are going to be a wild ride, because the Communists are about out of the normal control mechanism options.
This is not a game.
Thank you Alex for such a kind and thoughtful and informative reply.
Yes, I do know here are so many potential possibilities for serious terror attacks. An infinitude
However, Colonel MacGregor was talking …. War HERE, boots on the ground, a massive military invasion resulting in God only knows how many Americans deaths.
Yes, agreed.
The CIA did not pull its foreign fighters from all around the world (largely at taxpayer expense I would imagine) just to have them sit on their hands here.
I just learned we suddenly now have Ukrainians in my neck of the woods.
They would be the first ever, probably, in history for this particular neck of the woods. Following, just very shortly in time, the first Muslims ever seen here.
What are the odds.
My condolences.
Hadn’t heard about this.
“The CIA did not pull its foreign fighters from all around the world (largely at taxpayer expense I would imagine) just to have them sit on their hands here.”
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I was unaware of this
Hope they don’t have the same proclivities in country which gave the CIA its disgusting reputation.
Didn’t PDJT promise that upon Inauguration he’s gonna shut down the CIA?
I learned earlier today that a “fireball” flew over the northeast coast of the U.S. on Tuesday morning.
Maybe everyone here already knows this and it has all been hashed out already.
We had a “fireball” traveling an estimated 38,000 mph go over Connecticut, New York and New Jersey. No one knows when it first entered our orbit or where it went down — if you believe it was a meteor — so it may have crossed many more states. The fireball caused a sonic boom and had windows shaking.
It did not seem to be going downward, as if it had been a meteor coming down to planet earth, but instead traveled across the sky, being filmed in Connecticut and New York.
Did that meteor just skip like a rock over our atmosphere?
Below is a news story about the incident. One of the last things to be mentioned is how NASA said the loud noise and shaking “may have been related to military activity in the area, and not the meteor.”
Oh right, that makes me feel so much better.
We already had TWA 800 innocently fall out of the sky and kill everyone onboard (choke, choke), so hearing military “activity” made me think this fireball was a bomb.
Seems a little sketchy, like someone is preparing for war right here, right now.
Two of their women walked by my house this morning wrapped in what looked like tablecloths. I can only assume they want to be noticed. I thought this place would be safe from this. It is not even near a large city.
This is in a small town of 4,000 people. Who would have ever thought the potted plant would send two busloads of them here of all places. Somalians and Haitians. Why would they even want to come here to a dilapidated town which has nothing to offer. Half the town is boarded up.
The people here can hardly feed themselves let alone the border crossers. They better not cross the majority black (70%) here or the so called civil war just might start in a small town like this.
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I believe that aligns with George Washington’s third vision. Some say the story is fiction but I wonder
“General Flynn just tweeted out that we are “in uncharted waters” and that the next 3 months are going to be a wild ride, because the Communists are about out of the normal control mechanism options.
This is not a game.”
They say knowledge is power many times I feel it is also fear inducing. Today’s sermon at church was about REALLY praying and REALLY trusting in God’s providence. The focus was on Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace. The pastor pointed out that these three young men – and they were very young – had no fear of that furnace. The men who threw them into the furnace died from the intense heat. Yet the providence of the one true God did not allow even the smell of smoke on them. That is the same providence was evident last Saturday evening.
When we pray we ought to believe the God we are praying to. He does not react to events. That bullet did not take Him by surprise. He IS in control. He is ALWAYS in control. So, when I read these things and I grasp the nature of the demons we are up against, I rest in the knowledge that God has decreed. No one. NO ONE can defeat His purposes. Therefore, I can live my best life after all.
Yes, but Noah still had to build the ark.
Sundance has vetted a source, decided the information was valid enough to share with Treepers, and stuck his head up here to publish it for those with Eyes to see.
We know much of this stuff is gamed out on super computers to make predictions about choices and subsequent behaviors.
Sundance just gave us a weather report.
Something along the lines of 80 percent chance of rain.
Choosing not to go buy an umbrella and keep a weather eye out for lighting is not failing to trust in God. We can trust in God and still use our God-given faculties of reasoning to do something about the incoming.
Not fear-mongering. Just a level headed appreciation of being prepared for the very possible.
And thank you Sundance!
I do not disagree with any of that Alex. My point being that knowing the nature of the enemy can be fear inducing. When I start feeling that fear creep in I rest in the confidence that God has decreed. Even I as step out into the storm with my umbrella opened.
Ditto. Thanks Sundance.
Amen to that, Country.
When I was a boy, I dreamed I was on the streets of a gigantic city with buildings that reached to the sky all around me.
I heard people screaming & saw them running frantically. When I turned & looked, I saw a dark wall of water as tall as the buildings, sweeping through, wiping them out. The wall of water was so tall, it block out the sun from that direction. Must have been morning/noon range.
I only mention it, because of something you said in your post.
The reason it has always stood out to me, is because I was just a boy from rural Texas. I’d never been in a big city like that, I’d never seen mountains, & I’d never seen the ocean. Nothing to put such a sight into my young mind. I’m pretty confident, as an adult, it was New York City.
Yeah.
When I was very young, maybe 6, I dreamed of brown skinned people in robes lined up outside of mud / stone houses/ huts. They were being attacked. It was war time.
I got one word: Yemen.
A few years, maybe more than 5 years later I learned there was a country called Yemen, and I was like, “oh, that’s what that was.”
The world is stranger than we think.
I think some events echo.
Call me crazy, whatever.
Does that mean the nuclear bombs tidal wave happens or is it just a possible future we dodge?
Only God knows the answer to that one.
THANK YOU Sundance--As I have said its good to know that I’m not the only one–Almost from the very first day I have had my concerns about. Vance due to some research I did. Yes I do seem to dig too deep. I’ve been, getting bashed from the get go.
Not sure why Trump’s choices but this would not be the first time Trump choices have gone haywire. Remember Pence and then there is Warp Speed which the Globalist used and abused.
Hey Trump is not inflatable or perfect and for that matter no one is perfect except for our one true Lord and Savior. Yet too many seem to think Trump is this perfect infallible man who knows all and can fix all
H3LL, I have been hearing that Trump has it all under control and has his reasons that we will soon know since election night 2020, actually since 2017 when things first started going haywire. Strange but I am still hearing hey Trump has a plan, Trump knows what he is doing and has a reason for it all, that we will soon know. I am really tired of hearing that soon Trump will show all of us his reasons and lift the curtain on the Globalist.
Not sure what is going on but Vance was one thing then Rogers—Trump’s support and pushing of Rogers after he helped Hillary and Obama whitewash Benghazi was the Biggest Shock to me.
FYI–The Only One That Has Any of This Under Control is God, not any human being, even Trump.
As Billy Graham once said “God’s hand never slips. He never makes a mistake. His every move is for our own good and for our ultimate good”. –Key Word Is God Not some Human Being.
As far as all the people saying Trump and his people will keep a finger on Vance and Rogers so not to worry.
As I have said I CANNOT forget that Heaven Forbid if anything happens to Trump from now on, Vance slides in, Who is going to keep a thumb on Vance then?
YES, I will vote for Trump–But I do NOT want to go the polls having to really hold my nose to cast that vote
Well, there maybe … perhaps … will not be an election steal this year which is very surprising
The Big Rich Techies surely knows how to secure it
That has always been at the back of my brain and would say at least daily the thought comes up.
That last IT outage–was that just a test…all those power outages, especially the ones not connected to storms were they just a test too.
If crap hits the fan there just might be a Civil War or Worse yet a WWIII.
Colonial Pipeline was a test too.
Trump knows exactly what he wants to do. Maneuvering the other chess pieces on the board to accomplish his objectives is a constantly changing landscape.
More like quicksand.
“As I have said I CANNOT forget that Heaven Forbid if anything happens to Trump from now on, Vance slides in, Who is going to keep a thumb on Vance then?”
That is the big issue. It isn’t a big jump at all to see that possibility which is why I have said to my friends the VP picks will be crucial. We now know our side got someone who has ties to people we do not trust or like. Right now Harris is being told either she’s the candidate and here’s who her running mate is, or that she’s out and someone else is going to be the candidate. She really has no choices on her own unless she holds a huge amount of blackmail material that she can use even if they take her out physically.
God is indeed in charge but we must be the soldiers on the ground and be the watchers for Him here on earth. Be aware, even more than usual. This week will be another series of moves on the political chessboard by both sides.
QUOTE:
”I was sitting at dinner with a good person, who happened to be the head, the tipy-top, of one of the most connected IC silos in Washington DC, and that person laughed recalling situations where they walked into their office many days and frustratingly shouted at their staff, “who the f**k is leaking information to this guy,” meaning me.
No one was leaking anything…”
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As hard to believe as this is, if true I find this gravely disappointing, given the importance and value I (and inarguably others FAR MORE important than I) place upon this forum.
Anyone who is anyone in DC (good or bad) would be a regular reader of this blog, and it is disappointing that the good would not be doing their best in attempting to aid Sundance in his efforts.
Assuming the statement made is true, of course.
As a matter of course, I cannot understand why it was made at all.
No one was leaking anything to Sundance. Only Sundance would know the truth of that particular statement.
That doesn’t mean no one was leaking elsewhere.
….”Anyone who is anyone in DC (good or bad) would be a regular reader of this blog, and it is disappointing that the good would not be doing their best in attempting to aid Sundance in his efforts.”…
They do read this blog. But they read it for their own research, to discover things they do not know.
CTH is a source for cross-silo discussion.
Warmest best,
SD
Have noticed The Last Refugee mentioned many places TV, Internet and other media
Seen it used as backup even by some Very noted people and elites
Love your reply. I fully accept that statement is made based on personal concrete experience beyond your already-astute intuition.
Sir-
Thank you for the courtesy of a reply. It is sincerely appreciated.
I do have one other question, if I may:
In previous posts related to JD Vance you have suggested that the IC might “accept the inevitable” (I paraphrase) and would go dormant for a time, waiting out a Trump administration. But that begs the question…
If JD Vance is a worst case scenario (a pawn of the Sea Island vulture capitalists <and presumably the IC as well>), what makes you think that the IC wouldn’t attempt to eliminate Trump and elevate Vance before Trump leaves office, rather than “go dormant” until after Trump leaves office??
Deepest appreciation for the sunlight you shine on everything,
GL
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My question and concern as well
Leaks?
ONLY six degrees of separation links everybody in this country
You never know who knows who, or who were their parents’ friends that they knew in childhood
At least one percent of the civilian population, by now, fully knows what’s truly happening
At least another twenty percent have trusted contacts who can enlighten them.
And too, again, there is so much info online that accusing anyone of leaking anything is really archaic in this day and age
I would only add a lot of people, both before and after PDJT’s announcement of Vance as his V.P. have been viewing such an announcement as PDJT crowning his successor as the leader of the MAGA movement, and the likely Republucan (MAGA) Presidential nominee in 2028.
I don’t see it that way; first off, if Vance is Pence 2.0 as some suspect, like Pence he will reveal himself, and being far more atuned we will spot it early on.
Second, being VP didn’t help Nixon (as Ikes VP) or Humphrey as Johnsons.
In terms of the history of our movenent, I think Goldwater/Reagan may be a closer analogy; 20 years seperated their Presidential runs, and yet there is no question Goldwaters run also initiated Reagans entry into politics.
So, I see a # of people that may well eventually inherit the mantle of leadership of MAGA, and frankly I doubt J.D. will be “it”.
Speaking of Goldwater . . .
I will be satisfied if the presence of JD and Usha Vance result in young people getting enthusiastic and hands on involved in politics.
Our youth ……..
It certainly provides Vance with some advantages.
However, my thinking leans toward yours when fast forwarding.
The whole purpose (well, an important part of it) of MAGA is to restore the power of the vote – accountability. Vance’s future will be defined by his actions. And, as you project, I am confident there will be some competition.
Actually, Nixon won the 1960 election, except for the part where the democrats stole the election. True story. Nixon refused to pursue the matter.
So, stealing elections has been tried and true for decades, maybe hundreds of years.
Yes they stole it.
Nixon declined to pursue it because he thought it would be bad for the country. 64 years ago I might have agreed; after the last decade I have wondered whether it would have been better to rip the bandaid off all those years ago.
And knowing that he wanted it so bad, felt cheated after 1960, they catered to his ego making him president in 1968, got him to establish the Dept of Indoctrination (Education), abandon the Gold Standard, abandon Taiwan opening up Communist China…and then kicked him to the curb when his useful idiot vainglory had finished serving their purposes. Lord, we pray that’s not what is being done to Trump.
“So, I see a # of people that may well eventually inherit the mantle of leadership of MAGA, and frankly I doubt J.D. will be “it”.”
Except, Vance will have the technology to ensure it happens. Who controls the voting machines, controls the world. Who controls the media, controls the minds. Who controls the food, controls the population, and this is why ONLY the self sufficient will survive.
Vance is all about Penn.
I bought Hillbilly Elegy years ago at an airport bookstore so as to have something to read on a long flight. I found it distastefully self serving and suggestive of a limited personality. Didn’t finish it. I wonder if he could be easily influenced.
Well golly, that “limited personality” overcame childhood poverty and abuse, spent time in the military, has a law degree, owns a capital fund, has written a bestseller which has gone on to become a movie, was elected a Senator, and now nominated as Republican VP.
Gosh, I would love to have a “limited personality!”
Smart kids growing up in distressed circumstances sometimes become overachieving people pleasers. Could make a good “number one” (VEEP) if he sticks to pleasing the right person. He has had a leg up in all of his post USMC activities. (No one gets a leg up in the Corps) (You can not please the DI.) Lets just hope he still believes “Once a Marine…”, and the oath that he took.
“He has had a leg up in all of his post USMC activities.”
CIA Careers
The Undergraduate Scholarship Program is a financial needs-based initiative where you will be exposed to intelligence challenges while performing meaningful work that relates to your college major.
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Aside from the implication that he’s Thiel’s puppet, my biggest issue with Vance is that he stereotyped the good people of Appalachia based on his outsider limited point of view. Who else is he going to throw under the bus to make himself look good? Eastern Kentuckians are partial to Trump, but they also like their governor. If it looks like he’ll have a place in a future administration, I won’t be surprised if many vote blue since Trump aligned with Vance.
I think Ky just like WV is off the Democrat plantation. I don’t think Beshear has the appeal of Trump, other than the normal blue areas of the state. Beshear was like the governor of NY, he was on tv every day during covid, but thats been forgotten. He had harsh stuff with covid. It will be the PA Shapiro guy. Trump needed Youngkin to overcome that, he already had Ohio in the bag, and I’m not sold on Vance being able to pull in those rust belt states with his story. His story is not a story of coal miners who’ve busted their butts for years only to have the likes of Obama destroy the coal industry overnight.
Time will tell, but I’ve had a knot in my stomach with Bidens withdrawal. I was hoping he would fight them and hang on. It’s all unknowing now, who the hell do you campaign against when you don’t know who they’ll pick.
Looking at photos of ‘aka Vance’ over the years it is clear to me he is highly impressionable. He will adopt new philosophies at the drop of a hat.
Please advise as to what you see in Vance’s photos that would suggest he is highly impressionable.
Have you met and know Vance that you can say he will adopt new philosophies at the drop of a hat?
And yet, Peter Theil was instrumental in Trump’s first term…….
No he wasn’t. lolol
Thank God.
He so totally creeped me out big time back in the early 90s that I have avoided learning anything whatsoever about him.
And I do mean intense CRINGE
Fortunately I only rarely encounter anyone who raises such alarm bells screeching at such high decibels
I had NO idea that some people believe that PDJT and Peter Thiel are friends.
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Ugh 😩
Ugh.
Thiel donated to Trump in 2016 but did nothing to help President Trump battle the tech war against him. Thiel did not endorse or donate to Trump in 2020 because he knew something – that Trump would “lose”. How dd he know? My guess – his Tech industry ‘buddies’ and Palantir.
I seem to remember he maybe donated some $ but so much happened in 4 years, the chaos caused by the media and the hating Democrats, I simply don’t remember.
Wow, just wow. Such a great article. It builds on The Mirror and in a precise and measured way helps us think through what we know about Thiel and Musk, and what we know and don’t know about J D Vance.
Thank you Sundance for all the research and thinking that went into this post.
Would like to suggest a Part 3 article titled, ‘Black Mirror.’
The robot dog episode was out of this world great.
♪♫Dai-sy, dai-sy, give me your answer true.
I’m half cra-zy, o-ver the love of you.
It won’t be a sty-lish mar-riage, I can’t a-fford a car-riage—.
But you’ll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle – built – for – two.♪♫
So now we have some inflection points to watch for . J.D. , J.D., we’ll just have to see♫♪
Wrong reference.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=goldwater+daisy+commercial&t=samsung&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DriDypP1KfOU
Boom
Filling in for Wordman, Maquis?
🙂
Thank you. I remember 1964 , sometimes vividly.
That ad was. Absolutely formidable
I haven’t thought of it many decades
Formidable?
That ad was hyperbole and fearmongering of the highest order…but that’s just my opinion.
Sorry, was only one years old at that time
I also disagree with your statement
TBH, I like Vance, even though I agree it’s hard to expect someone to work against their own interests.
I keep hoping some of these people will realize that it actually is to their best interest, and their children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors and countrymen, that this many-headed hydra be tamed.
We all know what will be the eventual result if we’re never able to legitimately vote people into high office who are willing and capable of actually representing us and taming the beast. All hell is going to break loose someday if we’re not to live as a nation of “Winstons.”
His wife was a lobbyist in congress for a long time before Vance ran for the Senate race.
Just too Manchurian for me.
Potentially!
Hopeful as ever that it is a clear case of “Infiltration works both ways”
I’m interested in reading more about this. Could you provide links please?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usha_Vance
Nothing about Usha being a lobbyist in this link.
A lobbyist?
For whom did she lobby, and what were her specialities?
Was this the work she actually did while employed at prestigious law firms?
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You can start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usha_Vance
Thank you very much.
It’s been a long day after only couple hours sleep…..
I wouldn’t have thought of that until sometime tomorrow 😉
Hey there Ms. Biddie – yes, get some sleep.
Health is most important.
This stuff can wait.
Nothing here about Usha being a lobbyist.
Like I stated. – it’s a starting place to research her. Take key info from there and expand your search. There’s rarely ONE website that has everything there is to know about her.
Research takes time and many searches.
At her Wikipedia page it states that among her clients were the University of California Regents and Disneyland.
She loves to read!
Both of her parents are brilliant just like their daughter
Also…
“She has served on the board of the Gates Cambridge Alumni Association.”
Yes…
That Gates
FYI: A Gates Cambridge Scholarship is very difficult to receive as it is highly competitive. Only 1.3% of applicants have received this award in recent years.
Usha Vance applied and received hers in 2010. She is brilliant, holding a degree in law, a degree in history and a masters in philosophy.
Being on the board of the the gates Cambridge alumni association is a nothingburger considering she was an award recipient
obvious to me she is the handler. He looks at her for confirmation on every little laugh. I’ve had words here but I have extreme gut dislike of the guy. If President Trump can use him to get elected, well glory be, but he used Pence and look where that got him. I’m not shy about saying it either lol
Once a marine always a marine
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Perhaps, and this is really stretching it. …. but maybe the Vances realize they have more than enough money to last their entire lifetimes luxury.
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Maybe he isn’t as materialistic as the folks he’s been hanging out with
One can hope it’s an example of “Infiltration works both ways”
That so many of the right people are enraged that he is VP pick leads me to believe that PDJT is playing poker with a handful of Aces……
That is one of the things that bugs me, I know lots of Marines out of Corp and they still have a Marine air or some little something that you can tell they are a Marine. JD doesn’t have that.
Maybe he attended someone else’s camp? Has anyone seen an interview of any of his old Corp buddies? I would think this might be of some interest to young journos seeking insight on a future world leader.
He definitely does not give off the vibe of a Marine. His vibe for me is extremely off putting. I can’t stand him but if he help the President it’s fine and dandy. I don’t have to be a fan of his lol
I have to admit that I don’t “like the look of him” (JDV).
Dunno why – just a ‘gut feeling’.
Or perhaps the feeling that when he speaks he is insincere?
And that is from way down here in the land of Oz.
Sorry if I’ve offended anyone.
Sundance, thank you for connecting the microdots.
I will be more concerned about Palantir and Vance if Trump does not advance the demise of 702.
Seems to me …if you have connections at the “tippy top” Then I hope you could somehow get your concerns to someone close to PT. I have always felt that PT has been in the dark about many things…thus he had those “head scratching” decisions we all witnessed.
Lack of information , especially at that level , is unfathomable…. PT does not do …internet……
As far as readers having negative reactions about your revelation of the negative facts/ thoughts on Vance and his connections….JMO…I guess it boils down to….. some would rather trend towards a “benefit of the doubt”outlook. Would rather take into consideration Vance’s actions / stance while in the Senate. Some readers would rather consider the facts of his life experience, service to the country, his upbringing and Family loyalty. That the reality in politics is that it takes lots of money to enter and win.
Was Thiel the worst vehicle to obtain a money source….who knows. Trump sure didn’t turn down Thiels help…neither did Kris Kobach, Harriet Hageman, and many others.
Who can we place our trust in/ hope? Maybe no one, but is that moving forward? Facts/truths should always be revealed. So (Thank You) for that.
Again wish you had a pipeline to PT. He would only (benefit) from an outside source who reveals facts and sheds light on truth.
It reminds me of the (hard to process) issue of COVID vaccines and PT’s involvement and his stance on this. I feel, PT’s had sound reasoning for pushing through a vaccine ASAP. But it was weaponized against him and the people. He did not foresee how some would use/control Warp speed for evil.
Thiel, Musk, may feel their programs would be of course, #1 profitable, but necessary. Programs that would be used for national security purposes. But Yet again, may be used by tyrannical forces in our captured government for evil purpose.
Of course Vance may be used as a tool to promote/protect Thiels business. But if Vance has knowledge that it is not beneficial but is actually being used as a weapon against the people …Vance has a decision to make. We shall see where his loyalty lies. Hope you are wrong on this Sundance…but I bet you are too.
I too hope Sundance, i and many others are wrong.
However if not CRAP–Especially if Heaven forbid that if Trump for any reason cannot & does not finish his 2025-2028 presidential term then Vance slides in.
i wonder if president trump will use elon musk to implement the iron dome?
musk loves putting things in space.
just curious.
When did President Trump first mention Iron Dome. I know Musk just recently endorsed, but I think I heard President Trump mention it before. He did praise Musk mightily last nite though.
We’re in The Truman Show, we know it, we know some of the people who run it, but we haven’t figured out how to get out and shut down the filming of what appears to be our whole world.
Ain’t it the Truth!!! 😉
Very good outline from our host, who is quite charitable about the hundreds of Vance apologists who suddenly showed up in here last week. I wonder how many new unique IP’s are on the log? I say 200 minimum. To them I’d say, we see through your boy Vance, and the 4-year locked closet awaits.
A fair summation!
Let Vance prove his identity under fire.
Until then:
“Give him a living, never discuss family business with him” – Godfather Vito
On the other hand, it may also be those who have invested themselves emotionally in Vance’s story, and view/misinterpret any exposure of facts as a direct assault…
oh they already have …..big time lol.
The tragedy is that Trump could not find any MAGA-like candidates anywhere in the country to be VP.
There are none, at least any that could carry the mantle. Everyone but Trump is a pretender or an apprentice.
He had several to choose from actually. Byron Donalds is more MAGA than anyone on the top 4. He had a story for black people AND young people. Alas, it was not to be
The only person I trust to continue the MAGA mantle is Kari Lake.
A frekin men. I got flamed last night for daring to question just WHO this Vance guy was. His story follows so much like Obummer that it is scary as hell. I don’t wanna get scorched by VANCE and CO. I donned my flame proof suit here and I’m fine. Gotta say, I’m worried as all get out. President Trump is supposed to be getting Intelligence briefings NOW…..will JD be in on those. How does he do his Senate work now? Who does his Senate work? Isn’t a budget supposed to be coming up? MOST worrysome is who will RhinoDewine appoint…..if and a big IF he is the VP
I was just watching Rumble.
The speaker had this to say about technocracy:
Well, you have to face the fact that it is what it is….
And it will not cease.
I would rather those who operate it at least pretended to support our wishes.
Meaning… you have to be part of the game.
If you abstain, you have conceded.
looks like trump is using vance to cut some lifelines to the dems.
4trs ago i never thought i’d see the owner of twitter…who helped cheat for the dems…sell to a guy who would then support trump and donate tons of money…..while the owner of facebook…who cheated for the dems…would stay out of endorsing anyone in ’24 while calling my president an american badass.
its awesome having a president who will make deals FOR america…not against.
In the first part of the article I thought to myself… THIS is why I keep visiting the treehouse. No pretending. Facts on the table.
Then later in the article I thought to myself … this is why I don’t hang around much when I do visit. Pretending again. In this case, pretending that a bunch of rag-tag misfits can somehow wrangle the yuge technocratic beast by letting him in the house… Because Trump. Aargh.
MAGA (the political side) dies on the vine after Trump leaves.
This Musk/Trump connection is becoming more interesting by the day. Both Musk and Vance had either zero or bad connections with their fathers. Is Trump stepping into that void for both of them?
If I had to bet who’ll have the more enduring and profound impact on Vance’s heart, mind and soul, I’ll chose Donald Trump over Peter Thiel any day.
An astute comment, my friend. Yes, let’s watch for this.
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Alex Soros via X
His engagement to Hillary’s #1, Huma Abedin leads one to believe Hillary is on the table for VP
Trump was ridiculed by the media earlier this month when a hidden video camera captured him saying he beat Biden so badly in the debate that Kamala Harris would be replacing him.
Today, that became a reality.
“How did I do with the debate the other night? Kicked that all-broken-down pile of cr*p. He just quit.”
“I got him outta the race. That means we have Kamala… She’s so bad.”
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1815099364613972036
Lets hope Mr President Trump has some zingers for their debate. Some zingers on REAL policy differences and what Kamala and Joe did to the country.
If you have any spider senses at all, they should all be tingling with JD Vance.
Everyone who attends a Trump rally should be made aware of The Conservative Tree House and ALL of Sundance’s articles.
It’s so important.
It would be great if Trump himself could give a shout-out about this.
I will say it again, the fact that everyone here is anti-Vance, tells me Trump made the right choice.
President Trump is good friends with all the names Sundance has quoted. I am sure Trump knows about their businesses and their government connections.
Trump does not live in a vacuum, nor is he stupid, especially where it concerns economics and finance.
Who knows, maybe Trump is going to fight fire with fire and work with Silicon Valley tech companies like Palantir, to use their technical expertise for his own purposes while President. Maybe Vance’s connections to Silicon Valley is one of the reasons Trump chose him.
The Democrats had Silicon Valley in their back pocket for many years, why can’t President Trump do the same?
There is a huge smearing of Vance going on here, and indirectly, President Trump for choosing Vance as his VP.
Vance has been the VP nomination for but a few days, and he has been nothing but chewed upon here. Sad to see.
The key to Trump is the silo concept. He is in one cosmic-sized silo.
Like I said George Washington wasn’t available so there was no way to satisfy most of the CTH crowd!
What? You mean that guy who chopped down a tree? Never trust a tree-chopper!
because having Silicon Valley on your side NEVER helps the core #MAGA folks. They are out for the rich and themselves. My brother always equates the Republicans with “The Rich”….the Dems with “the poor”. Getting rich people on your side can be seen as giving in, we’ll see. Is Vance bought? He climbed the ladder with the help of very very very rich people. He didn’t have much time to do their bidding before he got the VP gig. Is Vance bought? We are not rich people, we don’t have time to fiddle with the rich getting rich, the poor getting poorer.
Sparky I have noticed you jump on anyone who makes what you deem “negative” commentary about JD. We get it. You are very defensive of him. You continue to say people are “smearing” him…Did you read SD’s words above? We don’t pretend in the Treehouse. Some things are ugly but we dont’ pretend and we see them as they are, not as we wish they would be….SD work is all referenced and factually based not on emotion rather on research.
Trump knows Vance is a bought off stooge, lad. But having these oligarchs kill off Biden and kill off Zuckerberg’s vote steal is worth locking the bought off stooge in a closet for 4 years.
Railer, I like the way you’re thinking and I hope you’re right.
I feel lately that truly- we’ve got all the power of a flea..
We’re going into this techy wonderland that most of us don’t even want or understand whether we like it or not.
In business, it makes sense to simply go after the largest piece of the pie.
We’re the largest piece of the pie.
We’re the normal ones.
We’re the good ones..
We’re the smart ones..
We’re the law and order ones..
We ain’t the riff raff.
We’re the armed ones..
And we’re with Trump.
I don’t think that these techies give a shit which side they work for- they just aim please the winners- the ones that are in control–and they see this as being us.
It’s as simple as not biting the hand that feeds ya.
I’m not happy about any of this- as a person content to have remained in the 70s just fine.
I prefer simplicity, good music and books.
BUT this all seems to the the reality of the situation.
They [ Thiel et al ] like Vance because they figured we’d like Vance.. so they bought Vance for us and shined him up to look good and win the job.
So if it’s inevitable that we’re forced to go there- off into this modern new world of AI and robots replacing us- it may as well be our side pretending to control The Blob.
This is how I have it all figured out.. at least for today.
Indeed we are weak. Where would we be without Trump, a class-traitor with numerous shady connections? Where would we be without a Musk-owned twitter? They both have utilized loopholes and funding sources that probably shouldn’t be there but if they didn’t someone else surely would.
We the people have always been at the mercy of “Noblesse oblige”
Only Jacobins and Bolsheviks believe otherwise and we know how that ends up.
AGI is coming someday whether we like it or not, I do hope the “good guys” are in charge when it arrives.
I’m concerned about the JD Vance>Vivek Ramaswamy>Hindu/India connections. Both men come from Ohio & went to Yale where they were close friends. JD married a Hindu woman and named one of his children after Vivek. Neither Vivek nor Usha Vance’s parents have become naturalized US citizens. Their parents are still considered to be immigrants, a fact which makes Vivek and Usha proud. Vivek once ran for US president even though he knew he did not qualify as a NBC (Natural Born Citizen= born on US soil to 2 US citizen parents). Vivek was backed by the brother of George Soros and had the backing of the WEF (World Economic Forum) until Vivek decided their awards made him look bad and he sued WEF to make them stop. There’s also Vivek’s attempts to capitalize off the vaccines.
Since the Trump/Vance team has risen to power, Vivek had made it known that he would accept a Cabinet position or as a US Senator. Technically, this would be fine since NBC is not required. But, I worry that people will forget he’s not NBC and allow him to later take a post like Speaker of the House from whence he can ascend to the Presidency.
I didn’t like the way the RNC was so multi-culti with prayers given in foreign languages to false gods.
Okay, so who weren’t you concerned about?
The list is pretty short, No!
Yes. I wasn’t concerned about Dr. Ben Carson or Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Interesting that Democrat Kamala Harris is of Indian and Jamaican heritage. I don’t believe either of her parents were naturalized citizens at the time of her birth in California. Therefore, she’s not a Natural Born Citizen. Therefore, she’s not constitutionally eligible to become POTUS. Not that anybody besides me cares.
Like Vivek, Democrat presidential contender, Kamala Harris, also has that connection to Alex Soros who just wed Huma Abedin with Clinton connections.
I think JD Vance represents a passing of the torch to the younger generation. President Trump knows this. Nothing can stop the encroachment of the digital age. President Trump might be able to slow it down or attempt to guide it during his presumed tenure, but it cannot be stopped. We now have three generations of young Americans who grew up digitally.
President Trump said he only needed one year in office to reset everything to serve the American people. Who is to say he will complete four years of presidency? Maybe he does not plan on that as he will be 82 in 2028.
The MAGA era will end with President Trumps presidency. His type of man can never be replaced except with long duration, and by the next time, it would be too late if we need that type of man again. He can set in motion the guiding principles called America First for the next President to follow, but there are no guarantees.
After President Reagan, I am grateful that I got to witness an even greater President.
One of your best, view from 30,000 feet, messages, Sundance. Succinct, balanced, informative, calming.
People like Thiel and Musk could be Green Dragon Inn worthy humanitarians who repented when they realized how their technology and gov’t contracts were going to be used to kill and enslave, and are working from the inside to expose or wrest control from Big Brother.
Or, they could simply be pragmatic survivors who realized that they, too, are on the menu–that once they build the digital concentration camp that the gov’t wants, they then become disposable, and their businesses would be commandeered by federal agencies via emergency authorization.
It seems more likely now that the dark powers that be, when the assassination attempt failed, had no recourse but to switch horses and see how much more of their agenda they could get done under a second Trump administration.
It’s an uncomfortable fact that they did get their pandemic and global financial redistribution under Trump 1, along with changes to gov’t accounting (FASB 56) that released everyone in gov’t from any fiscal accountability. Hopefully, Trump is not just representing the Bilderburg interests in the great reset, and learned some things that would make a 2nd Administration far more effective, and less susceptible to Washington manipulation.
And, of course, it’s always possible that they still plan to take Trump out, that JD Vance is JD Pence, and is the conspiratorial leadership they want in the White House anyway.
I keep a broad spectrum of possible narratives going all the time. New data and new developments move some narratives to the top or bottom, but there’s almost always a half dozen which remain “believable” regardless of changes.
And THAT is why the best things we can do are entrust our decisions and loved ones to God, and live our best life.
“People like Thiel and Musk could be Green Dragon Inn worthy humanitarians who repented when they realized how their technology and gov’t contracts were going to be used to kill and enslave, and are working from the inside to expose or wrest control from Big Brother.”
I wish this were true. But for people who believe the Scripture, we know that without Christ, their hearts, words and actions are wicked. Their goal is not to expose Big Brother, but to be the head of Big Brother.
I often think that Sundance deeply understands that they are all wicked; his gift is explaining how they are wicked. The one blind spot he exhibits is his understanding of President Trump, or at least it seems so by what he writes.
The one thing that the whole Biden affair has proven is that the Democrat party is not monolithic. It really is like a bunch of mafia families. The Republicans are the same. Someone doesn’t become the presidential nominee without being willing to do the bidding of the family that supports them. Not even my favorite president, Donald J. Trump. He has chosen his family, and they are the technocrats who will lead us farther into a surveillance state.
Trump once proposed “Freedom Cities,” which are the patriot version of 15 minutes cities. His plan to remove the illegal immigrants will by necessity force us to give up more freedoms, probably through a national ID, both real and virtual. I don’t know how far he will take us into their technocratic nirvana, but he will be used just as the previous presidents have been. Just like he was used to get the vaccine rolled out. Just like he will first bring peace to the world and then be forced into another war, after patriotism has returned to this great land through his election.
I take no pleasure in saying this, and I know I’ll be kicked up and down the comments, but I don’t want any of us to live with false hope. I love President Trump. I highly esteem Melania. She is the loveliest first lady of my lifetime. But they are in a different world from most of us, and the rules there are entirely different. They are being swept along by world events, just as we are.
But be of good cheer! For over all of them is one who rules with an iron rod. He will scatter the wicked and gather his people home. Now there is something to hope for!
nailed it with this: It seems more likely now that the dark powers that be, when the assassination attempt failed, had no recourse but to switch horses and see how much more of their agenda they could get done under a second Trump administration.
Sundance, I’m halfway through the article and I have to say, this is one of the best pieces I’ve ever read here! Your insights are incredibly sharp and thought-provoking. Your ability to connect the dots and present a clear, factual perspective is truly impressive. Keep up the fantastic work!
All facts matter. Then weigh your options. 👍🏻🙏
It’s important to remember how important ideology is to these guys. On the idiot left side, they sacrifice everything to promote their communist DEI ideology.
Their billionaires spend their billions to promote the unplugging of the modern world in favor of windmills.
Our mainstream (Democrat controlled) press overtly lies about everything, sacrificing any pretense to doing real news reporting.
These things are not in their selfish interests. They aren’t about money. It’s because they have perverted ideological views.
Conservatives are similar in that we too will sacrifice everything to promote what we understand to be right in the world. The differences that our ideological views are not perverted. They are correct.
Peter Thiel is a good example of this. His first successful enterprise was the Stanford Review, where I was probably the longest running active participant.
The entire purpose was ideological, To provide an outlet for conservative/libertarian muckraking and opinion on a campus where most of the students were not very ideological but all of the other campus outlets and organizations were far left.
Thiel brought that conservative/libertarian character to his subsequent enterprises, largely by bringing in the people he had brought together at the Stanford Review.
After he had made his PayPal fortune and had moved mostly into venture capitalism, there was a revealing time where a substantial chunk of the venture capital money was lost and Thiel was under a lot of pressure within company to change direction and focus less on the future he wanted to help create and more on traditional investment metrics.
He said no. I’m paraphrasing here, but it was something like: “We’re not going to stop betting on the future.”
So I wouldn’t worry that much about his financial interests. He has always had bigger things in mind.
My take: The only thing billionaires want is more money and power. They like being top of the heap, are cut throat competitive and want to stay on top at all costs. Like sharks in the water, they circle each other and strike a blow to be the top dog when they get the chance. Ideologies might seem important to them, but the real challenge and desire is to be the richest guy in the world. They live in a different world than we do. PTrump knows this and knows them, as he is one of them as far as the financial requirements anyway.. I think he can navigate himself though them and with the ones he thinks can help his American agenda. We shall see which of the rich guys ends up winning the prize.
Just how I see them from my lowly middle class neighborhood which is fast disappearing because of their billionaire wars.
Paypal succeeded because Billpoint failed to cancel them off their platform.
After feebay purchased it, more fees, less service.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/billpoint-failure-a-lesson-for-ebay/
CEO went on to Romney campaign 2008/2012. Clinton/Biden 2016/2020.
Now ambassador to Kenya.
https://x.com/USAmbKenya/status/1555786936228405248
I don’t trust any politician who has changed their name multiple times and someone should ask DJ why he has done so.
Heads up Sundance.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/07/21/robert_f_kennedy_jr_trump_picking_jd_vance_is_a_salute_to_the_cia_that_their_gravy_train_is_going_to_continue.html
Sharks in the water, and no wonder your menu selections were briefly improved.
Nothing said in these discussions was untoward or incorrect, but 10, 9 8 7 , . . . .
To Jr starting to borrow and distort what has been laid out here.
RFK2’s wife is wink that the CIA and MIC’s gravy train continues, as well!
True.
The pot is suddenly calling the kettle black?
The smoke is getting really thick.
My concern was more that a less subtle form of the 5th gen warfare than usual is about to strike the Treehouse. Eyes on.
When Cynius Publius or whatever the heck that Twitter handle is began to go directly after Sundance . . . the winds definitely kicked up.
Must be those flapping wings.
I’d like to see a link to that tweet…
“There is a new generation of Kennedys interested in politics, including one of my sons. It’s like a family business. I hope to see another Kennedy in the White House. Our name has been a blessing for every one of our family.”
–Bobby Jr, Nov. 9th, 2012
Bribem Back Better
just gotta say, no negativity on my part regarding your analysis of JDV…spot on in my opinion…
Obama and Nancy Pelosi are back channeling party leaders and elites that Kamala can not be allowed to be the candidate because she will be a drag on the down ballot candidates.
While Sundance goes into all sorts of details, I have simply listened carefully to what JD Vance himself has been saying and explaining recently. He not only reveals ignorance in some of his non-political statements but does not seem to notice that the Republican Party is not a party of patriotic, principled and purposeful politicians. Too many Republican politicians, especially in the senate, are not very different from their Democrat colleagues. This needs to be addressed with the greatest urgency before the elections. I do not think that many patriotic Americans want more of the same that has plagued the Republican Party for the past 25 years and more. Voters need to hold the feet of their representatives to the fire from day one to make sure they serve their communities with hard work.
MAGA can own tech too
MAGA can provide (sell) products and service to the US government
There is always a possibility……..of whatever
however, we are educated thanks to Sundance
and I prefer to take a wait and see attitude
although it appears to be the case with our current
government and big corp, not everyone is
a traitor to the constitution and the American people.
Hey wait!
If this is the game, I WANT A PLAYER ON THE BOARD.
“Perhaps Vance is a tool, perhaps he’s an ally, who knows.”
Embrace the power of “and.”
I’ve heard it said that they enacted the Patriot Act under a Republican president so that way the people most resistant would accept it.
Not this time.
Ursula sits there with a smirk on her face just like Mayorkas and Wray;
Good for her. Tell them right to their faces that we know the destruction they have and are causing. Keep doing this and the people being harmed will find their leaders. Great and courageous woman speaking truth to the enemy.
An interesting side note…
FISA reform bill
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1182/vote_118_2_00150.htm
Not voting -6
Vance (R – OH)
…being one of the 6
I asked earlier did he just not show up to vote or what. There we have the answer. Thank you.
“Would JD Vance support the elimination of FISA(702), FISA Courts, or the National Security Division of the DOJ (something that forms the foundation of removing the worst elements of the Deep State), knowing that action would be adverse to the interests of his benefactor and mentor, Peter Thiel?
Again, just a question. Perhaps he would, perhaps not; however, a review of history shows the odds are not in our favor.”
Thank you for the history review.
Sing it, Brother!
Daisy Daisy, indeed. The modern Luddites who want to burn down the Deep State are just plain crackpots. You can’t run a starship with a computer reduced to singing simple songs, and you can’t run a 21st Century economy and country with a bunch of guys with green eye shades and adding machines. Bring in guys who maybe disagreed with you, get them using their tech talents in pursuit of Main Street-driven domestic policies, economic drivers of America-first foreign policies, and make them sort responses in accordance with those parameters, and at some point they will automatically get their minds right.
Don’t burn it down. Hijack it.
Trump 2024
you can’t hijack the enemy … they just found an easy open door perhaps. Sorta like the shooter and the SS ….an easy open door. God Help Us
The enemy is not the structure. The enemy is the people IN the structure. Get rid of them, and put our own in.
New York Times Board Wants Kamala Harris Out of the Race…
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/07/21/new-york-times-board-wants-kamala-harris-out-race/
I guess we’ll find out whether their opinion of their power matches the reality.
Senator JD Vance makes winning in November of “2024 more likely. That’s the key value in his personage”
For sure it will make cheating much harder…
explain how? The Democrats have the ballot harvesting organization down PAT and SEALED. They have ballots going out to EVERY nursing home in the country, every assisted living, every address used for an illegal who stepped over the border. They have a team who is collecting those ballots and completing them. Ask workers AND patients families in the nursing homes. I don’t see how Elon Musk or Peter Thiel have any way to stop what the Dems PERFECTED during Covid especially and over the years.
I hope it’s true they can
Odd that Maricopa Arizona had an election the other day when the Crowdstrike went down and they had to STOP the election. So much for the internet not being at play
What if the oligarchs picked Vannce because they know Trump won’t survive?
right over the target
Controlling POTUS 101:
If the President is not bought, it is imperative the Vice President be.
Jewish Palantir CEO Alex Karp claims their AI technology has stopped multiple major terror attacks across Europe
He claims without this technology, every European nation would elect a far-right government, implicitly admitting that migrants are trying to kill Europeans
A United States and Europe run by third-world immigrants must not look very enticing to them after all!
I believe just the reverse. They’re making money off terror events. And they probably prefer complacent happy 3rd world refugees than educated cynical Westerners.
What about the educated cynical Westerners that generate the economic activity needed to fund all their happy refugees and terror events?
Too much of a risk. The educated might figure out what’s really going on
Plain talk.
Makes one wonder 🤔 if there’s BIG MONEY big money to be made in enabling and funding terrorism.
So they manage the lifecycle of terrorism so that it never reaches a natural trigger point where citizens actually do something about the source of the problem, ie the replacement invasion.
Palantir is managing the security of the replacement invasion and keeping it below the threshold where Farage or Le Pen or AfD actually resolve the actual issue, the replacement invasion
Palantir: replacement invasion threshold management. We keep a lid on replacement invasion terrrorism so that you can import bottomless cheap labor and completely destroy your nation so that globalism can reign
Welcome to the Maga party Palantir. Time to come out of the shadows and get some sunlight
Whacky hair and funky glasses won’t excuse you from running totalitarian systems and driving the bilderberg group
“Jewish Palantir CEO Alex Karp claims their AI technology has stopped multiple major terror attacks across Europe”
Specious reasoning – the age old tool of terror and tyrants.
The US Gov’t is already the altar to Molech, forcing foolish migrants come here promising prosperity in exchange for sacrificing their children, all while the rancher fattens up the new slaves for the slaughter, whole DNA lines wiped out within the span of 2-4 generation, poked prodded and forcibly injected with cancer laced weaponized vaccines.
All brought to us by these false gods. Theil the sodo/ vampire with adrenochrome addiction and other techno giant monsters consume humanity for profit while violently pruning and feeding on peoples souls. Eric Schmit and Google et al definitely are not my friend.
Musk is a creation of the deep state, he is not our light bringer or free speech champion. These Demons want your consent then your soul.
How foolish of those excited on hopium, these vicious snakes have suddenly become our friends?
REPLACING something God Almighy created in his image, with trans human made in their image. Careful you don’t lose your soul in the process. Musk only wants to put chips in your brain.
The Beast System is here and we’ve all watched what these soul-less corporations have done a cross the earth. We are being told to accept this? I’d rather Trump poke out their lying spying eyes that want to control our freewill.
It seems is not a choice no matter the narrative constructed. This is more like an announcement, comply or die… faster. Accept the false gods, or you get the laughing cackling Hyena?.
There is nothing good in this.
Why does the fact this guy is Jewish matter? He is either to be trusted or not, as he is, not his heritage. This bugs me.