It’s really not a matter of if Republican senators will leave the party in the lame duck session after a President Trump win in November; the question is: how many?
The predictability of the issue is actually quite simple. {GO DEEP} Almost all senators kneel at the altar of money, nothing else. The GOPe senators will exhaust every weapon in their arsenal on behalf of their multinational financial benefactors, prior to the November 2024 election. Once those narrative attack weapons are exhausted, they will take the deal and quit the party in their final political effort to retain affluence.
Accepting this reality, I asked the question a few weeks ago. The largest number of respondents said 1 to 3 senators will resign the party.
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Lisa Murkowski switching parties is a no brainer. Susan Collins and Todd Young are two more possibilities. Mitt Romney has already announced he is leaving. Mitch McConnell has already announced he is stepping down from leadership and will not seek another term. A tenuous John Thune will only remain if he replaces McConnell. …. and so it goes.
I would bet on THREE Republican senators who will switch parties, but it could easily be more.
One thing is certain, those who do not switch/exit will remain as DeceptiCons and oppose: (a) any effort to confront the intelligence community they support; and (b) all Trump nominations, foreign or domestic policy, that threaten their place at the trough.
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(Via CNN) – […] “I wish that as Republicans, we had … a nominee that I could get behind,” Murkowski told CNN. “I certainly can’t get behind Donald Trump.”
The party’s shift toward Trump has caused Murkowski to consider her future within the GOP. In the interview, she would not say if she would remain a Republican.
Asked if she would become an independent, Murkowski said: “Oh, I think I’m very independent minded.” And she added: “I just regret that our party is seemingly becoming a party of Donald Trump.”
Pressed on if that meant she might become an independent, Murkowski said: “I am navigating my way through some very interesting political times. Let’s just leave it at that.”
Murkowski hasn’t always been on the outs within her party. Appointed in 2002 by her father, Gov. Frank Murkowski, the senator’s politics were in line with the president at the time – George W. Bush – as she maintained a tight relationship with the senior GOP senator from her state, Ted Stevens, who helped build Alaska through federal dollars he funneled back home. (read more)
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Senators Ken Buck, the other forgettable, and Lisa Murkowski are following the money as Sundance pointed out, and their animas is personal. They hate Donald J. Trump, and are willing to hurt MAGA as a result.
“Make America Great Again” was Donald J. Trump’s campaign slogan, and he delivered the good in more meaningful ways than can easily be cited in brief. Energy independence as net exporters of energy versus importers. Both Black and Latino unemployment rates at their lowest numbers is half a century. Inflation at the lowest point in an equally long period. No WARS!
What these Senators are saying to we the people is that we would rather you suffer under the fascistic Social/Democrat Party than have liberty, freedom, and the right to live your lives as you believe you should.
These reprobates are nothing more than money grubbing selfish, pompous, pawns!
RSV Proverbs 24:1-2 “Be not envious of evil men, nor desire to be with them; 2 for their minds devise violence, and their lips talk of mischief.”
Ken Buck is a Congressman, not a Senator.
Thank you for the correction.
There are two chambers of congress, the house and the senate.
Great post.
So the House switches back to Democrat and they vote to declare PDJT is an insurrectionist in May. What happens then?
See my comments here.
Lots of tar and feathers.
Remember the Gov can appoint her replacement, likely Kelly Tshibaka who handily defeated Lisa in the 2022 Primary.
It’s a small beginning, but the SWAMP is starting to be drained!
A bright light is shining on the RINOs, and they know it.
She got this seat originally because of her family and has done nothing but stab Alaskans and Americans in the back since she was first elected. She is a Fifth Column just like Mitch that little _ _ _ _ _ (its Holy Week) McConnell and should be booted out of the party. Don’t wait for her, or bide her threats. Boot her out then lean on Alaskans to push her into retirement – in Hawaii!
If the RINO traitors can’t beat WeThePeople and our Patriot President Donald Trump … they’ll make their RAT support official and join the America-hating demonRAT Party … good riddance !!!
Tim Scott endorsed Murkowski over Tshibaka. Surprisingly enough, Timmy is rumored to be on the VP short list.
The RINOs will not be gotten rid of any more than the swamp will get drained.
Scott is another GOPe type. Just can’t wait to get to the trough. If Trump selects him for VP I’ll write in DeSantis.
Bradk77: “So the House switches back to Democrat and they vote to declare PDJT is an insurrectionist in May. What happens then?”
This is what I said about this topic in an earlier comment from yesterday:
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Here is what I think the RINOs and UniParty Republicans are up to in their quest to keep Donald Trump out of the White House and to deal a fatal blow to the MAGA movement.
More of these RINOs will resign from the House of Representatives before the spring of 2024 is out with the goal of giving control of the House to the Democrats in the months before the summer 2024 Republican national convention is held.
As soon as they are back in the majority, the Democrats will quickly pass legislation which augments the 14th Amendment in ways which have the effect of categorizing their January 6th allegations against President Trump as ‘insurrection’ under the wording of the amendment. They will also pass legislation which directly targets the election integrity efforts now being pursued in a number of states.
By passing this legislation, they will be sending a message to the Republican Party that nominating Donald Trump is a non-starter because it will be impossible for him to be sworn in as president. Election authorities in blue states will announce that in accordance with the new legislation, they will not allow his name to appear on the November ballot and will not accept any write-in ballots with his name.
The Democrat’s legislation will certainly be challenged in the courts. But some bit of time would be necessary for the courts to make a ruling on its constitutionality. In the meantime, the Democrat’s will not only be sending a message, they will also be sowing as much chaos and discord among the Republicans as possible.
In this scenario, RINO Republicans will issue their own warning before the convention that they will not support Donald Trump for the nomination; and further, that if he is in fact nominated in the face of the new legislation, they will either sit out the 2024 election or even go so far as to support Joe Biden.
We can be sure that every RINO/UniParty Republican who participates in this scheme will be handsomely rewarded. Most of these people are already thoroughly corrupt, so it won’t be any surprise if they continue to betray the constituencies that elected them, doing so in bigger and better ways.
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IMHO, if this scenario plays out in the way I’ve described it — and assuming the national convention does nominate Donald Trump in the face of this very real and very brutal attack on American democracy — then many if not most of the RINO Republicans now in the Congress will simply leave the party.
If a miracle happens and Donald Trump somehow manages to overcome the massive vote fraud which will be happening in the 2024 general election, a House of Representatives controlled by Democrats will not certify the election when it convenes in early January, 2025.
And if Donald Trump manages to overcome that phase of the constitutional crisis and is inaugurated as President anyway, the House will immediately impeach him and the Senate will quickly convict, removing him from office within a few weeks of his inauguration, if not sooner.
Once they control the House of Representatives, will the Democrats make their promise not to allow Donald Trump to become president if he is elected in November 2024 be openly acknowledged by their Speaker of the House, and possibly be publicly embraced by Joe Biden’s campaign as a means of intimidating the MAGA movement’s voter constituency?
Well, the Democrats have already said that if Trump is the winner in November 2024, they will not certify the 2024 election if they control the House in January 2025. They have every good reason to state further that if they have the votes in the Senate needed to convict Donald Trump after a vote of impeachment in the House, they will do so.
It’s been my opinion for three years now that the Deep State, the Democrats, and the UniParty RINO Republicans have had a plan since late January of 2021 to use the FedSurrection events of January 6th, 2021, as their mother of all MAGA prevention insurance policies. We should not be surprised if the full dimensions of this plan aren’t on full display even before the Republican national convention convenes in the summer of 2024.
Great post, only one problem it appears Trump will win in a landslide. Should the Dems attempt such a stupid move they are inviting a civil war. A storm is coming. I don’t know about you but I spent 30 years overseas experiencing tinpot dictatorships, communist paradises, a diversity wonderlands. If they want a civil war I say bring it on.
IMHO, the presidential election will be close thing assuming that most of the fraudulent ballots are still being counted, just as happened in 2020 and 2022. In any case, if Donald Trump, his 2024 campaign team, and we in the MAGA movement do manage to overcome the massive election fraud which is coming our way — something which is not a sure thing at this point — it is clearly evident the corrupt DC Swampers and the globalist puppet masters who control the DC Swampers will risk a civil war to keep themselves in power.
then let them do that and see what we do in return
Kustie The Klown: “Then let them do that and see what we do in return.”
Let’s assume for purposes of discussion that the Democrats are in control of Congress in early January of 2025, but that Donald Trump has won a clear victory in the November 2024 election, overcoming the massive election fraud which the Democrats and their UniParty allies had perpetrated in the course of that election.
Let’s assume as well that the election integrity efforts pursued by MAGA volunteers had not quite succeeded in preventing the House of Representatives and the Senate races from being stolen. And so the House refuses to certify the 2024 election results.
That particular course of events spawns another question:
Who will be president if the election’s outcome has not been certified by the House of Representatives? Will Joe Biden remain as president after January 20th, 2025, if the court challenges haven’t been settled by then? Or will the Speaker of the House, a Democrat, become interim president after January 20th, 2025?
How long would that ‘interim’ presidency last? A year? Two years until the next Congressional election cycle is over? Forever, because the constitutional republic of our founding fathers has been effectively replaced by a parliamentary form of government dominated and controlled by the Democrats?
If what you say is true and becomes true, then we will lose the country (with civil war being a symptom). Perhaps we have already lost the country. I am preparing for the eventuality, although none of us can see the future. May God help us, forgive us, and have mercy upon us.
That is without a doubt the doomiest gloomiest most concern diatribe of the day.
You are forgetting one thing. Most of these so called representatives have committed treason and the military knows it. Do you actually think they will not be rounding them up once Trump wins the election? What did Obama do during the lame duck period. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
The people in the impacted states know what they are voting for. They deserve to get it, good and hard.
Her father Frank Murkowski literally “gave” his senate seat to his daughter Lisa after resigning to become Governor. For his entire career Murkowski had a firm clench on Alaskan oil and economic development control. As long as her father was alive Lisa was a shoe in. It’s believe Murkowski influence is how Alaska adopted Ranked Choice voting which kept Lisa in office despite not having majority of votes. Then next term Kelly Tshibaka handily primaried Murkowski and then as a “write in” candidate automagically won the election by a combination of Ranked Choice vote tabulation and Mitch McConnel swinging his bag of coins around Alaska. Now that Mitch will soon be gone, this witch threatens switching to Independent. This is just another dynasty keeping economic/financial control and another reason sitting politicians cannot run for a different elected office until their term is complete. The Uniparty is dirty, corrupt and antithetical to the US Constitution and the People.
Thanks for that rank choice voting for losing great R. candidates. Disgusting
The Democrats’ seizing opportunities to have post-election House and Senate majorities appear to be the most likely and most effective methods of restraining the influence of a victorious PDJT. Holding the powers of appropriations and required Senate confirmation of many presidential appointees, President Trump’s legislative and organizational reform initiatives could be easily limited.
More specifically, the ease of appointing conservatives to federal judgeships and to the SCOTUS can be greatly impaired or denied by the Senate.
In the aggregate, the outcomes of down-ballot races approach the same level of significance as the presidential vote.
To the point of this commentary by SD, I anticipate that a reliably favorable Republican Senate majority will have to be a minimum of five, which may be wishful thinking.
If anybody remembers in way back machine, back in the Eric Cantor/tea party days, the house republicans played this same game.
Retire out. Purposely leave ‘the party’ or make majority weaker.
I always wondered from whom and how much was paid to allow jerks to throw themselves down on a sword to betray their Country.
Seen this game before.
Unfortunately.
Not shocked.
The Republicans will lose the house, no, not lose, give it away before October. Then the Democratic Party will seal the deal with legislation and prosecutions to create a one-party state. It won’t matter if every eligible and ineligible voter in the country votes for TRUMP, he won’t win. Why? Because every one involved in the coup since before he was elected the first time is still in place. The traitors in the FBI, CIA, DOJ, State, and Pentagon; not to mention the legislators and judiciary of unfriendly municipalities who ignored election law and covered-up their crimes. At this point, the body politic is only pretending to to be a Democratic Republic. It’s an administrative state and what comes next is the
If the Republicans couldn’t guard the country from being “fundamentally changed” when they had the house, the senate, and the presidency, why think that anything be done to stop this runaway train to totalitarianism?
Get on your knees and pray to Almighty God for a miracle because the help we need isn’t coming from a man.
Go, Hag, go!!!
I wonder what it’s like to be evil; to know you’re evil, and to revel in it. To go through life with contempt for all your fellow humans and to do nothing for anybody but yourself, ever. For Murkowski it is the grift and the graft, the gifts and the cash. So much wonder, beauty and reward in this life and she will know none of it. Only counting her money day after day until Satan takes her home. May it be soon.
What you really mean, Senator Murkowski, is that you cannot get behind America and our liberty.
What’s the point anymore – these establishment Republicans seem to be all bought and paid for.
What is critical is that the Latin be replaced with a Gorsuch type. These establishment Republicans are willing to toss that in the wind also with their hissy fit.
There will need to be a concerted effort to defund the turncoats states.
Before getting worked up in a tizzy at the Alaska Republicans, perhaps one should consider the role of electronic election rigging in Alaska.
What if primaries have been rigged for years? (all machine voting, including optical scan CAN be manipulated)
What if RNC not only has full knowledge but is an avid participant, utilizing it to quash “tea party” types?
What if “machine voting” is the “Holy Grail” to GOPe, to be protected at all costs as it counterbalances the Democrat “ground game” (ballot trafficking)?
Conservatives who still trust electronic voting deserve every loss they sustain. The evidence is EVERYWHERE.
Unless or until Republicans reject electronic voting (including optical scan) en masse, the GOPe will continue to manipulate primary outcomes against their own constituents.
Blame Alaska Republicans for accepting the outcomes of electronic vote manipulation?
Absolutely!
But don’t leave out every other Republican in every other state for the exact same thing.
It looks like some red States are gonna need to have a red wave of recalls of these vermin before they have a chance to switch party’s and screw Trumps chances at a majority. They are easy for the locals to find.
And they accused Trump of not wanting to give up power! Democrats never want to give up power!
“Threatens” to leave? Gosh, just love threats from hypocrites.
Allow me to hold the door open so this sycophant can make a rapid exit to MSNBC or another smarmy outfit.
She’s going to bail from Republicans in the Senate if and only if that means her seat tips control towards the Democrats. Or she’ll pull a Bernie and pretend to be an independent while caucusing with them.
I assume the particulars have already been worked out and agreed upon by her globalist masters.
Most Senate seats are up for bid.
These long-term members of the BLOB (aka “Deep State,” feel threatened by anyone who represents the real interests of the majority of Americans.
This is the GOPe coup d’état against true Republicans
It’s uncomfortable to get rid of a malignancy, but it must be done. I suspect the drip by drip character of the GOP exodus might have been planned to give this lady (I use the term with great trepidation) the power the RINO party needs.