In a three-page opinion and order [pdf Available Here], DC District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan outlines that she may be forced to pause the case against President Trump until the appellate court, and then likely the Supreme Court, make a decision on presidential immunity.
Within this opinion/order, we find the reason for Special Prosecutor Jack Smith to jump over the appellate court and ask the Supreme Court to expedite a review and determination on the issue.
The jurisdictional issue on the specifics of the pre-trial appeal is likely to slow down the trial dates being pushed by Special Prosecutor Smith. Overall, this has been a very bad day for the Lawfare team, as they run into judicial processes that cannot be facilitated by politically motivated higher courts.
Warm sun on a dog’s ass. Woot. We will take it.
Hey now, that warm sun feels real good at times.
Ask a grave digger.
In my teenage years, me and a buddy dug graves by hand for $50 each. Once you get about 5ft deep, it’s like standing in an oven in the winter sunshine!!
Woot. Woot.
The delay is likely good but I hate having to rely on a very unreliable Supreme Court. For example they just punted 3 COVID mandate related cases on technicalities versus merit.
on another front:
Court Tells Trump He’s 3 Years Too Late To Claim Immunity In E. Jean Carroll Case (msn.com)
While she’s, what, three decades late to claim anything at all?
Exactly. Hypocrisy on steroids.
Three years too late with the facelift.
And “E Jean” can’t even remember the year the alleged assault took place
She doesn’t remember because it never happened.
Democrats have the #1 position in America wait for it FUGLY women.. F**n Ugly as sin..Fat old creeps with blue and green hair nose rings LGBTQ misfits…
His response of “who, I wouldn’t touch her with your junk” is just awesome.
Hard to be sure how late she is, she couldn’t even remember what year it allegedly occurred.
I find this to be an odd ruling. He either has immunity or he doesn’t. If he has it, then non-action should not waive it.
Well maybe she took the Covid 19 vaccine.
Please quadruple the Secret Service protection on Clarence Thomas.
Also all other conservative justices.
Also president Trump.
More Angels, STAT!!
Nous le prions.
I am very leery of the string along game. You think think common sense and rule of law is kicking in, only to find out it is fixed in their favor.
Understandable, yet, as Hokkoda notes below, the longer things take the more opportunity for their fabulations to unravel as more information is brought out and properly parsed.
Something Sundance and the Treepers and some others are good at doing.
The Communists never learn; God Always Gets A Vote!
Yes. The longer these clowns continue their circus act the more they look like the court jesters they are. The longer they’re forced to maintain their juggling act the weaker and more tired their arms become, increasing the likelihood of them making serious mistakes.
As discussed earlier today, we are going to get hammered when the information highways are taken hostage.
We are and will, continue to be under an unending warrantless search. One side pauses to keep up appearance that rule of law is not completely gutted. While rule of law and freedom is gutted from a different direction.
And the vote rigging goes on.
Especially with the news of Smith’s (if that’s his real name) corruption in Europe took a big leap of exposure Wednesday for the world to see.
Link please…
Gateway Pundit 12/13 7:00 AM
TY. Found it. I always read Treehouse, then Pundit.
Welcome.
Revolver is good also DAREN Beaty as is zerohedge
Deep Capture reported on it before Gateway got it. Is Extortionist Jack Smith Being Extorted to Pursue Trump? – Deep Capture
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Lawfare’s goal is not fair lawyering, it is to use the courts to burden the defendant with legal costs, while creating public narratives and media content justifying political libel. As a bonus, it can also tie up the release of evidence in a never ending legal process. This incentivizes dragging it out forever.
Smoke and mirrors??
Exactamundo!!!! You win the prize today. 😁
Any bad day for lawfare scum is a good day for America
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/breaking-trump-prosecutor-jack-smith-alleged-role-extortion/
The gateway pundit article is a long read but well worth the time so as to better understand the need to bring Jack Smith, NOT Donald Trump to trial.
The guy really is dangerous (as are all the other fascist commies surrounding him and Old Joe).
Nuremberg 2.0 trials need to be held when the dust settles – immediately!
The Marxist/Globalist/Uniparty cabal is running out of alternative ways of controlling the liberty hydra.
The Wuhan Hoax failed and is being exposed. Election theft exposed. Ukraine exposed. Seth Rich being exposed. Russia Hoax exposed. J6 being exposed.
As Sundance explains, reaction to fear requires the imposition of control. Autocratic totalitarians are running out of other options, and the Julian Assange treatment may be unavailable with PDJT, which compels a choice among limited options, the Kennedy direct action being one of them.
These people have no moral brake, so there is no surprise as to how fear makes them react and the choices they deem available options. Their “intellectual approach” is failing. The Washington Post has already shadow opined on it.
No coincidences, no surprises, they’re running out of ideas and options for dealing with their losses and greatest fears.
This is the same administration that “protected” Justices by allowing protests at their home and denied any protection to RFK Jr.
Your desire is a good one. But they overcome our good desires with their bad behaviors.
Remember what happened to Antonin Scalia – He suicided himself with a pillow over His head while sleeping in a Democratic donor hunting lodge in Texas – no inquest. Obama did not attend His funeral either.
I agree, but as a black conservative my brother from another mother Clarence looks like someone who wishes some blue haired freak would come to his door. He strikes me as a 44 revolver guy. 😉
Getting a little frustrating Jack?
‘Have to wonder…When PDJT assumes the helm, does Smith think he’s just going to retreat back into the hague, and live happily ever after?
SEAL team found OBL, they’ll find this wanker and drag him back to his new home in Gitmo.
Hopefully Gitmo will be bursting at the seams with all the current political traitors we have running DC right now!
Better to let them have 3 hots and a cot for 7 days then send em along to the afterlife, by any means necessary. Give it right back to these commies
Frankly, they would have to evacuate the whole island of its current residents, then MAYBE they would have enough room.
He owns a home in the Netherlands.
He was, some say, brought here under duress, to throw himself against the wheels of the Trump Train, in order to escape prosecution for his extortions at The Hague.
Bet he wishes he were there now.
Patrick Byrne is not just “some” people. Read the whistleblower complaint, and his commentary on it.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2023/12/extortionist-jack-smith-is-being-extorted-to-pursue-trump/
I’ve read it.
Not going to discount it at all, suspect it may well be so, hope to see Sundance address it perhaps.
It sure it matters. Somebody from the lawfare side was going to do this once they made up their mind. Any one of a number of Weissman’s team would have jumped at this, knowing they’re making it up out of whole cloth.
Byrne was a FBI former informant he knows what he is talking about… Make no mistake..
He is also a billionaire under Buffett’s apprenticeship..
Now that you mention it, Jack ‘s extortions are coming to light again.See > BREAKING: Trump Prosecutor, Jack Smith’s Alleged Role In Extortion Scheme While At the International Court of Justice Is Revealed | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
Is that the reason Jack has the eyes of a deer caught in headlights perpetual look.
Love it , Remington. Nice to see you!
Wanker is right. Nice choice of words!!!
I think Jackie boy has some kosovars waiting for him in the hague for a nice reunion. Alalalala awaits him.
They want a way out the indictments have failed and only made Trump stronger and now a Martyr… Per Bill Burr on Bill Maher the other day..He is 100% correct…
Jacksputin, the Mad Monk of Mendacity, is indeed deranged, and likely a mite miffed to boot.
Tant mieux!
Amin!!
Such a great picture of President Trump! 😍😍😍. 💥🇺🇸TRUMP 2024🇺🇸💥.
“that she may be forced to pause the case against President Trump until the appellate court”
Interesting that this rabid DEI hire has finally been faced with something she just cannot ignore.
And that’s the larger point. She can’t just shove her bias down the throats of the defense team to keep this kabuki action going as fast as she wants.
This goes back to a fun point I made many moons ago: look how long the Mike Flynn persecution was dragged out using appeals and waiting for rulings. Yes, Emit Smith was corrupt. But the work Sydney Powell did forced Mueller into a years-long process during which we learned that Flynn’s case was utterly fraudulent.
Time is not on the side of Lawfraud. The longer these cases stay in the courts, the harder it gets for them to conceal their actions. For example, somewhere there are meeting notes or text messages from the White House or between GSA and DOJ where they coordinate their hits on Trump. These long court processes eventually lead to sunlight.
The J6 tapes for example…if this trial had started in October, maybe we never get to see those and Trump never gets to use them. Now he can. That’s why Smith worked so hard to block their release…
It’s increasingly likely these cases go past Election Day 2024. That means we are probably looking at some form of martial law from the current regime. Remember: always assume what they accuse us of I s something they are planning or executing.
Anyway, if you want truth, time is on your side.
The sad part is how quickly the trajectory is narrowing towards violence and suspension of the law. The Democrats and eGOP – just like in Ukraine – can’t just walk back the “Trump is Hit-ler” stuff. That means violence that will dwarf 2020, enabling the regime to create lockdowns allowing mail in vote fraud on a larger scale.
2024 likely ends in violence. If Trump wins, the inauguration will be from a bunker somewhere.
Well Emmitt Smith, retired Cowboys running back, and my all-time fave, is a pretty good guy.
I believe you mean Emmitt Sullivan, faux judge and corruptocrat extraordinaire 😉
lol ty
Of course, we all knew who you meant. There’s no mistaking that fraudulent jurist. And just poking fun ☺️
The Soul Patch Solon, spit!
That is Emmet Sullivan, faux judge, as long as you are correcting Hokoda.
Aw, thanks T47 for the lesson. Spelling aside
there’s a passel of difference in character between Emmet and Emmitt.
“That means we are probably looking at some form of martial law from the current regime. “
A standing army is one of the greatest mischief that can possibly happen. Without standing armies liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones safe. A standing military force, with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.
– James Madison (“The Father of the United States Constitution”)
“we are probably looking at some form of martial law from the current regime”
I hope our Constitutional process will peacefully remove the Biden Regime. But, in matters of “conflict”, the other side always gets a say in how “the conflict” will be resolved – Peaceful / Constitutional vs the Dem version of Mostly Peaceful / Burning down Cities. The Dems know if Trump is sworn into office, then a high probability some people will be held accountable for their crimes – going to jail. So, the DeepState will do/incite almost anything to stop Trump. It may get Big Ugly. Best to individually prepare for Civil unrest, which may be forced upon us. Even more important, we need to individually Get Right with God in our own lives.
Does expressing an opinion mean getting on a Govt List, or a visit from Federal Bureau of Intimidation? Asking for a Friend.
Certainly hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
I am not convinced there will be martial law, although not discounting it, either.
In the history rhyming, I find it fascinating will be in CHICAGO, Illinois.
I well remember the one in 1968, and I am wondering whether once again leftists “going to far” will trigger a backlash?
Oh, and the GOP Convention will be in Milwaukee, WI — should be a jolly old time there too.
I’m worried about what will happen after Trump wins the election. (between 11/24 and 1/20/25)
They very specifically used technicalities to delay Flynns case, for ONE REASON, …because as an Oct. surprise 2020, they wanted the headline;
“Trumps Natl. Security Advisor, who plead GUILTY, is sentenced…”
Frankly, they COULD have sentenced him much sooner, AFTER he HAD pled Guilty, and well BEFORE he hired Sidney.
It was NOT neccesary to postpone his sentencing, in order to get his cooperation, that was all a ruse.
And so, it was their own “greediness” you might say, that was their undoing.
Not taking anything from Sidney, her filings were each things of beauty.
Not to worry Trump wins in a landslide 2024 per AJ ..Two things promise to close the border day 1 day 2 drill baby drill …Hokkoda I love your take they do want violence 100% I agree …
Made a mess of everything again Jackie?
“She may be forced to pause…”
Forced being the operative word.
And so the epic battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness continues.
My understanding is that the next conference for the justices is in January. I believe there are emergency procedures where they can consider whether to take a case with a telephone conference, for example, but that would be highly unusual.
I believe the conferences are weekly. At the conference, they do not consider the entire docket of cases. The briefs are circulated among the justices first and briefing memos prepared, and the Chief Justice decides what cases will be discussed at the conference. Again, I believe there are emergency procedures that would allow them to take a case urgently (such as for a pending execution), but the more normal process would be for them to issue a stay and consider the case in due course.
Remember that what the justices are going to discuss in the conference isn’t the merits of the case, but whether they are going to take it at all on an expedited basis bypassing the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. If they don’t take it, then it goes back to the DC Circuit for its appellate process, after which either party can then go through this appeal process at the Supreme Court again.
Although if enough justices want to consider it immediately they can act quickly, the odds are that this Supreme Court dance will go on well past March 4. If it gets kicked back to the DC Circuit, that’s a guarantee that the March 4 trial date can’t be met. If the Supreme Court wants to hear the merits, there probably won’t be a decision until June.
May the Conspirators twist in the very wind they strive to bring down on PDJT and America.
Good response Jim B.
Its a tricky procedural matter for the SC and l am not talking about the merits of presidential immunity etc.
Generally you do not leapfrog one court over another in an appeal sequence. There is an established pathway which is aimed at the development and testing of the judicial reasonings throughout that pathway, and then those reasonings come before the SC, where as a panel of judges, all of that legal argument is distilled into their individual opinions.
It would be a most uncomfortable position for the SC if they were to accept that a Special Counsel can, in effect, go straight to their door, when at the same time or prior, a defendant has invoked the appeal process at the correct court level. It would set a very lop sided precedent. It would be safer for them to send the matter back down to the DC Court of Appeals, allow them to hear such an appeal and wait to see if the mater comes back to them in due course.. This way, they have kept their powder dry.
On the other hand, there are SOME cases that are INHERENTLY Constitutional issues, and so routinely ARE fast tracked, such as State vs State, or State vs Fed. gov. or so I understand.
Seems to me the question Smith is asking the Court IS a fundamental Constitutional question, but I admit I could be wrong.
Either way, it seems clear that A) Smith is NOT going to get the timing he wanted, with the court case pr campaign adversely effecting PDJT’s campaign, B) their plan that these prosecutions could be used to give the RNC an excuse to refuse PDJT the nomination is falling apart.
IMHO
You admit that you are possibly in error? I must note the date and time of this admission. My up vote is for your last paragraph.
Going back to the Session wars, here in CTH comment section in 2017? I have made it a policy to assert my opinions openly, but when events proved me wrong to loudly and at least as openly admit when I have been wrong.
Its EASY to never be wrong; just never assert an opinion.
Or, with the anonimity afforded here, if a commenters position is proved by events to have been wrong, they just disappear and come back with a new screen name.
Anyway, I believe I have a record of admitting the many times I have been wrong, eating crow and bad once you get used to it.
The other twist in these prosecutions is that they have increased President Trump’s popularity. De Santis thought the way was being cleared for him when they raided Mar a Lago and so did the deep state at Justice Department. Nope!
The reverse is true. Trump’s popularity and esteem with Black and Hispanic communities has doubled , and the MAGA crowd has only grown more loyal with each indictment.
Well darn it. “The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry.”
You are right in the sense that this is a fundamental constitutional issue, which is appropriate for the SC to take but whether that is now or later, is for the SC to decide.
I would like to think that the SC will protect itself by telling the Special Counsel to direct his application to the DC Court of Appeals first. This negates the leap frog approach to them and in any event, they already have accepted the J6 Fischer appeal. That should be heard first as it touches and concerns the same statute, and if l were on the DC Court of Appeals, l would schedule the Trump/Special Counsel matter afterwards. I would be able to study the written opinions of the SC and then it is for the DC Court to interpret that accordingly.
The statute concerned is already the subject of differing legal opinions, and the relevant sub clause is hooked by the words ” whomsoever corruptly ” that is an intent pre qualifier and requires further legal examination – almost on a case by case basis, as these are not quite the same for each individual. It needs clear legal reasoning.
The main problem is that they are harnessing a statute that was really intended for a post Enron environment, so once a target knew that they were under investigation, if they started or completed destruction of the evidence ( obstruction/interference with an official/official proceeding etc ) then the DOJ could slap them with these sub clauses as a ‘ sweep up ‘ provision to jail them even though the original prosecution died for lack of evidence etc.
From what I have seen past few years the SC is going to punt in the way that cause THEM the least pain and accountability.
So what is that? Send it to lower court to be chewed over thereby kicking the grenade down the road?
And Judge Cannon, a la Dale Earnhart, is currently blocking the May 20 lane to the election forcing Chutkan to leap frog her trial into 2024. Then Cannon can move her trial. Or, Cannon could get started with the trial and not finish, possibly declaring a mistrial forcing Smith to start over.
Cannon staked out this slot first. This is where Chutken needs to be.
Also, the March 6, 2024 is an unconstitutional rush which would violate The 5th and 6th Amendment
Thank you, Sundance. You “is ’bout the splendidest ‘splainer they is”, as William Greenhill describes Miss Cecilia, his Sunday School teacher, in the book Miss Minerva and William Greenhill.
The ball is in your court, SCOTUS, and I pray that you will do the right and constitutional thing, because in the end you will all stand before the judge over ALL judges.
perhaps, but… “judicial processes that cannot be facilitated by politically motivated higher courts.”
i am unclear why we should presume SCOTUS is NOT politically motivated. they have repeatedly proven otherwise.
They could cause a nightmare they must give immunity..
“The jurisdictional issue on the specifics of the pre-trial appeal is likely to slow down the trial dates being pushed by Special Prosecutor Smith.”
“The process is the punishment…….”
Well, I guess that works both ways now, doesn’t it.
It’s rare to get good news.
I hope it gets boring
If any of these made up charges hold up in court, then future presidents will not be able to govern. The courts will have more power than the executive branch. I don’t think the corrupt politicians want their future corrupt establishment presidents unable to ‘govern’. Then again, the end justifies the means. Hopefully, President Trump wins and orders his DOJ to prosecute the crony capitalist donors and lobbyists plus stop foreign money. It’s the only way. Cut the head of the snake.
And, THIS is WHY this is a case that requires the Supremes to weigh in, AND why they will and must decide in PDJT’s favor; because if they don’t they kneecap every future POTUS.
Well, even kangaroos need a break.
I expect there will soon be a sudden surge of activity out of the NY, GA and FL lawfare theaters of war. When the offensive effort stalls on one front all good Soviets know their job is to push forward on all other fronts.
Very True – at least Leakwise – expect to see the faucets turned on full – they need to keep the narrative on track regardless – “Trump facing legal jeopardy on multiple fronts “ yada , yada
This farce will do down in history as one of many unbelievably evil, blatant unconstitutional crimes against the Real President Trump.
The swamp simply cannot have a Patriot severing their corrupt feasting off the American people.
The courts are influenced as equally by public opinion as they are by the law… maybe not equally.
🎯 A Stab to the heart of Weissman
Any bad day for the Lawfare team
is a fantastic day for me👏👏
The left has a serious problem….
While they are smart & evil in their ways, there is one thing I learned long ago in my professional days that can’t be undone no matter how hard you try or how cunning & brilliant you think you are – you can’t stop the truth!
No different than “one lie inevitably leads to a series of other lies to keep it going”, once the “truth” is allowed to see the light of day, it will begin to uncover other truths until the lie can no longer exist. This is why the corrupt (Dems/GOP’ers) always expend the most energy to try & prevent the first truth from being revealed.
Stay positive, keep the prayers coming, make the popcorn & enjoy the ride, the thread is starting to be unraveled & will begin to snowball. This is why any delay in these sham prosecutions is a BIG win even if it doesn’t seem so at the time.
Be courageous, Stay Strong & Allow the Truth to set us free.
PS. Always a shout out to the “The Mouth Breathing – Oxygen Thief” aka Dan Crenshaw (R-TX)
Excellent!
Another excellent!
Smith needs a different necktie
The “Narco” type of necktie?
So basically we should prepare to abide the non-stop drum beat by the Democrats and their minions the Press screaming that Clarence Thomas must recuse because that’s all how they roll?
Time to send fan letters to Clarence.
I greatly admire Justice Thomas’s ability to ignore the critics and do the right thing.
We pray the higher courts have not been corrupted too..
NOW it makes sense! I thought it was reckless, foolish (whatever) for Smith to make the request to expidite directly to SCOTUS on this question, as I believe it is highly likely SCOTUS will cut the legs out from under him…now I see he effectively had no choice.
IF I am right, all the time PDJT has spent fighting the insane NY case is well spent, BECAUSE it displayed just how insanely stupid this whole lawfare assault is, and because the NY case may be the only one that gets thru to conviction and appeal.
100% correct
They realize they are making Trump a martyr …..
Actually, its even WORSE than that, for them.
Its like they are martyering him, and so triggering the martyer responce, over and over and over again.
“The longer feces stays out on the floor the more its stink will become obvious,”Confucius says.
Anyone else notice the crazy eyes that Smith character has? He looks like some meth addict wandering the streets at 2am.
Hunter from another mother.
Any evidence he’s not?
Jack Smith News:
https://scnr.com/article/whistleblower-complaint-says-special-prosecutor-jack-smith-involved-in-international-extortion-scheme_af9f965a99c311ee9c930242ac1c0002
“A new whistleblower filing alleges that Special Counsel Jack Smith, while working at the International Court of Justice, spent years running an overseas extortion ring targeting wealthy and high-profile public officials.”
souless eyes….
It’s a very good explanation for the McDonald case.
This comes in the same week that Jack Smith is named as “an active participant in a scheme that extorted millions of dollars from wealthy individuals targeted for investigation and/or prosecution by the Kosovo Specialist Prosecutor’s Office. Smith served as the Specialist Prosecutor from May 7, 2018, to November 18, 2022, at which time he was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to serve as the Special Counsel” to investigate Trump.
https://scnr.com/article/whistleblower-complaint-says-special-prosecutor-jack-smith-involved-in-international-extortion-scheme_af9f965a99c311ee9c930242ac1c0002
No worries. Lawfare has plans B and C set up in case.
And Deathfare, otherwise known as assassination-fare operates on parallel tracks.
And finally of course there’s cheatinginelections is fair -fare. They’re always standing by.
The Roberts court will not protect Trump.
It’s not about Trump. It’s about the Presidency. God willing, in a few years Biden is going to being prosecuted for money laundering and bribery. The Court is going to need to make it clear that Presidents are at least as immune as any other government official for acts taken in the course of performing their duties, while they are not immune for acts that are not part of their duties.
Judge and jury; it takes impeccable morals as well as legal knowledge.
But ‘social justice’ has seeped into the US courts like it’s colleges, schools, businesses, politics, even Churches.
Intentional mind boggling propaganda, control, mass migration, heinous death rate when abortion is included, and laws can corrupt with impunity.
God Help US
SCOTUS with 3 morally good judges would cost a lot less both monetarily and legally. Judge and jury in the hands of the fewest would be easier. The ancillary of the SCOTUS costs are astronomical, and more easily corrupted, too. Bribery and blackmail of Judge and Jury is rampant IMHO.
Pedophelia is the most ‘protected’ CRIME in the world, especially in the legal world.
PAWatcher, which 3 are morally good judges? Assuming you meant Alito, Thomas and maybe Gorsuch. The rest, including McConnell’s picks from the Federalist Society, are not constitutionalists by any means. Kavanaugh has been traumatized (and helped author parts of the Patriot Act under GWB regime), ConeyBarrett, I believe, will sway in the wind, and the rest? The new DEI- appointed justice and the others are enemies of the Constitution so we can only guess which way they will decide.
So the only reason for Smith to Jump to the SC is to make sure there is no disruption of the proposed election interference March timeline . Obviously that is not a valid reason , in and of itself , to rush to judgment of an important issue regarding Presidential powers and immunity .
How the SC reacts to this unprecedented situation will tell us if the SC is really the institution it purports to be or if it has become a Rubber Stamp for the Lawfare fanatics … they have 3 votes in their pocket already regardless of the facts , so …. ? ( and will there be leaks 2.0?)
This could be a scripted delay by our corrupted judicial system. Timing is everything and having a Trump trial in late summer early fall will tie Trump up in courtroom and off the campaign trail while providing plenty of media fodder to convince the sheeple of Trump’s criminality.
Imagine that a pause in the persecution!
‘Lil Jack Shit should consume feces and expire.
MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
In the last few weeks I am constantly having to reload the pages on CTH. This is not happening with other sites. Is anyone else having this issue?
I have not experienced this. But I am quite certain that at various times the servers are quite busy.
I had the same problem all of last week.
Yesterday and today not at all.
Has anyone or political entity thought about an opposing strategy/tactic to the Dem’s use of Lawfare? I am talking about the big picture…not just each of these battles within the entire war.
Stephen Miller, with AmericaFirstLegal is ONE responce, and they are filing lawsuits on a regular basis, attacking the woke barstuds.
States of Loisianna and Missouri are doing exciting things with their A.G.’s pursueing MAGA cases, and very importantly BEING REWARDED FOR IT.
You will always get More of a behavior you reward.
The A.G.’S from these two States joined Jim Hoft in the censorship lawsuit: the A.G. for Missouri was rewarded with a,Senate seat, and Loisianna, with a Governorship.
THIS encourages their replacements to take on similar cases; its HOW Politics works.
Texas, along with The Federalist, sued the State Department about censorship.
Biden weaponized the swamp creatures at the DOJ and FBI
to go after Trump and associates. This is very dangerous.
This will turn the Republic into a lawless Banana Republic.
He will get immunity if he dont its sets a precedent no one wants in their right mind nightmare time. But they can buy the judges Oligarchs could pay the judges though various methods*** as SD says why trillions @ stake.
Me thinks they are looking for a way out this Indictment shit has backfired bigly Trump is now a Martyr !!!! AJ says Trump by a landslide huge**** #s…My opinion is all Trump has to say elect me I will close the border day ! Day 2 I will drill baby drill..
The SCOTUS has been ruling about Article 2 and the powers and prerogatives of The President for more than two hundred years. Section 3, for example, charges this ‘one-person Executive Branch’ to: “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Since he obviously perceived that the Federal crime of election fraud was taking place on his watch, it was his Duty to “take Care.” This means speaking up and taking action.
It is the Executive’s own sovereign decision how to carry out his Oath of Office. His powers are “plenary.” His prerogatives are absolute. His role is defined by the Constitution itself, which declares one person to be “a co-equal Branch of government.”
All of this is already “long-settled Law.” These cases are routinely covered in every law school, very early on.
The only thing that you can do is to throw him out of office. But even this, as the Constitution takes pains to make clear, is not itself a criminal indictment.
“Lawfare” picked the wrong target: the Constitution itself.
Mike; I sincerely appreciate your insightful and rational comments. Please continue to opine and comment for the continued edification of us non-legal experts.
Thanks so much.
Mike;
I agree and would add my understanding is that the ONLY way to criminally prosecute a POTUS for actions while in office, is FIRST to Impeach AND CONVICT him, which THEN paves the way for criminal prosecution.
The question Smith put to SCOTUS is, “is there no way a POTUS can be prosecuted ? suppose he/she murdered someone in broad dayilight while on television?”
Well, the Constituition and the Founders say FIRST you Impeach in the House, CONVICT in the Senate,…THEN sure you can prosecute them in criminal court.
But barring a conviction in the Senate, no you can NOT prosecute them in criminal court, and they should not even have been charged.
Otherwise any President can be charged by any prosecutor, and just the threat of such prosecutions after leaving office, can compromise the Presidency.
I disagree. Impeachment has nothing to do with the criminal process. It’s just basically an employment decision. The Electoral College hired you, and because there is no such thing as a federal recall election, the Senate can fire you for reasons brought to them by the House.
I believe where the Court is ultimately going to come out is that Presidents are at least as immune as all other government officials from criminal prosecution for acts taken in the course of their duties and are not immune for crimes that have nothing to do with performance of their duties.
I disagree not in principal, but in that politicians will not hold their own accountable.
For instance, we may not be far from finding out that, just making up an example out of the blue, no basis in fact, that a certain communist country bribed a US official by paying for his beach house.
If their term of office expires before this is found out, the DOJ should string them up. Impeachment not relevant.
We are near the point of collapse in our justice system, because of the lawfare BS you pointed out.
The left sees that these cases are backfiring. They utterly lacked the intelligence necessary to see that Donald Trump would not run from them and that people all across the spectrum of voters would rally to him.
So, they are cheating in court just as they will cheat on the vote counting. In court, they lose a round here and there but they have brought so many charges they won’t lose all of them at once.
The lawfare group is not at risk of being found out, they don’t care if they are. They have Garland.
They do remain at huge risk if these cases get to trial. The plan used against so many defendants to win by sanction, as in the Jones trials, Giuliani case, and the absurd financial statement case, is nonoperative in Judge Cannon’s court.
They can’t win at trial in a fair court and Trump will not quit. So, they need these cases to go away in a way that let’s them still blame Trump. Immunity is the perfect answer. We will have to see what happens.
When I was a kid, the question was what did the president know, and when did he know it.
Today, the question is what did the president’s family do for all these millions, and how did they do it.
Hunter answered as completely as you will ever see yesterday. The crescendo will rise. MSM can ignore it, the left can ridicule it, but it will grow and consume the country.
Complicated Business, as DJT would say.
The thing about Joes corruption is,…as valuable to Americas enemies as having corrupted Joe do there bidding is, having his corruption exposed may actually be MORE valuable to THEM, in tearing down our country.
We will always be better of to rid ourselves of criminals in office.
This lunatic is actually killing people and may yet start a global conflagration.
Good to hear from you Dutch. Take care of yourself.
Its about time for Barrett and Kavanaugh to show some spine
It will be interesting to see how the case before the Court by the DoJ unfolds.
If the core of the question is … does immunity apply if a crime is proven?
Then the facts surrounding the Government’s January 6th case vs President Trump will never see the light of day in this case.
Yet, it is interesting that Election Impropriety cases brought before courts by those claiming PA, MI, WI and GA State Election Laws were being violated in 2020, prior to November were told they had no standing because the elections had not yet been conducted (i.e. no crimes had been proven … making the question a moot case). Here we have another unproven crime spawning a DoJ question that was moved to the Court for Consideration … go figure.
It will all depend on the scope and context of the question(s) posed by the DoJ.
Obama told the judge to wait up, ’cause it might be important to him someday!
Wish I was kidding…
Definetly applies to Joe, and if you accept my “take” its vital that Joe be Impeached by the House, and Convicted by the Senate IF he is to be charged in criminal court with any crimes.