On July 31, 2022, According to Manchin a deal between himself, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden included his support for the green energy spending bill, in exchange for two new items in future legislation: 1) Streamlined energy permitting/regulation; and 2) Increased development of Oil, Coal, Gas. After getting his vote, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer reneged on the deal.
Today Senator Manchin inferred he wants that promise fulfilled in order to gain his support for a debt ceiling increase and a budget package. [Transcript Below] Manchin also hedged on his own political aspirations for 2024, saying he will make a decision at the end of this year. WATCH:
[Transcript] – SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Good morning, Brennan. Thank — Margaret, thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to start on that derailment.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The president last week praised bipartisan railway safety legislation that would have new rules for trains carrying hazardous materials, increased fines for safety violations, phase in newer cars.
Will you vote for it? Is that sufficient?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes, I’m going to be supporting that. We need to do it.
Back in 2015, in Mount Carbon in West Virginia, we had a derailment, 27 cars, tanker cars carrying Bakken oil. It went off the tracks and derailed and exploded and caused a tremendous problem there. And it was very, very dangerous. It could have been a little — a lot worse, if it had been a little farther down the tracks, could have torn up a whole town.
But with that we were recommended that the electronic pneumatic brakes should be something — should be considered that might prevent this, routine maintenance checks and auditing and things of this sort. I don’t think any of that has been done.
And it’s time for us to get serious about this. We’re moving many, many products, many more products on the rails and on our roads than we ever did before. And we have a lot of people who don’t want any pipelines. Pipelines would help alleviate a lot of this problem with the oil that we need in our country and we will be using for quite some time to do it safer.
But out of sight, out of mind. They are thinking, if you don’t have a pipeline, you won’t be using the product. Well, that’s far from the truth. And this is the results of people just not making good decisions. And it’s what’s broken in — in — in West Virginia. And — and…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … broken across the country as far as in Washington, the politics.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: It’s broken. It needs to be fixed.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want — I want to come back to energy in a moment.
You’re saying it’s broken. You gave a pretty fiery speech a few days ago in the Senate. You’re at odds with the White House and with many in your own party because you are saying that Democrats need to talk about out-of- control spending and are refusing to negotiate.
You did ding Republicans for not offering specific cuts. If you are the dealmaker — you seem to be positioning yourself there — where is it that you see room for negotiation?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, Margaret, first of all, I encourage Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
I was hoping that he would, first of all, take things off the table that doesn’t cause a conflict, but most — most importantly, sit down with the president. And reached out to the White House. They did sit down, had a meeting. I’m encouraging much more of that.
But what we can do is, can’t we get together and just talk about how do we have this much debt accumulated this — in this short of a period of time? Within 10 years, Margaret, we have accumulated the greatest amount of debt in the history of our country in the shortest period of time. Can’t we at least find out what we did and how we expanded?
I know that COVID did so much of it. But, you know, we’re past the COVID…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … problems. And what we need to do is to get back to normal.
But we’ve gone from $3.5 trillion in spending to over $6.2 trillion in spending every year in the last 10 years. That’s just unacceptable. You’ve got to sit down. Anybody that thinks we don’t have a problem in Washington, anybody that thinks that the politics is not broken in Washington is not living in reality, does not want to face the facts and the truth.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
So — so, what is the truth here? Because Social Security and Medicare make up nearly 40 percent of spending in 2023. If no one is touching those programs, where are you finding the cuts?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, first of all, just do our job on time.
We’ve been told that, if we just had a budget done — we don’t even have a budget anymore. The president is — is a month late in putting his budget out, which will come out next week. But I don’t see the House or the Senate bringing a budget forward. And, basically, by a piece of legislation was passed back in 1985, we’re supposed to have our budgets…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … from the House and the Senate done by April the 1st.
The president basically submits his in February, and, by September the 30th — I’m told there’s billions and billions of dollars of savings just right there if we just do it on time.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure. But that’s not…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: We’re not even doing that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That — right.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: That’s what I say it’s, not working. That’s…
MARGARET BRENNAN: But that — but…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: But it gets a downward trajection, basically, and capping…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, but more has to be done…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: How about capping some of the…
MARGARET BRENNAN: … done than that. I mean, you know…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Yes, capping some of the discretionary spending.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You — OK.
Well, there’s a lot to talk about right there. But I want to ask you, what is Joe…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Hey, Mar…
MARGARET BRENNAN: What is Joe Manchin looking for in this deal? Are you looking for your permitting reform, for example, that Democrats didn’t deliver on, though they had told you that you would have an agreement on?
Are you looking for that to be tucked into a potential bill in this agreement that you’re saying has to be struck between Republicans and Democrats?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Well, rather — tucking something in, we’re not trying to hide anything, basically.
If we don’t do permitting, and we don’t have permitting reform in America, we’re not going to meet the challenges and be energy-independent energy- secured. If you’re not energy-secured, you’re definitely not going to be a superpower of the world, and depending on other parts of the world to provide what you won’t do for yourself.
That has to be done. I don’t care what side of the arena you’re on, if you want transmission, if you want pipelines, if you realize we’re going to have a balanced energy proposal. That’s what the Inflation Reduction Act was for, energy security. The administration, this administration has touted that as strictly an environmental bill.
It’s good for the environment, but it’s also very, very necessary for us to have the fossil energy…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: … using it better and cleaner than anywhere in the world to have the security we need. That’s what we need to do. And that’s what they’ve been avoiding.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: You have to have permitting. If not, all this is going to be voided.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about what appears to be some separation between you and the president.
You were quoted a few days ago as saying: “We’re just in different ball games. We’re not even in the same ballpark on many things.”
Are you going to endorse Joe Biden if he runs for reelection?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Oh, there’s plenty of time for the election. This is the problem with America right now. We start an election every time there’s a cycle coming up.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, he’s the leader of your party.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I — I — no, the bottom line is, let’s see who’s involved. Let’s wait until we see who all the players are. Let’s just wait until it all comes out.
My main purpose right now is to work for my country and my — and my state. That’s my responsibility. I’m not going to make my announcement for anything until the end of the year. I’m not going to make a decision what my political position is going to be or where I’m going to do for my political future.
I won’t do it until the end of the year. I got too much work to do now.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Your political future, you mean the question of whether you personally are going to run for reelection in the Senate in West Virginia.
Your Republican governor, Jim Justice, says he’s going to run for your seat, or he thinks he’s got a good shot at it. Why haven’t you made up your mind?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: There’s too — the bottom line, I got plenty of time to make up my mind. The election is not until November 2024. We don’t even file until January of 2024.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: And to be running and basically — not basically looking at the problems you have, we’ve got a runaway debt. We got inflation that’s killing people.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: We’ve got an unsecured energy. We have a border that’s out of control.
You’re telling me we’re in the same ball game or the same ballpark? I don’t think so.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You said let’s see who all the players are when it comes to running for president.
You’ve said you’re not running for president. Is that an open question, though? Who — who do you think…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I didn’t say that. I didn’t say anything about that.
I — the bottom line is, I will make my political decision in December, whatever it may be.
MARGARET BRENNAN: To run for president?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I’m not taking anything off the table, and I’m not put — and I’m not putting anything on the table.
I said I will make a decision in January — at this — at the end of this year.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’ll make a decision at the end of this year as to…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: Simply that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: … as to who you will endorse for president?
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: What my political future will be, what…
MARGARET BRENNAN: No, but for president.
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: What I will be involved with, how I will be involved.
I will be making — any decisions I make politically will not be done until the end of the year. I’m focused on fixing what’s wrong with Washington. And the politics are so toxic, the more you talk about this party, that party, what candidate and this candidate.
Look at what you have facing you right now. You’ve got inflation. You’ve got, basically, energy. You’ve got these unsecured borders. You’ve got geopolitical unrest. And we’re talking about everything but that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We are — we have a lot to talk about.
And, Senator Manchin, you’re welcome back.
(LAUGHTER)
MARGARET BRENNAN: We got to leave it there, because…
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN: I’m happy to come back, Margaret, any time.
He’s acting like a RINO up for re-election
That is because he is…
He’s a shape shifter and a hack but at least he was making a few salient points when Brennan went all TMZ and tried to get him to commit to a Presidential run. She is truly awful, she doesn’t have the talent to be the traffic girl on your local Q Zoo in the morning radio show.
He made a big mistake ever trusting them to keep a promise. Wasn’t he going to switch parties if they double crossed him?
Joe Manchin – always there when you don’t need him.
And never there if you do need him….
What is it going to take to get some of those stupid shits to LEARN??!!
What a twit.
A movie we saw too many times.
Yawn.
just like all the GOPe who caved and then went on Hannity to say “next time!”
He’ll be a republican soon..
Maybe GOPe. Never America First.
Dude seems a little slow.
Doofie Manchin for senate–better than the brain dead lurch or demented Biden, but still about as good as a greasy black banana.
Wiping coffee off my tablet; thanks for that image!
I’ll take the banana every time. Mrs Bugs makes a banana bread to die for!!
Joe Manchin, you made a pact with the Devil, or at least his Demons as if the Devil himself. Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden fed you a line and you bit. Did you really expect it to turn out differently? Did you really think you were dealing with honorable people with integrity? Or, is this just all theater to placate your constituents?
Joe Manchin has always been about the theater necessary to scrape together his next election. And he has always made pacts with the Devil along the way – and then claimed that he was hoodwinked, not his fault!
I don’t believe Manchin is honorable.
Joe is not very bright. Frankly he’d would have had to be plain ignorant to think those snakes of his own party, who are all in for destroying the nation through their stupid green energy scams, would keep any “promises” they made to him. He’s nothing but a tool.
Joe Manchin, still and forever trolling for the Presidency; he’s a great guy, don’t you know?
he is a phony
but then, most are
No matter wht remember he and his daughter are very wealthy. He doesn’t care if he is voted by Dems tht hv stood by him stupidly and he will never run for President. He is soulless and rich and will die worthless
Remember when he wanted to stand when the No Korean was talking about his escape during Trumps state of the Union speech and Schummer motioned him to sit down. He is gutless and a weasel. Sold his state down the River
West Virginians sold themselves.
Left even screw over their own. He is not very smart everyone told him before he voted. So much money at stake.
In other words, Manchin will still saddle the country with an increased debt ceiling for getting the funds he wants.
manchin how can you even consider raising the debt ceiling… you sell out piece of shzt.! even after you got thoroughly sczewed, you’er considering to scrzew all or your constituents again with even higher inflation… FJB..!
How’s Diane Feinstein these days? 😵💫😵💫😵💫. 🤧
-Ask her if what she’s done was REALLY worth doing.
-Joe, wake up
and save you soul.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/07/joe-manchin-epipen-price-heather-bresch/
It runs in Jos family
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/09/manchin-large-campaign-contributions-epipen-scandal/
-Run, Joe. Run🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sure, they’ll get back to you on that. Bro is the very definition of a RINO from the other side of the aisle.
lol.. the party of the ass lies, a lot, that’s what they do…
Once in an interview in passing some fake press I saw a real mean streak flash across his face. Can’t look at that face without seeing that anger.
All dems are mean to the core. Every last one of them.
What a total tool
Groundhog Day…….
Lucy… football… Charlie Brown…
You know the drill … usually the GOP does this to its voters … Lucy, football … Manchin got to play Charlie Brown this time …
This guy is as phony as Joe Biden.
He wouldn’t be an important vote if Feinstein and Fetterman were present in the Senate.
He’s so full of bullshit his eyes are brown! The federal government hasn’t produced a yearly budget since 2008! Yet that is a Constitutionally mandated job!
Political assh@le!
Yippee! Senator Joe Manchin can FIX the broken government this year! Hurrah! NOT!! Moron!
Talk about not being in the same ballpark, those two were on different planets.
Didn’t Joe have a nuclear option? All hat and no cattle.
F U JOE
Note to Mansion: don’t be a Charlie Brown, Lucy will always pull the ball away. Oh, and just forget about 2024. We’ll never vote for you, and the scumocrats will never let you get the nomination.
Poster child for the image of a very stupid man.
Joe Manchin is learning Biden and the leading Democrats lie.
Manchin is running.
PERIOD.
Obama will not be happy.
This is simply too funny!
A crooked, lying Democrat crying and complaining about other crooked, lying Democrats Lying to him!
My sides!
So much, bought for so little.
Acting like he didn’t know they would shaft him lol… it’s just more fodder for his fund raising and reelection. It’s all scripted at this point. He’s playing his part and staying elected by properly generating outrage without actually accomplishing anything. “The Professional Political Class.” We are no longer duped. Thank you Sundance!
Smarmy is what comes to mind with Manchin. I don’t want him to turn Republican because he would just end up being another one on the GOPe side like Murkowsky, Collins, Romney, Thune and McConnell. I don’t know the current W VA governor but seems to me he’s be a better alternative for W VA than Manchin as their Senator.
Maybe next time…since he was already lied to by rat Schumer and Biden, he will make them commit, sign and produce what he wants before he ever gives them anything they want again. Let’s see if he learned his lesson, or it’s all a facade to make him look a certain way. Actions speak louder that words, and many of these elites talk…lots…but never act. Can anybody say Lyndsey Graham…without puking?
Joe Manchin? Okay, next subject.
Man chin is either a complete rube, or a complete liar.
Regardless, cut him loose West Va! You could do way better.
Joe, Lucy ALWAYS pulls the football back. Stop toying with on the edge Dems who want to believe you.
Yep, Manchin is going to challenge Biden for ’24 Dem Potus Nomination. That’s the only reason he has acted like a dog in the manger over big Dem Senate votes this past year. He’s been hogging the MSM spotlight to attempt to publicly tack to the center to enhance his chances of running as the Moderate Dem,… a now extinct breed of Pol.
Let the mud start to fly.
Manchin is a sell-out and a tool.
Good thing he’ll be voted out of office in 2024.
What a foolish Democrat to trust the biggest liars in the history of the Democrat Party….lololol
This weasel slag Manchin is trying to set himself up as the savior of the Democrats in the presidential run. Michelle ( Mike) Obama is waiting on the sidelines.
Listen to the voice of Margaret Brennan – “I want — I want to come back to energy in a moment”. Clearly, the concerns of those currently in control are of little value for those seeing themselves as elite. How long will they be permitted to ignore the voices of the common citizen.
I just want this crybaby asshat, judas to just disappear. You sold us out with the rest of the swamp, please just die.