In the United States we have the National Security Agency (NSA). The NSA collects all available metadata on almost all electronic devices worldwide that can be reached. Access to that database underpins the “Fourth Branch of Government,” the most powerful branch, the U.S. Intelligence Branch.
In addition to a global scraping of metadata, the NSA also collects the domestic private information of all Americans. This was the essential background story that NSA Contractor Edward Snowden broke several years ago. We now know this to be an accepted fact.
The United States internal political debate shifted from ‘should they do this’ to ‘how can we manage the people who do this‘?
The results over the last ten years of trying to manage the exploitation of this database have been a case study in failure.
Year after year, the NSA admits their control over the database is structurally flawed, essentially non-existent. The fourth amendment protections of U.S. citizens have been erased, and now even U.S. government contractors are using the NSA database to monitor whoever and whatever they want. Again, I repeat: ‘The Fourth Branch of government is a public-private partnership”.
However, beyond domestic exploitation, the NSA database is presumably only used by, accessed by and available to, the foreign allies that make up the “Five Eyes” partners. The U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada and New Zealand make up the allies within the Five Eyes intelligence apparatus. These allies have access to the same NSA database as U.S. operatives.
Putting aside how the NSA database is exploited inside the U.S. for a moment – if you are a government outside the Five Eyes system; and you wanted to spy on your own citizens and political enemies the way the NSA conducts surveillance on its own citizens; you would need some other access point to spy on your opposition. That’s where an Israeli company called NSO comes into the picture. {Guardian Report}
NSO creates tech software, spyware, that allows governments to spy on cell phones.
As the Guardian notes, [NSO] “sells surveillance technology to governments worldwide. Its flagship product is Pegasus, spying software – or spyware – that targets iPhones and Android devices. Once a phone is infected, a Pegasus operator can secretly extract chats, photos, emails and location data, or activate microphones and cameras without a user knowing.”
Due to the nature of the product they sell, NSO works with the Israeli government to vet the purchaser of the spyware they sell.
The Pegasus’ cell phone surveillance technology is a tool for governments who cannot build out the technology on their own, and they do not have access to the NSA database. Pegasus is marketed as an alternative to data collection that allows the government agency to specifically target individual cell phones and spy on what that phone is doing.
Returning to the Guardian report, “Claudio Guarnieri, who runs Amnesty International’s Security Lab, said once a phone was infected with Pegasus, a client of NSO could in effect take control of a phone, enabling them to extract a person’s messages, calls, photos and emails, secretly activate cameras or microphones, and read the contents of encrypted messaging apps such as WhatsApp, Telegram and Signal.”
The Guardian, and a group of allied leftists in media, has been granted access to a leaked massive batch of 50,000 phone numbers that the Pegasus software was operating in. [Likely some Bradley Manning type leftist in the Israeli government leaked the information (my guess)] As a result, the media are going through the phone numbers to determine: (1) who was targeted; and (2) by whom? Many journalists are on the list [READ FULL ARTICLE].
As you read the article keep something in mind. The leftists doing the investigation, ie. “The Pegasus Project”, are quick to point out foreign governments they oppose who purchased the Pegasus software (Poland, Hungary, Mexico etc). The spin from the Guardian is that brutal governments are using the Pegasus spyware to monitor, track and even target for assassination enemies and journalists; as well as just monitor their domestic political opposition.
What the Pegasus group is claiming might actually be correct and true; however, I find myself shrugging at the incredulity they attempt to drum-up while simultaneously ignoring the fact the United States Government, via the NSA, has been doing this for years and it doesn’t seem like anyone cares.
President Trump was under almost every kind of intelligence surveillance including exploitation of the NSA database for years, even during his term in office. The Guardian didn’t care and all the leftists on the Pegasus Project didn’t flinch an inch….
The U.S, U.K, Australia, New Zealand and Canada do it all the time. However, as soon as Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Morocco, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Hungary, India and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), start doing it…. well, hell, the leftist media light their hair on fire.
Hypocrisy much?
Oh, wait, that’s right…. ‘Ideology much’.
If you live your life like God is spying on you 24/7, you really don’t have to worry about anyone else.
They don’t have an ideology. They have an agenda. You cannot have both.
Everyone spying on everyone.
Nothing is not known about everyone.
Everyone knows everything about everyone.
Sounds like tasting the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge.
As Paul Joseph Watson points out w.r.t. leftists: “It’s ok when we do it.”
BURN IT ALL DOWN!
So, we should first get rid of our cell phones ? I still have a land line anyway. Those of us who lived without a cell for most of our lives can probably adapt pretty well to life without one.
The only problem is that my children use them exclusively and I like to hear from them occasionally. Text is the way we talk.
A landline would be an improvement because it has no pictures of your family in contact list etc. But you would still have to be careful of what you say because they will be recording your calls.
Hmmm, can of course buy prepaid flip phones from WallyWorld, for about twenty bucks. At least previous is an option for magas attending ‘forbidden’ events like political rallies/speeches, etc.
A bit over the top? If anything you are not “over the top” enough.
Burner phones. Drug lords have been doing it for decades.
my land line only cost us less than fifty bucks – a YEAR! if they’re gonna spy on us I demand phone bill reparations
My cell phone is on it’s last legs. It will not be replaced. I also no longer own vehicles that have satellite radio. The government doesn’t need to know every damned thing we do and where we go.
90% of those pre-satellite vehicles have already made it to the junkyards. Most of the rest are now being driven by the criminal class, so that they cannot be tracked. If you are a mechanic, who can keep your car running for more than 20 years and it has no satellite GPS connections, you are in business for the short term future. Once people learn how to disable their own satellite access, the gubmint will make it illegal through more regulations. They will spy on us as long as the Chinese Communist Party can spy on everybody. They do this illegal spying crap because they can.
and because they deeply, deeply want and need to. they know what they’ve done. they know what they deserve.
I use a flip fone with limited capabilities however with incessant upgrades to cellular network they are killing off the dumb fones. Universal 5G will give “them” really accurate location capabilities.
I would have imagine this is simply a side benefit to the nosies however given what I have learned the last few years I don’t think it overly paranoid to think this is done deliberately so as to enforce the universal dog collar. I told my wife I am thinking about getting a one-way pager (remember those) and not taking my cellfone out of it’s Faraday bag unless I really must.
However anything one does in an attempt to remain private will instantly get one put on the the subversives “list”.
“Text is the way we talk.”
This is a constant irritation in my home! My wife will txt rather than call. I will answer a voice call if I can do so safely on loudspeaker but refuse to read or respond to txt while traveling. I may end up getting a smartfone so I can have it respond to txt with a canned message.
This phone does not accept or respond to txt mssg. Call me if you want a response.
An interesting thought occurred to me. What if this is one faction of the globalist elite tribe flexing over another faction? Indirect bragging from Israeli leftists to attemptto intimidate US leftists? This group is not as unified as they present themselves. When the geezer tier of leadership kicks off there will be infighting and there is our point of exploitation. Is this part of incestual fighting?
Is there such a nincompoop who still believes privacy exists? Let’s Do It (Let’s Fall In Love)Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald
Birds do it, bees do it
Even educated fleas do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
In Spain, the best upper sets do it
Lithuanians and Letts do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
The Dutch in old Amsterdam do it
Not to mention the Fins
Folks in Siam do it – think of Siamese twins
Some Argentines, without means, do it
People say in Boston even beans do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
Romantic sponges, they say, do it
Oysters down in oyster bay do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
Cold Cape Cod clams, ‘gainst their wish, do it
Even lazy jellyfish, do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
Electric eels, I might add, do it
Though it shocks, em I know
Why ask if shad do it
Waiter bring me “Shad roe”
In shallow shoals English soles do it
Goldfish in the privacy of bowls do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
The chimpanzees in the zoos do it
Some courageous kangaroos do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
I’m sure giraffes on the sly do it
Heavy hipopotamus do it
Ooh, let’s do it, let’s fall in love
Oh, sloths who hang down from twigs do it
Though the effort is great
Sweet guinea pigs do it
Buy a couple and wait
The world admits bears in pits do it
Even Pekin geeses at the Ritz do it
Let’s do it, let’s just fall in love
That’s why birds do it…
The dragonflies in the reet do it
Sentimental centypedes do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love
Mosquitos, heaven forbid…
In shallow shows, english souls do it
Goldfish in the privacy of bowls do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall…
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“The 5 Eyes” from the British Empire seem strangely in the Grip of the Chicom NWO “Model”.
But, then the USSA is ruled by the JoBama Coup so to quote Madame Clintoon, “WTF at this point Difference Does it Make?”
But, but Repub Roll-Overs will set things right again in 2022 sElections. Just ask Boehner-Ryan-McCarthy-McConnell.
But, but ….. “Why” is Trump pushing the Killer NWO Vaxxxes??? Anyone???
I believe it’s because he still thinks they’re actual vaccines. And for the most part they are. I don’t think they’ve been engineered to do anything specific there wasn’t time for that the danger in the new vaccines is that they were new and are using new technologies that haven’t been proven over time and they were rushed into being. That is why they’re more dangerous to certain groups then the disease itself
Ordinarily I would agree greed and incompatence are the root cuase of this debacle.
However the Chinese have stated they think they can engineer a “vaccine” to target specific geneotypes. For the purpose of exterminating said geneotypes? Also there are serious people stating the USA unleashed this in China because China is rapidly overshadowing the USA hence the recent highly aggressive moves of the Chinese military.
Again a I ask given what we have leaned the past few years is there any evil that cannot be contemplated?
Sadly, Trump drank the poison. Immediately.
He stopped flights from China, but did not stop the Trump Coup tool, the Covid Scam virus.
Like a fly to flypaper, 1 foot on the Covid glue, and the more you wriggle, the stucker you get.
I don’t have a cellphone. Been established here so its not worth going into why except to say 9/11 calls. Anyway I don’t understand a lot of the new stuff out there. For instance, I am told that there are conservative sites, however, they won’t let me post without a cellphone. I could be wrong, please see sentence two, the use of the cellphone requires that I get an app from the google store. Isn’t that a ‘don’t use liberal sites but use liberal tracking devices’?
Who’d like to bet the Israelis wouldn’t put a back door in the software so Aman and Mossad can listen in?
But, hey, they’re our ‘special friends’ (TM) and wouldn’t do that to us … would they?
more of same at https://nexttobagend.blogspot.com/2020/08/with-friends-like-these.html
to quote Get Smart – “oh it’s the old cheap art selling trick.” cheap art, bad Hunter art – it doesn’t matter. if it works, do it.
We have a cell phone, an android to be exact, for emergency use on the road. We assume anything and everything we say is recorded by the damn thing and use the same rule we use to the internet. If you don’t want it to appear on a billboard on Main street don’t say it on line. If you don’t want to be manipulated, get off any and all social media connected to Facebook or Google. Even something as simple as a “free” solitaire game comes loaded with spyware and manipulative advertising. Just accept that reality. Plus accept the thing is always tracking you. I know our government said we aren’t being tracked as to location via our cell phones but I know of several instances during the lockdowns when local folks reported they got called on their cell phone and official types asked why they were not at home and demanded they return home immediately. Once you accept that, it’s a lot easier to live with the things.
This post you did is enough for Joe Biden to pit your whole family in a re-education camp.
The point isn’t the spying. It’s that your rulers have accomplished getting this system in place via us walking the tools into our own lives.
It would have to be Trudeau but I suspect it applies down south too.
I find it very interesting how the leftist are exposing this and the leftists hate Jews and Israel. As if there isn’t enough Jew hate in the left already.
This might help answer.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/exclusive-fake-news-strikes-guardian-wapo-soros-media-concoct-flimsy-story-attack-orban-modi-patriotic-governments/
Sure sounds like The Guardian piece is a hit job! It will be interesting to see their other “targets” as more installments of their “disinformation campaign” drop…
The big question that needs to be answered is: How to we get this shut-down (by this I mean the NSA)?
We know the “Courts” are too scared, politicians are too bought, what will it take to get our freedom back?
One state must demand 4th amendment violations end, and SUE to get the definition of EFFECTS restated LOUDLY that it includes your devices and e-property.
Then prosecute. Force them to comply or relocate, and let seize their cell towers, reconfigure them to skelton and auction them off to locals.
The State AG can allow signal jamming for those illegally run towers/etc…
Their capacity for selective outrage is unlimited. Remember Jack Dorsey clutching his pearls over foreign governments censoring the political opposition’s social media? Oh, how eloquently he spoke about the sanctity of free speech and especially political speech.
I wonder how many trusted peopled and fed employees around PDJT told him how great having a rally on 1/6 would be. This gave them a list of people who are willing to mobilize.
Fear when nothing is to be feared.
Outsmarted and tricked into hiding in home and avoiding certain topics.
Taught that making your voices heard is illegal.
Boy or boy are we close to death or an awakening
I doubt the hiding because PDJT has had rallies and lots of people show up. That is how we should continue. Power in numbers.
When one sees the ‘Suspected Pegasus Infections’ intensity map, it’s interesting that no infections are shown for for China (or Russia).
Why is that? The Guardian article says little about PRC although most of the IPhones & many Androids are manufactured there.
China doesn’t care about the Israeli product – or doesn’t need it?
But if Apple knew their finished product or manufacturing process was being corrupted, wouldn’t they be pretty concerned?
Yes- blame the software, but could a nascent code infection be there since assembly?
Always was always will be a manufacturers back door ….So Yeah its only private until that backdoor is left open or the keys are passed out to the club…. Its a big club and WE aint in it.
Question one. Does this mean having a vpn installed on my cell phone is not a luxury but a must! Question two. Does this create a market for a case that is lead lined to carry your phone in when going about your day? Question three. Can someone develop a software system that works with a vpn to ping signals around the world with false information to blow up their system and render it useless?
Time to throw those smart ass phones into the nearest lake. Get an old folks style phone, one that will only do the stuff you need a phone for. This situation is much worse than Internet mining, because you can’t do even one damned thing about it. All phone service providers use the same same providing network of cell towers as well as the few actual manufacturers that make all of the world’s cell phones. In other words, this particular Pandora’s box was opened a long time ago, during the development phase of cellular technologies. Time to stop using your cell phones as pocket computers that you cannot make secure at all.
Then should the suits be brought against the tower companies for allowing illegal operations to be carried out on their equipment. American Tower is the big one and maybe we stop investing in them, demand the mutual funds stop investing in them. Call out the ceo and board members. They have esg funds maybe we start America first funds for people and companies to invest in.
It’s turned into just another CRIMINAL demorat institution that works against the American people. The leadership should all be prosecuted…where is the “R” lawfare?
The FBI is influenced by foreign Intel agencies.
This is a huge problem as FBI was set up for Domestic operations.
Given Trump Russia investigation and use of foreigners there by FBI, one cannot assume our Intel is not their Intel.
FBI needs to be downsized and it’s foreign scope eliminated.
When I’m at home, I play a lot of conservative talk radio on my iPad. I place my cell phone underneath the iPad so whoever is listening is getting an earful of conservative speech all day long! The iPad covers my phone so it blocks the imbedded cameras from watching me. I also bought a bunch of black Camera Dots/Webcam Covers which can be placed over the view lens of the camera openings on electronic devices like computers, phones, iPads. They are sticky and peel off if you want to use the camera.
I have started leaving my smart phone at home when I go shopping. While paying for my purchases one day, I thought: “Ha! Nobody knows I’m here!” That would have been true had I paid with cash instead of a credit card which tracks my every purchase! Plus, my car came equipped with OnStar. Even though I no longer subscribe to it, all I have to do is talk out loud while driving and they can start it up again. OnStar can be called if you’ve been in a crash and they can use GPS to locate your vehicle.
Snowden’s take…
Why would I trust news released by the leftist Guardian from a leak and supported by Amnesty International? This looks like an attempt by the left to undermine opposition.
Citizens Lab, Toronto, deeply involved in research of NSO (Pegasus) operations, maintains a curious list of financial supporters, including among others the Ford Foundation, the Hewlitt Foundation, the Hopewell Fund and the Oak Foundation all players in the familiar and hopelessly entangled web of financial partnerships focused on driving socio-political change activities everywhere.
U of T’s Citizen Lab reaches out to academics targeted by spyware | University Affairs
Everyone overlooks the obvious here. Corporate spying is the real ticket to this.
The rouge agencies use to fund themselves via drug cartels. Now they simply use shell companies and insider trading data to fund run amuck programs without oversight.
Using legit business transactions sure makes buying out of nay sayers a lot easier!!!
Narus
Verint Systems
Spying on DC and the White House back in 2018
Now this NSO company.
Eventually people will wake up and realize they’ve been played for far too long.
There are probably 200M+ cell phones in the US and 81M+ of us voted for Trump. They have so much information they don’t know what to do with it, but if they’re looking for you they can find you. As long as you don’t sit in Pelosi’s office or get your picture taken sitting in the House chamber you’re probably going to be ok. There are so many people at a Trump rally that unless you’re really over the top enthusiastic the NSA probably doesn’t care. Remember, there are more of us than them. Just don’t do stupid stuff.
Got rid of my cell phone years ago.