Gee, who woulda thunk? A couple of data points to highlight the construct of something we have predicted for a year. Those who control the illusion of choice within each club, RNC and DNC, have always looked to be constructing a 2024 outcome where Gavin Newsom competes against Ron DeSantis.
First, California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom has recently set up a Political Action Committee (PAC) and a Super PAC that would seemingly support the perspective of his presidential ambitions.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Gavin Newsom is taking fundraising steps often used by potential presidential candidates, setting up multiple committees that in their first three months have raised and spent millions of dollars.
The three Newsom-affiliated committees are a political action committee, which limits contributions to $5,000 a year and can donate to individual candidates; a SuperPAC, which can raise unlimited amounts of cash but is restricted from promoting a specific candidate, and a joint fundraising committee, which functions like a bank, mostly collecting and distributing funds to the other groups. (more)
One day later, Ron DeSantis announces on the Moudoch news channel, using the mockingbird broadcaster, that he is willing to debate Gavin Newsom this November. Notice the states, and you will easily be able to guess which one will be selected for the venue.
(Via Politico) – Govs. Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom have tentatively agreed to debate — one hosted by Fox News.
The Florida Republican and California Democrat have repeatedly sparred over policies in their respective states, each representing one side of the ideological spectrum though occupying different political perches. DeSantis, a Republican, is trailing former President Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination while Newsom, a Democrat, has brushed aside questions about his own presidential ambitions to become a super surrogate of sorts for President Joe Biden.
A showdown between the two seemed unlikely as DeSantis ramped up his presidential campaign. But Newsom still has spent months trying to entice his counterpart into joining him on a stage.
On Wednesday, DeSantis agreed, telling Fox News’ Sean Hannity: “Absolutely I’m game. Just tell me when and where.”
An aide to Newsom told POLITICO that the governor was also in. Newsom’s office had sent a formal request offer to Fox News last week with proposed debate dates of Nov. 8 or Nov. 10. That request called for Hannity to serve as the sole moderator for a 90-minute forum on Fox News that would not include an in-studio audience and would air live.
[…] In his letter, Newsom’s office proposed three separate debate sights: Nevada, Georgia or North Carolina. (more)
Those who control the illusion of choice have to proceed with the planning as if the objective to remove candidate Donald Trump will succeed.
That sets up Joe Biden to announce withdrawal due to medical issues.
The state they will choose for this GN -v- RD debate venue is easy, Georgia.
Nothing is a coincidence.
Throughout our analysis of the preferred ’24 outcome by those in the background who ultimately seek to control elections through the activity of front men, those artfully skilled at presenting the illusion of choice, it has always looked like the RNC/DNC preferred presentation was a Ron DeSantis -v- Gavin Newsom (win/win) contest.
The landscape of the ’24 election would then be reduced to “social issues” as distinctions between the two faces of the contest, while the economics of things – the substantive part – carries a far lesser contrast. An almost identical replay to the attempted 2016 construct of Hillary -v- Jeb.
In 2016, the RNC/DNC corporations wanted a Hillary v Jeb matchup. That was the outcome of both corporate intents, and all processes were deployed to create that outcome. For 2024, it became obvious last year the corporations wanted a Newsom v DeSantis contest. In that matchup the people who control the financial mechanisms can maintain their status quo. The billionaire funders for DeSantis, RGA/RNC would be quite okay with a Newsom outcome.
America…..Here are your choices. Honestly no idea if this is just an attempt to throw Trump off his game or a literal attempt to supplant this crap into the minds of the public? Have to assume its probably both. Who wants to watch 2 men like this debate?
“Great news conservatives, although DT won’t be available because of legal issues fear not. We have the ultra conservative RDS stepping up. Perhaps if he wins he can even pardon that criminal DJT.”
I don’t want to go all Q nuts but I do have to think DT anticipated all this shit. I say that with hesitation though because looking back to 2020 it seems a lot of stuff was missed. Hindsight 20/20 perhaps but we also knew when the states like PA started changing rules illegally all hell was going to break loose. To my recollection, it was many of you Treepers who complained about using covid to enact mass mail in ballots so the Left could rig it. It was me who told you not to worry as people like Trump would be wise to it.
And He probably was but his nativity was trusting people like Pence. Again I was fooled by that sack of shit too. I also think 2020 was a baptism by fire for Donald Trump too. The people he had helped get elected along with dirtbags in the MIC/Intel/St Dept stabbed him in the back. NONE of the R’s can be trusted period. Maybe some of these people like Luna can be but not many others.
Welp Donald Trump now knows the very essence of treachery. Maybe he did before, but you can bet your ass he does now. This makes me sick all over again but all is not lost. In fact, there is very much to be excited about as long as you just want to see the traitors suffer. That would be me. They are going to meet their fate in the end. I don’t mean that from a spiritual angle so much. AND ITS SO GODDAMN IRONIC…..ONLY PERSON THAT CAN STOP THE HEMMORAGING is the man they HATE the MOST!!
And we should all Have some faith in that ;)…..Love you guys keep the faith 🙂
Please refrain from using God’s name in vain.
And this is your issue????
Yes because of my deep abiding love for Our Lord I will always defend the honor we owe Him.
Not everything is about you.
Yes, most definitely! Respect God above all.
Yes. No place for that here.
Shut up. Get off your high horse.
Please refrain from using God’s name.
( in vain.) ??
ck your bible.
he did not curse GOD.
if I was Pregar I could explain it better.
Do you really think any one of the combatants would Pardon President Trump
They will surround themselves with never Trump and they all want to be loved.
Wanting to be loved? I don’t think so. Wanting a share of the trough for their own power-yes.
Oh goody, Drag Queen Story hour!!
I can actually “see” Dem operatives meeting with Rep operatives and coming up with this “great idea” to show the American people that here are 2 viable candidates, other than President Donald J. Trump…and all that goes with them and against “Him” the “insurrectionist”!
See, we can find a better world with either Gavin or Ron.
Anything is possible folks.
One valuable lesson I learned, while working in politics, the crazier the idea, the more likely it is to happen (or try to happen) in politics.
So, don’t be shocked at anything now.
We have crossed the Rubicon..AND it was all planned….
But we will win..
Creepy v Creepier
It shows that Newsom and his people are very savvy–here he is, not even running for the Presidency while Biden still claims HE is running, yet Newsom gets a debate and gets one with the presumptive choice of the opposing PARTY LEADERS and the owner of the network that televises the debate.
How screwy is all this.
All the rules out the window now, all of ’em.
And Newsom, despite being unpopular with people on the right, has a certain charisma, and is telegenic.
DeSantis is wooden, awkward, robotic, very short, and is often too squinty when he is answering questions on camera. And he repeats the same phrase like – the bottom line is – or – at the end of the day – just like Biden. He’s not a good debater.
A televised match-up like this will not help DeSantis. It will only make him less appealing by comparison.
I find nothing charismatic about Newsome. Never did even when he first came on the scene years ago. He seemed a greasy-haired phony to me. But anyone who voted for Biden I suppose would vote for Newsome.
I won’t be watching any debate though. That’s a waste of the time God has given me here on this earth.
San Francisco is becoming a ghost town.
When ghouls run things, that’s what happens.
used car salesman vibe
Kimberly Guilfoyle married him. lol
the only debate will be who snorted more you-know-what backstage
They will have to implore him to run for the good of the party and the nation, and he will step forward to altruistically accept this burden from the faltering leader of his party. Henceforth known as Gavin the Good (books for purchase in the lobby). As soon as the Hollywood strike is over, we can get this campaign on a roll. Crazy times upon us! lol
So, what happens if everyone just laughs and ignores these two out of existence? Because right now I can’t see anyone taking either of them seriously. President Trump keeps attention on himself, pretty much by existing. These two, who’s going to pay any attention?
Globalist Candidate A
Globalist Candidate B
Heads we win, tails you lose.
You mean heads we lose, tails we lose.
The Republican National Committee will not allow Trump on the ballot despite Trump receiving overwhelming republican support. Now that the phony criminal charges, have only increased support for Trump, the Democrats are counting on their Uni-party friends in the RNC to use these phony criminal charges as an excuse to unlawfully remove Trump from the ballot. Pence along with other never MAGA republican leaders are laying the ground work for the RNC to stop Trump from being the Republican Party Candidate for 2024.
If so, then my response is: Time to Become Ungovernable.
It’s past that time. I’m surprised people really think they will let Trump back in the White House
Have hung up on the RNC 4-5 times this week. Finally told them why. Do not think they will call me again
What a gag.
Slick was running ads in FL last year against Meatball, the so called marriage made in hell for America has been in the works for quite sometime.
Hannity the King Maker…bwahahaha!
Thank you for the reminder. 👍
Biden didn’t bother with campaigning in 2020. Hobbs didn’t bother with Lake last year. Now DeSantis is not bothering with Trump and instead is looking past him to Newsom.
They are telling us again what they’re up to. I have this horrible feeling the illusion of choice is us thinking Trump is one.
we should have learned from the last election
how stupid are we to think things will have changed
The puppet controls two marionettes. Ha ha ha.
Yeah no. 80 million MAGA voters won’t play along. They will stay home. They know this which means Gavin will be POTUS.
Yep.
Also, Meatball Ron deserves to be humiliated nationally if he somehow manages to secure the nomination by getting PDJT off the ballot somehow. If they do that, the country’s over anyway. Not even sure we can recover from all the stuff of the past 7 years.
He deserves to be humiliated nationally even if he doesn’t. He’s just a big loser. An embarrassment to the GOP.
Massive write-in campaign!
It worked for Senator Murky in Alaska.
how do you write in a machine ballot?
also, anyone with 1, 2, 3 on what ungovernable looks like?
No we won’t stay home. We will demand our choice and will write Donald Trump’s name in if necessary.
Nobody knows what this will do, but do not underestimate 90 minutes of free primetime TV.
It would be funny if Tucker interviewed Putin opposite this time slot.
Is this real or AI generated?
Their hands look normal, so likely real.
Great idea! Or even if Tucker interviewed Boris Johnson to ask some real questions like why he screwed up the peace talks.
On purpose.
I’d like to see Putin and John Kerry reunite as the Righteous Brothers and sing “(You’ve lost that)Lovin Feeling”
Dang that was funny. Can’t unsee it!
WOW! Not bad !
What a joke. Neither of these “candidates” is popular within their own parties. Trump and RFK should counter with a debate of their own.
Would Tucker feature that?
Preferably at the same time as the DeSantis Newsom debate. At the very least, Trump should hold a rally at the same time.
another Sundance bullseye, and haven’t even yet got past the headline
prognosticator extraordinaire that Sundance…
DeSanctimonious must really be desperate to agree to debate Governor Nuisance. What a pair of losers.
This is the inner club approved candidates.
Gavin Newsome debating Ron DeSantis: this just might be the best comedy show recorded in years.
Gavin Newsome, Governor of the soon to be failed state of California running for President of the US? I admit, am having very cruel thoughts about this human tonight.
He has the “BEST TEETH” money can buy, all paid for (I imagine) by the citizens of California. I also don’t like his greasy hair. None of my personal peccadillos about him matter.
Long ago and so far away it seems, one teacher in grad school said something like ” California is the state with policies where, eventually, all others will follow. California is the exemplar.” I’ve since learned that my Professor who said those words is a nut job too.
Gavin Newsome is a damaged product of his own making. I will never forget how he partied at a restaurant during CCP lockdowns. Folks around here, in my community, t put up signs making him fun of hi
I want a ticket to the Gruesome and DE Sanctimonious debate. And I really wish George Carlin was alive to give his comment on the event. No mercy. They two clowns don’t deserve any.
Peace All.
In the top photo:
Greasy and Meatball
The Greaseball vs. the Meatball…they could easily be taken down by the Wrecking Ball (VSGPDJT)!
In a fair fight, which will never happen.
I think like many here that Newsom doesn’t make political sense in a General Election -at all! Likewise, as others have also pointed out, it won’t matter much if/when the fraud machine is allowed to run full-force. At half-capacity and with God’s Grace, we may stand a chance. But that chance will still rely heavily on our resolve. I think that resolve must be to get nasty. Demolition style nasty in this case could look something like wiping out the RNC entirely. And not just for threats and giggles (and to scare them into submission).
Seriously. Why wouldn’t We the MAGA People, just start setting up local PACs and steering committees all across this great Country ourselves? I can see we’re pretty primed for it right about now. It’d be so EZ to starve them of their small-dollar Party donations. Even easier to push many big donors our way. Push or be pushed. That’s how I see politics today.
I can guess it will be Georgia without even reading.
Also at first read I though it said the Moloch network. Perhaps fitting.
Finally, Super PACs and PACs altoegher should be outlawed.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO…
I just escape this SOB.
NO NO NO!
Sundance,
Tell us how this election will end. You are always correct and have the ability to share what will happen. Who will be in the White House in 2025?
Newsome, he is Nancy’s nephew after all..Auntie Nan wants back into power she
played her part in helping get rid of Trump..
I think I have to go watch paint dry on dates of Nov. 8 or Nov. 10.
The paint never dries on stupidity.
– G Murphy Donovan
That seems a bit presumptuous of Top Gov Loser.
These ‘want to be’ fakes will be revealed for who and what they really are, snakes in the woodpile. Neither one of these highjackers can hold a candle to Trump.
Uniparty corruption continues as usual.
I have not given up hope Trump will win.
The devils in DC, Florida and California can be stopped.
Miracles do happen.👀
🙏🏻
The good news is that it seems obvious the DNC is getting ready to heave overboard the crooked, demented pervert, Joe Biden. Hopefully he will soon become a memory. The bad news is that they are beginning the process of rigging the election to make Gavin Newsom the new Tin-Pot Dictator to take over for the Biden Crime Family. So we would have the Pelosi Crime Family in office instead if they succeed at their evil scheme. It would be a catastrophe for our country.
Those of you who do not live in CA cannot even imagine how we have suffered here under Gavin Newsom. Keep in mind this man has PROVEN that the US Constitution and the Supreme Court mean JACK SQUAT to him. Look at how he defied federal laws when Trump was POTUS and set up “Sanctuary Cities” to continue to do what he pleased. Even after the Supreme Court ruled that it was illegal for Newsom to force churches to be closed, Newsom continued to persecute churches that were open. One church in our county is still facing over $3 million in fines for this. The county ordered surveillance of church members and spied on them using the congregant’s own cell phones. They asked the church office for a list of their members but were refused. At one point they were considering jailing the pastor. The church’s bank tried to de-bank the church but backed down when the church’s chain of sister churches across the country threatened to close all of their accounts at this bank if they did that.
We no longer have free elections in CA in case you are wondering how this demonic creature beat his Recall vote. Yes, there are also a large number of “Useful Idiot” Zombies roaming the streets who don’t know what gender they are, much less anything else, and also quite a number of hard core Communists, so that doesn’t help. Keep in mind people were receiving mail-in ballots all over the country for this recall and subsequent election even though they had moved away from CA many years ago. Many reported getting more than one ballot. The Democrat Crime Syndicate has a super-majority in CA, which means THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT with zero opposition to stop them. It is a Totalitarian state. What was THE FIRST THING Newsom did as soon as he got re-elected in November 2022? He cemented all of the known election fraud schemes into our state election protocols, effective Jan 1, 2023. These Democrats are radical Communists and they are actively trying to destroy society and create anarchy & chaos, where criminals are allowed to roam free to prey on citizens who are banned from the means of protecting themselves & their families and they soak working citizens for every last nickel they can.
Newsom locked down CA for almost 3 years during the pandemic, which was significantly longer than any state in the country. Only just a few months ago we were taken out of our “State of Emergency” status. Our covid casualties were no better than anyone else’s. There were widespread requirements for vaccine passports to participate in society. Newsom’s policies destroyed a large percentage of small businesses, many in national historic landmark areas or that had existed for over 80 years. He destroyed an untold number of people’s livelihoods and careers. Many thousands of people have lost their jobs or have been forbidden schooling for not complying with the state’s vaccine mandates, which are ongoing, even though the serious, sometimes fatal adverse reactions to these dangerous experimental drugs are becoming more known. Newsom destroyed our schools, our students, many of whom are actively suicidal now or have other mental health issues, with insufficient services to care for them. He destroyed our healthcare system, which is teetering on the brink of collapse. Our borders are wide open and he’s flooded the state with indigents who now get free healthcare, free college, and free housing. Homelessness has skyrocketed and they’re moving homeless camps into middle class suburban neighborhoods. Meanwhile the state’s infrastructure is crumbling and the roads are in a state of disrepair.
And he’s NOT DONE. Families, medical professionals, businesses, and wealthy/middle class taxpayers have been fleeing the state in droves to escape his INSANE maniacal tyranny and the Democrat’s stupidity and economic socialism. Taxes are sky high. They have completely destroyed the CA economy which now is deeply in the red with an unemployment system that is insolvent. CA asks to borrow money from the Feds all the time to stay afloat. Crime is skyrocketing. You’ve all seen the news of how looting is not prosecuted now, nor robbery or car break-ins. Our local mayor admitted that the state is putting pressure on the local DA’s to not prosecute criminals. Many people are becoming afraid to leave their homes, and stores are closing up shop and leaving. The looting is not just in the cities. It is also in the suburbs now.
Gavin Newsom as POTUS would quickly turn our magnificent country into a living Hell, make no mistake about it. He and his Democrat supermajority have destroyed the beautiful state of CA. If he succeeds at getting elected, this will be the fate of the entire US.
Thanks for the insight Just saying.
I was lying in bed at 4:30 am reading the treehouse while trying to understand why I am unable to ever get a good night sleep .
Your post has gone a long way to answer that question for me.
The loss I feel due to the destruction of our country is overwhelming.
How is it that most of my fellow citizens in New Jersey do not care and sleep like babies ?
My God given ability to see things for what they are lead me to Know ,the night of the 2020 election ,we lost our country..
Since then I also knew that our only way to get it back was by the re-election of D.J.T.
I also know that even if re-elected that recovery was far from a surety.
The return on investment on the vast amount of monies corrupted actors are willing and able to invest is astronomical.
The deep state will stop at nothing . They must be physically stopped by whatever means is necessary.
They sure don’t ever intend to stop their corruption.
I fear Are we going to be turned into a country full of poor saps ,ruled by the scum of the earth, leaching off of us while they live in the lap of luxury.
Tonight I cannot bring myself to write what that God given ability is telling me is in store for us.
God help us .
The scum do not sleep well. DJT and TDS causes them to shiver and shake. your restless sleep is better .
Our country is already a living hell.
Corrupt people deserve a corrupt government.
I’m very sorry for what you and yours are going thru.
I pray the the Lord will have mercy on you and guide you as to what to do.
As far as my thoughts, please consider relocating out of there.
Someone should make a campaign ad from this post.
Wow, thanks for the update. TGP has some articles about Gruesome & CA, but nothing like a resident’s personal experience. I used to live in Santa Barbara (for over 20 yrs) & moved away in 2009. My inner voice/intuition was getting louder & louder & more insistent on getting out. So relieved I did, also very relieved to have left Portland, OR in May 2021. I saw the same thing happening there although the “peaceful protests” (such a flaming lie, they were riots!!!) weren’t a thing in CA back then. Lots of fires were getting bigger & bigger as well as an economy that was imploding, which is even worse now….
🤮🤢
Gavin Newsom = Nancy Pelosi 2.0
I don’t see how the GOP survives this election cycle. Voters aren’t sending checks because even normies have lost trust. Big donors are focused only on the Pres election and removing Trump.
The RNC is supposedly broke and not helping state parties to build infrastructure to support candidates. Every move they make is increasingly desperate and not subtle, but they do it anyway…that animal instinct to fight back.
The GOP is dying. Either Trump will finish it off or MAGA will leave it. I will never vote for a RINO again.
I am with you 100%
when they have the money to support Repub candidates, they fund the wrong ones, those that are rino
who cares? 🙂
This also displays the corruption of Hannity. He totally displays his true colors by this offer.
In light of this development I will be very disappointed if President Trump agrees to participate in the Fox debate.
This is a tell alerting us a, and I hope Trump ,as to how the so called fox presidential primary debate will play out.
if he were to participate in the debate, it would just be an opportunity for the others including the moderator to ridicule, ignore, make false statements etc about him. I think he is too smart to let that happen.
I hope you are correct, and I pray for him to seek wisdom from God to make a good decision.
MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
To my knowledge, not a single candidate from either party (of course with the exception of President Trump) will admit in public that the 2020 election was stolen. With the brazen Crime of the Century not even being acknowledged (!!!) what shred of trust could we ever place in any of them (looking at you Vivek)?
Looks like it will be a spaghetti and meatball kind of night
Those two are Freeze Dried fools. Not one tsp of liquid or a microwave can be found that could bring those two back to life. What a sham is being planned for 2024.
Gavin Newsom strikes me as America’s answer to Justin Trudeau.
God help you then. We had Castro’s son installed as out PM. Eight years to destroy our once free Nation.
Just so the clubs know, I won’t be voting for either.
Both are not for America,
Trump can only better for country,Trump is not politician is a Businessman,
Trump 2024,
We live in a schiff hole country. The elected politicians need two be inmates in the Colorado super max.
Immediately. All of them.
Lolololol.
Who in the world at Fox actually thinks anyone would tune in to hear a pair of greasy meatballs argue with each other and lie to the audience for 90 minutes?
I can smell the desperation from here.
The memes are writing themselves already. 🤣
THIS was planned by DNC to drop BUBBLE BRAIN BIDEN
Newsom and DeSantis have been fueding, the DNC saw their opportunity to DROP BIDEN
Sundance….hits the bullseye yet again.
Deepstate……top picks.
2 well oiled snake salesmen.
To reiterate a portion from my comment on page 2 of the preceding CTH post regarding Mike Pence:
“Outside in the distance (the future),
A wildcat (our Lion) did it growl,
Two riders (Meatball & Von Hairgel) we’re approaching,
And the wind (Storm) began to howl.”
Sometimes the timing is just too uncanny!
Red flag moment was Jesse Waters saying DJT may have or actually did push it to far, after the charges against T were finally released the other day.
He pretended to be supporting and defending him, while wedging that into his monologue. It was fake, deliberate and disgusting, but these sell outs, Hannity included, have a job, to tenderize us for what’s coming ie they are flat out telling us what the Plan is.
Of all the charges, the one Jesse said he was guilty of is the one they plan on making stick, even if he’s not guilty or it’s not legally responsible to convict.
I’m actually looking forward to a Hannity debate w the two props on Fox, it will be a culmination of fakery like the world has never seen. Beyond WWF, they don’t dare let in an audience to boo them. So against a quiet background, all stiff and staged, let the world see its all just a show.
Greaseball + Meatball = Greasy lying Meatballs…Clean up on We the People aisle.
Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
If you consider what the Left controls, and you acknowledge that they control every institution of government and society, you will then further acknowledge that the outcome of 2024, unless it is canceled altogether, is already decided. Voter rolls have not been cleaned up, mail in voting is still accommodated, verification of signatures is still corrupted, control of election machinery is still in the hands of dishonest secretary’s’ of state in every swing state, i.e., PA, AZ, MI, WI, GA. There is no credible pathway to victory under these pre-arranged circumstances. Sure, we will win in a fair election, but it will not be fair. It’s like being forced to play a hockey game without skates against a team who does.
Time for GA MAGAdonians to throw some sand in the gears of the Georgia machine…
I have no doubt Sundance is spot on. However what will Harris get to keep her quiet. While she couldn’t get 5% of Democrats (2% of all voters) that 2% could cause chaos!!!
We (women of color) have been thrown under the bus by white men!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳