Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz and former Department of Defense Chief of Staff Kash Patel discuss President Donald Trump’s criminal case, the J6 targeting and the use of FISA-702 to conduct political surveillance.
I am prompting the video to 02:20 to focus one aspect of the interview on the Republican led FISA-702 reauthorization and extension. I agree with almost everything Mr Patel says about the ramifications of the GOPe House, led by HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner, and the FISA extension. However, there is also an aspect that 99% of everyone misses, and within that dynamic we become victims to our own willful blindness. First, watch the segment on FISA-702 (prompted):
OK, do you hear Patel discussing the horrible decision-making by the republican controlled House as it pertains to FISA-702 extensions.
Everyone agrees the version of the House authorization by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) is the worst possible outcome; it expands 702 abuse by expanding the surveillance authority. That reality is factually accurate and correct.
So, reconcile this:
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Wait, what?
If the 702-reauthorization bill that passed the HPSCI committee vote is as bad as Patel and everyone says it is (which it is); and if the bill completely ignores the reforms that were suggested and advocated for by Patel and Nunes (which it does); then how does Kash Patel reconcile his boss Devin Nunes supporting the bill per Mike Turner?
The reconciliation is found inside the issue I have recently written about.
Mike Turner is lying about the support from John Ratcliffe and Devin Nunes for the HPSCI FISA-702 reauthorization bill. Ratcliffe and Nunes do not support the Turner construct.
But wait, if that is true (which it is), then why are Ratcliffe, Nunes, and by extension Patel, silent about Turner’s false support claims?
The answer…. Institutional preservation of the HPSCI compartment, and a desire for access therein.
Yes, that is correct. They will rage against the outcome of the institutional endeavor, but only so far as the value of the institution itself must be maintained. Ratcliffe, Nunes and yes, Kash Patel are functionaries of the system. Their sense of identity is dependent on the system.
The CIA director, NSA director, ODNI, FBI Director, etc are not in charge of the compartments they represent. They are simply functionaries -middle men- who operate in the space between where the compass points are directed, where the data originates, and oversight of that data that is ultimately filtered and delivered to the functionaries, who then brief the representatives…. who then create policy… albeit flawed policy…. based on a very specific, controlled, compartmented and skewed information flow. (more)
The value of Kash Patel’s institutional currency is connected to his access, even with Republicans in charge. The same is true for Nunes and Ratcliffe.
The institutional leadership, those functionaries in control of the compartment (silo), can block access to the silo thereby devaluing the career currency of other functionaries. The DC preservation system is contingent upon this process being retained.
Nunes, Ratcliffe and Patel will not speak honestly about the Mike Turner outcome, specifically as it relates to the conniving manipulation therein (ie. it’s a f**king lie), because they would run the risk of being ostracized from the HPSCI compartment – from which their value is determined.
The institutional corruption is retained, yet they rail against the outcome of the institutional corruption. See the game?
If this were not the case, Mike Turner would be directly confronted, the lies and manipulations exposed, and a very serious battle would take place publicly.
Unfortunately, that public battle is viewed as too risky. As a result, the corrupt DC functionaries operate without any accountability, no corrective action takes place, no accountability is metered out, and WORSE…. the oblivious general public cheer on the people like Patel who give the illusion they are railing against corruption.
For those who choose denial and pretending over the brutal reality of the example expressed, your criticism of me is irrelevant. The truth exists regardless of your comfort level.
Accepting you are an abused victim to professional gaslighting, manipulation and Machiavellian deceit, carried out by those who claim to be your allies, is painful and unnerving. However, failing to accept the reality of the example cited only retains your status as a victim, a codependent enabler, a battered conservative.
It is a remarkable dynamic. Many people can see how the functionaries played against President Donald Trump this way, but they cannot see how they, themselves, are continually being played.
Want to break the cycle? Then publicly ask Patel in this type of forum, “if the House 702 reauthorization and extension is so bad, then why is Mike Turner saying your colleague Devin Nunes enthusiastically supports it?”
Lastly, the absence of that question showcases why Maria Bartiromo is considered a “key influencer” by those in DC who rely on key influence. Oh wait, you’re thinking maybe Bartiromo just doesn’t know what question to ask. I mean, she just interviewed Mike Turner, so she probably forgot. Yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket.
Then PDJT needs to confront them both in public
Mmmmm…….Might it be that We The People need to confront them both in public?
Kash Patel always seems so off to me.
Now, I know why.
David Victor Hanson should call Kash…and they wouldn’t know what to even talk about.
Let’s see if Bannon calls him out on the War Room.
I wouldn’t hold my breath though.
My thoughts exactly. Wonder if SB ever wanders through CTH.
He does and has made complimentary references to Sundance on the Warroom.
I don’t think VDH is any better…
I don’t think Bannon is any better either. He goes so far and no further. And he can’t not know many of the military historical things he pretends not to know. Like 9/11. The Iraq War. Afghanistan.
Not since he voiced his support for Nimrata
VDH is on a DeSantis election committee. He lost me with that level of scholarship.
I’m down for that.
This story makes it sound like the only one on the up and up is President Trump. Is he a functionary as well?
Just imagine the dimension of the “backdoor” or the capacity of the portal Truth Social maintains for the feds…
Those who understand and are inside the workings of the machine are best equipped to dismantle it should the opportunity arise.
But we keep relying on them and yet there us never an opportunity to dismantle.
Almost as if the thing we need, dismantling the machines, would be the loss of their power and influence.
George Washington greatly admired and imitated Cincinnatus. He was given power to save Rome, saved Rome, and set aside his power to go back to his farm. Washington did this twice, setting aside power first as the victorious General and second as the first President. An admirable precedent that served to protect the nation until FDR broke it and we had to set it in stone in the Constitution.
That is what we need. Men who will do what it takes to save the Republic, but not desperately cling to power.
about a hundred years before FDR actually
“Almost asvif the thing we need, the dismantling of the machines, would lead to the loss of their influence and power.”
BINGO, no “Almost” that is EXACTLY what Sundance is SAYING.
THEY, people like Patel, Nunes, Grinnell, etc. are caught in a trap, and are highly unlikely to actively dismantle the source of their power, influence etc.
Remember Admiral Rogers?
He did just the minimum he needed to, to cover his ass, and NO MORE, preserving the system.
And ‘where is he, now?’
If Adm. Roger’s had not done what he did, we would have HRC, nuclear war, and a cancelled 2024 election.
He risked his life.
Enough with the smears.
Not a smear, he did what he had to do, to CYA.
Thats a fact.
Turns out that 666 is not the the “number of the beast.”
It’s 702
👉 702 is one of many current precursors.👈
😈666 is still the final iteration ✅️
Probably the prefix for every CBDC acct. #.
Dershowitz is still an ignorant liberal idiot. But I repeat myself.
The department of the redundancy department asked for some words back.
Ha ha, yep.
😂😂😂😂
Paytriots. Selling books and wine.
Nunes wine.
if Nunes complained, would that be depicted as Nunes whine?
“The answer…. Institutional preservation of the HPSCI compartment, and a desire for access therein.”
I saw some snippets of reporting that Nunes did not support this as Turner claims, but did not see much and could not figure out why Nunes did not respond forcefully.
This (desire for access) explains it Sundance. Thanks.
There are many bad things about DC, but people ignoring any principle they might have in order to preserve their access to the table ranks high.
Access to the table < Place at the table
Even in subservience, crumbs satisfy these self-promoters; they will not look down to see those they could otherwise defend if they were faithful to the masses instead of the massahs.
Take away the table. Abolish FISC/FISA
Absolutely.
Just get rid of the “Patriot” Act. Easier said than done, I know.
Who else is addicted to desire for access?
Sounds worse than blackmail.
Self blackmail.😳
Exactly 💯
“Self blackmail”🤔
Who else? Anyone who works in DC in any manner connected to Club Fed.
I first experienced this in the 1990’s with a reporter from the Army Times. She did very good reporting on Gulf War veterans issues, but it was similar to reporting in other newspapers.
My last conversation with her was when she flat-out refused to report on a specific topic regardless of the facts shown to her. She told me she would lose access to Pentagon press briefings if she reported on the topic.
She currently runs her own little media communications company around DC, still collecting crumbs from the table.
A kept woman, living in a comfortable small cage of her own making, SAD.
Its like politicians; they can have the best policy ideas ever, but if they can’t get ELECTED, their ideas don’t get implemented.
Similar concept.
Can you imagine how much Govt tit $ would not be expended, if they abolished the program entirely?
Must be over 10,000, probably not 100,000 people out of work, if they truly shut it down.
They will never truly shut them down.
D, it seems to me that the lobbyists and staffers craft policy and write legislation. The many oink-oinks then line up to see who will pay them the most for adopting one position or another.
And we all lose…🥺
Career currency – money and power vs. doing what’s right.
If u need to bow and scrape to have a place at a table u don’t have a place at the table — ur a slave serving the table.
Nunes didn’t expect the letter to be shared- he lied.
I said a long time ago that all the exits were blocked.
” Ratcliffe, Nunes and yes, Kash Patel are functionaries of the system. “
Then is there anyone left for us to believe is not?
Who can be trusted? The name of the game in dc in compromise if need be.
What we the people get is less than expected.
Convulated mess like the tenecale pic we are caught in.
Dc is a weed that keeps getting bigger because it is allowed to grow.
The weed is feed by compromised people connected and controlled by the weed.
Don’t trust people who grow weeds.
Don’t trust ANY politician.
Even Roundup doesn’t work anymore.🤮🤮
Nobody comes to mind. Wait.. Admiral Mike Rodgers didn’t sign, the myth of Mike Rodgers as hero lives.
Useless.
No, he helped a little.
At a very key juncture, he switched on a light and made the cockroaches scurry.
Timing is everything. He hit his mark.
A yes, the myth of Mike Rogers saving us from abuse of 702.
If anyone hadn’t noticed, the abuse continues.
That wasn’t the point of what he did at all.
He threw a spanner in the system and made the plotters have to go the FISA route. Everything that has happened since in terms of exposure flows from that moment.
It was about exposure, not rescue.
Can you argue with the proposition that you know 1,000 more times than you did 8 years ago about who, and what, are infesting our nation?
You can’t.
You can’t fix a system wide cancer when you can’t even see it.
Now we see it.
But of course! Look in the mirror–If you so honestly dare!
Can’t do that.
I’ll just see more gray hair.
Ya know, I absolutely enjoy seeing all my gray hair and wrinkles! Why? Because I earned every damn one of them and now I finally look as old as I feel! <smiles>
I been waiting 30 years for this.
If some cute young gal says I “look like Santa” (cause of my white beard, etc.) I say “well, come sit on my lap, and whisper in my ear what you want for Christmas.”
They laugh, and think its “cute” and harmless (and it IS! as I am devoted to the missus!) …point is, 20 years ago that would have got me slapped.
Perzactly!
You too?!
Been in Santa mode for a good while and I get away with a lot more than I ever did as a youngster.
We have much in common!
I am going to mess up spelling their names but I think you mean Joe DeGenova and Victoria Tensing.
It’s why you don’t fall in love with personalities- politicians or media.
Rather, it’s the actions that matter. Not people, actions. The people are the tools. When you have a hammer that doesn’t put nails into wood, you don’t keep using the hammer that doesn’t work- you get a new hammer.
Agree Nunes and Patel’s net worth are directly tied to their equally corrupt access the NSA database. They’re not going to cut off their own noses. They’re just as tainted as the swamp they came out of.
Everyone has his price…
Everyone.
“Not I, said the little green pig!”
Snort, snuffle, truffle.
<smiles>
Lol! 😉😎
Bet
Come on, now. There’s one that doesn’t have a monetary price. He currently lives in MAL.
Our host has declined being bought out by very big money, many times.
Integrity lives here.
Yes indeedy!
I know, my friend….
I should have added everyone except…
Anyone: ??MAL??
Mar A Lago, as in PDJT’S Florida residence.
tx. My first thought but then over thinking set in.
Since my first reply was on the lighter side, might you afford me a more serious reply?
And that reply would be:
No, not everyone has his price! There are those of us that can not be bought and I believe you are one of those!
In a most heartfelt rendering twist of our commitment, our not having a price means we may often have to pay the highest price of our convictions.
So be it!
STAND!
I do not believe THEY have anything to offer me, that I want, and I believe that is true of many.
Over 1000+ J6 prisoners, and despite being offered reduced sentences (which you KNOW they want) none have agreed to turn States against PDJT, and give the persecutors the manipulated, coerced narrative they so badly want.
I don’t think most have any appreciation of just how RARE that is.
For every Manafort, there are usually 10,000 Cohens.
And here we have 1000+ Manaforts,…not even the Mafia has that kind of record of “stand up guys”!
The things I want have no price, dutch.
Exactly, they have nothing I desire.
Thank you, Paprika 😘
I qualified my answer to Black Knight above.
In truth I’d be willing to bet everyone in our Tree (plus our Landlords) is the same.
And yes, how well you put it and so beautifully, too.
We never know when a price will be demanded of us. The time may come when such a demand may be made. I have already made a commitment to stand firm in the face of such a demand…
So that I may , please Father, one day stand before Him having refused to pay it.
Blessings to you, dear lady.
Just to let you know, dearest Betsy, I have already paid the price more than once and am ready to pay as many times as it takes. This does not make me a hero or an extraordinary person, it just makes me humble kin to so many more American Patriots and Citizens!
And by the way, I’m neither a dear lady or a female, but still madly in love with my loverly and most beautimous wife of 30 years!
Apologies, dear SIR!!! One can only guess, and I made up own story. Please forgive me🙏🏻
I stand in admiration of your ethics and, yes, courage. I keep telling my grands old enough to understand that each one of us goes home at night and shuts the door on the world. To be able to live in peace with one’s actions is a precious thing. If lost? Well, that’s a price as well…and one I wouldn’t wish on them. They understand, and I am grateful for that.
How lucky your beloved bride. My wish remains the same…blessings to you both🕊
Additionally, I am “Bet” to all my friends here. Just so you know 😉
Well, “Bet” you just reiterated something I only noticed when I came into the treehouse.We talk in depth, sharing our Worldview,…
Now the pollsters, pundits, and Globullust dividers would have us believe our DIFFERENCES; Race, Gender, Religion, Age, etc. are so integral to our World view, that if they just collect and collate by race, gender, age, income and education the opinions of a small # of respondents, they can accurately project onto a much larger group, …
And yet, having had many interactions with paprika, you had no idea the gender of this person.
WE have many dear friends in the House but unless their screen name, or things they say in their comments makes it clear, we can’t tell the race, gender, age, religion, of these fellow treepers.
Because these demographic factors DO NOT shape our World view; they simply are NOT that important.
Its a foundational, fundamental false narrative THEY constantly push, to keep us divided, so that we can’t unite against THEM.
Their obsession with tribalism blinds them to what really binds us.
Well said, my friend. Well thought out.
The world they want is one I and everyone here wish to be no part of. And yes, it must be infuriating to them that they have no power to make it otherwise. Blessed was the day I was directed to this site, only to read, mind. No intention to ever comment. It was clear even then that there were beautiful souls who were sharing precious conversation and thought.
And it never occurred to me to wonder whether they were any specific variety of souls. It didn’t matter. I couldn’t see their covers, but I could see the pages of their books, their humanity.
It’s that God given humanity that upsets the dividers the most I think. It must be, or I doubt so much life draining energy would be spent trying to eliminate the Source of our joy in the fellowship we have. I’d call it their “Fool’s Errand” but it is clear that Errand belongs to a very dark force, one which has no power here.
Ah well… just up with no coffee, but wanted to answer your lovely thought, dutch, before I got myself into gear..m blessed be your day. I’m sure our paths will cross later 😊
The final salute from a person I met long ago was, “Don’t miss Heaven!” Said with a smile and a wave. Have always loved that one! 💘
And you say my comment is “Well said” and “Well thought out”?
I would say you polished my very rough diamond, making it gorgeous!
Well said!
Was taught by people far better than I am who dubbed all those characteristics, “the accidents of birth.”
Thank you, Bet!
My grandmother went by Bets or Betty. She is the one who got me started in gardening at age 4. She passed down to me a heirloom tomato that her mother passed down to her and I’ve keep the variety true and ‘out there’ for over 60 years. So the ‘Pruden’s Purple’ tomato variety has been in my family since the late 1800’s.
Since 1989 I have been manually creating my own tomato and pepper varieties the old fashioned way. It is a long process from original cross to a stable open pollinated variety–usually 8-10 years of growing and selection of the best plants with the best traits.
So to shorten this long diatribe I’ll bring it back around to my screen name. In the gardening circles and online garden forums I am known as Prudens Purple or Paprika for my love of ‘maters’ and peppers and use ‘Timothy T in NC’ as my handle as a backyard breeder in all the small ‘Mom and Pop’seed catalogs that carry my creations.
I refuse to accept any money for the seeds, plants, or fruits of my creations as I do this as a hobby and just enjoy the actual creation of good food for good folks that God has so graciously provided me the ability to do so. And I try my best to always provide the ‘fruits of my labor’ to all our local food banks during the growing season.
And that is how I continue to Live My Best Life–Doing the best I can to return the favor of a good and bountiful life to my God, Country, Family, Neighbors, and Community!
Be well Bet and those who hung in there for this long rambling diatribe of mine.
God Bless!
So Papriak, we all do have a price then. Some of us choose to pay in full with our convictions.
“Democracy”. A “rules-based international order”. “National security”. “Continuity of government”.
They’re all constructs designed to step on us, wear us down, and take everything we have, moving us into high-tech favelas and removing all that is good and meaningful from our lives.
They may have meant something good in times past. Those days are over.
Have a nice evening!
Meanwhile, Devin Nunes is CEO of Truth Social. Bears watching under the circumstances. Somehow, I think the Trump lurkers will be on to him, if not already.
Wine seller also.
BUSTED! Again.
Another one bites the dust, and another one gone, and another one gone ….
You go, boy!
Picking em up and laying em down.
Keep bringing it till you bring it on home 🏡!
And who are those folks reliant on to stay in their positions? Could it be the people that had all those documents seized from MAL that originated from a safe before Trump’s exit? That could bring the entire government down?
All roads lead to Langley.
Time to publish those docs don’t ya think.
I’m sure he would if he could.
As I explained yesterday to someone else, when they took custody of the documents, they made motions to claim those documents were still classified or re-classified.
Until the pending litigation of the case, or the motion concerning those documents is/are resolved favorably for Trump, releasing them now could jeopardize a contempt of court charge, or new charges of disclosing classified information.
That is the real reason for the MAL raid. To seize AND withhold from public disclosure.
But I agree with your sentiments that it would be great to do so, if he could – legally.
It may well be thats its his Insurance Policy, and quite literally is keeping him alive,…as in dead man switch.
Information and access to it is the currency of the Deep State.
Mike Turner would be directly confronted, the lies and manipulations exposed, and a very serious battle would take place publicly……………….Unfortunately, that public battle is viewed as too risky.
That battle is too risky for whom…..and why? Nunes is no longer in public office, so where’s the risk? Or does he retain hopes of a key position in the next Trump White House, and doesn’t want to burn bridges with those career bureaucrats in the silos, in case he needs their favors in the future?
This is why IMO Sundance needs to some how get onTucker for an hour to explain and call these people out. How else will the masses learn?
Heck Tucker doesn’t even understand this and he should be fascinated. I’m not sure PT even understands this dynamic.
“How else will the masses learn?”
Life is the art of the possible.
It would be less difficult to teach quantum mechanics to inner city high school students than all this.
Hence, it’s PDJT, whose interest is much greater than seeking numbers for a podcast, who should be courted to bend an ear to Sundance’s unparalleled and unexcelled insight.
Exactly. And again, why do some insist that Sundance would even want to go on Tucker’s podcast?
BTW, why hasn’t Tucker ever addressed what he saw on those J6 tapes, much less even bring up the J6 prisoners?
🤔 = suspicious 🐈
Personally, viewing Tucker as the pinnacle of truth telling and influence seems silly.
I fear it would be jumping the shark.
I wish not to ever see that.
You echo my internal real concerns.
And it’s a fool’s folly to people worship. Rather, and most here, most not all, understand that it’s actions, not people who should revered.
Exactly. They each only extend their criticism just so far — not beyond the walls that would close their access permanently. Every damned one of them is playing their designated role in their designated little box. The whole system needs to implode.
Some are playing roles they understand.
Wonder if these two recognize they are playing roles designed by others?
They are limiting themselves, they can’t not know they aren’t telling all, how well do they understand that allowing them crumbs is the Derp’s way of engineering their place at the edge of the plantation?
Sounds like Stalin’s savagely plucked chicken, obediently following well placed crumbs.
Do not put any coins into Tucker.
😂✅😂✅😂
Hilarious
IMO Sundance needs to some how get onTucker for an hour to explain and call these people out. How else will the masses learn?
That’d be one solution to quandaries like this
Sundance may prefer to stay out of the public eye – there are many good reasons for that preference
What I WOULD like is for Sundance to communicate to any media types like Tucker, to Elon Musk, and to any Congressmen and Senators he suspects would be accepting of his message
“Assign one or two members of your staff to read the Treehouse religiously, every day, and to summarize the articles for you with bullet points and key phrases and short paragraphs” – that could largely consist of simply printing the articles and taking a yellow highlighter to them.
At one page per topic, this should be your daily briefing on Treehouse analysis from your researchers.
It would only take maybe 2 of your staff, one to just read and summarize, but it’d benefit from 2 so they can bounce ideas off each other, see if they’re getting things right, agree on prioritization of major points, that kinda thing).
And it won’t take them all day, it wouldn’t be their full-time job, just a component of their daily research. Given all the information they must summarize for their principal every day, the Treehouse should be recognized as a singular source of informative analysis and should receive eyeballs of the principal EVERY day.
Sundance has written several times that everything he writes on these pages is free for the taking and he often defers from prodding to take a more active role or public role
He’ll say “It’s all there in the articles”
If I were him, I’d start with Don Jr and impress this dedicated Treehouse-research role on him and ask him to push it around to other parties he thinks are on the right side of liberty. And certainly to establish it for himself, brother, and Dad.
That’s what I’d do
I suspect they all monitor CTH, or at least a lot of them, already. Trump’s team does.
Yes, Trumps team DOES, we know that.
However, for Congress they don’t WANT to know what Sundance is sharing.
Cause if they did, they could not function as members of Congress, or even as staffers.
Congress, vital to signing elements enabling Derp State plots, knows not that they play in a very well controlled sandbox they cannot see out of.
I have dubbed them the Ignorami.
That might be a good thing, considering what we just saw! Vomit!
Trump’s sons were my choice when Sundance queried us on who to approach with his singular insight and comprehension of America’s plight.
The Communist Conspiracy is so multi-tentacled and wildly criminally prolific, it can overwhelm even a supergenius, PDJT needs Sundance, not for re-Truthing articles, but for conversation and consultation.
As MAGA needs a generational component that outlives PDJT and his next term, few have skin in the game like Trump’s sons; a comprehensive understanding of the mechanics and players of the Conspiracy in their hands can be communicated up, and can persevere through the Restoration of the Republic to come.
Well, since even Trump and Tucker can’t enlighten us, will you? I can’t help feeling, when I see people like Nunes and Patel called into question, even by SD himself, that we have becomes – all of us, each and every one – like pigs wallowing in the slop, and enjoying the wallowing so much that we don’t even WANT a way out. The paranoia has become an end in itself.
Truly?
Recognizing the self-limiting of potential heroes that has only prolonged the tyranny is paranoia?
I can assure you, Sundance and Treepers very much want to drive recognition and acceptance of the ugly truth as high and wide as we can, and allow it to transform our land and our world, we are not enjoying the animal farm and whist not wallow in any mud.
It seems some are more interested in diminuation of our efforts than acceptance of the role history offers us.
Not every one.
Speak for yourself.
“Our list of allies grows thin.” (Elrond to Gandalf)
Forgive the ugly analogy, but it seems our supposed heroes are satisfied if in the raping of America they themselves get a reach around.
Were they heroes, they would stand like Sampson and pull the temple down, even upon their own heads.
<Forgive the ugly analogy…>
Are you referring to Ben Cardin’s aide? 🙂
One might’ve thought we had exhausted the double entendres already, but there’s always more ugly penetrating insight on the table.
I arrived late for that earlier party!
All I know is his friend said, ‘No matter what…I’ll always stand behind him.’
We’ll never hear the end of that affair.
100 years ago or whatever sodomy meant at least jail, if not extermination
today it is something to joke about
And, THAT, is the real problem! Our country has turned away from God!!!
Oh pulease,…lol.
Well, the aide WAS fired, so at least we had a happy ending!
I feel flogging is in order.
Shouldn’t have said that, Maquis.
You show you are blissfully ignorant of some of the depravities of sex, and I share a knowledge of depths you can not imagine when I say,…”No, not flogging as he would probably not consider it a punishment, and would enjoy it.”
😁
Fairly innocent, but not entirely ignorant!
The opportunity for double-entendres can be hard to pass by.
Oh, don’t I know it, its as bad as the Bobbit story.
Wat didcJeffrue Dahmer say to lorraina Bobbit?
“Hey lady,…yuh gonna eat that?”
🥶
I won’t be buying any wine sold by Nunes.
I will buy no whine in my time.
Nunes can whine. Then he can rebrand.
Making wine isn’t difficult. No need to buy his.
How about that $530/case wine!
Playing wack-a-mole doesn’t work any more. The only ones getting wacked is us… all the time.
This is very much like a game of Ten Little Indians.
Looks like we are going to need
a bigger boat more Indians, a lot more, maybe a hundred as ten wasn’t nearly enough.So it looks like the Cabal now has something on Nunez.
Unenlightened self-interest alone suffices here.
Were there dirt we’d have seen it, it’s much more mundane, and sad, than that; he has his shtick and he’s sticking with it.
Now? How about all along?
Like my old History professor said: “Never fall in love with a politician. They will let you down every time.”
I have been following this for a while. Kash Patel is one of the few that have earned respect for what he’s ‘done’ in Washington. Based on what I have heard from Patel in the past. He was only able to accomplish what he accomplished (which is get the word out about the spying on Trump, and therefore destroy the DC already implemented plan to get rid of Trump). Only by getting a promise from Nunes beforehand that he will have ‘autonomy’ in his work. And Nunes had to keep his word.
So there are a few things to take into consideration. One, Nunes and Patel are two separate entities with two different agendas and priorities. Two, Patel is playing chess and is navigating a difficult game walking on eggshells. I’m sure it would be so nice for him to sing the same song as Sundance. So we know where he stands. However, for that we have had plenty of others singing the song all the time and doing nothing about it. And what would we gain by having him singing the song and doing the opposite.
Rather I would judge Patel exclusively by his actions. And completely disregard his words. Because words in Washington mean zero regardless.
Based on actions so far he checks every box. And hopefully more to come.
Should Patel have come out against the legislation here it would not have made a stitch of a difference.
If not for Patel and one or two more people, Trump would have been out of his presidency within a year.
“I’m sure it would be so nice for him to sing the same song as Sundance. “
If everyone is thinking alike (and has the same strategy and tactics) , someone is not thinking.
George S. Patton.
“If not for Patel and one or two more people, Trump would have been out of his presidency within a year.”
We will never know for sure, but quite plausible. But that’s no excuse for them not being perfect all the time at everything!!!
Sundance is the very epitome of not thinking like everyone else.
Were more to accept his understanding and adopt his insight he’d still be a minority.
It’s not the least wrong to hope that our best hopes avail themselves the understanding of our host.
It only takes 2 people to be thinking alike for one of them not to be thinking. In a large group leaves lots of room for just one “thinker” to blow it all up.
Some of us knew the name Kash Patel long before he ever made the spotlight.
I would be much more suspicious of him than I am had that not been the case.
I reserve judgment as a result.
Can you please elaborate on the part of knowing that name before? I would be interested in more details.
This paradigm you are expressing is totally contrary to the founding generation. They knew from the beginning that every day they were putting themeslves, their family and friends at risk of death.
But acknowledging the truth and taking action for God given, inherent rights was the priority to all else. It was understood that everything followed after these rights.
If we do not begin to think and act along the same lines as that generation, then it will be impossible to overcome this situation. It is because they sought to preserve what God had given them that God helped them.
IF these people do not stand up against this, then we know that they do not have what it takes to preserve everyone’s God given, inherent rights. IF we discover this to be true then it is time to move on.
We will change our paradigms or die.
Actually, i believe a review of the historical record, of the words and actions of the Founders was that their initial grievance was “taxation without representation” specifically that they had no members of Parliment, no REPRESENTATION, and so no say in the taxation regime being imposed on the colonies by England.
They expended quite a bit of time and effort on trying (to no avail) to reach some kind of accomodation with King George, and it was only when KG put a death sentence on them, by proclamation, that they wrote the D of I.
Independance from England was highly controversial within the Colonies, and was a last resort, not a first.
So actually, the intrnal struggles we feel individually and as a MAGA Coalition, over HOW to proceed closely mirror the stages our Founders went thru.
Taxation without representation is the legal claim of Englishmen whose rights as citizens were not being granted.
Those rights came through many years of recognizing things such as Kings do not have a divine right as previously practised, the people have a right to choose their representative – the House of Commons vs the House of Lords……etc.
One must make a legal claim for grievance against the government and this is still an English right.
To deny that taxation without representation does not inherently stand on God given rights to individuals is to not remember English history and its implications to the American colonies and the role played in creating the founding era documents.
The paradigm I referred to was in regard to such people as Patrick Henry who knew what it was going to take to retain their rights. Of course then, as today, many persons would prefer this situation did not exist and would prefer that with the right words those who aggress against others would change their behavior.
But we are intelligent and understand that nice words, though truthful, will not change the wrong behavior.
The game being played by Patel and Nunes as referenced above will not change anything. It is merely more of the same and acceptance by the populace of this game also, though polite, will not change anything to the end of stopping the power abuse.
The founding generation recognized nice truthful words were meaningless and that action was require.
That is the paradigm we must accept if we wish to retain our inherent rights and our constitutional republic.
This was the crux of my comment.
I have a similar opinion about supposed efforts on the part of the Trump 2024 campaign to deal with election fraud.
PDJT says they won’t get away with it this time. But I don’t see any visible evidence that an effective anti-fraud strategy and plan for 2024 actually exists.
I’m not the only one. Darren Beattie made a remark on War Room last week which indicates to me that he hasn’t seen any evidence of an effective plan either.
If none of us can see visible evidence that an effective, well co-ordinated ,and well-funded anti-fraud strategy and plan actually exists, then it doesn’t actually exist.
Someone must confront Donald Trump and his campaign staff with this issue and put strong pressure on them to publicize the anti-fraud efforts they are supposedly pursuing.
The MAGA voter base knows full well that pursuing a successful fight against election fraud is the key to winning in 2024.
If the MAGA voter base believes that the 2024 is going to be stolen — because not nearly enough work has been done ahead of time to fight election fraud — many of them will stay home and not deliver the huge numbers needed to win.
2024 = 2020
2024=2016
Darn Straight!
Elections are state matters. Not for Trump to decide. State grass roots operations need to be the front lines against election fraud. Can’t keep asking others to do this for us.
you are right!
Jaye: “Elections are state matters. Not for Trump to decide. State grass roots operations need to be the front lines against election fraud. Can’t keep asking others to do this for us.”
Sure, the state grass roots organizations are indeed the front lines. But if their own front line election integrity efforts are to succeed, the grass-roots work needs considerable external support in the areas of data analysis, activity co-ordination, on-call legal support, and money.
The RNC will not be supplying any of the support needed to make the grass roots anti-fraud efforts successful. If the Trump campaign doesn’t step up to the task of supplying the necessary external support to the grass-roots organizations, no one else will and the 2024 election cycle will be lost to fraud.
As I see the situation personally, having the Trump campaign take on direct responsibility for coordinating anti-fraud efforts among the various grass-roots organizations is a key step towards enabling the MAGA movement as a whole to gain firm control of the Republican Party from top to bottom.
CauseOfAmerica.org
Naturally I just got blocked trying to get to it … this is Mike Lindell’s effort.
Battleship Wisconsin,
The organised and coordinated operation to steal the 2020 election was covert; in key “battleground States” near the major tabulation centers, they rented out buildings, staffed up and had ballot mules (including USPS, and many ‘independant contractors’ that worked nursing homes, large apt. complexes, and ghettis) collect the mailed out ballot envelopes at these “mother ship” locations, where they were ‘processed’ with the ballots being marked, and stuffed into the mail IN envelopes which were signed and sealed and fed to other teams of ballot mules that dropped the envelopes in drop boxes.
And you actually expect the Trump campaign to publically disclose what is being done, to break up such operations and preventvthem from stealing thecelection in 2024?
Actually, IF you have paid attention, MUCH HAS BEEN DONE, as by attrition, many of their tools for stealing elections HAVE been rendered inert.
BECAUSE of the movie 2000 mules, we saw NO ballot mules dropping ballots, in 2022.
Because we FINALLY (after 30+ YEARS!) “broke the seals”, got into the machines, and decyphered the programs, the “Dominion algorythm” aka “drop and roll” has been exposed; HOW it works, and what are the key “tells” to look for, to KNOW that its being used, contemporaneously, and to prove afterwords that its been used.
Like a magic trick, once the audience knows HOW itcworks, it loses its power to mesmorise, which is why it was not used in ANY 2022 election, even must steal Maracopa County.
And, because KL was far better prepared FOR having her election stolen, she passed “standing” barricade, hence getting into discovery, etc. so that we know EXACTLY hiw they stole Az. elections in 2022, and so how to guard against theircremaining methods in 2024.
Mr. Dutchman, have you not noticed that in spite of all these post-election developments, Kari Lake is not governor of Arizona, Abe Hamadeh is not Arizona’s Attorney General, and Mark Finchem is not Arizona’s Secretary of State?
What we now know with near absolute certainty, and from bitter experience, is that election integrity strategies which rely on post-election lawsuits cannot and will not deter the forces of election fraud evil from doing their dirty work, and are therefore all but guaranteed to fail.
Moreover, having the Trump campaign take on direct responsibility for funding and coordinating anti-fraud efforts among the various grass-roots election integrity organizations can and will become a key step towards enabling the MAGA movement to gain firm control of the Republican Party from top to bottom.
Problem: Our election systems have been compromised & do not reflect the will of We the People. This is the single most impactful issue we face as an ostensibly free people protected by a Constitutional Republic.
Solution: 1) No electronic voting machines (given the complexity of the software/firmware programming employed, it’s virtually impossible to certify/ensure their count is accurate, sans manipulation); 2) secure voter ID; 3) secure paper ballots; 4) hand count votes at precinct level with full transparency; 5) single day voting.
James,
History seems to acknowledge the 1960 election was stolen from Nixon, by JFK (Joe, actually) despite it being conducted on ONE day, using paper ballots, hand counted with voter I.D.
And to both you and BW, I would point out that IF the 2022 electiin in Maracopa ciunty has been conducted with officials following all of the election laws, and rules/regs, and policies/proceedures KL WOULD be Gov.
Point is, machines don’t steal elections any more than guns kill people.
Unless/until we focus on the PEOPLE who count the votes, and the people in control of detirmining who the people that count the vores will BE, expending energy on getting rid of machines is a distraction.
AS for KL, viewed unemotionally there was NO WAY they were going to allow her to win; she posed SUCH an ‘over thectop’ threat to them, that she FORCED them to go to extreme measures to steal it, SO THAT they would be caught, and the world would see it was REPUBLICANTS, that stole it.
How do you think it is, that ,…’someone’ intentionally hacked in to the Ciunty security camera system, and recorded the signal for several weeks before election day, SO THAT they could have video of county officials installing malware into SOME voting machines, TESTING to insure it was causeing malfunctions as intended, and then labeing those machines to go to KL districts?
Do you B.W. think that was coincidence? KL was never going to be sworn in as gov. of az.
She was a stealth bomber, hidden in plain sight.
In war strategy.. do you really think it’s a good idea to advertise your action publicly…all your opponents will simply devise new strategies to combat yours…🤔
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Jim Burns: “In war strategy.. do you really think it’s a good idea to advertise your action publicly…all your opponents will simply devise new strategies to combat yours…”
We’ve heard that argument over and over. And it remains what it has always been — complete BS. If the Trump campaign isn’t out front with its own highly visible, highly proactive, well-funded, and well co-ordinated anti-fraud effort, the 2024 election will be lost.
I don’t know… I think there was a “phony” army set up by the Allies to confuse the Germans on where D Day was taking place…
Trump’s success in business and politics speaks for itself… I trust him ..😀👍
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Good reminder, JB. And wonder of wonders, it worked.
(The first time I learned about it, I had trouble believing it. My only point of reference initially being Cher’s, to me, hilariously funny series of “Fat Classics.”)
How about overt and covert?
How about the gazillions of efforts going on across the country now multiplied by Trumpfinity?
Dutchman has presented so many incredible dissertations of what is happening and what the Derps can no longer do that it boggles the mind that any Treeper can assert nothing is being done.
When PDJT says that 2020 was rigged and we will not allow them to rig 2024 that more than suggests that your concerns are understood and being addressed.
The reason KL’s election challenge case was able to overcome the hurdle of “standing” is because on election day she had teams comprised of paralegals supervised by lawyers, that were able to visit almost every one of the several 100 polling locations in Maracopa county, and write detailed and unbelievably accurate reports, which gave Lakes legal team the ammunition they needed to demonstrate, a mere 10 days after the election that there were enough disenfranchised voters to effect the results of the elections, which is the high standard of “standing” applied to election challenges.
Do you honestly believe that effort was financed by the RNC, and supervised by Harmeet Dillion?
The RNC and its franchisee the AZ State R party orchestrated thecstealing of the election, and the last thing they wanted was for KL’s election challenge to survive “standing” and get into discovery.
So, if the RNC didn’t fund this massive, well orchestrated operation of teams of lawyers fanning out across the largest County in the U.S. …..just WHO has the $ to?
Boum.
So, you’re with whom?
“If none of us can see VISIBLE evidence that an effective, well co-ordinated and well-funded anti-fraud strategy and plan exists, then it doesn’t actually exist”.
My, self-important aren’t we?
Perhaps things are happening, quietly and behind the scenes, in many places. Little people doing little things, not the least of which is praying.
And, if I understand correctly, DJT does not like to advertise what he’s doing.
A hot potato is handled with care.
If that hot potato is not handled correctly someone gets burned.
Hot potatoes are allowed to cool before public consumption.
Nunes eats his with his nunes wine.
Insider hot potato trading.
One potato, two potato, three potato, four.
😂
Cellguy, I think you are overdue for your nap. Either that or you have chugged too many beers this evening.
By all means consume your mashed potatoes first.
Your suggestion that this situation requires a timely response rather than a knee jerk reaction is probably correct. But that is not satisfying for many who want to kick down some doors and break things
President Trump, and those who will be working with him in the next Administration really are doing a delicate dance, step-by-step exposing the depth of the corruption to the average citizen who mostly gets their news from the big 3 media outlets with a smattering of internet sites slowly building up the reality of the situation so the people don’t turn off from learning because the truth really is that ugly,
while also keeping the poisons of the swamp at bay just so he can actually get back into position to clean things up and appoint the people needed to do the work.”
All while not exposing how bad things are to the sleepers inserted by the enemies of our nation in the off chance there is still time to round them up and deport them back to where they came from.
Dangerous days indeed. I keep on thinking about the news story from earlier this weekend how the border patrol are warned about IDE’s, and what if the highway overpasses and rail bridges are targets when the other commenter mentioned the strangers at the truck stop.
It isn’t illegals burning down food facilities and petroleum processing.
It is, however, illegals that will go door to door to satisfy their appetites when the system is crashed.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed.
Damn fine comment, Bessie!
One day at least in every week
Hidden enemies of every kind
We are sure to seek
And was just as sure to find
Sundance, given this info, will you continue to promote Nunes wines?
Patel is dead to me…thought he was ok, however, not now. No way. Even in a silo, they people just can NOT be that stupid…or is it deliberate Kabuki theater for the masses?
In what way could Sundance be considered to have ever promoted the selling of Nunes wines?
New information creates change.
Perhaps at Devin Nunes Wines the promo code Treehouse will be revoked by request.
I wonder if Nunes asked CTH for permission or blessing to use the promo code of “Treehouse?”
If not, then Nunes was just playing on Treepers’ emotional loyalty.
Glad I didn’t jump on the bandwagon (to buy), again.
Yes. Very possible.
I wouldn’t imply Sundance is in on it. Not my intent. At all.
Like you, I considered buying.
I’ve only seen you suggest that promo code even exists.
Are you trolling, or serious?
Anyone can try to claim affiliation in order to grasp at credibility, a little more honest exposition here would be appreciated.
Go up to the search bar.
Search, Founders Club
Scroll and look at the ads.
And, iirc there was a direct promotion request linked at the end of an article. Int that promotion it was directly stated the promo was a means to make income for TCH.
And, like I wrote, new info creates change.
And, I am not suggesting anything against Sundance.
And, not trolling.
Cool.
I have so much ad blocking tech set up I never see any of that stuff.
Salutations!
The article was titledcsomething like “angels on our shoulders” and IIRC in it Sundance talked about perhaos a weeklybor bi-weekly podcast, …and soon after went on his fact finding trip.
I figured the Nunes ad was an indication Devin came up with some serious $, and the Founders club was a way to get it back?100 X’s $539, is some serious cash.
Trip to Europe, equipment neccesary to start a podcast maybe?
And btw, I also seriously considered being a founder, and i don’t drink wine.
And, my opinion of Nunes went up several notches, and now has gone backvto where it was.
On Nunes, I imagine Sundance will have more to write in time.
Edit… I see below Sundance has clarification on how Nunes was mislead. Which can clear up some things but then opens more questions in my mind.
No “Kabuki theater for the masses” because no one outside the limited conservative media knows what a Patel is.
Hello,
The whole “Biden” presidency has been Kabuki theater to awaken the masses.
If you have been observing carefully.
I get tired of the argument from delusional RDS supporters who accuse Trump of making bad hires in his term in office. This FISA issue is proving that people we thought were on our side, namely Devin Nunes and Kash Patel, are creatures of the DC cabal and not entirely detached from it.
The introduction to the hit TV show The X-Files always ended with a screen that showed the words, “Trust no One”. At this point we can’t trust any elected Republican or any conservative media pundit or government official to do the right thing for the country. In some way they’re all compromised by the cabal!
Runt supporters accusing PDJT of supporting short sighted hires is pretty rich!
Except, they aren’t and will not be getting rich supporting Derp State plants.
I care NOT what “runt supporters” say, they all just want to get in the WH, as a staffer, so they can “top” that Congressional staffer, in making gay porn video in the WH.
The end goal is all too clear.
Can’t say I am supprised . Decepticons are revealed on a daily basis.
I am very disappointed IN Nunes
HIs being in charge of truth Social does not bode well.
Who can you truly trust? (besides yourself)
Oh, every Judas once loved a Jesus
But oh, betrayal will seize us
We all are caught in the middle
Of one long dangerous riddle
Of who trusts who
Maybe I’ll trust you
But can you trust me?
Wait and see!
“Mike Turner is lying about the support from John Ratcliffe and Devin Nunes for the HPSCI FISA-702 reauthorization bill. Ratcliffe and Nunes do not support the Turner construct.”
The thing is, they signed on to the letter that clearly states their support of the Turner/Himes bill. (see paragraph 3 of the letter)
You consider that proof?
I see their names but no signatures.
Where are the signatures that should accompany the typed names and positions.
In my world in business, that price of paper is worthless without a signature in ink.
Hell, I could type that up, send myself and email and the ‘tweet’ it out to the world and claim they support it.
Deception?
Sundance consumes and parses documents like no one we know.
Difficult to conceive the assertion he has wrong something so supposedly easily disproved.
That’s what I’ve been thinking – that if Ratcliffe and Nunes don’t support the outcome, then they were somehow duped into supporting the bill – maybe under a false proviso that the reforms (paragraph 2) would be put in(?) What troubles me is that all of the so called signatories have all been around the block too many times to let themselves be duped this way. So that leaves them with egg on their faces. They have to choose between calling out the deception, or going along with it which is Sundance’s assertion. In either case, they look really bad. By choosing silence, they remain on the record of supporting it and thus giving MAGA the finger from here on.
And there ARECsituations where, IF you did that, for a variety of reasons thecperson might be hesitant, or even loathe to call you out for the fraud.
They essentially agreed to a blank sheet of paper, the committee construct wasn’t finished. The finished HPSCI product was not at all what was expected. The signed paper was typed and used. That’s how it was done.
Thank you. Please see my reply to BK, above.
So, fraud then. If it were a contract, itvwould be null/void, but only if they call it out.
So they were duped.
Thanks for the explanation.
Politics follows culture. It is up to each of us to change the culture. How are we doing?
BINGO!!!
I completely believe what the host is saying here …… that all of the DC creatures are like currency and that currency is only as good as their access to the “inside”. Their personal ability to monetize their “inside knowledge” only works as long as that inside knowledge can be maintained.
If these people call Turner a liar, they are finished. Turner obviously knows this and boldly puts out a false statement almost daring these fellows to challenge him. You could almost see this as a taunt.
Another in a long, long list of examples of how filthy our political system and government have become. I doubt this can be “reformed”.
Turner is having some good laughs at the HPSCI holiday party.
How can Nunes and Ratcliffe be finished. They are not government employees. Just what is Turner going to do?
😞 SORRY. MEANT,Patel. Not Ratcliffe.
Could easily apply to Ratcliffe, as well.
Sorry, SD.
Irreconcilable.
I have just chalked it up to fog of war and house of mirrors.
We see maybe 40 percent of what is really going on.
We have insufficient information to reach the conclusion you have reached.
One possibility that does haunt me is problem, reaction, solution.
Create the problem – millions of illegal invaders.
Reaction: a united country turns to a strongman who will kick them out, and we become okay with the 702 so we can get that done.
Solution: Real ID and a surveillance state forever. No going back to a private and free America.
I do hope we aren’t getting played.
I want my freedom back. I want to stop living in the Panopticon.
Doubts are creeping in.
plan that the secret police spy state accelerates and your freedoms, liberties and speech are under constant check.
it’s the realitistic plan to expect.
Q: do we honestly believe that the secret police spy state, that has amassed so much power, money and influence is simply going to give it back because congress passes a few reforms?
seriously?
did the british army concede that the young americans had the right to property, sovereignty, liberty and freedom of trade and commerce?
history you see is an examination of how power happens.
we are in stage 4, transfer of power. At the moment, the secret police spy state is doing quite well retaining and expanding its power…this transfer is from YOU to THEM.
understand how this works.
revolutions cannot be seen in terms of how they end, but how they rock back and forth, from one to the other.
our time will come…the pain..it’s coming.
God Bless America
Its CALLED a revolution, which means it goes around in a circle.
Its NOT called a,straight, or even squiggly line.
Then why are we pumping up Nunes by buying his wine?? I just don’t get it or am am missing something. THis only shows me that Nunes, through the PDJT admin was no better than the rest, but let me get the subscription to pad his bottom line!!
What a coincidence. I purposefully restrained my spidey senses all this time until yesterday I decided to release some of the weight off my shoulders. Even the ones trusted the most are controlled opposition in some form or another.
Ask yourself what would you do if you were in their position. This is not how you fight corruption which results in a never ending tick tock boom operation. If we were truly in the fight we would at the very least be answering the right freaking questions in order to get to the root of the problem
Which is why my focus always is on election integrity. The current Congress you see was largely installed. Wherever a real candidate was a threat to the club, that race was rigged. It was especially obvious during the 22 midterm. “Republican controlled House” is the illusion. A slim Republican majority was the insurance policy.
I agree the “Majority control” of the Senate and House are illusions, and the Uniparty controls that as it suits the Leadership.
I THINK its obvious, based on reading between the lines, that Comey gave very different briefings to Nunes, on CFH, tgab he did to the other G of 8 members.
To focus on election integrity, focus on STATE rather than Federal, and focus not on “who counts the votes” (and therefore installs EVERYONE else) instead focus on who installs the ones who count the votes.
Its the State R party Executive committees; in “Blue States” they simply make no effort to contest election officials put up by the State D party, in “RED States” they install County election officials they control, and with that they control ALL election results, from school boards to POTUS.
Meanwhile, thecpublic focus on Federal over Statexand County, and focus on elected PUBLIC officials, ignoring elected PARTY officials.
If we wantvelection integrity, we need to address the corrupt State R party Executive committees, instead of being distracted with Ronna or Kevin.
Problem: Our election systems have been compromised & do not reflect the will of We the People. This is the single most impactful issue we face as an ostensibly free people protected by a Constitutional Republic.
Solution: 1) No electronic voting machines (given the complexity of the software/firmware programming employed, it’s virtually impossible to certify/ensure their count is accurate, sans manipulation); 2) secure voter ID; 3) secure paper ballots; 4) hand count votes at precinct level with full transparency; 5) single day voting.
Welcome to my world, one I’ve been living in since Nunes walked out of the SCIF and as “troubled” as he declared himself about what he saw…he never exposed it.
Classification is the beasts immune system. One you sign on the dotted line and get your tickets, you assume a lifetime liability.
Accusation and innuendo are currency inside the machine. They/them will read you into a topic with the sole intention of forming an allegation. An open investigation cripples you within the system. Just stuff to think about.
Why do I feel like it is just the same o, same o. I don’t trust anyone anymore.
Rat Kash Ba$tard in other words.
Maybe. Maybe not.
This game has lasted decades.
Far from over. Double agents, triple agents.
he didnt bite a hand that could affect his access
he didnt kneel for them
The way I read it is there is a premise of it being astonishing that a Republican majority congress votes for a FISA extension.
If I am not mistaken this FISA thing originated around or in the Patriot-Act era? Under George W. Bush? Which was a Republican.. with a REPUBLICAN majority.
It’s globalism vs nationalism, with a lot of globalists also being part of the Republican party. Lindsey Graham is a prime example. Well him, and everyone else cheering on war in Ukraine and trying to start another one in the Indo-Pacific.
The Patriot Act enabled the weaponization of government.
Zero refined it’s use against carefully defined political opposition.
Yes, FISA is a Patriot Act creation, explore Sundance’s exposes on the subject, unparalleled understanding.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed.
Mmmmm…….Actually Maquis, FISA itself was enacted by Congress in 1978 under Jimmy Carter. And there have been ‘troubles’ with it that have been brought up by numerous congressional committees and “independent” panels. It was not until 2015 that a law was passed by congress to at least have a partially public FISA report published every year(usually posted in April or May the next year) of the number and category(type) of FISA applications. Applications denied in full are usually between only 2%-5%.
I say partially because there are 2 categories that We The people are not able to even know how many applications there were because of……you guessed it…….’National Security’ reasons!
Use the following site to see the director’s annual reports. The 1st in 2015 only covered June through December of that year.
*https://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/analysis-reports/directors-report-foreign-intelligence-surveillance-courts
Remove the ‘*’ at the beginning to view.
Argh.
Interested Patriot;
Close, DAMN close.
You know,”Weisemann”?yeah THAT guy!
He, along with COMEY were moved into the 7th floor of FBI headquarters, by MUELLER, appointed Director by W Bush.
Don’t worry everyone. Voting will fix this mess.
Don’t worry, vote suppression will secure the Commie’s gains.
Yes. That and the court system……
Oh man. I forgot about those black robes that we all seem to rely on. Those guys never disappoint.
Trump can pull the clearances for every gov official and public sector employee. He can dissolve the 5-eyes. He can make the NSA and FBI delete all data on US citizens.
Trump can also pull the federal law enforcement officer credentials for the FBI, ATF, etc.
Use the sledgehammer often and with malice.
You cannot divorce President Trump from Kash Patel and Devin Nunes, I don’t think. I think they rise and fall together.
What does that even mean?
That means President Trump has very strongly associated himself with Patel and Nunes for over half a decade now.
He is fully supportive of both, as far as I know.
He doesn’t think they are playing for the other team then, obviously.
So is he on Team 702, if they are?
And if he is, what does that imply?
Playing at less than full capacity in order to not be benched by a dirty hit is not the same as playing for the other team.
They are holding themselves back, preserving their privileges, doing less than they could or should; none are saying they are playing for the Derp State as willful agents.
I’ve only seen a single assertion that the association is evidence PDJT is playing for the Derp State . . .
Well, once before, but that guy lost his mind when called out and asked to answer for it.
Fair enough take.
Let’s see what happens.
I expect developments on the Buttigieg front fairly soon. We will see.
On the Buttgieg ‘front’,..I thought he was a reciever,…
LOL, sundance was baiting us with the other article on Patel! He wanted to find out how many of his readers pay attention.
Then, with this article, BOOM, Patel is proven scum.
Not scum.
This is one of Sundances articles that needs to be read more than once, and slept on.
I believe Sundance is working up tobthe ghordian knot of the deep State, and HOW you unravel it.
HOW do you open a shipping crate, with the crowbar that is packed INSIDE the crate?
The only ones that will get a security clearance, and Senate (HPSCI) confirmation, SO THAT they can work for PDJT, in his administration, to deconstruct the deep State, (BE a crowbar) are by neccesity INSIDERS of the deep State (INSIDE the crate).
PDJT can, and by my reading has plans to, bring in “outsiders” not just, or even primarily for the Cabinet positions, but for around 10,000 sub cabinet positions in D.C.
Some to replace those he will summarily fire, the rest for the ‘usual’ 3-5000 ‘political appointee’ positions every admin brings with them, and which he delegated to a compromised transition team last time.
THIS will be his demolition crew, and the Cabinet positions, while important are not as vital as these “lesser” positions, in dismantling the administrative State.
This WILL work, for dept of education, commerce, etc.
However, for the DEEP State, the FBI, DOJ NSD, CIA etc. its going to be challenging because of this crowbar packed in the crate dilemma.
Great to fantasize about!
“The CIA director, NSA director, ODNI, FBI Director, etc are not in charge of the compartments they represent. They are simply functionaries -middle men- …”
These functionaries are appointed by the President and approved by the Senate, right?
“The institutional leadership, those functionaries in control of the compartment (silo), can block access to the silo thereby devaluing the career currency of other functionaries.”
So who are these “functionaries in control of the compartment (silo)”? Are they not also appointed by the President? Or are they career bureaucrats who have risen through the ranks. Are these people Trump was speaking about firing? If possible, how could Trump replace them if not by appointment, if the replacements would be another career bureaucrat?
They are appointed by the President based on recommendations of others.
Who actually controls them (unofficially) is another matter.
“Who actually controls them (unofficially) is another matter.”
Sundance said “those functionaries in control of the compartment (silo)”
My question goes to how those actually “in control of the compartment (silo)” get into their positions and what means are available to remove them and prevent their replacement with similar like/kind.
Dismantle
“Dismantle”
I like it. Ready… Fire… Aim.
Exactly. The Cabinet positions are largely figurehead positions, particularlyvif their policy agenda differs starkly from these functionaries that actually run the Depts.
When Hillary was confirmed and moved into State as SoS, she brought her STAFF with her, and they were experienced swamp creatures; Jake Sullivan, Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, etc.
And, Hillarys policy agenda did not conflict with the functionaries in the State Dept., hence she was able to do as she chose.
PDJT is goungvto have to clean house, at least the top two layers below Cabinet level “Sub cabinet, and sub-sub cabinet”.
That will accomplish nothing. It is the money. Draining the Swamp consists of closing Departments and sending the money back to the people. If there is no money to steal, the grifting will stop. The rot inside these Departments cannot be cured.
My interpretation of Sundance’s control is that it is a cabal of Big Business. But when I look at China and the Big Businesses, Xi (government) has taken down many of the Titans of Business. The control has to be inside government.
Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l’ennemi du bien.
The better is the enemy of good is an aphorism commonly attributed to Voltaire (IQ too high to even estimate), who quoted an Italian proverb in his Questions sur l’Encyclopédie, which means insistence on soomething better often blocks the good.
Or as Confucius say, better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without.
And yet it was Voltaire who described Jesus as a degenerate.
So much for his ‘inestimable’ IQ!
He certainly saw Fauci comming.
Doctors put drugs of which they know little into bodies of which they know less for diseases of which they know nothing at all.
Voltaire
Just sent this to Kash on Truth Social:
“Hey Kash — I’m confused… If the House 702 reauthorization and extension is so bad, then why is Mike Turner saying your colleague Devin Nunes enthusiastically supports it? It seems there are more hidden agendas at play and much more going on than meets the eye.”
We shall see what he says if anything….
Do the functionaries have security clearance still?
You mean FORMER ‘functionaries’ like Kash, Nunes and Grinnell?
Not if Bidens guys are paying attention, no.
Once theres no need,…they SHOULD go on an inactive status at some point, but there are treepers who can speak with authority on this.
it is a power so awesome, so well protected, that it tempts anyone who approaches…even those that dare to take a glance, take it for a check ride.
while it is true that the ring that rules them all is a fictional analog, it is quite true.
the power to look into the lives of others…their most protected secrets, the private conversations and interests, what they buy, what they don’t, where they go and what they do…what they say AND HOW THEY SAY IT.
with this power, this intelligence, all other forms of control can be centered. It is THE most powerful and sinister tool that manmkind HAS EVERY PRODUCED.
If you know who you are, I can own you. I can influence you. I can trick you. I can force you to make decisions that are not in your own best interests.
when I was a young boy (this is a funny story), I bought these x ray glasses from the back of the mad magazine…I opened the box and put them on. the world looked different, but I could not see through the girls clothes. I squinted and everything.
So what did I do? of course, I bought another pair. Obviously this one was a dud.
and you know the rest of the story.
when full grown adults buy x ray glasses, they WORK. You get to see just about everything. And the “best part”? it’s legal…it’s authorized.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO USE THEM CORRUPTLY.
that’s the rule.
this is why you never hear of the secret police spy state announcing:
we used the x ray glasses and we foiled hamas
we used the x ray glasses and we put down the violent riots of antifa, blm
we used the x ray glasses and we caught joe malarkey and made sure he was indicted before he ran for office.
we used the x ray glasses and we stopped the wuhan lab from creating a bioweapon
we used the x ray glasses and we expelled pelosi and 500 plus members of congress who were using their office of access to enrich themselves.
you see, this power, it is absolute..and it corrupts absolutely. This is not a cliche’. It is very real. Look around, notice how perverted and just plan awful the people ARE who are centered around this ring.
protip: don’t allow yourself to become infected by this kind of power. No man or woman can withstand the temptations and the evil that envelops the soul. Do good things, and make your actions pleasing to God.
God Bless America
Comment of the evening, Regi.
Wow, regitiger another GREAT comment!
a PERFECT analogy!
I have felt the Power, just by proxie; “Imagine PDJT using this power, to expose all of the comms, of the conspirators, fir Russia, Russia, the “Insurance Policy”, the Covid Scamdemic, the 2020 Steal, …you just KNOW its ALL RIGHT THERE!
Hillary famously smashed cell phones with hammers,and bleachbitted her server, butbitsxALL RIGHTVTHERE in the NSA database.
And yet, knowing its,ALL THERE, she also KNEW, absoluteky positively that they would NEVER be acessed and made public, thru the NSA database, and ditto for the rest of them.
Sundance, who ever you are/he is -should be DJT vice president
Who else can be trusted?
A cherished sage and counselor, yes, on a stage playing politics?
Naw.
No. Kari Lake for VP.
And Sundance needs to stay on the outside, lobbing mortars, not going into the belly of the beast.
Mike Pompeo. Trust Kansas.
Bill Barr ? John Durham unavailable ?