A follow up to a series of events that is soon to get very deep in this site…
The second most asked question when talking about national political corruption is the question, “who’s they?” We often hear the opaque term “they”, but no one seems to give accurate context to it, so I will.
However, before getting to that point, allow me to begin with the end in mind.
If you want to know the most important thing you can do to save Our Republic, then first – get right with God. Get right with the purpose of the mission, before you even think about packing a bag to begin the effort. You ain’t got to be perfect, far from it, scruffy and messy works well; but you have got to be dead-plumb raw in admitting and accepting your fallible disposition. In many ways this is what “living your best life” is all about. As eloquently shared:
…”There is nothing more powerful in the universe than being connected and aligned with power of infinite truth, infinite strength, infinite well-being, infinite love, infinite joy, and all the other positive emotional feelings and desires that we humans desire.”
If you want to harness that power for your own life and purpose, get right.
Now, having read the responses to the previous question, it’s obvious we have a lot of new friends here. As I dive into sharing the details of our current national political construct, a baseline about party politics is needed.
If you think “Republicans” are the solution, then you don’t understand the construct of the ‘Big Club.’
Political parties were created to present you with: (1) a controlled outlet for your focus (pro-tip the Big Club “they” control it); and (2) the illusion of choice.
Now there are some differences between the two political parties – between the two wings of the same DC vulture.
• The DNC wants power. The RNC wants money.
• The DNC uses money to get power. The RNC use power to get money.
• The ideology of the DNC drives their donor activity. The ideology of the donors drives the RNC ideology.
This is the essential difference in their business models. This is also how the system works when you think about ‘money’ and raw ‘ideological power’.
Let me give you an example in current culture, around “wokeism“.
The social and cultural ideology of the left-wing is clear; they are pushing ideology. However, when you look at the right-wing corporate response, notice the focus is on money. The left is pushing a cultural revolution; the right is seeking to gain money in (a) corporate alignment, or (b) velvet-gloved combat against it.
The leftist ideology advances. Notice there is no ideological pushback against the cultural revolution from Congress. Why?… Money
Democrats know if they want to advance ideology, simply find a mechanism to pay Republicans. Easy peasy.
♦ Ukraine. IDEOLOGY: The agenda of the left-wing (Dems) is clear; they are pushing for an expanded totalitarian globalist agenda. MONEY: The right-wing response to the Ukraine ideology, is money. Congress funds the industrial military machine, the military contractors. The contractors repay politicians.
The globalist ideology advances. Notice, there is no ideological pushback against the White House and U.S. State Dept foreign policy from Congress.
Why?… money.
If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs power to advance your interests (think Big Tech), you align with Democrats. If you are an institution (or individual) and your enterprise needs money to advance your interests (think Wall St), you align with Republicans.
The left-wing wants power to advance ideology. The right-wing wants money. That’s why the Republicans never stop any of the Democrats’ ideological gains.
♦ Elections. IDEOLOGY: The ballot-harvesting agenda of the left-wing (DNC/dems) is clear; they have thousands of networked groups funded by donor activity (Zuckerbucks etc.), organized in every community to assemble ballots. MONEY: The right-wing response is to see the opportunity for fundraising…. Meanwhile, a massive network known as True The Vote, Catherine Englebrecht, with an army of skilled voter integrity grassroots operations, easily retooled to a ballot collection network, sits untapped.
This is the nature of the system that distracts us. Two wings of the same vulture. This is the inherent nature of U.S. politics in the big picture, and I can get as granular and specific as anyone might need – including the propositions for why club candidates are selected within the ‘illusion of choice’ game.
Back to the question: “Who’s they?“
♦ Consider the scale. Donald Trump is falsely prosecuted for a non-existent crime and tens of thousands of Americans send money to his campaign to show support. According to media outlets, Trump raised over $10 million in a few days from the average MAGA American. There are also claims that Ron DeSantis raised $30 million in the last few months from billionaires, hedge funds, Wall Street and multinational corporations during his not-a-campaign book tour.
Sounds good right? Well….
For scale, former Dianne Feinstein staffer Dan Jones, left the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in order to work as the liaison between private interests, contractors and government officials in the stop-Trump campaign. Within a week, Dan Jones created the Penn Quarter Group and raised $50 million to spend on the effort….
…. “They” gave it to him.
There are various “theys” within the system. One set of ‘theys” are the multinationals and billionaire donors who control the levers of power behind the Potemkin village we call Washington DC. George Carlin called them ‘the big club.’
The other set of “theys”, that few people talk about, are the operatives who work as the guards for the system. This is where the United States intelligence community, various opaque government agencies, and federal intelligence contractors come into play. I have met the participants.
The guards are paid to run domestic surveillance operations that are then funneled into the U.S. Justice System for official targeting operations conducted by the DOJ and FBI. These are tradecraft agents within quasi government agencies, most federal contract agencies, that target politicians and influential people with the specific intent on gaining leverage, blackmail, information etc, for use by those who retain and protect the system.
You could call these the “seven ways to Sunday crowd”, as defined by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Or you could call these people the “FBI contractors” who have access to the NSA database as part of their operational mission to conduct surveillance and create the files that ultimately end up with the “seven ways to Sunday crowd.”
It matters not what you call them, these men and women conduct targeting operations against U.S. citizens and U.S. businesses. They also create the files that are used by political operatives like Dan Jones. That’s why $50,000,000.00 was/is needed for the Trump operation.
All of the puppets, players and politicians within the Potemkin village are under this network of surveillance, and at any time they can be targeted by a host of tradecraft operations to ensnare them.
If you start digging into the actual corruption, schemes or a specific granular episode that highlights risk to the DC operation, you end up like former CBS news investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson, with “TSCI” material in a hidden file within your computer for the FBI to randomly find.
Former DAG Rod Rosenstein and FBI official Shawn Henry ran that specific operation against Attkisson. Shawn Henry went on to work for Crowdstrike in their “proactive and incident response services” division. That’s the intel security company that investigated the DNC “hack” and told the FBI it was Russians who did it…. at least that’s the claim from the FBI who never investigated the “hack”, a claim later denied by Crowdstrike. See how that works?
Yesterday you might have read that 40 intelligence and law enforcement “confidential human sources” were in the J6 Proud Boy’s operation at the DC capitol. That’s another example of the “theys” that function as contractors to the system within the larger intelligence apparatus. It all falls under the Director of National Intelligence and Dept of Homeland Security (DHS).
Another example of the “theys” in the system are the FBI and various “Intelligence Community” officials and contractors you see exposed in the Twitter files. Essentially, embeds in the Big Tech social media system. It sure makes datamining operations easier when the federally contracted ‘miners’ are inside the communication platforms, able to review all the private discussions and report that information back to the DHS central command. Things making sense now?
I have met these people. I know exactly who they are.
This is the reality of our situation. So, when you respond to my initial question about, “What do you want me to do?…. use this context.
And believe me, I’ll do it. I’m right with what matters!
Like a wise man once said, “The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”
1 Timothy 6:9-10 NKJV
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. [10] For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
The DNC wants power. The RNC wants money.
• The DNC uses money to get power. The RNC use power to get money.
• The ideology of the DNC drives their donor activity. The ideology of the donors drives the RNC ideology.
I would file this as one of the Robert Barne’s universal truths:
1) Sally Yates is corrupt
2) Epstein didn’t kill himself
3) “ The ideology of the DNC drives their donor activity. The ideology of the donors drives the RNC ideology.”
Given the above, there is one note of discomfort in the number 3) construct. That being, the D’s at least reflect the ideology (Interests) of their voter base, while the R’s reflect only the interests of a small group of donors.
We, the lifelong R voters are just extras in this Kabuki theater.
Yet, if this is the case then we do have some leverage. If we split our tickets and don’t vote for the Big Club Rinos, only the MAGA R’s will get elected.
This will be painful at first, i.e. big D majorities at Federal level with R super majorities in Red States. But this could lead to a state of insolvency of the GOPe and open the door to an “employee buyout” of the R’s in time.
How many hedge funds want to invest in a losing “closed-ended investment company”?
Scip,
I disagree with one aspect of your assessment. I have known many democrats, and can safely say that the they are not monolithic in their ideology. Most are apathetic, and if anything are swayed by the carefully crafted spin that democrat politicians use to IMPLY that they care about the people.
Most Democrats are such because their parents were, or they liked Truman, or whatever. MOST do not buy the communism BS.
On the other hand, the republicans play their part by consistently dropping little sound bites that allow the Democrats that space to make their “we care about you” claims. To wit, wasn’t it little bitch, Lyndsay Graham cracker who popped up after the 2022 and said something about having to do this or that to Social Security? It’s like Effing clockwork. both parties are corrupt.
I see space to move many Americans back to a place of unity. It can be done if they are willing to tear down the false divides.
At the end of the day, EVERYONE in America, but the few smoldering heathens, want what’s best for their kids.
My Democrat Mom shocked me recently, telling me that if she was raising her kids today she’d be homeschooling us!
I think for clarity sake that “Democrat” is and ‘Republican ” in terms of this artical are those in charge, and the cadre of ant farm workers who rabidly work to obtain thier goals. The citizens who are just trying to live their lives in the chaos created by the political parties in government do not identify with the leadership of either party and are looking for representatives that reflect them…but media has become unreliable and untruthful and most people are too busy to dig deep. That said, I share this site with as many people as I can…hoping some will wake up.
Demoncrats are all brainwashed lock step ignorants who are afraid to think independently!
True, and Republicans are impotent and flaccid. They are getting rich! They have no incentive to do the right thing. Sad to say but yep. God Bless
“D’s at least reflect the ideology (Interests) of their voter base…” is not what the sentence actually says and it is an important distinction: “drives their donor activity”. “Donor” isn’t the same as “voter base” I don’t think.
Sundance thank you for the reminder and lesson for the newbs regarding the nature of the parties and “them”.
Thank you for doing the heavy lifting to understand and express these difficult facts for our benefit.
Knowing the enemy and its nature is half of the battle, which allows us to rise, put on the armor of God, and fight every day. Without this knowledge we are simply flailing in the dark. Slashing at shadows.
The parties, and to an extent, even constructs like national sports are designed to promote tribalism, us and them, to keep
the populace divided, off balance, and weak.
Your message is timely.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Amen to that.
Here is an excellent and informative article to serve as a sort of complement to yours.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
From the March 28th, 2023 edition of Tablet Magazine
A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century
Thirteen ways of looking at disinformation
BY
JACOB SIEGEL
That is an awesome assessment! I agree what do we do now, what is there to do? It’s way to big for us to do anything logical. Unlogical solutions-We can’t organize without being found out and infiltrated. In my opinion if/when they outlaw AR15s and tell us to turn them in and/or they are coming to get them, that will start something OR if they JFK Trump. The only other thing would be wait for the collapse and then when some “entity” tries to take over the USA then something happens. Or it could be a large scale disaster natural or manmade. No matter what happens, being right with God gives us all the wisdom we need to stay in tune with how to handle whatever comes.
Prepare yourself and your family emotionally, spiritually, and physically to survive the inital onslaught of a collapse, however engineered the collapse might be. Their weapons will be fear and deprivation, and they will use them relentlessly. As they have been for years now. To resist, remember “Traditions are answers that have been discovered to enduring questions”.
Figuratively:
1. No man’s an island
2. An army marches on its stomach
3. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
Don’t let them isolate you.
Be as self-sufficient as possible.
Be prepared to resist using any means available and necessary.
Finally, a famous quote from MOH recipient Adm. James Stockdale who was held prisoner by the North Vietnamese communists for more than seven years:
“You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.”
I would say this how I think of it, but it’s the same thing: Cliches last because they’re easy-to-remember descriptions of human nature and life.
https://www.southernliving.com/culture/southern-grandma-sayings
The Big They Command And Control anything and everybody with reckless abandon. They are self centered self serving ruthless animals driven by pure demonic hate .
They can and will choke the life out of any who dare to challenge their authority and control .
Soon THEY will have it all and as history repeats they will choke on it only to blame their victims and start it over as the great unwashed slide down that razor blade of life
Yes.
Yup. Small groups.
The Left and Right have only one “ideology“. Pure Godless Greed and power over the swarms beneath them. Happy Easter Treehouse. 🥰
Is that you, Frankie? ❤️
Your request is humbling and will take time to answer.
Pray for our Republic!
I ask you to stay safe, and stay the course if possible. You are one of G-d’s lions who I pray for every night. We need several more, but that mantle is a heavy one. G-d bless you SD.
Staying one step ahead of the big club motives (as you have been) is a worthy pursuit and a great service to humanity. While many were fawning over Desantis, your posts here helped many (including me) understand why we didn’t like him at a gut level. Now, it seems the bloom is mostly off the rose.
The GOP is in it for money (paraphrasing) framework also helps explain why those we thought were conservative stalwarts (Chip Roy and Thomas Massie) are jumping on to a sinking ship.
All of the moves and machinations of the Big Club/Deep State would be bewildering if we could not visit here for some clarity.
You described the political parties perfectly. But the THEY who are at the top of the pyramid are the bankers, primarily the Central Banks and the Bank for International Settlements. The BIS is the driving force behind central bank digital currencies and all the Agenda 2030 and Agenda 2020 stuff. And the BIS, it’s employees, and it’s agents (whoever and whenever named) are totally immune from ALL the laws of every sovereign country. Meaning they answer to no one and to no law. So if you were to create a pyramid of power wouldn’t you make those at the very top immune from prosecution for their criminal acts? Well, they did and the nations went right along with it. You’ll know when we have a true conservative leader if that person want to get the USA out of the BIS, shut down the federal reserve, close down the Export Import Bank, USAID and exit the UN, WHO, NATO, OAS and every other globalist organization
Yes, the banking cartel is at the top of the pyramid and the power is behind the Great Reset. They have even openly declared their one world government plot to the US Senate:
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” -James Paul Warburg, whose family co-founded the Federal Reserve – while speaking before the United States Senate, February 17, 1950
The Bankers’ 100-Year Plan for World Government.
“Actually this goes back even before 100 years and specifically to 1662 and 1666 when the bankers took over from the era of sovereign money to the era of private money. There’s a great and short video by John Titus on this in which he read excerpts from Alexander Del Mar’s books. Highly recommend” (“New World Order Bankers and the American Revolution”- John Titus, Best Evidence youtube)
The Tower of Basel: The Shadowy History of the Secret Bank that Runs the World By Adam Lebor
https://archive.org/details/tower-of-basel-2013-by-adam-le-bor/mode/2up
Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England in the 1920s – “Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money and control credit, and with the slick of a pen they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from the bankers and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for this would be a better and happier world to live in. But if you want to continue as the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of slavery, let them continue to create money and to control credit.”
Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley in his 1966 book Tragedy and Hope – The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. The system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.
“The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is eager to enter into close relationship with the Bank for International Settlements.The conclusion is impossible to escape that the State and Treasury Departments are willing to pool the banking system of Europe and America, setting up a world financial power independent of and above the Government of the United States. The United States under present conditions will be transformed from the most active of manufacturing nations into a consuming and importing nation with a balance of trade against it.” – Louis T. McFadden (1876-1936), US Congressman (R-PA) (1915-1935), Chairman of House Banking and Currency Committee, quoted in the New York Times (June 1930), June 10, 1932. Poisoned in 1936
More from Congressman Louis McFadden: “When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and industrialists … acting together to enslave the world … Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers but the truth is–the Fed has usurped the government.”
“The world is … prepared to march towards a world government. The supra national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” David Rockefeller at the June 1991 Bilderberg meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany
“The big question is why hasn’t government and the Fed tried to solve the economic situation [in the United States]? The answer is they have no intention of doing so, because they want the public on their knees economically and financially so they can impose World Government.” Bob Chapman
“A purpose of the Bretton Woods system is to create a world government ruled by the banking elites, using the United Nations as the core of a political structure and the IMF as the world central bank. … The [global banking] elites understand that they will never be able to consolidate and hold their power by means of a gradualist program unless and until they are able to make the IMF the sole issuer of the world’s only important currency [the dollar].” G. Edward Griffin in his book “The Creature from Jekyll Island”
“The global financial elite of the Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations are making the plans [for a one world government]. The real name of the game is 1984. We will have systematic population reduction, forced sterilization or anything else which the planners deem necessary to establish absolute control in their humanitarian utopia. But to enforce these plans, you must have an all-powerful world government. You can’t do this if individual nations have sovereignty. And before you can facilitate the Great Merger, you must first centralize control within each nation, destroy the local police and remove the guns from the hands of the citizenry. You must replace our once free Constitutional Republic with an all-powerful central government.” – Gary Allen in his book “None Dare Call It Conspiracy”
well done and thank you.
Thanks!!
And in case you’re interested, there’s tons of info on the banking cartel and the plot here (after you scroll down): https://www.plutocracycartel.net/
Sundance, if you have met these people, they know who you are, where you are, and what you do.
So how have you remained outside their clutches?
Not asking for your security details, just a general answer would be interesting enough.
Because if you can give us deplorables a clue as to how to skate that line, we may become more emboldened to expose our flank to “they”.
Thank you, and wishes for a blessed Resurrection Sunday to you!
Maybe it’s not appropriate for me to insert my opinion, but I worry that Sundance is in too deep now if he knows who “they” are. That probably means they know who he is too. To take it further might put him in immediate jeopardy and I don’t want that for him nor his family.
Sundance is a hero and a warrior. We know that from his efforts during the devastating hurricane Ivan. He has done the same in previous hurricanes. Time for this to stop before “they” decide to shut him down. If we can’t go as an army of many, we can’t be a party to expecting one man to represent all of us. I’m thinking we need him right here more.
I want for him what he wants for us……Sundance, go and live your best life.
First the good news for which Sundance buried the lede:
“. . . it’s obvious we have a lot of new friends here.”
Naturally, newbies chafe at the first firewall built decades ago. That was that Conspiracy Theories, as selectively defined and labeled by authority, are embarrassing in the extreme for those who might consider them because they’re an impossibility. “Ha ha, someone would talk . . . ”
That’s not working anymore, even middle schoolers can see that most participants in the system have been conditioned to know their place. From the initiation of Trump Must Go!, a still ongoing effort of everyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, the not at all unreasonable calculation that they would get him in the end fueled their malefactions.
Yet, it didn’t go according to plan so they were forced to choose institutional discredit for the alternative would have been to give up the impunity they had to promise lest the whole edifice collapse.
If you’re among our new “friends,” you’ve rejected the smart play. To his credit, Sundance has emphasized each of us engaging in mindfulness of our you and yours in choosing to bear this cross.
That’s why, unless I miss my mark, Sundance is schooling in Who’s “They?” With Conspiracy Theories now cascading as Conspiracy Fact, the fallback is, essentially, “Okay, smart guy, who’s this they that’s pulling all the strings.” Give the devils their due, in some important respects its a more effective neutralizer. It shifts the burden and, as Sundance’s monumental accomplishments reveal, it requires enormous time and mental discipline.
The 2020 election steal is emblematic of what I’m getting at in terms of not playing along with their burden-shifting and is contained in the following question I asked since right after the election, never getting an answer from those trafficking in this Big Lie: When did you come to believe that Biden won the election and why?
Dear Sundance,
My thought is that you are right where I need you to be. Your worth as a sage, a righteous prophet and a truth-teller cannot be equaled in our present situation. However, if God is preparing you to take a new step, I’ll be with you.
I found that the responses to your question have a lot of ideas as food for thought. Come let us reason together as to what We The People as citizens must decide to do. The fight begins, belongs to and depends on all of us who love God, family and country. “No weapon formed against you shall prosper.” God has promised it as long as we uphold Him!
Saw someone post this on a substack about a year ago and thought it fit with this entry by SD… although it fits with many entries…
“ Let us examine The Very Real and Duplicitous Function of the Two Party System in the American Political Universe.
The two parties play an indispensable role in society’s political machinery. This doesn’t mean they have any real power, in terms of controlling the state or setting policy. It means that without the existence of the Two Party System, the US could no longer maintain the pretense that it’s a “democracy.”
If either Party disintegrated tomorrow, the US would be revealed for what it really is — a One-Party state ruled by a narrow alliance of business interests. Both party’s true function is largely theatrical. They don’t exist to fight for change, but only to create the illusion that one fine distant day they might possibly bestir themselves to fight for change.
Thus the whole magic of The Two Party Show — the essential service it renders to the US power structure — lies not in what they do, but in their mere existence: by simply existing, and doing nothing, they pretend to be something they are not; and this is enough to quell unrest and to let the system portray itself as a “democracy.”
As long as the two parties exist, most Americans will believe we have a “democracy” and a “choice” in how we are ruled. They will not despair, and will not revolt, as long as they have this hope for “change within the system.”
From the system’s point of view, this mechanism serves as the ultimate safety valve — it ensures against a despairing populace, thus eliminates the threat of rebellion; yet guarantees that no serious change to the system will be mounted.
To understand the US political system, one must step back and regard its operation as an integrated whole. The system can’t be properly understood if one’s view of it begins with an uncritical acceptance of the 2-party system, and the conventional characterizations of the two parties. The fact that the establishment encourages one to view it in this latter way is a warning that this perspective should not be trusted.
Any given piece of reactionary legislation is invariably supported by a higher percentage of Republicans during one term or by Democrats in the next.
If one focuses on the noble efforts of a few outspoken dissenters, it’s easy to feel that on any given issue one party is somewhat less evil. But in the larger picture, Party D invariably submits to what Party R more ardently promulgates until the next issue where the script gets flipped.
Thus the overall function of the system is not to fight for everyday people, but to participate in this ever shifting totalitarian process. Just as the Harlem Globetrotters need their Washington Generals to make their basketball games properly entertaining, Republicans and Democrats need each other for effective staging of the political show.”
This seems to be a group of educated people looking for “what do we do now”. A substack writer The Good Citizen has come up with a novel idea: Change voter affiliation to D for the 24 election and vote for RJKjr. As a warring tactic against the machine they hopefully won’t see coming. He outlines some very good reasons for doing this. At first glance, I could not see it. It brought up some jarring emotions. I’ve been following what he has to say throughout the scamdemic. Read his book “The Real Anthony Fauci…” He knows how the system works. I don’t want to see him murdered like his uncle and father. He obviously feels confident now that he has announced candidacy as D.
I think Kennedy’s main focus is return to Rule of Law. If we had a truly functioning Justice Dept from the top down, non-political in nature we might just start to turn around the ship-of-state. Check it out: The Good Citizen posted this week.
How does my voting as a Dem for RFK Jr. help President Trump get elected? No snark here.
How does a Dem who believes in the global warming/climate change hoax help us fight the Great Reset?
Gods wins against those that are in rebellion against Him.
Our time trapped in this hopeless situation is very short compared to His plans and timeline.
Our own fellow citizens have removed peaceful options to resolution. Truthful information, assembly, speech, asking their “representatives” tough questions, etc. They have fearsome surveillance, weaponization of all areas of government, and soon, control of everyone’s finances.
Many people in history have been enslaved and oppressed for decades, imprisoned and killed. Why is the America, that has abandoned God, and its people who are ingrates of the abundance and freedoms that have been given to them, any different ?
Demographics and dynamics cannot be denied. New classes of the indoctrinated graduate every year while patriots pass on. The indoctrinated are moving out of their enclaves and are polluting patriot areas.
What we can do is continue to expose the Uniparty bird, especially the R wing. We can mock their inaction and illusion of choice. We can hurt them financially. We can prevent them from gaining office, unless you believe any R elected is better than any D. Although they are not easily embarrassed there will be questions, maybe ramifications, maybe an opening, when that wing is no longer able to help the Uniparty bird fly.
I have read a few posts here about prayer. Why should I pray more than once about something? Why doesn’t God answer my prayer? Or I have heard someone I know say, I gave up on God because he didn’t answer my prayer (this person was praying to keep a husband that was a drunkard and from my point of view she was better off without him)
Faith is about believing things not seen.
Dr. Michael Brown, has a short essay on prayer. I think it is timely and a refresher for all Christians being moved to be an Intercessor for America.
https://stream.org/prayer-is-mightier-than-the-pen/
Peace
My first time posting here, I have read this blog for years and have always enjoyed the eye opening you give me.
I have to say I am saddened with what my generation ( I am 61)has left, we allowed this to happen and gave no shits when we could have stopped it, at this late date I am afraid of what the only recourse left to stop this insanity.and how many “inside” will turn “brown shirt” and turn the blind eye or worse propagate the violence the Gvt will unleash upon us peons
We are Rome 476
Constantinople 1453
Lepanto, 1571. Just my way of sayin’ I haven’t given up.
And … welcome here:)
So I know this is late in the game, my M.O. Like the Luciferians or Rockefeller types, who I can only imagine have advanced plans for the planet and humanity, sit coldly calculating the Army gorilla tactics and AI tech fantasies to bring about the destruction of mankind and turn the ones who are left into breeders and slaves at all levels, do we as Christian soldiers use tactics like the Israelite’s to thwart and destroy the Luciferians with a type of warfare, yes prayer, but other sophisticated means. Maybe this subject has already been broached, but, Sundance, given your knowledge, could it be possible to run a counter underground country based on Liberty? I know I am very elementary in my thinking but I like to dream!
As a community there is such a wealth and breadth of talent here, that I can only hope for an outcome that we have a part in making American Great Again! Thank you Sundance for “Opening the Floor” for discourse, how refreshing and beautiful!!
Happy Resurrection Day to all Treepers! Praise God He led me here! Thank you Admin, tough job handling a bunch of rabble-rousers! Blessings in the Name above all names, Jesus the risen Christ, King of the Universe, coming soon!
The apostle Paul recognized the reality of spiritual warfare when he wrote, “Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.”
I can’t tell you how many times that has been posted here. And every single time, I read it word for word because it is so appropriate to this time and place. Thank you for posting it on Holy Saturday. Somehow that seems appropriate, too.
I’m a bit long in the tooth but I’m right with God and donate money to Trump (not “win red”), Sundance and individual MAGA candidates.
shine the light..
Atom and Eve
@AtomandEve_
Replying to
@charliekirk11
I feel like every time I see a family represented on a commercial the mother is white, the father is black, and somehow the baby Hispanic only in America LMFAO Leftards are EVIL as Rosemary’s baby.. Every time I turn over a rock a snaked is found with Democrat tattooed on it body
I also think strategically placing powerful speakers in leftist cities with PDJTs recent response to the Bragg indictment would be excellent on repeat. No good human can think that message is evil or bad. My little one loves it and makes me play it over and over.
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1641827495426113536/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1641827495426113536¤tTweetUser=bennyjohnson
What do I want you to do?
Nothing I wouldn’t do myself. Nothing that God wouldn’t send His son to do and nothing that God hasn’t commanded us to. Nothing that is a repeat of proven failed efforts.
What do I want you to do?
What hasn’t been done? What hasn’t been tried?
I will tell you. No one has ever been you and no one will ever be other than you, yourself.
What would I have you do?
I would have you do what only you and God can see fit for you to do. I would have you be exactly where you are right now armed with this information.
This war takes all of us. Us being all who are fighting. And where ever we are fighting from, that’s everywhere we can be fighting.
So what is unique about your position? Even if your position is the same as everyone else’s, it is unique because they aren’t in it, you are.
What would I have you do? I would have you do what God put you here to do, today and every day in the future that you will call today. I can tell you, that is what I want you to do because it is what I want me to do too.
When it feels like there’s nothing else left to do, that is where you find the freedom from what has been done and the space to discover what will be done.
What would I have you do? I would have you tell me what you have decided to do.
Its time to make a list when the USA fails as a country who do we go after #1 on my List Soros #2 Gates and many so many Uni Party politicians cant name them all in here in this space..
A place to find out how to get involved in the fight
https://www.americasfuture.net/
Republicans are moral . Democrats are not.
“They” are the central bankers who control the money of almost all nations thus controlling those nations. They send the U.S. in to destroy Anyone who tries to fight off the central bank (Libya, Iran, Afghanistan). The same ethnic tribe has been in control since it all started. “They” have started every major war since WWI. “They” buy off our traitorous politicians just as they bought off Judas to betray Jesus. NAME THEM!
Yes, “they” are the central bankers who have captured most (all?) governments by getting the power to issue the national currency, printed/created out of thin air and loaned to governments at interest. Governments are in debt to private bankers for money that never existed, money the governments could have printed and issued themselves (Federal Reserve is as “federal” as Federal Express).
And yes, the banking cartel uses the captured US government to beat the rest of the world into submission. When Gadaffi tried to help all of Africa break free from the death grip of the banking cartel with his gold Dinar, they used NATO to destroy his nation and he was given a brutal death. And of course, Libya’s gold was stolen. (I think gold has been stolen elsewhere too)
More on that here- discussed in the email from Sid Blumenthal to Hillary:
Hillary Emails Reveal NATO Killed Gaddafi to Stop Libyan Creation of Gold-Backed Currency
https://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-emails-reveal-nato-killed-gaddafi-to-stop-libyan-creation-of-gold-backed-currency/5594742
For more on the connection between the central bankers and the wars see:
Bill Still’s The Money Masters
Mike Rivero’s All Wars Are Bankers Wars
And for more info on our debt-based monetary system:
Money as Debt (45 min documentary)- if we paid off the debt, there would be no money in circulation
Ellen Brown’s Web of Debt
G Edward Griffin’s The Creature from Jekyll Island
They Own It All (Including You) By Means of Toxic Currency (newpeopleorder.com)
“Central banks have utilized and promoted wars for their own profit, starting with the Rothschild involvement with the Napoleonic wars, and continuing up to the present day.” – G. Edward Griffin in his book “The Creature from Jekyll Island”
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)
“… The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.” -Thomas Jefferson
“The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live inBut, if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, president of the Bank of England in the 1920s, the second richest man in Britain, speaking at the Commencement Address of the University of Texas in 1927
“If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon.” Robert H. Hemphill, former Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga., 1935
More info here: https://www.plutocracycartel.net/ (scroll down for tons of quotes from researchers and books that you can find elsewhere online free pdfs)
Dear Sundance, I wonder if you will actually see this reply given it will most likely be buried in the last page of a hot thread, but here goes.
You gave us an assignment to use the context of the Who’s “They?” essay and existing DNC/RNC dynamics to provide you possible direction for doing more.
[fyi, I fully agree that status quo is a perfectly rational decision given the risk attached to you stepping outside or beyond your CTH brainchild.]
The Idea
Go BIG on your strength. Use your your trove of research, your expertise in website administration, your inside knowledge of the swamp, and your incredible communication/writing skills to mastermind a full media solution with existing patriot networks. The idea is to not reinvent the wheel but rather use the wheel for different modes or outcomes.
The Problem
On a daily basis, chasing down multiple patriot news sources is inefficient for the end user who is challenged with adapting to multiple platforms, limited accessibility, varying rules, print vs. audio vs. video, etc. Reviewing multiple independent sources, although good initially for learning/screening and a necessity of limited options, eventually leads to preferred viewing lists of sites and news deciphering fatigue.
Solution Building Using the DNC Dynamic
• The DNC wants power.
• The DNC uses money to get power.
• The ideology of the DNC drives their donor activity
• The Left is pushing social and cultural ideology.
1) The MAGA movement is replete with its own ideology that is highly successful (as we know from the uniparty hating it). Lean in to the ideology and expand it 10x its current reach.
2) Offer a virtual spot for congregation of online writing leaders across the news spectrum – there are too many to list and other Treepers have identified many.
3) Embrace alternate influencers to challenge the status quo (e.g., Shellenberger and Matt Taibbi).
4) Create a Public Community Media “Bill of Rights” from the outset to encourage good outcomes, conscribe bad behaviors, and bounce infiltrators to the curb.
5) Make the new media network robust against the Intelligence Community by reinforcing the Public Community having a right to uncensored news. This is a cornerstone to the patriot ideology which the IC will want to crush. We need smart geeks that understand the workings of the IC.
6) Establish a mechanism to crawl through the internet for up and coming, fresh resources (people, tools, processes) that can be properly vetted for possible collaboration or use.
7) Use the MAGA ideology to involve and attract all patriots and wannabes with special events (e.g., countrywide patriot peaceful meetup events as indicated earlier). These special events should be fun and meaningful, encourage donor activity, and drive MAGA awareness to ultimately increase 1+1+1+… energy and power. As we know, MAGA needs to outlive Trump.
8) Find multiple ways to interact directly with the Public Community on a daily basis. Something more interesting than a polls-only approach would be necessary.
Solution Building Using the RNC Dynamic
• The RNC wants money.
• The RNC uses power to get money.
• The ideology of the donors drives the RNC ideology
• The right is seeking to gain money in (a) corporate alignment, or (b) velvet-gloved combat against it.
1) Power broke existing powerful sources in patriot media (e.g., Mike Lindell/FrankTV, Trump’s Truth Social, Bannon/WarRoom, Greg Hunter/USA Watchdog, James O’Keefe/OMG, etc.) to provide context and legitimacy of the new media network, if not full or limited partnership with it. There exist decent/good/successful platforms in the writing/audio/video space to target.
2) Approach Elon Musk to bypass traditional internet/television media solutions and find a way to leverage his Starlink satellite stuff.
3) Create interesting marketing angles for the new media network which would attract large money sources from corporations.
4) Investigate atypical revenue streams (e.g., Elon/Twitter) that retain centralized power (e.g., avoid lessons learned from Project Veritas). New solution cannot and should not compete with the government sponsored propaganda mainstream sources that are subsidized USD 1-2 MM daily.
5) Use new platform to spotlight non-patriot businesses that would be targeted for product/service boycotts. Apply opposite spotlight for buycotts of solid patriot companies (leverage PublicSquare?).
Happy Easter to everyone!
well done, with the exception of involving Elon Musk! Mr. Musk is a trojan horse; he is not on our side!
In my response to Sundance’s previous question, I suggested he connect with Clay Clark’s Reawaken America tour and involve General Mike Flynn, Eric Trump (who also speaks at the event), Kash Patel, Mel K. and any number of the other speakers at the event.
By sharing and disseminating everything he knows, he can in effect enlist a cadre of like-minded people who already have many of the pieces he has presented, and Sunlight can be shone from many different points as well as connecting with Eric Trump to get the information passed on to PDJT.
The Reawaken America Tour will be in Trump-Doral, Miami in May.
I would not, under any circumstances involve Elon Musk!
Why do we want to save our country? This question lies at the root of our problem.
The White Army wasn’t able to defeat the Reds because the Whites were not united in belief and purpose: to restore the Orthodox Tsar and the piety of all the people. Some of them just wanted to go back to the status quo.
Similarly, if we want to save the United States for the sake of going back to the status quo: relative freedom, personal enjoyment, wealth, etc., then why should God help us?
God told Abraham He’d save Sodom if He found 10 righteous within it. There are several examples in the Old Testament of God only using those of the most pure faith and trust in Him to deliver His people. And in the Christian era, we have examples like the supernatural slaying of Julian the Apostate, and countless other miracles of deliverance from overwhelming odds. One great example is when Tamarlane was invading Russia, a saintly bishop processed with a miracle-working icon of the Mother of God, and the Theotokos literally came and scared away the horde. Modern history just records that Tamarlane inexplicably turned the horde around after almost reaching Moscow.
We should want to save the US for the sake of repentance, for the sake of allowing more people to be saved, to seek the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us God.
So what should you do? I think you should continue to seek the truth. I believe the truth is in the Orthodox Church, specifically those who did not go along with the corruptions that hugely picked up in the 20th century (new calendar, Ecumenism).
On a large scale, I think what the populace needs is a better understanding of the “System.” The “System” is my explanation of “they.” They are the system of western institutions, originating from Christianized Rome and Byzantium, but continually corrupted after the Great Schism and the fall of Constantinople. These institutions have replaced God in the hearts and minds of man. *This System defines truth.* What our scientists “discover,” what our educators teach, what our news reports, what our governments decide, what our agencies administer, what our healers treat, what our corporations produce, etc., could not possibly be united in a single conspiracy against mankind.
“Why have the heathen raged and *the peoples meditated empty things?* The kings of the earth were aroused, and *the rules were assembled together, against the Lord,* and against His Christ.”
We need to get more people to realize these institutions are headed and staffed by people who are assembled against the Lord and against His Christ.
My personal favorite avenue for this discovery is science, specifically geocentrism. Geocentrism is so heavily ridiculed, despite overwhelming evidence for it, because, according to Hubble:
“Such a condition would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central earth. The hypothesis cannot be disproved but it is unwelcome and would be accepted only as a last resort in order to save the phenomena. Therefore, we disregard this possibility and consider the alternative, namely, a distribution which thins out with distance.”
https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Sept04/Hubble/Hubble3_2.html
MAGA 👊👊🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸 Excellent primer.
Simple answer is, the they are described in ” Ephesians 6:12 King James Version: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” In other words the Satanic forces which are under the control of Satan, who has been cast down to earth and knows he only has a short time before his ultimate defeat at the hands of Jesus Christ our Lord.
We are in a spiritual battle of the ages, which is only now manifesting in the physical plane.
‘Who are THEY?’It reminds me of the pivotal moment in the old ‘Wild Bunch’ movie when the outlaws are aimlessly killing their way out of Texas and into Mexico.Edmund Obrien asks the question of his fellow outlaws.He was strangely subtle in asking just what they feared so much about people they thought had power over their fate.Asking the question made them think about their lives and motivation,and turned them from outlaws killing for their own profit to making their last act in life into a noble,if horrifically bloody sacrifice.Who are we so afraid of?
I read the question the first time you (Sundance) asked, and thought….. wow, if he doesn’t know, then I sure don’t!
I, and probably everyone here, have been asking that very thing now for years.
All I can offer are some thoughts I’ve had, that probably echo other posts (sorry if so), since I haven’t been able to read them all.
In studying organizational structure for a college course, the structure like the Hydra was most enduring. It had many heads, was not authoritarian, so when one leader was lost another soon took his place. These are usually loosely organized, close to the ground (grassroots), and based on ideology. Successful but difficult to wield, and difficult to destroy. “They” sometimes seem like a Hydra, with all these heads popping up in so many places.
You can defeat a Hydra with massive numbers – huge resistance. We aren’t there yet. Someone earlier on this forum said an army marches on its stomach, and I often agree. Unfortunately, in this case…. the numbers aren’t hungry enough yet.
I suppose if you can’t defeat a Hydra with overwhelming opposition, you have to slowly starve it. If the “they hydra” feeds on money and power, then those opposed to it need to operate outside the spheres of money and power. Maybe instead of trying to break open the silos and shine light on the “eye” and outsmart the Fourth Branch, we find a way to turn our backs on it all, remove our assets and power from their system.
Honestly I’m thinking out loud and this probably would end up with us flattened. But maybe it will jog an idea in someone else. All I know is most of my good fellow Americans aren’t up to anything major. They are just trying to make-do and not make waves. So any solution will need to be relatively easy for everyone to adopt. Very few are willing to take a risk, sad to say.
Final thought…. this is ultimately a spiritual battle, and this planet is, sooner or later, heading to a massive spiritual war. So when we each, individually, choose who we serve – when we decide what is most important to us and what we want out of this life – if we choose the sacrificial life of following Christ where He leads, rather than striving for money or recognition, we are starving the hydra of the greed and power it feeds on. That is something we each can do while we wait for the big solution to all this. I find that encouraging, and something I can do now.
I would rather say that they are the billionaire oligarchy class that drives forward the uniparty. Take Jennifer Pritzker who donated to the Trump’s campaign and now is one of the largest donors of the transactivism. Even right of center billionaires like John Arnold donated $45 million to left wing causes like no bail reform in NYC. George Soros the Democratic mega-donor has directed his wealth into an under-the-radar 2016 campaign to advance one of the progressive movement’s core goals —reshaping the American justice system.
The billionaire financier has channeled more than $3 million into seven local district-attorney campaigns in six states over the past year — a sum that exceeds the total spent on the 2016 presidential campaign by all but a handful of rival super-donors. His money has supported African-American and Hispanic candidates for these powerful local roles. The Tides Foundation is the philanthropic Left’s best-kept secret. From Greenpeace to the anti-Israel J Street, there’s hardly a left-wing group that hasn’t taken Tides money. Using a sophisticated funding model, Tides has grown into the leading platform for laundering away ties between wealthy donors and the radical causes they fund—while generating hundreds of new organizations along the way. In 2021, Jon Stryker and husband Slobodan Randjelović gave $15 million to the ACLU Foundation to focus on LGBTQ and HIV issues. Bloomberg who used to be a Republican who is coming after our guns. Then you have Gates, Buffet the Walmart and Apple heirs. And you get the picture. Vanguard & Blackrock… THEY are funding out destruction.
Per April 7, cth posts:
Whom… is ‘they’ ?
( answered)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/07/whos-they/