Everything happening in/around the courtroom of Judge Engoron in New York City has been ridiculous in the extreme.
Even left leaning pundits and political commentators have begun to retreat from the fevered pace of the NY civil case because they can see the appeals court intervening.
Earlier today appellate judge David Friedman finally intervened in the insufferable gag order and put some common sense back into the case putting a stay on the lower court order.
NEW YORK (AP) — A gag order that barred Donald Trump from commenting about court personnel after he disparaged a law clerk in his New York civil fraud trial was temporarily lifted Thursday by an appellate judge who raised free speech concerns.
Judge David Friedman of the state’s intermediate appeals court issued what’s known a stay — suspending the gag order and allowing the former president to freely comment about court staff while a longer appeals process plays out.
The trial judge, Arthur Engoron, imposed the gag order on Oct. 3 after Trump made a false comment about the judge’s law clerk on social media. He later fined Trump $15,000 for violations and expanded it to his lawyers after they questioned the clerk’s prominent role in the trial.
Ruling at an emergency hearing Thursday, Friedman questioned Engoron’s authority to police Trump’s speech outside the courtroom — such as his frequent gripes about the case on social media and in comments to TV cameras in the courthouse hallway.
Friedman said that while it’s true that judges often issue gag orders, they’re mostly used in criminal cases where there’s a fear that comments about the case could influence the jury. Trump’s civil trial doesn’t have a jury.
Trump lawyer Christopher Kise said after Friedman ruled that the appellate judge “made the right decision and allowed President Trump to take full advantage of his constitutional First Amendment rights to talk about bias in his own trial, what he’s seeing and witnessing in his own trial — which, frankly, everyone needs to see.”
Another Trump attorney, Alina Habba, indicated she has no plans to advise the former president to stay quiet about the clerk. (read more)
The temporary pause in Engoron’s gag orders comes as a separate, more sweeping gag order on Trump in his criminal case in Washington, D.C. has also been lifted pending oral arguments before an appeals court scheduled for Monday.
LAWFARE unraveling?
We will see.
just one star in the sky
there are millions more
1 star is all that is needed to show the truth.
Amen, amen. Set the truth free.
“There is one thing, and only one thing, in which it is granted to you to be free in life, all else being beyond your power: that is to recognize and profess the truth.” — Leo Tolstoy
Love Him.
Mat 27:13 Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
Mat 27:14 And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
Not always.
Twinkle twinkle little star….
Hopefully!
More like the corrupt administration unraveling.
The likely fear of lawfare by this ruling against this leftist wackjob judge is they’ll not be quite as free to advise the judge during this farce trial through the notes passed to him by his clerk. PDT can go public about this leftist clerk and her constantly passing notes to the idiot in a black robe
We shall have a jury of our peers. How is this even possible what Engoron-moron is doing
The U.S. Constitution never guaranteed a defendant a “jury of their peers”, even though many people parrot that line – falsely. This is US Constitution Amendment VI, as it refers to a defendant’s rights to a jury trial.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Nowhere in this clause is a “jury of… peers” mentioned; but only an impartial jury – which the Jan6 defendants never received. Nor will President Trump, if he is forced to go to trial in the District of Corruption.
I do believe the point Marcia was making was that President Trump has been denied a trial by jury whether of his peers or not. The judge said he could not have a trial by jury and that he would decide the case. That is the point.
Isn’t the clerk a Soros critter and an OBiden Regime lackey?
Stalinist lawyers are like rust.
You can’t get rid of them. By normally acceptable means, that is.
These are extraordinary times, though.
Ah, but rust eventually destroys itself and crumbles into nothing more than
dust.
Without media lap dogs Lawfare doesn’t operate well.
The Defunding and Decline of the Media
https://voxday.net/2023/11/15/the-defunding-and-decline-of-the-media/
Without a gag order, media lapdogs have a much harder time at spinning whatever they need to convince someone the walls are closing in on whomever they are targeting.
Actually, in terms of the legal case, and the case being tried in the Court of public opinion, this gag order is really not of much impact or importance, one way or the other.
Objectively, it really doesn’t…
Right as usual.
But… every little bit helps…
Now we just have to keep the alternative media (our modern Samizdat) from being completely throttled by the fourth branch.
Onward, eSamizdat.
He’s worth reading for the nuggets like this but there’s a lot of wasted pixels as well.
No. They expect to lose. The court cases are only to use for an anti Trump narrative during the primary and presidential campaigns. By the time he wins the court cases, the elections will be over.
A secondary target might be to destroy the Trump businesses.
The primary reason is for the prosecutors fame and fortune, IMO. Win or lose, doesn’t matter.
Lawfare? Unraveling?
Ummmm……I don’t think Lawfare was ever wrapped too tight to begin with.
i look forward to hearing more about the clerk that writes down what the Judge should say.
She likely has a microphone in one of her ears and is writing what she is told so that Engron knows what to say.
Exactly. She is merely relaying the Lawfare-directed step-by-step tactics for EngMoron to follow through every session. Surprised the Defense never challenged her to see if she is using a wireless receiver to receive audio or text from outside the courtroom. Can’t see that being legal if true.
You know they don’t care about “legal”.
Sure. But their boldness does not remove or change the law. We just need a court / judge to “grow a set”, step up and enforce the law.
My gut says Trump could get this al tossed by a direct appeal, but he wants the world to witness the step-by-step corruption and the lengths to which they will go with corrupted judges and prosecutors who are using tortured interpretations of law (Lawfare) to get his candidacy stopped, or to carry on long enough to erode support for PDJT.
They must be taking gas as they watch his poll number rise and remain impenetrable despite their smears and accusations.
So, at a certain point don’t we have to ask “then WHY do WE?”
I share your frustration.
I agree. I think she’s giving him commands from Monaco HQ.
Lyin’ Lisa? That’s a fair bet.
Ah yes! That was the lackey whose name I was trying to remember…
Lol, if so they ought to find a way to hack into the signal, and give her different directions.
THAT could be,….fun.
That would be hysterical!!!!
Hah ! Or just outright jam (block) it altogether.
Such unlawful communication could easily be detected and jammed, even from outside the building. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
HackRF and such tools make it easy-peasy. Not suggesting anyone near such a trial do so, of course… Our Democracy!
“our Bureaucracy”
“our Corruptocracy”
What do you wanna bet the courtroom is wired and the likes of lawyers like wiesmann are in the other room listening and prosecuting this case through the clerk?
Oh no! They’d never stoop that low! 🤣🤣🤣
Practicing to be 0biden’s next aide?
Have all the republican lawyers that are office holders in dc put a self imposed gag order on themselves because of Trump derangement syndrome? These nitwits can be replaced.
Yes. Exactly. Nowhere to be found and secretly supportive
Not secretive, at all.
Quite blatant about it, in many cases.
so blatant they wear it like a badge of honor
The Appellate Judge should of stayed the whole trial. What a joke
That wasn’t the ask.
A glimmer of ethical common sense. Pray that it catches on to become a full bright fire.
God has chosen President Trump for this time and this place. His Will be done.
Amen, amen!
and amen!
A good anthem: https://youtu.be/YmYOQ8h4wsM?feature=shared
“For Such A Time As This” by Wayne Watson is very appropos. Thanks Paul!
Made-up crimes, fake trials, fake process, and real punishment! Only under this disgusting and criminal regime.
Eh, I can think of a few other regimes.
No American ones, though.
It is what Jesus endured. May He be strengthened.
This whole case is complete and utter Bravo Sierra.
FUBAR.
And I’m one of the “older ones “ to know that originally meant:
Fowled Up Beyond All Recognition.
Close.
That’s the family friendly version.
Can’t shut PDJT up, or shut us down.
NONE of these cases will ultimately ‘prevail’ nor will any of the 14thA cases, either.
The original PLAN is collapsing; USE these cases to suppress PDJT’s support, even as they built up RDS or “Somebody else” in the polls and primaries, IN ORDER TO give the RNC an excuse to deny PDJT the nomination.
Another in a long line of utter failures of our enemies.
Even their “successes” are really “sacrifice plays” where their short term gains are overshadowed by long term losses.
Kinda like Washington during the American Revolution, huh?
What was that thing we discussed the other day about wearing ‘them’ down and out?
Order of the day: “Stay the course!”
Hold the line, at least thru Nov 2024, and perhaps for considerably longer,…which means PACE YOURSELF.
With today’s educations system in place, and the indoctrination of the youth at all levels, it is going to be a while to deprogram and bring the ship back on a even keel.
Staying the course for ever.
Yes, but where does Trump go to get all his money back that he has had to spend defending himself in this kangaroo court proceeding? Where does he apply to get his lost time back? When can he expect the Leftist TDS media to issue retractions and corrections to the record just as loudly and just as prominently as they screamed their accusations against Trump? When do his kids who were dragged onto the stand to testify get their justice? The process is the punishment and that boob in black robes will be seen as a sacrificial “martyr” to the cause when he gets slapped.
Sue Baby Sue.
Wow,…o.k. firstly PDJT has shown himself to be quite adept at legally finessing the tax code.
HOW are his legal expenses NOT a legitimate tax deduction as a business expense, pretell?
Certainly this case with erdogan in NYS is unquestionably a business expense.
And, as he IS running for POTUS, every case where they are trying to use the 14thA to keep him off the ballot, and he has lawyers argueing on his behalf, is deductable.
He has probably gotten over 1 Billion $ in “free media” coverage by the msm, coverage he WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN, if not for these indictments.
And with every indictment, and every arraignment, and every gag order, his donations have gone up by millions, his poll #’s have jumped by 10+ points,..and his donations IN have far exceeded his legal fees OUT, which are probably on tetainer AND tax deductible.
In short, he is PROFITING from this whole enterprise,…THATS what he does. Have you not tead his 2nd book “The Art of the comeback”?
And even Tucker is willing to put up the MAX in contributions should he be convicted.
Plus, on the emotional side…
…It’s pretty clear that our Lion is thriving on this challenge. He’s tired, yes – but the rallies, where he tells the truth to thousands of strong supporters, refuel him every time…
He’s fit and in fighting form.
But Chrispy Creme sweats up and down that Trump will be in jail by Spring.
He also has visions of grand manure….
Chrispy Creme also appears to think that “sweatin” (I see whatcha did there) proves he (Chrispy) is a good-lookin hunka burnin luv…
Quite the imagination there!
We got him now.
Yet even with the stays, the abuse of power, the rights infringement, and the blatant bias…This stupid judge will find him “guilty.”
There is no justice in this country anymore.
Also, Sundance, you are sorely missed.
Great artwork, accompanying this article.
So appropriate, you would almost think Sundance fully anticipated this would be the outcome, and so had the artwork ready to go.
Of COARSE this Judge will find PDJT guilty, actually HE ALREADY HAS.
THIS trial, is just to detirmine the amount of his fine.
He will rule, the MSM will spin it as a Court ruling he is guilty of fraud, doesn’t matter its CIVIL, so not “guilty” and the case will ne made (in the Court of Public Opinion) that this means he should A) not be on the ballot B) not be given the Republican’t nomination.
Eventually appeals court WILL overturn, in 2025.
We KNOW the script, its boring, predictable and its only value is to pussh your buttons; don’t LET it!
Don’t have time for getting my buttons pushed. Too busy preparing for the holidays, a market crash, skyrocketing food prices, flu season, and WWIII.
likely to not withstand the expected appeal. That’s one of the parts of this corrupt court room we have to understand.
IT AIN’T OVER UNTIL ITS OVER
Odds of this cases resolution surviving appeal?,…-0-
The stupid judge has already found him guilty BEFORE the trial even happened. This trial is just about assessing damages which are going to be crippling. God willing the appellate court throws out the verdict. They’ve been very good on slapping down this judge.
Not even a trial – it is a tribunal as in a dictatorship.
Finally, a tiny island of sanity and reason in a swirling sea of legal malfeasance, corruption, and deceit.
Eric Levine, a Scott donor, is now all Haley
says Trump will convicted and he will be finished
would not say that he would vote for Trump if he is the nominee
which is fine cuz I’m gonna find out who takes his cash and scratch them off the list for my vote
esp Nimerota
Our enemies are engaging in “hopium” and thats certainly a good sign!
Considering their desperate moves from one loser to another, perhaps they are on Hoppium!
Kemp is meeting with state level Georgia loyalists, POMPEO, and ‘major’ donors in Adairsville, GA on 11/29.
Has a $80M war chest that can be accessed.
On deck?
Maybe they could check with Jeb Bush to find out what a $100,000M war chest did for him.
Runt just blew $200M!
In delightfully entertaining vain.
$100 Billion?
Never was so much owned by so few to be so many.
they launder through elections in all countries via companies.
Pompeo wow.
LOL. Brine ain’t going nowhere. He’s allowing Fani Willis to continue, has enabled the selection corruption. WEF speaker, the scandalous Rivian gimme. He’s got no support from real conservatives in GA.
Nimrota tanked her own campaign the other day with her censorship comments.
Oooh, nice, I missed that…
WINNING! This is a good day…A day of normal. It’s absurd that normal seems unusual and a reason to find joy, but these are the damnedest of years these last several.
SO LOOKING FORWARD to listening to President Trump SPEAK ABOUT THE CORRUPTORS.
God Bless America
✅
And after President Trump wins in 24 I’m looking forward to retribution, extreme retribution.
Reckoning would even be better.
Wreckening?
They are bastards.
nothing beats success. Once President Trump puts his team together and formalizes a AMERICA FIRST ECONOMIC NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY, as he has proven capable, this will have an ENORMOUS IMPACT…and not just economic. It will remove ANY DOUBTS about the capability of a SANE LEADER and allow people AROUND THE WORLD TO REALIZE JUST HOW CORRUPT AND INEFFECTIVE THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP REALLY IS.
parallel to that, yes, President Trump should make a top priority to exercise his executive power to delimit specific federal agencies AND WORK WITH CONGRESS TO LITERALLY GUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE.
But WE THE PEOPLE can do MORE RIGHT NOW.
the 702 program and usa freedom act. THIS IS THE YEAR TO REPEAL AND ABOLISH/REFORM these authorities that gives unchecked power to the secret police spy state. We CANNOT ALLOW CONGRESS TO IGNORE WHAT MUST BE DONE BEFORE 31 DEC 2023. practically speaking, this is less than 3o business days to get this done.
please tell everyone you know to contact congress and get their attention and make this the top priority…if we want security and privacy, and no more secret police spy state that is allowed to interfere and manufacture criminal allegations against OUR PRESIDENT (and many others), then this has to be our top priority.
That is something WE CAN DO THIS YEAR> NOW.
this clears the path for President Trump in ways that you cannot begin to imagine.
THIS IS US…WE THE PEOPLE DOING THAT.
make it happen. Make what ought to be
WHAT IS
God Bless America
MUST BE DONE BEFORE 31 DEC 2023.
All respect, on repealing, not renewing or even major modifications to “the Patriot act” I do not believe those abusing it will stop, just because CONgress (assuming the I/C doesn’t blackmail them) says they can’t do it any more.
“If this goes South, we’ll wind down Blackbriar, tie it around Landrys neck, and then start it up again.”
IF we can’t get rid of it, then maybe we should USE it; no doubt in order to coordinate Muh Russia, Covid plandemic and 2020 Steal, they must have all sorts of incrimidating evidence in their own words, in emails, phone calls, etc.
Start rolling out the FISA warrants, with 3 hop rule!
it matters. I read your comments carefully and I’ve been thinking about this issue myself. What if. If they can abuse the existing authoritiies and those authorities are removed legally from them, then it’s likely they will simply ignore the prohibition or find some loophole to continue.
so here is the deal on that. And we CAN APPLY this same notion about many other areas/spaces where the corruptors operate:
this is what is required. If congress gets this right, the secret police spy state will have to make a decision and a risk to break the law …this changes things…a LOT. If congress does not get this right, then the secret police spy state returns to business and usual and will continue to install kings in america and persecute it’s political opponents. congress has a dog in this fight because of that relevancy to their own power.
Yes political opposition “research” will continue….yes, the wrap up smear and limited hangouts will also continue. those are not against the law. What would violate the law is to manufacture allegations of criminal acts and then use the federal agencies powers to give this the illusion of legitimacy. that must end.
this is the path forward
God Bless America
The AP says Trump made a false claim about the clerk on social media, but does not say what it was. Curious. They also regularly claim accusations of election fraud are false. No proof, no journalistic investigations, just propaganda.
AP is state propaganda…the secret police spy state…
AP…. American Propaganda.
If any moonbat we talk to these days even whispers the words APee (or RotoReuters or New York Slimes), the first thing to talk about is their being embedded with Hamas for the atrocities.
He probably said she paid Russian hookers to pee on a hotel bed that he slept in. That’s what I think of when I hear the words, “false claim.”
I noticed that also! When President Trump is later proven right AP will not make a correction or the correction will be buried! It’s why the AP is part of the Fake News Network of our unfree press!
The AP always states false claims
The AP works out of the C-Eye-A. Told what words to use at 4A.M. talking points and becomes mockingbird media.
The AP is not one to talk when they made all those false claims about Trump/Russia collusion, which included pushing that leftist agenda all through the Mueller investigation.
Wonder if it was that she is Schumer’s gf?
Schumer has even taken on the appearance of a serpent.
Shumer is demented. Bing Videos Shumer talking to empty chair
“The truth is what we tell you it is.”
The real truth is what they don’t tell us! And it’s purposeful! There needs to be a reckoning!
They lied.
AP also had a photographer embedded with Hamas on the 7th. So, yeah, the AP.
I don’t understand how this “trial” can move forward.
I learned about “standing” when various courts threw out 2020 election challenges.
How does New York have any standing in this case. President Trump took out loans and paid them off. The state has no standing. Further, any lender has its’ own appraisers.
This whole thing is BS.
standing has many flavors.
jurisdiction…this is a state court, where the alleged “crimes” occurred. (consider WHY the other case involving classmat in maralago is located in florida and NOT in DC as an example…but with a twist…that is a federal criminal case…this is a state “criminal” case. which really should be a civil case.
beyond that defense and prosecution may also request that a trial be moved to another location….in order to satisfy a more fair trial. So jurisdiction and standing ARE NOT THE ONLY FACTORS that determine what court and judge may rule.
in this case, which is very unique for lots of reasons, is not a jury case…and it’s a state case…and where the alleged “crimes” were committted.
but in fundamental terms, this entire case is made of fiction. As sundance has pointed out, and you have also noted, there is no victim. No banks have sued President Trump. That state has not sued President Trump for illegal tax avoidance. No party has been injured.
it is a text book example of a “process crime”….and should be reduced to a simple fine not even registering as a misdemeanor.
this case will fail …but a conviction is expected…it will fail on appeal.
God Bless America
What is the “process crime”?? So far I haven’t seen any crime here except malignant persecution.
“process crime” is a fictional legal crime. It’s a contrived legal argument.
for example: when LTGEN flynn was interviewed, and told he would not need legal rep, two of the FBI agents OFFICIALLY reported that he had not been deceptive. In fact, the paperwork, which was buried for years and only later revealed after his case was dismissed (BY THE DOJ), showed that he was remarkably open and candid in his responses. LTGEN Flynn had nothing to hide, so he was behaving as a normal human being would. However, FBI leadership and DOJ leadership decided (BASED ON MIKE DENSE REPORTS TO THEM…How I hate that man), that LTGEN Flynn had not been forthcoming. Of course, this was not true, but it this lie was postured because the corruptors could not withstand the power of someone like LTGEN Flynn who would have likely caused night terrors for the criminal element within the DOJ, FBI, State Department, and Military IC. He KNEW what was going on. He was not simply chosen because he was a legit war hero. He had POWER…information and trusted people in place who would work with him to reform the corruption he witnessed himself. So the DOJ invented a criminal charge of lying to an fbi agent. It’s the standard way to create a crime when there is no underlying crime to support it. Sidney Powell does an excellent job describing how the FBI does this and has done it many time to persecute people it decides must be destroyed. So it’s important to note that the FBI never charged and never even asserted that LTGEN had actually broken any federal. understand what this really means. If he lies to the FBI, why would they NOT charge him for some underlying crime? What was the predicate for the interview? Clearly, it was to entrap him and then to report that he was lying. But again, this doesn’t make any sense, because FBI/DOJ never charged him for any underlying crime! So it’s becomes a “process crime”
now lets compare that to this case. President Trump has been charged/alleged to have inflated his net worth of his company in order to establish better loan terms. Lets follow that for a moment and respect some FACTS:
not one single bank has sued President Trump or his company because of better terms negotiated.
all banks were paid in full and all debt serviced…no one got harmed.
no competitor was harmed and no competitor is seeking any damages..no one got harmed.
he paid all his taxes and used standard tax avoidance practices, well known and fully legal. The state tax is not pursuing him for any unpaid taxes. no one got harmed.
in order for the crime to be legit, there must be some other underlying crime…and as with LTGEN Flynn, there is none.
it IS therefore a process crime.
or the better term, BULL SHIT.
everyone knows. everyone.
God Bless America
Regitiger you are awesome! Right on analysis! Retribution better be a- coming when President Trump gets in.
There are folks on this forum that are a lot smarter than I. That is why I lurk here.
Fine for what?!
And what is the crime of process – please tell!
He’s not charged eith a crime.
The statute is a CIVIL, (actually ADMINISTRATIVE law) not criminal case.
I have represented pro se in Criminal cases, including felonies and federal offences, civil cases and administrative law cases.
I would rather be charged with a criminal felony, that have to fight an administrative law case.
Anyway, the statute is a consumer protection statute, that basically says IF a business has committed multiple sustained frauds against the public, that as a matter seperate from any criminal prosecutions the State can engage in this ADMINISTRATIVE law proceeding, to sieze company assets or fine the company.
This is actually somewhat like “civil forfeiture” and if you are unfamiliar you should do a search.
They can confiscate your cash without needing to show it was either criminal proceeds, or about to be used for criminal purpose i.e. to buy drugs.
Just the fact that you have say $1000 cash, the police can sieze it. NO NEED for them to prove any CRIME.
Administrative law SUCKS; in some cases, no right to council, no 5thA, no miranda, etc.
Argue with the IRS, apply for SS Disability, business told they are in violation of some regulation, dispute with any agency of the government really, is Administrative law.
Thank you.
In other words, Administrative Law = Corruptocratic “Law.”
“Standing” and “intent” both appear to me to be pretty much Lawfare “legal” fictions.
Of course I’m not a lawyer, despite having wanted riefly to be one at 8 years old watching Perry Mason.
Finally a glimmer of hope a ray of sunshine, in this convoluted, demeaning sociopathic court case.
Regards
Climate Heretic
The court clerk is the ventriloquist and Engoron the dummy.
I wouldn’t put it past them to be sending the clerk the things to tell the judge. Maybe texts. It would need to be someone in the room.
ROFLOL!!! Never thought of that, but it sure looks true!
because there is no jury, there is nobody for DJT to ‘taint’ with his ripostes, therefore there’s no basis (other than thin skin) for a gag order
That is a very astute point!
Sundance needs to be more careful about using AP story quotes.
Trump was talking about Michael Cohen, bug the judge pretended he thought Trump was talking about his clerk when Trump said he is a proven liar.
Doesn’t matter.
The appeals court has ruled that Trump can talk about the clerk as well.
Perhaps it is GMBurns who needs to be more careful… Is it possible that Sundance is quoting the AP story to shine light on their fake news? He often quotes the mainstream news with his commentary, and to allow us treepers to add our commentary.
Vote afain all incompetent incumbents in your primaries. If they still win don’t vote for them in general. Let them all lose. PDJT can simply write executive orders for four years. I have no problem with that
Executive orders can be overturned by next admin – we need some solid legislative law that favours America.
THAT will be difficult.
True, but a boatload of them will certainly be needed in PDJT’s administration, in order for good results to show immediately and clearly to the public.
Also, this time, if some judge in some local jurisdiction tries to stop any, PDJT should simply ignore them and go ahead. If I recall correctly, other Presidents have done so…
Think of it as staunching the bleeding before there’s time to operate.
They’re gonna need to find MOAR kangaroos for these courts & judges …
this is the part that grabs your attention…to understand the how demented the court judge truly is:
“Friedman said that while it’s true that judges often issue gag orders, they’re mostly used in criminal cases where there’s a fear that comments about the case could influence the jury. Trump’s civil trial doesn’t have a jury.
Trump lawyer Christopher Kise said after Friedman ruled that the appellate judge “made the right decision and allowed President Trump to take full advantage of his constitutional First Amendment rights to talk about bias in his own trial, what he’s seeing and witnessing in his own trial — which, frankly, everyone needs to see.”
Another Trump attorney, Alina Habba, indicated she has no plans to advise the former president to stay quiet about the clerk”
I had to read it twice. It was from AP, so of course, my first reaction was that the editor was drunk and this went out without the typical spin…
This is Trump’s third win in court, no losses, many more wins to come, and yes I’m counting.
Praise the Lord for this good news for President Trump.
Thank you Sundance.
Amen!
We as citizens need to keep pulling back the curtins and letting the sunshine in. Not on these issues, but also letting the sunshine in on our less informed citizens.
Maybe, just maybe, we can break the track of history and pull ourselves out of this FUBAR’d mess.
This is the greatest country ever in history, let us not fail.
What about the $15K in fines? Don’t they go away?
I’m not a lawyer, but I believe this just stays Engeron’s gag order while the appeal is being heard. Once the order is overturned, as it likely will be, I would expect the fines will be refunded.
Why is this article stating that Trump lied about the clerk? Is this by another DNC-owned journalist? I wouldn’t quote him here.
It’s the Judge saying that Trump wasn’t telling the truth. Engoron is crazy as a loon.
“Earlier in the day, Mr Trump had told reporters that Mr Engoron was a “very partisan judge, with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is”. His comments followed a previous social media attack against the judge’s clerk earlier this month, which had led to the gag order and a fine….In a dramatic moment shortly after 14.00 EST, the judge forced Mr Trump to briefly take the stand to settle the matter. When questioned on the stand, Mr Trump told the judge he was referring to “you and Cohen”, not the judge and his clerk. Judge Engoron said his explanation was “not credible,” and fined him $10,000.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67222900
AP- American Propaganda written story by Michael R. Sistak and Jennifer Peltz out of New York. Says it all.
The AP said he lied,…
I think the AP is basing their interpretation on the sacrosanct perceived authority of the judge.
“Unlike an arguing attorney, who can take different sides, a judge would never say anything that would not speak truth and ooze verisimilitude”,…..pure sarcasm, and pure BS!
AP et al, are ultimately the mouth pieces of Evil.
Lawfare is taking losses recently. Michigan shot down the fake lawsuit to keep Trump off the ballot. That tactic now seems a dry hole everywhere.
The NY case is rocky soil, no joy there, it seems.
The fed cases stand alone now, I think. And NOBODY but Trump wants to endure robust discovery there. Lawfare may have to fold their tent.
We may be at the beginning of the end. I sense the Uniparty is slightly tilting to that realization, and are in the anger stage of grief. Trump can roll them during the coming depression stage. Acceptance will come in the Spring, when nomination comes.
i love your enthusiasm but i’m afraid i don’t share your confidence.
respects all the same.
And as Miller once said in one of his great novels – what did he ? … …that insanity is all that is necessary when Judge Engoron is here …or there … or somewhere, on some bench or another before some merciful Higher Power, or at least some higher Judge, calls a lid on the lips of that deranged sucker. And you sit there just as bewildered as I am at how such a corrupt mendacious low IQ buffoon could even get appointed 3rd assistant toilet cleaner in the lowest third world country in any planet with even a smidgen of integrity.
And through all this the usual DNC and MSM and RINO suspects have attained, and have created for themselves holy sanctification, and it is only their cognitive dissonance that is keeping them alive in their mindless absurdity.
The DS is planning now to stop the next election if Trump looks like the probable winner. DC will stop at nothing to prevent Trump from winning.
That is one of the things that concerns me.
I submit such a move will have the same effect as either an obvious steal, or a Trump win.
That is there are 3 possible outcomes, and MAGA wins, no matter which outcome.
THEY created the illusion of choice, for many years with their Uniparty (D) or Uniparty (R) illusion if choice where either way, Uniparty wins.
Now we are looking at they are unable to cheat ENOUGH to overcome PDJT’s monster vote, he’s declared the winner.
They cheat, and it is SO obvious and over the top that it triggers a reaction of massive withdrawal of consent, and MAGA wins.
Or, realising the above are the only other options, they attempt to “postpone” the elections, which everyone sees is a transparent concession that Trump will win, and they withdraw their consent en mass, and MAGA wins.
Velvet Revolution would indeed be the least bad outcome…
Keep in mind the powerful yet anassailable symbol of ‘shaking keys’ in that revolution. Everybody has”em, no rule against ’em, easy to explain to others.
Thanks, Sundance, for the update!! That’s good news heading into the weekend. 🙏😇🏆
A Trump Rally on Saturday is even more good news!
I am hoping trumps lawyers come dressed as kangaroos.
Hello there, Sundance 😎
Please no more drivel from putrid Ass Press. It’s unbearable.
I feel better when I check this site and Sundance posts!
just finished watching Atty Robert Gouveia go over the appeals that was filed today against this judge, interestingly enough, it was filed to this judge. It goes into great extent the law clerks activities too. 54 minute video:
Trump’s attorneys filed a very specific (and quite damning) appeal concerning both this judge and his most-curious “girl Friday,” who has for a long time acted as his “co-judge,” literally sharing the bench with him and passing notes. (They actually moved(!) the public cameras to make it harder to see her doing it. The judge claimed ignorance.)
Their filing quite speaks for itself.
This judge and his “lackey” are making an embarrassment of New York law. Both of them need to be immediately put out to pasture. For good.
The appellate judge clearly made the correct ruling, as crazy Judge Engoran was WAY over his skis on his gag order ruling…but I have to say, I am WAY more excited to see a post, any post, with Sundance’s by-line on it! (Nothing against AdRem, Menagerie, and the crew, who have been doing stellar work keeping the Treehouse up and running!)
It wasn’t a false statement.
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I love how the AP claimed without evidence that Trump made a “false” statement in public. As if his or my free speech rights only exist if an AP reporter or a lunatic judge says it is “true”.
President Trump and his lawyers need to get his $15,000 in fine money *BACK*!
Publicly humiliating Engoron in the process.
If the gag order is wrong?
SO ARE THE FINES!!!
This is one case where it really is not about the money, but the principal of the thing.
If the gag order is wrong……
SO.ARE.THE.FINES.
Imagine the crow the media will have to choke down if Trump and his lawyers make that happen.
I would spend the “recovered” 15,000 printing one page fliers and posting them EVERYWHERE.
come to NYC and see the kangaroo court..it’s a zoo.
Noy confident the fines have actually been PAID, yet.
I should think the fines would be paid at the end of the trial?
I’m not aware that trump’s statements about the clerk were “false”. The clerk was playing an unusual role in the courtroom, and Trump’s lawyers also pointed it out. The judge then berated them and essentially said “It’s my courtroom and I can do anything I goddam well please.”.
Good old AP…
The New York case is so over the top even the appellate court must be
embarrassed by this nonsense..with this judge..He makes them look
bad..in NY..
Because they are BAD!
Refund the $15,000
Our complete judicial system has been so corrupt for many decades and most (X shysters) judges should be completely removed and disbarred.
Some perhaps are remembering Robespierre and seek to avoid a ride in the tumbrel.
When will they refund the $15,000
Around the bowl and down the hole, GO Engoron, GO!
Can’t keep a
goodgreat man down!!!💥Senator Kennedy was questioning a Biden (native American) nominee for an Oklahoma court. She couldn’t answer what was the difference between an injunction and a stay.
That level of ignorance in a future judge who will have to issue those instruments is horrifying. But we are watching these evil, biased, mentally unstable prosecutors, DA’s, and judges in every case involving President Trump. The litany of names – Fani Willis, Letitia James, Engoron, Smith, Chutkin, Bragg – will live in infamy.
Not to say I’m not glad at every little win along the way.
Unfortunately, from what I understand, not too many good (honest) law schools out there either!
The Lawfare Crew is bumping into hard limits, which is good to see. Even better, the lockstep media is reporting them too.
Live by the media construct. Die by the media construct.
good to see Sundance is back at it