Everything about the Maui fire is sketchy. It was sketchy when it happened. It is sketchy in the aftermath, and it remains sketchy in the recovery stage. The FBI, EPA and FEMA have essentially locked down the island, and there are reports of people being evicted who did not perish and did not lose their homes.
I’m not sure if the issues are related to systemically gross incompetence, nefarious constructs, a blue state with poor systems and weak leaders, or a combination of all the above. However, what is abundantly clear is that the people of Maui are victims of more than just a massive wildfire.
Hawaii Gov. Josh Green appears on “Face the Nation” to tell Margareet Brennan that the failure of the now-resigned Maui Emergency Management Agency Administrator was “utterly unsatisfactory, to the world.” “Of course, as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off,” Green said. The governor also stated there are more than 1,000 people still missing and many of them are children. He blames global warming. WATCH:
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Hawaii’s Governor Joshua Green in Honolulu. Good morning. Thank you for getting up so early, and I’m so sorry for what is going on in your state.
GOV. JOSH GREEN: Thank you, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, can you tell us how many are still unaccounted for, and how long will it take to identify remains?
GOV. GREEN: More than 1000 are unaccounted for, about 1050. It will take several weeks, still, some of the challenges are going to be extraordinary. As you reported, 85% of the- of the land of the impact zone has been covered now by what amounts to an army of search and rescue teams and 41 dogs. So 85% of the land has been covered. Now we go into the larger buildings, which require peeling back some of the floors and structures. That last 15% could take weeks. We do have extreme concerns that because of the temperature of the fire, the remains of those who have died, in some cases, may be impossible to recover meaningfully. So, there are going to be people that are lost forever. And right now, we’re working obviously with the FBI and everyone on the ground to make sure that we do what we can to assess who’s missing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is hard to hear, Governor. I know a local Maui official said a large number of the dead may have actually been children who were left home that day because schools were closed, many of them alone or with their grandparents. Is that the case?
GOV. GREEN: That is possible. And that’s-that’s what we’re sharing here internally, that it’s possible that there will be many children. This is the largest catastrophe and disaster that’s ever-hit Maui, probably that’s ever-hit Hawaii outside of wartime events. So, we just thank everyone in the world for reaching out and supporting us through all of the, you know, the ways that they can. Right now, we are trying to make sure everyone is sheltered, and we begin to get all the federal resources we can to make life in some way livable for the survivors. That’s where we are at the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When will the surviving children of West Maui be able to return to school? What do they need?
GOV. GREEN: In some cases, they’re returning later this week. Children can go to any school that’s in the region or where they are. We have six hotels that are basically full of families and their children that have survived. We also are doing distance learning. A lot of that was implemented during the COVID pandemic. There are just so many things to share. King Kamehameha Elementary School in Lahaina is burned to the ground. I mean, it’s totally gone. It used to host 650 children, some of those children have passed. Others will, of course, go to neighboring schools. You have to remember this is a very rural part of Hawaii. And that’s one of the challenges. So, schools are far apart. We’ve authorized other means of transportation, you know, vans and things to help families get farther distances to school.
MARGARET BRENNAN: As-as we’ve been discussing, there are now a lot of questions about all of the policies and procedures. You know, the National Weather Service had issued a Fire Watch for your state August 6, a few days before the fire hit. With the siren system, you said to CNN on Monday and again on Tuesday that you believe some of the sirens were broken. When did you learn they weren’t fully functional?
GOV. GREEN: We assess every siren across the state on the first of the month. And then we ask people to update them and fix them to their abilities. You know, I, of course, I as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off. The challenge that you’ve heard, and it’s not to excuse or explain anything. The challenge has been that historically, those sirens are used for tsunamis. That’s when I came to Hawaii 23 years ago was told when I was living down near the shore. So, it’s usually tsunamis and hurricanes. For perspective, we’ve had six fire emergencies this August, we had six fire emergencies between 1953 and 2003. That’s how- how fast things are changing. I know that there is debate out there whether we should be talking about climate change or not. Well, let’s be real world, climate change is here we are in the midst of it with a hotter planet, and fiercer storms. And you asked the question, I’m coming back to it right now. Do I wish those sirens went off? Of course, I do. And I think that the answer that the- the emergency administrator for Maui, who has resigned, said was, of course, utterly unsatisfactory to the world. But it is the case that- that we’ve historically not used those kinds of warnings or fires.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I understand, and I know that you are conducting a review, but given that your state is experiencing a drought, and you’re in hurricane season, can you say whether other Hawaiian towns are as vulnerable as Lahaina was?
GOV. GREEN: We worry about a lot of our state, Waikoloa on the Big Island, which was experiencing a fire at the same time and required evacuations. We’re worried about them. We worry about all of our state. Some of the state, which is denser and more urban, like Waikiki, has a lot more water and a lot more firefighters, a lot more support. Oahu has three quarters of the population of the state. But we’ve had, although it’s not been reported in the press, we’ve had multiple small fires, some on Oahu, some on Big Island, of course, more on Maui, even in the days since the fire. And the firefighters, I want to thank them. They’ve been heroic in this period of time. They’ve just been constantly working, and everyone has stepped up. But yes, we’re worried, and we have done all that we can at the moment to continue to warn people that this is a season of fire and everyone, of course, doesn’t need more reminding because of what happened in Lahaina.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There has been scrutiny of the largest utility, Hawaiian Electric, because there were images, I know you know this, of power lines, possibly starting fires. Last year, that company had proposed an upgrade of the grid with Lahaina as a priority area and suggested a rate hike to do that. Do you know why that didn’t happen and if that contributed?
GOV. GREEN: I don’t know personally whether or not the- the power lines were the- the primary reason the fire occurred. That’s why I asked for a comprehensive review, I think two days into this, which is very atypical. Normally, these kinds of investigations come months or-or more later. But we have to ask that question, we have to ask the question on every level of how any one city, county, state could have done better and the private sector. This is- this is the world that we live in now. In this case, and I’ve seen footage of it from some of the survivors, I’ve seen footage of how it looked during the fire and how things were exploding and what the fierce winds looked like. They were 80 miles per hour gusting and the fire, I’m now told, was as high as 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. It just destroyed everything. It’s not to excuse anything else from any company. It’s just to explain what the world should prepare for, and I humbly asked all of the cities and states to spend that money now to prevent disasters like we are seeing here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So just to be clear, when you’re talking about global warming, are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?
GOV. GREEN: Yes, it did. There’s always going to be incredible things that people do to save lives, from the firefighters, from citizens. And there’s always going to be decisions that are made that I’m sure aren’t perfect in the moment. And- but when you have fire that move more than a mile a minute, and what happened I’m told by some of the survivors, they were at the initial fire. It was put out sometime late in the afternoon in Lahaina, and then the firefighters had to go to three other fires that had started because of the conditions. When they left the fire started up again. And then when the storm winds from Dora, which were that strong, swept it out, it just destroyed everything. So, there’s no excuses to ever be made. But there are finite- there are finite resources sometimes in the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, we’re watching, the country’s watching, good luck and thank you for your time.
GOV. GREEN: Thank you for your love and support. We appreciate it.
This was not incompetence. But as some are wont to say, “…there are no conspiracies…”
3 fun words: “wildfire” and “climate change” 🤔
and ‘new covid mandates’ coinciding with election season. Wow who would’ve thought
Well, it worked for them before, so why not use it again?
Unconstitutional and treason.
And then climate change and affordable housing – per Democrat policy favoring developers
Deep blue state, Hawaii Electric, chinese space lasers always on or messing around
what could go wrong?
obviously the climate genie
In Australia, we have really poor land management when it comes to fire preparedness. For example, minimal back burning and ground clearing etc etc – a lot of it is illegal even for homeowners to do on their own property. Our big bushfires pre covid were severely exacerbated by a lot of mismanagement
I now fear that we will follow what happened in Maui, with the water restrictions. Those in charge will tell us we’re not allowed to access water for fires.
And of course arson and land mismanagement and water restrictions will all be blamed on climate fraud.
Someone tells you you can’t have water, hang them.
Go for ironic: Drown them instead.
Just like Loretta Fuddy?
Never forget that it was the corrupt officials in Hawaii that legitimized “Born in Kenya” Obama so that he could usurp the Presidency for 8 years. If it were not for the major Hawaiian fraud Obama would not have been in the White House. After a long chain of fraudulent acts, Hawaii’s Health Director Loretta Fuddy said that she attested to the authenticity of the “certified copies of the original” birth certificate that she gave to Obama. And Obama’s White House birth certificate had the registrar’s stamp fraud (with the misspelled “TXE” and the happy face in Alvin’s signature–plus the fact that the registrar’s stamp is a linked element in the pdf that was scaled and rotated -90 degrees). After a long investigation Sheriff Joe Arpaio said, “Upon close examination of the evidence, it is my belief that forgery and fraud was likely committed in key identity documents including President Obama’s long-form birth certificate, his Selective Service Registration card, and his Social Security number…. There is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that this President was born in Hawaii, or in the United States for that matter.”
Loretta Fuddy found out that after you are no longer of use to the Democrat rulers, you are imminently at risk of being added to the Clinton & Obama’s skeleton closets.
https://canadafreepress.com/article/what-are-the-chances-the-mysterious-death-of-loretta-fuddy
VOWG and desertson:
Yep, I agree with all of that
He’s either a true believer, or an idiot, or evil. I just can’t figure out which, and who is this cat?
That my friend is “Curious Cat”…………
Suspicious cat
Me Too.
No reason it can’t be all three.
I think I smell another Las Vegas/Uvalde moment.
If it smells like road kill. Its roadkill.
Some of the very same actors involved in all of these “events”.
Perhaps its a good location for ‘them’ to build a new 15 minute green city’… a WEF showplace. They wouldn’t want people trying to rebuild when they have their own plans for it. I expect people will be encouraged to move elsewhere. Perhaps materials they need to rebuild will become difficult to acquire? They will have it all finished in time for the big U.N. /NWO/WEF 2030 deadline.
https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/development-agenda/
Interesting timing. Confirming a ‘one week covenant’ or contract?, perhaps a week of years? with many(nations) including Israel. 7 years ending at 2030.
KJV: DANIEL 9:27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week ( in 3 and a half years)he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, …
No coincidence that Bezos, Zuckerberg, Oprah,Obama, Ellison and the like have been building huge compounds in Hawaii.
Hmmmm………..the new ‘gated community’ to spare some of the special people from that which is planned for the main land??!?!
Hunger Games…….zone 1.
Warfare is streamlined when the enemy concentrates his resources out in the open.
Remember how the British wore spiffy red coats and marched inn straight lines back in the 18th century?
perhaps they should put all the illegals/refugees into 15 minute cities
Only in their country of origin.
Remove them from the countries they invaded first.
Whether it’s the streets of Chicago or the streets of Maui, people needlessly die because machine Democrats will tell any lie and let anyone die to get power, hold on to authority and divert money into Democrat pockets, preferably their own.
They yammer on about diversity but all they seem to actually deliver is a diversity of competence and lawfulness. Whether such arises from avarice or stupidity, the result is the same.
Arson is not climate change. Neither is arson by the willful withholding of corrective action or apparent premeditated breach of trustee duty which creates inaction that may be reasonably expected to lead to the deaths of the innocent and other tragic avoidable loss.
They should change their name to The Democide Party.
Gee, I wonder who all the Maui Wowies voted for?
Well stated.
I’m of the notion that contemporary”political parties” no longer have credibilty.. that is certainly here in the States, in spades! Both the Donkeys.. AND the Pachiderms.. crave grift beyond ALL else.
Just remember that when pointing that j’cuse finger..
We are ALL watching Margaret, and most thinking folk had climate change way down on the list of reasons.
Some of us would like to talk to Obama about choices and judgements but we’d never hear that from any of you. Or the fact that the Biden name is hardly mentioned in time of crisis?
The MSM really is shit!
And that cat, is so cool 🙂
Picture in your mind the “Governor of the Great State and Island of Hawaii”.
It’s sure as heck not THAT guy.
Look at his body language. What do you think his handlers told him? “Do contrite. And don’t forget to mention climate change a bunch of times.” I saw a clip of him the other day and he was saying the state was already trying to acquire the land to build workforce housing (pack and stack apartment buildings) and green open spaces (the developers of the apartments have to buy green credits for every unit they build). Yeah it’s a scam
This is pretty good. It’s from an article on zerohedge.
I think I’ve heard this story a bunch of times before and it always sounds the same as this one …
Mika Brzezinski Our Job Is to Control Exactly What People Think
The first thing I thought when I saw his folded hands was photo op! Like Biden’s bowed head pretense after Afghanistan and the Charles Dickens character Uriah Heap’s fakery—so NOT “umble”AT ALL. Shame on them!!!
It’s beyond words to grasp that so many elders and youngsters may have perished in Lahaina .From what we are finding out, doesn’t it qualify as a mass murder?
Yikes, “workforce housing”? The greedy developers lining Green’s candidacy will use anything to avert zoning, etc to use public funds for their developments that are able to use federal and state funding (but privatize profits). There is plenty of housing in the resorts that will be empty for awhile with tourists going elsewhere. Hopefully, a native who truly values the earth will hold Green accountable (as a cardboard cutout for greedy affordable housing czars).
The Democrat machine in Hawaii is so corrupt and incompetent, the people of the state are right now beyond the help of anyone sensible. The entire Hawaiian leadership is mentally ill. This is the common thread in every “blue” state. Leftist lunatics are in charge and cannot govern.
What alarms went off when they had the missile false alarm.
That’s a very good question.
STFU you coward.
The sheer number of destructive “fires”, wild or otherwise, that have occurred since the Nov.3 Coup is certainly beyond mere coincidence, and cannot be blamed on “the climate crisis” since there is no climate crisis. You don’t have to have a tinfoil hat on to see that.
Governor is compromised. Land grab, pure and simple. Only question is the ‘who’ paid the governor for this to happen. Follow the money, and you have your answer.
Arsonists (or DEW’s; look at the melted car tire rims) set the fires, State employees turn off water, sirens not activated (remember the 2018 ‘false missile alert’?), and police won’t let victims flee the effected area.
And oh my goodness, who is this?? John Pelletier, the current Maui police chief, was the Incident Commander of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre… how weird.
https://thewashingtonstandard.com/coincidence-the-incident-commander-during-2017-las-vegas-massacre-is-now-maui-police-chief-video/
This was a coordinated catastrophic event meant to intimidate the local families off their land.
To add insult to injury, effected families were offered US$700 for their ‘trouble’.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-response-to-maui-fires-b2393929.html
This wasn’t a ‘natural’ disaster.
$700.00 what an insult!
“Buried News: What was with that Hawaii water official getting showered with leis from ‘supporters’?
By Monica Showalter”
source: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/buried_news_what_was_with_that_hawaii_water_official_getting_showered_with_leis_from_supporters.html
And this young guy Resigned , supposedly for Health reasons ? Yea right – Maybe for MENTAL health reasons —He was such a real Whack job who was way too far out there that they couldn’t hide his screwy incompetence so they dumped him — too bad that they always do these clean up/coverups AFTER the screwups and AFTER damage done .
“And then we ask people to update them and fix them to their abilities.”
From each according to their abilities….
So why do they need the government in the first place?
Recall that the Emergency Broadcasting System, in place for decades, didn’t go off during 9/11. Yet they’re still doing their stupid testing.
Somebody is making big money off these systems that aren’t even used.
True, but they do work with #FalseFlags!
It’s the FEAR!!!!
IMHO, this is either another ‘intelligence’ operation, and / or a move by the state to exercise eminent domain over privately owned property.
Could be, someone was in possession of the light-bringer’s birth certificate?
His ’emotional affect’ is ‘off’.
Actually everything is ‘off’ about him.
🙄
It always is with sociopath types.
Yeah.
It also reminds me of one those hostage videos.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/07/hawaii-gov-takes-dramatic-action-to-solve-housing-crisis-but-is-he-going-too-far/
(Governer issues executive order July 2023 suspending zoning and housing building laws because of affordable housing crisis)
https://ieeesmc2023.org/
(Smart city summit in Maui September 2023)
Fricking Liar.
Evil stuff going on in America.
In the WORLD!
“Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty.” – Samuel Adams
“Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience direct their course to this happy country as their last asylum.” – Samuel Adams
But we, the USA, is a centerpiece as we are the only Constitutional Republic with limited government and inalienable rights of citizens over government enshrined in the documents that created the government!!!!!!!!!
No other country has the guarantee of citizens rights over government, no other. And it is in the founding documents that were used to create the country. Any, ANY, attack on them is treason.
Back that up that the First and Second Amendments are freedom of SPEECH and OWNING OF FIREARMS.
“A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government .” – George Washington
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” – Abraham Lincoln
U.S. Constitution Article VI, Sections 2 and 3
Section 2
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
Section 3
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U. S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for any law which violates the Constitution to be valid.
“All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” Marbury vs Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch), 137, 174, 176, (1803)
“The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written,” – John Marshall
Marbury vs Madison “the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.” – John Marshal
STOP listening to their lies. Their master is the Father of Lies. There is no truth in them, remove the traitors and restore the Constitution.
That is all.
Another scum-of-the-earth dem governor blaming the fake ‘global warming / climate change crisis’ for his or her negligence and incompetence. Like that disgusting she-dog NY governor who lectured us all on climate change after SHE failed to close highways ahead of a vicious but forecasted blizzard last winter that stranded and killed many motorists. Of course, idiots like Margaret Brennan will cover for them and continue misleading the public. May they all go to hell – sooner rather than later.
“climate change amplified the cost of human error”
The interviewer, per script, gives the gift of the latest, eminently repeatable, excuse for incompetence. You’re going to hear this one a lot.
The sirens are remembered for also being tripped during the falls NORK missile strike of some time ago. So apparently the doctrine of “tsunami seek high ground” is the same for “nuclear strike inbound go outside & seek high ground.” All evidence they’ve not had a real Emergency Mgr around.
A lot of evil came together on Maui.
God bless & keep the children.
There are also videos being posted, particularly one of 2 teenage boys and their mother, showing the police had the roads blocked in some areas preventing folks from fleeing which forced them back towards the fires and ultimately escaping by ditching their cars and running out into the water. This whole episode goes beyond the realm of sketchy.
Yes, I saw that as well.
I would like to hear from the people who survived not the worthless politicians and their agendas.
Why doesn’t a reporter go to Maui and see for themselves?
How do so many dysfunctional incompetents get elected to high government offices? You get what you vote. … Or what you permit by cheating.
No sane person takes the time or responsibility of making sure their government is running Constitutionally (correctly) by running for offfice.
Most offices are filled with psychopaths because they are drawn to power and the majority of people just want to live unhindered and do not feel the need to control everyone else in tyrannical fashion for self agrandizement.
Does that help?
People need to do what TRUMP did and step up for their civic duty.
I have done mine after year/s of being asked and harassed as one of the few people, or perhaps the only person really, who showed up for the meetings to see what was being done in the city.
None really cares, doesn’t want to be bothered, but that is the Banality of Evil in action also.
I have to agree there is more to this disaster than meets the eye. Without all of the facts, it is difficult to zero in on the exact motive, but this was done on purpose and deliberately denied the resources to control and put out the fires. Also denying needed supplies sent from people, from the other islands for the People of Lahaina, Maui was totally unacceptable. There is definitely some serious evil at work here, but what do you expect when Democrat Communist are in total control? Also, with Democrat Communist in total control, I am very concerned about what happen to all of the children. What sick perverts in the United States and other countries are just now receiving their little bundles of joy for abuse? I hope I am totally wrong on all of this and just have an overactive dark imagination.
I’d be very interested to know how many military/defense dept facilities were damaged or destroyed. I’m betting that information is exceedingly hard to get.
They learned a lesson from WWll; strategy is essential in the ecoterrorism war for control by the NWO. The site is essential to the players: big impact, little investigation, no answers……out of the public realm on an island; what could be better.
Like the largest massacre in the US history in Las Vegas, it will be hushed up and become a ‘conspiracy theory’……….notice the same players are on the scenes.
No Governor, it’s not “global warming”, it’s leftist overreach.
And while I understand FEMA being there, what does the FBI have to do with anything? And the EPA has always done more harm than good. It should be be shut down and disbanded for good.
I was going to post nearly the same until I saw your comment. In a sane, non-authoritarian country, why would the FBI be involved in a response to a natural disaster?
Psy-ops and a coming FBI declaration that nothing clandestine happened in Lahaina.
Relax everybody./s
Child Collection Duties for trafficking.
That cat doesn’t even begin to look suspicious enough for what is going on in Maui.
I suppose the governor has a point, since we’ve been informed the electric utility deferred clearing dry brush around the powerlines in order to reallocate resources to green energy projects.
A lot of “worrying.” Especially the governor, who’s seems to be focused on the “world.”
Excellent point, but then again, the governor is from the East Coast and is not native to Hawaii.
The same people that set and coordinated these fires are the same people behind COVID 19. Bet on it. It is the same MO and lack of remorse for dead humans that they caused. This time it was children. These are sick, sick people.
Democratic state, democratic governor, democratic mayor, democratic policies. What other result would you expect than complete chaos and incompetence?
I wonder if this was also done for China to come in and buy up land next to Pearl Harbor.
Democrats are completely incompetent in terms of fiduciary responsibility – i.e. – real world life with responsibilities to others.
I think this is Lord of the Flies in lieu of a land grab. We really know nothing about what is happening.
You mistake incompetence with greedy grifting and stealing of the funds that were earmarked for such trivialities as forest fires and holding back water (who needs dams, amIrightCaliDems), and infrastructures, early warning systems (that only seem to work with #FalseFlags), etc..
edit here, addendum; And it’s not just Democrats, but all of the politicians of ‘both+’ “parties” that follow the (U)niparty directives.
The children are the reason to make this our stand. This is a defining moment in the downfall of America.
Lace em up fellas.
Sadly, “What-a-bout-the-Children” is their favorite shaming tactic to force more democide and socialism down our throats.
EVERY TINME!
How about we keep it simple.
You commit a crime you pay the penalty.
There is only one punishment for treason. Any outside actors involved should be treated as a foreign spy and summarily executed as well.
As I understand it, ALL government employees are to be sworn/affirmed in office to the Constitution.
US Constitution Section 3
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
So all government agencies, including ones they take over like the Department of Education under Carter in 1979, should have all it’s employees sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution.
that makes cleanup of treason much simpler because there is only one (1) litmus test, did you break your oath/affirmation to uphold the US Constitution?
In short, as a judge would say if you broke a law you knew nothing about … “Ignorance of the law is no excuse” (unless it was unconstitutional!) and we can say the same about treason. Didn’t know better, sorry no excuse.
Just from afar ( but with Blue State experience, most recently from the Covid / Nursing Home Fiasco AND That Coverup /excuse making ) -IMHO , 97 %.Typical BLUE STATE incompetence with the hack , unqualified administrators who were panicked and were incompetent in a crisis but are adept at CYA and blame shifting , The Biggest tip-off is the Excuse Making with the “virtue hat tip” to blame Global warming — Tragically Ridiculous….. just my opinion
I fear you are making the mistake of incompetence with premeditated evil intent.
Don’t think so , such negligence , total incompetence with no residual remorse – can look like the latter in retrospect , but the initial screwed up actions by these actors are really too clueless and inept to have a premeditation component – just my opinion –
More billionaires live in the triangle of the Kona coast, Kamuela {Waimea} and Havi on the Big Island than anywhere in the world. AS all of the islands have billionaire syndrome, this is something that should never have happened.
FJB
But what if you were tired of your less affluent neighbors that wouldn’t comply and leave their ancestral homes?
Circumstances rising from the failures related to this fire should prove to everyone that the government is not here to save you.
And to never listen to cops blocking your way out. I want to hear from that officer who turned people around to die.
Climate change caused the people of Hawaii to vote for this genius.
No, that would be the Collectivist ideology of death and destruction.
Past instances described by Ed Dowd in this interview make it possible that this was arson. Power lines shorting and sparking in the high winds is also an easy possibility.
All of the questions about unusual results within the fire zone discussed in the video can be explained by realizing that this fire had the characteristics of a fire storm. On that, see the bombing of Dresden and the fire bombing of Tokyo in WWII. NO need for this insane “directed energy weapons” claim to explain some of the unusual fire damage and “weather modification” to explain the winds. The fact that Dr. Robert Malone conducted an interview with two people claiming this garbage brought him down significantly in my opinion of him.
I heard in a news report that the ATF is or has been sent there although there is a strong incentive for the Dems in DC and Hawaii to claim this was arson rather than incompetent government not requiring buried power lines or concrete power poles instead of wood.
Ed Dowd Updates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On The Wild Fires In Maui (August 14, 2023)
https://rumble.com/v37nh0m-ed-dowd-updates-robert-f.-kennedy-jr.-on-the-wild-fires-in-maui-august-14-2.html
I suspect Ed Dowd was referring to this:
Officials suspect someone is setting fires all over Maui
May 12, 2022
HONOLULU (KHON2) — Officials said fires were located all over the island of Maui in different regions.
“Fire and police suspect someone is intentionally setting them,” said Maui Mayor Michael Victorino.
According to officials, the incident happened between the hours of 1 p.m. and 2:30 p.m. on Thursday, May 12.
MFD said they responded to a total of seven brush fire calls in Central Maui.
Sure, the power lines were a part, but WHO kept resetting the breakers that kept get tripped OFFF?
If you focused on managing your state, instead of pushing your stupid “green” agenda, people wouldn’t have roasted alive. That’s the truth of the thing.
In his defense, he is not native to the state and was born on the East Coast 🙂
“And right now, we’re working obviously with the FBI..” Why would it be obvious? He says that to throw responsibility like he’s doing everything possible to do whatever anyone would think he should do. He’s a weasel. But if it is of ‘nefarious constructs,” the FBI would be the first one to call.😉
That’s (U) code for “The FBI has detained the children sent home from school and the fresh influx of adrenochrome and child sex slaves is on it’s way.”
Was there that much fuel in this tropical resort town on the ocean to cause an blow-torch inferno for several days!? What happened to the sprinkler systems? Water wasn’t released to put the fire out? Generators and pumps cannot use seas water in such an emergency? The high winds came outta nowhere unexpectedly?
Starting to sound like gross negligence. But Hawaii is a Deep Blue state, so corruption and negligence of government agencies are to be expected. In many ways, this was evolution. The fix is obviously higher taxes, more government unions, more government control – that’s what Deep Blue States do.
It is NOT gross negligence, that is what they would prefer you to think.
It was precision planned with malicious and murderous intent.
I have heard that a significant data source for their missing persons claim is people not answering their cell phones. It went from 1300 to 1000 as soon as some cell phone service was restored in the area.
Can’t be. They already set precedent with 2000 mules that there is no cell phone ability to track or trace people let alone determine where they are, let alone within six (6) feet.
Unless the narrative is needed to round people up for a political hit job and tyranny with a fraudulent government under Joe Biden 0bama.
So all those middle class residents are gone and that land is just sitting there at bargain basement prices, sort of like East Palestine , Ohio. Huh, funny the similarities. Oh well, it’s just a coincidence. I’m sure.
I hate to say it, but I had a similar but more basic thought, ‘why are all those people so poor that they need services, I thought everyone living in such a well known quaint cute beach town was rich!’
We know Democrats get extra pts for erasing history, but to free up coastal land for some yet unnamed huge global developers, and I think there’s a harbor there too, woo hoo!
Should be interesting to see which developers swoop in.
Which banks swoop in. BTW two of the major shareholders in Hawai’ian Electric are Vanguard &BlackRock. Who is in these two?
I lived in Hawaii for 15 years and am married to a Hawaiian. There are two classes in Hawaii; the have and the have nots. The haves need the have nots to be dependent on them so they keep them in control by keeping them trapped in welfare. It is a Dependency Mindset from cradle to the grave.
This is what I concluded based on the fact they are all Democrats. They are so dependent they don’t seem to be able to think for themselves.
Send kids home with no parents? Who the heck would do that? Also, I sure would have found a way to get out of there…why did they not walk down to the ocean? And wade away from the fire. It’s like they just couldn’t think.
In colder climates, like Maine, people have to be able to think and take care of themselves to be able to survive. In a climate like Hawaii, it is too easy to survive due to pleasant weather so they have become incapable of taking care of themselves.
People considered ‘native Hawaiian’ and I don’t know the criteria, but I do know that they can own land at much cheaper amounts and for longer periods than non Hawaiian.
Some of the homes directly behind the stores near Front Street may be considered middle class, they really are lower middle to low shacks. People rent garages to live in.
This is not true. Anyone can own as much land as they can buy in Hawaii regardless of their race. My wife and I bought 8 acres of land on the Big Island and neither of us is “Native Hawaiian”. Our race was never brought up when we bought the property.
What the local Counties do do for the locals is keep the property taxes low. This way no one is forced off their land because they don’t have the money to pay these taxes, but this is true for everyone. The County also makes it easy to qualify for an AG exemption to lower your property taxes even more. Run a couple of cattle or even chickens on your land and you qualify. No one ever comes around to check.
Land is sold either as 99 year leasehold or fee simple (outright sale) without any restrictions concerning race.
https://dhhl.hawaii.gov/applications/applying-for-hawaiian-home-lands/
Pepeekeo, This is what I am referring to. I do believe Hawaiians can benefit from this. I did not talk about race, Pepeekeo. To me it’s just respecting the origin of a people. I’ve always been ok with this.
I didn’t say you cannot purchase land if you are not Hawaiian. I’ve visited Hawaii for over 20 years, both Maui and Big Island. The places I stay are owned by non Hawaiians.
It is very controversial. The federal Hawaiian Homes Commission Act was enacted in 1921, and was modeled after the Homestead Act, except that there is no provision for homesteaders to get fee simple title. But the act defines “native Hawaiian” as 50% blood quantum, resulting in class of 50%ers compared to other Hawaiians where there is a “one drop” quantum.
Hawaiian Homelands were taken from the so-called “Crown lands” (when land titles were created in the 1850s, approx 1/3 of all land was designated “government lands” subject to the authority of the king/queen). During annexation the Republic ceded the Crown lands to the US in perpetuity. It was from these “ceded lands” that the homelands were obtained. In the Hawaii Admission Act, the remaining ceded lands were given to the state as a public trust with five stated beneficiaries, one being the “one drop” Hawaiians. The 1979 constitution created a state entity “Office of Hawaiian Affairs” to administer funds allocated from the sale or lease of the ceded lands. So you have on one hand the Hawaiian Homelands and on the other OHA/ceded land revenue.
Separately in the 1850s the King personally was granted title to much of the land. Through inheritance that land went to Princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop. On her death she bequeathed the land to a trust for education of orphans and Hawaiians (some went also to certain individuals, in particular her husband’s partner Sam Damon, subject of ther fictionalized movie “The Descendants” ). At the time there were a number of these trusts established by the ruling ali’i. Complaints that land was being sold too cheaply led the Bishop Estate to generally adopt a policy of not selling the land. During the first real estate boom in the 60s the idea has formed to make residential housing cheaper by building on leasehold tenancy lots. That was consistent with Bishop Estate desire to retain the fee interest. That sort of worked until the leases came close to running out, as no lender would lend against a short lease. Uproar led to eminent domain condemnation threat and ushered in “leasehold conversion” where the improvements (house/condo) owner could buy the fee interest. By 2023, that pretty much has all been resolved, at least for residential.
Wait, I am confused. Won’t global warming and the rise of oceans put most of everything that burned under water by November 2024 ? If not sooner.
And build their copy cat type hotel buildings chosen from an architects ‘catalog’ of buildings and golf courses.
They did that to Myrtle Beach…its been so long but I wonder if there was a hurricane landfall before that?