Last night I participated in a conversation. This article is written as an outcome of that conversation, as requested by those who participated.
Essentially, the framework of the conversation, as I initially listened, is best described as a series of questions amid a group of smart intellectual types who are very understanding of the nature of our current situation.
In various forms they were asking each other the same question. What happened in the last several years that caused Democrats, leftists and the traditional political left to switch positions on their advocacy?
Liberalism literally went from railing against Big Govt, to embracing corrupt Big Govt. Why and how did this happen?
In short, it was the same line of questioning I have seen asked by Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard and various traditionally liberal people as well as people on the right side of the continuum.
Why and how did traditional liberalism so suddenly flip from being, big picture – ‘anti-government’, to suddenly embracing corrupt government enterprise, and supporting the intelligence apparatus, federal govt (writ large), institutional oppressive law enforcement and FBI etc.? What happened?
After listening to this conversation quietly, as I am prone to do, my remarks -with citations and examples- silenced the room.
At the conclusion of my remarks, everyone asked me if I had ever written about this, and if not – why not? I did not have an answer, so consider this a promise fulfilled. Perhaps you might find value.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, traditional leftists, media activists, left-wing community organizing agencies, Democrats, liberals, progressives, or whatever label you want to assign, essentially railed against the U.S. government and all that it represented. However, now, if you were to look at the issues from the 30,000-foot perspective, those same groups currently support the oppressive & weaponized system of government they formerly despised.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, those same groups had an approach of distrust toward government, and the media apparatus had a very distinct supportive and cynical outlook, favorable to the leftist anti-government perspective. Now, all of that has reversed – seemingly flipped.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, media pushed a one-way narrative in defense of those who were “targeted” by the institutions and mechanisms of government. As the activists railed against the regime, the media framed narratives to excuse the transparently guilty. Now, that entire dynamic has reversed. Now we see the media pushing a narrative in support of weaponized government targeting, and – here’s the kicker – framing the transparently innocent.
The activists went from accusing government of wrongdoing and defending the transparently guilty – to aligning with government, excusing government wrongdoing, and helping to attack the transparently innocent.
As some continue to say with jaw agape, WTF happened?
The answer “why” is not complicated…. not complicated at all.
In 2008, the ‘activists’ took control of government.
In January of 2009, the leftists, community organizers and activists took control of the systems they had opposed for the preceding 50+ years.
In January of 2009, and inflection point took place; an inflection point that no one realized in forethought, scale or consequence.
Starting in 2009, all of the systems of federal government were now under the control of the people who previously fought against the systems of federal government. Everything since is an outcome of that inflection point; that’s why everything flipped.
All of it, and I do mean every scintilla of the thing; every single granular detail and example you can put in front of me can be traced back to that moment when the activists were no longer outside government railing against the corrupt system they hated.
Starting in January of 2009, the activists took power over the United States government, and every outside institution, including media, necessarily and ideologically followed that inversion.
Starting in 2009, the systems and institutions of the U.S government now came under the control of the radical activists.
In the eight years that followed, the mission of every institution was changed. Government was weaponized on behalf of the leftist activists who now took control of it. Everything thereafter is a consequence of this change.
When I use the word “suddenly”, it is only for understanding the inflections point that came as a consequence. In actuality, the severity of change inside each institution took place over several years. That’s why the intensity of the weaponized and corrupt systems became worse over time.
As each institution was infiltrated to become more aligned with the mindset of the activists, the institutions became more radical in their targeting and weaponization.
The activists went from being outside government to being inside government.
Suddenly, the left-wing supportive media changed mission priority from railing against corrupt government, to defending the corrupt weaponization of govt.
Suddenly, the FBI went from targeting domestic threats, to targeting only the domestic threats defined as against the interests of the left-wing activists.
Suddenly, the outside activists went from being defined as social elements creating turmoil, to social elements now being defended and even promoted.
This is why we see outside activist groups like the Dream Defenders, New Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street and more recently ANTIFA, as protected and supported by the activists inside government now in control of the systems and institutions.
All of the social, cultural and political dynamics that changed traditional “liberalism” are easily understood once you realize and accept that activists took control of the power centers of the U.S. government.
Everything that followed, including our current state of social and political turmoil, is simply a natural conclusion of that fundamental change.
The radical activists are now in control of the institutions of power. This core shift is what created the dynamic of a very visible two-tiered justice system. Each institution was weaponized and continues to be weaponized against those who are not aligned with the activist ideology.
The Dept of Justice has been weaponized against people who are not in alignment with the radicals.
The federal police, known as the FBI, have been weaponized against We The People.
The Intelligence Community is now under the control of the radical activists. The mission priorities change accordingly.
When Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard or any other person posits the question about ‘why’ the ideology of the left and media has shifted so suddenly, there is your answer.
It is not a complicated understanding. Once you accept this fundamental change took place, everything seemingly falls into place….
…. At least that’s what the “ah-ha” audience told me.

WOLVERINES!
IMHO this needs to be added to the info from Sundance
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/will-ukraine-sink-citigroup
I find myself wondering if it is – and has been Biden all along. This is his 3rd term – not Obamas
I mean – consider – who has the most years ‘learning the ropes’ so to speak, on how our gvt works?
Folks have also suggested – an actor, acting senile, is not the real Biden who is less visible while attention is focused elsewhere
No proof – just wondering….
This is of course all true, but the antecedents go back a very long way, and tyranny by strong men and government is the way of the world, until Christianity. Through it’s influence, especially in the English speaking world, God’s law became the foundation of Western civilization. This started most prominently with King Alfred the Great establishing the Ten Commandments at the basis of English law, which was then enshrined in Magna Carta in 1215 which was the first time in history the king became subject to law himself. Eventually that all led to an America inspired the the Puritans and the first Great Awakening that established liberty and limited government. It was Christianity alone that gave us those two societal blessings. And what Enlightenment influence there was, it was mostly the Scottish Enlightenment that embraced Christianity.
The continental Enlightenment, however, began a process of pushing back against a God ordained governing structure and the rise of secularism. In due course that gave rise to progressivism and man thinking he could perfect everything through “science” and government power. Modern liberalism was always fated to be taken over by the Marxists because that is the logical conclusion of a God-less secular universe. The Founders knew, regardless of how orthodox their Christianity was, that without what they called “religion,” meaning the dominant form of Protestant Christianity of the time, the experiment of a self-governing republic would never succeed. We are seeing that played out before our very eyes.
Matasicised Cancer
Spot on, Sundance.
We have been undergoing a stealth Collectivist / Communist revolution since Obama, and possible back to the Clintons.
During the Obama reign Stanley Kurtz wrote a book called “Radical in Chief” about Obama’s background (about which, there remain several gaps in public knowledge). Obama’s career of “community organizer” is code speech for a Saul Alinsky operative. Obama was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii, and then ended up in Chicago (which was Alinsky’s base of operations).
Once in Chicago, Communist revolutionary / Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers helped launch Obama’s first political campaign.
Alinsky in “Rules for Radicals” preached that the SDS / Weather Underground tactics were destined to fail. That to have a revolution in the United States, it would be necessary to burrow into the political system, appear to be a legitimate player, and then set the stage for revolution by stealth, subverting the system from within.
Hillary Clinton was an acolyte of Alinsky; he even offered her a job.
It is also possible that Obama was /is a Muslim Brotherhood operative (I have a suspicion that he had Indonesian citizenship via his adopted father, and first entered college under that as a foreign student).
Read “And Not a Shot is Fired” – since post-WWII Communists adopted the method of revolution through subversion and hijacking democratic elections.
This was Obama’s mission. The “racial” / “first Black President” hype made for perfect cover. It was “racist” to try to look under the covers of what Obama was really about.
Trump beating the algorithms and wining election interrupted the plan.
The stolen election / coup d’etat of 2020, and the subsequent installation of the unelected Biden-Harris Junta was and is meant to get the revolution back on track, and soon bring to consummation. Obama is running Biden. In turn, my suspicion is that the CCP (and Muslim Brotherhood) are running Obama.
I refer to those forces as the Globalist-CCP Axis.
Tom Wigand (“American Discerner” on Substack)
Yes Thomas, and yes SD. For a while, I’d try to convince life-long dems their party wasn’t the party they fell in love with back in their college days. Big problem was Obama. They were deep into a swoon that we finally had a black president and that meant he could do no wrong. When you think about it, he was the perfect weapon because nobody would dare criticize and risk being called a racist. That still holds true. If any charges were brought against him, there would likely be civil unrest.
BillyD, you nailed it, ” the deep swoon.”
Before being nominated as the candidate, Obama came to Seattle.
His appearance at the University of Washington was like a rock star. Girls swooned over him.
4 years later he ran again. At the main highway intersections, his school-age supporters were waving his campaign signs. The swoon continued.
One of my theories, is that the advantage of a “Black POTUS” being above criticism, was a double edged sword, that contributed to Obama going “too far, too fast”.
Before there was “the Trump effect” on polling, there was a similar “Obama effect”, particularly on the “Presidential approval polls”.
Go back and look; the initial question of “country; right track /wrong direction” was at historically unprecedented levels, at the Start of his admin (explained by the 2009 financial crises) but that remained at those levels, even as the financials stabilised and improved.
The respondents, having told the pollster, in effect “things SUCK” are then asked to respond “strongly approve, somewhat approve, disapprove, strongly disapprove” of the OBAMA policies on: the economy, trade, energy, foreign relations, etc.
As the romancr over Obama dissipated, and people saw his actual policies, a great many WOULD have said “disapprove/strongly disapprove”, but they didn’t want to be viewed by the interviewer as RASCIST, so,..they lied saying “approve, approve somewhat, or even strongly.”
Now, they are in a dillemma; they said “everything SUCKS” but then gave the POTUS admin high marks, which is a contradiction, and the polls next questions gave them their out, when it asked them to rate CONGRESS.SO, they resolved their contradiction by giving strong disapproval to CONGRESS.
Obama admin THOUGHT that meant he had far more approval for his policies than he really had, and that he could rail against an obstructionist Congress, to push even harder.
Admins don’t use polls to actually detirmine policy, but they do use them as “feedback” on whether they are “messaging correctly” and whether to push harder on the gas, or let off and even brake to slow down.
The Obama effect, followed by the Trump effect both lieing to the pollsters, and now the MAGA effect (of not even talking to pollsters) has distorted this feedback and then eliminated it, and its why they seem to be shooting wild.
The RDS handlers really need input from MAGA, on what would ‘sell’ RDS to us, and they are getting largely SILENCE.
Anyway, thats my theory,..
Stanley Kurtz’s “Radical in Chief” was a fantastic book, well-researched and highly informative. I read immediately upon publishing and it gave me a clear understanding of Obama early on. The book was tedious, at times, but well worth the tedium because I learned so much. All of the puzzle pieces fit together (even today) after you learn from Stanley Kurtz’s great research.
I would venture that this was a Clinton project. 8 years of Clintonian hiring… It would explain why the big hubbabaloo over “Dubya” beating Al Gore in ’00. Then, 9/11 made it near impossible to attack then President Shrub, so, they continued to hire and strategically promote leftists into Government. By the time the magical date when an African American was elected into Camelot, gave cover to the shennanigans involved to make it happen. With the brother of a honky socialist mother in the WH they then implemented their agenda and jettisoned senior NCO’s and Commissioned Officers to promote their slate of radical Flag Officers to control the military. Brennan had the IC well in hand, the Harry and Nancy show ruled in Capitol Hill and the Supremes’ were mostly liberal to liberalist with the exception of Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and a squishy Roberts… It was an unreliable bunch that only got worse with Kagan & Sotomayor…
Our best path today is SCOTUS… Particularly if the overturn the Chevron decision… Dictators are of the “’cause I said so” Club. If thesevleftists have to make laws and pass budgets, many of these GSA parasites will retire. Trump’s idea of making them take a Civil Service Test would rid us of many political appointees who then got a job within the agency open only to employees… No test taken…
Make them undersyand the saying of “everyone wants to be a gangster, until it’s time to do real gangster shit”.
Sue them for their excesses, and appeal any loss at local “hack in black” levels to circuit or even SCOTUS, where the judges are less connected to party politics. This attrition is not something they foresee.
Carlos,
You might appreciate my suggestion for the formation of TREASON COURTS:
https://tomwigand.substack.com/p/we-desperately-need-to-establish
Tyranny doesn’t change, only the tools necessary to achieve total domination.
They were never against “the government” per se, they were just against their enemies.
They ALWAYS wanted the power for themselves.
An example is the homos.
But the left has no christian-ish self restraint towards their defeated enemies.
They will kill them (us) rather than just imprison.
Perhaps the Barrack Obama rather unconventional adolescent sexual experiences influenced his adult life.
Because he was the recipient in the act, not the “doer,” many people would not see this behavior as evidence Obama is gay. It would be seen as Obama as the dominant male. This is prison sex.
Why not do it with a woman if a guy is hetero? Because women talk. Women want money. Gay men such as what’s his name usually do not.
I was so happy when Trump got elected. I thought he could fix everything but I did t understand anything about this takeover back then. All Trump did in retrospect was push back on them a little. But as soon as they got back in they came back with a vengeance and wiped away anything good that Trump did. The only way to fix this is to dismantle 90% of the government. As long as all that power is there they aren’t going to let go of it. The government just has way too much power and it needs to be dismantled
“All Trump did in retrospect was push back on them a little.”
I would say President pushed the back A LOT, pushed them until their backs were against the wall and they were scared-sh!t.
That’s why the went to such great lengths to stop him. There has never been anything close to this in US history, where government agencies and actors commit seditious and treasonous felonies to stop a sitting president.
Yes, it seems now that JFK was assassinated by the CIA, but the coup overthrow of the Donald Trump presidency went on for much longer, involved multitudes of more people, was more widespread and sophisticated, and continues to this day.
If you read JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, JFK got rolled so many times by the people in his own administration, fake Missile Gap, Bay of Pigs, appointing Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. as ambassador to Vietnam, the general’s coup in Vietnam, and on and on. And that happened with DJT continuously as well… most of the mistakes DJT made were due to the snakes around him IMHO. There is simply no way an honest person can sort through things when you have a fire hose of issues to deal with and a Congress and media that is out to lynch you for doing anything that deviates from their agenda. Imagine where we would be today had DJT patched things up with Russia and got us out of NATO, Syria & Afghanistan in an orderly manner, by putting the interests of the country and people first.
And thanks to Biden and the Deep State, this is where we are now:
“The world says NO to US domination” – Fiona Hill, Brookings Institute & John Bolton’s assistant
The world is in revolt against the Western elites as are the common people of the West. All the problems of the world have been created by the same small group of people.
Correct and it’s a damn shame some people still think voting matters.
A Trumpist fix would involve a return to Federalism where States would jump on the Feds whenever these would exceed their enumerated powers, and a return to the Hamiltonian American System where tariffs were collected by the State’s and Feds so that one hand watches the other. A paring back of our foreign military footprint. For example, due to the EU, we no longer have to contend with European Imperial threat. We could remove CombatvUnits, leave forwardcdeployed stocks with support personnel and cycle (Reserve and Guard) units during threat months (March to October) to do their Training & exercises… Apply the same to our combat squadrons… Let our Navy guarding the approaches to Europe and any other ally or organization. Meanwhile, tose defense $$$ stay here. We need to do away with the current economic model that rewards speculative investment and reward local industry.
This entire disaster exists because we, as patriotic, conservative red-blooded Americans failed to recognize what was transpiring, that such a transformation was even possible, while incrementally happening in front of us. We allowed ourselves to be stripped of our moral courage and values. We have in to fear that we might be wrong about those we disagreed with at a fundamental level, believed that we were oppressors and bullies. It really is the “great awakening“ and it’s all ours. The left talked us out of our principles/values/traditions and the obligation to stand up for them. We let them make us believe we were wrong to think otherwise, let alone do otherwise.
The left knows that to criminalize their opposition in thought and deed is the path to power. They create a victim class for every political/social/cultural idea they disagree with. Those classes readily align with this “recruiting” effort because there’s a promise of limitless entitlement that always follows. In our society now, justice for a victim is about no accountability—everything is acceptable and unchallengeable. Limitless—no boundaries, rules, restrictions, restraint—for them. This is why after 50+ years of infiltration and takeover efforts that we see Sundance’s inversion. The now fully empowered left can’t pretend to be victims as easily—the narratives no longer are believable like before. This is why they must continue to fan division and persecute the innocent, especially those who resist because they believe differently. The masks will continue to slip as the desperation to present themselves as our appointed saviors reaches levels of true oppression until they realize it’s just easier to go full totalitarian dictatorship. Look at J6, the vaccines, censorship, election fraud—the Bill of rights is being shredded before us. The 4th amendment doesn’t even exist and the first is right behind it.
It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when. Eventually, they will force us to be the very thing they fear. Leftism must be destroyed for this country to survive as founded. How that takes place is being narrowed down by the day.
ISG, unfortunately, I agree that leftist will force us to be the very thing they fear. From Thomas Jefferson: from time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with blood of tyrants and patriots.
https://www.military-quotes.com/thomas-jefferson.htm
My mother warned us about this in the 60’s. She said that when she was in college in the 30’s that were were Marxist and communist professors who were grooming coteries of students. They were anti-religion (notably).She said this had never stopped. Thankfully she went to her grave not having seen the worst of what she predicted.
My sister, who never cared much for politics, called the Kenyan, the anti-Christ. She knew he spoke with a forked tongue and said he would sow seeds of division. He is still at work as most CTHers know. She puts most of the current awfulness at his feet. The name Legion means there are many of his followers (WEF, Klaus Schwab, etc)
As for me, my family and friends. we follow the Lord. I have absolute confidence in God that He will prevail. The fight will be hard. It has always been so throughout history. We have small victories all the time. Sundance is an example of this.
Pentecost is tomorrow. May the Holy Spirit help us to recognize the victories He sends us so we continue to have courage and heart and faith for the fight,
His fundamental change rolled slowly along and then all of a sudden. Gonna take a strong man or woman to change the course of this nation with the dismal chance that we can retake all branches.
IT’S GONNA TAKE GOD!
How about a massive army of strong men and women, WITH GOD?
Very good explanation and very understandable.
Good job identifying an inflection point. But once in power the activists started being much more like than unlike that which they had previously railed against. They didn’t dismantle Big Finance or Intelligence merely changed who is regarded as hostile and friendly.
So for Part II, I would love to read your take on WHY they are doing all this, what is their desired outcome?
It’s the devil. To have total domain over every man woman and child. They even want domain over their own fellow travelers. Whomever might be at the top of their ranks would want to control the number two right next to him.
And THAT right there is their Achilles heal. At the end of the day, they can’t even trust each other. Usually when snakes take power they end up killing or imprisoning those that helped them because they know those people are also snakes. THAT is where we need to focus our efforts. We need then infighting. They are extremely good at sticking together for their overarching goal. But just like anything else, they suck at managing things in an organized manor.
The success of taking over the country was easier for them because their strategy has been mass chaos. And although you could say they were well organized in this assault, it still took them 250+ years. So if they gain the last bit of control they most likely will lose it becasue they won’t be able to keep it organized.
At the end of the day all we truly need is for the other citizens of earth to simply acknowledge this is truly happening. Once that happens it allows us to organize the counter offensive. Which will be MUCH more organized and strategic. All they have is chaos and blunt force. That’s it.
Please Lord, just wake up 40% of the masses. That is all I ask. If we get that much it will be too much for Satan and his minions to over come.
Have a blessed Memorial Day weekend everyone. I weep for those who sacrificed their lives for what appears to be pure evil, over at least the last 110 years, give or take. Lord Jesus please do not fault any of our fallen for the evils of the politicians that deceived them.
That’s easy.
They want to be God and will crush whoever they have to in the vain quest to become God.
God is beholden to no man, his dictates and desires cannot be questioned and reality itself must conform to his whims.
Anything that stands in the way of or denies their divinity isn’t just wrong or misguided… it is evil and must be destroyed.
They are neo-Gnostics who believe science will grant them immortality and omnipotence in a utopia that will emerge like magic from the ashes of all who oppose them.
They are the latest round of dupes of our true enemy; Satan and all his demons; believing the same old lie “You can be God.”
And yet, all of it will fail to fill the God-sized hole in their hearts (only God can do that) so they will never be satisfied… there will always be someone else to blame for why utopia has not arrived to finally fulfill them.
Basically, they’re going to keep tearing away until they finally run out of things to tear at they can still reach or until enough sane people put them down.
Or to put it more simply, they are criminally insane megalomaniacs. Expect them to behave accordingly.
Been There
Another aspect of the inflection point, MAY have been the collusion between the two wings of the Uniparty bird, that seems to have occurred during Obama.
I am absolutely convinced Congressional Republicon Leadership were fully involved in Benghazi, after reading Sundances excellent detailed after action review. (its in the archives, and well worth the read).
He ends by saying the R leadership (Goudy) had to exhonerate Hillary, because they were fully complicit, too.
I apply the same logic to Fast/Furious and of coarse Tea Party/IRS; and it is tea party IRS that may have cemented a closer bond between the two wings, hence the “tipping point”?
I know the 65 goals of the Conmunists, put into the Congressional record a long time ago lists “Infiltrating and controlling BOTH Political parties.”
Repair the elections.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/05/why_kari_lake_couldnt_close_the_deal.html
While I initially read, and reccomended others read Jay Valentines work, his continual insistence that unless HIS system is adopted, BY SOMEBODY (the RNC, TTV, Mike Lindell) that the 2024 election will be stolen, does not ring true.
He SAYS he is offering it “for free”; and yet Mike Lindell, who has ponied up millions for TTV’s efforts, KL’s legal challenges, etc. isn’t interested in it?
Perhaps thats because its not all Jay Valentine SAYS it is?
His articles have gotten to the point of suppressing MAGA voters, with his “it will just be stolen again” (UNLESS somebody adopts MY STSTEM!).
How is it that despite having a computer savvy crew, and access to numerous State voter rolls, he apperently MISSED the 4 algorythms in the NYS voter rolls, and likely in all others, that can be used to “clone” voters in order to manufactor phantoms, which is supposedly what Jays work is all about.
Frankly, I now regret “falling for” Jays pitch, and encourage others to be highly sceptical as well.
It’s not just Jay. American elections are phony fraudulent Republic In Name Only performances to select the next cast of characters in the next Season of the Reality TV Republic.
Secession is only correct constitutional way forward executed by States claiming back sovereignty under Common Law and getting plebiscite backing for the same, ideally over 60%.
I was torched by my wife’s family for my views of the magic negro. My mother in law called me racist to my face…. It was famiky tradition for my wife and I to gather her family at our home for Thanksgiving. We discontinued after the election of Obama. Out of respect to my wife I remain cordial to her mom. Sundance is accurate in his assessment of when thus mess sped up.
Obama’s not-so-secret weapon is his race.
“His complexion is his protection.” — Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels.
Ever ask your mother-in-law, “If this guy had straight hair, light skin, was married to a white woman, and had the name ‘Barry’, would you be a huge supporter of his?”
It’s literally the psych patients now running the asylum!
We are living “in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation” but Sundance has missed an important point.
This change has its roots way back.
Solzhenitsyn began his Templeton Address in 1983 with these words:
Over half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”
I would prefer the Biblical verdict: “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
People who claim to be Christians and preachers in many churches no longer follow the plain and natural sense of the text of the Scriptures. They revise them to fit and be acceptable in the societies in which they live. The consequences should come as no surprise. A Scottish minister visiting the Netherlands in 1860 described the very bad situation in the churches there because of turning away from the most cherished truths of the Christian faith. In 1923 an American theologian wrote addressing a similar warning to Americans. Others have seen this coming but their warnings have gone unheeded. There is only one solution and that is to take to heart the words of Jesus: “repent and believe in the gospel.”
I submit Sundance has NOT “missed a point”, although he may not have emphasised it in THIS article which attempts to answer a specific question,…Sundances series of “Live your best” articles consistently say, as STEP ONE; “Get right with God” and so I respectfully submit perhaps it is you who “missed” that?
I recall distinctly a story shortly after Obama took office. A longtime federal agent expressed dismay that the new administration viewed the awesome apparatus of the federal government as a “shiny new toy.”
The traditional ethos of law and order – to be politically and ideologically neutral, with equal justice for all – was tossed aside. The Obamaites embraced naked partisanship. What previously was to be avoided became the goal.
The real tragedy is even after the “bad guy” left office his cancer remained behind. And the “good guys” were more concerned with avoiding sunlight on just how far off the rails things had gone under Obama: To the point of covering up the sedition of his operatives who worked tirelessly to overthrow President Trump.
the democrats knowing obama was not natural born and therefore not eligible to be POTUS, selected him over Hilery. Why? my cat could beat john mccain. blacks are going to vote for the democrat no matter who it is. the democrats were a shoo in in 2008 regardless of anything. so, why a foreigner over a natural born skank? I have no idea
The Democrat party has been a gangster organization from it’s inception, Abraham Lincoln said. What we are seeing now is a logical manifestation of that corrupt and corrupting organization in a digital age. They have many more tools to conduct their RICO activities inside and outside of government. And they have the added benefit now of one who is willing and able to take advantage of the race fables they have implanted firmly into the minds of Americans. Obama was able to maximize the corrupt agenda under the shield of race. This is why it’s criminal for conservative not to totally and consistently debunk the race lies. Furthermore, the intelligence services were corrupt from the beginning. Dulles and his brothers used the creation of the CIA to bring thousands of Nazi war criminals into America and seed them throughout our major universities, government and military. The whole corrupting Democrat establishment has to go before we can get back closer to the constitution.
Unfortunately, for political expediency (to get elected) Lincoln and his new Republican party join forces with ANOTHER gangster organisation (WHIGS) and we have been stuck with them, ever since.
So long as we focus on “beating those damn Democrats” and not focusing on the R’s that protect and faccilitate the Dems, we will make NO progress.
Take out the Rs, and the Ds fall, easily.
Being willfully naive is something that we all do. Barry came to destroy and in many ways his “Fundamental Transformation of the USA” is still underway.
Their support is a mile wide but a millimeter thick. poke and prod and it evaporates.
They do not have the consent of the governed and the only way the snow job/con invariably works, is if We The People remain hypnotized and we’ll just jump in the cattle car. C-19 is their beta test and it worked rather well, I believe they jumped the shark.
Now we’re awake, not good for the swamp rats…in the long run.
It’s very simple, they now love the thing they hated (projection) because they are at the helm, for now. It’s fraud, but there it is.
It really wasn’t “all of a sudden”. It’s just that an inflection point is reached and it rolls forward with power and strength. The commie/socialists tried to take over SDS in the 60’s. That’s when I dropped out of the organization. I remember going to a regional meeting at Kent State and there “just happened” to be several students there who were the children of commies. They were taking over the organization and disrupted all future annual meetings so the organization blew apart.
So it took 40 years, from 1968 to 2008 for it to come to fruition. Feinstien and Pelosi were two of the first elected to national office. When Obama ran for office I could tell there was no stopping this. I do have some sense of a slight change in the winds. but remember it took 40 years to get here. Not going to change overnight.
What really blows me away is that so many of the people I knew back then still do not see the change in the left from small government to big government, free speech to censure ship. They think I have changed! I have not changed, my beliefs are the same but left and right have reversed. They don’t get it. And I don’t get how they don’t get it.
Maybe 2008 was the point of no return instead of the inflection point.
Sundance – you are absolutely right. Obama (or whoever runs Obama) ruined this country in every way a country can be ruined.
One of the most chilling things I have ever heard was during the 2016 campaign, when Hillary said, “I have always been an activist, and as your President, I will continue to be an activist!”
This was frightening to me. The job of the President is to represent our ideals, not impose his/hers on us.
And it is always in my mind that in the ’60’s she was one of those “Berkeley radicals” and later she, and all her fellow wild-eyed zealots, grew up and came to take positions of power and influence within the governmental sphere, some visibly, as in Hillary’s case, and others not so visible, like Cass Sunstein, one of the most dangerous men in America.
She, and others like her, didn’t mature and change their philosophy and outlook. They are still the radical zealots they were back in the 60’s, only now more crafty and deceitful.
I was more upset about “we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”. My first thought was into what exactly. We now know.
Actually, Felonia von Pantsuit is a Wellesley radical.
Vivek Ramaswamy; Biden’s cognitive deficits not a bug but a feature for the managerial class
https://rumble.com/v2qecaz-vivek-ramaswamy-bidens-cognitive-deficits-not-a-bug-but-a-feature-to-the-ma.html
What a coincidence, my husband was with his group of older friends at our club and this topic came up. My husband said exactly what you have written Sundance and these gentlemen looked bewildered. The sad part is these are all life long Republicans, retired FBI agents and one fellow even was in the Florida legislature for years. I really don’t think people understood what Obama meant when he said he would fundamentally change our country.
Sounds as if those friends never read books.
KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov talks about this in an interview from the 80s. Subversion, infiltration, demoralization.
well done Sundance. thank you for all your efforts. its the waiting that can get to you.
put on the Armor of God. WWG1WGA. Amen
Let’s go further back in Time to the 60s when the communists started to take over the govt. school system, as was their intended goal, and eliminated school prayer.
Things had already ripened when 0bama inc. took over. The rest is history as told by SD.
The American Criminal Triad: slick / w / o-bummer.
Their administrations spanned a quarter of a century of America’s history.
Their “leave behinds” are in every branch of the administrative, swamp state: executive, congressional and judicial.
They joined together in 2015 to end the political career of President Trump and to set America onto the road to become the one world order nation in their dreams.
They orchestrated the 2021 coup against America and President Trump which involved the 2020 fraudulent election and the illegal certification of that election by the traitors in the house.
They can do all of this with loyal, co-conspirator surrogates, leaving no trace of their own involvement and requiring no funds from them.
It is the perfect crime family hidden within the bowels of the federal government.
So they thought.
Unfortunately, Obama and his followers know exactly how to keep ‘white people’ in place. They prey upon the good natured generous American spirit by pushing the guilt. People everywhere have to call this corruption out for what it is. I do and some get uncomfortable with it. We don’t have the luxury of remaining comfortable if we don’t want to lose our freedoms.
I’m reminded of a great line in the remake of The Magnificent Seven where Denzel Washington says to the beleaguered town folk under the siege of a powerful gold mining criminal: “If you want your town back you’re gonna have to fight for it.”
And he wasn’t talking about mere election reform i.e. nibbling around the edges.
Outright leftist criminals have taken over every aspect of our society from the schools to the justice system to government. They can’t be voted out because most judges will not hear election fraud cases. Their weapon against Trump is Lawfare. But they are backed up by the FBI, our version of the Stasi.
Soros appointed St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner has just resigned, finally, for not doing her job. The Governor booted her.
It will take way more than that. They all must be thrown out BAMN.
Meanwhile they are ousting Paxton from Texas as we speak. Texas and Florida Blue–the holy grail
Perhaps not everyone realizes what you are writing about concerning so-called “shadow work” and other terminology you used. It is based on the controversial psychological theories of Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung that tried to address, and even find a way for us to embrace, the dark side of human nature.
But the true cause of the human ills that Freud and Jung attempted to address are actually spiritual and the true answer to correcting those ills is found in following the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ addressed the cause of the darkness in humans, which is sin. He gave His life to set us free from the consequences of sin if we choose to follow Him.
I think a contributing factor, a co-morbidity if you will, is the Citizens United decision. At the time, I was not in disfavor of it, thinking “liberty is liberty, whether or not I agree with it.” I’ve since realized that I was mistaken. Unlimited money in politics is not a good thing. Duh. [smacks forehead]
Money on this scale is too corruptible and has destroyed both wings of the Uniparty.
Right on the money , once again SD…👍👍
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Your points are well taken; however, we need to go back farther. Big govenment was embraced and implemented under LBJ and the Democrats in Congress. Suddenly, government was going to solve all the problems: welfare, education, environment and energy conservation. It was under that administration that the green movement, intially directed toward gettinf rid of nuclear energy got teeth.
The Great Society was going to solve all the social problems; it created them. Destroyed the family unit, centered people in urban ghettos, and focused on divisions.
The FBI was run by a corrupt Hoover who had a little black book on everyone in industry and in government. Sadly, LBJ was the beginning of this current trough. Clinton and Obama intensified the corruption, and, finallythe current administration no longe even pretends that we have representative government.
To those saying this goes back much further than 2009……that the Obama admin. (and what took place in that time) is only part of the whole story…
…you are correct. It does.
”Never let a crisis go to waste” is the second sentence. The first is, “Create the crisis you seek to exploit”.
Which, of course, is PERFECTLY in keeping with IC (4th Branch) mentalities.
When it comes to DC, ”follow the money” is superseded only by “follow the crises and their outcomes”. In truth, these two things are one and the same.
In truth, every “crisis” going back at least 20-30 years has been exploited to arrive where we find ourselves today. And most, if not all, were staged and created. Much like the J6 “riot” was.
THAT is the real reality we are faced with.
And the implications of this are staggering.
I used to be on the activist side,,but since I left them, I am still an activist, but 180 degrees changed
So how exactly did it unfold? Were the American people duped into electing a “clean”negro in order to purge some guilt about an allegedly racist past? Did the American people just not see his obvious flaws and not listen to what the Kenyan was promising to do? Did the DNC steal the election in 2008? Did the RNC deliberately play along with the radicals by running loser candidates like Mckean and Romney?
“Were the American people duped into electing a “clean”negro in order to purge some guilt about an allegedly racist past?”
Yes.
“Did the American people just not see his obvious flaws and not listen to what the Kenyan was promising to do?”
A majority obviously did not.
“Did the DNC steal the election in 2008?”
Not in the way they stole the 2020 election, but they lied about their intentions and thus received votes they would not have gotten otherwise.
“Did the RNC deliberately play along with the radicals by running loser candidates like McCain and Romney?”
It appears that’s exactly what they did – to preserve their lucrative kickback / pay-for-play schemes.
“racist past” and one of my great grandads was killed by a reb in the fight for Spotsylvania. racist past my aunt fanny!
I understand that 2009 was the pivotal moment when things changed, but why did they change? What were these people offered, and by whom, to take over the government?
Hussein and his toadies didn’t come up with the plan by themselves. And they aren’t philanthropists, environmentalists or humanists.
They’re greedy lustful hedonists. Hussein’s 5 mansions attest to that, in spite of his hubris in saying at some point you’ve earned enough money. Ironic, no? No amount is enough for these vile creatures.
Hussein wasn’t in politics long before he was installed, so he was chosen by someone to be the face of radical change. Who is that someone(s), and why are they intent on destroying not only America, but the rest of the world?
I seem to recall some comment of an apparent Clinton fan on his inauguration day. Remember that was after 12 years of Republican in the White House.
So, in the pomp and circumstance of the festivities a formation of military jets flew over. One Clinton supporter looks up with disdain about military showing off. The other supporter said, “but those are our jets now.”
Ron Silver. Who later saw the light
Agree. I read all the comments. I do believe the country is now fundamentally transformed. I do believe they will now run it off the cliff and collapse it.
How do I and we protect the money we have worked and earned so it does not evaporate before our eyes during the collapse? The topic needs to be a segment of this site. But in the meantime, what is the answer!!!
How did they all become billionaires
To those saying “spot on” to Sundance…
…..you will note that he studiously avoids any discussion of events prior to the Obama administration.
Now, this is not because he is ignorant of events and circumstances prior to 2009, it is only because to engage with topics, events, and circumstance prior to that time necessarily further complicates an already complicated matter.
However, “spot on” is inaccurate. It is not “spot on”, it is only accurate going back to 2009.
But MUCH is left out, and this is FAR from a full accounting of why we find ourselves where we are today.
In my view, this is worth pointing out….not as a criticism of Sundance….but only for the awareness that is truly necessary for a fulsome understanding of realities.
“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen” – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
A number of specific inflection points. 1913, Federal Reserve Act AND 17th Amendment (double whammy); 1971 off gold standard and there are others.
The thing that boggles my mind is how anybody could possibly think they will ever allow voting to threaten their control .
That’s never going to happen , every IMPORTANT election will be stolen .
so many of them on abc are defend scandal started by schiff/nuland called order bush to restart cold wars 2008 plus rig 16y straight steal over 26 trillion to create 7 new banana republics for pnac
putin files created to cover up coup 2014 nuland f eu with by obama greenlight shelling donbass
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The “Great Collapse of Society”
“The Frankfurt School and “Critical Theory”
The “Frankfurt School,” or Institute for Social Research, was set up by a group of Marxist intellectuals in Germany in 1923, affiliated to the University of Frankfurt and independently of the Communist Party, which has been influential in the development of Marxist theory ever since.
The Frankfurt School believed that as long as an individual had the belief – or even the hope of belief – that his divine gift of reason could solve the problems facing society, then that society would never reach the state of hopelessness and alienation that they considered necessary to provoke socialist revolution. Their task, therefore, was as swiftly as possible to undermine the Judeo-Christian legacy. To do this they called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life which would be designed to de-stabilize society and bring down what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order. Their policies, they hoped, would spread like a virus—‘continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.
To further advance their ‘quiet’ incremental cultural revolution (Fabian Socialism) – but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future – the School recommended (among other things):
Divide and Conquer.
The oppressed and their oppressors.
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion.
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children.
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority.
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking/drug abuse.
7. Emptying of churches.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime.
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits.
10. Control and dumbing down of media.
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.
One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pan-sexualism’ – the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:
• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance – hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors.’
Wrote this over three years ago:
It all began with Barack Obama. He had been a radical in college and was a student of the major leftist thinkers. His upbringing was that of a privileged white person. He fit in easier in the world of the white elite than in the black. He had little in common with black culture other than his skin color. But he was a talented actor and a smooth and charming operator. He could take in almost anyone.
Obama was a Leninist, as was the chief mentor of his youth. He was not in a position to be the American Lenin, but he did what he could. “A true Leninist does not decide to lie. He automatically says what is most useful, with no reflection necessary. That is why he can show no visible signs of mendacity.”
A lie at least admits that there is truth. For Obama there is only his will and what is opposed to his will. What’s opposed is of no value. It’s that simple. The IRS was an instrument of his will by destroying his Tea Party enemies. The law enforcement and intelligence apparatus became a tool to destroy the opposition represented by Donald Trump. The State Department and other agencies operated as tools of his will. Most involved willingly worked his will.
Obama was the most destructive president our republic has ever had. The damage is deep and will be long lasting. The Democrats today follow in his footprints. What contributes to Democrats success is moral. Whatever doesn’t is immoral.
Same as Sundance’smexplanation.
“It all began with Barack Obama.”
No, it didn’t.
The “uniparty” existed long before he came along.
Although 9/11 gave the ‘uniparty’ the opportunity to put in place all kinds of abusive tactics to be used against US citizens it was only in Jan 2009, that every department of the US government was made to operate in lockstep using these abusive tactics which were always used against their ‘enemies’. They did this with impunity such that they became a 4th arm of the gov’t.
Because you are the USA with your Constitution I feel that your citizens have a good chance of righting things
unlike the depressing situation we subjects in Canada find ourselves.
“Although 9/11 gave the ‘uniparty’ the opportunity to put in place all kinds of abusive tactics…”
9/11 was a false flag designed and executed by the Deep State to generate significant fear among Americans to the point that we readily accepted the passage of what is probably the most unConstitutional bill in history – the deceptively nicknamed “Patriot Act.”
Example. – Every Jan 6 2021 peaceful protester who has been railroaded, imprisoned without trial, or tried and found guilty despite being truly within their Constitutional rights is the result of spying on Americans via tools & processes enabled by the Patriot Act.
Maybe a year ago Rod Dreher asked what happened? He showed a bunch of graphs of word and phrase usages and various crimes that show lines rising after Obama took office and spiking hockey stick like around 2012. This was when Obama got his wind and turned loose full force. To say that all this started long ago may be true, but the plane did not lift off and leave the ground until Obama. I was in high school and college in the 1960s and was aware of most things. I do not have to read about them; I lived them. I remember full well the civil right era, the Cuban missile crisis, JFK assassination, MLK assassination, and Bobby Kennedy’s assassination. Those were interesting and tumultuous times, but the country did not fundamentally change until we got Obama.
I like it, but I would say that it started in the 70’s at least. Certainly ghw bush and his new world order was damaging. Essentially another psyops officer from the cia in charge of the country. And also to find out what weasels the cheynes and so much of the others were.
Then we had the perverted used car salesman and Reno. A bunch of leftist activist crooks. They tried to get socialized medicine through. I recall someone being bent about the military jets at the inauguration and someone whispering “they’re ours now”
Then we had gwb. He presided over the enactment of the Patriot act and also did an extensive tour of the country lying about it. He enacted a new entitlement program. There was so much that He did, I have tried to forget about it because to my shame, I was actually defending that crook at the time. So much hot air.
There was a big show at the time with the hanging chads. I don’t think that we would have fared any worse under al gore.
At least five of our last six presidents have hated us. They are all of the sedition party, and I’m positive that the next president has already been selected for us. Might be Mike pence just to show us that our elections are still fair.
Who ever the government picks as our overlord, you can bet that they are going to continue to attack us.
Like the song by the Carpenters “It’s only just begun “. We have until January 2025 to right the sinking ship of our republic. In the meantime the JoeBama administration will continue on the current path with the complicit Republicans. Our constitution has been replaced by the WEF agenda. All three, excuse me four branches of government are broken.
The Pilgrim Society’s Empire Press Union created MI5, MI6 and GC&CS, now GCHQ in 1909
All the leading British and American newspapers were weaponized in 1909 by the British Government-led Pilgrims Society: Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Times, Daily Mirror, Daily Express, Sunday Times, Observer, Financial Times, Washington Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, Boston Globe, etc.
As radio and television emerged in the 1920s, the list of Pilgrim-weaponized intelligence propaganda media expanded to BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CBC, CNN, CNBC, Comcast and now FOX
The C.I.A., FBI, NSA and State Department are the step-children under Pilgrims Society (British) control today.
https://aim4truth.org/2019/09/13/origins-of-fake-news/
Lillian Scott Troy (1882-1964). Journalist, investigator, writer, suffragette, entrepreneur, Congressional advisor, American patriot. One of the first to expose the Pilgrims Society’s 24-point plan in 1912 for a “new world order” and the British re-absorption of America back into the British Empire. (Actually, she first came into possession of the plan in 1909.
https://americans4innovation.blogspot.com/2022/07/lillian-scott-troy-1882-1964-unsung.html
Dopey Chuck has been waiting for 74 years to reclaim the glory of the original globalist empire.