Everything about the Maui fire is sketchy. It was sketchy when it happened. It is sketchy in the aftermath, and it remains sketchy in the recovery stage. The FBI, EPA and FEMA have essentially locked down the island, and there are reports of people being evicted who did not perish and did not lose their homes.
I’m not sure if the issues are related to systemically gross incompetence, nefarious constructs, a blue state with poor systems and weak leaders, or a combination of all the above. However, what is abundantly clear is that the people of Maui are victims of more than just a massive wildfire.
Hawaii Gov. Josh Green appears on “Face the Nation” to tell Margareet Brennan that the failure of the now-resigned Maui Emergency Management Agency Administrator was “utterly unsatisfactory, to the world.” “Of course, as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off,” Green said. The governor also stated there are more than 1,000 people still missing and many of them are children. He blames global warming. WATCH:
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Hawaii’s Governor Joshua Green in Honolulu. Good morning. Thank you for getting up so early, and I’m so sorry for what is going on in your state.
GOV. JOSH GREEN: Thank you, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, can you tell us how many are still unaccounted for, and how long will it take to identify remains?
GOV. GREEN: More than 1000 are unaccounted for, about 1050. It will take several weeks, still, some of the challenges are going to be extraordinary. As you reported, 85% of the- of the land of the impact zone has been covered now by what amounts to an army of search and rescue teams and 41 dogs. So 85% of the land has been covered. Now we go into the larger buildings, which require peeling back some of the floors and structures. That last 15% could take weeks. We do have extreme concerns that because of the temperature of the fire, the remains of those who have died, in some cases, may be impossible to recover meaningfully. So, there are going to be people that are lost forever. And right now, we’re working obviously with the FBI and everyone on the ground to make sure that we do what we can to assess who’s missing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is hard to hear, Governor. I know a local Maui official said a large number of the dead may have actually been children who were left home that day because schools were closed, many of them alone or with their grandparents. Is that the case?
GOV. GREEN: That is possible. And that’s-that’s what we’re sharing here internally, that it’s possible that there will be many children. This is the largest catastrophe and disaster that’s ever-hit Maui, probably that’s ever-hit Hawaii outside of wartime events. So, we just thank everyone in the world for reaching out and supporting us through all of the, you know, the ways that they can. Right now, we are trying to make sure everyone is sheltered, and we begin to get all the federal resources we can to make life in some way livable for the survivors. That’s where we are at the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When will the surviving children of West Maui be able to return to school? What do they need?
GOV. GREEN: In some cases, they’re returning later this week. Children can go to any school that’s in the region or where they are. We have six hotels that are basically full of families and their children that have survived. We also are doing distance learning. A lot of that was implemented during the COVID pandemic. There are just so many things to share. King Kamehameha Elementary School in Lahaina is burned to the ground. I mean, it’s totally gone. It used to host 650 children, some of those children have passed. Others will, of course, go to neighboring schools. You have to remember this is a very rural part of Hawaii. And that’s one of the challenges. So, schools are far apart. We’ve authorized other means of transportation, you know, vans and things to help families get farther distances to school.
MARGARET BRENNAN: As-as we’ve been discussing, there are now a lot of questions about all of the policies and procedures. You know, the National Weather Service had issued a Fire Watch for your state August 6, a few days before the fire hit. With the siren system, you said to CNN on Monday and again on Tuesday that you believe some of the sirens were broken. When did you learn they weren’t fully functional?
GOV. GREEN: We assess every siren across the state on the first of the month. And then we ask people to update them and fix them to their abilities. You know, I, of course, I as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off. The challenge that you’ve heard, and it’s not to excuse or explain anything. The challenge has been that historically, those sirens are used for tsunamis. That’s when I came to Hawaii 23 years ago was told when I was living down near the shore. So, it’s usually tsunamis and hurricanes. For perspective, we’ve had six fire emergencies this August, we had six fire emergencies between 1953 and 2003. That’s how- how fast things are changing. I know that there is debate out there whether we should be talking about climate change or not. Well, let’s be real world, climate change is here we are in the midst of it with a hotter planet, and fiercer storms. And you asked the question, I’m coming back to it right now. Do I wish those sirens went off? Of course, I do. And I think that the answer that the- the emergency administrator for Maui, who has resigned, said was, of course, utterly unsatisfactory to the world. But it is the case that- that we’ve historically not used those kinds of warnings or fires.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I understand, and I know that you are conducting a review, but given that your state is experiencing a drought, and you’re in hurricane season, can you say whether other Hawaiian towns are as vulnerable as Lahaina was?
GOV. GREEN: We worry about a lot of our state, Waikoloa on the Big Island, which was experiencing a fire at the same time and required evacuations. We’re worried about them. We worry about all of our state. Some of the state, which is denser and more urban, like Waikiki, has a lot more water and a lot more firefighters, a lot more support. Oahu has three quarters of the population of the state. But we’ve had, although it’s not been reported in the press, we’ve had multiple small fires, some on Oahu, some on Big Island, of course, more on Maui, even in the days since the fire. And the firefighters, I want to thank them. They’ve been heroic in this period of time. They’ve just been constantly working, and everyone has stepped up. But yes, we’re worried, and we have done all that we can at the moment to continue to warn people that this is a season of fire and everyone, of course, doesn’t need more reminding because of what happened in Lahaina.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There has been scrutiny of the largest utility, Hawaiian Electric, because there were images, I know you know this, of power lines, possibly starting fires. Last year, that company had proposed an upgrade of the grid with Lahaina as a priority area and suggested a rate hike to do that. Do you know why that didn’t happen and if that contributed?
GOV. GREEN: I don’t know personally whether or not the- the power lines were the- the primary reason the fire occurred. That’s why I asked for a comprehensive review, I think two days into this, which is very atypical. Normally, these kinds of investigations come months or-or more later. But we have to ask that question, we have to ask the question on every level of how any one city, county, state could have done better and the private sector. This is- this is the world that we live in now. In this case, and I’ve seen footage of it from some of the survivors, I’ve seen footage of how it looked during the fire and how things were exploding and what the fierce winds looked like. They were 80 miles per hour gusting and the fire, I’m now told, was as high as 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. It just destroyed everything. It’s not to excuse anything else from any company. It’s just to explain what the world should prepare for, and I humbly asked all of the cities and states to spend that money now to prevent disasters like we are seeing here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So just to be clear, when you’re talking about global warming, are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?
GOV. GREEN: Yes, it did. There’s always going to be incredible things that people do to save lives, from the firefighters, from citizens. And there’s always going to be decisions that are made that I’m sure aren’t perfect in the moment. And- but when you have fire that move more than a mile a minute, and what happened I’m told by some of the survivors, they were at the initial fire. It was put out sometime late in the afternoon in Lahaina, and then the firefighters had to go to three other fires that had started because of the conditions. When they left the fire started up again. And then when the storm winds from Dora, which were that strong, swept it out, it just destroyed everything. So, there’s no excuses to ever be made. But there are finite- there are finite resources sometimes in the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, we’re watching, the country’s watching, good luck and thank you for your time.
GOV. GREEN: Thank you for your love and support. We appreciate it.
Ever notice that when a natural disaster occurs in a blue state the first thing the “leaders” do is play the blame game.
In red states the first thing the leaders do is focus on getting their constituents the goods and services they need to recover from the natural disaster.
I sincerely hope that at some point we learn the unvarnished truth about this fire. I doubt we will because the truth will once again point to a failed liberal policy as the catalyst.
Given the Left’s incompetence in general, playing the blame game comes naturally to these people.
In the game of politics; which naturally both sides play.
Never let a crisis go to waste is a tenant of leftist thinking. One of the more egregious aspects of that team.
Honestly, when a splinter of sunlight is allowed to pass between the gauntlet the Left and Right have built in this country, it’s something to commiserate.
The problem isn’t climate change. It is States where citizens continue to elect leftists. Leftists fund green energy and pass legislation that environmentalists demand.California is a great example. Environmentalists were successful in making it difficult, if not impossible, to trim trees. Then in storms the branches came into contact with power lines and fires started. Then the State took away the immunity for electric companies and PG&E was sued into bankruptcy. Now electric companies shut off electricity for hours and sometimes days in a windstorm to avoid bankruptcy. Countless stupid policies passed by morons flow unfettered like the feces down the streets of San Francisco. We get what we vote for.
People don’t elect leftists in general. Those who run the election machines make the selections.
Nothing can improve until the election machines are eliminated.
You can’t absolve people that much. Have you been to cities lately? They are cesspools. Or universities. I absolutely believe these people vote for leftists. And the normal don’t usually get out for local elections.
Chase, I think you are right, but also what happens in the cities is a loud minority intimidates everyone who disagrees with them into thinking they’re the only one. It’s hard to say how much of the attitude in cities is a cause, and how much is a result, of the (s)elections. But I live in a big city metro area, and I am certain that if we had an honest election, the only blue part is the very most urban part of the city.
What’s happening to cities is on purpose, controlled demolition. A small scale version of what’s been done to the nation over the last 60 years. Purposeful, willfull destruction, as a matter of national policy.
Yes you can absolve people that much. The people who count some votes and not other votes control who is in office.
We’ve been electing leftists since statehood. Not a function of machines, though they certainly don’t help.
Winner, winner chicken dinner.
It is always global warming. Iger has blamed attendance drops at WDW on the super hot summer this year. A quick check of the average daily highs in Orlando for June — 88 degrees. For July — 89. Going back the past 9 years from 2015 (first year data was available) the average high in June was 88.77. For July — 89.33. 2023 was much cooler than 2022. It continues to be clear that the uneducated and indoctrinated will believe anything.
Go back one month…
Gov Green put in an exquisitely timed executive order “that suspends a half dozen state and county laws, primarily focusing on land use, historic preservation and environmental review.”
Convenient eh? “Titled “Emergency Proclamation Relating to Housing,” the measure invokes a state law giving the governor broad power to suspend laws that impede a response to emergencies such as natural disasters or the coronavirus pandemic. ”
https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/07/hawaii-gov-takes-dramatic-action-to-solve-housing-crisis-but-is-he-going-too-far/
If you think it’s been hard to find workers lately I’m sure it’s worse for the hotels in the area. So most likely those donating to Green want more workforce housing.
What do you do when the locals effectively resists development? You let them die due to willful incompetence and then you blame that incompetency on climate change because you have an EO already in place that need a natural disaster to move forward with implementation.
Not going to get into all the reused footage claiming it was a D.E.W.. I’ve been in the thick of it online trying to explain to the masses the typical building or car fire temps and how easy it is for a car to catch fire or the melting point of aluminum. If anyone can find an iron block that melted we can talk further about D.E.W. Until then it looks more like the whole thing was politicians taking advantage of a situation for their own benefit.
From your link:
The proclamation addresses many of these these barriers by removing them. The order replaces state and county agencies in charge of administering land use and environmental programs with a lead housing officer and a 22-person panel called the Build Beyond Barriers Working Group. Nani Medeiros, Hawaii’s chief housing officer, will serve as lead housing officer.
Members of the working group include government officials, such as representatives from the state Office of Planning and Sustainable Development, Land Use Commission, island burial councils and county mayors. It also includes non-governmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club and the Land Use Research Foundation, a lobbying group for developers.
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And the 22-person communist committee won’t be subject to sunshine laws requiring public meetings. I think they wanted to call it the Build Back Better Committee but that’s too obvious.
It’s the affordable housing gambit that CA is implementing where the developers get to use public money to develop land and have politicians like Green enact policy to elude previous barriers to development, like environmental policies and zoning. It is not being voted on by the people, but forced by state govt. Newsom started this (prodded by CA’s latest innovation – the affordable housing developer who easily accesses state funds and policy to build in the most dense, desirable areas instead of places where there is space – like Central California) & uses public funds under the “affordable housing crisis” to enact private profit development (much like sports stadiums).
Newsom also ties this new heydey of development in sought-after areas by touting “climate change.”
Per the office of the guv: “Governor Gavin Newsom today signed bipartisan legislation to expand housing production in California, streamline housing permitting, and increase density to create more inclusive and vibrant neighborhoods across the state. The suite of bills also will help address the interrelated problems of climate change and housing affordability by promoting denser housing closer to major employment hubs – a critical element in limiting California’s greenhouse gas emissions. The Governor also highlighted the state’s ongoing work to spur more housing production, tackle barriers to construction and hold local governments accountable.”
Operative phrases – “interrelated problems of climate change and housing affordability”; increase density” (seemingly hypocritical when climate change is the goal); and of course proudly boasting how this allows the state to omit and discard local governance with the phrase “hold local governments accountable,” which begs the question, accountable to whom, Mr. Newsom?
Same here in communist Oregon. They created the crisis. In the Great Financial Crisis they let bailed out banks buy up all the real estate instead of letting regular people have a chance to buy in. Then they opened a sanctuary state to take in illegals who compete for housing and also depress wages. Now the housing market is barely functioning and, like you say, they game the financing. After having wrecked people’s lives, the same powers want to start what amounts to new housing projects to fix it.
I an hardly wait for this part: increase density to create more inclusive and vibrant neighborhoods
“vibrant” … yeah, “vibrant”, yeah, that’s the ticket
Was just reading today about vibrant massacre plots in Austria by vibrant ‘teens’
‘We Wanted to Shoot all Christians in the Class!’ – Austrian Teens Arrested before Planned Massacre
The governor’s head should roll. I wonder if he thought they were just going to implement all this stuff without murdering a whole town. Is there a problem with the remains? Instead of burned, were they disintegrated, so there ARE NONE? We should watch what comes of this, how they squirm. Make them squirm Maui!!
Most liberals have a form of PTSD(look up the symptoms) and I don’t want to minimize real PTSD in our military but these people were traumatized by Trump and need to be put in mental institutions. One of the symptoms has to do with the lack of rational thought leading to the inability to manage everyday basic functions.
These people are sitting around feeling bad and just can’t get up the energy to clean this mess up. Oh my, they are so distraught, whatever will they do, oh wait, it’s due to climate change? Oh no, they’ll have to sit home in a corner and think about how they can trash republicans because , yes, that will make them feel better. Yesssss, republicans are at fault, lets sit here and dither away. They have to put this out of their minds because they are out of their minds.
Excellent post! That is exactly what I see from the idiot so called liberals in St. Louis city and county.
Blue state incompetence basically says it all. I think I saw somewhere (maybe Newsmax) that substandard compromised power lines were the catalyst. Blue people will never admit it though. Especially as long as there is the “climate change” drool….
For damning Maui scandal coverage, watch from 33:00
Dan Bongino Show – 21 Aug 2023
https://bongino.com/ep-2071-trumps-surprising-announcement
This same tactic was used to clear out the low end tenement apartments near the boardwalk in Atlantic City when legal gambling was voted in by the NJ voters back in the 70’s. Almost by magic, these apartment buildings were catching fire and burning down, without any attempt to evict the tenants.
Let’s run this down Danno.
-old and typically dry wooden and termite infested buildings.
-dry side of island.
-reports of thermite placed in locations to enhance damage.
-police and construction vehicles and workers blocking exit paths and turning cars around to go directly back into it.
-blackrock and vanguard having a controlling or significant interest in the power company.
-sustainable grid, smart all funding provided, normal maintenance of current power grid not funded.
(Oahu reportedly has taken the last coal for its power plant and will run solely on wind and solar when it is depleted)
-pineapple fields fallow and grasses overtook the area.
-WEF smart city presentation in 2023 highlighted Lahaina as a model area and emphasis 15 minute city.
-pineapple corporations usurped the vote and rights of some native Hawaiians or pressured them to vote for statehood.
-the Hawaii population as a whole does not like haoles as they called, and distrusts and does not want them on the islands overall.
-hurricane Dora was likely ma made or enhanced with technology.
-Dora was 600 miles the Hawaiian Islands and differing models showed substantial different wind velocities.
-US mil has a significant presence of space force on the island of Maui.
-Raytheon corp. has spouted publicly in 2015 that they developed and had scalar-microwave dew technology.
-DOD sec Vespar in 2019 stated US Mil had the Raytheon dew capability.
-vid of the area during and post shows and sounds like some technology was aiding or hitting the fire area. A gas station in the foreground
showed this. This was not normal. Burn areas at times were perfectly circular. This is not normal. Cars and trucks and other items had melted aluminum alloy wheels and the like melted to a molten state. And many items pulverized and incinerated.
-fema, Red Cross and others reports of unsavory actions by them and restrictions to receiving and distributing aid to those in need.
-school children told to stay home, school cancelled, and shelter in place.
-water and power on and off at wrong times.
-only 11-12 pieces of fire fire fighting equipment for all Hawaiian islands. No known fire boats owned or used.
-massive taxes on lodging stays were available to provide for public safety and fire fighting vehicles but apparently was not a priority.
-ocean water could have been used to fight the fires.
I think Steve mcgarret of the original series could solve this.
Here is another thought.. if Maui and other areas have very limited water, if an EV car or truck were to burn there, wold or cod an attempt be made to put it out? Remember these fires are next to impossible to put out and it takes mega water to keep dousing it.
Maui does not have “very limited water”. The problem is in the central valley, if you want agriculture other than running stock you have to move water from one part of the island to another. King Kalakaua gave Samual Alexander rights to divert Maui water to the central valley in the 1870s. The resulting infrastructure was something of an engineering marvel. In Hawaii the state owns all water under a “public trust” theory.
List is pretty much BS. Real problem is communists who infiltrated the unions like ILWU in the middle of last century, followed by post-war dem takover of gov’t during the ramp up to statehood. Now we have a gov’t that mainly operates for its own power and enrichment, both elected and public workers.
Book ’em all, Danno!
I live here. Just a few miles north of Lahaina. This is a disaster within a disaster.
The fire wasn’t started by any laser beams from George Soros. It was caused by faulty electrical equipment, dry conditions and high winds. The conditions were perfect for an intense fire that acted as a blast furnace and consume 1 block every 30 seconds. Almost all of downtown Lahaina was constructed of wood.
The incompetence of government leaders before, during and after the fire compounded the problems and ultimately the fatalities and these people would have blood on their hands had not all the people been vaporized with no blood to be spilled.
Yesterday I attended a birthday party in our little beach park in Honokowai that has turned into an emergency resource center.
The party was for a 15 year old boy who perished in the fire. His family wanted to celebrate his special day and I can tell you it was the most emotional thing I have ever experienced in my life. The family wasn’t crying as much as I was.
The father of the young boy would be understandably forgiven had he been bitter or sad to a point of being useless to himself, his family and his community. If he had drunk himself to some type of solace, who could blame him. But that’s not what this man is doing. This man. The father of the young boy who lost his home and all possessions has been volunteering everyday all day at the beach park. What an inspiration this otherwise unassuming and simple man is. I’ve never seen anything like it and it’s testimony to God’s Love for us even in these types of circumstances.
🤙🤙❤️❤️
Found in the bin… 🙁
Wood, vegetation or wildfires do not “vaporize” humans, melt cars or aluminum. It is very hard to burn a human body and a fire moving at a mile an hour – moves -burns and moves – they are not stationary long enough to vaporize anything. I’ve been through many fires here in So Cal – all the majors are recent within the past 20-25 years. I grew up here and there were no fires like the ones we see now in the first 40 years of my life.
What has changed?
I’ve lived all my 60+ years in California. I’ll second your contention.
Something changed about 20 years ago. Fires are MUCH more frequent and bigger, than they were in my younger days.
One theory, stated by Dane Wiggington (geoengineering watch.org), is that the aluminum, barium, and other heavy metal particulates that have been being sprayed in our skies for a couple of decades now are incorporated into the soil and thus cause fires to burn much hotter.
Thanks for that. Here on Oahu, I don’t think there is anyone who isn’t doing what they can to help. I do find it ironic that super ferry night have been useful in recovery efforts, but that’s an argument for another day.
I trust nothing about this fire. Saturday, Nick Sorter who is investigating this on his own was stalked by some creep that found him. No location was announced yet this guy found him. How?
The creepy governor was talking about how they needed to rebuild Maui and said they were going to “re-imagine the island” and rebuild it.
Biden said no investigation.
They are covering up something.
Elementary, Watson: If there’s a Democrat in charge, mayhem and death ensue as their masters rub their hands together gleefully waiting for the spoils.
Supposedly BATFE has people on island investigating.
I’m with suspicious cat….I don’t trust the Governor or anyone else who puts the blame on Climate Change.
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about
There’s no prohibition on being stupid
A lot of people talk without knowing what they’re talking about
Just because he has ‘Governor’ in front of his name, that should somehow distinguish him as knowledgeable?
— Every year at this time it’s hot and dry and grasses dry out in Hawaii; it’s “seasonal drought”
— Every year at this time we have strong tradewinds as much as 30-45 knots (and they’re known to accelerate over downslope sides of the mountains, as in this case)
— Every year we have 4 to 8 or so hurricanes passing by; a few strike the islands; I don’t think there’s any scientific indication they’re becoming stronger or more numerous as a result of ‘global warming’
— A high-pressure system was over Hawaii at the time, not the hurricane. The hurricane passed 500 miles south.
It appears to have helped squeeze the pressure gradient that forced stronger winds, but it was strong, fair-weather easterlies from the high-pressure system that generated the winds. Again, a high-pressure system was firmly anchored over Hawaii at the time.
It’s fine the Governor doesn’t know enough about weather
But he’s in a high enough position he should be able to have a qualified meteorologist brief him so he doesn’t come off as blatantly not knowing what he’s talking about
Given government is taking property, it draws into question motive.
Blessings to the people and spirit of the land. I trust courage and strength will push back against the festering corruption.
Oh my word. The most sickening thought has popped into my head in the last half hour regarding the fate of all those missing children, and how convenient of Josh to solidify my worries that these bodies will never be found……
Who else has a pit in their stomach wondering if those children were kidnapped?? And, this close to the release of “Sound Of Freedom”…..
I think they were dustified. Disintegrated. Sacrificed. Y’all need to start thinking outside the box. Stealing a town full of kids is hard. With 21st century tech, sacrifice would have been easy.
Well, we do still wonder what happened to “Peter Boy” on Hawaii, supposedly Aunty Rose was taking care of him. Like most liberal states HI CPS isn’t known for its competence.
Can it get any worse???
Unfathomable.
Cold blooded.
Reprehensible.
Madness!!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/hawaii-announces-plans-ukraine-independence-day-raise-money/
Global Warming, uh huh. I’m surprised he didn’t blame Trump too. I wonder what percentage of the American public actually swallows this kind of claptrap.
LOL…Are these not the CLOWNS who want to END AM RADIO???!!!
It’s a scream…The Communications grid was destroyed and most that had AM radio knew what to do!!!
My internet connection is under attack since posting a recent comment here. For the last 4 days it has been down almost 90% of the time. Anyone else having issues? Must be those Commies within the Biden regime!
Never had this problem under Trump..
Yes. Spectrum. 90% is about right.
Do you have a VPN? If not, I suggest you get one for your computer system! 🤔
How has the Democratic party of Hawaii allowed a NON-NATIVE HAWAIIAN to be overlooked as its top leader of governornace-the governor? I thought they were all about overthrowing their colonizers?
You have to go back to John Burns to understand the makeup. Burns got his power as a Honolulu PD officer during the war where he could determine which Japanese Ancestry residents were considered “security risks”. Green is probably considered moderate compared to Abercrombie.
Thank you. I do not pretend to know the intricacies of HI politics, but if there was one place where the electorate would clamor for the most inclusive, indigenous, and native leader, I would think it would be Hawaii, so that their ideology and platform would be realized. It was surprising.
I saw a post by a decades-long Maui electric lineman, 30 years there, said that the Lahaina area was famous for intense windstorm barreling down the mountains suddenly at 40-80 mph, some almost knocked him off the pole several times.
He aid that this is COMMON KNOWLEDGE on Maui, and that at this time of the year, everyone is on the lookout for fire. He didn’t think it was DEW.
thx, I posted above before getting to your comment
yes, not out of the ordinary to have strong, gusty winds in that area
… and the weather reports often advise of stronger winds on downslope areas, as is Lahaina to the prevailing easterly trade winds
Biden administration said they can replace the children with new immigrants
Scum bum and quite believable. That’s been the net effect of “legalized” abortion for the last 50 years. Almost every aborted child has been replaced by an immigrant, legal or illegal. The Greedy Globalist Bastards *want* this, in addition to a general culling.
“3” other fires that the fireman had to respond to? That right there is a problem and it’s not “climate change”.
Climate change is a man-made excuse to control us and do whatever they want and yes i wouldn’t trust them in their quest for this power to do whatever they thin will get us there and duped the useless idiots in the process.
How convenient to blame everything on the constantly changing weather with no actual references to the past bcz nothing is different. Gaslighting and mass psychosis of the population.
I’m in San Diego and just went through Hurricane Hillary-which was actually nothing but a rain storm that had been hyped to the maximum to create the mass hysteria of the useless idiots. You would have thought that we were facing a Cat 5 Florida type hurricane by the way our “government” was acting. Disgusting fear mongers.
Heartbreaking
Better not let the vultures come in and start cleaning off the piles. In many cases it is the only point of reference you may have to ownership.
Cases after Katrina, property owners had to spend years in court litigating property lines, even with a deed in hand.
Worse, while the federal government gave extention on filing taxes. State and county officials demanded full property tax bills be paid on time, and that house was still there.
Many jurisdictions have a program that allows you to postpone payment of property taxes in the case of natural disaster or arson. The program also adjusts the value of the property which also changes the tax paid. You have to call your local assessors office or get the application to get on the program. In a disaster like this the assessors office will be tasked with going out and review each and every property, but that takes time and you don’t want to get missed.
Retired property tax assessor here.
Not after Katrina. Not in the worse hit along the gulf. Not all, but most clerks expected the bill of the previous assessment paid. It took almost 3 years for property to be reassessed.
One county had to spend 5 years trying to reverse erroneous tax sales. I am aware that those people had to be on their 3rd year but it is the principle.
I couldn’t believe when shown.
The Maui Inferno: Caused By A Directed Energy Weapon?
https://principia-scientific.com/the-maui-inferno-caused-by-a-directed-energy-weapon/
What the Media Won’t Tell You About the Maui Fires
https://www.globalresearch.ca/media-wont-tell-maui-fires/5829614
total bullsh*t. I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth, including and & the. Those people were torched, and they set up barricades so they couldn’t even escape
Did none of you check the early life section of the Wikipedia page for the Governor?
BlackRock will swoop in soon to buy up the land at discount prices and build multi-unit structures now permitted per the good Governor’s actions.
I thought most land in HI was leasehold? Now they are selling it?
yes I did. 😼
Wikipedia pages are constantly edited by left wingers .
Wiki_ = Soros
Lahaina in Maui is one of the most liberal cities in Hawaii.
Why did the Democrat politicians shut off the water and
turn off the emergency response sirens in Lahaina?
B/c their “useful idiots” have now become “useless eaters”.
And they don’t actually need their votes anymore.
The cars in the Lahaina wild fire looked very similar to the
cars in the World Trade Center 911.
Some engine blocks of cars were vaporized.
There was no wild fire at the World Trade Center 911.
ummmm – there WAS a burning building, several floors of jet fuel and office furnishings and dividers and paper files on fire that crashed to the ground
kind of a raging inferno, flames and more than a bit of black smoke, that kinda thing — I’m pretty sure a buncha people were jumping out of the windows to their death to try to escape it
so it wasn’t a “wild fire” – if by that you insist that it be out in the woods or meadows or something
but it WAS a fire … and it WAS pretty wildly out of control
or do I remember that incorrectly?
“Every destroyed building on 9/11 had a prefix of WTC.
Surprisingly little collateral damage was suffered by the
very nearby buildings that were not part of the WTC complex.
As for the WTC buildings not totally destroyed, multiple
circular holes were visible in them — especially in buildings
WTC5 and WTC6.” (Judy Wood, Ph.D, 2010, Where Did
The Towers Go, p.197). Dr. Judy Wood did an excellent job
in the anaylsis of the World Trade Center 9/11.
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It looked like a circular 3dB beamwidth of something cut out
the large holes in the WTC buildings. Clear photos are in Judy
Wood book showing large holes in the WTC buildings.
Look up Larry Silverstein re: WTC
The craziest video I saw (shortly after the fire) first appeared on Twatter… but was quickly disappeared. It resurfaced elsewhere a couple days later.
(I couldn’t make out the street sign, license plate, or much on the display sign to verify the location. But the wind/weather fits.)
https://rumble.com/v379rl1-have-you-ever-seen-fire-crawl-across-and-burn-the-pavement.html
Mirrored link:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BTgyghwESeFw/
that doesn’t look like Lahaina
that looks like an urban city with high-rises in the background to the right
no such thing in Lahaina
there were no “Valet Zone” signs like that in Lahaina
again, that’s an urban city somewhere
As has been the case in every disaster in democratic-run states, we’re always left with a choice of two questions with no real in-between answer…
Are the democrats and their bureaucratic appointees really that stunningly incompetent?
or
Are they really that insidiously evil and full of depraved indifference in the quest to achieve their goals?
the land is worth billions for development… could evil have gone this far? Uncut grass around active power lines doesn’t = climate change. $285K spent to upgrade traditional power structure vs $84 million for green energy. Someone lied and it wasn’t Nobummer’s water boy…
Here’s Dan Bongino outraged over the Maui fire deaths – second segment
Ep. 2071 Trump’s Surprising Announcement
Never ascribe to incompetence that which is more accurately explained by evil.
Do not cut them ANY slack.
The Globalists hate us and want us dead.
Never forget this.
This sold out leftist zombie governor in this interview, showed he knew nothing about what was going on with Pacific Electric. But he knows one thing, it was started because of CLIMATE WARMING. These people are sick and perverted, just look at his face.
Just like all the happenings shrouded in the mystery of what happened the facts are something we will never know.
It’s part of the climate crisis narrative – they want fires and dead people they can blame on it.
Check out this website for honest reporting:
https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/the_truth_about_maui
Also, do not miss this conversation that Dr. Robert Malone has with two Hawaiian professionals…an eye-opener:
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/update-from-the-maui-fires-frontlines?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
pretty much falls back on one of the go-to democrat/communist excuses and/or distractions when facts and truth start to appear; climate change, racism, white privilege, homophobia, etc., depending on the agenda.
I’m sure I’m leaving a few out, but climate change and racism are the two quick and easy cards to toss out to the sheep
Start @ 2 min… 🤨
(Well done on the digging & presentation connecting the dots)
“FEMA, DOD, DHS HOLD HUGE EMERGENCY PLANNING MEETING 3 MONTHS BEFORE MAUI DEW FIRESTORM”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0j9O0RrgryGl/
Stories from Maui. Anything you thought of and more. https://gizadeathstar.com/2023/08/maui-fires-roundup/
This interests me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maui_Space_Surveillance_Complex. Maybe somebody wanted this deep space satellite tracker taken out & missed. Maui government would probably have done the same things they did…if they knew. Dems in charge, who runs the Dems?
People need to stop using Wikipedia for God sakes . It’s run and controlled by the communists and constantly edited to fool people .
Wikipedia Founder Confesses: ‘We Are Democrat Propaganda’
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This interview tells you why these Leftist psychopaths need to be removed from power. The real lesson that people should take away from this disaster is to reject the scam of global warming, and put people in power who are not brainwashed by its false claims. We are at the beginning of the third Grand Solar Minimum since the 1600 hundreds. The next 2 to 3 decades will be cold. The Eddy Minimum is just starting and will run until the 2050’s.
This rata** leftist dog 💩 should be facing the damn death penalty for what happened especially to THE DAMN CHILDREN!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
As more details of this disaster are made known, it’s becoming evident that politics (and also lack of experience that accompanies it) overrode/interfered with a life saving response that required immediate action. The Democrat elected and appointed state and local officials (including any federal officials) involved in any decision making regarding the strategy for fighting the fire and the seemingly lack of recovery efforts for the surviving victims need to be held accountable.
The media overwhelmingly claim the Maui fire was caused by climate change
Throw their own rubric right back at them
Tell them “that wasn’t climate, that was weather” (nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah)
which was what they’d yell at us when we’d point to winter blizzards and ice storms and say “global warming, huh?”
Global warming is his only gambit, given the abject failures of Hawaiian Electric and every governmental entity involved. The best he can hope for is to feed the climate trolls, hoping they give cover to the grossly, and deadly, incompetent principals in this tragedy.
He has the party-line “climate change” bullshit well memorized, doesn’t he?
Oh, and one more thing: why aren’t the “emergency administrator” and the guy who withheld the water release being held over on charges of negligent homicide? Oh, I remember, they’re democrats – no accountability.
This is Guvmt Ma$$ Murder. Deal with the facts. These psychos are no longer afraid of being exposed.