REPOST BY REQUEST – We cannot fight our way through the issues until we first realize what lies at the root of the problem.
Barack Obama and Eric Holder did not create a weaponized DOJ and FBI; the institutions were already weaponized by the Patriot Act. What Obama and Holder did was take the preexisting system and retool it, so the weapons of government only targeted one side of the political continuum.
This point is where many people understandably get confused.
Elevator Speech:
(1) The Patriot Act turned the intel surveillance radar from foreign searches for terrorists to domestic searches for terrorists.
(2) Obama/Biden then redefined what is a “terrorist” to include their political opposition.
In the era shortly after 9/11, the DC national security apparatus, instructed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was constructed to preserve continuity of government and simultaneously view all Americans as potential threats. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) were created specifically for this purpose.
After 9/11/01, the electronic surveillance system that was originally created to monitor threats from abroad was retooled to monitor threats inside our country. That is when all of our electronic ‘metadata’ came under federal surveillance.
That inflection point, and the process that followed, was exactly what Edward Snowden tried to point out.
What Barack Obama and Eric Holder did with that new construct was refine the internal targeting mechanisms so that only their political opposition became the target of this new national security system.
The problems we face now as a country are directly an outcome of two very distinct points that were merged by Barack Obama. (1) The post 9/11 monitoring of electronic communication of American citizens; and (2) Obama’s team creating a fine-tuning knob that it focused on the politics of the targets. This is very important to understand as you dig deeper into this research outline.
Washington DC created the modern national security apparatus immediately and hurriedly after 9/11/01. The Department of Homeland Security came along in 2002, and within the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) was formed.
When President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder arrived a few years later, those newly formed institutions were viewed as opportunities to create a very specific national security apparatus that would focus almost exclusively against their political opposition.
The preexisting Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Dept of Justice (DOJ) were then repurposed to become two of the four pillars of the domestic national security apparatus – a domestic surveillance state. However, this new construct would have a targeting mechanism based on political ideology.
The DHS, ODNI, DOJ and FBI became the four pillars of this new institution. Atop these pillars is where you will find the Fourth Branch of Government.
We were not sleeping when this happened, we were wide awake. However, we were stunningly distracted by the economic collapse that was taking place in 2006 and 2007 when the engineers behind Obama started to assemble the design. By the time Obama took office in 2009, we sensed something profound was shifting, but we can only see exactly what shifted in the aftermath. The four pillars were put into place, and a new Fourth Branch of Government was quietly created.
As time passed, and the system operators became familiar with their new tools, technology allowed the tentacles of the system to reach out and touch us. That is when we first started to notice that something very disconcerting was happening. Those four pillars are the root of it, and if we take the time to understand how the Fourth Branch originated, questions about this current state of perpetual angst will start to make sense.
If we take the modern construct, originating at the speed of technological change, we can also see how the oversight or “check/balance” in our system of government became functionally obsolescent.
After many years of granular research about the intelligence apparatus inside our government, in the summer of 2020 I visited Washington DC to ask specific questions. My goal was to go where the influence agents within government actually operate, and to discover the people deep inside the institutions no one elected, and few people pay attention to.
It was during this process when I discovered how information is purposefully put into containment silos; essentially a formal process to block the flow of information between agencies and between the original branches. While frustrating to discover, the silo effect was important because understanding the communication between networks leads to our ability to reconcile conflict between what we perceive and what’s actually taking place.
After days of research and meetings in DC during 2020; amid a town that was serendipitously shut down due to COVID-19; I found a letter slid under the door of my room in a nearly empty hotel with an introduction of sorts. The subsequent discussions were perhaps the most important. After many hours of specific questions and answers on specific examples, I realized why our nation is in this mess. That is when I discovered the fourth and superseding branch of government, the Intelligence Branch.
The Intelligence Branch is an independent functioning branch of government, it is no longer a subsidiary set of agencies within the Executive Branch as most would think. To understand the Intelligence Branch, we need to drop the elementary school civics class lessons about three coequal branches of government and replace that outlook with the modern system that created itself.
…”There are people making decisions inside this little known, unregulated and out-of-control branch of government that impact every facet of our lives”…
The Intelligence Branch functions much like the State Dept, through a unique set of public-private partnerships that support it. Big Tech industry collaboration with intelligence operatives [Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Meta, Instagram, Twitter, etc] is part of that functioning, almost like NGOs. However, the process is much more important than most think. In this problematic perspective of a corrupt system of government, the process is the flaw – not the outcome.
There are people making decisions inside this little known, unregulated and out-of-control branch of government that impact every facet of our lives.
None of the people operating deep inside the Intelligence Branch were elected; and our elected representative House members genuinely do not know how the system works. I assert this position affirmatively because I have talked to House and Senate staffers, including the chiefs of staff for multiple House & Senate committee seats. They are not malicious people; however, they are genuinely clueless of things that happen outside their silo. That is part of the purpose of me explaining it, with examples, in full detail with sunlight.
We begin….
In April of 2016, the FBI launched a counterintelligence operation against presidential candidate Donald Trump. The questioning about that operation is what New York Representative Elise Stefanik cites in March of 2017, approximately 11 months later (First Two Minutes).
Things to note:
♦ Notice how FBI Director James Comey just matter-of-factly explains no one outside the DOJ was informed about the FBI operation. Why? Because that’s just the way things are done. His justification for unilateral operations was “because of the sensitivity of the matter“, totally ignoring any constitutional or regulatory framework for oversight; because, well, quite simply, there isn’t any. The intelligence apparatus inside the DOJ/FBI can, and does, operate based on their own independent determinations of authority.
♦ Notice also how FBI Director Comey shares his perspective that informing the National Security Council (NSC) is the equivalent of notifying the White House. The FBI leadership expressly believe they bear no responsibility to brief the Chief Executive. As long as they tell some unknown, unelected, bureaucratic entity inside the NSC, their unwritten responsibility to inform the top of their institutional silo is complete. If the IC wants to carve out the Oval Office, they simply plant information inside the NSC and, from their perspective, their civic responsibility to follow checks-and-balances is complete. This is an intentional construct.
♦ Notice how Comey obfuscates notification to the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), by avoiding the fact James Clapper was the DNI from outset of the counterintelligence operation throughout the remainder of Obama’s term. When I get deeper into the process, we will understand how the Intelligence Branch has intentionally used the creation of the DNI position (established post 9/11/01) as a method to avoid oversight, not enhance it. Keeping an oblivious doofus like James Clapper in position held strategic value [Doofus Reminder HERE].
That video of James Comey being questioned by Elise Stefanik was the first example given to me by someone who knew the background of everything that was taking place preceding that March 20, 2017, hearing. That FBI reference point is a key to understand how the Intelligence Branch operates with unilateral authority above Congress (legislative branch), above the White House (executive branch), and even above the court system (judicial branch).
Also, watch this short video of James Clapper, because it is likely many readers have forgotten, and likely even more readers have never seen it. Watch closely how then White House national security adviser John Brennan is responding in that video. This is before Brennan became CIA Director, this is when Brennan was helping Barack Obama put the pillars into place. WATCH:
[Sidebar: Every time I post this video it gets scrubbed from YouTube (example), so save it if you ever want to see it again.]
The video of James Clapper highlights how the ODNI position (created with good national security intention) ended up becoming the fulcrum for modern weaponization, and is now an office manipulated by agencies with a vested interest in retaining power. The Intelligence Branch holds power over the ODNI through their influence and partnership with the body that authorizes the power within it, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI).
Factually, the modern intelligence apparatus uses checks and balances in their favor. The checks create silos of proprietary information, classified information, vaults of information that work around oversight issues. The silos, which include the exploitation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court, or FISC) are part of the problem.
Ironically, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence was created in the aftermath of 9/11/01 expressly to eliminate the silos of information which they felt led to a domestic terrorist attack that could have been prevented. The ODNI was created specifically upon the recommendation of the 9/11 commission.
The intent was to create a central hub of intelligence information, inside the Executive Branch, where the CIA, NSA, DoD, DoS, and DIA could deposit their unique intelligence products and a repository would be created so that domestic intelligence operations, like the DOJ and FBI could access them when needed to analyze threats to the U.S. This, they hoped, would ensure the obvious flags missed in the 9/11 attacks would not be missed again.
However, the creation of the DNI office also created an unconstitutional surveillance system of the American people. The DNI office became the tool to take massive amounts of data and use it to target specific Americans. Weaponizing the DNI office for political targeting is now the purpose of the DNI office as it exists.
The illegal and unlawful nature of the surveillance creates a need for careful protection amid the group who operate in the shadows of electronic information and domestic surveillance. You will see how it was critical to install a person uniquely skilled in being an idiot, James Clapper, into that willfully blind role while intelligence operatives worked around the office to assemble the Intelligence Branch of Government.
• The last federal budget that flowed through the traditional budgetary process was signed into law in September of 2007 for fiscal year 2008 by George W. Bush. Every budget since then has been a fragmented process of continuing resolutions and individual spending bills.
Why does this matter? Because many people think defunding the Intelligence Community is a solution; it is not…. at least, not yet. Worse yet, the corrupt divisions deep inside the U.S. intelligence system can now fund themselves from multinational private sector partnerships (banks, corporations and foreign entities).
• When Democrats took over the House of Representatives in January 2007, they took office with a plan. Nancy Pelosi became Speaker, and Democrats controlled the Senate where Harry Reid was Majority Leader. Barack Obama was a junior senator from Illinois.
Pelosi and Reid intentionally did not advance a budget in 2008 (for fiscal year 2009) because their plan included installing Barack Obama (and all that came with him) with an open checkbook made even more lucrative by a worsening financial crisis and a process called baseline budgeting. Baseline budgeting means the prior fiscal year budget is accepted as the starting point for the next year budget. All previous expenditures are baked into the cake within baseline budgeting.
Massive bailouts preceded Obama’s installation due to U.S. economic collapse, and massive bailouts continued after his installation. This is the ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ aspect. TARP (Troubled Asset Recovery Program), auto bailouts (GM), and the massive stimulus spending bill, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA, ie. those shovel ready jobs) were all part of the non-budget spending. The federal reserve assisted with Quantitative Easing (QE1 and QE2) as congress passed various Porkulous spending bills further spending and replacing the formal budget process.
Note: There has never been a budget passed in the normal/traditional process since September of 2007.
• While Obama’s radical ‘transformation‘ was triggered across a broad range of government institutions, simultaneously spending on the U.S. military was cut, but spending on the intelligence apparatus expanded. We were all distracted by Obamacare, and the Republican Party wanted to keep us that way. However, in the background there was a process of transformation taking place that included very specific action by Eric Holder and targeted effort toward the newest executive agency the ODNI.
The people behind Obama, those same people now behind Joe Biden, knew from years of strategic planning that ‘radical transformation’ would require control over specific elements inside the U.S. government. Eric Holder played a key role in his position as U.S. Attorney General in the DOJ.
AG Holder recruited ideologically aligned political operatives who were aware of the larger institutional objectives. One of those objectives was weaponizing the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) a division inside the DOJ that had no inspector general oversight. For most people the DOJ-NSD weaponization surfaced with a hindsight awakening of the DOJ-NSD targeting candidate Donald Trump many years later. However, by then the Holder crew had executed almost eight full years of background work.
• The second larger Obama/Holder objective was control over the FBI. Why was that important? Because the FBI does the domestic investigative work on anyone who needs or holds a security clearance. The removal of security clearances could be used as a filter to further build the internal ideological army they were assembling. Additionally, with new power in the ODNI created as a downstream consequence of the Patriot Act, new protocols for U.S. security clearances were easy to justify.
Carefully selecting fellow ideological travelers was facilitated by this filtration within the security clearance process. How does that issue later manifest? Just look around at how politicized every intelligence agency has become, specifically including the FBI.
• At the exact same time this new background security clearance process was ongoing, again everyone distracted by the fight over Obamacare, inside the Department of State (Secretary Hillary Clinton) a political alignment making room for the next phase was being assembled. Names like Samantha Power, Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton were familiar on television while Lisa Monaco worked as a legal liaison between the Obama White House and Clinton State Department.
Through the Dept of State (DoS) the intelligence apparatus began working on their first steps to align Big Tech with a larger domestic institutional objective. Those of you who remember the “Arab Spring”, some say “Islamist Spring”, will remember it was triggered by Barack Obama’s speech in Cairo – his first foreign trip. The State Department worked with grassroots organizers (mostly Muslim Brotherhood) in Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, Qatar and Libya. Obama leaned heavily on the organizational network of Turkish President Recep Erdogan for contacts and support.
Why does this aspect matter to us? Well, you might remember how much effort the Obama administration put into recruiting Facebook and Twitter as resources for the various mideast rebellions the White House and DoS supported. This was the point of modern merge between the U.S. intelligence community and Big Tech social media.
In many ways, the coordinated political outcomes in Libya and Egypt were the beta test for the coordinated domestic political outcomes we saw in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The U.S. intelligence community working with social media platforms and political operatives.
Overlaying all of that background activity was also a new alignment of the Obama-era intelligence apparatus with ideological federal “contractors“. Where does this contractor activity manifest? In the FISA Court opinion of Rosemary Collyer who cited the “interagency memorandum of understanding”, or MOU.
Hopefully, you can see a small part of how tentacled the system to organize/weaponize the intelligence apparatus was. None of this was accidental, all of this was by design, and the United States Senate was responsible for intentionally allowing most of this to take place. The tools the government used to monitor threats were now being used to monitor every American. WE THE PEOPLE were now the threat the national security system was monitoring.
That’s the 30,000/ft level backdrop history of what was happening as the modern IC was created. Next, we will go into how all these various intelligence networks began working in unison and how they currently control all of the other DC institutions under them; including how they can carve out the President from knowing their activity.
♦ When Barack Obama was installed in January 2009, the Democrats held a 60-seat majority in the U.S. Senate. As the people behind the Obama installation began executing their longer-term plan, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was a tool to create the Intelligence Branch; it was not an unintentional series of events.
When Obama was installed, Dianne Feinstein was the Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), and Democrat operative Dan Jones was her lead staffer. Feinstein was completely controlled by those around her including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The CIA was in the process of turning over personnel following the Bush era, and as a result of a massive multi-year narrative of diminished credibility (Iraq WMD), a deep purge was underway. Obama/Holder were in the process of shifting intelligence alignment and the intensely political Democrat Leader Harry Reid was a key participant.
THE TRAP – Many people say that Congress is the solution to eliminating the Fourth and superseding Branch of Government, the Intelligence Branch. This is an exercise in futility because the Legislative Branch, specifically the SSCI, facilitated the creation of the Intelligence Branch. The SSCI cannot put the genie they created back in the bottle without admitting they too are corrupt; and the background story of their corruption is way too intense to be exposed now.
Every member of the SSCI is compromised in some controlling manner. Those Senators who disliked the control over them; specifically disliked because the risk of sunlight was tenuous and, well, possible; have either left completely or stepped down from the committee. None of the SSCI members past or present would ever contemplate saying openly what their tenure involved.
[Note: You might remember when Vice Chairman Mark Warner’s text messages surfaced, there was a controlled Republican SSCI member who came to his defense in February of 2018. It was not accidental that exact Senator later became the chair of the SSCI himself. That Republican Senator is Marco Rubio, now vice-chair since the Senate re-flipped back to the optics of Democrat control in 2021.]
All of President Obama’s 2009 intelligence appointments required confirmation from the Senate. The nominees had to first pass through the Democrat controlled SSCI, and then to a full Senate vote where Democrats held a 60-vote majority. Essentially, Obama got everyone he wanted in place easily. Rahm Emmanuel was Obama’s Chief of Staff, and Valerie Jarrett was Senior Advisor.
Tim Geithner was Treasury Secretary in 2010 when the joint DOJ/FBI and IRS operation to target the Tea Party took place after the midterm “shellacking” caused by the Obamacare backlash. Mitch McConnell was Minority Leader in the Senate but supported the targeting of the Tea Party as his Senate colleagues were getting primaried by an angry and effective grassroots campaign. McConnell’s friend, Senator Bob Bennett, getting beaten in Utah was the final straw.
Dirty Harry and Mitch McConnell saw the TEA Party through the same prism. The TEA Party took Kennedy’s seat in Massachusetts (Scott Brown); Sharon Angle was about to take out Harry Reid in Nevada; Arlen Spector was taken down in Pennsylvania; Senator Robert Byrd died; Senator Lisa Murkowski lost her primary to Joe Miller in Alaska; McConnell’s nominee Mike Castle lost to Christine O’Donnell in Delaware; Rand Paul won in Kentucky. This is the background. The peasants were revolting…. and visibly angry Mitch McConnell desperately made a deal with the devil to protect himself.
In many ways, the TEA Party movement was/is very similar to the MAGA movement. The difference in 2010 was the absence of a head of the movement, in 2015 Donald Trump became that head figure who benefited from the TEA Party energy. Trump came into office in 2017 with the same congressional opposition as the successful TEA Party candidates in 2011.
Republicans took control of the Senate following the 2014 mid-terms. Republicans took control of the SSCI in January 2015. Senator Richard Burr became chairman of the SSCI, and Dianne Feinstein shifted to Vice-Chair. Dirty Harry Reid left the Senate, and Mitch McConnell took power again.
Republicans were in control of the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2015 when the Intelligence Branch operation against candidate Donald Trump was underway. [Feinstein’s staffer, Dan Jones, left the SSCI so he could act as a liaison and political operative between private-sector efforts (Fusion GPS, Chris Steele) and the SSCI.] The SSCI was a participant in that Fusion GPS/Chris Steele operation, and as a direct consequence Republicans were inherently tied to the problem with President Trump taking office in January of 2017. Indiana Republican Senator Dan Coats was a member of the SSCI.
Bottom line…. When it came to the intelligence system targeting Donald Trump during the 2015/2016 primary, the GOP was just as much at risk as their Democrat counterparts.
When Trump unexpectedly won the 2016 election, the SSCI was shocked more than most. They knew countermeasures would need to be deployed to protect themselves from any exposure of their prior intelligence conduct. Immediately Senator Dianne Feinstein stepped down from the SSCI, and Senator Mark Warner was elevated to Vice Chairman.
Indiana’s own Mike Pence, now Vice President, recommended fellow Hoosier, SSCI Senator Dan Coats, to become President Trump’s Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). [Apply hindsight here]
• To give an idea of the Intelligence Branch power dynamic, remind yourself how House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), Chairman Devin Nunes, tried to get access to the DOJ/FBI records of the FISA application used against the Trump campaign via Carter Page.
Remember, Devin Nunes only saw a portion of the FISA trail from his review of a Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) previously given to President Obama. Chairman Nunes had to review the PDB at the White House SCIF due to compartmented intelligence, another example of the silo benefit.
Remember the massive stonewalling and blocking of the DOJ/FBI toward Nunes? Remember the back-and-forth battle over declassification surrounding the Nunes memo?
Remember, after Nunes went directly to House Speaker Paul Ryan for help (didn’t get any), the DOJ only permitted two members from each party within the HPSCI to review the documents, and only at the DOJ offices of main justice?
Contrast that amount of House Intel Committee railroading by intelligence operatives in the DOJ, DOJ-NSD and FBI, with the simple request by Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Mark Warner asking to see the Carter Page FISA application and immediately a copy being delivered to him on March 17th 2017.
Can you see which intelligence committee is aligned with the deepest part of the deep state?
Oh, how quickly we forget:
The contrast of ideological alignment between the House, Senate and Intelligence Branch is crystal clear when viewed through the prism of cooperation. You can see which legislative committee holds the power and support of the Intelligence Branch. The Senate Intel Committee facilitates the corrupt existence of the IC Branch, so the IC Branch only cooperates with the Senate Intel Committee. It really is that simple.
• The Intelligence Branch carefully selects its own members by controlling how security clearances are investigated and allowed (FBI). The Intelligence Branch also uses compartmentalization of intelligence as a way to keep each agency, and each downstream branch of government (executive, legislative and judicial), at arm’s length as a method to stop anyone from seeing the larger picture of their activity. I call this the “silo effect“, and it is done by design.
I have looked at stunned faces when I presented declassified silo product from one agency to the silo customers of another. You would be astonished at what they don’t know because it is not in their ‘silo’.
Through the advice and consent rules, the Intelligence Branch uses the SSCI to keep out people they consider dangerous to their ongoing operations. Any appointee to the intelligence community must first pass through the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, before they get a full Senate vote. If the SSCI rejects the candidate, they simply refuse to take up the nomination. The president is then blocked from that appointment. This is what happened with President Trump over and over again.
• Additionally, the Intelligence Branch protects itself, and its facilitating allies through the formal classification process. The Intelligence Branch gets to decide unilaterally what information will be released and what information will be kept secret. There is no entity outside the Intelligence Branch, and yes that includes the President of the United States, who can supersede the classification authority of the Intelligence Branch. {Go Deep} and {Go Deep} This is something 99.9% of the people on our side get totally and frustratingly wrong.
No one can declassify, or make public, anything the Intelligence Branch will not agree to. Doubt this? Ask Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe, or even President Trump himself.
• The classification process is determined inside the Intelligence Branch, all by themselves. They get to choose what rank of classification exists on any work product they create; and they get to decide what the classification status is of any work product that is created by anyone else. The Intelligence Branch has full control over what is considered classified information and what is not. The Intelligence Branch defines what is a “national security interest” and what is not. A great technique for hiding fingerprints of corrupt and illegal activity.
[For familiar reference see the redactions to Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages. The Intelligence Branch does all redactions.]
• Similarly, the declassification process is a request by an agency, even a traditionally superior agency like the President of the United States, to the Intelligence Branch asking for them to release the information. The Intelligence Branch again holds full unilateral control.
If the head of the CIA refuses to comply with the declassification instruction of the President, what can the president do except fire him/her? {Again, GO DEEP} How does the President replace the non-compliant cabinet member? They have to go through the SSCI confirmation. See the problem?
Yes, there are ways to break up the Intelligence Branch, but they do not start with any congressional effort. As you can see above, the process is the flaw – not the solution. Most conservative pundits have their emphasis on the wrong syllable. Their cornerstone is false.
For their own self-preservation, the Intelligence Branch has been interfering in our elections for years. The way to tear this apart begins with STATE LEVEL election reform that blocks the Legislative Branch from coordinating with the Intelligence Branch.
The extreme federalism approach is critical and also explains why Joe Biden has instructed Attorney General Merrick Garland to use the full power of the DOJ to stop state level election reform efforts. The worry of successful state level election control is also why the Intelligence Branch now needs to support the federal takeover of elections.
Our elections have been usurped by the Intelligence Branch. Start with honest elections and we will see just how much Democrat AND Republican corruption is dependent on manipulated election results. Start at the state level. Start there…. everything else is downstream.
♦ COLLAPSED OVERSIGHT – The modern system to ‘check’ the Executive Branch was the creation of the legislative “Gang of Eight,” a legislative oversight mechanism intended to provide a bridge of oversight between the authority of the intelligence community within the Executive Branch.
The Go8 construct was designed to allow the President authority to carry out intelligence operations and provide the most sensitive notifications to a select group within Congress.
The Go8 oversight is directed to the position, not the person, and consists of: (1) The Speaker of the House; (2) The Minority Leader of the House; (3) The Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, HPSCI; (4) The Ranking Member (minority) of the HPSCI; (5) The Leader of the Senate; (6) The Minority Leader of the Senate; (7) The Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, SSCI; and finally (8) the Vice-Chair of the SSCI.
Example: When the Chief Executive (the President) initiates an intelligence operation on behalf of the United States, the President triggers a “finding memo.” In essence, the instruction to the intel agency or agencies to authorize a covert operation. When that process takes place, the Go8 are the first people notified. Depending on the sensitivity of the operation, sometimes the G08 are notified immediately after the operation is conducted. The notification can be a phone call or an in-person briefing.
Because of the sensitivity of their intelligence information, the Gang of Eight hold security clearances that permit them to receive and review all intelligence operations. The intelligence community are also responsible for briefing the Go8 with the same information they use to brief the President.
~ 2021 Gang of Eight ~
The Go8 design is intended to put intelligence oversight upon both political parties in Congress; it is designed that way by informing the minority leaders of both the House and Senate as well as the ranking minority members of the SSCI and HPSCI. Under the concept, the President cannot conduct an intelligence operation; and the intelligence community cannot carry out intelligence gathering operations without the majority and minority parties knowing about it.
The modern design of this oversight system was done to keep rogue and/or corrupt intelligence operations from happening. However, as we shared in the preview to this entire discussion, the process was usurped during the Obama era. {GO DEEP}
Former FBI Director James Comey openly admitted to Congress on March 20, 2017, that the FBI, FBI Counterintelligence Division, DOJ and DOJ-National Security Division, together with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the CIA, had been conducting independent investigations of Donald Trump for over a year without informing the Go8. Comey justified the lack of informing Go8 oversight by saying, “because of the sensitivity of the matter.”
Stupidly, Congress never pressed James Comey on that issue. The arrogance was astounding, and the acceptance by Congress was infuriating. However, that specific example highlighted just how politically corrupt the system had become. In essence, Team Obama usurped the entire design of congressional oversight…. and Congress just brushed it off.
Keep in mind, Comey did not say the White House was unaware; in fact he said exactly the opposite, he said, “The White House was informed through the National Security Council,” (the NSC). The unavoidable implication and James Comey admission that everyone just brushed aside, was that President Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, was informed of the intelligence operation(s) against Donald Trump. After all, the NSC reports to the National Security Advisor.
Does the January 20, 2017, Susan Rice memo look different now?
Again, no one saw the immediate issue. What Comey just described on that March Day in 2017 was the usurpation of the entire reason the Gang of Eight exists; to eliminate the potential for political weaponization of the Intelligence Community by the executive branch. The G08 notifications to the majority and minority are specifically designed to make sure what James Comey admitted to doing was never supposed to happen.
Team Obama carried out a political operation using the intelligence community and the checks-and-balances in the system were intentionally usurped. This is an indisputable fact.
Worse still, the entire legislative branch of Congress, which then specifically included the Republicans that now controlled the House and Senate, did nothing. They just ignored what was admitted. The usurpation was willfully ignored.
The mechanism of the G08 was bypassed without a twitch of condemnation or investigation…. because the common enemy was Donald Trump.
This example highlights the collapse of the system. Obama, the Executive Branch, collapsed the system by usurping the process; in essence the process became the bigger issue, and the lack of immediate Legislative Branch reaction became evidence of open acceptance. The outcomes of the usurpation played out over the next four years, Donald J. Trump was kneecapped and lost his presidency because of it. However, the bigger issue of the collapse still exists.
The downstream consequence of the Legislative Branch accepting the Executive Branch usurpation meant both intelligence committees were compromised. Additionally, the leadership of both the House and Senate were complicit. Think about this carefully. The Legislative Branch allowance of the intelligence usurpation meant the Legislative Branch was now subservient to the Intelligence Branch.
That’s where we are.
Right now.
That’s where we are.
Term-3 Obama is now back in the White House with Joe Biden.
NOTE: Former Obama National Security aide and counsel to the President, Lisa Monaco, is in her current position as Deputy Attorney General, specifically to make sure all of these revelations do not become a legal risk to Barack Obama and the people who created them. The SSCI confirmed Monaco for this purpose because the Senate is just as much at risk.
Term-1 and Term-2 Obama usurped the ‘check and balance‘ within the system and weaponized the intelligence apparatus. During Trump’s term that weaponization was covered up by a compliant congress, complicit senate intelligence committee, and not a single member of the oversight called it out. Now, Term-3 Obama steps back in to continue the cover up and continue the weaponization.
Hopefully, you can now see the scale of the problem that surrounds us with specific citation for what has taken place. What I just explained to you above is not conspiracy theory, it is admitted fact that anyone can look upon. Yet….
Have you seen this mentioned anywhere? Have you seen this called out by anyone in Congress? Have you seen anyone in media (ally or adversary) call this out? Have you seen any member of the Judicial Branch stand up and say wait, what is taking place is not okay? Have you seen a single candidate for elected office point this out? Have you seen anyone advising a candidate to point this out?
This is our current status. It is not deniable. The truth exists regardless of our comfort.
Not a single person in power will say openly what has taken place. They are scared of the Fourth Branch. The evidence of what has taken place is right there in front of our face. The words, actions and activities of those who participated in this process are not deniable, in fact most of it is on record.
There are only two members of the Gang of Eight who have existed in place from January 2007 (the real beginning of Obama’s term, two years before he took office when the Congress flipped). Only two members of the G08 have been consistently in place from January of 2007 to right now, today. All the others came and went, but two members of the Gang of Eight have been part of that failed and collapsed oversight throughout the past 15 years, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell.
♦ TECHNOLOGY – On a global scale – the modern intelligence gathering networks are now dependent on data collection to execute their intelligence missions. In the digital age nations have been executing various methods to gather that data. Digital surveillance has replaced other methods of interception. Those surveillance efforts have resulted in a coalescing of regional data networks based on historic multi-national relationships.
We have a recent frame of reference for the “U.S. data collection network” within the NSA. Through the allied process the Five Eyes nations all rely on the NSA surveillance database (U.K, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and U.S.) The NSA database provides the digital baseline for intelligence operations in defense of our allies. The portals into the NSA database are essentially an assembly of allies in like-minded ideological connection to the United States.
Unfortunately, there have been some revelations about the NSA database being used to monitor our allies, like in the example of Germany and surveillance on Angela Merkel’s phone. As long as “the good guys” are operating honorably, allies of the United States can feel confident about having protection from the NSA surveillance of global digital data. We warn our friends if we detect something dangerous etc.
The U.S. has nodes on communication pipelines to intercept and extract data. We have also launched hundreds, perhaps thousands, of satellites to conduct surveillance and gather up data. All of this data is fed into the NSA database where it is monitored (presumably) as a national security mechanism, and in defense of our allies.
However, what about data collection or data networks that are outside the NSA database? What do our enemies do? The NSA database is just one intelligence operation of digital surveillance amid the entire world, and we do not allow access by adversaries we are monitoring. So what do they do? What do our allies do who might not trust the United States due to past inconsistencies, ie. the Middle East?
The answers to those questions highlight other data collection networks. So, a brief review of the major players is needed.
♦ CHINA – China operates their own database. They, like the NSA, scoop up data for their system. Like us, China launches satellites and deploys other electronic data collection methods to download into their database. This is why the issues of electronic devices manufactured in China becomes problematic. Part of the Chinese data collection system involves the use of spyware, hacking and extraction.
Issues with Chinese communication company Huawei take on an added dimension when you consider the goal of the Chinese government to conduct surveillance and assemble a network of data to compete with the United States via the NSA. Other Chinese methods of surveillance and data-collection are less subversive, as in the examples of TicTok and WeChat. These are Chinese social media companies that are scraping data just like the NSA scrapes data from Facebook, Twitter and other Silicon Valley tech companies. [ Remember, the Intelligence Branch is a public-private partnership. ]
♦ RUSSIA – It is very likely that Russia operates their own database. We know Russia launches satellites, just like China and the USA, for the same purposes. Russia is also very proficient at hacking into other databases and extracting information to store and utilize in their own network. The difference between the U.S., China and Russia is likely that Russia spends more time on the hacking aspect because they do not generate actual technology systems as rapidly as the U.S. and China.
The most recent database creation is an outcome of an ally having to take action because they cannot rely on the ideology of the United States remaining consistent, as the administrations ping-pong based on ideology.
♦ SAUDI ARABIA – Yes, in 2016 we discovered that Saudi Arabia was now operating their own intelligence data-gathering operation. It would make sense, given the nature of the Middle East and the constant fluctuations in political support from the United States. It is a lesson the allied Arab community and Gulf Cooperation Council learned quickly when President Obama went to Cairo in 2009 and launched the Islamist Spring (Arab Spring) upon them.
I have no doubt the creation of the Saudi intelligence network was specifically because the Obama administration started supporting radical Islamists within the Muslim Brotherhood and threw fuel on the fires of extremism all over the Arab world.
Think about it., What would you do if you were Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, the UAE, Jordan, Oman or Yemen and you knew the United States could just trigger an internal uprising of al-Qaeda, ISIS and the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood to seek your destruction?
Without a doubt, those urgent lessons from 2009, 2010, 2011 triggered the formation of the Arab Intelligence Network as a network to defend itself with consistency. They assembled the network and activated it in 2017 as pictured above.
♦ Israel – Along a similar outlook to the Arab network, no doubt Israel operates an independent data collection system as a method of protecting itself from ever-changing U.S. politics amid a region that is extremely hostile to its very existence. Like the others, Israel launches proprietary satellites, and we can be sure they use covert methods to gather electronic data just like the U.S. and China.
As we have recently seen in the Pegasus story, Israel creates spyware programs that are able to track and monitor cell phone communications of targets. The spyware would not work unless Israel had access to some network where the phone meta-data was actually stored. So yeah, it makes sense for Israel to operate an independent intelligence database.
♦ Summary: As we understand the United States Intelligence Branch of government as the superseding entity that controls the internal politics of our nation, we also must consider that multiple nations have the same issue. There are major intelligence networks around the world beside the NSA “Five-Eyes” database. China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Israel all operate proprietary databases deploying the same tools and techniques for assembly.
The geopolitical conflict that has always existed has now shifted into a digital battle-space. The Intelligence Agencies from these regions are now operating as the backbone of the government that uses them and has become dependent on them. [<- Reread that].
Once you accept the digital-era intelligence apparatus of China, Russia, Saudi-Arabia, The United States and Israel, are now the primary national security mechanisms for stabilization of government; then you accept the importance of those intelligence operations.
Once you understand how foundational those modern intelligence operations have become for the stability and continuity of those governments…… then you begin to understand just how the United States intelligence community became more important than the government that created it.
From that point it is then critical to understand that domestic intelligence operations are underway to monitor the electronic communication of American citizens inside our own country. YOU are under surveillance. The parents who confront school boards are under surveillance. The political operatives inside the FBI are monitoring everyone who comes onto the radar, that is why the National School Boards Association asked the White House, then the DOJ, to have the FBI start targeting parents. Are things making sense now?
♦ Public Private Partnership – The modern Fourth Branch of Government is only possible because of a Public-Private partnership with the intelligence apparatus. You do not have to take my word for it, the partnership is so brazened they have made public admissions.
The biggest names in Big Tech announced in June their partnership with the Five Eyes intelligence network, ultimately controlled by the NSA, to: (1) monitor all activity in their platforms; (2) identify extremist content; (3) look for expressions of Domestic Violent Extremism (DVE); and then, (4) put the content details into a database where the Five Eyes intelligence agencies (U.K., U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand) can access it.
Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft are all partnering with the intelligence apparatus. It might be difficult to fathom how openly they admit this, but they do. Look at this sentence in the press release (emphasis mine):
[…] “The Group will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.”
Think about that sentence structure very carefully. They are “adding to” the preexisting list…. admitting the group (aka Big Tech) already have access to the the intelligence-sharing database… and also admitting there is a preexisting list created by the Five Eyes consortium.
Obviously, who and what is defined as “extremist content” will be determined by the Big Tech insiders themselves. This provides a gateway, another plausible deniability aspect, to cover the Intelligence Branch from any oversight.
When the Intelligence Branch within government wants to conduct surveillance and monitor American citizens, they run up against problems due to the Constitution of the United States. They get around those legal limitations by sub-contracting the intelligence gathering, the actual data mining, and allowing outside parties (contractors) to have access to the central database.
The government cannot conduct electronic searches (4th amendment issue) without a warrant; however, private individuals can search and report back as long as they have access. What is being admitted is exactly that preexisting partnership. The difference is that Big Tech will flag the content from within their platforms, and now a secondary database filled with the extracted information will be provided openly for the Intelligence Branch to exploit.
The volume of metadata captured by the NSA has always been a problem because of the filters needed to make the targeting useful. There is a lot of noise in collecting all data that makes the parts you really want to identify more difficult to capture. This new admission puts a new massive filtration system in the metadata that circumvents any privacy protections for individuals.
Previously, the Intelligence Branch worked around the constitutional and unlawful search issue by using resources that were not in the United States. A domestic U.S. agency, working on behalf of the U.S. government, cannot listen on your calls without a warrant. However, if the U.S. agency sub-contracts to say a Canadian group, or foreign ally, the privacy invasion is no longer legally restricted by U.S. law.
What was announced in June 2021 is an alarming admission of a prior relationship along with open intent to define their domestic political opposition as extremists.
July 26 (Reuters) – A counterterrorism organization formed by some of the biggest U.S. tech companies including Facebook (FB.O) and Microsoft (MSFT.O) is significantly expanding the types of extremist content shared between firms in a key database, aiming to crack down on material from white supremacists and far-right militias, the group told Reuters.
Until now, the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism’s (GIFCT) database has focused on videos and images from terrorist groups on a United Nations list and so has largely consisted of content from Islamist extremist organizations such as Islamic State, al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Over the next few months, the group will add attacker manifestos – often shared by sympathizers after white supremacist violence – and other publications and links flagged by U.N. initiative Tech Against Terrorism. It will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes, adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.
The firms, which include Twitter (TWTR.N) and Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) YouTube, share “hashes,” unique numerical representations of original pieces of content that have been removed from their services. Other platforms use these to identify the same content on their own sites in order to review or remove it. (read more)
The influence of the Intelligence Branch now reaches into our lives, our personal lives.
In the decades before 9/11/01 the intelligence apparatus intersected with government, influenced government, and undoubtedly controlled many institutions with it. The legislative oversight function was weak and growing weaker, but it still existed and could have been used to keep the IC in check. However, after the events of 9/11/01, the short-sighted legislative reactions opened the door to allow the surveillance state to weaponize against domestic enemies.
After the Patriot Act was triggered, not coincidentally only six weeks after 9/11, a slow and dangerous fuse was lit that ends with the intelligence apparatus being granted a massive amount of power. Simultaneously the mission of the intelligence community now encompassed monitoring domestic threats as defined by the people who operate the surveillance system.
The problem with assembled power is always what happens when a Machiavellian network takes control over that power and begins the process to weaponize the tools for their own malicious benefit. That is exactly what the network of President Barack Obama did.
The Obama network took pre-assembled intelligence weapons (we should never have allowed to be created) and turned those weapons into political tools for his radical and fundamental change. The target was the essential fabric of our nation.
Ultimately, this corrupt political process gave power to create the Fourth Branch of Government, the Intelligence Branch. From that perspective the fundamental change was successful.
This is the scale of corrupt political compromise on both sides of the DC dynamic that we are up against. Preserving this system is also what removing Donald Trump is all about…. The targeting of President Trump in order to preserve the system, the system that was weaponized during the Obama administration, is what the actions of the DOJ and FBI are all about.
What would powerful people in DC do to stop the American people from finding this out?
…. Including an FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.
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Over 2300+ were deliberately killed to implement the unpatriotic act.
And, why is there no recourse in the Supreme Court to abolish these actions? From school teachers, to local police, it feels like we are being ruled over by tyrants!
Because we are ruled by Tyrants.
We are and have been for quite some time.
9/11 was an operation. It was not some organic attack by some rogue outside extremists.
Certainly, it was an attack on We the People. I just don’t believe we have been told the truth about who conducted the attack.
If we are to go with the narrative of the attack being conducted by some rogue foreign terrorists, then it was not only incompetence that didn’t stop them, but it was “perfect” incompetence. That was the tell, the “perfect” incompetence.
Now, ask yourself what recent events took place that were blamed on some foreign actors? The response back home was one of not only incompetence, but “perfect” incompetence too. I am referring to the Wuhan-Flu response. See the similarities?
Once you see the pattern, you can’t unsee the pattern.
Lara Logan pointed this out with the Afghan military withdrawal. It was not by incompetence that we withdrew and left $85B worth of military equipment behind. It was by design. This is another example of “perfect” incompetence.
We the People are waking up and are seeing the patterns. We have been the suckers. The club is getting exposed. We the People are not happy about being played for the suckers for so long. We deserve better. We work too hard and sacrifice too much not to expect better and demand better. We’ve earned it.
President Trump and his crew have simply been trying to wake us up because he doesn’t like being played for a sucker either. He’s been talking about it for 30-40 years. It’s not new. The pushback against it is new. The club are scurrying like rats because they have been operating in darkness and are not good at being exposed.
It seems obvious, on the face of it, that 9/11 was orchestrated as part of a larger scenario (outlined below), and the only people capable of pulling that off are the technocratic globalists who had been infiltrating the political system going back to the late 1960’s. Kissinger and Schwab et. al. got rolling in the early 1970’s (The 1974 Kissinger report outlined a program for reducing global population growth, and that became part of US domestic and foreign policy going forward. Interestingly, a cap of 8 billion was postulated as the maximum at the time, and the global population reached 8 billion in 2019. Think about that.), but the Democrat party was killed and began being cannibalized by communists in 1968, after a decade of softening it up and killing off the opposition, including the two Kennedys.
Once the Towers came down and the deep state orchestrated the march to war in Iraq, a global program of antiwar and anti-Bush agitprop got going, pre-printed signs and all the usual kabuki. It didn’t manage to defeat Bush in 2004, which was Soros et. al. intent, but what it did do was put into place the surveillance state that Obama was later appointed (remember, he was catapulted over Hillary) to fine-tune, as Sundance points out here.
Another important thing happened at the same time, and that was the blowing out of the US budget in order to finance the war on terror and in Iraq. Obama then used the resulting financial upheaval to consolidate money to the largest banks and begin the project of QE that basically made the dollar free all over the world and allowed the perpetrators, WEF/Davos and the old European Banks, to lever those dollars exponentially, giving them much more money for orange revolutions, political takeovers, election fraud, BLM type agitprop operations and the like.
and the tyrants are abetted by cowards. why didnt the House introduce articles of impeachment on Biden BEFORE this recess? They knew what was coming. Now they can say they are stymied.
To quote Pogo, “We have met the enemy and he is us.”
Here is a curious question for you Sundance! Threats against the President are always handled through the Secret Service who will use local law enforcement to provide the necessary “muscle” if it is required!!! WHY DID THE FBI HANDLE THIS SITUATION INVOLVING THE 74 YEAR OLD MAN IN UTAH!!! WHY FOLKS, CURIOUS MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!! 🤬
You post something on Fakebook or twatter and it gets sent to the storm troopers.
How many raids did the Fan Belt Inspectors carry out when people were threatening PDJT ?
This is the first case that they have had the FBI involved in this type of situation!!! If you don’t believe me then go see Dan Bongino podcast! He WAS A FEDERAL AGENT – TREASURY/SECRET SERVICE and participated in several threat investigations and they NEVER used the FBI as part of their team he knows the protocol!!! He said this was not part of the protocol!!! 😑
They just butt in as they please. Do it to DEA all the time. Interagency anger about it, but everyone is afraid of them.
They investigated the NASCAR noose issue. Clearly that was a direct threat to our favorite President, wasn’t it?
Oh, no wait, that was just a garage door pull hoax that got a bunch of publicity.
Come to think of it, for a group who very often cites “they can’t comment on an issue because it is the subject of an ongoing investigation”, they sure do comment on a lot of things. Seems odd? Wonder if there is any sort of pattern regarding what they can comment on and what they can’t?
Maybe they should kneel and ponder their actions. Or maybe they could find some “energetic material” to get themselves off their knees and think more clearly.
Pour encourager les autres.
If your are intimating to send a message with this execution, I agree but WHO CHANGED THE PROTOCOL!!! Bongino, former Treasury/Secret Service Agent is asking the same question!!!
Wasn’t WACO a Derp Operation sending a lethal message?
Bombings and shootings aplenty.
Not so new.
What about Ruby Ridge? “Hey, Randy! what did Vicky make you for breakfast this morning?”
and why were there tanks from Ft Hood at Waco?
They don’t have a problem calling out the military to sick on us but it takes an act of congress when it comes to our border, drug cartels, MS13, etc. This isn’t rocket science.
Waco was an ATF operation as was Ruby Ridge!!!
Derps gonna Derp.
It was Truth Social that reported him. That in itself is a tragedy. Many people get Online and blow of steam, and for many its just that, blowing off steam.
It seems to me that this is another “overkill” example of the feds making an example of individuals with “incorrect” mindsets.
There is the father who prayed with his son in front of a clinic that performs abortions. A pro abortion man shoved the son who was praying with his father. The father shoved back. A group of armed fbi agents stormed the father’s house early in the morning, hauled him out of bed in front of his terrified children, and arrested him.
Roger Stone and his deaf wife, with CNN alerted and filming, received the same treatment in the dark of early morning.
Tracking down individuals who were standing outside on J6, throwing them in jail for years in some cases, before being charged. Denying them the right to view film footage which could corroborate their defense, etc. That is without even acknowledging that J6 was a setup by the Nancy and friends.
The people who have hijacked our country view is as the enemy.
Because 2020 was a well coordinated coup. We have political prisoners now, the pedo flag outflanks the US flag. The constitution and rule of law mean nothing. Are we Learning yet?
Here!Here! I thought the same thing.
My conclusion: it is a demonstration and a threat. And as long as no one in power stands up and says this is wrong, it stands.
I recently shared CTH with a small group of smart people.
It never fails that after I share our beloved Treehouse and its unparalleled view, Sundance puts out something epic that I literally pray those very people see, knowing their eyes, no matter how alert, will be opened to a view few share.
The Fourth Branch of Government cannot be repeated often enough, foundational to understanding our plight.
Blessed we are here.
I have business cards with the site link. “The Truth Is Out There”. I leave them in shopping carts and on the shelves in food aisles. Currently I’m targeting the rice and bean shelves, and I leave them on top of baby food cans.
Brilliant
This is brilliant body of (relentless, hard) work that needs to be read several times over and thoroughly understood.
When we speculate about “who actually runs the White House” and nominate Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Barack Obama, we thouroughly miss the point. The question is WHO runs the 4th Branch of Government? Not which institutions have a share, but what specific individuals, for the institutions mean far less, and the ultimate dictators might not be in government at all at this time. Are things directed by a group, by an individual? Are their divisions of interests and responsibility?
It’s my bias that most bad things start within the CIA. For years there have been assertions that Barack Obama was selected for the Presidency by the CIA, that his education was guided, arranged, and funded thereby, that he worked for a CIA shop. Installing their own President would certainly facilitate the Fourth Branch project. But again that begs the question of who was operating BO? There is no way that he dreamed all this up by himself.
Getting the structure out there in the open is the first step to stopping it. There will be attacks, ridicule, and counterarguments. It’s inevitable that what Sundance has divined is a starter set that will evolve as information emerges. But if we are to survive this has to be stopped and it will not be easy.
The strings transcend our nation alone, such has long been the nature of the CIA, as captured an organization that exists in our political construct.
We are endlessly teasing out the tangled threads striving to unravel the knot that has us bound, each leading to another, some as long as our nation, some leading to the beginning of man himself.
We will never know the whole truth.
My instinct is to point to “THE MUSLEM BROTHERHOOD” They were involved with the Bush people after 911 (maybe before)
I have thought that OBOMA /HOLDER/ linked our countries rulers with the “brotherhood”
Somebody is going to have to say you can call me any name you want, it has zero, it means nothing, it has no consequences as long as I speak the truth as I see the truth. And all of us each according to our stations can do that and this revolution will dissipate because it has no sustenance, it has no popular support, it’s institutionalized by the elites and corporate America, sports, the universities, the media, the foundations but not the people, they are not behind it.
Victor David Hanson 8 Aug 23
Somebody?
Yup, vdh, that somebody is President Trump.
Go back to your RNC/GOPe/RINO basecamp / loser hideout.
You are not MAGA and have never been MAGA.
You are a plagiarizer like o-biden, you are taking portions of President Trump’s MAGA / America First agenda, changing some words and publishing it under your byline.
Dude. That was a quote.
I am getting sick and damn tired of the self appointed little clique who think they’re stomping trolls and who post and repost each others inane little comments on every thread.
If you have any gumption and memory you can recognize long term posters at CTH and what their positions are.
The little clique that I refer to belittes this site with such antics.
Adding to the conversation worthy posts and posters should bring new insights with references and citations/links.
In sum the little posters simply post things are bad, President Trump and CTH are great.
You can and should desire to do better.
Cactus ignore my reply. I was wrong on where you were going with that and went off on a hair trigger.
you really like that picture of Obama if he was in Star Wars.
it’s not him but it looks like him so I like it
The Dim Reaper.
photo shop. BHO skips leg day.
Legs can get a bit overdeveloped from carrying the weight of that ego, and his puppet masters, around.
Sundance,
I think you need to add Regitigers write-up of what happened on J6 to this. In my opinion, it is just as big of an impact of where we are as the others since the actions that day have delayed or stopped dealing with the problems you outline.
Imagine if Pence had done the right thing that day rather than rolling over for the coup. Everything that has happened since is because of the direction he chose to take.
The Deep State has just become more bold since that day.
I have been sharing the post containing the write-up on that day, particularly directly to Mike Pence’s twitter since he keeps claiming he had no other choice that day.
Today I got a response to one of those posts… a leftist responding in support of Pence and what he did. The leftist claimed the House and Senate both voted on and rejected any objections to the electoral vote count and provided links to C-span videos of the rejection of objections to PA and AZ. One link was to a Senate rejection, and the text for the video said it occurred after a 5 hour delay due to the breach at the Capitol.
I can’t recall if Regitiger addressed this in the write-up, but I am sure there is an explanation of why these votes were held, and under what rules, and if they were anything other than a formality.
Bottom line is, I think Pence is feeling some heat from this, and likely has some sock-puppets online helping him defend against it.
Certification takes place in the House.
What might’ve transpired in the Senate doesn’t provide standing to object to the certification at SCOTUS.
Regitiger truly nailed it.
Treepers Rock.
Thanks Maquis.
Two of the C-span links were to House votes, one for PA and one for AZ.
The text of one says House members also spoke about the breach “earlier that day” which suggests they were operating under Nancy’s emergency rules.
I agree Regitiger nailed it, but C-span is playing with the descriptions.
I’m new here, where can I find Regitiger’s write-up? Thanks.
Scripture says that the devil has but a little time. I believe this refeers to the last 7 years of this age under the AntiChrist. Scripture also states 2 other important details. 1. Only God is omnipresent indicating will have to rely on a system to empower his beast system. 2. The Devil will want this entire system in place before his AntiChrist takes power. What we are seeing is the assembly of the mark of the beast system being set up by the devil. God Bless.
Everything that Sundance is saying was done by government agencies and departments was done by people in those departments and agencies. Those people have names, and addresses. Those people all need to be named.
I haven’t forgotten a series that PJMedia did, where they looked at all the lawyers the incoming Obama administration hired on to the DoJ Office of Civil Rights division. Each and every one of them was a radical race grievance monger. If you expand this kind of hiring practice out into the entire Executive branch, it is little wonder the Federal government is essentially the government arm of the Democrat party. It is now staffed from the lowest GS level all the way up to the SES level with activists. All government agencies, everywhere, with far left activists as staff. These are the people that bent the security apparatus against their political enemies.
Yes I saw it real time and you nailed it. Many positions that were historically allotted to political appointees were converted to permanent positions. Meaning the politicals stayed when Obama left. In the instances of senior executive service those people could now agency hop. From a political perspective it was a master stroke. I could see it and my name is nobody.
Which answers the question, “How deep does it go?”
Speaking of where Zero has taken us, when watching Tucker interview Sund, when Sund said that there were as many as 19 domestic terrorists coming to the protest, how many of you thought,
Oh, a Catholic pro-life group is going to have a potluck after Trump’s speech?
Or,
A group of parents will meet to discuss how to protect their kids from evil teachers?
Or,
They rounded up another group of jobless basement dwellers to trick into joining their plan to commit some criminal act and speaking it loud and clear into the hidden mike?
Did any of you actually believe that there were real terrorists planning real terrorist acts? Sund talked about plans to seize the Capital, plans to kill Congressmen and plans to kill police. None of which actually happened. The only people who had weapons were the police.
The crowd did breach the Capital, but most just toured it after being let in by police.
The most terroristic thing that happened is the FBI planted phony pipe bombs near the RNC and the DNC, and arranged to have them found at times coordinated with the events at the Capital. Of course, mysterious snafus prevent them from finding their pipe bomber. Cell phone, metro card, auto plates, but still they can’t find the culprit.
Yep, we found no terrorists, but that isn’t stopping us from torturing good people and holding kangeroo courts on them to throw them into jail. The One took all their rights away.
“We cannot fight our way through the issues until we first realize what lies at the root of the problem.”
So very, very true. Getting to the root of the problem includes digging deep enough to discover what and where we allowed our government to create the details of the Patriot Act. It seems too convenient that there were authors waiting in the wings, ready to fire off such overreaching legislation on such short notice.
When we observe that Obama/Biden redefined what is a “terrorist” to include their political opposition it’s almost as if he was planning to “fundamentally transform” the way government does things……….
Nor can an effective voice form when censorship is directed by corporate institutions against the human individuals forming the public voice that animates the commons of society.
Perhaps censorship is more of a 4th Amendment issue than is currently appreciated. What has been directively occurring is not so much censorship of speech, but something far more egregious and dangerous to our constitutional republic: the unreasonable seizure of human citizen speech by alien non-human corporate institutions.
The speech of human citizen persons had been made serially subject unreasonable seizure in the public commons.
What must be the ultimate result if corporate institutions gain superior rights to subordinate at will the constitutionally enumerated liberties of our human citizens?
This is dehumanization of the most insidious form; a form of Eugenics that reduces individuals at will to other persons draped in the mantle of corporate institutional authority. More damning still, these corporate institutions have parents… government that chartered them into existence.
How can we be a nation of laws when such non-human persons enjoy special rights to unreasonably seize the free expression of our citizens in apparent defiance of our enumerated 4th Amendment rights?
Sundance is right. One of the most obvious examples is the FBI/DOJ completely ignoring the domestic terror group Antifa/BLM. These groups literally use violence, anarchy and intimidation to terrorize their political opponents into submission. They organize on social media and are well funded. But it’s the “right wingers” that DOJ is going after and constantly reporting.
With the FBI instigators on J6 foolish people got caught up in the fervor and invaded the Capital Building. This was all the DOJ/FBI needed to exploit for a political purge of “right wing insurrectionists” and to target PDJT. It’s the same play as 9/11 and the patriot act. Idiots and corruptocrats in congress create the veneer of “legitimacy, the enemedia dutifully reports the talking points issued by their Intel allies and bastards like Garland set the FBI hounds loose. This is an FBI mostly purged of moderates and conservatives thanks to Holder and Obama.
This madness ends when the will exists to flush the agencies with wholesale firings and prosecutions. This GOP has no will for that. Only PDJT has that will….and they’re trying to imprison him.
prayer rugs abandoned at the southern border as malefactors enter …
watch the Sicario movies, the prayer rug incident they portray is drawn from true life
There is more truth in that movie than most care to admit.
Sundance, that was a ballsy move for you to go to DC in 2000 with a particular mission in mind
I salute you, Sir
Sundance often qualifies for hazard-duty pay…that was an unbelievable trip…especially his telling us about the envelope someone slid under his hotel door.
“What would powerful people in DC do to stop the American people from finding this out?”
Well, for sure, I know everyone of those “powerful people” is a “leave-behind” of one of the America mafia’s (COW) dons.
Ask Randy Weaver and the 19 dead children at Waco if we didn’t have a weaponized FBI 20 years before Obama. This has been going on for a long time!
So true.
More important than how did we get here, is how do we get out?
yes what comey described was the usurpation of power. and Stafanick, nor any other Reb. SAID A WORD. When this hahppened, “FBI Director James Comey just matter-of-factly explains no one outside the DOJ was informed about the FBI operation. Why? Because that’s just the way things are done. His justification for unilateral operations was “because of the sensitivity of the matter“, totally ignoring any constitutional or regulatory framework for oversight;” why didnt they scream at him, “SENSITIVITY” !!!!! it is unconstitutional. Maybe it would have done no good but they would have been on RECORD.
A fascinating – and terrifying – read. “KGB” That’s what came to my mind as I read this. “KGB” Being a Cold War Boomer, having grown up during the Cold War and reading about, and watching the machinations of the old Soviet Union and their storm troopers the KGB, I have put the pieces together and have started describing our current system as Soviet, or more accurately neo-Soviet. Trying to get the masses to understand what is being done here is both maddening and frustrating. The RonBots think that putting the RIGHT person in the WH is the answer to all of our problems – what I call the right’s tendency to want to “Hire a Champion” to their fighting for them. Getting them to understand that Uncle Ron – even IF he were truly “Trump without the ‘baggage'” – will not have more success than Trump did is an exercise in futility because they are operating under a paradigm that no longer exists. To wit, that our constitution means anything to those who are running this country (into the ground).
Although I agree with Sundance that the answer to this is “extreme federalism”, I fear we’ve missed the opportunity for maximum effectiveness of this strategy. Even within most Red States, the states have become a farm system for the federal structure, wherein new adherents are groomed to be sent on to feed the illusion of “oversight” that we have today. Couple that with the institutional murder of 75 year old man in UT just recently, and most Americans are just hunkering down. Gateway Pundit has a story up, with video embed, of Ammon Bundy being arrested at a football fund raising event. What struck me, as I watched the video, was not the actual arrest of Bundy. It was the facial expressions and body language of those around him. Fear. Defeat. “Please, don’t look my way.” Precisely what Dostoevsky described in his writings as he recounted how the Russian people were subdued by the Soviets.
The People need to be activated. I’m not sure how to do that, other than to take the information Sundance provides (and a few others) and distill it down for the audience we, as individuals, might encounter. It can’t be effectively done electronically. There are far too many trolls, bots, and (IMO) IC plants, who dirty and dumb the message. I think we are going to have to start at the most rudimentary, and basic, of grassroots: Person to person, from Patriots’ mouths to God’s ears, as it were. There are actually more people who instinctively know how badly off the rails we are as a country, who stay silent because they think they are a minority. They need to be shown they are not the minority.
Pretty bleak.
“Beloved, be quick to repent of your pride and relinquish the need to be in control.
Why make Me wait and delay My Divine Deliverance and wonder-working Power to perform Miracles in the midst of you, because you have chosen to rather explore and exhaust all other man-made ideas and quick fix solutions?”
“When will you let go of human intellect and understanding, and Look to Me alone?”
We all are being watched and cataloged by these silos. More examples will be made by the silos of us as they did in Utah. Time for new Code Talkers amongst us perhaps.
Recall when HRC was arrested at the 911 ceremony? That arrest was the Energy Department police unit that is extremely low key. Notice HRC has never held a position in government since that day… research why? Everything is a lie, a psychological program !
How do we break the hold and change the outcome. They are dug in a we are late to enter the fray.
Wow!!! I don’t have time to read all of this now, but as far as I’ve gotten is by far the best explanation of the incomprehensible state of our current dis-union. And of course it goes back to Bush/Cheney, Uniparty leaders who who are card carrying members of the globalist elite. We need to get this out and share it everywhere!
Sundance, you have created the best summary of historical events I know about.
Your contribution to world history is just amazing.
The article I’m commenting on
is proof of the above.
Hug to you and
your family !
Thanks for the repost, I learn something new every time I read it. Gov really is out of control.
If I remember accurately, it was rumsfeld who said, “we don’t know what we don’t know”, or something like that.
As he was a poster boy for the global sociopaths, he was involved in setting the foundation for obozo and his minions to expand the network as Sundance is describing here, and has repeatedly done so. At this point, there are few options available that do not involve a level of conflict which all of us that comment here do not want.
Blessings to everyone.
How did we get here?
Look for that moment when the American people stopped believing in the God who created everything and started to believe in the false gods! The same false gods that corrupted Adam/Eve, they are real beings.
The sick humans that believe in these false gods and do their bidding some of those have their pictures on this page. It is the same as it has always been. Money/Power Depravity and finally Destruction. History is our teacher, it has happened before and as before God ends it! Very little time left.
Holy Crap!!!!!!!!