President Donald J Trump has selected Ohio Senator JD Vance to be his Vice-Presidential running mate.
[Announcement via Truth Social]
Cliff Notes – On the upside JD Vance brings with him the full support of Silicon Valley and unites the various social media clans and venture capitalists (Musk, Ackerman, Thiel, etc.). This means a big boost to the financial position of the Trump campaign, support from half the banking community, and also the absence of internet protocols that would restrict or oppose his 2024 campaign platform.
Additionally, on a geopolitical level, Vance will be unlikely to interfere too much on the global peace initiative; that’s important. Also, Vance will likely not interfere too much with MAGAnomic policy other than oppose tariffs that align against the aforementioned Vance benefactors. JD Vance was heavily pushed by Donald Trump Jr.
On the downside the ‘never trust a Never-Trumper’ axiom was never more true than it is today. The IC-aligned DHS network behind JD Vance opens a Trump administration to the scorpions within the deepest part of the intelligence apparatus. We can easily predict the decade of 2030-2040 now that JD Vance has been selected. The IC silos will predictably go dormant now as things settle in with Vance, at least for a while. I’ll have much more on these granular aspects in days and weeks to come.
This selection also guarantees a prominent position for Vivek Ramaswamy in the cabinet.
President Donald Trump is scheduled to make the announcement of his 2024 Vice-President pick today. His running mate will be announced shortly.
This is one of the most consequential decisions of the 2024 campaign and the anticipation is extreme.
Everyone has their favorite, and there are many possibilities. We all watch together.
Big smiles.
Regardless of the selection, Trump 2024!
I adore Bed Carson, I think he is a brilliant man and is loyal to President Trump. However, the choice has been made and it is JD Vance. A man of equally humble beginnings as Dr. Carson.
Another thing Dr. Carson and JD Vance have in common……they both went to Yale. 🤔
I’m good with Vance, and I predict GREAT things to come!
DJ & JD n ’24,……………… (bumper sticker/yard sign ready).
I do not always agree with Sundance. Sometimes he overlooks crucial matters and in particular I see a red light with this choice. There are many members of the Catholic Church, of the Orthodox Church and of various Protestant churches who are not Christians according to the words of Jesus who said to his disciples:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21)
What does Jesus mean by “who does the will of my Father”? In the same gospel Jesus gives the answer. He sums this up in the two great commandments: a wholehearted devotion to God (putting God first in your life) and a compassionate concern for people including your enemies (which is a reflection of showing love for your neighbor). It means living a life which begins with repenting (sorrow and turning away from sin) and believing the gospel (the good news that Jesus was crucified, died and rose giving his life a ransom for many.)
I see very little of this among the members of Congress. I see very few members who are prepared to be principled like Daniel in the Old Testament. I see a huge amount of confusion today about Biblical Christianity and ignorance of the teachings of Jesus among those members who profess to be Christian or Catholic or Protestant and even Evangelical. People speak of the US having a Judeo-Christian foundation but cannot explain what this really means. JD Vance appears by his actions to be one of the members that is confused on this matter. While he appears to be a competent and industrious man, is he prepared to be a God honoring man whatever the consequences? I pray he will be.
To be truly honest.
WHO CARES?
In this country we have separation of Church and State.
It’s not like the Old Country where the guy in charge was a Catholic and the laws reflected Catholicism. Or else.
A person’s goodness is not predicated by a person’s chosen religion.
And you don’t have to belong to some specific Protestant sect to understand what a Judeo-Christian foundation refers to. You can be an orthodox born again Zoroastrian and still understand that.
It a set of laws and beliefs that specify the primacy of the individual above the group and the relationship of the individual with the Creator… without any interpretation needed in between…. In essence: individual rights are God Given and not issued by the State.
Now, don’t get uppity here…. I see a lot of you folks praying here and there… now, I don’t have an issue with that, but not for one God Given minute think that your prayers are any more important than my wife’s when she burns incense to her ancestors.
There.
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
Caspice?
BTW: One of the problems that I have with many American Conservatives is that they are Moral Conservatives that judge their neighbors based upon what Church they go to.
That, IMHO, is as bad as atheists and so on.
Do not judge people by their religious beliefs, judge them by their character and deeds.
Live and let live.
I agree, too much dogma on either side is good.
Are you sure that is what you wanted to say?
The hidden thought underlying this is relativism, that all ideas are equally valid. Mutually exclusive views of God cannot both be true and a false view has a profound misdirecting affect. If God exists, a correct understanding of him matters. Only if he doesn’t exist can “whatever floats your boat, its all the same” seem plausible.
Your wife burning incense and praying to her ancestors is an error in that she is praying/worshipping a created thing, not that which created it. An error underlying all paganism.
Character and deeds can be done as form of mimickry of those actually spiritually aligned with God.
When I read in Genesis about God’s creation of man “in his own image” (spiritual), I take this to mean distinct from the other physical humans who existed at the time who are NOT in his image. i.e., there are physical humans spiritually aligned with God, and those who are not.
I see leftists as being of line that only mimics actual humans (those in God’s image). What they do and say makes much more sense in that perspective.
Well, I hope you enjoy the Iranian School of Governance because you are injecting religion where it doesn’t belong.
I hope you understand that, if not, then I’m sorry for you. You are seeing the World in a very restricted viewpoint and extremely intolerant as well.
And, btw, if you analyze your post, you are making an erroneous claim. You claim that I’m using a type of “relativism” where all “ideas are equally valid”
I’m an certainly not making such a claim.
Go read what I wrote, it’s really very simple.
Separation of Church and State.
And who gave you the right to tell us what God is like? Like the 7th Day Adventist pastor who gave the funeral sermon at my late brother in law… a Japanese-American guy and went to insult everybody in the room.
Mind you, I don’t particularly care if you do that, it’s your right to do so, but I do expect you to respect my right to do otherwise. I won’t proselytize you if you don’t proselytize me.
Otherwise you are implementing the same World the Puritans were running away from.
I’m not the one telling you, the knowledge is available to all in the general revelation of the natural world and special revelation of Christ.
You can know the correspondence with truth by its fruits … cultures with ancestor worship that confuse worship of created thing with creator have very specific fates.
Do you understand my posts?
I give you facts (separation of Church and State, Puritans, theocracy, proselytizing ), yet you give me platitudes.
You are proving my premises.
Whatever, may God, whatever it may be, see to you.
Just don’t expect me to agree with your interpretation of God. And don’t even attempt to legislate it.
BTW, Shinto, Buddish, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, etc.. seem to be doing quite well. So are the Orthodox Christians.
No one is trying to dictate to you.
You can serve whatever god you want or none at all
… but as Christians we do not want to be dictated to either.
We have the right to live and SAY what we believe, who we are… and not be forced to hide who we are, what we believe… to keep our job. Just being a Trump supporter now puts your job in jeopardy. Opposing a covid-vax – that is NOT a vaccine, puts your job in jeopardy.
There is now significant persecution of Christians and Christian beliefs, valyes principles – evrn though Judeo-Christian principles and values BUILT the United States from the ground up… for centuries.
It’s not acceptable for a Christian child, who refuses to use inaccurate pronouns to be expelled from school which is occurring….
Actually, leftist woke-ism IS a religion and has been installed in all our public/govt schools and universities… and national sports, corporations, govt, military, etc.
So today we have LESS “separation of church and state” than we did 50 -75 years ago… and this NEW GOVT enforced RELIGION (leftist woke-ism) is increasingly dangerous to the freedom of all Americans
Also, in my prior post, I was just explaining the history of our founding documents. They are indeed rooted in judeo-Christian values and principles.
That’s simply reality. And they are good principles… that have served our nation well for most of our existence UNTIL leftist WOKE RELIGION has been installed slowly, now agressively… as the OFFICIAL RELIGION of the USA and most of europe too.
Now we have a serious problem.
Look, you are going into non sequiturs.
What you complain about is strictly AGAINST the separation of Church and State.
Communists are atheists.. and atheists are religious because they make the Act Of Faith that there is no God. Hence, Communism breaks the separation of Church of State.
As posted below, Jefferson wanted Freedom of Religion, hence Communists are also unconstitutional.
For Judeo Christian World View and how that affect the foundation of our nation, I addressed that below. You are conflating the Judeo Christian World View with Christianity, there are different.
Please read my post below.
Do you understand your posts?
yep.
Tony….doing quite well?….As it is restricted by man’s limited knowledge.
Seperation of Church and State, like the notion of religious liberty, is a freemasonic heresy designed to deny God’s rights and the social kingship of Jesus Christ. All earthly authority, including the head of a family and the state, are subject to the authority of God. Arguments to the contrary deny the divine ane natural law and seek to elevate the will of created man above the will of God, which is knowable through divine revelation and the natural light of reason.
Separation of Church and State necessarily produced the hedonistic neoliberalism that resulted in the collapse of the nuclear family, no fault divorce, contraception, sodomite “marriage,” child sacrifice, child genital mutilation, forced vaccination, wars of imperialism, economic exploitation and globalism, and promotion of the rights of the enemies of God.
WHICH church is the one to combine with the government to make everything right in your opinion?
Baptist? Methodist” Lutheran” Catholicism? Presbyterianism? Anglican? Church of God? Assembly of God? Seventh Day Adventist? First Alliance?
There’s the problem. I see people like yourself ending up telling me how I can dress, what movies I may watch, what art is considered blasphemous? Will you make it against the law for gay couples to live together? I see your way as the road to a dictatorship of people who think they know what is best for everyone. CS Lewis warned us of this.
Separation of church and state is the only way to go. If your religion isn’t attractive to me, that’s your problem. I see folks with your philosophy as the other side of the coin that is fundamental Islam. I decide what the Bible means, not you.
With all due respect and Christian charity, I do not see a problem on which religion. There is one church founded by Jesus Christ, the one true religion. All others religions are man made, and therefore false and a violation of the first commandment. All are called to accept Christ the King.
As far as telling other people what to do, poorly catechized Christians routinely misunderstand criticism of the sin for criticism of the sinner. Admonishing the sinner is one of the seven spiritual works of mercy. It is done out of love for God and love of neighbor for God’s sake. The admonishment is given because one’s immortal soul is in jeopardy of permanent separation from God as a result of persisting in grave, mortal sin contrary to Divine Revelation, Divine Law, or natural law.
To be frank, I’m not proposing what is best for you or anyone, I merely state what God has already revealed which can be discerned as Truth through the natural light of reason. God gives every man free will, and then wants every man to subjugate that free will to His will. That is the whole point of life on earth, to merit heaven.
The separation of church and state is an anti-christian, free masonic idea born of the enlightenment, when man thought himself so wise and noble he no longer needed God. It presupposes that man’s will is not subject to the will of God and that man can make laws in opposition to the power that grants him legitimacy and authority. Sort of like the Non Serviam of Lucifer, the original rebel against God. Then as now that road leads to destruction.
The state clearly has no authority except that which comes from God and no purpose except to promote the common good of man. As the common good of man is only achieved by adhering to Divine and natural law, any attempt to deviate from them are, on their face, against the common good. Separating church and state leads to the permissive, neoliberal, Do What Thou Wilt state we have now which actually serves the devil.
You danced around my question. It is quite a difference between Roman Catholicism, Assemblies of God and Methodist dogmas, and just where will Jews fit in?
The government has no business sticking their noses into religion.
Your whole essay suggests …
“You don’t understand. If you understood, you’d agree with me.”
I have folks on the left trying to take away my First and Second Amendment rights and now here come someone on the right, chomping at the bit to define:
“Divine and natural law”
“natural light of reason”
“Divine Revelation”
Why don’t you read the First Amendment?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Truth….God decides what the Bible means.
AND … does God, Himself, interpret the Bible for you? I say, “yes”. I don’t need another person sticking their nose in unless I seek out additional input. I determine what the Bible means over every other human being. Satisfied?
One thing I know for sure….I ask God to forgive me for my ignorance and my judgement of others. No matter how smart I think I am, that I hold my tongue and pray for wisdom.
Hey, great for you but that a non sequitur in this argument.
Just like a Bacardi on the rocks after dinner is also a non sequitur for appetizers.
I used to believe all roads led to God. Mutual exclusivity is a female canine animal.
Sigh …the founding fathers feared theists as much as they feared monarchists.
You can worship how you want to if you harm no one and leave me and mine alone. Period.
I very much respect people of faith and their practice thereof …as long as they respect my beliefs and my right to them.
Jesus said, “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
When Genesis 1 tells us, “God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them” it is not referring to a physical resemblance like that between a parent and child. It does however tell us that all humans are created in the image of God, a characteristic they share with God that no other animal does. How did man and woman resemble God? Well like God they spoke and were able to communicate by using language. They were also meant to reflect something of the character of God. When our first parents disobeyed God, the image of God was marred or disfigured.
The image of God can be restored. For the believer in Christ they should be reflecting more each day of the character of God in their lives. This is not a natural thing but comes from having the Spirit of God working in their lives to bear the fruits of the Spirit.
I kinda agree with you too
… except the part that your dear wife is burning incense to ancestors… which IMO is very risky. We all need to be very careful not to open doors/portals to demonic forces, which are very powerful and voluminous in our world today.
Hopefully she is not conversing with deceased ancestors. If so, 98% chance she is conversing with demons posing as deceased loved ones.
However, Catholics do pray for our deceased loved ones. Jews do too. Catholics also ask canonized saints to pray for us… but we are not conversing with them. Protestants take a dim view of this Catholic practice and view it as not biblical… even though it actually is biblical (Maccabees and other scripture passages/books).
Agree: “Do not judge people by their religious beliefs, judge them by their character and deeds.”
Disagree that there must be “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE” b/c that cliché is not constitutional. That has come to imply/mean that our religious beliefs have no place in society or how we want govt to treat people and function. We are only allowed to LIVE our religious beliefs in the confines of a church…and that is wrong. It requires that we deny who we are and what our values are. That was never what Jefferson meant. Even if he did, so what? Jefferson is not god who was correct about everything he said or wrote.
That was merely something Thomas Jefferson wrote in a letter to someone else. Somehow that cliché has been enshrined as a foundational principle.
The reason for Jeffersons statement/concern was because the Church of England-Anglican/Episcopal church was the official church of the American Colonies so if you were Baptist, Methodist, you were forced to pay tithes to the Anglican church.
Jefferson wanted NO official govt sanctioned church in the new USA… but he did not want to prohibit or minimize the Christian faith… The US was 99% Christian at its founding… and remained so for many decades, only recently has that dramatically changed.
But … the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is most definitely rooted in judeo-christian principles… most significantly … the principle of “FREE WILL” which is totally a unique Christian principle.
“We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Free will. And the State cannot take away that which it has no power to give in the 1st place… b/c these rights are bestowed upon us by God, not man.
Jefferson also included some of the political/ governance writings of St. Robert Bellarmine (a Jesuit priest) in these documents. Jefferson was also very anti-Catholic and wanted Catholics, especially Jesuits, to never be admitted to the US… but Jefferson knew Bellermine was right and wise so he did use his writings in our foundational documents.
Unlike Islam, you cannot force a person to accept Christ against his will b/c it does NOT count. We must freely – free will- accept Christ as our savior. Foundational principle.
Even the infamous Spanish Inquisition was about forcing (even torturing) people to admit they were NOT Catholic… so they could be thrown out of Spain. Spain was conquered by the Muslims for 100s of years. When they finally defeated the last Muslim stronghold (Grenada) they started the inquisition to remove everyone who wasn’t Catholic from the country. The pope even ordered the Spanish Catholics to cease and desist the inquisition. The Spanish totally ignored the pope, not unlike our own era and many others. Not surprising. The Spanish were likely pissed that western christendom never came to their rescue. Of course, the rest of western christendom was fighting off the Muslims from conquering their countries too.
Anyway, the Spanish at that time in history were a fierce people. They had to be to survive 100s of years of Muslim rule… and to reconquer Spain. Now they are weak again.
Kare-
(1) Separation of Church and State means that the Laws do not force people to choose a particular religion, it doesn’t preclude that the laws reflect a people’s beliefs. After all, murder and theft are illegal ( 10 Commandments any one ).
(2) The Judeo-Christian tradition (perhaps Zoroastrianism too? ) is based on the 10 commandments as a basic set of rules (Judaism) later the individuality of the human soul (European Enlightment) and last the unique relationship between God and the Individual (Luther) -although it could be made that having a monotheistic God is fundamental for such a relationship so both Catholicism and the Orthodox sects also share this quality of the individual.
Combine all three and you have a set of rules that underscored, for the first time in history, a Government that was meant to be for the People, not a People meant for the Government.
Notice that there was no enforcement of a given religion at all… the Judeo Christian tradition in our system of Governance has nothing to do with religion, but to a World View that reflected a set of beliefs from a group of Western Europeans that were fed up with being told what to do.
Being Christians, they naturally brought up the concept of God, but note that they kept somewhat generic… No “body of Christ”, “Trinity”, “blood of Christ”, “cross”… nothing like that. They were religious and believed in a Christian God but they didn’t put that in the Constitution.
Nonetheless, the basic laws in our nation reflect the 10 Commandments and the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence reflect the notion of the Individual and God Given rights that can not be usurped… The framers of the nation believed in such things. Not because they are Christian (Protestant) but because they had a set of Judeo Christian beliefs.
(3) A very common error made by people is to conflate Christianity with the Judeo Christian World View. Don’t do that, they are different.
(5) The comment about Jefferson insisting on Freedom of Religion is telling. He specifically didn’t want an Official State Religion.. at all! He wanted people to have whatever religion they wanted – so long as they weren’t breaking laws…. I guess he figured that Satanism, and the like, would be illegal so long as they went around making sacrifices… but notably by 1777 they didn’t want to go back to the Episode of Witch Burning. Recall that for that generation, the excesses of The King and the Church of England were still fresh… so were the “papist wars”.
(6) Anyhow, as an American-Spaniard I don’t hold Torquemada and his buddies very highly. They were political zealots. The spaniards are still strong, I don’t know where you heard otherwise. We just spent a month there.
(7) Last I heard, Shinto doesn’t do Demonic… My wife doesn’t talk to her ancestors more than I talk to mine.
Your knowledge of the Constitution’s first Amendment is sadly flawed. It did NOT outlaw State religions, it only barred the US Congress from creating one. There were State mandated religions into the 1830s. FACT! It wasn’t until the 14th Amendment that the 1st’s ban was officially extended to all the states.
Slavery was also legal in the US Constitution until 1860 or so…
I suggest you read the Bible with a little more comprehension and understanding of what is actually being stated. Hint, God doesn’t judge by a person’s character or deeds. Now for the countdown awaiting for your name calling, denigration and the such.
Repent!
There.
The bible was written, re-written, again and again (by Men).
It may have been rewritten by men but it can not take away from”your” understanding of it.
Superb answer!!!!
is that separation in our constitution? old old guy here could be wrong.
Not until the 14th Amendment. The 1st only banned Congress from creating/imposing a mandated religion. States retained the right to do so and some did into the 1830s.
what if he is a flat earther?
So long as he doesn’t write software for aircraft or satellites, he has the right to be a Flat Earther.
Come to think about it, it might be also an issue for those of us living on the Pacific Rim close to the Day Line.
You sound ignorant about the Catholic Church. Please, stop.
We are not a theocracy, nor do I want a Holy man in charge.
More important than the men… are their policies and principles.
Well actually, as a Catholic, I pretty much agree with you… although PDJT is not really a practicing Christian. He never was. We all know that and love him anyway.
God does choose people we would question, ie., King David, who sent Bathsheba’s husband to the front lines in war to die b/c David wanted Bathsheba. That’s a very serious sin.
JD Vance is a Christian. The degree to which he practices his faith is between him and God.
So, are you insinuating that your votes are predicated on religion?
Do you understand that you sound no better than an Ayatollah?
That’s how your post sounds, to me at least. Tell me I’m wrong.
So are you going to vote for a member of or supporter of CAIR?
Trump.
Sigh. Can we lay off the theist thread already? You’re implying if he doesn’t believe exactly as you do he must support CAIR. That’s ridiculous.
There was nothing in his statement that was Ayatollah-like. Not a bit.
No t to split hairs with you but there’s no such thing as a practicing Christian.
Either you are or you’re not.
There’s no middle ground at all.
Well… yes and no.
Yes.. I do agree with you.
No… The Christian sects do have protocols to follow… so you can be a Christian but not follow a particular sect.
The problem is when people who follow a particular sect expect that being a “practicing” Christian must include following the protocols of a particular “official” sect. Indeed, this seems to be an issue with ALL “official” religions.
The protocol is the Bible and many, a vast majority, of so-called Christian denominations chose to ignore it and supplant their own doctrinal bias.
THANK THE LORD, HALLELUJAH…WilC knows who’s good and bad …I knew Santa was real!
Good god Gerty!
Maybe your smirk of arrogance or ignorance (your choice) would be relieved by actually reading and comprehending what the Lord has to say about the state of so-called Christian Churches regarding their doctrine/teaching as it relates to salvation. Note the Lord does give an excellent big picture understanding about that relationship in Matthew 7:13-14.
“William Hindman’s” comment was directed at you, not God.
Salvation is a gift…unmerited favor – God does not renege on a promise
The Bible makes very clear what and who a Christian is.
A Christian is someone that is filled with the Holy Ghost and there is NO exceptions to this.
In fact, Paul, very specifically stated that, without the Spirit of Christ, you are none of his!
Romans 8:9 Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost, ( and is still being poured out ) while they were in Jerusalem in an upper room, praying.
When they received it, they ALL spoke with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
If you have not had this experience and received the Spirit, then you are not a Christian, regardless of what sect, domination, non denomination, you claim to be.
The very word Christian means to be Christ like!
It’s impossible to be Christ like without the actual Spirit within you that makes you Christ like!
Whatever… go for it, enjoy it.
I’m voting for Trump… for the 6th time.
Also, I love drinking good wine, beer and bourbon.
Nothing in my religious upbringing force intolerance towards alcohol.
Just don’t tell me what a Christian is.
Oh, it’s not “the Bible”… it’s the New Testament.
Not even the “new testament” …Constantine convened a gathering to pick and choose which books of the bible were approved and threw out many others that didn’t fit the then current accepted dogma.
Constantine, a converted pagan, determined what was and was not “the word of god.” FACT
Inconvenient, I know, but its recorded history.
Just don’t get it do you. The Bible was written by God …God inspired…No Man will decide which parts are included and which aren’t…God does.
Sorry Bill but it’s your choice to keep entering at the straight gate by spreading your doctrinal tripe. So an enlightened pagan takes precedence over the Lord’s chosen Apostles.
Listening to you has one great upside. I’m re-thinking my fear of Hell.
The Bible is the Book of Jesus Christ. The Old and New Testament are complimentary/complete and not standalone entities to be parsed.
Rather, a child of God is Baptized, sealed, indwelled and regenerated (born again). The filling ministry of the Holy Spirit is “grieved” or “quenched” by sin in the life of the Christian. The remedy for sin in the believer, “confession” as seen in 1John 1:9. Two other thoughts, the consequences of sin is not part of the remedy rather fellowship or filling of the Holy Spirit. Lastly, the solution to the nation’s problems is not political rather, it is spiritual.
Aren’t there 7 gifts of The Holy Spirit of which speaking in tongues is just one? Not everyone receives all 7 correct?
God the trinity….is not a religion….The “church” his church embodies people of one mind set and belief.
…just another Ayatollah in waiting.
I worship only God the creator. There is nothing before, or after God.
america is getting her president back.
Biden tells us we need to tone down our rhetoric
“Not when he (Trump) hadn’t been challenged in a way that he’s about to be challenged.”,… Joe Biden told George Stephanopoulos this on 7/5/’24,… just 8 days before an assassination attempt was made on Donald Trump.
Exactly
And don’t forget the target remark… it was 5 days before the attempt.
Thank you. I have been trying to remember that remark. When I first read that he said it – I never listen to the demon – I thought “that’s and odd thing to say”…
JOe says it was a mistake to say this…… No kidding cause now we know the truth.
Yep, this time Trump has a better adVancetage.
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I do Not trust Vance.
It is not going to stop me from
voting for President Trump.
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MAGA
Breitbart interview with JD Vance
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/06/29/exclusive-marlow-sits-down-with-j-d-vance-talks-critical-race-theory-the-corporate-oligopoly-funding-maga-country/
From 2021
He has a good take on the egregiously negative impact of multinational corporate cartels
Pence, Sessions, Barr, Vance. I hope Trump’s picks have improved over four years.
I’m disappointed, very, because this also give JV a golden on-ramp to the presidency in ’28.
But it is what it is. We must pray and work for victory.
Hey , it wasn’t Tim Scott.
Exactly. As far as I’m concerned, Vance is 100x better than Pence.
Thanks for that reminder.
Doug B. never floated my boat either.
There will be at least some lemonade. May it not be spoiled or poisoned.
Hallelujah it wasn’t Tim Scott! wonder how long its going to take for him to ditch his “fiancee” like Corey Booker did. Such a shuck and jive fraud is he.
It also gives MAGA three years to test him in the fires. If he burns, MAGA will evict him.
DJ & JD
I think we’re allowed to have a wary eye on Vance, but nobody here should ever doubt voting President Trump this November!
Trump 2024. I thought JD Vance loathed Trump at one time. Said he became a believer…and I am sad because I fear the IC and I am all for tariffs. Lots and lots of tariffs.
We must repeal the 16th Amendment, and hopefully the 17th. We are enslaved to a tax system that is impoverishing our people, and turning us into a debtor nation.
Tariffs and other excise taxes suatained us for decades, although the North used them to impoverished the South, and fostered the Civil War.
this AIN’T reagan, reagan, bush. You don’t get 12 yrs. vance DOESN’T have the numbers / margins for 28.
Who is JD Vance? Short wsj video.
JD Vance’s new plane…
From Revolver news https://revolver.news/2024/03/trumps-secret-weapon-senator-jd-vance-vp/
Just a few key points. JD Vance is against our involvement in Ukraine, Mitch McConnel does not like him, and he doesn’t give up.
“The Ohio Senate job is the first office he ever ran for. The competition for it was intense, with six viable candidates at one point or another. Just like the 2016 presidential primary, it was a bitter, multi-sided race. In the first poll with Vance as a candidate, he polled at 2% support. Mitch McConnell did everything he could to stop him. The Club for Growth spent millions of dollars trying to derail his rise. Yet they all failed, and with a boost from Trump himself, Vance climbed his way from minor candidate, to contender, to nominee, to U.S. Senator.”
Trumps real apprentice?
That would be wonderful.
I was hoping that Trump might choose Devin Nunes, but was greatly encouraged to hear Vance state in a recent brief interview that he is against our involvement in the Ukraine. The absolute best thing about Trump is that he is against all of the foreign wars which the neocons have involved us in for the past 60 years. I’m praying that Vance is in lockstep with Trump on his other policies as well.
J.D. Vance has all the right enemies to be a great V.P.
nope.
Yep.
Double Yep
nope. talk to me in 4 yrs.
Ok. See you then.
Hmmm….No one can be likened to John Adams. Sorry.
nope.
Noted already, jeeeze
Yep.
Yep!
I’m glad it is Vance. Thank God it wasn’t Tim Scott. Ugh. I wanted it to be Ben Carson, but according to Ben he slipped up the other day and said Trump asked him to be head of something else.
I accepted SD’s critical assessment of Vance, written here a day or two ago, and I concurred with his now prescient questioning of PDJT’s decision/gaming skills should Vance be chosen.
Like everyone else here, I don’t know what I don’t know about the decision. My faith in Divine Providence, mightily reinforced by the failed assassination attempt, compels me to believe that Vance will not be a terrible mistake.
I remain fiercely loyal to PDJT and a continuing prayer warrior fervently advocating for his and our nation’s safety and well being.
Trump’s the one I’m voting for; otherwise, Vance is a relative unknown, so let him have his chance; if he mucks it up, President Trump can isolate him, assign him to police the White House grounds.
Before going crazy, always remember one thing about DJT. Those that he chooses to work along side of him to advance his policies have a specific needed skill set to perform a specific objective. DJT is the controller and he does not let the workers go outside their lanes and screw things up. Remember the base of his success during his first administration were economic policies that were somewhat independent of legislative actions by the RINOs/uni-party. And each member of the economic team was chosen for one or two specific skill sets unique to the individual. In fact I recall one televised moment where he actually contradicted and corrected a member of the economic team because what was stated was not inline with the desired outcome.
Please quit the dribble.
Pence, Barr, Scaramucci, Wray, Sessions, Kelly, Mattis, Wray, McTurtle, Haley….
NO
YES
I see it as a more symbolic pick. A guy from a poor background. Patriot. Rose up from nothing. Anti establishment.
Having a guy who was at one time a never Trumper gives him credibility with all the others who once had doubts. Makes Trump a uniter.
Plus, all the right people don’t like him.
His life story is a distant second concern, what matters is his principles. I’m not sure he has any firm principles.
Your concern is duly noted
Your vapidness is duly noted.
Who is JD Vance former never Trumper?
He was far from my first choice…
I do love when a person has an open mind and heart, and one who can admit of mistakes from the past.
This points it all out… from Laura Loomer:
“Given the attempted assassination of President Trump this week, I want to take a moment to address the JD Vance oppo head on with the hopes that people will see JD’s past remarks and his current record as symbolic of what President Trump is trying to accomplish after his near death experience:
UNITY
Yes, @JDVance1 did say terrible things about President Trump and he didn’t vote for Trump in 2016.
He called Trump Hitler and called Trump supporters idiots.
Half the country has done the same and we want to convince those people to vote for Trump in 2024 because we need to heal the nation with TRUTH.
JD was a Trump hater blinded by the lies about President Trump, but JD came to his senses and is now a fierce Trump advocate.
I have personally gotten to know JD Vance and had him on my show and I can say he is the real deal.
Being a leader means admitting when you are wrong. I asked JD privately once how MAGA could trust him given his previous remarks. He didn’t deny what he said, but rather embraced that he was wrong and said he has come to see Donald Trump as the best leader for our nation.
I’m a zero bullshit person and so I was very grateful JD owned it when I asked him and I believe him when he says he’s a true Trump ally.
As a Senator, JD Vance has proven himself to be one of the few GOP Senators to show up for President Trump when it matters. When Democrats tried taking Trump off the ballot in Colorado, JD was 1 of 3 GOP senators to show up outside of SCOTUS to support Trump. @LoomerUnleashed caught it on camera and that day, JD earned my respect for doing what none of his colleagues wanted to do: SHOW UP.
It took a former Trump hater to fight for Trump in front of SCOTUS, but GOP Senators who claimed to be with Trump since 2016 didn’t even show up.
That really touches me.
JD Vance will never be able to erase the nasty things he said about Donald Trump in the past, but his actions in the Senate have shown that he is a true Trump advocate and ally.
My hope is that all of the Trump haters who have now seen the light can come together with the Trump loyalists so we can UNIFY our country.
I don’t like a lot of what JD has said in the past, but I know he has seen the light and he’s been fighting hard for President Trump.
As someone who often ATTACKS ATTACKS ATTACKS Trump’s critics, I am going to look past all of JD’s previous remarks and do all I can to help support the Trump-Vance ticket for the sake of UNITY.
I think picking a VP who was once a Trump hater is actually symbolic of President Trump’s mission to UNITE AMERICA.
JD Vance has my support.
I won’t forget what he has said about President Trump, but I am going to support him because he has admitted he was wrong about Trump and that’s the best we can do. We can admit when we are wrong and strive to do better.
I think the campaign should use this messaging as well. What better way to unite the country than to have a former Trump hater on the ticket with Trump as a fierce defender?
I actually think it’s a beautiful thing to see JD’s political transformation over the last 8 years and my hope is that the country can transform as well.
I hope those of you who are attacking JD Vance can join me in looking forward to the future and giving the Senator full support as he campaigns with President Trump.
If I can do it, you can do it!
UNITE AMERICA!
TRUMP VANCE 2024!
#TrumpVance2024”
This confirms my thoughts on JD Vance. He was honest enough to see that he was dead wrong about Trump. So much so that he came out in defense of Trump once he saw who Trump truly is and not what the MSM and the Rinos all said about Trump. I will still watch him like a hawk though.
Was he? I remember Ron DeSantis pretending to be MAGA and a Trump supporter to get elected. Remember the commercial where he’s talking about MAGA to his baby? We know how that turned out.
Do you actually think Libs and Dems want to Heal??? I DON’T.
Laura disappointed me with this. I supported her for about a year now as she has done some really strong research and uncovered a LOT of stuff including Judge Merchan. I have watched her “dig” into backgrounds, bring receipts, and do very indepth research on all types of thing. I have not seen a single solitary bit of research or digging on JD. She always always does her research with people who are close to DJT. Fiercely loyal she says. She has not done one article, one research piece on JD. The freaking VP?? After what happened with Pence? NOTHING??? I guess he has zero skeletons. He has completely changed. Good heart. Trust her and him. Sorry, something doesn’t smell right to me..
In four, five, six years what will he say then? “I was wrong about Trump in 2024”? Anyone who considers voting for HRC, as he did, can not be trusted.
Methinks there’s way too much protesting in these comments. If you have to try that hard to convince, well, you’re not doing a great job. Actually, not even a good one.
Sorry with no disrespect to you. You’re the same type of person that would’ve been in McCarthy‘s corner and Romney also.
If a Christian man repents, admits he is wrong, and tries in all honestly to sin no more. He is forgiven of his sins.
President Trump made a good choice.
😁
National Review has just come out angry about the Vance pick… how bad could he be?
Another vote of confidence, just like Karl Rove being upset about it.
https://x.com/SavvymanWyo/status/1812956208602706027
That’s pretty funny!
Nothing wrong with cats. My cats have been more faithful than my Ex-wife ever was.
My like is complete now, knowing what that dope thinks.
PT is from a generation that respects the prestige of elite school names like “Yale”. The deference is built in.
Nowadays, a growing number of people consider that an instant disqualification and would never hire someone from Yale. Yale on the resume = trash bin.
A wife linked to China and opposing philosophy seems like a red-flag to us, but again PT is from a generation that doesn’t see their wives as influential in that way. Just a curious hobby, like wives have.
And people can pick the wrong side especially when they are young, so if they switch sides as they get older, that’s understandable.
Guessing at the thinking, but seems to be.
Dr. Ben Carson is also a Yale grad.
Vance openly supports tariffs. He’s fully aligned with Trump on that issue, so he’d have to do a 180 to be suddenly against them. Thiel and those guys aren’t concerned about the proposed tariffs. Thiel supported the tariffs in the last Trump administration. He doesn’t think trade should not be asymmetrical and tariffs can fix imbalances.
I had a feeling. That Biden hit and the sudden media flip made me suspect Trump had cut a deal with the oligarchs. He made them go first, which is noteworthy. They always like their pigeons to go first, but Trump held out.
I think they guaranteed Trump the WH with that Biden hit, and the timing of it. Probably why an enraged IC/MIC/State tried to assassinate him 48 hours ago. They were insane that they got caught unawares, and were betrayed so badly. So they ordered DHS to hit Trump, and put a shooter in his lap. And that’s just what DHS did.
The bargain is concluded. The WH for VP Vance. It’s actually a better deal than 2016, when Hillary was still viable, but we still got stuck with that Pence swine.
Anyone who chooses to abandon President Trump over a bucket of warm pi$$ probably isn’t MAGA in the first place…
That’s certainly an interesting way to put it!
I don’t believe anyone is going
to abandon President Trump.
I certainly am not.
But am I doing the JD Vance
hoooray..jumping
up and down with joy …party 🎉
celebration …….nope.
I will vote for President Trump,
even though I do not like his VP.
Right now….just put me down as
unenthusiastic. 🤷♀️💁
Time to buck up and trim your sail for maximum efficiency and speed, 4gypsybreeze!
It’s up to Trump, Vance and us to set the Republic on the correct, true and just course!!
For anyone who missed the historical reference: quoting John Nance Garner, VP for FDR, describing his office as, “not worth a bucket of warm piss.”
Quote is often tempered to “warm spit.”
trump STILL hasn’t learn HOW TO PLAY POLITICS, huh?
The world will be so relieved when your name is on the ballot.
What’s the hold up?
Zinggggger!!
Fact of the matter is that moneyed interests control politics and are the only ones whose wishes are routinely represented. As most moneyed interests are compromised via blackmail or special access permission by the security state, the security state controls politics. While anything is possible, Vance becoming pro-MAGA at the exact same time his homosexual sugar daddy Theil became an instrument for the FBI and security state to shape the American right should set off your alarm bells. The whole paypal group should do the same. Keep your eyes wide open and head on a swivel.
I’m no big brain, but it was obvious by who else was running in 2016 that there was no other choice than to back Trump, even if it was a lark. Couldn’t be worse than any of the Rino’s.
My fat gut is sitting on a fence with this.
JD’s business partner is married to Elaine Chao’s sister (Mitch McConnell’s wife). I smell deep state
Link?
JD Vance gives me Pence vibes.
If Vance were MAGA he wouldn’t have to be sold to the base. In fact he’s being oversold, which tells a great deal. And by oversold I mean it’s being put across as if he’s some based ultra-maga guy, and he’s not. He’s a johnny-come-lately.
I’m voting for Trump,not Vance. I don’t like it but I’ll take it, although the overselling only increases my suspicions.
FUABAR
I’m a born cynic and Vance wasn’t my first pick but after hearing the pick first thing that came to mind was Acts 9.
If Saul can become Paul I’m pretty sure a never Trumper can become a loyal follower of President Trump and a good servant of we the people.
Know what? Saul was basically a psychopath. I acknowledge his conversion. I believe God works miracles. I believe final judgment is God’s alone. But in the meantime, transient judgments must be made. Vance is on probation. I’ll believe conversion and miracles if the guy proves it. So far, no.
Trump said there would be surprises and hes right again. I am surprised.. Surprised hes still this foolish on who to trust. Unless he plans on firing Vance after hes elected, he should have went completely outside the box.
The only other person I’d trust is Ron Johnson, but he’d be too old to run in 2028. And I think he hates politics.
amazon.com
June 28, 2016
Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis
Hardcover – by J. D. Vance (Author)
4.3 4.3 out of 5 stars 96,094 ratings
#1 Best Seller in Sociology of Rural Areas
THE #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER IS NOW A MAJOR-MOTION PICTURE DIRECTED BY RON HOWARD AND STARRING AMY ADAMS, GLENN CLOSE, AND GABRIEL BASSO
“You will not read a more important book about America this year.”—The Economist
“A riveting book.”—The Wall Street Journal
“Essential reading.”—David Brooks, New York Times
From a former marine and Yale Law School graduate, a powerful account of growing up in a poor Rust Belt town that offers a broader, probing look at the struggles of America’s white working class
Hillbilly Elegy is a passionate and personal analysis of a culture in crisis—that of white working-class Americans. The decline of this group, a demographic of our country that has been slowly disintegrating over forty years, has been reported on with growing frequency and alarm, but has never before been written about as searingly from the inside. J. D. Vance tells the true story of what a social, regional, and class decline feels like when you were born with it hung around your neck.
The Vance family story begins hopefully in postwar America. J. D.’s grandparents were “dirt poor and in love,” and moved north from Kentucky’s Appalachia region to Ohio in the hopes of escaping the dreadful poverty around them. They raised a middle-class family, and eventually their grandchild (the author) would graduate from Yale Law School, a conventional marker of their success in achieving generational upward mobility.
But as the family saga of Hillbilly Elegy plays out, we learn that this is only the short, superficial version. Vance’s grandparents, aunt, uncle, sister, and, most of all, his mother, struggled profoundly with the demands of their new middle-class life, and were never able to fully escape the legacy of abuse, alcoholism, poverty, and trauma so characteristic of their part of America. Vance piercingly shows how he himself still carries around the demons of their chaotic family history.
A deeply moving memoir with its share of humor and vividly colorful figures, Hillbilly Elegy is the story of how upward mobility really feels. And it is an urgent and troubling meditation on the loss of the American dream for a large segment of this country.
JD Vance was a public affairs officer in the Marines in Iraq- Just like DeSantis was a JAG.
At the end of the day, I’m completely against JD Vance, but it was not my choice. It was President Trump’s.
I’m not voting for Vance I’m voting for Trump.
I just have to believe that this is all in God’s hands just like the bullet that missed him by mirror centimeters.
Honestly, I’m so confused by his VP pick, as I think he let the snake in. He’s a never Trumper and thinking all those RINOs will unify is a fantasy. That said, we support President Trump and hope that he knows much more than is evident to all of MAGA. Will flies land on Vance during his debate with Kamala?
Yes they will land, and lay baby maggots on him.
The debate(s) between Vance and Harris will be a thing of beauty.
Don’t forget, Kamala may not be there.
Amen and Amen.
For now, we must not fight among ourselve.
We must Fight, Fight, Fight Biden/Harris and the Deep State.
JDV will have a voice but its from the bottom of a bucket of warm spit.
Might be a good place to store him.
Meanwhile, I think we can always count on him as a tiebreaker.
All Good.