Everything about the Maui fire is sketchy. It was sketchy when it happened. It is sketchy in the aftermath, and it remains sketchy in the recovery stage. The FBI, EPA and FEMA have essentially locked down the island, and there are reports of people being evicted who did not perish and did not lose their homes.
I’m not sure if the issues are related to systemically gross incompetence, nefarious constructs, a blue state with poor systems and weak leaders, or a combination of all the above. However, what is abundantly clear is that the people of Maui are victims of more than just a massive wildfire.
Hawaii Gov. Josh Green appears on “Face the Nation” to tell Margareet Brennan that the failure of the now-resigned Maui Emergency Management Agency Administrator was “utterly unsatisfactory, to the world.” “Of course, as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off,” Green said. The governor also stated there are more than 1,000 people still missing and many of them are children. He blames global warming. WATCH:
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Hawaii’s Governor Joshua Green in Honolulu. Good morning. Thank you for getting up so early, and I’m so sorry for what is going on in your state.
GOV. JOSH GREEN: Thank you, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, can you tell us how many are still unaccounted for, and how long will it take to identify remains?
GOV. GREEN: More than 1000 are unaccounted for, about 1050. It will take several weeks, still, some of the challenges are going to be extraordinary. As you reported, 85% of the- of the land of the impact zone has been covered now by what amounts to an army of search and rescue teams and 41 dogs. So 85% of the land has been covered. Now we go into the larger buildings, which require peeling back some of the floors and structures. That last 15% could take weeks. We do have extreme concerns that because of the temperature of the fire, the remains of those who have died, in some cases, may be impossible to recover meaningfully. So, there are going to be people that are lost forever. And right now, we’re working obviously with the FBI and everyone on the ground to make sure that we do what we can to assess who’s missing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is hard to hear, Governor. I know a local Maui official said a large number of the dead may have actually been children who were left home that day because schools were closed, many of them alone or with their grandparents. Is that the case?
GOV. GREEN: That is possible. And that’s-that’s what we’re sharing here internally, that it’s possible that there will be many children. This is the largest catastrophe and disaster that’s ever-hit Maui, probably that’s ever-hit Hawaii outside of wartime events. So, we just thank everyone in the world for reaching out and supporting us through all of the, you know, the ways that they can. Right now, we are trying to make sure everyone is sheltered, and we begin to get all the federal resources we can to make life in some way livable for the survivors. That’s where we are at the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When will the surviving children of West Maui be able to return to school? What do they need?
GOV. GREEN: In some cases, they’re returning later this week. Children can go to any school that’s in the region or where they are. We have six hotels that are basically full of families and their children that have survived. We also are doing distance learning. A lot of that was implemented during the COVID pandemic. There are just so many things to share. King Kamehameha Elementary School in Lahaina is burned to the ground. I mean, it’s totally gone. It used to host 650 children, some of those children have passed. Others will, of course, go to neighboring schools. You have to remember this is a very rural part of Hawaii. And that’s one of the challenges. So, schools are far apart. We’ve authorized other means of transportation, you know, vans and things to help families get farther distances to school.
MARGARET BRENNAN: As-as we’ve been discussing, there are now a lot of questions about all of the policies and procedures. You know, the National Weather Service had issued a Fire Watch for your state August 6, a few days before the fire hit. With the siren system, you said to CNN on Monday and again on Tuesday that you believe some of the sirens were broken. When did you learn they weren’t fully functional?
GOV. GREEN: We assess every siren across the state on the first of the month. And then we ask people to update them and fix them to their abilities. You know, I, of course, I as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off. The challenge that you’ve heard, and it’s not to excuse or explain anything. The challenge has been that historically, those sirens are used for tsunamis. That’s when I came to Hawaii 23 years ago was told when I was living down near the shore. So, it’s usually tsunamis and hurricanes. For perspective, we’ve had six fire emergencies this August, we had six fire emergencies between 1953 and 2003. That’s how- how fast things are changing. I know that there is debate out there whether we should be talking about climate change or not. Well, let’s be real world, climate change is here we are in the midst of it with a hotter planet, and fiercer storms. And you asked the question, I’m coming back to it right now. Do I wish those sirens went off? Of course, I do. And I think that the answer that the- the emergency administrator for Maui, who has resigned, said was, of course, utterly unsatisfactory to the world. But it is the case that- that we’ve historically not used those kinds of warnings or fires.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I understand, and I know that you are conducting a review, but given that your state is experiencing a drought, and you’re in hurricane season, can you say whether other Hawaiian towns are as vulnerable as Lahaina was?
GOV. GREEN: We worry about a lot of our state, Waikoloa on the Big Island, which was experiencing a fire at the same time and required evacuations. We’re worried about them. We worry about all of our state. Some of the state, which is denser and more urban, like Waikiki, has a lot more water and a lot more firefighters, a lot more support. Oahu has three quarters of the population of the state. But we’ve had, although it’s not been reported in the press, we’ve had multiple small fires, some on Oahu, some on Big Island, of course, more on Maui, even in the days since the fire. And the firefighters, I want to thank them. They’ve been heroic in this period of time. They’ve just been constantly working, and everyone has stepped up. But yes, we’re worried, and we have done all that we can at the moment to continue to warn people that this is a season of fire and everyone, of course, doesn’t need more reminding because of what happened in Lahaina.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There has been scrutiny of the largest utility, Hawaiian Electric, because there were images, I know you know this, of power lines, possibly starting fires. Last year, that company had proposed an upgrade of the grid with Lahaina as a priority area and suggested a rate hike to do that. Do you know why that didn’t happen and if that contributed?
GOV. GREEN: I don’t know personally whether or not the- the power lines were the- the primary reason the fire occurred. That’s why I asked for a comprehensive review, I think two days into this, which is very atypical. Normally, these kinds of investigations come months or-or more later. But we have to ask that question, we have to ask the question on every level of how any one city, county, state could have done better and the private sector. This is- this is the world that we live in now. In this case, and I’ve seen footage of it from some of the survivors, I’ve seen footage of how it looked during the fire and how things were exploding and what the fierce winds looked like. They were 80 miles per hour gusting and the fire, I’m now told, was as high as 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. It just destroyed everything. It’s not to excuse anything else from any company. It’s just to explain what the world should prepare for, and I humbly asked all of the cities and states to spend that money now to prevent disasters like we are seeing here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So just to be clear, when you’re talking about global warming, are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?
GOV. GREEN: Yes, it did. There’s always going to be incredible things that people do to save lives, from the firefighters, from citizens. And there’s always going to be decisions that are made that I’m sure aren’t perfect in the moment. And- but when you have fire that move more than a mile a minute, and what happened I’m told by some of the survivors, they were at the initial fire. It was put out sometime late in the afternoon in Lahaina, and then the firefighters had to go to three other fires that had started because of the conditions. When they left the fire started up again. And then when the storm winds from Dora, which were that strong, swept it out, it just destroyed everything. So, there’s no excuses to ever be made. But there are finite- there are finite resources sometimes in the moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Governor, we’re watching, the country’s watching, good luck and thank you for your time.
GOV. GREEN: Thank you for your love and support. We appreciate it.
Everything that I have seen so far point to this being an intentional act. It would not surprise me if people are also being evicted from their homes.
Just like Katrina.
The US Navy and Coast Guard Fleet is 100 miles away at Pearl Harbor with no shortage of firefighting ships and equipment. They could have been to Maui in 4 hours then used seawater with the ships pumps to battle the blaze!
Why weren’t they used?
Could well be that no one in this regime… or even currently in top echelons of the Navy/Coast Guard… thought of it. We really do have the worst & dimmest at the levers of power now.
The government being light bearers mean undercover guys with torches and gas cans….
Not likely. I’m sure *someone* in the Navy knew they could assist.
The “failure” was deliberate.
Likely the Commanders had a plan but they couldn’t get the generals or admirals to make a decision.
Because the PTB wanted it to butn. And they want the residents dead, dead, dead. So, no water, no exit… lockdown and fry.
Probably because it would take hours to get ships moving, because of bureaucrats and inertia, and by that time the damage was done.
If we had a nuclear attack on this country, the military would still be debating the proper response days later while in the bomb shelters and most of the country was dying or dead.
We have become Atlas Shrugged. A few at the top are stealing the country blind while the rest are mired in incompetence and procedures and propaganda.
What a mess.
They were not ordered to do so. Same way that the Cedar Fire in San Diego 2003 grew overnight when US Forest service helicopters were ordered to leave.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-nov-08-me-sandiego8-story.html
No doubt about it . The definition of evil.
I am with the cat! They needed a fall guy and got one. People on Maui are not buying this lone resignation. Always first listen to the survivors—-FIRST!
More: https://t.me/realKarliBonne/188377
These are the same incompetent people who are in charge of the US Proxy War against Russia!
Not incompetence, intention.
Both
Sundance, found this at Ann Barnhardt’s page. You should watch it, it’s good.
Contrast with media coverage and style.
Ann: “Didn’t expect this. Two young Hawaiian lads fled with their mother and documented everything. It ends with them standing in the ocean, chest deep, with their shirts over their intakes (which is absolutely what one should do in a fire situation – particulate smoke is huge).
These two very young men are the rarest of things today among their cohort: they are ADMIRABLE.
Well done, lads. I hope and pray this act of evil proves to be a pivot point, and perhaps even “the making of the man” in earthly terms. So many great men are forged in the fire of disaster and/or war, and this event was clearly both.
Prayers for Noah, Milo, their Mom, and all Hawaiians of good will (bonae voluntátis).”
Mick Fleetwood’s take. His 2-story restaurant was waterfront on Front Street, just across the street from where that family and others jumped into the ocean
I have spent literally $thousands of dollars at Fleetwoods. I’ve dined on the roof deck and watched Mick play with a Blues band … live … in his upstairs bar and club … literally 10 ft from the drum kit. Mick is a right proper haole… who has adopted the islands as his own in the same manner of Todd Rundgren and countless other super successful musicians who have made the islands their home. And Mick’s take at the end … when he says he will use his fame and notoriety to keep this recovery front and center in peoples minds is the absolute PERFECT response to this horrifying disaster.
I look forward to the day when I can spend more $thousands at Fleetwoods … although my drinking days have slowed quite a bit. It’ll have to be dinner and a show … sparkling water please 🤗
Thank you so much for posting that, Taq. Just heartbreaking stuff but so glad to hear facts from folks actually on the ground.
Well, that’s the first pictures or video I’ve seen of fire trucks … but they’re all just driving somewhere with their sirens on? And if they’re going to fight the fire … they’re jussssssst a little late!! The fires are raging. Where have they been!? Waiting for mahalo farmers to “approve” water use to fight the firestorm?? The entire scenario still looks really … WRONG
Amen Taq
They have a gofundme for Noah & family. 👍🏻🙏
Thank you for sharing. I watched the whole thing.
There’s another very real and sobering interview with an old man named “Fish” who spoke his truth. He described what he saw as enemy action. They’ve got stop lying to us, he said. It’s on YouTube under the title “Shocking Eyewitness of Lahaina Maui Fire Front Street Police Blocked Off Exits.” HawaiiRealEstate site. Worth your time.
Don’t let the “donations” keep you from hearing what Fish has to say. It’s epic.
Here’s what I found, Barb:
https://article.wn.com/view/2023/08/21/Local_Explains_Police_Were_Blocking_Exits_Trapping_People_in/
The mayor reminds me of Flip Wilson’s character Geraldine that always said “the devil made me do it”. The substitute “devil” with “climate change” and you arrive at the same clowning nonsensical conclusion.
He came across as the typical liberal nincompoop….How do these people get elected???
Fraud
By voter fraud.
To You, O Lord,
we humbly entrust these children,
so precious in Your sight.
Take them into Your arms
and welcome them into paradise,
where there will be no sorrow,
no weeping nor pain,
but the fullness of peace and joy
with Your Son and the Holy Spirit
forever and ever.
Amen.
That’s really sweet, and I gave you a thumbs up … but I get ANGRY at the thought of those terribly frightened children literally choking to death on smoke until they pass out … and then consumed by fire. Who knows if some of them woke up when they started to burn. If this turns out to be another Waco where a leftist government incinerated the children to save the children … I don’t know … I’m gonna completely LOSE IT.
Not sweet. A real plea to heaven. But I share your anger. The globalist shills running Hawaii basically committed a genocide against the native peoples and their children–for money. We are fighting a spiritual battle.
Amen joe
And Biden has the audacity to say “No comment”, about hundreds of dead children.
A black and evil soul.
DD
Biden obviously had not yet been briefed on the facts; probably due to the fact that both White House officials and Hawaiian authorities were still structuring their alibis, i.e., the very hard work of adapting, altering, or omitting facts to fit a political narrative.
Given what we’ve seen of the odd complexity of these events, the important narrative-engineering must have taken a long time to complete. In any event, Biden certainly gave the impression of being emotionally detached from the suffering, yet in my opinion, it was more a function of his annoyance at the delay in polishing the fabricated narrative that his aids made him endure.
For Biden, creating false narratives is an easy matter. One can almost hear him on a phone conversation saying, ” C’mon man! What’s the delay? It’s simple! It’s all climate change. You’re making it too complicated. Yes, I know there were children lost, and we have to be sensitive about that. But we’ll put the blame on Republicans for refusing to Build Back Better.!”
Relax … Joes enjoying the beautiful scenery and clear blue water of Lake Tahoe. He’s probably partying like Michael Corleone … with his gangster Green New Deal “associates”. They’re probably all scheduled to kiss his ring.
Pop goes the weasel …
My goodness that is powerful in its accuracy!
DD
It struck me the same, Dan. Says it all. No words needed.
“Of course, as a person, as a father, as a doctor, I wish all the sirens went off,” Green said.
What about as the Governor of Hawaii?
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The warning signal for TSUNAMI/HURRICANE cannot be distinguished from another distinct warning sound for ‘other’?
Did the ‘nuclear warning’ there not too long ago have yet another ‘type’ of warning signal than this one and only ‘warning sound’?
He just had to get that in…I’m a doctor!
Irrelevant and narcissistic.
In other words out of his depth and arrogant to boot, a quality I have found too many doctors possess.
And heads of grant agencies and many members of academia.
When there’s a lack of water on an island to fight a fire, I think incompetence is right up there with malice. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/green_policies_and_government_incompetence_led_to_the_tragedy_of_the_maui_fire.html
The Leftist Death Cult demands that water be “revered” and never used to benefit the evil human virus — which the WEF hopes will finally be eradicated by 2030 … to make everybody “happy.”
Then, what about seawater which surrounds them?
That would require thought. This lot is all about feeling. The latter tends to interfere with the former.
clear ether
eon
Requires training and practice in drafting water for firefighting. Probably additional challenges with salt water.
https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/fire-apparatus/articles/fire-apparatus-pumping-static-water-sources-WNQH1uGmAFHI0XIo/
Pearl Harbor?
Much like flights for Benghazi? Called back, refused to respond?
This took a lot of time that much could have been done.
But like the SARS CoV-2 Planneddemic everything that was normally done for all preparedness and actions was removed and done in complete opposite methods creating even more death and destruction.
All planned and performed as designed.
Remember that this was a multi-for.
Yes.
A few years there were some kids who set a dead tree on fire near a river where I live. To put it out the fire department pumped river water since there were no fire hydrants to access.
Yes, the ocean is salt water, but it is an endless supply and I find it hard to believe it could not be utilized.
Of course there is in a planned mass casualty event.
“However, what is abundantly clear is that the people of Maui are victims of more than just a massive wildfire.”
The anti-meritocracy Competency Crisis is real, will only get worse, and we’re gonna need a lot MOAR body bags before all is said and done.
To paraphrase Admiral Josh Painter: “These a-holes are out-of-control. They’re out-of-control, and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
Heaven Bless Hawaii. 🙏
😢😡
I do not think this was intentional, as video is circulating showing downed power lines sparking and starting a fire. In winds from a neighboring hurricane it doesn’t take much to turn a simple ignition of dry woodlands into a raging wildfire. The intensity of the fire also started its own vortex effect which made it much worse.
But…clearly the incompetence of bureaucrats and leftists is making this an even greater disaster. Between a desire to overrule and dictate every move, cover up bad practices as CYA for authorities, and put wrapping paper over a hideous disaster, this is a s#*+ show of massive proportions.
the intentional part is not releasing the water to the hydrants until 4 hours after the fire was reported started. in a sane world he would have already been charged with voluntary manslaughter
voluntary mass homicide of some slighty lesser intent (degree) than 1st degree murder
Did Nero Really Fiddle as Rome Burned?
Actually, he organized firefighting efforts. After it was all over, he composed an ode to the dead. That’s where the “fiddled while Rome burned” myth got started. He also pushed through very strict fire codes for new construction. The “classical Rome” we think of was largely Nero’s doing; before his time, most structures in the city were wood, not stone.
The word “curfew” is Latin in origin; it was the time everybody was supposed to extinguish or at least bank household fires, like kitchen ovens, for overnight to avoid events like the Rome fire, or the Great Fire of London in 1666. Not to mention the Chicago Fire of 1871.
Rome was yet another example of a city which did not have an actual fire department. But don’t blame them too much; when NYC was hit by the arson fires associated with the Civil War draft riots (13-14 July 1863) all they had wee private “fire-fighting companies”. Which only answered fire calls from subscribers. Yes, factories and etc. paid a monthly fee for fire protection.
Modern city or county fire departments are a comparatively recent idea.
clear ether
eon
Added to this, greed. The wealthy wanting to buy up for themselves what has been destroyed, while chaos still ensues.
There was a video that was complaining that somehow the rich waterfront properties were spared or saved. It had burned out areas that were clearly demarcated by roads.
To be fair, while some waterfront property was spared, much of the property on the green side of the road was burned out. But it wasn’t just the sea side where the road demarcated what was leveled and black from what wasn’t. The inland side looked unburned. And a huge rectangle of black sat between.
Like you, I had heard about wind knocking down power lines, sparks starting fires and wind driving the fire down the mountain. I would expect to see a burn mark starting at the power lines and widening as it spread. That video showed no such thing. Maybe it wasn’t of interest to someone complaining that shore line residences were spared. But on the other side of the roads were burned out rectangles. No starter fire visible. No gradually widening burn mark, crossing roads and getting wider.
Maybe the far land was burned but that couldn’t be seen on the video. Maybe the videographer didn’t care to show us that side of the fire. But entire blocks burned black, cleanly demarcated by roads is highly suspicious.
And there is a lot of highly suspicious going on. No warning. Denial of water to fight fires. Police trapping people in the burn area. Now evicting people whose houses were not burned.
If the government didn’t actually do it, they have surely and repeatedly made it much much worse than it should have been and they are continuing in that vein.
This was a well planned in advance attack on the citizens of Hawaii .
Way too many things defy logic . If anybody thinks this event is just too evil to be intentional think again . We have governments around the world purposely lying and intentionally killing off it’s citizens including young children with a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine.
Dryed out sugar cane stalks in abandoned sugar plantations make up half of Maui.
When exits are blocked off and lines of cars are blocked from getting out, that is just plain evil.
Maui unfortunately, has agenda driven ideologues running the island. Their ridiculous policies, were a detriment to the citizens. The local government’s response during the recent destructive fires, that caused so many deaths, bordered on the criminal side.
-Maui’s emergency manager had zero experience managing emergencies. He has a degree in political science and “law experience,” whatever that means. He also served as chief as staff to a former mayor.
He was hired over 40 other applicants.
-The official responsible for releasing water resources to the fight the fire wasted almost an entire day meandering through red tape before deciding, too late, the water could be used.
-The electric company failed to cut power despite knowing that high winds and drought conditions created extreme risk of a downed line igniting a wildfire. A downed lined now appears to have been the source of ignition.
Such negligence and lack of action is a pole vault over the border of criminality.
Being former grid operator on the western grid, it was astonishing to see lines trip and reclose over and over. If a line trips, it’s out…. Unless you’re on Maui.
So much stinks 😷
This is much like my continuing question of WHO unlocked and opened the magnetically sealed chamber doors to Congress.
Someone had to do it.
Someone else had to order that someone to do it.
Damn this pusillanimous twit.
Utterly despise these ideological incompetents that can’t culture competence or even value it.
Tap dancing on not yet dug graves; pointless perishing played for political profiteering.
It is nefarious. It is a long game of regulatory taking. I recognize the coordinated pattern of ignoring infrastructure, “green investments”, waiting for the property destruction, and guilded paths to blame climate change. . … the complicit media. I’ve looked politicians, bureaucrats, engineers and contractors in they eye with the evidence as they smirk. They are souless.
It’s like they flipped a switch and, as their plandemic wanes, the “natural” disasters are ramped up under the guise of climate change. Of course, there are still ‘poison death shots’ available for anyone stupid enough to take injections of any kind from these murderous thugs.
The elites want Hawaii. It’s safe, far away from nuclear fallout, it’s incredibly profitable land, there’s enough high elevation and the climate is divine.
“Never waste a crisis.” Never waste an opportunity to create one.
Great for the wealthy..
We have a Canadian friend that bought a dump of a house on the “ Big Island” 5/6 years ago. Renovated and has on paper made a significant profit.
The friend lives there now and was getting “ big bucks” renting rooms out.
Some poor individuals were paying $1500.00 a month for a 500 sqft space in a less than desirable neighborhood.
Food we are told is pricey..
Cheers!
Correct , some have claimed the WEF is not trying to hide that this was what they had planned and it was intentional.
I’m not buying this was an accident, no way .
Kind of like the World Trade Center collapse, including Building 7, did not occur in a natural way? These calamities all seem to occur in a controlled, Agenda 21 New/ One World Order kind of way.
The Book of Revelation lays it all out clear as day. It’s Lucifer’s go-to primer if anyone cares to know..
Larry Silverstein, developer of the new World Trade Center, has a mansion on the beach in Lahaina. It was untouched by fire, although every surrounding house was complete ash.
Hubby has a friend who went with his family to Maui right before the fires. We have not heard from him. Unfortunately, he is very bad at keeping his phone charged.
Would imagine there are more than several unaccounted for tourists from hotels, and airbnbs, having Ubered or used rental cars who drove into Lahaina for breakfast, lunch, shopping and sight seeing? Hope your husbands friend and family are safe.
I spent an afternoon in Lahaina on my honeymoon many moons ago. Stayed right there on Kaanapali beach. I’ve also spent date nights at Windows of the World restaurant in the WTC.
In fact, it looks like FauXI the witch doctor may lay claim to *both* my husbands with his murderous medicine, and now he’s after our children.
I SEE them now. It’s ON. Spoiler alert: GOD wins.
“MARGARET BRENNAN: When will the surviving children of West Maui be able to return to school? What do they need?”
Nice defection from the horror of what happened. I think thats the LAST thing on these peoples minds, twit.
“MARGARET BRENNAN: So just to be clear, when you’re talking about global warming, are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?”
Lets feed the narrative, and help provide the excuse.
The MSM protecting the communists is appalling to say the least. Their evil has no boundaries.
3 minute clip from Nefarious covers it
The MSM and communists are one and the same. Not a hair’s breadth between
Climate change? Well, yeah, but it’s not human activity that caused the weird weather this year. Goozle “Hunga Tonga underwater volcano.”
The largest underwater volcanic eruption in history was so massive it launched water vapor into space for thge first time in history and warmed the earth’s temperature by 1.5 degrees celsius. And there is nothing we can do about it. Welcome to Earth.
https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-largest-underwater-volcano-woke-up-and-is-about-to-crack-open-earth#:~:text=On%20January%2015%20of%20last,time%20by%20an%20earthly%20volcano.
https://eos.org/articles/tonga-eruption-may-temporarily-push-earth-closer-to-1-5c-of-warming
LOL!
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVAHHHHH!!!!
A volcano launches it’s water into space.
Because, only this author and it’s people know what has happened in the time of Earth’s span.
Remember to watch out for weasel words like may, could, perhaps, seems, etc.
This just seems like a nice big NARRATIVE push of Global BOILING!!! They do love fear.
“He blames global warming.”
These clowns are so caught up in their Marxist religion, it’s doubtful 75% of the facts will become known.
How many of them will willingly ignore facts or whitewash them because it might make their religion look bad? Or foolish?
Was it global warming that caused one of the Marxists to deny releasing water?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/two-princeton-mit-scientists-say-epa-climate-regulations-based-on-a-hoax-5460699?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2023-08-14&src_cmp=mb-2023-08-14&utm_medium=email&est=XmC24zl931l3haCDP3wjvR9i9eDYbdQEca2Cj7dL3xFGGZVdQ5oICNw75cSmn33nig%3D%3D
TWO well known MIT scientists say EPA climate regulations based on a “hoax.”
Very good article about the hoax climate change that everyone needs to read and share!
Global warming my a$$. Insanity runs deep in the political establishment. Especially on the islands of Hawaii.
I can’t watch this. I have listened/read at least four people who have their own take on this fire. Lt/ and We Know, Dr. Robert Malone (geoengineering re weather), Zero Hedge, etc.
This Guvner is in on it all. He wants that land for his own to make into a fifteen minute city full of high rises. There is no doubt.
He is supposed to be IN CHARGE of the HAWAIIN ISLANDS. And yet I am sure he will NEVER take ANY RESPONSIBILTY. o his minions will resign and take the blame.
And when all this proves out I want Margaret Brennan to publicly pound sand.
My dear friend (whose Mother was born in Hawaii/Maui) has cousin’s there. One cousin still has his life but lost everything in this fire. They are being HARASSED by robo-callers who want to buy their land. I call them robo-callers because I want to, perhaps naively, belief in the goodness in spirit, at the very least, of humans.
And oh, Oprah Winfrey purchased 387 (?) acres there? Is that where the 1,000 kids went? You know, she might be running out of fresh kid meat for her beauty products. NOT A ONE will question this latest disappearance. Reminds me of Haiti and the Clintons. Always needing to harvest “fresh” stuff, as the kids they stole before for their fetishes are either dead or past their prime.
Obviously, I am way beyond being a suspicious cat. I am an angry one.
I don’t want to know what evil dwells in these vultures (sorry vultures – the bird),
Also, Greg Hunter as USAWATCHDOG>COM
The producers of Sound of Freedom I think are coming out with a child trafficking film based in Haiti. Or maybe Mel Gibson. I res somewhere today. I went to Haiti years ago. Port o Prince was pretty poor. But the people were friendly. I stayed in the mountains in a condo.
Thank you Hopinow. Nothing wrong with staying in condo, 🙂
When I read that part about missing children that was the FIRST thing I thought of. Pedophiles are running the world.
Tank you Joy Galt. Great minds think alike. Or something like that.
Thank
One day, either in this, or the afterlife, they will hang for their ‘harvest’.
Agree GreyRockMan. I am personally hoping for “Instant Karma.”
I officially damn that guv to hell for blaming climate change.
Despicable.
Stock answer. If they keep sequestering CO2 we are headed to a brown planet.
Carbon is life.
Sequestering it, along with Oxygen, is evil.
People are imagining so many ways to get rich of the fraud they don’t care about the consequences.
Livin’ la vida lucre.
Almost half of Maui is an abandoned sugar cane plantation which was never plowed under or cleared. The sugar cane stalks dried and burned like a tinderbox! That’s what caused the fire not climate change!
Very interesting….sugar cane plantation…
In Napa the Tubbs fire was caused by a downed power line. The fire took off overnight and burned out of control within minutes. And we are prepared to fight fires in California.
I used to live there many years ago. A lot of the can plantation land was never totally cleared.
They’ve admitted also to an “arson” problem for years. Just can’t catch all those pesky arsonists.
BS meter off the charts since the beginning, Robbing the Biden crime family of the news cycle one week at a time
Green – a pathetic excuse for a governor – should immediately resign along with any government official with responsibility for this gross incompetence (at best). This is a human catastrophe of epic proportions being grotesquely played down by the Fake News.
One of the biggest crises facing our world is green agenda tyranny.
You’re right about that. And more is coming. Just like they amplified the plandemic, they will shout “Climate emergency!” with every weather event.
Can’t have their green new deal without a climate emergency! Remember these globalists can ‘create’ weather to suit their purposes!
Child sex trafficking just got a huge inventory
The Steelers are a Hawaiian team? (helmet in the background)
Sure is strange how the fires raged through expensive real estate whose owners were refusing to sell to multinational corporations and “elites” like Oprah Winfrey for her personal view of the ocean. Also, sure is strange how the FBI is involved and news stories seem to be silenced and questions left unanswered.
Climate change – bah, humbug!
Never doubt how evil the WEF and Biden clan is . They want people to believe it was accidental but intelligent people know better.
The Maui Police Chief had his training at the FBI Academy – I guess that training enabled him to not help solve the case of the shooting in Las Vegas when he was the Incident Commander on that case.
Wasn’t he experienced with working with the fbLIE and fraudulent government in Vegas a few years ago?
Someone needs to investigate and FOIA Biden/Trudeau/China for all the weather geo engineering they are doing to sell the masses that there is climate change.
They are also using weather before/during elections and to affect individual states/counties.
What is China really using their large balloons for? How often are they off our coasts to help their Biden/Trudeau puppets?
Voila! Instant 15 Minute City cite!
To say these demons are evil is being far too generous and kind.
Tulsi Gabbard would be wise to step in now and take these assholes to the woodshed.
It would be an excellent time for Tulsi Gabbard to unequivocally denounce the WEF and any idea of turning Maui into a WEF “smart city”.
She actually was surveying the damage – vid was taken down, hopefully re-posted.
That GOVERNor is trying to hide and cover up
a lot! Check out how he is covering his hands,
hiding something deeply disturbing.
I can sympathize with the human tragedy of the ordinary people, with the lost children and so many deaths. It is a horror, but the people have put these incompetents in place and 63% voted for an incompetent president in 2020. Voted for Clinton in 2016. Voted for Democrat governors and more Democrat representatives.
They voted for a president who is giving them $700 and considering that largesse. A president who went on vacation to Lake Tahoe while the people of Maui suffer through. But that is the man they wanted.
Imagine still believing that the 2020 election was legit.
Believe it or not there are some people who really think that which is just mind boggling to me .
What’s even worse is they think these Republican Party apparatchiks are any better! It’s time to start thinking outside their little UNiparty boxcar!
We have and they will never forgive US for electing President TRUMP TWICE and the THIRD will be epic!
Hundreds of cars filled with people stopped on Front Street, from the Safeway near Front Street all the way down Front Street past the Chart House (now gone), to the Fire Station – filled with cars filled with people – all those cars which exploded with the people inside as the fire ran along Front Street.
Do the math just on that – more than a 1,000 people, way more!
and a cop was blocking them from departing at one point
Would the cop, blocking the evacuating cars, been given orders to shoot anyone who drove through??
That’s the guy who should be answering questions.
This disturbingly has the same feel as the Vegas shooting.
It even has the same people! The current Maui police chief was the Las Vegas police captain during the Las Vegas massacre. What a coincidence!
Have there been references to Bill Gates owning a home in Maui?
They’re not even hiding it anymore.
Wait.What!?? 85% of the Lahaina burn zone has been searched … but there are still 1,000 people missing !? So they expect to find 1,000 bodies in the last 15% of the burn zone!?
or
The fire was hot enough to completely incinerate 1,000 missing people? Not likely. Screw the “experts” and their “cadaver dogs” Let the parents search their own homes. They know their children … where they would seek shelter. They’ll find the bones.
yes, reports of incineration
Or, and I don’t like saying such things, the children weren’t sent home from school at all.
Check Oprah Winfrey’s estates for the missing children?
Alien Invasion Attack!
That is where this is headed
One man on Maui who was interviewed said that the reason there are so few people looking for family members is that whole families perished. There is no one to look for them. Heartbreaking.
It’s being reported on Real America’s Voice, Shemane’s Faith and Freedom Show that fire may have been started by china using space based directed energy weapons. Witnesses report fire was moving at one mile per second. Fire missed all the rich people, ie, Oprah, Gates and others. If you have RAV’s app check out Shemane’s Aug 19 Show
Oprah property on other side of island, not sure about Gates
Sadly China’s Directed Energy Weapon failed due to Chinese production and cost cutting methods that left it an empty shell with junk parts.
So they had to get JoeBama to do it for them with the tried and proven USA Directed Energy weapon.
Remember that Bill Clinton sold Nukes to China because they couldn’t make them.
Just as Hillary sold yellow cake weapons grade Uranium (UraniumOne) to Russia for Bill’s speaking engagements and fees.
What a total loser. Is there something about political office that attracts dullards galore??? Geez…
Nope. The party machine is attracted to them – they screen candidates carefully for lack of virtue, morality, conscience and critical thinking.
I have been impressed with world leaders who are not western ideologues. They speak several languages, have interesting hobbies and side interests, lifetime accomplishments – in music, sports, poetry, history, design, writing, philosophy, advanced degrees.
It seems that in the US, we don’t elect competent people and don’t look for competence.
They may not be “Western” ideologues, but they are still totalitarian ideologues.
Those leaders don’t seem to be doing a good job, like those in the USA, of anything except tyranny.
Answer, So a fluent well spoken tyrannical dictator as opposed to a dull witted tyrannical dictator … Question, I’ll take the 2A.
I understand the communist elites can’t help themselves from destroying one good thing after another but can you at least make an effort to make these unforgivable and horrific acts believable instead of doing things that always gives them away as being clearly intentional ?
Serial killers are sadists at heart. Lucifer gets his kicks rubbing our noses in our own excretement.
Global warming: is there anything it can’t do?
Prove it’s existence without the lies and fraudulent data of the “Intelligentsia”?
Why is the fbi involved?? To make sure things are covered up?
Correct .
And to capture, contain, and ship off the children for their new lives as sex slaves.
Where you find this fraudulent government, you will find pedophilia and their unconstitutional jackboots known as the Alphabet Agencies (LGB+GOVERNMENTTYRANNYANDCHILDSEXSLAVES) and their victims.
Child trafficking = missing children.
How long until the people of Hawaii demand to be there own, sovereign Kingdom again?!
Ultimately, Governor Joshua Green will be executed for treason.
Any government official who pins anything on being caused by “climate change” will be found to be guilty of treason. They know that there is no climate change caused by carbon dioxide emitted by human activities.
They know that the majority of the fires and extreme weather events are caused by military weapons.
When that truth becomes irrefutable, none of these politicians, journalists and bureaucrats have anywhere to hide.
Maybe it is not too late. Repent and tell the truth now, or your fate is execution by the true government of the USA.
Maggie Haberman – you were specifically called out to repent and you did not. It may not be too late yet.
Not Global warming. It was Greed.
Below is a more in depth explanation than the ankle deep words of Josh Green.
https://pamho.medium.com/why-the-fire-on-maui-happened-the-real-truth-a98a3c523f80
My daughter has an Hawaiian friend
Apparently the schools sent the children home early and of course the sirens didn’t blast and the parents weren’t home
They all were murdered by fire by the politicians lack of common sense and decency.
They had one job to do, protect the people
The children will
Never be found, they were burnt to a crisp, including their bones
It was a funeral pyre
What school district releases children without their parents consent? That’s a new one! Schools these days are like Fort Knox! They don’t just toss little kids out on the street!