News breaking from The Daily Mail reflects that President Donald Trump has filed a civil action against Orbis Business Intelligence and its founder, Christopher Steele. You will likely remember that Chris Steele wrote the infamous “Steele Dossier” that became the underpinning of the Carter Page FISA application, replacing the legally required Woods file.
Interestingly, Trump appears to be using the British court system, and laws around libel actions that are much more beneficial to the plaintiff in the U.K. There is an initial 2-day court hearing scheduled for October 16th.
(Via Daily Mail) Donald Trump is suing a former MI6 officer and the intelligence consultancy he founded, High Court records show.
The former US president is bringing a data protection claim against Orbis Business Intelligence and its founder Christopher Steele, who previously ran the Secret Intelligence Service’s Russia desk.
According to a court order published on Thursday, a two-day hearing in Mr Trump’s legal action is set to start on October 16, which is thought to be the first hearing in the claim. (more)
The layers of possibility within this lawsuit are actually much more remarkable than first review might consider.
Remember, as discovered during the Durham probe, GCHQ refused to assist the CIA and FBI in their construct of the fabricated theory about Trump-Russia. Additionally, Steele has attempted to distance himself from the ‘dossier’ he created, implying his role was simply to affirm or verify information fed to him from Fusion GPS via Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr.
Plausibly, Steele could claim he simply provided information, material that was false, to Fusion GPS, not knowing what would come of it. However, in order to take that position, he would need to swear and attest to that set of facts. That opens questions about conversations between Steele and Glenn Simpson/Nellie Ohr about his material representations – as well as conversations between Steele and the DOJ/FBI about the same. Names and specifics would have to be outlined in order to escape the libel.
Deposing Chris Steele would be a goldmine of information about how the construct of the narrative was put together. Who was involved from within the U.S. government and Fusion GPS would be the obvious aspect. Steele was represented by Adam Waldman, who was also used as an intermediary between Steele and other investigative authorities in the USA. Waldman and former SSCI Vice Chair staffer, Dan Jones, were working together. Piercing those conversations is yet another layer to peel.
In short, in order for Chris Steele to use the defense against libel, he would have to outline who he was delivering information to, and what was the purpose of the delivery. Steele would also need to walk through each of the points made in his email construction and show origination, supportive material, efforts taken to prove or disprove and subsequent findings. [Think of the Michael Cohen in Prague false claim as only one small example]
There’s a reason why Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller never went near Chris Steele during their construct of the Mueller report. They well understood that Lawfare required plausible deniability. This, despite the fact that on June 29, 2017, Mueller and Weissmann used the dossier for the final FISA renewal – a point missed by all except for the deepest weed walkers.
POINT missed by EVERYONE: How could Mueller/Weissmann use the Steele dossier for a FISA renewal, and then say Chris Steele was, “outside their purview“?
I think there would be a lot of pro-bono research aides who would love to work on this lawsuit. Just sayin’…
I’d add a whole lot more names to that lawsuit.
a trial for treason would be better justice – after January 20, 2017, it became an unvarnished attack on the government people of the United States, very like aided at some level by our stealthy enemy, the CCP and its minions.
The CCP money and intrigues permeate our government from the 1990s.
From the Nixon years.
It would appear best to start here. Get the list of particulars of whom/what/where/when on record as sworn evidence. Then, upon closing of this skirmish, open the new front with the now sworn evidence. Longer reverse lawfare.
Steele may end up as the next Clinton casualty.
It would be astonishing if Trump did not use Sundance on this effort. Not just the facts collected, but the subtle implications and connections Sundance sees.
Going back through CTH archives is a wealth of facts. Something I may start on – not saying I’m a good researcher, but Sundance is the best and the facts have already been laid out.
take trump to court – he takes your traitors to court to expose all the dem lies
there will not be a dem party 2025
Yes there will. They’re called “Republicans”
There will be “Republicans” like Liz Cheney ,
who was ousted from House GOP leadership
over her criticism of former President Donald Trump
and lost a primary battle .
Which is why Trump must get to the SCOTUS, because EVERYTHING gathered by the DS & DOJ since he & Melania came down the escalator in 2015 (even before the 1st FISA Warrant they were illegally spying on him & his associates) is “fruit of the poisonous tree” evidence and inadmissible in court, as well as the worst case of “unclean hands” in legal history.
Steele should provide some more evidence, however this CTH web site has all the evidence Trump needs for SCOTUS.
Would love to know if his attorneys have included this argument in their responses and counter claims?
Sundance, do we know?
The SCOTUS are useless. The nation is being torn apart while they declare ‘no standing’ to the States.
Most Judges and Magistrates in the USA today are lefties.
The constitutional Judges are only a little lefty.
The Deep State has the Jeffrey Epstein files and video-tapes. So John Roberts will do whatever they tell him to do.
I have been wondering when he would start suing the KKKabal.
My only thought was that they loaded him up on lawsuits and they might say he can’t complain he doesn’t have time for the fake lawsuits when he is suing people himself.
But these people should be sued, for racketeering, interference with elections and so on.
I hope Trump has a plan to counter-act the massive voter fraud that we all know is going to happen.
I understand your point…..
BUT
its not up to President Trump
its up to us
we must all hold the line against tyranny!
however, it is difficult to ascertain what
exactly to do when it seems most of the
world is corrupt and won’t do a damn
thing to rid us of election fraud
and the fraudulent justice system we
now have in this country and others
TacticalCivics.com
This is definitely a good strategy. Put ’em in a box.
There is no end to the lawsuits PDJT should or could file. Reflecting back on the 24×7 defamation, nearly every country and media across the civilized world falls somewhere on the radar screen.
At the same time, I am unaware of any of the lawsuits, of this sort, he has filed that have been won (excluding Stormy), let alone heard. It seems the US Judicial System, now an oxymoron, is stacked against him just like the rest of the government and media.
Sue PDJT? Win your case. PDJT sues you? Case dismissed.
In a real world America (pre-Obama transformation) he would have won every case for and against him. As it stands today, the government and their minions most certainly do intend to break him in every way they possibly can.
In spite of it all, he’s an amazing man and still swinging for the fences.
This is a brilliant chess move. Trump moving on offense. Starting all the way back to their original sin, Russia gate. Because they’re not smart, they will eventually paint themselves in a corner because everything just doesn’t go one way…
They’re smart…they are arrogant, though. They believed their own bias and thought they could outlast the MAGA supporters. Trump has been underestimated as a leader. Most politicians are shallow and easily manipulated. The swamp and the MSM made a huuuge mistake thinking Trump was all about money and power. Because that’s what THEY are all about!
this can’t happen fast enough for me.
Need to add NSA’s boss – DOD – big time!
Fun fact – they got their fingers on OUR elections now. “As CNMF’s missions and responsibilities expanded, security of the U.S. midterm elections in 2018 became a top priority…”
https://www.cybercom.mil/About/Components/CNMF/CNMF-History/
Yeah, great ‘eh? Austin and Milley ‘securing’ our election.
Wheeee …the Beginning is near.
So many scumbags so little time.
Woo-Hoo! VSG-PDJT strikes!
By the way, Chris Steele did not suicide himself. I hope he has great security guards!
And, I should add that I know of one pro-bono research aide who already has facts at his disposal!
“I think there would be a lot of pro-bono research aides who would love to work on this lawsuit. Just sayin’… ”
Well Sundance warned us things would heat up soon.
“… Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller never went near Chris Steele during … the Mueller report … Lawfare required plausible deniability. This, despite the fact that on June 29, 2017, Mueller and Weissmann used the dossier for the final FISA renewal – a point missed by all … How could Mueller/Weissmann use the Steele dossier for a FISA renewal, and then say Chris Steele was, “outside their purview“?
Hopefully, the UK won’t be as dismissive as the US.
BRAVO!
Might be wiser and less damaging for the DS to just admit guilt without trial and buy out the lawsuit.
Waldman shows up in the middle of a lot of things.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-adam-waldman-lobbyist-vladimir-putin-testifying-johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-1708131
Courthouse News Service reported in October 2020 that Waldman was thrown off the case by Judge Bruce White, amid allegations that he had allegedly leaked confidential information covered under a protective order to the press.
According to Insider, Waldman filed paperwork with the U.S. Department of Justice in May 2009, indicating that he would be working with Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, providing “legal advice on issues involving his U.S. visa as well as commercial transactions.”
Deripaska’s U.S. visa was revoked in 2006 amid concerns about his links to organized crime. In October 2010, Waldman then indicated in another filing that he would be working with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, “gathering information and providing advice and analysis as it relates to the U.S. policy towards the visa status of Oleg Deripaska.”
The Guardian reported in 2018 that according to visitor logs, Waldman visited Julian Assange nine times at the Ecuadorian embassy in London in 2017.
At the time, it was not made clear why Waldman had repeatedly visited Assange or whether the meetings had any connection to his Russian ties. Waldman had not registered himself as a lobbyist for Assange.
…”Interestingly, Trump appears to be using the British court system, and laws around libel actions that are much more beneficial to the plaintiff in the U.K….”
Possibly, or maybe he thinks our courts are so corrupted against him that he can only get a fair shake in the U.K.; or, to get the evidence presented to a court that won’t dismiss it out right and refuse to hear it because he “doesn’t have standing”.
It’s a good strategy regardless.
Bypassing the American commie courts is a great idea.
We shall see if MI6 protects Steele.
Afterall, they trained the CIA, & the German and Russian police systems.
The Tavistock Institue on Human Development, MI6. The father of Psy-Ops around the world.
It should be easier to get access to Steele and his information in the UK where he lives than in absentia in the USA.
But the U.K. is part of 5 Eyes? It’s a great idea if they will not throw it out.
Sounds like a plan and remember Devin Nunes was also ‘inside’ the know of what went on. Between his knowledge, what President Trump has learned, and a lot of ‘shadow’ play, its a winner.
If I recall correctly …. AG Bag Pipes Billie Barr and spinning Fox News head Acting-AG Matthew Whittaker as well as agents acting on their behalf actually went to the UK and Italy to “investigate” contacts and sources related to the Steele Dossier.
We discussed those “visits” here on CTH, if I recall correctly.
Just to name a few key deep state swamp employees who could be forced to surface.
Christopher Steele Is Getting Sued .
It’s nice to wake up to some good news.
Thank you, Sundance.
Sundance says: “I think there would be a lot of pro-bono research aides who would love to work on this lawsuit. Just sayin’… “
Sir, did you just volunteer?
More of this please!!
Guerilla Lawfare the crap outta these clowns.
The Freedom and Liberty lawyers that are supposedly on our side need to let their balls drop, and get to work.
Great maker! Lil’ Nellie is much too interesting in my book.
https://www.conservapedia.com/Nellie_Ohr
Wouldn’t it be a big joke if Nellie is SVR? Obama’s and Brennan’s CIA best hire ever. Gave Vlad in a seat at the table for a coup against Trump.
Brilliant….Trump is twenty times smarter than Biden (who- let’s face it – was a dope and a liar even before he was senile). I have been waiting for Hillary to get her comeuppance for this outright lie , smearing of her opponent-, trying to steal an election and just for being the devious self involved person she is. Her footnote in the History books will be Benghazi and the Steele Dossier. Every time she pops out of the hole she is living in, I wonder why she doesn’t understand that – no one wants her- not even BIll……
An additional note will also be her role, which got her fired, in denying President Nixon his civil rights during Watergate (which wasn’t what too many believe due to highly slanted reporting).
Well this would be very entertaining……
Nice to see some offensive counter moves while taking on the brunt of the USSA.
Team Trump take him up on it!!!!!
Oh this makes me happy
lets see if he lives to make it to the 16th hearing. i can see him being epsteined.
This is a prelude to a 2nd RECUSAL MOTION against the democrat activist Thug in black robe “judge” Tanya Chutkan. It should have been done long ago.
GOD BLESS and PROTECT President Donald J. Trump!
I trust that the defendant has had no recent self-delete ideation? 🤔
There’s a whole can of whoopass ready to be opened across the pond.
Would the UK government interfere in the case, I wonder. We’ve seen them break their own laws to support the globalist agenda, and I can’t imagine this would be a bridge too far.