Gee, who woulda thunk? A couple of data points to highlight the construct of something we have predicted for a year. Those who control the illusion of choice within each club, RNC and DNC, have always looked to be constructing a 2024 outcome where Gavin Newsom competes against Ron DeSantis.
First, California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom has recently set up a Political Action Committee (PAC) and a Super PAC that would seemingly support the perspective of his presidential ambitions.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Gavin Newsom is taking fundraising steps often used by potential presidential candidates, setting up multiple committees that in their first three months have raised and spent millions of dollars.
The three Newsom-affiliated committees are a political action committee, which limits contributions to $5,000 a year and can donate to individual candidates; a SuperPAC, which can raise unlimited amounts of cash but is restricted from promoting a specific candidate, and a joint fundraising committee, which functions like a bank, mostly collecting and distributing funds to the other groups. (more)
One day later, Ron DeSantis announces on the Moudoch news channel, using the mockingbird broadcaster, that he is willing to debate Gavin Newsom this November. Notice the states, and you will easily be able to guess which one will be selected for the venue.
(Via Politico) – Govs. Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom have tentatively agreed to debate — one hosted by Fox News.
The Florida Republican and California Democrat have repeatedly sparred over policies in their respective states, each representing one side of the ideological spectrum though occupying different political perches. DeSantis, a Republican, is trailing former President Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination while Newsom, a Democrat, has brushed aside questions about his own presidential ambitions to become a super surrogate of sorts for President Joe Biden.
A showdown between the two seemed unlikely as DeSantis ramped up his presidential campaign. But Newsom still has spent months trying to entice his counterpart into joining him on a stage.
On Wednesday, DeSantis agreed, telling Fox News’ Sean Hannity: “Absolutely I’m game. Just tell me when and where.”
An aide to Newsom told POLITICO that the governor was also in. Newsom’s office had sent a formal request offer to Fox News last week with proposed debate dates of Nov. 8 or Nov. 10. That request called for Hannity to serve as the sole moderator for a 90-minute forum on Fox News that would not include an in-studio audience and would air live.
[…] In his letter, Newsom’s office proposed three separate debate sights: Nevada, Georgia or North Carolina. (more)
Those who control the illusion of choice have to proceed with the planning as if the objective to remove candidate Donald Trump will succeed.
That sets up Joe Biden to announce withdrawal due to medical issues.
The state they will choose for this GN -v- RD debate venue is easy, Georgia.
Nothing is a coincidence.
Throughout our analysis of the preferred ’24 outcome by those in the background who ultimately seek to control elections through the activity of front men, those artfully skilled at presenting the illusion of choice, it has always looked like the RNC/DNC preferred presentation was a Ron DeSantis -v- Gavin Newsom (win/win) contest.
The landscape of the ’24 election would then be reduced to “social issues” as distinctions between the two faces of the contest, while the economics of things – the substantive part – carries a far lesser contrast. An almost identical replay to the attempted 2016 construct of Hillary -v- Jeb.
In 2016, the RNC/DNC corporations wanted a Hillary v Jeb matchup. That was the outcome of both corporate intents, and all processes were deployed to create that outcome. For 2024, it became obvious last year the corporations wanted a Newsom v DeSantis contest. In that matchup the people who control the financial mechanisms can maintain their status quo. The billionaire funders for DeSantis, RGA/RNC would be quite okay with a Newsom outcome.
Some network thinks this is going to turn around their falling ratings? Hope they have a Plan B.
Plan B is the same as Plan A–BS.
Newsom banned official travel to Florida.
He thinks Florida gives people cooties.
Desantis has already knocked it out of the park at the Reagan Library in California. Newsom will be surprised how many GOP conservatives live in this state. At best Democrats only get 60% of the vote (mainly government employees). But a solid 40% are red to their core in this state.
“d”santos hasn’t knocked anything out of any park that I know of
DeSantis is dropping like a rock and FAUX NEWS is pulling out all stops to try and prop him up.
It’s not working.
Any commenter at this point talking about DeSantis knocking it out of the park has to seriously be considered a coordinated plant.
Agreed. This is what happens when too many states legalize marijuana.
Bingo!
A ShareBlue ROLCON or a FUX Snews NEO CON.
Agree 100%.
Oh no! I thought he said Deskunk had been knocked out in a park. 😁😁
I noticed that “Jaye’s” 8 upvotes all came from “guests”. Jaye probably has 9+ devices viewing CTH.
Yes BUT….that must be considered a compliment to Sundance & the Treehouse..
If CTH is attracting malign actors (trolls, RolCons) trying to affect readers’ opinion, that means the Anti-Trump/ Anti-MAGA coordinators must consider this site sufficiently important & influential to warrant their attempts to stir up discord..
“Desantis has already knocked it out of the park at the Reagan Library in California.”
LMAO
Tell us more.
“Jaye” must be new here. lol
Not new. But a predictable Ron! fan.
DeSantis is sliding down in the polls. Even Floridians don’t want him.
Since DeSantis can’t draw a crowd unless he crashes an event, they are talking about having SMALL “intimate gatherings” for him to take soft ball questions form a selected group of people. It’s that bad for DeSantis.
They want President Trump no only within the GOP but in the primary it is a slam dunk for President Trump.
Trump 2024
It will be a slam dunk for Donald Trump in ACTUAL VOTES.
Unfortunately, the ACTUAL VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED.
The uniparty swamp creatures are not stupid. They see the same polls that we do, and they know that Trump should win the 2024 PRIMARY & the GENERAL
Yet they ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR NEWSOM vs DESANTIS PLANS ?
WHY ?
Because they KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY RIGGED THE ELECTION RESULTS, AND THAT TRUMP DOESN’T HAVE A CHANCE.
The only thing DeSantis has knocked out of the park is his own popularity out of his own state. He’s MAGA like Newsom is even American–they are both swamp creatures, and the RNC and RINO donors will be quite happy with either imposter.
You’re delusional.
RDS couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn much less knock something out of the park.
Rob could hit the broadside of a barn IF you put him in front of one, 2steps away, inside a pig chute aimed at the broadside. Just maybe you’d need a pig prod to get him started.
California’s mail-in elections have been rigged for years. Newsom and the DNC have nothing to worry about on that front.
And Trump will get that 40% red vote.
Trump/MAGA for all the marbles, AGAIN.
MAGA doesn’t give a damn about Meatball!!!!!
Influence operations are futile!
CA is not loaded with GOP conservatives. The Valley, where conservatives do live, is OVERWHELMED by the millons who live in LA, Bay Area.
They could always stop the voting because of burst urinals or something, and then truck in gazillion fresh ballots for the creep of their choice
DeSantis could not even fill the Reagan Library. There were empty seats in a very small area. Trump probably won California in 2020 but those folks will not be voting for DeSantis.
Maybe not cooties, but there seems to be an uptick of Leprosy in FL
seems delusional
If they have a debate and nobody watches, did it really happen?
It’s the passing of the baton. De Sanctic is done.
These people are dreaming.
GAVIN NEWSOM HAS ALMOST ZERO NAME RECOGNITION OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA.
The idea that he could have ANY KIND of national appeal, is based on something I can’t quite glean.
A: Oballot Fraud.
I think you are the one dreaming. Reality doesn’t figure in when fraud is involved.
The value of coming from CA to a politician is the MONEY that flows to him.
There will be an unlimited source of it for Gavin Newsom.
No wonder US credit has been downgraded…
Zero name recognition is exactly what will allow the media to make him anything they want. Most Americans don’t know the disaster he created in Ca.
We will have two soulless empty suits running against each other.
Obama didn’t either
President Trump is going to CA in Sept.
If he didn’t think he has a shot at winning the state, he wouldn’t waste his time.
Californians are FED UP!
He comes here to attend fundraising in LA and Fresno.
Meatball vs Greaseball
I know, I know… low hanging fruit.
But very tasty!
Meatball vs Hairball
PERFECT!!!!!!!
Perhaps, but ripe indeed!
RINO Smell vs Hair Gel
Soy Boy RD vs. Damian von Hairgel. It sounds like a cheesy pro wrestling promotion. 😄😄😄
How about Meatball vs. Hairgel?
Two candidates from ‘different parties’ to debate each other before being declared nominees, much less the primaries starting.
What gall?
Uniparty message to John and Jane Q Public:
These are your ‘choices.’ Make a decision!
John and Jane Q Public’s response to the UniParty:
G F Y
Right on, Right Mover.
That’s putting it mildly.
I smell Karl Rove and Sean Vannity all over this.
Haha …you know what that means and you know what they’re doing of course. The good news is it won’t work; NOT NOW!
Wrote a comment on here earlier. Even if we lose “they” are NOT going to win. Staying alive just to watch it all go down is something I can’t pass up. Its like in initial lockdown 2020 I thought about checking out. Then I struck a deal with God to NEVER readily give up my life until the darkness responsible was destroyed. If that was/is not feasible it was conveyed to me to become an unruly pain in the ass to those f****.
Atta boy!
I’m confused. Aren’t they running like the Clintons did, where a vote for one gets you both? Remember, it’s a twofer?
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Gee, no one predicted this!
/s
“Those who control the illusion of choice have to proceed with the planning as if the objective to remove candidate Donald Trump will succeed.”
-SUNDANCE
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Delicious.
We can (and should) start mocking them relentlessly, then. After all, it is going so well, isn’t it?
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And they will mock you for believing it can’t happen.
A 2016 redo would be schadenfreude of the most exquisite order!
LOL
Well I’m NOT ok with Gavin Newsom OR Ron DeRINO – if GN is the Dems candidate my only choice would be to have hime debate the NEXT President which would be PDJT – we will accept no other! It’s PDJT or bust!!!
McCain vs. Obama.
Heads they win. Tails we lose.
(or Jeb! vs. the Hildebeast)
God they are egotistical jerks
The chosen ones, gag me. The hubris is strong in these jackwipes.
Nuisance looks like he’s sneaking out the back door, which is really what the little weasel is doing.
I hope PDJT schedules rallies during each of these debates, which are certain to draw tens of dozens.
Both men stand to benefit from this.
Unless one KOs the other, then he will double benefit.
Cage match 😆
Uniparty Deathmatch, where everyone wants them both to lose.
It should have Disneyesque ratings…
Disneyland vs Disney World.
We’ll they certainly couldn’t be more obvious about it. Difference is dem base will welcome Newsom, will not be the same for Desantis. He will likely still be in low double digits.
Repubs are just going to act like Trump doesn’t exist. I despise these POS’s.
That may well be the GOPe’s new plan. Nothing else has worked.
Well, until we fix the steal…this MAY end up being our choices. I still have yet to see ANY concrete evidence that we’re fixing the steal of 2016, 2020, 2022. Yes, I believe 2016 was stolen too but HRC didn’t believe THAT many people would vote for Pres Trump.
Add the 2018 midterms, particularly California.
Good observation though
Sorry for the flag :-( Just call me Fingers MeGee. We need to reposition the flag somewhere else.
Bless their hearts, the boys are gonna have their own little tea party
Note that they’re dressed like little men, not girls. That’s a positive..
Since 2020, the deal between the 2 factions of the Uniparty was this: we (the RINOs) won’t support Trump and will let you (the Dems) to take the White House but only with Biden; in exchange we get the White House in 2024 (not with Trump, of course). From 2020 to 2024, we will get rid of Trump and his people (see 2022).
So, if somehow Trump is taken out, a Republican will be President, likely RDS, maybe Scott. If Trump somehow survives the lawfare onslaught, Biden will run with someone other than Kamala as VP (he no longer needs her as an insurance policy). With the help of the Uniparty, he will steal it like in 2020. Unless Trump pulls another miracle.
You might be overthinking this. Bottom line of the uniparty goal here is to see their two candidates of equal worthlessness in the November election. Doesn’t matter one twit which one is elected, as they’re both fully owned and fully controlled. Federal government activities and policies will be exactly the same with either one in the White house. Only thing of any consequence that matters to the uniparty is to present to the public the illusion of choice during the (s)election.
👍exactly 💯 👏 🙌
Hannity’s CIA ass thinking he is a kingmaker.
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Then he should invite the other candidate he interviewed — RFK, Jr.
If Faux is ‘hosting’ this fiasco, and Hannity is one of the instigators, shouldn’t all his ‘he’s a good guy’ guests get a seat at the table, lest charges of bias be leveled?
I wouldn’t be surprised if those calling the shots get so desperate that they force the Dem nominee to create a “unity ticket” by picking a GOPe/RINO as a running mate.
For those new to CTH, be sure to follow the commentary by reading the archives!
This is an important link to this latest post: 👇
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/30/there-is-a-reason-ron-desantis-keeps-talking-about-georgia/
How do they get rid of Kamala? Push out Feinstein and offer Kamala a safe Senate seat?
You know that she was Senator prior to becoming VP.
if old Joe doesn’t fall over dead before the election (and they would probably just use a body double after that)
nothing has to be done about Kamala as far as President/VP nomination goes. She would go back to her
day job – and, a replacement for Feinstein looks like what they have planned.
Even a total idiot could beat Newsom … this is how desperate DeSantis and Faux news are to pimp DeSatan.
Even a total idiot could beat Newsom,
I wish you were right, but you are very wrong.
Now look who’s pretending not to know things, Newsom pretending RFKjr isn’t an announced Democrat candidate and the D-Sanctimonious pretending PDJT is not blocking his coronation.
Sadly, the press will go along with this pretending.
That sets up Joe Biden to
announce withdrawal due to medical issuesgo to prison.Unfortunately it’s never gonna happen, but still quite refreshing to share with you your optimism.
I know, but it felt go to write it.
Sounds like a Geek tragedy to me…….
Or…..They’re both Pee Wee Herman losers who sit in theaters…..
“I know I am but you are two.”
I do have a sickening feeling they will succeed in keeping PDJT off the ballot via lawfare.
In that case I sit on my hands and don’t vote for anyone, including down ballot races.
Write in President Trump if he is not on the ballot.
No. Better to abstain. They’ll just assume you voted for one of the Uniparty creatures if you write in someone.
That makes no sense.
I used to work on campaigns. The people analyzing the vote can see that you generally take a Republican ballot. If you vote in the general they will assume you voted for their Uniparty candidate. They would not get the message.
That’s the best course of action for me and me alone. Everyone else do what they feel best, writing in, abstaining. I would just hope that no one here would vote for the Uniparty candidate.
No they will produce a ballot for you and vote for who they want. All those who don’t vote get a shiny new ballot via fraud. So you vote whether you produce a ballot or not. If you vote you get to chose if you don’t they choose for you, your choice.
I will vote 3rd party in my state because we are not allowed to write in a candidate.
I will not let these demons take my unused ballot and cast a vote for EITHER SIDE of the Uniparty.
I have read–do not know if it’s correct, though–that write-in candidates are not counted in a POTUS election.
So if you aren’t sure, why say such a voter suppression kind of thing?
No you don’t sit on your hands!! We have a national write-in candidate campaign and “we the people” all write-in Donald Trump for president. Fixes that! Even if he went to jail he would not be the first candidate elected to office while serving time!
No. I have intellectually thought it through, not out of a fit of rage, that permanently abstaining is the best course of action for me. I’m not suggesting it for others.
I’ll vote against local referendums. That’s it.
No, you go vote. Or they’ll vote for you.
Write in Trump, vote for the down ballot people who are MAGA, leave the rest blank.
No. Abstaining is the best course of action for me.
And I’ll never vote for down ballot again, including 2024. Look at people like MTG, already becoming a bit of a weasel. Can’t trust them with a vote.
Thanks, Sundance for your research and insight. You have nailed this down.
Imposter DeSantis vs. Waterboy Newsom. A match made in 20 fathoms of swamp water.
“A match made in 20 fathoms of swamp water.”
Based on that photo I’d say more like 20 fathoms of Pennzoil High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30.
I’m going with the synthetic blend because everything about those two is not natural.
Likely that the debate will be rigged. Both want Trump out so Newsom will take a dive to help DeSros’ numbers. It’s all kabuki theatre.
Looking at those two photos I come to one conclusion;
separated at birth…………
Oh HELL no!
Newsom would thump DeSantis in an election.
He’s much looser than stiff Ron.
yes and sadly personality counts, Newsome is smooth
and slick and pretty.. DeSantis is stiff and no personality
No. Newsome is ugly as homemade sin.
De sanctimonious will probably throw the debate to Newsom just like Romney did in the second debate with OSCUMA. Never will forget that.
He won’t need to throw it.
This stupid idiot lost a debate to Charlie flipping Crist.
Let that sink in.
And Crist was in the race to take a dive and Ronda still lost the debate.
Are you kidding me?
Who in their right minds, with an IQ higher than their BMI, take time from their personal lives of happiness and routine (like cleaning their toenails) watch two MAROONS bark, bray and caw at one another?
Who would do that?
C’mon Man…
I hope President Trump gets indicted again; then we can have a good time at his next Rally…from Jail with the SS detail jiving!!!/Sarc. (for those of your in Rio-Lynda)..
Illusion of choice
These two play for the same team if you haven’t figured it out yet.
It’s the plan all the way: The gov of Ca v the gov of FL
The Dems already have blacks hating RDS over the “black history curriculum” controversy. The Dems are good at lying, as we know. They’ve created a controversy where none should exist. The black history curriculum in FL is a very good one, but ole Tim Scott doesn’t think so. Idiot. Coward.
Let’s pray this Newsom/RDS battle NEVER OCCURS.
As for the debate: perhaps RDS can land some punches against Newsom to make him weak for Trump
It would be funny if this turned out like the Ryan vs Biden debate for Rob
So the dems will dump a Black woman VP to replace her with a white man. Think they might piss off some of their identity politics base? And who would Newsom’s VP be? Mike Pence? (that’s a joke)
Susan Rice will be his VP
Yep, and THAT WILL get the blacks out to vote, unfortunately.
Were I Trump, I’d do what I heard some biggest supporters on War Room say, get thyself into black neighborhoods in the cities and talk to them.
I know black men like Trump…unless they work in Hollywood, that is.
I heard a few people on tv/radio say it might be the Dems are thinking of a Newsom-Harris ticket, giving Harris a face-saving spot, and trying to assuage the feelings of black women.
They wouldn’t be able to afford to give up all of California’s electoral votes. Heels Up Harris would have to relocate.
Spent any time talking to their identity politics base? They are 98% brain dead. They won’t be pissed off.
Newsome – cheated with his Best Friend’s Wife — said bestfriend was his Campaign Manager.
DeSanctus – couldn’t even beat a Drug Addled opponent without the help of Donald John Trump.
Such a debate is like a South Park Parody!
Marital cheating isn’t going to have one iota of an effect on the race, not unless the cheater makes a big deal about his loyalty to his wife.
That’s correct Martial Cheating won’t have one iota. That said CHARACTER will matter… it always matters.
These two dunder heads just prove Pres. Trump IS the superior candidate on ever level.
Yes, trying to create a new matchup. Before long, the meme will be Trump will be tied up with legal problems for years so how can he be president.
In other news, DS has had a head start in ruining his reputation/career.
Question, does anyone really think that the corrupticrats will allow President Trump in the WH, even if he gets 100M votes?
Barnum and Bailey,step right up,the greatest show on earth,hahaha
clowns
I have to laugh,or else……
Posted by Troublemaker10 earlier today….
The betting odds for DeS (plummeting) v Trump (soaring)
These two losers are going to debate among themselves?
I will only vote for President Trump, even if I have to write him in!
We all know Newsome is a train wreck who has driven many California residents to other states.
They think the threat of Newsome will get me to pull the lever for someone else if President Trump is not on the ballot.
Not happening. The GOP has proven time and again they are traitors. I really hate the Democrats but I just can’t vote for anyone else now.
Are Georgia Republican constituents really into the GOPe? I don’t understand how they have Georgia unless it is a continuation of the fraud that they did in 2020.
Groan….