On July 31, 2022, According to Manchin a deal between himself, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden included his support for the green energy spending bill, in exchange for two new items in future legislation: 1) Streamlined energy permitting/regulation; and 2) Increased development of Oil, Coal, Gas. After getting his vote, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer reneged on the deal.
Today Senator Manchin inferred he wants that promise fulfilled in order to gain his support for a debt ceiling increase and a budget package. [Transcript Below] Manchin also hedged on his own political aspirations for 2024, saying he will make a decision at the end of this year. WATCH:
[Transcript] – SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Good morning, Brennan. Thank — Margaret, thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to start on that derailment.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The president last week praised bipartisan railway safety legislation that would have new rules for trains carrying hazardous materials, increased fines for safety violations, phase in newer cars.
Will you vote for it? Is that sufficient?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes, I’m going to be supporting that. We need to do it.
Back in 2015, in Mount Carbon in West Virginia, we had a derailment, 27 cars, tanker cars carrying Bakken oil. It went off the tracks and derailed and exploded and caused a tremendous problem there. And it was very, very dangerous. It could have been a little — a lot worse, if it had been a little farther down the tracks, could have torn up a whole town.
But with that we were recommended that the electronic pneumatic brakes should be something — should be considered that might prevent this, routine maintenance checks and auditing and things of this sort. I don’t think any of that has been done.
And it’s time for us to get serious about this. We’re moving many, many products, many more products on the rails and on our roads than we ever did before. And we have a lot of people who don’t want any pipelines. Pipelines would help alleviate a lot of this problem with the oil that we need in our country and we will be using for quite some time to do it safer.
But out of sight, out of mind. They are thinking, if you don’t have a pipeline, you won’t be using the product. Well, that’s far from the truth. And this is the results of people just not making good decisions. And it’s what’s broken in — in — in West Virginia. And — and…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … broken across the country as far as in Washington, the politics.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: It’s broken. It needs to be fixed.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want — I want to come back to energy in a moment.
You’re saying it’s broken. You gave a pretty fiery speech a few days ago in the Senate. You’re at odds with the White House and with many in your own party because you are saying that Democrats need to talk about out-of- control spending and are refusing to negotiate.
You did ding Republicans for not offering specific cuts. If you are the dealmaker — you seem to be positioning yourself there — where is it that you see room for negotiation?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, Margaret, first of all, I encourage Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
I was hoping that he would, first of all, take things off the table that doesn’t cause a conflict, but most — most importantly, sit down with the president. And reached out to the White House. They did sit down, had a meeting. I’m encouraging much more of that.
But what we can do is, can’t we get together and just talk about how do we have this much debt accumulated this — in this short of a period of time? Within 10 years, Margaret, we have accumulated the greatest amount of debt in the history of our country in the shortest period of time. Can’t we at least find out what we did and how we expanded?
I know that COVID did so much of it. But, you know, we’re past the COVID…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … problems. And what we need to do is to get back to normal.
But we’ve gone from $3.5 trillion in spending to over $6.2 trillion in spending every year in the last 10 years. That’s just unacceptable. You’ve got to sit down. Anybody that thinks we don’t have a problem in Washington, anybody that thinks that the politics is not broken in Washington is not living in reality, does not want to face the facts and the truth.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
So — so, what is the truth here? Because Social Security and Medicare make up nearly 40 percent of spending in 2023. If no one is touching those programs, where are you finding the cuts?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, first of all, just do our job on time.
We’ve been told that, if we just had a budget done — we don’t even have a budget anymore. The president is — is a month late in putting his budget out, which will come out next week. But I don’t see the House or the Senate bringing a budget forward. And, basically, by a piece of legislation was passed back in 1985, we’re supposed to have our budgets…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … from the House and the Senate done by April the 1st.
The president basically submits his in February, and, by September the 30th — I’m told there’s billions and billions of dollars of savings just right there if we just do it on time.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure. But that’s not…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: We’re not even doing that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That — right.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: That’s what I say it’s, not working. That’s…
MARGARET BRENNAN: But that — but…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: But it gets a downward trajection, basically, and capping…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, but more has to be done…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: How about capping some of the…
MARGARET BRENNAN: … done than that. I mean, you know…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes, capping some of the discretionary spending.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You — OK.
Well, there’s a lot to talk about right there. But I want to ask you, what is Joe…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Hey, Mar…
MARGARET BRENNAN: What is Joe Manchin looking for in this deal? Are you looking for your permitting reform, for example, that Democrats didn’t deliver on, though they had told you that you would have an agreement on?
Are you looking for that to be tucked into a potential bill in this agreement that you’re saying has to be struck between Republicans and Democrats?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, rather — tucking something in, we’re not trying to hide anything, basically.
If we don’t do permitting, and we don’t have permitting reform in America, we’re not going to meet the challenges and be energy-independent energy- secured. If you’re not energy-secured, you’re definitely not going to be a superpower of the world, and depending on other parts of the world to provide what you won’t do for yourself.
That has to be done. I don’t care what side of the arena you’re on, if you want transmission, if you want pipelines, if you realize we’re going to have a balanced energy proposal. That’s what the Inflation Reduction Act was for, energy security. The administration, this administration has touted that as strictly an environmental bill.
It’s good for the environment, but it’s also very, very necessary for us to have the fossil energy…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … using it better and cleaner than anywhere in the world to have the security we need. That’s what we need to do. And that’s what they’ve been avoiding.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: You have to have permitting. If not, all this is going to be voided.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about what appears to be some separation between you and the president.
You were quoted a few days ago as saying: “We’re just in different ball games. We’re not even in the same ballpark on many things.”
Are you going to endorse Joe Biden if he runs for reelection?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Oh, there’s plenty of time for the election. This is the problem with America right now. We start an election every time there’s a cycle coming up.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, he’s the leader of your party.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I — I — no, the bottom line is, let’s see who’s involved. Let’s wait until we see who all the players are. Let’s just wait until it all comes out.
My main purpose right now is to work for my country and my — and my state. That’s my responsibility. I’m not going to make my announcement for anything until the end of the year. I’m not going to make a decision what my political position is going to be or where I’m going to do for my political future.
I won’t do it until the end of the year. I got too much work to do now.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Your political future, you mean the question of whether you personally are going to run for reelection in the Senate in West Virginia.
Your Republican governor, Jim Justice, says he’s going to run for your seat, or he thinks he’s got a good shot at it. Why haven’t you made up your mind?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: There’s too — the bottom line, I got plenty of time to make up my mind. The election is not until November 2024. We don’t even file until January of 2024.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: And to be running and basically — not basically looking at the problems you have, we’ve got a runaway debt. We got inflation that’s killing people.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: We’ve got an unsecured energy. We have a border that’s out of control.
You’re telling me we’re in the same ball game or the same ballpark? I don’t think so.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You said let’s see who all the players are when it comes to running for president.
You’ve said you’re not running for president. Is that an open question, though? Who — who do you think…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything about that.
I — the bottom line is, I will make my political decision in December, whatever it may be.
MARGARET BRENNAN: To run for president?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I’m not taking anything off the table, and I’m not put — and I’m not putting anything on the table.
I said I will make a decision in January — at this — at the end of this year.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’ll make a decision at the end of this year as to…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Simply that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: … as to who you will endorse for president?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: What my political future will be, what…
MARGARET BRENNAN: No, but for president.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: What I will be involved with, how I will be involved.
I will be making — any decisions I make politically will not be done until the end of the year. I’m focused on fixing what’s wrong with Washington. And the politics are so toxic, the more you talk about this party, that party, what candidate and this candidate.
Look at what you have facing you right now. You’ve got inflation. You’ve got, basically, energy. You’ve got these unsecured borders. You’ve got geopolitical unrest. And we’re talking about everything but that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We are — we have a lot to talk about.
And, Senator Manchin, you’re welcome back.
(LAUGHTER)
MARGARET BRENNAN: We got to leave it there, because…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I’m happy to come back, Margaret, any time.
Fry him in boiling oil
Wtlt01: Gas stove or electric?
Now, now, you know that people are not allowed to use gas. 😉
The guy must have known he was going to get screwed.
boil him in frying oil !
Lights…camera….and…Inaction! So much useless theater
That about sums it up perfectly.
He wanted to be “duped”
. He is a demonrat. Judge him by his actions.Manchin said:
‘Fool me forty times…
Shame on me’ 🙂
FJM likes playing “pick up the soap” in the shower with his dirty friends.
That’s why he’s such a G-D loser!
He loooooves losing so much!!
Thank you. He screwed the country, now he’s acting the victim. I’d like to push his nose over to his ear
Makes it easier for people to believe when he becomes a republican.
Was, is and always will be a phony. Anything positive this worm has ever done is for the purpose of preserving his political future in WV. If he can vote left and thinks he can survive politically he will do it. End of story.
And so many RINOs wanted him to switch parties…
They still do. He would fit in perfectly with their weaselly group.
Would prefer if they were honest, and switched parties!
“They were honest,…”?what am I saying!
As a matter of expedience.
Man-Chin won’t survive the GOP primary in WV if he did switch.
If you deal with the devil, that’s what you get. Please don’t whine about it later.
He does have a couple of good ideas ; uncap the pipelines and cap the spending.
Words. His actions betray him.
Stopped clock syndrome.
Enough Joe, your actions speak louder than your BS.
If Joe said he was ”Bamboozled” and I would have a tiny bid of respect for him. He didnt so he should enjoy retirement in WV and build a big wall around his house.
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He wasn’t bamboozled. The guy was a business executive. He’s just a liar.
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If Manchin had any integrity he never would have made a ‘deal’ with scoundrels. Manchin in fact voted for more runaway spending, so it’s rich that he’s pretending to care about it now.
What a fraud…..for 30 pieces of silver or 30,000 in todays currency.
really no need to watch the same ole bs unless you’re new to the resistance.
They’ll just renege again. I suspect he knows that. This guy is a joke!
He is either an idiot believing in the promises of known compulsive liars, or he is one of the compulsive liars himself. Neither is a good look. No wonder he is looking forward to a long career in politics.
Does the world revolve around this Manchin character?
What a pathetic, worthless schlub! 😠
When a person makes a deal with the Devil, they may be one also!!
There are 3 types of people in this world
1. Those who know it’s a game
2. Those who don’t know it’s a game
3. Those who don’t understand either 1 or 2, are the pawns in the game.
Had my attention when he initially addressed her as “Brennan” but it went kissy kissy after that.
Kissy kissy? Ugh the thought of that
Whats that old saying Joe? No honor among thieves?
Manchin: “But you said…”
Biden: “I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”
(empire theme music swells)
Talk about “quid pro quo” — Schumer, Pelosi, et al reneged?? I’m shocked (sarc).
Next, Sinema says she was duped about something and will not support something until the border is secure, or something
It’s what they DO and how they SMELL! Rats always manage to stay in the shadows and say very little. This guy is a rat!
Instead of discussing under which conditions they will vote to raise the debt cieling, need to say under NO conditions,…but they won’t, of coarse.
The only thing that will end the madness, is when the U.S.$ is no longer the Worlds Reserve Currency, and there is no more “Petrodollar”.
THAT is ultimately what enables them to continue to spend, NOT the self-raised debt cieling, or actions by the Fed. and certainly not any political action we can reasonably take.
A very sympathetic figure.
I thought he was authentic for a long time.
Sleep with skunks……smell like skunks.
imagine if you will, actually trusting Pelosi or Schumer.
This has been Congress forever.
They all think they’re merchants. They always talk behind their hands.
Notice?
Making deals.
Joe Manchin is a trans-politician.
He has no clue what he stands for or with whom.
He’ll use any pronoun available and play for any team.
IMHO.
He tries to sound like a Republican as his election comes up in 2024, but votes with Schumer 88% of the time. Predict he will lose to Governor Justice.
He’s not running for the Senate. West Virginians are no longer his constituency to fool. He is running for the Dem presidential nomination as the “sane” alternative… more of his snake oil that has served him well for many years.
As a life long citizen of WV, I can attest that Covid wannabe tyrant fool, Governor Jim “I don’t pay my taxes” Justice would be as bad as “How Low Will You Go Joe” Manchin. To hell with Jim Justice and his English Bulldog “Baby Dog” 🐴 💩 good ole boy act. Jim Justice with his “Do it for Baby Dog” program gave away millions of taxpayer dollars in “vaccine prizes” to bribe and push that poison on West Virginians. Justice kept the “Covid State of Emergency” going until January 1, 2023.
WV 2nd District Congressman Alex Mooney has already announced he will be running for the Senate seat. Check his voting record. It is MAGA conservative. Mooney is my choice to rid WV of both those government leaches Manchin and Justice and finally have a MAGA conservative for once representing WV in the Senate.
After the loss of one congressional seat due to the 2020 census, WV redistricted the State by dividing it’s two districts along a North/South line. That move pitted incumbent Mooney (old 2nd ) against a RINO incumbent (old 1st) squish David McKinley, who mostly voted like a Democrat when possible. McKinley always got the State’s Unions endorsement and voted for the J6 committee. With Donald Trump’s endorsement, Mooney smoked McKinley 54.2 to 35.6. McKinley lost all but two counties in his old district.
Like I said, to hell with Manchin and Justice. Both are lying scum.
Thank you for your informational comment.
It is great to know the details of those who seek to represent us. No, I am not from WV, however every senator effects every American with how they vote, and thus I enjoy knowing who is truly MAGA and who is faking it.
All lying scum need to be eliminated from public office. Those pretending to represent we the people need to be exposed for who they are, and sent home.
If you want to fix W.V., start by taking a hard look at the State R party, as without top change there, no MAGA Candidate has any chance of winning.
I know little of WV Politics, but I know every State has serious problems with their States R party, at the top.
State Chair, County chair and the Executive committees are where the RINOS Congregate, and must be purged.
You are exactly right Dutchman. The WV Republican Party has serious problems as I attempted to discuss one aspect of it in another post below. Many of the Republicans in office were former “blue dog” Democrats that switched parties when the National Democrat Party under Obama became very unpopular in WV.
Governor Jim “I don’t pay my taxes” Justice mentioned in this article, was elected as a Democrat and switched parties at a Trump rally in Huntington WV in 2017. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-west-virginia-governor-idUSKBN1AJ2WN
Many of us regular citizens are trying to form and “purge” the RINO’s from County and State chairs. However, just like every other State, the people who you think are solid turn out to be squishes and the majority are just not interested nor understand how the system works.
From what I understand because of Fetterman and Feinstein being out of commission we have a 49 to 49 Senate. But Biden, Pelosi and Schumer know they can always count on Manchin.
If they can co-sponsor bills while in the hospital, surely they can vote by “proxie”?
West Virginny Joe flew right past his “Best By” date
He made a deal with these lying bastards for political expediency, while screwing the country. He’s the worst of the worst.
All kabuki theater.
Manchin has to be one of the most deceitful, forked tongued politicians in dc.
Joe, your chances are worse than Hogans.
How long is Joe Manchin’s career in politics? Isn’t he too old at playing this wrongfully deceived blushing young bride routine?
Slick, very slick. What a great talent for insincerely, yet eloquently, talking around issues as if he means every word of both sides of the argument.
Manchin is the ultimate “stick your finger in the air” politician and voting according to what the majority public sentiment is at the moment. Do us all a favor West Virginia and vote this clown out of office when his re-election comes up next.
He’s full of it…nobody is that naive.
Gives him a convenient crutch…blame Chucky, Nanzi and the rest of the dim ilk.
There was no surprise here…how much of the UK payload was promised and delivered to him personally?
Something about. . .
“If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.”
. . .comes to mind.
FJM!!
Political WHORE!!
All theater, for which only some gullible RINOs or idiotocrats may have some time. Not even a sideshow. Manchin has always been useless. And people of West Virginia keep voting for him. They deserve what they vote for.
Dominion machines, dead and other phantom voters, most likely with complicity and enabling from the W.V. State R party, have kept him in office.
Lots of blame to go around, once you go down that road of blaming voters, for rigged results!
Forget WV, how about Kentucky (McConnell) and S. Carolina (L. Graham) and Wisconsin (Paul Ryan)?
Any one is 10 times worse than Joe Manchin!
Thank you Dutchman. You are one of the few commenters that truly understand what is going on. The whole system has been rigged for years.
WVA….please do the entire country a favor and fire Joe Manchin as quickly as you can. He’s lied his last lie in the senate. He gave us the the green new deal….fire him.
Just more noise. All of these things are noise, noise, noise. So long as there is a cacophony of noise, no one can understand what is really happening. It’s the old magician’s trick turned up to 11.
“We got inflation that’s killing people.”
Which makes you an accessory to murder Joe! When are yo going to turn yourself in?
The great pretending continues.
What a maroon for thinking these people that he made deals with would play straight…”Sucker born every minute”
As others have said, its Kabuki theater, as was the stunts with Synema.
What did he expect? He’s a Democrat and it didn’t register upstairs that Democrats are constant liars especially when they promise you anything for your support. Of course the other question that needs to be asked is “Was that willful ignorance?” so Joe would have an excuse for his pissed off constituents because he voted for a debt ceiling increase to offset the US tax dollars being sent to Ukraine instead of using the dollars to take care of US citizens and our country. In closing, it’s somewhat hilarious that that Joe would even propose anything that would bring back a semblance of energy independence when Biden et al is going full bore on their green energy fantasy.
Well Joe, you’ve been Manchined.
“My main purpose right now is to work for my country and my — and my state.”
Translation – “I’m looking for something that benefits me personally.”
Marge so badly wants to talk about anyone but Biden running against Trump.
Marge is a bully
Manchin is trying to look moderate…again.
Most dysfunctional place in the US is DC.
They’ve lied for so long, they don’t recognize the truth.
Cannot even read this. Manchin is just a bought piece of crap and so is Margaret…and her Muslim JAG officer spy husband.
Man-Chin is a fool.
He has no bargaining power. The uniparty is going to pass the debt ceiling increase after the usual drama and palm-greasing with or without him.
He is/was popular in WV when I lived there as a moderate gun-toting coal mining socialist. All that changed when the socialist wing of the uniparty turned on the blue collars and now he’s about to be out of politics.
Frankly, I think the socialists will be glad to be rid of him and WV so they don’t have to pretend to like coal miners anymore.
this neutered idiot knows it’s his last term as great republican candidates r lining up to finally unseat him, so perhaps it’s a hail mary. follow the money on this decepticon… Godspeed Treepers
I’m glad Manchin got screwed. What did he expect?! Wheelin’ and dealin’ with the devil never turns out well.
I can think of spending cuts by looking at just a few recent outrageous expenditures.
1.7T ridiculous payoff just approved; 150 billion cold hard cash to Zelinsky olus 100s of millions in armaments, soldiers, cia personnel and time…on and on.
Stop paying our politicians to go to Kyiv to give money and for photo ops. Cannot recall anyone going to visit Iraq much less our AG!
Hell, Yellen just visited the vacation hotspot last week to deliver more cash personally. Merrick Garland going back to Kyiv is it this coming week or next? Lloyd Austin went there. Pelosi did as did other Congressmen and Senators.
My two cents worth. As a life long West Virginia voter, I have been around when “How Low Will You Go Joe” Manchin was the Secretary of State and Governor of WV. He was a lying scum bag then and he is a lying scum bag now. I could post all the negative things Manchin has done during his time in office in WV with citations but it would take a full page to do so.
The only reason Manchin wants on the Commie Propaganda Sunday “shows” is he wants to try to redeem himself after he sold out WV and the country to the “Green Scum Inflation Increasing Act”. Also lately, bringing Bill Gates into WV. Gates is the one who talked Manchin into “changing his vote” on the Green New Steal by promising to build a new ” iron air battery” plant in Weirton, WV. Look up “Form Energy” and see the newest Manchin/Gates Solyndra scam.
Nevertheless, the “WV Republican Super Majority” legislature is no better than the Federal GOPe. After Manchin brought Bill Gates and his “Form Energy” proposal, the House and Senate voted to “invest”100’s of millions in taxpayer dollars in Form Energy. All these billionaires like Gates have to do is mention jobs and the politicians go crawling to smooching their smelly hind quarters.
Form Energy is a start up ” iron /air battery” company which has never produced a battery nor released a single customer list interested in purchasing the battery. The batteries are supposed to make wind and solar more viable. Manchin knows that wind and solar are really popular in WV….NOT! On a side note, a lot of us “citizens”, along with several State Senators fought hard against this Manchin/ Gates bill (IMO scam) but lost a 21-13 vote. Now Jim “I don’t pay my taxes” Justice waits to eagerly sign this “bill”. https://www.weirtondailytimes.com/news/local-news/2023/02/form-energy-bill-heads-to-gov-justice-after-lengthy-debate-in-w-va-senate-2/
One more observation. After reading the transcript, I conclude that Margaret Brennen in one of the most inept interviewers I have seen on the Commie Media. While Manchin was trying to talk about permitting, energy security and the debt, all she was interested in if Manchin was going to support Joe Biden for President in 2024. Sickening all around.