The reality was/is that both political corporations do the bidding of their financiers, Wall Street. The battle against the UniParty is always a battle of Main Street -vs- Wall Street.
Wall St funds the acceptable candidates from either wing of the UniParty; the candidates best suited to maintain the status quo and keep the elite class in control of the economy and finance. Donald J Trump is the only threat to their interests, so the Wall Street control group fund anyone who can remove the threat.
Against this backdrop the Wall Street billionaires and multinational corporations selected Ron DeSantis as their best hope, and they poured tens of millions into his various accounts to help construct the campaign against Trump.
However, the campaign strategy, the actual blueprint to defeat President Trump, isn’t working.
First, the astroturf and games of the pretending not to run has just worn people out. The fakery that is the Ron DeSantis campaign is leading to people looking at the candidate in a new light. Why the fraud, fakery, manufactured branding and so much emphasis on denying the obvious. These are the tell-tale signs of a heavily controlled GOPe operation. People now see through the smokescreen the DeSantis handlers created.
Second, the campaign is constructed around getting the base to love their candidate’s position on social issues. The fight against Wokeism is a tool and technique to lift the candidate. However, too much emphasis on the social stuff leaves the candidate narrowing their base of support. Put the two issues together and the viability of DeSantis starts dropping. The cherry on the fail-cake is the weak character of the wind-testing principal. It’s all an illusion.
The donors from Wall Street now see the program isn’t working.
WASHINGTON – Wall Street is firmly in the Never Trump camp. Finding a Republican who can make “never” happen is another question. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis had been seen as the top pick to lock down the support of financial titans who have already pumped millions into his state campaigns.
But as he stumbles through gaffes over everything from his personal demeanor and stance on Ukraine to his snacking habits, Wall Street donors are keeping the door open to his competitors, according to more than a dozen bankers, attorneys and political consultants interviewed for this story.
Where Wall Street puts its money matters because financial industry executives are among the biggest donors in presidential elections. And while bankers and asset managers generally favor lower taxes and lighter-touch regulation, they also value stability and experience — and they spread their money around to candidates of both parties, meaning they’re very much in play in each cycle.
On paper, that should give DeSantis an advantage. People close to Wall Street donors said his national profile and powerhouse fundraising operation that has included support from hedge fund titans like Ken Griffin and Jeff Yass had positioned him as most able to survive a primary with former President Donald Trump.
DeSantis’ gubernatorial reelection campaign is still loaded with cash, giving him big advantages over possible competitors. But many now say he no longer seems so formidable — at least on Wall Street. (read more)
In the bigger picture, the issue for Wall Street is that people are starting to see the DC political construct is really just a Potemkin Village created to obscure the real nature of who is in power over government. As more people awaken to the financial and economics of the issue, the multinational corporation, billionaire donors and agents they conscript as influencers no longer have the ability to sway voters.
Social issues are a tool to keep people focused on the puppet show. However, once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never go back to that moment in the performance when you did not see them. Ultimately, this is the DeSantis problem, and it extends well beyond the Florida governor.
The next president of the USA is for the people to decide. It will take a strong unified voice and a powerful determination to defeat an opposition which uses ”less-than-desirable” tactics to ”push” the vote in their favor. Do the people have that will?
Sundance’s last paragraph –
“Social issues are a tool to keep people focused on the puppet show. However, once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never go back to that moment in the performance when you did not see them. Ultimately, this is the DeSantis problem, and it extends well beyond the Florida governor.”
So, people here are saying EVEN IF Ron DeSantis sits out (there is no guarantee Ron would do that) the 2024 potus run, he’s still not viewed favorably in the future? How can Gov. DeSantis change his image from being the puppet with the marionette strings attached?
He should do his job as governor and do it well, support Trump and the base, run for the senate when his term for governor is over and accept that that’s the best avenue of having a political career he will ever have, it wont be in the oval office.
This ^^^.
^^^ moar of this ^^^
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DeSantis’ only chance at the White House is being Trump’s VP and Trump stepping down at some point. DeSantis won’t even beat Newsom in a 2028 battle.
Trump already had a backstabbing weasel for a VP. Why would he pick another one?
1000 X yes!!!!
I didn’t vote for DeSantis a second time so he could leave FL and run for national office. It ticks me off and I would think a lot of others as well.
He’s needs to find a new state to be senator other than FL, we have 2 POS’s now, don’t need to do a lateral trade.
Trading Rubio for DeSantis would be an improvement because Rubio is in the gang of 8 this round.
Rick Scott is MIC/Space Program and mostly conservative and corrupt.
He can’t fix it!
Call him the titanic
Because it’s a race to the bottom now!
It’s not his “image”, that is who and what he is. A Marinette, a projection, a lie.
He is a globalist. Can’t fix that.
Electing him would be the same as Bush, except DeSantis addresses some social issues.
To accept the idea that DeSantis is redeemable is akin to accepting the fact that a male transvestite really is a woman.
You can put as much lipstick and caked on makeup on DeSantis as you want, but he’s always just going to be a globalist.
He’s toast.
Why would one want to fix a RINO with globalist trappings who has already demonstrated where his loyalty lies?
This throwabout term “RINO” must be dumped. Once 75%+ of republicans are acting like RINOs, then Overton shows they *are* real Republicans.
Trump has chosen to do the practical thing and try and get that clunker of a party back into the White House. Yes I know the Rs are where the money and infrastructure is, but at some point you have to realize it’s a dead horse. They aren’t into PDJT nor us. Trump’s weak tea approval of the R party chairwoman shows just how poorly a fit it is.
But if there’s any dead horse here it’s the one I’m beating. Sigh.
RINO only denotes the fact that he isn’t a real Republican, instead of describing what he actually is…
Uniparty Ron is a GLOBALIST, to be more precise a globalist marionette.
I agree & just used the term. 😊 I’m blue in the face trying to explain that one to people. I did think the term aptly described RDS, though.
I think we need to co-opt the term as I am now technically a RINO – registered as a R only to vote in the primary but don’t give a crap about the RNC any longer. They don’t fit me at all anymore.
Self-Immolation is forever.
He still should reverse course and do the right thing, even if it amounts to falling on his sword; repudiate his masters and back Trump, and perhaps the people will trust him with some responsibility beyond pretending to fix Florida someday.
However, the UniParty and Derp State would never forgive him and he actually has a very short shelf life already; his only value to them lies in stopping Trump, if he fails that in any manner or simply bows out, he’s useless to them as anything other than being an ankle-biter like Pence and will never be considered as a contender to be their puppet-in-chief, ever.
MAGA, on the other hand needs no traitors and knows the sting of their shivs all too well . . .
RDS’ best move now would be to drop out of the POTUS race and declare that he is needed to continue to work for the citizens of his State. The GOPe and globalists will be pi$$ed, but, so what. Does RDS have the ba//z to do this, or is he so entangled in the swamp that he doesn’t dare, and would rather lose a nomination…
He thinks he still has a chance at the WH and he is listening to his advisors who are not in touch with the MAGA base. Unless, he starts seeing the polling reality, he will stay in the race.
Too late. He’s cooked his goose.
“Too late. He’s cooked his goose.”
IOWs, he’s already been bought and paid and the buyers don’t want a refund; they want their pound of flesh.
I think he could still pass. But right this minute they want him to run. That may be in the process of changing and allow him to bow out gracefully. He is so not ready for the meat grinder of a national election.
Because a Rino gonna Rino? After decades of Rino’s p*ssing in their constituents faces, even the dullest among them are catching on slowly but surely.
He and every future Republican candidate need to authentically choose a side…old Wall Street and Neocon lobbyist GOP or America First. Then shout it out and demonstrate it with policy. It’s that simple. Ron blew a great opportunity and chose poorly, but it’s understandable given the lure of money and the advice of people around him, including his wife.
I would like to know more about his wife. She has no previous background in politics that I know of.
Is she just chomping on the bit of potential fame and glory? She is obviously physically attractive and does not speak much about anything. She shows up at any and all events for RDS all decked out in “cape-dresses” and “long gloves” (like Jackie Kennedy)….
Is she the power behind her spouse? Does she have ties to globalist $$$$????
Rumor Casey has ties to Soros, Blackrock and the WEF.
Got a link on that?
I will flind that. but it is PROVEN that Christina PUSHAW, the form er press secy and now head of the invisible presidential campaign trouble shooting, IS a Soros asset.
She dresses like some high schooler dressing up for the prom.
A Jackie Kennedy or Melania Trump she’ll never be.
I think she dresses 100% appropriately.
She dresses appropriately for a governor’s wife. Jackie Kennedy doesn’t own that look. No one here liked it when people picked on Melania.
Drop out, endorse Trump, prove his credentials by taking a job in the Trump Admin where he declassifies everything related to the various frauds and fires tens of thousands of bureaucrats in the largest purge of Federal employees in American history.
He should also call on all other candidates to drop out. And call for the immediate firing of the top echelons on FBI, DOJ, DOD and State.
Sounds great. Though more of a dream. I see General Flynn in this role.
You must think we’re stupid.
We know who he is and we know when candidates try to play games to get votes.
It will not work for them ever again.
He can’t.
as Sundance says “Once you see the strings you can never go back to not seeing them”
That is the problem, he can`t. The strings have been seen and the magic is gone. You now realize there is NO Santa Claus, NO Easter Bunnie, NO Tooth Fairy, and NO white knight to the rescue by the name of Ron DeSantis. DeSantis is now seen as a “Company man” a “useful idiot” for the Deep State. The chrome has started to flake off. Now, it is full steam ahead for the Trump Train.
And, no “poor blue collar boy from Jacksonville.”
First he can stop flip flopping like he did on Ukraine. Second, don’t ever make fun of Trump again. Third start bashing the corrupt Obama-Biden apparatchiks who are persecuting him and point they are the true threat to democracy.
Oh, and banish the FBI from Florida foe the obscene raid on the Trumps’ home.
By getting right with God.
DeSantis’ character has been revealed to be so poor.
He has shown to be buyable which makes him completely untrustworthy.
Unless he is humble before God this is who he is.
Beyond that, DeSantis would have to hope that the proverbial short memory of the people kicks in.
I think the answer to your last question is best answer with this:
CAN R. DeSantis change ? and I am not talking about IMAGE either. I am talking specifically about his allegiance to his billionaire club handlers?
see the problem.?
let me give you a specific and present relevant illustration of this problem:
joe malarkey….the guy was “sponsored” early on in his political career. He was not elected by the people because he was the people’s choice. His political career was launched BY MONEY…and all of it was financed by very rich beach friends. To be fair, this is not perculiar to joe malarkey, given almost ALL career politicos made their bones with IOU’s from very rich special interest icons and their associations.
but what does happen when you get married to that. How do you divorce from it? at what point is your service owed, complete?
and short answer is clearly, it does not end. it does not end for the simple reasons that THE PEOPLE will never make you as wealthy and keep you in office as the wealth class will. So this is a choice…and once you get a taste of it, there is no going back to serving the interest of THE PEOPLE.
but that is exactly how our constitution was intended to construct. That WAS THE DREAM..the imperative was that THE PEOPLE are the source of power OVER government. Not special interests. Not billionaire beach friends. I am under no illusion that the present day form of government is anything but a paid for installment plan.
President Trump CHANGED THE HEARTS AND MINDS. He showed what happens when you OWE NOTHING TO NO ONE. Just the people. HE IS THE PEOPLE’s PRESIDENT>…about as close as the constitutional dream could imagine possible.
So the answer is in my humble opinion, that DeSantis has a very very low probability of changing his allegiance. Why would he? He’s grown accustomed to representing big money and it’s been fabulous for his personal wealth. FACT.
This is one of the reasons why President Trump is an enigma. He literally destroyed all prior assumptions. There has never been someone like him before. NO ONE!
President Trump is creating the MOLD by which we will evaluate our representatives.
DeSantis would have to be reborn again to establish himself as reliable and authentic in the same way.
just my opinion.
noting: yes, this is a revolution…it’s the 4th stage – transfer of power. The people are informed, they are aware, there is a sufficient majority who have withdrawn consent. Our destiny is truly in our own hands. We should consider what some consider impossible, as absolutely critical to self preservation..
God Bless America
Excellent comment.
I’d add, that as soon as he stepped off the escalator, DJT immediately garnered all the right enemies, which showed me that he would be the candidate of my choice even if I were the only vote.
Ron DeStablishment is the polar opposite. He has all the wrong friends.
Wrong question IMO.
But I do not follow the running currents at times.
In form with the prevailing metaphor here – DeSantis is the puppet….not the puppeteer. He has done some things I like, I say this as a FL citizen, and some I don’t. All of the present engineering is directed at taking out DeSantis, the perceived threat to PDJT, before the primaries.
I personally see this as a sideshow that really has no impact. Puppets are puppets. They are quickly shelved when their shelf value expires. DeSantis doesn’t have a wisp of a chance barring some black swan event to PDJT.
But what about the puppeteers? The folks controlling the strings.
Wake me up when there is a real plan in place, today, with financial backing, organization, communications, resources, proactive action, etc., etc……..real friggin power…..not good feelings and slogans. What, after all, do you believe all of Sundance’s exhortations of late vis the fight to come have really been all about?
The civil war has already started.
There used to be a poster on this site some years ago – JumpinJarhead. He cautioned against a civil war for some cogent reasons The window for choice has, alas, passed IMO.
I, for one, don’t believe the bulk of the American people will take immiseration lying down. We shall see. That said, failure is almost guaranteed in the absence of factors previously listed.
Bumper sticker at Publix today: We, the People are pissed!
Everybody knows inflation in everything is rampant and continuing. Since most are not in the top 10% of earners, most are not ok with the Biden Administration’s policies.
DeSantis is wasting time and money on his “battle” with Disney, all for PR. He is using tax payer millions to hire lawyers to punish Disney for criticizing a Florida law, to break an agreement Florida made with Disney back in the 1960’s, and to put in place state government/political control over a private company.
I really dislike the views of Disney. REALLY dislike. But I can’t help believing that a federal court would strike down what DeSantis is trying to do. Which means continuing the “battle” is simply for PR.
He’s not concerned about J6 prisoners from Florida, about DOJ raids of a former president, about insurance company insolvency, about high insurance and electric rate hikes, the latter two being VERY important to ordinary people.
Belle, “DeSantis is wasting time and money on his “battle” with Disney, all for PR. He is using tax payer millions to hire lawyers to punish Disney for criticizing a Florida law“
They didn’t just criticize the law. They vowed to use their status to overturn it. A spectacularly special status that no other corporation in FL enjoys.
So they’re pissing on the shoes of FL taxpayers & elected representatives & using their special corporate carve outs to usurp the will of the people.
That’s a battle worth having & the corporation must learn their place in FL society. That place is most definitely not using taxpayer funded largesse to overturn the will of those same taxpayers.
“They vowed to use their status to overturn it.”
And how is that illegal to do? Tell me. That is their right to say and try to do.
And if Disney enjoys a “special status”, it is the result of agreements made in the 1960’s to give Disney that special status. That special status has brought a lot of tourist dollars into Florida – which have gone to Republican-owned businesses – restaurants, souvenir shops, hotels, gas stations, department stores, clothing boutiques, bars, entertainment venues.
The influx of tourist dollars is the reason that Disney was given that special status and all people in Florida have the benefit of that money pouring into the state.
Disney was biting the hand that fed them and got exactly what they deserved. Florida created a special taxing district for Disney free from the jurisdiction of Orange County. Disney did not need any zoning approvals, building permits or even building inspections for anything they built. Disney did not pay property taxes for schools or social services. Disney was it’s own government and they blew it to push the transgender rights hoax and critical race theory it’s management wanted.
Why is having a different set of values “biting the hand that fed them”? It is free speech. Disney is free to say what they want and to pursue goals that they want, even if I disagree with those goals and views.
If the state of Florida is revoking the privileges of Disney as a punishment for their expression of free speech, then that action by the state of Florida is unconstitutional. BTW, Disney’s tax status has remained exactly the same.
Nobody has a special “county” of their own granted by the State of Florida (it’s people) except Disney. Disney chose to attack the State and suffered the consequences. How is that unconstitutional to make Disney pay tax and comply with the same laws every other person and corporation in Florida is required to do? Disney is not being punished just being treated equally!
The state of Florida granted Disney that special county. Florida did that for MONEY that comes to the state of Florida.
“Chose to attack the state”. They SAID what they believed and said they would work for their ideas.
That is free speech. You don’t like they say, I don’t like what they say, but it is the first amendment. When the state starts to take away those rights for things they dislike, they also take away YOUR rights to say what you don’t like and what you will work to change.
I think this will be addressed in the courts. If Disney has not done anything illegal, DeSantis’s suit will have no teeth. However, in my humble opinion, Disney has facilitated many crimes against children. I also think Disney went too far threatening DeSantis with lawfare. DeSantis is within his rights as a person and in his office as governor to counter that threat.
I guess you might consider child grooming to be free speech, but most people don’t. Just because you have a right to free speech doesn’t mean I have to approve of what you say. I don’t have to help you raise money to spread free speech I don’t agree with just the same as I don’t have a right to prevent you raising money for spreading your free speech. If Disney has to give up privileges that comparable companies are NOT getting, is that unfair?
Maybe the State of Florida is now having to raise more money to deal with children’s mental health issues than they did in the 1990s, on a case by case basis and allowing for inflation. Apparently Disney has gone beyond trying to convince children that dragons can fly and fairies can turn puppets into real children. Now Disney is using their financial clout to help convince innocent children that with astronomically expensive surgeries, medications, counseling and legal fees they too can be something they are not.
It’s mutilation.
Child genital mutilation. Remember when people used to get upset about other cultures cutting off girls clits? Well now we are much worse than that, and many are cheering it on.
“Now Disney is using their financial clout to help convince innocent children that with astronomically expensive surgeries, medications, counseling and legal fees they too can be something they are not.”
How are they going to do that if you are protecting your child from Disney’s ideas?
It’s like saying you don’t believe in using financial clout to convince people to vote for certain candidates? You don’t believe in financial clout to convince young women to keep their babies? You don’t believe in using financial clout to sell Fruit Loops?
BTW, Florida did not change Disney’s tax status, according to something that Sundance said on Twitter.
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Nnnn… I usually agree with you Joe, but in this case the better approach might have been to just enact and enforce stronger child abuse laws; put out a better PR campaign.
Reedy Creek is the state’s biggest employer; I’m not sure what “social services” it should be providing to… who? People in the surrounding areas, especially the youth, have a ready-made place to get decent jobs. Disney also brings in huge amounts of business to nearby counties.
It also has the most beautifully maintained roads and other infrastructure that one will see anywhere — makes no sense to place them under the thumb of the usual nitwits who sit on city and county commissions and hesitate to approve stuff because they actually don’t understand what they’re doing or want to “horse trade” for their own career benefit.
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What won’t we sell for nice roads & jobs that leave many people on snap & Medicaid benefits?
Reedy Creek was carved out of two Central Florida Counties the largest is Orange County. Disney is in Orange County and for the past 50 years has been exempt from paying taxes for anything including Orange County school taxes.
Place Disney under the thumb of the very people who they are promoting. That’s justice!
There’s nothing illegal about legally overturning a legal or illegal statute or law. People see Disney as enabling child groomers so the people of Florida want to hinder this enabling.
This is not Walt’s Disney Company.
Actually, it is Walt’s company, he was a closet pedophile. Disney failed to adequately warn visitors to one of their lagoons and a young child was taken by an alligator. Disney has a dark side. Letting Disney provide its own government separate from state, city and county ordinances is not in the best interests of Floridians. Nobody is talking about crippling the business, just about bringing it in line with companies compliance with governance.
It’s their right to do whatever they please to do as long as it’s legal.
It’s not their right to use the taxpayer’s dollars to subvert the will of the taxpayers by bribing/subverting their representatives.
It is the right of many multinational corporations to use their money however they see fit to try to get their ideas into place. It’s called lobbying. They are constantly subverting the will of the people by bribing their representatives. The multinational corporations and Wall Street billionaires have paid off DeSantis to subvert the will of the people.
Disney is not using tax payer dollars.
The legality of lobbying is not to be confused with a right. It is corrupt to its core, no different from bribery.
“We the People” doesn’t include “We the Corporations. “Corporations are people too” is the same brand of corruption & criminality. That was our 1st overt clue who owned John Roberts & thus the SCOTUS.
Every corporation uses taxpayer dollars to subsidize their existence & that most certainly includes Disney.
RDS is not different from the vast majority of elected officials in either his status as an OligarchWhore or his attempted obfuscation of that status.
RDS is fighting a good fight for FL regarding Disney. He is fighting a good fight against the Left’s wokeness in FL.
Bottom line, he needs to continue the good fight against the swamp in FL and hopefully enlighten other State Governors. He needs to remain Governor and serve his term for his constituents.
Pray he does the right thing and NOT announce candidacy for POTUS, despite the pressure put on him by the Globalists.
I only disagree in part.
Once he pocketed the cash, he was no longer the master of his own destiny. He’s now beholden to follow the orders of others whether he runs now or later.
If he ever has to depend on a vote from me, it will never be forthcoming.
DeSantis is not going to win against Disney because it is free speech. And he already knows it.
It’s a PR stunt.
His whole governorship has been basically a PR stunt.
There are 67 counties in the State of Florida. There is a cabinet in the Florida Governor’s Mansion with pewter cups engraved with each county’s name. There are 68 cups. One was engraved “Disney”.
Think about that.
Look at a map. See how much landmass the Reedy District represents in Florida. For decades there were rumors about child kidnappings at the Magic Kingdom. Parents in the know would take a picture of their children particularly focusing on their shoes. Kidnappers had a quick change of clothes but they did not have the shoes. It was a “conspiracy theory”. Today one can “tour the tunnels”. Nearby Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd is regularly holding press conferences exposing those arrested for their child perversions.
Cant say that any of that is surprising. Can’t say that I’ve been a fan either.
Thanks for adding color to Disney’s dark side.
Because he is a globalist. He proved that when he was in Congress.
Belle, you hit the nail squarely and powerfully on the head. RDS has no stands on National issues. I pray that Americans see his shallowness and realize that while he may be good for FL, he is not the candidate for POTUS of OUR Country.
When RDS was in congress he voted for TPP. That is really all one needs to know to understand he is a globalist, a stooge for WEF.
My objection to Disney’s Reedy Creek Improvement District has to do with it giving Disney too much power and not anything to do with Ron DeSantis’ current actions against it, though I do think that Disney overstepped its bounds by supporting perverted, woke sex ed curriculum in Florida.
Disney operates as its own government within the jurisdiction of the Reedy Creek Improvement District.
Reedy Creek needs to be fully abolished and Disney made to take responsibility for all of its debt.
Putting Reedy Creek under the control of a state board appointed by the Florida governor is just creating another problem as it would become a haven for political cronies.
It needs to be fully abolished and Disney made to operate like any other company in Florida.
No company should ever have the amount of autonomy and self-governance that Disney has within the confines of Reedy Creek.
Reedy Creek is basically a sub county within Orange and Osceola Counties and has most of the same authorities and responsibilities as a county. It even contains two municipalities, Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista.
A company shouldn’t be able to run its own subcounty and municipalities simply for being a large amusement park.
Yup
“Reedy Creek needs to be fully abolished and Disney made to take responsibility for all of its debt.
Putting Reedy Creek under the control of a state board appointed by the Florida governor is just creating another problem as it would become a haven for political cronies.”
“… punish Disney for criticizing a Florida law ….” We have video of Disney executives admitting they are using children’s entertainment to groom children. The “Don’t Say Gay” law doesn’t exist. It’s a figment of the Left’s imagination.
Then prosecute the Disney executives for any illegal actions they have taken under current laws. But *saying* they are using children’s entertainment to groom children is not a crime per se.
Protect your children. You do not have to allow them to be influenced. Turn off the Disney channel. Don’t go to Disney. Don’t go to Disney movies. Stand up for and volunteer to help design school curriculum that doesn’t include gender ideology or identity political views – and do it for more than grades K-3. Do it K-12. Get involved in church organizations. Get out and protest Disney’s ideas.
DeSantis is not now – NOR EVER HAS HE BEEN – for the ordinary people. Look at his Congressional voting record.
I agree with everything you wrote except that the fight against Disney is not worthwhile. It IS worthwhile and there may be legal heft to DeSantis’s case against them. It is, of course, NOT the most pressing issue to Floridians. High electric rates and high homeowner insurance rates are.
The only question for Sundance now is who is Trump’s VP?
At this point, DeSantis is running for a hope and a prayer but also for a VP slot at worse.
Is he still acceptable as VP? Or does Trump go with Noem? Haley? Or Lake?
Personally I like Kari Lake, maybe a Tucker might fit in!
Kari Lake or Mark Robinson. Tucker is a pipe dream.
Pence!
Oh my gosh! You gotta be cluckin’ kidding’, right?
With Mark Robinson, that duo would be just a POWERHOUSE EXPLOSION of charisma and personality! I LIKE it!!
Well, you certainly can’t trust him in that spot now, can you?
Et tu Mike Pence?
Tucker!
Sundance!
Tucker does not have the maturity to be President.
He also has a disorder that he spoke of with the Nelk Brothers where he can’t process too much at one time. It’s why he doesn’t have a TV.
His brain can’t deal with the noise.
Someone else might remember better details.
Kind of an ironic last sentence….eh?
J/K
Probably between Noem or Vivek sp?. Trump has bragged on Vivek’s campaign. Saying he’s campaigning for something, not against Trump. His numbers will probably keep rising. Lake wants to be Governor or US Senator.
We don’t want Noem, she is showing her loyalty to the RNC Club, too.
She stood with the RNC establishment when it tried to take the grassroots precinct committee voices away.
She ignored Lindell’s repeated calls about this.
http://link.frankspeech.com/q/tOXjja5kcy2V7k-VaIKk8rhOJ7kE2QMMortmH5XcbflNDj9DQ5_vbhJLpF
Noem is a WEF young leaders graduate. Vivek supposedly paid to have his Soros connections erased from Wikipedia.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/05/03/wikipedia-editor-says-they-were-paid-to-change-vivek-ramaswamys-page/
Good points, mfl53. However, not Noem, she is, unfortunately wading in the swamp. I am not sure of Vivek. There are too many issues that he has not clarified. Kari is a better choice at this point.
Want to upend the entire sh** show? DJT nominates RFK Jr as VP. RFM Jr has know for decades how the DS works. This would expose the DS for who they are. RFK Jr may be the kraken it is time to unleash..
No. He’s a Democrat in every cell of his body. He pushes gun control and is anti-2A. He has also pushed the climate change nonsense but has backed off it slightly recently.
We need a MAGA VP who will have Trump’s back and who will carry MAGA forward after Trump’s second term.
No to either
Vivek is a definite no.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/benbartee/2023/05/05/2024-gop-candidate-vivek-ramaswamy-reportedly-paid-wikipedia-editor-to-remove-reference-to-soros-fellowship-n1692885
Soy is bad for you.
Only those who have been tested in the fires thrown at them and withstood the onslaught, in whatever fashion they were able to create, should be considered as a VP. Not a real big crowed to pick from, but anyone of them should do.
Gaetz is the only leader I see besides Trump and Kari Lake. MTG is headed there, she should be Senator.
Michael Flynn
Given DeSantis’ figuratively spitting in President Trump’s face despite the PDJT having singlehandedly helped the governor win his election with a strong endorsement, I cannot now imagine a situation where President Trump would bother to take a second look at DeSanctimonious for Veep. Take that possibility and toss it in yesterday’s trashcan where it belongs.
It’s not the disloyalty that should concern President Trump. It’s the money he has taken from the multinational corporations and banks and insurance companies that makes him beholden to their agenda. It’s also his stance on Ukraine – one minute seeming to be ready for peace then later after consultations with his management team, taking that back and saying people misunderstood him. He’s a long time supporter of the war in Iraq as well as sending the FL National Guard to train Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
I understand you, Belle. I tend to believe that PDJT considers everything you wrote after the first sentence as collectively showing DeSantis’ disloyalty not only to Pres. Trump but more importantly showing disloyalty to MAGA ideals & policies, not to mention thumbing his nose at the 10’s of millions of American Deplorable voters who want those policies and thus elected DJT in 2016 and again in 2020
Definitely not worth it, as RDS is being bought and paid for by the Globalists/WEF. Not to mention Trump would lose electoral college votes by having a VP from the same State as he.
NO on RDS as VP.
Pence didn’t show his hand the way DeSantis has, and he was beyond a disaster, enough.
No one entering the race to take down Trump, or to be the last man standing when his associates remove Trump, merits the number two position in a Trump Administration; such could never be trusted.
If anyone wants to compete to be Trump’s VP, they should be the greatest MAGA fighters and Trump backers on the planet, and let PDJT decide if he wants to consider them for the position when the time comes; that’s how to campaign to be PDJT’s VP.
Political thugs and MAGA are like oil and water.
One inflammable, stokes fires ..
the other puts out fires, flushes out filth, nourishes and gives life.
The one is unsustainable, the other endures.
Water, like gravity, always wins.
Yes to all that too. Thank you.
Trump already knows who he wants.
How many boxes does Candace Owens check???
Daily Wire has compromised her, and she is not a leader with requisite skills.
We keep getting offered personalities, we need more than that.
Even if I sorta had a crush on that one.
Mais oui! Elle est une femme fatale…..
😉
She betrayed me when she married, what’s his name. I love her and want to have her baby!
“Beat me, whip me … make me write bad checks!”
No on Candace. Every thing changed when she signed up with Daily Wire/Ben Shapiro.
None.
Zero.
How about General Flynn?
Absolutely belongs in his Administration.
Wherever PDJT sees fit.
No to RDS, no to Noem & a big hell yes to Lake, Byron Donalds or Matt Gaetz.
Hell yes.
None of the above.
Let Trump decide.
A big yes.
But also a big Yes to MAGA Nation continuing to show support for the few, the brave, the actual America-First, so that PDJT considers them.
Governor Kari is still my first choice assuming she doesn’t win the battle for her legitimate governorship. She has great charisma, giving her the potential to expand like a brush fire outside the current (and growing) MAGA core.
She is a lot like Sarah Palin but with a gorgeous speaking voice to boot.
No, none
He was never acceptable. He is a globalist. Look at his record in Congress.
Ben Carson … he is the only one who has not backstabbed our POTUS
My choice for months!
NOT RDS. He is a total Globalist. He would be against DJT’s policies all the way, working for his “sponsors” just like Mitch, and the rest of the GOPe. No chance to drain the swamp with RDS as VP or even in the cabinet.
Ric Grinell will work with Trump and knows the game.
I am still thinking Ben Carson is excellent VP material.
Looking at elected Republicans from coast to coast there really isn’t anyone that stands out who could be Trump’s potential running mate. His 2024 VP pick is really not the most pressing matter right now.
Let’s be honest the 2028 election won’t matter a hill of beans for the country if we don’t get Trump back into the White House in January 2025. This nation won’t survive a second Biden term or the first term of another Deep State Democrat in the Oval Office. I think we can all agree that 2024 is truly the make or break presidential election for the future of our country.
Noel and Haley are not MAGA.
These people need to get out of politics because rinoism will never work for them again with the electorate.
The days of globalism are over.
There’s a name I haven’t heard yet.
Devin Nunes.
It certainly wont be a bad choice.
Thanks for the reminder. Devin is another who has walked through the fire.
Why does SD need to preempt President Trump’s answering the only question left?
Byron!
“The Eyes of Lurid Marsh” or “How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bum”
Pretty good, Boogy.
If the eyes are the window to the soul, DeSantis needs to close the curtains.
DeSantis is jeopardizing the Republican’s tenuous hold on Florida with his selfish ego trip. At the rate he’s going he’ll lose any future Senate or House elections without a rescue from President Trump which President Trump will do none the less.
TV media is controlled opposition. They are also trying to ruin the country, getting paid very well to do so.
I was just listening to the first 30 mins of Rich Baris’ podcast about their new poll to be released soon. They polled a large number.
DeSantis drops further to 17%.
He mentioned that Wall Street article talking about how they are realizing DeSantis is weak.
His take on the donor class falling away from DeSantis was that them criticising that DeSantis emphasized woke stuff too much for their liking is just cover. They always knew he was pro life, anti woke, etc. They just want an excuse to back away from someone who is losing.
He also talked about the ABC poll. He said at some point the pollsters will have to take into account both the DeSantis or bust voters (small)….and the “Trump or bust voters” (huge) in their polling. DeSantis has no chance in those rustbelt battleground states. Trump’s base is the working class…DeSantis’ base is the highly educated.
This is the link to the podcast I was listening to:
His base are the elites and that is what he and Mrs. D want to be.
“DeSantis base is the highly educated.” Where have I heard that one before? Oh yes, only the lowly deplorables break for Donald Trump.
I call bs on that one. Highly indoctrinated is more like it. The DeSoros base is the highly indoctrinated.
Thank you Judith, that is it. I know many brilliant highly educated people that watch way too much TV for their news and are indoctrinated.
LMAO: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/08/wall-street-desantis-reelection-00093736
“…Wall Street would love a candidate like former House Speaker Paul Ryan “or a younger Mitt Romney.”
But they acknowledged that Trump would likely obliterate any candidate from the increasingly small centrist segment of the GOP.
“We all saw what happened to Jeb Bush, who everybody up here loved,” the executive said of Wall Street donors who flocked to the former Florida governor’s 2016 campaign. “He got crushed and crushed quickly, and that would just happen again.”
Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are being re-branded as “centrists” from an increasingly small segment of the GOP. Their segment has always been small, located practically off the far-right end of the Bell Curve with losers like John Bolton, Trey Gowdy, Mitch, Susan Collins etc. We Won’t Get Fooled Again!
I guess “centrist” now translates as “globalist fatcat neocon Ukraine warmonger sellout.”
Pardon me while I scribble a note… Gotta keep up!
When is MAGA going to take down Wallstreet once and for all?
I don’t think anybody will need to help them. They are taking themselves down gradually (and soon quickly).
The globalists who want to destroy the USA economy for good mean it this time.
However – if they do, We the People could fix it pretty quickly from Main Street with PDJT at the helm…
Mr “born on the eight day” Ron’s negatives include this ridiculous ad saying God created old Ronnie on the eight day signifying he is some sort of special. Ted Cruz’s campaign did this same thing. But when you have to changes laws so that you can run for president and sign those laws that benefit you the most at the moment, it just isn’t right. The rats do this all the time and it’s revolting. If you cannot play by the rules of the game you should play. If you think a law need to be changed, get it changed some other way so that it doesn’t look like your trying to game the system to benefit yourself.
Had DeSantis tried punctuation yet? DeSantis! He will.
His pronouns are Never and Trump.
Ron Deep$tati$t is nothing more than the organ grinder’s monkey, the only difference is Deep$tati$t is uglier, dumber, and less graceful.
I’m embarrassed to say I voted for RINO DeSwampis twice – the first time, enthusiastically; the second, holding my nose because he was the lesser evil. Now that he’s shown his true colors for the whole world to see, he will NEVER get another vote from me, no matter what he says or does, or who he runs against. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I refuse to let that backstabbing little swamp weasel fool me again.
And if, by some horrible twist of fate, this phony, narcissistic twit manages to steal the nomination, I’ll write in DONALD J. TRUMP John Hancock-style!
I couldn’t even hold my nose last fall.
Matt Gaetz is ready to be Florida’s Governor.
That’s an idea, but at this moment he is in that teensy cadre of winners holding the Congress majority together with spackle and duct tape.
I would not apologize for that. DeSantis has pushed for some good laws and some bad ones for Florida. But so far he has not pushed for any laws that would generally harm Florida’s citizens welfare.
He has accepted the bribe, which makes him part of the UniParty. As such he lost his trustworthiness to the working class of Smerica.
Brace yourselves, Floridians. Once DeSantis loses he’ll probably throw a temper tantrum and try to take his state down with him.
Time will tell if that is true.
DeSantis is a bully and a tyrant. The Disney thing is a great example.
Gov. DeSantis is sitting on a McDonald’s “ronnie rack,” getting cold. Customers look there when they enter and order fresh Trumpburgers. I feel for him. He’s done a good job as Florida’s governor but seems to be lacking in ethics, like integrity and loyalty. Think Gov., you are involved in sneaky activities to keep a former President from being re-elected. Why not an open national conversation about why he should not be re-elected? Don’t the people have a right to know?
Once Biden is eliminated, Wall Street will start fluffing whichever Dem is at the top of their heap.
Governor hair gel. Or big Mike.
I like the nickname “Gov Hair Gel” because for some reason I can never immediately recall the actual name of the current CA gov – it’s like my brain has blocked it out.
My bet is he won’t get the nod unless he does one thing. He’ll announce he’s trans and be home free. Right now he’s straight male and white – no chance in DNC hell.
The DeSantis candidacy has fallen flat on its face. His face value has fallen tremendously. He has no chance for 2024, and he may have ruined his chances for 2028.
Of course, all of that depends on whether or not authentic elections (sort of) will actually return.
Perhaps I’m being too harsh, but I now view DeSantis as a fraud.
You’re not being too harsh. That’s the perfect description.
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Follow-up –
To this day, there has not been a legitimate answer given on how she left Eastern Europe and ended up with the Governor of Florida.
There was never one on how Valerie Jarret got so close to the Obammunist either.
These are the hands holding the puppet strings that sundance talks about.
MAGA 👊👊🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
The “social issues” Desantis supports are not the first things on his citizens minds. He has killed their medical freedom bill replacing it with a useless farce, and has made voting machines mandatory, outlawing hand counts and/or challenges from citizens. Only government officials are allowed to challenge election results. Then, there is a bankrupt insurance fund, with a crook at the helm, limited availability of homeowners’ insurance, nad skyrocketing taxes and crime. Sunshine Utopia>? Not hardly, but those pressers are all about showmanship. Don’t forget to check for the results…
What DeSantis and his handlers have put forth as “social issues” are NOT the ones most important to the citizenry. They desperately want their medical freedom passed (which set forth their medical choices as a civil right, something Tallahassee didn’t like) but DeSantis put in one of his own, which only covered the now-expired Covid emergency. ALSO, he has outlawed hand-counts or citizen participation in election verification and made voting machines mandatory. Is there ANY doubt for whom he really works??
My humble opinion : the enemy within is making stuff up so President Trump will be indicted so he can run as President and win again in 2024. NOBODY can afford and take this constant beat up. He is like Samson he has a “unbelievable power”.
Also he did not take a salary for 4 years and has LOST money.
“Billionaire Hand cuff for speaking up about fraud money laundering Buffet, Bill Gate and Epstein and the downfall of woke culture and philanthropy is a virus “
DeSantis not.
Ron DeSantis has ruined his chances forever with me. He and Trump were friends; he might have been a loyal supporter; instead, he falls for the speculative lies of never Trumpers. He’s been a good governor but his political skills seem limited to pushback. Disney has been a great foil but it’s getting old. What has he done that shows foresight and imagination. I’m done.