After the western alliance previously swore that NATO would not put any member NATO state on the doorstep of Russia, a promise that was weak and viewed by many as false – ultimately influencing the decision by Russia, NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said today that Ukraine will be joining NATO as soon as the conflict is concluded.
Now, given that statement, why would Russia even fathom entering any type of peaceful resolution to the conflict. In essence, Stoltenberg has just turned the conflict in Ukraine into a zero-sum issue for Russia. The only way Russia can keep NATO away from its border is to win violently against Ukraine. WATCH (00:42 prompted):
Do you really believe the United States would be okay with Russia establishing forward military bases in Mexico or Canada? Why should Russia permit U.S. and NATO military bases on its borders?
We almost went to war when Russia was assisting Cuba with weapons and missiles, and the U.S. will not permit any Russian interests in North America. Why should Russia accept U.S. interests on their doorstep?
Col Douglas MeGregor is the one that speaks truth!
Just listened to him on Savage. Sense.
With the Clowns In Action dropping explosives inside Russia you can bet this will now accelerate
I bet with help from our tax $$$$ for black opp mercenaries soldiers, weapons, and intelligence!
Waiting for the Russians to do the same in the US.
The Russians could devastate international shipping by pirating several ships, which would cause insurance rates to skyrocket and essentially end shipping by sea.
Or Russians could “turn off” all the pipelines in Europe. Devastating.
Asymmetric warfare baby.
Now instead of the eastern provinces Russia will have to take all of Ukraine or just kill mad dog Zelensky.
Ukraine will end up being a buffer before it’s over. Would defeat the point of keeping NATO away from the borders of Russia to make it all Russian.
Kinda wondering if Poland is getting any sneaky ideas about territory come to think of it.
Poland has wanted its old territories back for a while now. Lviv will return to Poland.
They are.
About mid-2022 Poland floated a trial balloon regarding dual citizenship for Ukrainians. I believe the Polish government pulled back, but the idea remains out there. Recent speeches have indicated Polish officials remain interested in recovering what is now northwestern Ukraine.
Most of the people in Western Ukraine would vote overwhelming to breakaway from Ukraine and join Poland. Even Putin publicly said it and commented that he had no problem with the prospect!
I believe is a de facto partition is one possible settlement:
Russia would get Russian Ukraine.
Poland would get non-Russian Ukraine.
NATO would get “Ukraine” into NATO.
Ukrainians would get shafted, but none one seems to care much about Ukrainians… the least caring of all being the Ukrainian government.
The problem is that is a compromise. Right now Russia lacks the reason, and NATO lacks the will, to compromise.
“Russia would get Russian Ukraine.
Poland would get non-Russian Ukraine.
NATO would get “Ukraine” into NATO.
Ukrainians would get shafted, but none one seems to care much about Ukrainians… the least caring of all being the Ukrainian government.
The problem is that is a compromise. Right now Russia lacks the reason, and NATO lacks the will, to compromise.”
Right on all counts, except I think NATO members will fold like a wet noodle if offered a way out the situation that Biden and company have put them in … which is leading towards a world war that will mostly be fought in Western European nations. Just saying …
Don’t forget Romania, they want part of Ukraine also.
Perhaps the part that was theirs initially
Elimination of Ukrainian massive military and hostility towards Russia is a good result for Putin. No other European countries are going to attack Russia that’s for sure!
They have discussed this extensively in Poland. Remember when Z made the Poles ‘citizens’?
Not just a buffer state, R F, but a rump state (simply a shell of its former Ukraine self).
Landlocked to boot.
Much harder for NATO/Derp infiltration.
Well, at least 1/2 or 2/3rds.
Yeah. Up to Galicia.
Kiev just became a target.
Ukrainians should remove Zelensky. Him and our loser elite don’t care about the plebs they keep running out for nothing.
Scott Ritter called for the Ukrainians to rise up and kill Z. That is their only choice at this point.
Stoltenberg has already said that after his term is up (October) he will step down.
He will not be missed.
He’s just a minion. Won’t make a difference
He will if fatty Freeland from Canada is his replacement
A Banderista NATO Chief?
Sure, why the hell not?
Other than Genocide and World War and such.
Boris the clown from the UK wants the job I believe. That war monger just might succeed in killing us all.
Well, Boris Johnson already said he wants to be the next NATO chief 🙂
Didn’t obama hint at this possibility for HIMSELF after he left the oval office before he decided to remain in his basement in Washington with an ear bud in his ear to guide the po ta to.
Perhaps there may be a Polonium-210 cocktail in his future. He deserves it.
Every NATO member nation would have to vote for Ukraine’s admission into NATO. I doubt that it would be approved.
Turkey ?
Apparently we can trust NATO as much as we can trust the WEF, the Labour Party, and the Democrat Party, which is to say, not at all.
I would add the Republican Party to that list as well, unfortunately! No one is banging the drums of war louder than Cocaine Mitch and Miss Linda Graham!! And I do not anyone in the new House Majority that is pushing back in the least, TBH!!
Consider RINOs as stealth Democrats or Democrats in training, especially as they like to be in opposition to better camouflage their corrupt scams.
Exactly!!! They are the Washington Generals – and their job is to make it look like the Harlem Globetrotters are the best players around!!
They are flip side of the UNIPARTY, which has a Fabian objective.
Dole said he was a Republican because that is how you did well in politics where he lived.
Amen
Amen
The yearly budget of NATO is a trillion dollars and we the U.S. taxpayers foot 750 billion of that.
90+% of NATO equipment is nonfunctional just like NATO troops
When I was in NATO back in the Dark Ages, we had 16 member countries that couldn’t agree on the same bullet. Now there are 30. ‘Nuf said.
But don’t worry there’s currently debate in Congress to cut Social Security.
NATO is our version of the Delian League.
Centralized power is good for war, but it corrupts. Remember LBJ’s War on Poverty? If it’s a war, then there’s no time to debate — socialist action is of the utmost importance!
Given that the Russians are better military strategist than the NATO alliance, trying to goad them into conflict directly is not going to work. And is NATO still under the delusion that somehow Ukraine is going to win this conflict? This is wishful happy talk from the side that is losing.
Everything the US, UK, EU, and NATO are doing is guaranteeing that Russia will have to decisively conquer all of Ukraine. They will not stop until there is no chance that the neo-Nazis are not armed on their border again and you are right, we would do the same – and ARE doing something similar with Mexico’s government – forcing them to get in line with the green energy narrative.
But the story would not be complete without pointing out something missing above: the reason that the Russians were putting nuclear missiles in Cuba. It was because the US put Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey and Italy. Kennedy secretly backed down on the missiles in Turkey and Russia accepted that promise and backed down in Cuba. US propaganda played that it was a big win for the US. It was equally a win for Russia. Even left-wing Wikipedia admits the true story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Yep, the Cuban Missile Crisis was really our US caused Turkish Missile Crisis.
Remember! The deep state considers WWIII a superior alternative than admitting 0’Bama is wrong, corrupt, and treasonous.
Amen
Scary, isn’t it?
Wow.. thanks, didn’t know that!
Utterly senseless and blatantly obvious end.
Well, that’s one way to get Ukraine nuked into oblivion.
“If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t
blackpro-World War III!”— F. Joe Biden
It won’t end with just Ukraine getting nuked.
If the balloon goes up, kiss the top 30 US cities goodbye as they are each hit with 5 to 10 ICBMs.
Posobiec just did a video on this. The enemy gets a vote.
Let’s not forget that about two months ago Russia launched nuclear powered AI guided submarine(s) that can launch tsunamis generated by nuclear missile explosions underwater at our coastline cities.
You can see our spy planes out there sub hunting along the mid Atlantic coast on yesterday’s Monkeywerx sitrep.
The analysis of several analysts of Russian armaments versus US armaments is a revelation as well. This is not 1980. We are a paper tiger, led by cretins with a demented Commander in Chief, and we will lose.
This is not a game.
I think Posobiec put the estimate at 82 million dead in 45 minutes. And the survivors will envy the dead.
And for what? So the WEF oligarchs can live out their psychopathic dreams of world control? There is no glorious theory of human betterment behind any of this, only extreme megalomania on the part of the obscenely rich cabal.
Why are the rest of us completely stymied by this war on us? There must be other smart people in the world who can think of better strategies than those who want to destroy our world and enslave us all.
Link
I wonder if it really matters at this point, nuclear war, evaporation, fallout, contamination…..
Is that the alternative to digital currency, smart cities, vaccine passports, forcing children to get the jab, climate lockdowns, electric vehicles, self driving semis, energy shortages or most likely energy costs that drive everyone into poverty, seizing bank accounts, eat bugs, be happy, coincidental train derailments and food plant fires, unlimited open borders.
I have no doubt the survivors will envy the dead.
LK. 23:30 Then they will begin ‘to say to the mountains, “Fall on us!” and to the hills, “Cover us!” ’
Unless I move, I will be one of them. I’m good with that as long as it takes out the po ta to and all his demons too. I would not want to be a survivor.
You’re right, it isn’t, and unlike us, the Russians and Chinese have some notion they can survive such a war, which makes the situation all the more dangerous.
Russia won’t nuke Ukraine because the fallout would drift over Russia.
Look, Russia will never nuke historical Russian territory.
Now, Polish, Romanian, Slovakian, Norwegian, British or Americanski is another matter.
A nuclear waste zone just outside historical Russia might be ok.
On the other hand Russia may be hoping to eventually connect with a de-Nazified Europe. But they’ve been around for a thousand years and can get along fine without Europe so they are willing to wait a long time.
Without specific knowledge of the range of fallout from tactical nukes, the idea that Russia would nuke Kiev and have the fall out just go east or south to poison Moscow, Crimea, Sevastopol, and beyond makes zero sense.
Much more effective to aim for the puppeteers in London and New Yotk and DC and hit with overwhelming force.
Moscow has taken serious measures to put in place the ability of Russia to survive a nuclear exchange. They have drilled their civilian population on taking shelter. They understand they may lose Moscow and St. Petersburg, but they intend to come out with a viable country.
In the meantime, the average American citizen wouldn’t know civil defense if it slapped him in the face.
BTW, in case anyone out there is listening, taking out just 1,000 idiots with the slice em dice em personalized drones – so much more civilized.
We the American People want no part of this.
Watched some show on Chernobyl that claimed sone fallout was headed to Moscow, so the Russians seeded some storms to drop it early.
Russia has hypersonic missiles that cannot be detected by current US air defense. They also have more air defense systems by far than the US which has always assumed that the US would always have air superiority. Germany’s two main air defense systems that protected Berlin were just sent to Ukraine.
NATO is attempting to escalate this conflict at every opportunity.
Feels more like the world government types trying to usher in their vision after the pandemic wasn’t quite powerful enough.
That’s what they said about Democrats and COVID.
Because a world war would offer so much more control of the world populace than a mere pandemic or “climate change” terrorism/chaos.
There’s no good guys in this and that includes NATO and our state department.
Change “NATO” to “Biden”. Interchangeable…either works and both are correct.
According to Mearsheimer, Russia’s intention would be to devastate Ukraine so thoroughly that its membership becomes economically burdensome to NATO.
He also states there is a non-trivial chance Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
I wonder if this may have been the U.S. government usurpers’ plan all along – trigger this war where both sides (Ukrainians/Russians) view it as an existential threat, guaranteeing an eventual calamitous end, where Russia finally deploys nuclear weapons after it can no longer prolong the inevitable.
Russia loses, Ukraine loses, World War Reddit generals score a big optics win over evil Putin.
Sounds great, only problem with that plan is, you know, reality.
Mearsheimer is smart, and Biden is dumb.
Mearshimer’s wrong. There’s no chance Russia puts a nuclear cloud right on their own porch.
The Russians know the effects of radiation from the Ukraine: Chernobyl. At least thru 2010, Belarus sent its children to The West for the summers to receive medical/dental treatment and be detoxed of radiation. I had a friend who hosted a girl from Gomel, Belarus. There is still the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone (roughly a 20 mile radius) in place; I believe the Russians had captured that territory early in the war with Ukraine, but I don’t know the current ground truth. The area still has measurable radioactivity contamination in the ground, water, plants — even forest fires in that area are a hazard.
Nope.
Notwithstanding the dimming of the modern person’s mind via dysgenics, words have meanings.
“Existential threat” means something. Think a bit harder about those words, then re-evaluate your fallacious belief.
I believe Blackstone has already signed reparations contracts for Ukraine.
Did you mean BlackRock?
What got the US out of the Great Depression?
A world war.
Sound familiar?
Both engineered by the City of London and affiliates.
Yes, the City of London, banking cartel. All wars are orchestrated–follow the money!!
A History Of Central Banking And The Enslavement Of Mankind – Stephen Mitford Goodson
https://archive.org/details/a-history-of-central-banking-and-the-enslavement-of-mankind-pdfdrive/page/n9/mode/2up
Here are a few others on our hidden history, the bankers, the wars and how they are orchestrated:
Where’s Gerald Nye When We Need Him? Nye Committee’s 1936 Report on Banksters’, Arms Dealers’ Warmongering
https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/02/wheres-gerald-nye-when-we-need-him-nye-committees-1936-report-on-banksters-arms-dealers-warmongering-2/
As local conflicts reignited in Europe during the early 1930s, suggesting the possibility of a second world war, a bipartisan concern spread through Washington, D.C. that “merchants of death” would again drag the United States into a struggle that was none of its business. One of the best-known and deeply informed critics was U.S. Marine Corps Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, who published “War is a Racket” in 1935. Indeed, the time was ripe for a full congressional inquiry.
The Assassination of Louis McFadden, One of the 20th Century’s Most Prescient Men
https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/02/the-assassination-of-louis-mcfadden-one-of-the-20th-centurys-most-prescient-men/
They hated Congressman McFadden because he warned about the Federal Reserve:
“When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and industrialists … acting together to enslave the world … Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers but the truth is–the Fed has usurped the government.”“Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions. They are not … they are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the U.S. for the benefit of themselves and their foreign and domestic swindlers, and rich and predatory money lenders. The sack of the United States by the Fed is the greatest crime in history. Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will.”
you nailed it.
always…….follow the money
This development is the comedian’s death sentence. Russia will have no choice but to destroy Kiev.
Joe and Mika will be so surprised!
So we are getting nuked. Great. How much time we got you think? Days? Maybe a year?
Doubt it.. Russia knows we are not happy with the puppet either. That would leave them all alone to deal with China in a few decades..
Russia is focused primarily on decision centers. Their nuke tsunami bomb can apparently completely swamp the British Isles with radioactive ocean waves.
I would avoid any empire coastal decision center, like, say, DC.
Russia would never hit the US when Europe provides a target rich environment.
Rev. 18
Madness.
Fraudulent elections have consequences.
Zelensky was installed in a color revolution run by the USA/ CIA and now he is presiding over the destruction of Ukraine.
Biden was installed by a color revolution in the United States run by the CIA and now he is presiding over the destruction of the greatest country ever to exist.
They were both installed by the same special interest group.
Anyone who thinks these two geopolitical situations are not similar remember all those who have already died as well as those who have been severely damaged by the covid shots and don’t know it yet.
Ukrainians dying from bullets and Americans dying by mandatory poison shots.
The reason they put missiles in cuba was because we put missiles in Turkey.. It’s a chess game and Russia is in all honestly being the better man.. time and again taking low blows but keeps on walking. Got to give them that..
Well, that worked back then.
Not so much now.
Incirlik AFB, in Turkey, hosts US Nuclear weapons. That was accepted by Russia, at some point, just not sure when they brought them there. I would have to look.
Kennedy took the missiles out of Turkey and the Russians backed off.
Then Kennedy got mad and was going to decommission the CIA, so they killed him.
NATO proposing the Russia ReUnification beginning with Ukraine !!!
Well for the elites this is nothing but a game. It won’t be their children dying. It will be ours.
In the EU, the elites’ kids won’t go and fight. In the U.S. it won’t be anyone in DC kids that go and fight. It will be ours.
It will be our kids drafted to go fight and die for the money laundering scheme they set up.
They want you to believe Russia’s forces are diminished despite the fact Ukraine keeps requesting monies. They want you to believe Russia is suffering despite their economy booming. Oh, I’m sorry, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and other MSM say otherwise…so you know, it’s got to be true.
They will send our children to go die for their BS money laundering. And if you oppose…well, you’re a Putin butt sniffer. Putin butt sniffer. What a joke.
Meanwhile, those who have Ukraine flags flying in their yards will be the first to shield their kids from death. What a joke.
Every Ukraine war supporter should be required to have to send either themselves or their kids first to go and die. Cuz, that’s what will happen. Our kids will go there and die.
Every yard with a Ukraine flag, poster, or yard sign resembling a Ukraine flag should be required, despite economic status, to send their kids first.
I grew up poor. I did my damn military time. I served my country. I had guns pointed at my head. I had people who looked at me like I was the devil while stepping in THIER COUNTRY. And now, these a-holes in DC want my sons to go die for Hunter Biden’s, Paul Pelosi Jr.’s and the other -a holes in Congress’s kids grift.
NO, NO, NO. In matter of fact, HELL NO.
They forget, those in DC, that people like me, born in the 70’s, suffered though poverty, then joined the military are the parents of their current crop of fodder. We lived it. We were trained. We know the business. We know war. our whole lives have been war. Literally war.
The powers that be forget we understand death. We have seen death. And oh, by the way, you trained us to deal with death. You trained us to handle you- the POS’s in DC. We know what it takes….you literally dropped us in te middle of your wars…we survived…and now, you want our kids to die.
I’m sorry….been there done that. I’m ready to die here, on U.S. soil, in order to stop my kid from dying on Ukrainian soil for Ukrainians who can’t even defend themselves…you assholes trained me. So, yep, I’m trained adn ready to die here….FOR MY M-FO- KIDS.
SO NOW WHAT DC? NOW WHAT?
1000x yes.
Excellent post!!
If there is a draft then Canada is going to double in size. If there are US body bags I shudder to think what will happen in the US.
Amen….the sentiment you espoused is quite common nowadays I assume. The neocons no longer have their go to cannon fodder. Let’s see if the neomarxists can make up the difference lolol….not a snow balls chance in hell.
I would like to remind both those groups that elections have consequences. And the stolen ones are a real bitch.
Here’s how Z-Bag thinks he’s gonna win.
Im surprised Sundance didnt comment on the American children fighting on the ground comment from this criminal shyster Zelensky.
This is a pretty big f’in deal!
Id love to hear what SD thinks about it.
I know what I think about it!
F Zelensky, and Biden! This would be a for sure, 100 per cent invitation for a full on kinetic war with Russia vs NATO.
Insanity! Z needs to eat a bul…..meh, I better not say it, but Im sure as hell thinking it!
Russia already has NATO on it’s border with the Baltic States. So the Ukraine excuse makes no sense.
The Baltic people aren’t totally batshit insane Nazis, for starts.
Not that they shouldn’t have been made neutral zones back in 1991.
Oh wait, we said they were essentially just that . . .
And soon to be Finland.
They are crazy. They have a very high suicide rate. And Russia is going to put permanent garrisons on the Finland border. Finland will probably pull out of the deal.
But there might not be NATO weapons or soldiers in those states. They may be NATO in name only.
There are few that truly totally disgust me. Just so happens, this little nazi napoleon pervert happens to be one of them.
Cheers to all Treepers, patch holders and prospects in good standing –
Long time Freeper cousin here…
The words of Zelensky are so arrogant and over the top that they need to be transcribed and posted EVERYWHERE!
The TRUTH in Zelensky’s UNAMBIGUOUS words is now published/broadcasted for all to hear.
I am calling on a slightly more advanced technological Treeper to advance the cause of posting THIS DAMNING UNMASKED transcript.
Thank you,
freepersup!
[eagles up! cowboy up!]
PS
When Free Republic threads boil over with Trump Derangement Syndrome viral infections, I head over to the Treehouse first, and foremost, for REFUGE!
Reason # 1 – Top tier research is being done here by Sundance and staff. Signal, not noise. Hat tip to Steve Bannon, and War Room.
Our Congress would do themselves well by having their staff read out the daily major posting threads by Sundance – word for word (when practical) and a selective top ten response list from the Treepers.
I guess if this actually took place, it would dawn on some of these placeholders that THEY were not that useful to the rest of us.
Keep digging Treepers!
freepersup (Class of 1998 – lurker & Class of 2000 – poster, at FR)
Hat tip to the American Thinker for posting the specific words of Zelensky.
Zelensky warns skeptical Americans ‘if they do not change their opinion’ they can expect to send their sons and daughters to die for Ukraine – American Thinker
March 1, 2023
Zelensky warns skeptical Americans ‘if they do not change their opinion’ they can expect to send their sons and daughters to die for UkraineBy Monica Showalter
[T]hat percentage of Americans as you’ve mentioned is increasing, I can tell them only one thing: If they do not change their opinion, if they do not understand us, if they do not support Ukraine, they will lose NATO, they will lose the clout of the United States, they will lose the leadership position that they are joined of the world. They are joined for a very fair reason. They will lose the support of a country with 40 million, with millions of children. Are American children any different from ours? Don’t Americans enjoy the same things as we do? I don’t think we are that different. nd I’m very happy we have bipartisan support, but we keep hearing those messages from time to time and very dangerous. There are political leaders that are elected by people and if this issue is raised, those political leaders need to be responsible and cautious because people are looking at them. Who wants a third world war? Would anyone risk, would anyone be willing accept that risk? The U.S. is never going to give up on the NATO member states. If it happens though that Ukraine due to various opinions and weakening and depleting of assistance loses, Russia is going to enter Baltic states, NATO member states, and then the U.S. will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending [their – may be translation error] sons and daughters to war, and they will have to fight, because it is NATO we are talking about and they will be dying, God forbid, because it’s a horrible thing. I would like to thank all of the American people that are supporting Ukraine, the Congress, the president, the TV channels, the journalists, and everyone who has been supporting us.
This is a working hotlink – there’s also one in my post. Hold your cursor over the text and it will transform into the hand with the pointing index finger. Infrequent poster here… I wasn’t sure how the link would appear once posted.
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Zelensky warns skeptical Americans ‘if they do not change their opinion’ they can expect to send their sons and daughters to die for Ukraine – American Thinker
Col. MacGregor offers analysis and wisdom unmatched in DC. Obviously, that is why the current military and political leadership refuses to listen to him.
Yup, that’s why they ignore him. They only like to consult psychopaths.
Col McGregor said that 50,000 Ukrainian children have gone missing in this interview:
Thank you AMANDA, for this video!
I see the media is peddling the lie that Russia has lost 60k soldiers. MacGregor says 15k-30k and 350k for the Ukes.
I’ve said it before: Western policy makers are approaching Army Detachment Steiner levels of self-delusion.
They want direct military conflict with Russia. They want direct military conflict with China. They will accept direct military conflict with Russia and China at the same time. They believe they can win it.
They are very, very wrong.
They have turned Ukraine into a zero-sum issue for Russia because Ukraine is a zero-sum issue for themselves.
NATO Pokes Russian Bear
We have the worst leadership.
NATO announced Tuesday the member nations agreed to allow Ukraine to become a member of the alliance.
These people really love their wars.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/nato-pokes-russian-bear-agrees-to-plan-for-ukraine-to-become-member-state/
Hunter Biden was instrumental in funding and assisting a company responsible for Ukraine biolabs. The Metabiota company, headed by a Ghislaine Maxwell partner named Alan Wolfe, was in charge of setting up biolabs in Ukraine. The biolabs have sparked concern that dangerous materials could be used to fuel bioterrorism in Ukraine and around the world.
https://nationalfile.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-biolab-partner-was-partners-with-ghislaine-maxwell/
The end result here might be not only the end of Ukraine, but a collapse of NATO and the EU. The globalists really miscalculated with this war by pushing Russia into an alliance with China. We’re all going to pay the price for their hubris, but at least Russia’s eventual win spells the end of the One World Order agenda.
The collapse of NATO may actually be a good outcome. Does anyone in the general public even know where NATO member North Macedonia is? Or care?
At least the general public is no longer confusing the country of Macedonia with the Greek region of Macedonia, since NATO convinced them they had to change their name to get in (Greece needing reassurance on this vital issue because they have no other major problems to be concerned about).
Germany has yet to react to the US bombing the pipeline. They could go ballistic, or not.
I know this is crazy, and I don’t blame anyone for telling me I’m crazy, but why do I feel like Russia is the victim and more aggrieved in this dumpster fire of global brinksmanship than I do Ukraine (which is as corrupt-or more so-than the DC kakistocracy) or benighted US citizens held hostage by its government and its snarling guard dogs (alphabet agencies, FBI, CIA, et.al)?
NATO and Ukraine refused to follow the Minsk Accords. Merkel and other Western officials have admitted Minsk was just a means of stalling to build up the Ukrainian military and defenses.
Regardless of Russian motivations and actions , the West is also to blame for what has happened. Western governments acted in bad faith, signed treaties it had no intention of respecting, encouraged and supported shelling of the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine, interfered in internal Ukrainian politics, and were otherwise actively hostile towards Russian security interests.
Truth is Truth.
Russia likes to kill people with polonium, but otherwise are good neighbors.
We let China establish a forward base in the Oval Office.
They just keep pushing the envelope and pushing Putin’s buttons. Their actions speak louder than their words. When do the People get a vote on this??? Has not History taught them anything? Within the past hour I read how Israel has now decided to back the nazis: https://www.israelunwired.com/israel-backs-ukraine-against-russia/?vgo_ee=svDXQ%2Bl%2BQD%2FT4yosIoCgLkzkASpiHornD%2Fz2wZTd1jg%3D
Will this lead to the war predicted in the Scriptures? When the armies come down from the North to attack Israel? (see Ezekial 38-39). Gog and Magog …often believed to be Russia? If so, we know God will give victory to Israel and they will burn the weapons of their enemies for 7 yrs. (Ez. 39:9). Will the beginning of this 7 yr. period also be the beginning of the last 7 yrs. of Tribulation?
We truly are living in very prophetic times. This could simply be another ‘shadow’ of things to come…or…
Israel has been helping run the Nazis. It is not a coincidence that Zelensky’s parents live in a mansion in Israel, or that many of the Ukrainian oligarchs have dual Israeli citizenship. It is not a coincidence that Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan (a Kagan, look up the Khazarian meaning of the word) are the front line operators at the heart of this. IMHO, it is not a coincidence that average Israelis were forced to get 3 or 4 death jabs and treated as a big Phrma experiment – openly said by their government l
“leaders.”
It is all tied together in one big spider web.
I will pray for the peace of Jerusalem as God has instructed us to do:
PS. 122:6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
“May they prosper who love you.
Zechariah 12:2-3
“Behold, I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that causes reeling to all the peoples around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against Judah. It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.
Genesis 12:3:“I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
? Will DeSantis stop the madness? LOL
Trump will crush NATO.
Ukraine is done for!
I have posted a few vids of the nazi napoleon in the past. I just so happened to run across another today to add to my collection:
I just saw a video of a guy in a nazi uniform and tattoos shopping in Keiv. Zero f’s given by the locals.
Chy-na puts forward a peace deal and America and Europe reject it out of hand. Again. Then come out with this. Are you feeling something is going on they are not telling us? Follow the money.
Yes, follow the money- All Wars Are Bankers Wars!!!
“...as soon as the conflict is concluded.”
I guess that little detail still remains to be worked out.
Russia Will not walk away from a conflict that is vital to their interests.This could go on for many years and potentially result in a world war and the Biden crew are ensuring the US will foot most of the responsibility following on from the most recent Afghanistan disaster.
Correction: The Cuba crisis involved the USSR – not Russia. Let’s be careful. There’s already too much conflation of past USSR aggression with the expectation of same from the current Russian Federation (‘unprovoked attack on Ukraine’). Some genuinely fear this; while many use it as fear porn.
Every time Russia and Ukraine inch toward even a remote chance of a settlement, the powers that be step in and squash all chances. China puts forward a peace plan (albeit not much but a plan nonetheless) and the west responds with Ukraine joining NATO. Ukraine is pulling forces out of Bakhmut because they know it is a lost cause and they don’t have the troops anyway and along comes Pedo Poopyants and Yellen with a several billion-dollar bribe to stay the course and offer up more bodies to the meatgrinder.
Some countries really, really, really, really, really want war. It is like they know their economies are going to fall apart without a war. Some countries really, really, really, really need war.
What will be the next USS Liberty or Gulf of Tonkin to be the spark to light the fuse? It appears Russia did not take the cheese and escalate when the powers that be blew up the Nordstream pipeline or the bridge near Chrimea.
And they will probably stage another false flag to get the sheep up for more war:
September 11: The New Pearl Harbor (Full Documentary) https://www.bitchute.com/video/Lp81hoFneM4z/ (5 hr documentary that destroys all aspects of the official narrative). They lied about 9/11 to get the fake global war on terror going and they will lie again to start WW3.
Mike Rivero’s All Wars are Bankers Wars
Bill Still’s The Money Masters
(a follow the money approach to history, going back to Rome, then Bank of England, how Rothschilds took over Europe and then America with the Federal Reserve, you will understand how and why we have wars and who ultimately benefits) If you don’t have time for the documentary, just reading the quotes here will give a sense of how the evil system of debt enslavement works:
https://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Banks/Money_Masters_quotations.html
Congress basically gave authorization for the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, a resolution based on ‘events’, part of which were highly exaggerated and part of which never happened. 50,000 more Americans then went on to die pretty much for nothing, except to provide cover for politicians, a political secdef and political generals.
“There is nothing new under the sun”.
I am pretty certain there won’t be much left of Ukraine to join NATO aside from the land itself. No one should get too excited about a draft either. Zelensky warned us all recently that a draft is coming if we don’t continue our support. “American sons and daughters will die.” I guess it could happen but it won’t. The actual conservative right has caught on and the left has made draft dodging cool. Press ganging people will be all but impossible thanks to the second amendment. No one in my family is going to fight for Globohomo period. And at this point I don’t really care who’s in the White House. I have seen enough.
The unfortunate thing is the threat of nuclear war is all too real. These elites are SOL if America/West lose their military might. China and Russia and others are not going to invite them in if they are victorious no matter how much money or gold the elites have. Why bring in a traitor who screwed his own when you can just kill him and take everything he has? And TPTB know this which is why they’re scared and desperate to stop the rise of the multi polar world.
In theory it’s tempting to route for places like DC or NY to get splashed. At least it is for me just being honest btw. However if just a few places like that are hit we are all in for SHTF scenario most likely. The financial system surely would collapse with a hit on London, NY City, DC, etc. Things come to a screeching halt sooner rather than later I assume.
Not trying to be Dr Doom but we should probably understand that and make plans for it. Most of you have as it would be the same as a collapse scenario to some point. If the Russians open up on us they’re going to hit more than those 3 cities I am certain of it. That’s why I am also 100% positive there’s little that can be done to contain that kind of warfare.
God help and bless us all in these troubled times. About the best thing that can happen is some of these Euro/NATO countries walk away IMHO from this death cult.
Ukraine Losing Heavily Defended Bakhmut and Donbass Next. Several Thousand Ukrainian Soldiers Cut-off and Surrounded Face Annihilation. Zelensky Fires Ukrainian General.
Alex Mercouris and Alex Christoforou at The Duran today:
There is a mercenary in that area that says the life expenctancy on the front lines is 4 hours.
Compare that to the average life expectancy of a Red Army replacement soldier at Stalingrad which was 24 hours. Yikes!
They didn’t try very hard to set the stage, did they.
Aside from the sandbags the stairs still look near immaculate. No debris, loose sand, etc.
Screams FAKE.
It is FAKE. Just like the occupant of the WH
“Russian diplomats are the best”
Russia embarrasses Ukraine at a UN Security Counsel meeting…Only need to watch the first minute+ to get the gist, then skip to 10:20 for a couple minutes for some rapid fire info.
I don’t care if Ukraine joins NATO, so long as the US gets out of NATO at the same time. Every Eastern European crackpot yahoo wants the power to drag America into another European war with article 5. I say “NO!”
But with that said, let’s get one thing clear. Just because little brother is tormenting big sister with his “I’m not touching you” crap does NOT justify little sister pulling out her Glock and blowing him away. I know, I know, but nazis … or something. Putin is a Russian Civlizational Fascist bent on reassembling the Russian empire that Stalin put together. Doubt that at EVERYONE’s peril.
Putin has no interest in reconstruction of the Soviet Union because he’s said many times it was a disaster. He is interested in protecting Russia and we can’t seem to leave him alone. On top of that there’s an ethnic group in the United States that has what looks like a personal grudge against an Orthodox Christian Russia and their hated goes back to the reign of the Czar. That said, they loved the Athiest and Communist Soviet Union when it’s leaders wanted to destroy us!
What Putin SAID was that the BREAKUP of the Soviet Union wsas the greatest disaster of the 20th Century. You cannot begin to glean Putrin’s intent without examining Alexander Dugin. The rest of your comment dances very close to identifying the real dynamic that is at play. But we can’t say it out loud. Too bad. Understand that dynamic and all of it immediately snaps into focus.
Yes, because of the way it broke up with looting by Oligarchs and the West. On the other matter, it’s the descendants of immigrants from the Communist Soviet Union that seem to hate Russia the most! Of course they loved the Athiest and Communist Soviet Union.
” Putin is a Russian Civlizational Fascist bent on reassembling the Russian empire that Stalin put together. Doubt that at EVERYONE’s peril.”
Britain has a greater chance, far greater, of reassembling the British Empire.
He’s got Crimea, invaded Ukraine, and Moldova is next up.
Putin is not interested in peoples who are not Russian. He said that many times and knows what trouble is, Trapper.
That was the Soviet empire. Go back around 220 years before that. Think Peter the Great.
The west is run by a bunch of idiots.
war war war (WW3)..how do you like it how do you like it….
They never say why Ukraine has to join NATO. Just the PUTIN IS HITLER hysterics. Or, Ukraine really,really, wants to! Borders or something that our losers don’t give a crap about.
No new countries in NATO and we should be getting out of it.
We have a greedy and idiotic fake elite. They hate America and Americans. They hate everyone but Ukraine.
They are unworthy.
Putin knows what he must do. The Russians have prepared for the days to come. Have you?
Russia has shown great restraint. Think about our behavior where we say every country in the world is under our control as they might be a threat to us.
See the murder of 100s of thousands of Iraqis, our interference in nearly every Latin American country to include drug running, coups, arms running, etc.
And let us not forget that we have boycotted and blockaded Cuba for decades because they are close to our border and don’t have the type of government we approve of…
Russia is now justified to do anything they think is needed in their defense.
Great restraint? That’s ridiculous. Russia invaded another country. That is restraint? You can join Ari on the plane.
Why do you presume Russia invaded Ukraine? Serious questions. Do you think NATO had anything to do with the Russians deciding to invade? Do you think the US has encouraged or discouraged Russia from invading before they invaded? Would you support the US if it encouraged peace talks between Ukraine and Russia?
I suppose you want me to book my flight now😁
Well … after a months long build up on the Russian side of its border with Ukraine, in February 2022 Russian tanks and troops crossed the border into Ukraine and began killing Ukrainians. That is called an invasion.
I think PDJT is right. He would have this resolved in a day. Probably the eastern provinces heavily populated with ethnic Russians would to to Russia, and the new border would be the river. THEN the question would be how long that would last. That would be the tell. Would Russia simply turn its attention to Moldova? Or would Putin simply wait out Trump’s second term and go right back into Ukraine after? I think any rational assessment of Putin shows him to be an imperialist.
You can hold off on the flight.
The Donbass Region voted overwhelming to breakaway from Ukraine and declared their independence. Russia was invited by the Russian people who live in the Donetsk People’s Republic to help them.
And how did those ethnic Russians get there? They were put there by the Soviets after Stalin’s genocidal holodomor starvation of 6 million Ukrainians in 1932-3. I expect Ukranians remember how they got there. Ethnic cleansing and replacement.
Why aren’t you on the frontlines for Ukraine?
You are 100% correct here, Sundance!
These effers gonna keep poking the bear.
Zelensky will soon leave Ukraine behind. He’s padded his offshore accounts. He’ll move to a villa somewhere warm. and sunny, while the people of Ukraine live in the rubble and destruction.
I think you’re 100% right. The moment things go south in the Ukraine, he’ll be out of there.
Supposedly there is a McMansion waiting for him and the little woman in Miami.
NATO is not just threatening Russia. They also took some wacks at China. Sick.
What kind of civilizations allow the US to commit an act of war, bombing the pipeline, and do nothing?
It was just brought to my attention that between Carter, Bush, and Obama the US attacked 29 countries and killed 11M civilians. What kind of civilization is the US to allow this?
Really, this is sick, really demented.
I seriously doubt the numbers you quote. Do you have a citation? If you don’t lilke it here, if you hate America, planes leave every hour for other countries . Get on one. And don’t come back. I get really sick of all the badmouthing of America I see.
There’s a long list of countries that the United States invaded, overthrew and assassinated it’s leaders over the past 70 years. It’s literally dozens and dozens.
That was the game for 70 years and the US, the USSR, the Brits, and the PRC all participated. Citing left wing America haters as your sources for a one-sided ctitique of America is just classroom regurgitation of the crap your left wing teachers fed you. Let me guess, Blum and Zinn were tequired reading, right?
How do you come up with the 15 million civilians killed during the Carter, Bush and Obama years? That number is way beyond anything I can come up with. Care to explain?
Images of land mass coverage if Kyiv is nuked by 100 kiloton vs 100 mega ton bombs. They know they are backing Roosia in a corner.
FTA: …nothing to gain even if they won – they will never survive the conflict. It just makes no sense.
100 Kiloton
That said, Russia could nuke Kyiv. It would all depend upon the size of the bomb. This would be the destruction of Kyiv with 100 kilotons. The argument inside Russia is that Putin has been too “soft” and he should have gone all in for the kill. The military believes they have been held back and could have won had they not had their hands tied.
This would be 100 metric tons. So you can see, they can nuke Kyiv and “win” the war without destroying all of Ukraine. This is what some are pushing for because they see this as a war against NATO and not just a war now to defend the Donbas. Ukraine has been the fool on the hill. They have listened to the West, and gone head-to-head against Russia which has more nukes than the United States, which cannot defend itself against a hypersonic nuclear missile.
Russia could take out Kyiv without harming Crimea or the Donbas.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/what-if-russia-nukes-kyiv/
“.. the West would not suffer critical damage in the military-strategic and even more so in the economic sense. Russia would remain cut off from the West, demonized in the eyes of many countries. Its influence on Europe would be reduced to zero, or even negative. The Atlantic community would be more consolidated than ever in the face of such a dangerous enemy. And Russia, excluded from the collective West and cut off from technology and new networks, would receive a significant not entirely loyal, if not hostile, population, whose integration into a single space would require an incredible, extraordinary effort from an already war-weary country.
And Ukraine itself would not be under occupation, but as part of a single nation, with no ethnic disadvantages and with all prospects open for taking up positions and moving freely throughout Russia. If one wished, this could be seen as annexation of Russia to Ukraine, and the ancient capital of the Russian state, Kiev, would again be at the center of the Russian world rather than on its periphery.
Naturally, in this case, peace would come by itself, and there would be no point in negotiating its terms with anyone”
SOURCE : https://www.thepostil.com/russias-special-military-operation-after-the-first-year-a-paradigm-shift/
If kinetic or cyber warfare breaks out between NATO (supported and speared on by the USA) and Russia, there will immediately be tens of millions of people descend on Washington DC to put an end to it. Politicians from both sides of the isle will scatter like the wind blowing tumbleweeds. The USA will once again emerge as a true Republic Government led by President Trump. In the meantime, Warsaw, Berling, Paris and maybe other major cities will lay in ruin.