Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for the assembly of a strategic campaign influence network, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph would be familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph also explains the right-side version of the exact same storyline, James David Vance. It’s a mirror.
On one side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their wing of the UniParty audience. However, both are following the same playbook.
It started with a conversation several weeks ago. Who is JD Vance and where did he come from?
How does a person without any baseline in politics, not a council member, not a mayor, not a state rep – or state senate, governor etc., become a U.S. Senator and then quickly get into the White House?
What I was told sounded eerily familiar.
JD Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013) and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when JD Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020). However, the interesting background on JD Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel.
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
JD Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline we can see how JD Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand JD Vance as an Ohio senator, the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies) from 2013 to now, becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company Palantir Tech is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI). Palantir has massive contract interests in US military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance. The actual technology needed by the Deep State to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, JD Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology? This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio senate race between JD Vance and Tim Ryan. It was Peter Thiel who took JD Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Thiel there is no Senator JD Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018; prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement; JD Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
JD Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership, a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the endorsement and the outcome of the 2022 Ohio senate race.
Within the Thiel network you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Musk and Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and JD Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
JD Vance even named one of his three children Vivek; suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how one billionaire, Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state creates the process to construct a political tool useful for the retention of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
Unfortunately, this approach also diminishes the Trump policy objective intended to eliminate the IC deep state.
As an outcome of a control network in 2006 Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of a control network in 2022 Senator JD Vance was successfully installed. Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical.
We have exhaustively outlined the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as factual. Additionally, we have outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once you understand how both wings of the UniParty operate you can then see how the system of silo creation, retention and protection works.
The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to retain it.
Like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ ALL IS NOT LOST – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken them and/or make them more vulnerable, you put them into a position where they cannot strategize the future because they cannot confirm a data point in their pathway.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee actually gives his opposition power. Essentially makes Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They are then forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing now. That opposition cannot look forward (proactive), they are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump can give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next four years, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad, must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network and the potential problem JD Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we must support that tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors and the aligned Vance influence network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to that 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale. James Donald Bowman, aka JD Vance’s background construct as lived or as sold is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to JD Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We accept that this approach is going to make Peter Thiel, JD Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
Tough!
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When I read that Rupert Murdock told Trump the one guy NOT to pick was Vance, I felt that’s exactly who he actually wanted Trump to pick. Unfortunately it seems like 80% of MAGA is all on board with him.
Exactly
But we have to support him, until he proves himself a decepticon.
I found my guidance through prayer. PDJT picked him, so I have to back it, though I think it very important & relevant to understand his & his wife’s background. Her’s is very worrisome.
On the good side he comes from the foundation stock of Heritage America, the Scots-Irish/Appalachian people.
There’s no reason to support Vance or even like him. Support Trump, he’s the one who will need to do the sorting out.
Ridiculous. And after Trump?
From hillbilly celebrity, to senator, to VP nominee in a few short years. It really threw me for a loop. Suspicious cat remains extremely suspicious. SD, keep up the good work.
The whole American public bought the same narrative in 2008. Why not try it again?
What is his wife’s background. It looked like no one from her family is present at the convention. All she said about them was middle class and immigrant. Are they still living? Does she have brothers and sisters? None appeared to be there.
Wikipedia has an interesting entry about her.
Hi friend, BK had put up a very interesting comment here about it. Here it is
Board member of the Gates Cambridge Alumni Association.Additional info:
Usha taught American history for a brief stint at Sun Yat-sen University in China;
JD and Usha’s relationship was “encouraged” by Professor Amy Chua of Chinese descent while at Yale;
Chua has worked as a clerk for former DC Judge Wald, who has served with the Soros backed Open Societies Foundation;
The law firm Usha worked at has been involved in litigation that will male MAGA’s hair stand straight up! See there background on clients and cases involved in, particularly the pro bono cases. 👀
If there was ever a person suspected of being an IC asset, possibly for more than one country, this one bears the hallmarks required.
Combined with the fact that JD and Usha were ‘encouraged’ to be a couple by another personality with questionable ties to IC or globalists is even more disturbing.
IC handler for JD???
It just does not look good.
Looks to me like you have set up a cottage industry aimed at smearing Usha. Why? Does she threaten you?
Please provide links to your claims and innuendo. Otherwise, you are just dishing out BS.
Unfortunately?
I’m with Sundance for strategy and position on the board: Carson was the best possible pick. Now we have to play the best game that we can with the hand we were dealt.
Don’t forget, all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye. We’re all susceptible to jaundice, is the point.
Let’s start with the basic premise here. It looks a lot like someone took the same approach to nurturing a rising star that was taken to insert Ubu into the (already plowed and fertilized) deep state system, a Trojan Horse to set up a coup on behalf of an external enemy. Who?
It’s the who that’s critical here. In Obama’s case, we know that he came from the European (Schwab, Soros, Davos, all European) globalist project known as the WEF’s Great Reset. Who was behind this project? The European and British banks that have controlled the world for about 400 years because of their position in the great British and European empires. Remember how Obama announced himself as a “citizen of the world” from the Brandenburg Gate, then went on to trash American exceptionalism, create financial mechanisms that gave zero-bound interest rates on offshore dollars that those same banks could lever up and use to create orange revolutions and take over governments, including ours in 2020.
I won’t go on and on about the plandemic and a needle in every arm, and how Europe is where all the cultural rot we now see started out and how they have no fossil fuels to speak of and, therefore, need to take over Russia to return to the ascendency that they lost after WWII. But you get the picture. These freaking nut jobs have been a real problem, and we’re still not free of them, even though you can feel their grip loosening.
So, going back to JDV. How could DJT get as far as he has without some help that is rich and powerful and savvy enough to help him take out the neo-communist infection that is the Great Reset? Isn’t it possible that there is a countervailing force that has been developed to confront the anglo-European vandals that have been bedeviling us for nearly 20 years, maybe longer. Isn’t it possible that the Fed and Musk and Thiel are nationalist forces that don’t want to see the US cannibalized by European and English bankers who would then want control of everything they own and are?
The point being, if these rich, powerful, self-serving people are against those that have had a target on our back for decades, if they are a big part of why Trump — the nationalist, anti-imperialist, deal-making force that he is — now has the wind at his back, that seems to me to be a good thing. He was never going to do it without this kind of help, if it were just him and us and God.
castelletto: Your post is the most sensible on this subject I’ve read. Thank you.
Not a Trojan Horse, but probably not MAGA and it’s good that everyone understand that right now.
I have had very similar thoughts. We will just have to wait and see.
JD Pence
President Trump has to win in November otherwise 2028 won’t matter. Vance gives him the best chance to win. If Vance isn’t loyal he can be shipped off somewhere and ignored. We can worry about 2028 when the time comes. Lots of VPs don’t make the cut…Pence!
“Your fired”. Excellent point CJ.
Exactly! It’s not like President Trump had a lot of choices and Newsom is going to be in the mix so we needed a young, smart, good looking guy to counter him.
Well then he should have found a good looking guy – JD is not that guy.
JD does bring tech money though.
Remember that Heaven Forbid anything happens to Trump from now on Vance slides in.
If anything happens to Trump, the Military takes over!
That’s a keeper.
If you have old Trump/Pence signs you can black out the PE and write in VA.
I have Trump/Pence cups. I had already used a sharpie to strike through Pence and write “F__k Pence” on them.
I thought similar things about the name
That is an unwarranted slur. The two are nothing alike.
Does Palantir See Too Much?
The tech giant helps governments and law enforcement decipher vast amounts of data — to mysterious and, some say, dangerous ends.
https://archive.is/BY3FT#selection-561.2-567.129
The names I keep seeing like Palantir & Mithril are all Tolkien Middle-Earth related. It’s very interesting that ‘they’ are interested in it. There is a backstory to it all, that most do not know about.
Anybody explain to me what these two names meant to Lewis?
I don’t read any fantasy so I thought Mithril had a connection with Mithraism, and that’s obviously wrong
Mithril is a substance used to make impenetrable Elvin armor.
Palantir is a round crystal ball used for remote seeing.
But just like Saruman using his palantir stone, Thiel and the oligarchs and the IC, think they can “control” things but are overpowered by Sauron’s evil. They think they will be sitting pretty with vast wealth and private vacations on nice yachts with escorts who don’t get sea-sick….. at the cost of We the People’s security. Who do they think is Sauron? Islamists or Russians or Chinese or all three?
What is most curious to me is naming a company after Narya.
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Narya
Am I the only one who finds that encouraging? The Rings Trilogy is Catholic to its core.
Maybe not everything is as it seems–who is infiltrating who?
Tolkien (and Lewis) were warning about the Globalists who were at Oxford with them,
Tolkien wrote Christian allegory.
C.S. Lewis wrote Christian books and commentary.
I don’t know that Tolkien was of any particular Christian denomination.
Never heard that LOR was Catholic to its core.
sync: Palantir has always been a spook operation.
Clearview AI is the Thiel founded company that helped the FBI identify and track down J6 protesters
The FBI had photos of all these people because many of them were filming themselves on social media and posting photos online, and they weren’t wearing masks. And so many police departments started running their photos through Clearview AI to identify them.
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/28/1202310781/exposing-the-secretive-company-at-the-forefront-of-facial-recognition-technology
I ask this only in jest, so don’t take it wrong …please!
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Is it possible that Peter Thiel is the Antichrist?
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Can’t stand him and I despise Silicon Valley
He does embody the spirit of the anti-Christ.
Antichrist will be loved by many, so I’m guessing that’s a NO.
In my opinion there are other more suitable candidates for the title of Anti-Christs, Obama & Clinton, both Mr &Mrs come to mind, and those are just the ‘Americans’.
I’d be hard pressed to chose between him and Soros…….
…there can be many antichrist…
Sorry, I refuse to acknowledge anything from the radical Left Wing NPR.
Saved this one for sure, although I have many others.
What I want to know is who is going to get this info to Trump so we can be sure he actually receives it.
Emails and mail mixed with millions of others and sorted by who, just won’t do. I’m tired of printing and send stuff into a void. I hope someone has an inside track to someone on the Trump team.
I am sure he already has all that. He isn’t stupid.
JD Vance
Ty for posting this video
Excellent video. He might not be MAGA but he’s good attacker, and Trump definitely needs that. It almost looks like he made Wolf Blizter cry. haha
I don’t know there are those who think him a very special super smart genius but an absolute babbling fool when it comes to appointments. Personally, if he thinks Vance can help him win or achieve his goals I’m a happy camper. Not going to tell him how to do his job.
He certainly has the upper hand with the newscasters. He was actually very forceful. First I’ve seen these clips.
Seems like the uniparty may have just the guy for the 2030 transition.
Good handling of the newscasters BUT his defense of his children brought back thoughts of Paris Hilton;
He seems to be using his children like Paris Hilton with the puppy in the purse for ‘fashion’……..then along came adopting non white children for ‘fashion’ statements of ‘tolerance’, AND mixed marriages became ‘fashion’ statements and movie fodder.
I am totally for adoption for couples, mixed marriages for love, and puppies for companionship, but for ‘fashion’…….. not so much.
Vance seems to be using the current fashion statements to me along with many people in public offices carrying on the ‘fashions’…….
When a person has to point out the obvious, look, see my wife’s not white, look see, this child is not mine but I am raising it and so forth you found weak link.
Good points!
So Vance when from this to this ….
Publicly, he called the Republican presidential candidate an “idiot” and said he was “reprehensible.” Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler.
In 2016, Vance wrote in a private message to his former law school roommate: “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a**hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?”
The message was not a leak, his Democratic friend released it. The recipient of the message — Josh McLaurin, now a Democratic state senator in Georgia — made the text message public in 2022 and several reputable news outlets corroborated its legitimacy at that time.
A man who has made all those anti-Trump statements couldn’t be so smart. Smart people do not need to repent and apologize for making ridiculous statements. A smart person doesn’t need to walk back past ridiculous statements and stupid decisions like firing thousands of nurses who refused to take the bioweapons COVID-19 vax. He is an opportunist.
Smart people do not line themselves with certain groups and then later withdraw because of opposition from the public. You either have a conviction about that group and stick with them or don’t join in the first place. A smart person does not start a business venture with good causes but uses it as a front to do polling and use it as a political tool that fails in two years.
A smart person does not marry a wife from the Hindu religion and changes his born-again religion to Catholicism instead of his wife’s religion. Religious differences shall abound. What religion will his children be raised in? I would bet the Hindu religion! The man is confused and unnecessarily creates future problems for his marital relationship.
Before the 2020 election took place Glenn Beck tried to directly contact DJT and then tried to talk with his staff and get them to read the Dem’s plan which included scenarios for d win, r win and other factors. He could not rouse interest. In late 2020 He sent a $1 million check to Trump with a note saying in the memo section, for your legal battles.
Peter Thiel was on President Trump’s 2016 transition team
https://money.cnn.com/2016/12/07/technology/peter-thiel-trump-transition/
Commenters forget that Trump and Thiel are good friends.
Don’t think thats the issue that Sundance has raised. Sundance has pointed out – with receipts- tht Thiel’s ultimate business goals are at odds with MAGA goals.
For example, is the Central Intelligence Agency pro-MAGA? Do they work to support Constitutional goals for a sovereign United States? A lot of us believe they are and have been at odds with American constitutional principles almost since their beginning.
But not Peter Thiel. His company Palantir’s first backer was the Central Intelligence Agency‘s venture capital arm In-Q-Tel. The company steadily grew and in 2015 was valued at $20 billion, with Thiel being the company’s largest shareholder.
To me that’s kind of a big red flag, don’t ya’ think?
In Q Tel is a huge red flag.
Tyrants government-fund the R and D and then private capture all the new control tech while getting in on the IPO’s for self-enrichment.
But
There may be something else? Opposing Palantir?
Kim Clement, July 31, 2004:
https://truthsocial.com/@georgekennedy/posts/112814171382474146
Summary:
There will be one assassination attempt to try to bring God’s plans for this Nation to nothing. Look to the Vice President. Forces of darkness. But God will supply a very special weapon with unusual powers of observation in a way that is not normal.
I have to say, the woo factor is blooming on steroids these days (between that Trump’s ear prophecy 4 months ago and a posting of “Fight Fight Fight” on a certain board with a drawing right above it that looks to be straight out of one of those alleged “remote viewing” sessions a la Macgonogal on Shawn Ryan). It is becoming impossible to disregard things like this.
IMHO, Clement got the 2 Presidents at one time thing correct (not only devolution but also Biden doubles / Masks).
If such a weapon exists, we probably would not have heard about it. Not the sort of thing that leaks.
Great job Alex, have you ever read my little reveal about Tolkien & Lewis?
Huh, that feeds into ‘it’s impossible to take down the CIA’ yet between a couple posts here and Sundance, it was just revealed Peter Thiel actually may have the ability to see behind the curtain/bring them down.
Curious, I must go ponder the possibilities…
Then take this up with President Trump and his campaign team. Maybe he should be alerted to your red flag.
I wasn’t paying much attention to the book when it came out. I remember a lot of hoopla about it but couldn’t understand why a book about a poor kid from Appalachia who lifted himself out of poverty and a broken home was such a big deal. I remember lots of stories about the poor kids from Appalachia when I was in Catholic school and we would have fundraising or clothing donation drives. I thought the title was strange. Never understood what a hillbilly actually was. It just wasn’t unusual for me to know people who had lifted themselves out of bad situations and made a good life.
Maybe I should read the book though just to get some perspective.
I followed the Obama rollout more in real time. So I see the similarity that SD is pointing out.
So, you were in a Catholic School, which means you paid for it. You had fundraising and clothing drives (good for you) since you obviously didn’t need these things. No, a lot of people do not lift there way out of Appalachia. Do you think the Hatfields and McCoys live in the same place today as they did? Yes, a few did make it out.
I just find a bit of hypocrisy in your post.
I’ve been reading CTH for so long I’ve learned to give even more credence to my gut feelings and with what little I knew before this article I have to pat myself on the back for feeling there had to be much more. Only here at CTH could we ever expect to receive it.
For several days i was posting very similar posts and others were bashing me for not supporting Trump.
Even if Sunday did not post this piece I would still fell the same way—
However it is so nice to know I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE!!
I used to express doubts about DeSantis 2,3 years ago and I got bashed constantly. This was during peak Scamdemic and he was being praised as “the only Governor who”.
A good number of people wanted him to be nominee in 2024. 70/30 Trump? But even the people who still preferred Trump loved him too.
The part that has me rattled the most is so many forget that Vance is next in line If something happens to Trump from now on.
Oh sure Trump and others can keep on thumb on Vance as VP, but if Heaven forbid Vance is the Snake and something happens to Trump.
Pence and his main staff guy watched Trump like he was a mouse and they were the hawk. Good thing DJT was not off’d when pres.
Since the hit on DJT was botched they will try again. If they wait until he is pres and sworn in, Vance is definitely the worm in the apply.
However, everything is weird. Speaker Johnson ignoring freedom caucus, handing out $billions to Foreign nations, and supposedly doing it all after discussion with Trump. Have the rinos masked as DJT boot-lickers been giving him advice on how to win the general? Was that why he picked Vance.
I don’t know if this is Trump’s total own choice with no pressure or advice form others, but it is not a good one.
Too many variables for a man like Vance to be chosen.
Actually i really didn’t have any favorites for VP, just a few that I did not like …Vance was put out in Media later in the game so came as a shock to many.
FISAs warrants work on both sides of the mirror. If members of these shadow networks are found in the treasonous RICO comms, then expect they will be ushered off-stage, at best. Trump will also be making fear of God great again. Retribution. We heard it.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/
While J.D. Vance has his own controversies, his close connection to billionaire Peter Thiel, who is poised to have unprecedented influence in a new Trump administration, should deeply unsettle every American who cares about freedom, privacy and reining in the surveillance state.
Look, the PTB are not going to toss the keys to the United States to anyone who they don’t approve.
Looks like a deal was made which means that President Trump will win in November! Isn’t that what really matters at this point or do want another four years of the Biden Clown Car?
California Joe: I agree with you. The goal is to re-take the White House.
It just shows they will install anyone, especially someone to humiliate and terrorize us. And if you dare to audit their fraudulent election they will throw you in prison.
2020, the most honest election in Earth’s history…
Sure, what then. How long before DJT has an unwanted suicide, or an accident in the shower, or perhaps a small dart-ignited heart attach. Great for them, Vance is now ‘their guy’ and welcome NWO.
Despite what you are reading in this shameful article about JD Vance, the reality is that big money donors, wealthy Wall Street brokers, and old-guard neoconservatives are seething over former President Donald Trump’s choosing JD Vance as his vice presidential running mate – similar to 2016 when the same elite crowd was furious over Trump’s candidacy.
The economic elite are taking to the pages of establishment media to voice their opposition.
Vance is most at odds with Wall Street brokers and big business groups like the Chamber of Commerce on issues of immigration and trade. Unlike the Republican Party’s old guard, Vance backs a tight labor market with reduced immigration levels where the economy is tilted in favor of American employees over employers.
Big business allies said “CEOs are shocked” by Vance becoming Trump’s running mate.
The GOP’s wealthiest donors lobbied behind the scenes against Vance in the hopes of a more establishment-friendly pick like Sen. Tim Scott.
Neoconservatives, with deep financial ties to military contractors that rely on hawkish foreign policy to line their pockets, are “scared to death” of Vance as vice president because he opposes unlimited spending in Ukraine and foreign interventionism.
He sounds like the right guy to me.
Amen, Ron. This article in Breitbart elaborates on exactly what you are saying — that basically, Vance is like President Trump’s junk yard dog as far as Wall Street is concerned. This is an enjoyable read:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/19/wall-street-donors-neocons-seethe-over-populist-jd-vance-being-trumps-vp/
Breitbart was bought quite a few years ago, reminiscent of the Drudge Report, and is no longer trustworthy. My account was banned within a week of previous, due to multiple posts about S0r0s.
*the website… of course not referring to the person, who I much admire, and who fully pulled back the curtain for me for the first time
I am impressed with his intellect. His wife is very bright also. They are a couple who are in the top 1/4% of the intellects in this country. I will wait and see if the IT connection is anti-Google / Obama/WEF interests and is pro American worker in reality or pro IT interests which may be the same. I am not sure either Mr. Trump or Mr. Vance will survive to lead us in the restructuring of the Deep State politically or physically. The Euro/Progressive money machine for green economy and anti development of Carbon and Nuclear will not go peacefully.
This is where Vance’s names come from; not so insidious:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Vance
Vance was born on August 2, 1984, in Middletown, Ohio, to Donald Bowman and Beverly (née Vance).[3][4] Vance’s mother and father divorced when Vance was a toddler. Shortly afterward, he was adopted by his mother’s third husband.[1]
Vance and his sister Lindsey were raised mainly by his grandparents, James and Bonnie (née Blanton) Vance.[5][6][7] J. D. later went by the name James Hamel, his stepfather’s surname, until adopting his grandparents’ surname, Vance.[8]
Thank you for posting this. Proves there is nothing nefarious or suspicious in Vance’s name changes. All above board!
“Deep State Mafia is Running Both Political Parties” by Whitney Webb, with Clayton Morris > Thiel, PayPal, Palantir and JD Vance
I believe Peter Thiel is a strong believer in classical liberalism and an even stronger supporter of Western civilization. Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir was and still is the most vocal supporter of Israel following Oct 7.
He financed Trump, Blake Masters and JD Vance.
I personally see his presence in global forums as an influencer versus Great Reset participant. Could be wrong, but I have appreciated his early support of Trump and writings/comments on macro issues.
Pray for Trump. He’s surrounded by actors who work to ingratiate themselves with him. They disarm the public with these rags-to-riches stories, appealing to your emotions. On the inside, they are ravenous wolves who truly despise him (and us) and are deployed as plants by the global oligopoly to sink in their hooks and neutralize this movement. They would step over his dead body to take his place without a second thought. Jesus said, “Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing”. When Trump announced JD as VP and I learned he graduated from Yale Law School, my immediate gut instinct was that Yale is a complete hotbed for the CIA. The CIA taps these people to join secret societies, they ritualistically compromise themselves as initiation into the cabal, and they are essentially guaranteed a rapid ascension to power. These become the illuminated ones who walk between the rain drops, and the sea always parts for them. Then, you use the “Hillbilly Elegy” PR machine as social camouflage, and people lower their defenses. No coincidence that he was groomed by Peter Thiel. JD Vance was a Never Trumper who actually said this: “I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.”
Mr. NWO himself, GHW Bush and his son were/are Skull & Bones members – the largest club of elite globalist the US has to offer. Vance was editor of the Yale Law Review? When Carlson, Musk and their like back him I’m confused. There is nothing, not one iota of evidence in Vance’s background that shouts out MAGA conservative. We are being conned.
Breitbart article re those not happy with Vance.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/19/wall-street-donors-neocons-seethe-over-populist-jd-vance-being-trumps-vp/
Yeah, big money donors, wealthy Wall Street brokers, and old-guard neoconservatives aren’t happy. Isn’t that what we want?
I’m about halfway through that article and it’s very good and interesting. But what I find a bit odd is the talk about JD’s political career thus far makes it sound like he’s been in politics for many years when in fact it’s been a mere 18 months. 🙂
Interesting: Republican megadonor Ken Griffin’s team conveyed to Trump that they didn’t want the Ohio senator.
I had read some time ago that Griffin was considering supporting Trump but wanted to know who the VP pick was first. I guess Grifin won’t be donating to Trump. 🙂
Fake outrage. They are really ecstatic. Bullet missed but Vance in!
Obama’s enablers and enablers were COMMUNISTS. PURE LEFTY COMMUNISTS.
I doubt Vance’s were so far left
IMO all the other VP candidates were too old
America does need younger guys to step up
Unfortunately the youth of todayare corrupted by the left and its hard to find a guy of Vance’s age who has conservative views
IMO
So this go round the puppet’s backers are would-be oligarchs, not communists. Perhaps a slight improvement, but not much of one.
Trump certainly does things that make you scratch your head at times. I would like to think that by this time he knows who and what he is up against.
He knows he has to win in November and not by a little, he needs a margin that reaches beyond any of the cheating that will certainly be going on.
Through the Looking Glass
Thiel backed Trump in 2016 not Hillary. In his 2 years in the Senate Vance has an OK record. Let’s see. Besides if Vance wants the Trump endorsement in 2028 he has to earn it not undermine Trump’s agenda.
So did Obama as far as liberals go.
Yikes, I was already convinced J.D. was a scumbag in hiding but once again, Sundance rips back the curtain and shows us. Excellent as always Sundance.
Just adding a factoid: I recall when I read this thread the day it was posted, many said that Vance wasn’t from Appalachia.
Wrong.
His family were from Jackson, Kentucky. That’s where he spent his childhood summers, and where he said he felt happiest, most comfortable.
His grandmother had fled Jackson and gone to Ohio when she discovered at 16 that she was pregnant.
Jackson is in Breathitt County. All the sources I have found list that county as part of Appalachia.
I know, I was really hoping that the VP pick would be Dr. Ben Carson. I wonder how J.D. “Vance” is going to have any credibility on the immigration issue.
Not sure what you mean, but I suspect you’re talking about his wife’s parents. I’m quite sure they are legal immigrants.
“Wall Street, Donors, Neocons Seethe Over Populist JD Vance Being Trump’s VP.” Huh. Also, Barry did not serve in the military during his choom-gang days. So, I’m not going with the mirror analogy.
Just leaving this here.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/07/blind-item-2_01865286224.html
There’s no reason politics and the tech industry should work any differently than the music industry:
https://rumble.com/v577wm3-revelation-the-song-channeled-from-god-w-john-rich.html
John Rich describes how it works in Nashville (around minute 35 I think, but the whole interview is a great listen).
Also, CDAN has good sources.
It had Kevin Spacey nailed to a wall years before he was exposed
And let’s face it, if JD Vance thought he was gay in high school, Thiel was going to view that as an opportunity.
It may be that’s why it’s in Vance’s book, because he had to do the nod.
An exploitable weakness, one that ran through the Bush White House through the Obama White House through the rap music industry, and on and on.
Childhood trauma a very important component to mind control aka Cathy O’Brien
I was curious to know what JD had done in the military. If you recall, DeSantis’ own description of his service led many to believe it was different than what it actually was, best described by this excerpt from a fact-checking article:
At the first Republican presidential primary debate, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis touted his military experience, saying he “was assigned with U.S. Navy SEALs in Iraq” and “deployed to Iraq alongside U.S. Navy SEALs.” That’s accurate: He was a Navy lawyer who advised a SEAL commander.
I don’t know what anyone has read about JD, but his own Senate bio says this: shortly after (his grandmother died) JD enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. JD went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War.
Here are the details I compiled from a few sources which got their info from military records: JD enlisted in the military directly out of high school. He joined the Marines in 2003 and served as a combat correspondent (military journalist). He was stationed at the Marine Corps Air Station in Cherry Point NC. For 6 months in late 2005 he was deployed to Iraq to escort civilian press and write stories about individual marines.
He spent 4 years in the military and I have automatic respect for him just for that. And he had no control of when combat was occurring, he was lucky that he wasn’t thrown into any. But I think saying he “served our nation in the Iraq war” when for 7/8 of the time he was in North Carolina is a bit disingenuous.
I’ve decided I’m not going to comment about JD on any other forum. I’m going to be very supportive of the Trump-Vance ticket because I need Trump to be elected. I don’t know what I’m going to do if he’s not elected, I can’t take 4 more years of a Democrat President. It was good to lower my expectations about JD though so I’m not disappointed later.
Vance isn’t eligible.
The restored Republic reportedly will use the Constitution as it was in 1861, with the original 13th Amendment, the Titles of Nobility amendment; the original was memory-holed, overwritten, erased. Some suggest 1871, prior to the Organic Act which created the current corporate government and it’s 10 mile square capitol. The 13th has been the cause of many grave actions.
The traitor Alexander Hamilton facilitated the creation of the first central bank in NY, the charter for which expired in 1811. Congress refused to renew it, as fears of what a central bank would do had in the interim been realized. The British invaded the following year to seek and destroy all records of the Amendment and it’s foreign agent prohibitions. They failed.
As a BAR (British Accreditation Registry) attorney, JD Vance is allied with the Crown, and thereby ineligible to serve in the Federal government. Lincoln was also ineligible, and that is why South Carolina seceded. The plan to elect Lincoln was unconstitutional. There were more than 100 such with divided loyalties in Congress at the time, so it might well be said that what happened a decade later had it’s cause already firmly rooted. Today, nearly all are, and worse.
Vance’s background and associations aside, DJT cannot possibly be unaware of the prohibition. He mentioned the restored Republic in his acceptance speech Thursday night. A plan to make Vance the heir apparent in ’28 is therefore unlikely. That DJT must get elected, or regain office by some other means to have such a succession, is essential anyway.
Vance is in my mind a place-holder, so that the secrets he was part of are dismantled and exposed, by an insider. S&B especially. And the blood company.
It should also be assumed that most of the figures in the IC and tech communities are personas, replaced by actors, their levers of power, assets and technologies now manipulated by military intelligence, from which most of the tech originated. It isn’t that these guys aren’t smart. They are. They’re smart business people, not necessarily tech gurus.
Pretty good info Martin.
Comparing JD Vance to the DarkBringing DogEater?
Did the latter enlist and serve in the Marine Corps?
With all due respect, Sundance — I think you’re overthinking this one, and I hope (unlike usually) your suspicions are wrong.
100% JD Vance wants to close the border and bring back manufacturing. It’s crazy to be against that. People here sound nuts.
Nessun Dorma’: Did Trump send a veiled threat to deep state actors?” on YouTube
Tonight we watched this Unherd interview with Oren Cass – he is involved with (I think he runs it?) American Compass, an outfit which Vance seems to be aligned with.
We learned a lot about what economic and social angles Vance is interested in. Well worth watching. I found it somewhat reassuring.
https://unherd.com/watch-listen/the-philosophy-of-j-d-vance/
Don Jr. pushed for JD big time.
Or go direct to the source and keep Thiel himself on notice.
Who makes a movie about himself in his thirties not achieving anything monumental. I hope I am wrong in not trusting this guy.
Why is it everyone doubting Trump and second guessing this pick. So, Vance bad mouthed Trump almost a decade ago, you can’t changed your mind??? I’m guessing almost all of you were Ted Cruz supporters too at the beginning, and now you’re all hard charging Trump supporters. It’s ok to change your mind, and admit you made a mistake before. Too many “holier than thou” comments here.
I can’t believe that DJT put this POS on his ticket.
Why?
The name changes ,to me, don’t represent anything of importance. He was born a Bowman, his moms name, then she changed to the next name when she remarried and finally he took his Grandparents name of Vance…..could be innocent I’m a wait and see……….
Please stop eating our own. We need to win this election and this type of article doesn’t help.
All of your articles about outside money are destructive. Arizona senate candidate tried to win without party money, he lost. He was a great candidate.
Please support or conservative candidates. The goal is to win. We are fighting for our Country and we don’t all agree on everything.
Vance (not even his real name) is a snake. We’re screwed again.
Uhm, yes, Vance is his real name. Check the post by littleflower481 above.
I dearly love CTH, but if you have been on this site long you will notice that there is some group think, with most following the premise of the current article. In this case the original article was worded to put JD in a bad light which has certainly contributed to many of the negative posts.
For instance, JD has an association with Theil & Musk; this could be worded to be a positive or negative, but the article paints it as a negative. The article suggests JD is Obama 2.0 which for many is all that is needed to jump on the anti-Vance wagon. Additionally, most of the people here start out being wary of everything DC, so it does not take much to loosen the rock and let it roll downhill.
The article could have presented facts without the slant and been much better. I hope the disappointment of Carson did not contribute.
Being associated with billionaires and pulling in 100s of millions of dollars is being called a negative. Let
us remember that President Trump is in the billionaire club and can use every penny in the fight against evil.
AI has already left the proverbial bottle and will be dictating much of our future. We are not putting
it back. Having someone associated with those working on the future is better than not.
That many would call Usha a negative because of her heritage and religion is just awful and sickening. It
leaves me with a loss for words and a loss of respect for those involved.
Vance is for the American worker. He is a Marine. His enemies include Ryan, Romney, and McConnel. What
in here is not to like?
What the naysayers are forgetting is the golden rule of politics.
‘All that matters is winning in November’.
President Trump believes JD gives us the best chance of winning. As he is in the best position to determine this, we should give him, JD and Usha our support.
Lastly, thanks to Sundance for the update which takes some of the pain from the article away.
Good comment.
JD Vance
“Mr. MOM JEANS!!
Lord help us. 🙏
Is it just me, or is anyone else sensing another Mike “Judas” Pence?
I think worse……
When I look at a Presidential nominee I also think will the VP be a good president if they have to take over?
Will Vance be a good president, if something happens to Trump. H3LL no.
Not only is Trump a bit old(79), but the Globalist have been doing everything they can to try to try to keep Trump out of the WH, including at least two Assassination attempts.
Too many who are on the fence about Vance or maybe don’t like & trust him are saying “Well Trump and his handlers with keep him in line” Who will keep Vance in line if heaven forbid we lose Trump before the 4 years is up.
Are you serious?
Great article. Thank you for all you do!
Just as a counterpoint, this is a comment that popped up on my FB timeline that I think is worth sharing because it reflects a perspective that I don’t think should be ignored. “Just finished listening to the audiobook “Hillbilly Elegy” by JD Vance. This is one of the best books I’ve read on the subject of lower class Americans and how they view the US. The interesting thing was I grew up very similarly. Change the location to ANY ghetto in the inner city of any major city and this story would be common. The men in my life were the same as some of his uncles in the book, including my granddaddy “Main Blake” Many of us have had an “Aunt We” sister Lindsey, and a pappaw and mammaw.
I think this is what makes the American culture so rich. I drew no major distinction between living in a holler than on a city block full of vacant lots and run down buildings. The backdrop was different but the mind, problems and inhabitants the same. We all knew each other, we were nice to each other and we didn’t know we were poor.
JD said something that struck me towards the end… he knew he would never return to Middletown not because he didn’t like it but because he was no longer like the inhabitants. Sure some things had changed from attending Yale and Ohio state but the BIGGEST thing was that he had hope. HIS MIND WAS DIFFERENT after seeing some of the world. To live in places like the inner cities and Appalachia it takes a certain mindset.
This is no slight to those there.. it’s an understanding of WHY they’re still there. My family is still there, I have nothing against the ghetto, I just don’t identify with the culture anymore. Folk sometimes ask me “why don’t people move from the high crime areas in Chicago?” I tell them it’s all they know, you can’t want what you don’t know. They live where gunshots are normal and just a part of daily life, like hearing the sprinklers come on. The people aren’t dumb, many have made it out. The question they grapple with is “is the cost of change worth it?” See it’s easier to stay the same.. that can be expensive at times. I am alone in the world because I chose the road less traveled.
JD did a great job at capturing the behind the scenes of life of poverty and payday loans but he also stepped across the lines to explain the socioeconomic impact of being surrounded by generational poverty. I would also like to add it is pure ignorance to make fun of his background. He had no choice in his mom’s many marriages or drug use. NONE of us do! All of us are victim to a certain degree of upbringing. I fight DAILY with mindset because abundance in any form is unfamiliar. I’m more comfortable with a half empty fridge because it’s what I knew, I fight that daily. Do you understand that? There is a fight to change involved and he WON.
A hillbilly is heading to the White House.. what a great testament of the resilience of this man.”
Sounds a bit similar to another book that was authored by another WH aspirational young man….Hmmm
Actually very close
Comparing Vance to Obama is horrible. One is a decent patriot and above board, while the other is an American-hating fascist bent on the destruction of the country.
Well Vance has VERY similar markers in his life even to the short senate career.
Obama was horrible but start looking at the markers.
its almost like someone said it worked before lets try it again.
What an outstanding and inspirational comment. It is a testament to your resilience as well.
I read your comment to my husband. He was as moved as I.
Not only did JD Vance WIN, so did you.
Never forget the globalist, the Powers That Be (PTB) play the long, very long game. They know who to get and how to do it. Not everyone is a candidate. They have to be special, in that they want and need power. Hillary, before Slick Willy, was a young republican but had a huge ambition to be some body. Vance is no different than Vivek, just does not have his charisma.
Problem now is when will a bite out of the apple show us the worm inside? Trump has a lousy people picker and true sense of who the fakes are.
I told my brother on the’ pick Vance day’ that Trump was set up. Just like Ann Coulter questioned when Bush 43 nominated Roberts for the high court “who the hell is this guy”. The Mirror has it right.
Could someone explain to me what is so wonderful about JD Vance? The some of the men in the conservative media on the internet are fan boys. They are like teen age girls talking about the new teen idol.
Sundance, I did not hear this in Trump’s speech:
“President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.”
Would you mind pointing this part out in his speech?
This sounds like JD is a product of MK Ultra.
I worked with Palantir while working for the LAPD. It was a program that allowed for the tracking of any one person. Just for kicks, I entered my license plate, and there I was…driving all over Los Angeles. People have no idea how well we are all being followed.
Scary, to say the least!