If it sounds too good to be true….
Okay folks, this is a story that dragged me into a rabbit hole for two days. If you have seen the video testimony of Ms. Jacqueline Breger in front of the Arizona Senate Committee investigating election issues, this outline is intended to help you navigate the story.
On February 23, 2023, Ms. Breger delivered testimony to the Arizona Senate claiming documentary evidence that shows judges, politicians, police, local and state officials as well as multiple groups, organizations and individuals associated within government and elections operations the state of Arizona are being bribed and under the influence of the Sinaloa Cartel from Mexico.
It is not coincidental that everything associated with this story seems explosive and astounding. It is also not coincidental that you could spend hours looking for specific details of the allegations, including watching interviews with each of the participants, and not find your answers. Things are NOT what they seem.
I am going to start by sharing the 42-minute video {direct Rumble Link here} of the allegations made by Ms. Jacqueline Breger, because this is the origination from which all downstream story details originate. This testimony hit the web and exploded in the alternative media ecosphere. WATCH:
[The transcript of the testimony as delivered IS HERE]
As she outlines in the video Mrs. Jacqueline Breger, a forensic investigator, represents the interests of an attorney, Mr. John Thaler, in delivering information to the committee that would be pertinent to their interests.
The *hook* to grab immediate attention is to apply the accusations of bribery, public corruption, fraud and money laundering to one big name, Katie Hobbs, who is now the governor of Arizona.
According to the claims, Mrs. Katie Hobbs and her husband were participants in a racketeering scheme originating from the Sinaloa drug and human trafficking cartel. Real estate transactions using dummy mortgage companies, holding companies and title companies are part of the alleged operation.
Essentially the primary real estate allegation works like this. The Sinaloa Cartel uses proxies in the U.S. to set up fraudulent corporations (mortgage companies etc). Those proxies then launder drug money through real estate transactions using the fraudulent companies. If they need to bribe a person, the cartel finances the mortgage of the individual as a way to pay the property owner. The mortgage is never paid back because the financing is the bribe. The mortgage company and the title company are essentially the cartel.
I am going to drop videos with Mr. John Thaler at the bottom of this outline so you can listen to the explanation of the allegations as they are claimed.
The money laundering allegations are widespread and involve bribing public officials, judges, police officers, city office holders, county clerks, court employees, politicians as well as a variety of local and state officials to include state representatives, state senators and various state officials. The fraud is claimed to encompass private sector payrolls, education systems, insurance claims, as well as setting up fake identities, fraudulent records by using illicit access, as well as fraud associated with local, state and federal tax evasions.
All of these issues are explosive in scale and scope, and Mrs. Breger together with Mr. Thaler, claim to have all the documentary evidence to support the allegations. Tens of thousands of documents detailing thousands of fraudulent transactions and several hundred examples of fraudulent records placed in the civic systems.
Again, I will put the videos at the bottom, if you want to spend several hours watching them (as I have already done) the option is yours.
♦ On the specifics of the allegations. There is no way to easily estimate whether or not the claims are accurate. On the specific allegations against Mrs Hobbs, the claimed real estate transactions could support the claims, but may also not support the claims because Breger and Thaler assert that “similar names” are used in the transactions. So, it could be Katie Hobbs and her husband, it could also be totally innocuous people with similar names. [This only applies to Hobbs]
But the issues with Hobbs only scratch the surface. The allegations are much more widespread and encompassing than just Hobbs.
This is where you as an information absorber need to apply a strong dose of skepticism, apply instinct and commonsense. This is also where we would say, wait a minute, who is this guy John Thaler and Ms. Jacqueline Breger, and (1) are they stable people; and (2) do they carry motives behind these allegations.
In my estimation, this is where major warning flags are located.
♦ The two principal agents working on the Sinaloa Cartel money laundering operation in Arizona are claimed to be Brittany Rae-Chavez and her mother Dawna Rae-Chavez. Mr Thaler identifies Brittany and Dawna as the epicenter of the criminal conduct on behalf of Sinaloa. Most, if not all, of the fraudulent documents as created are cited to Brittany Rae-Chavez (BRC) and her mother Dawna Rae-Chavez (DRC).
BRC and DRC may indeed be working for the Sinaloa cartel. However, Mr. Thaler has not provided specific evidence of that other than his word. It could be true that no evidence exists because no evidence is possible. However, the next detail puts a serious question mark on everything.
♦In addition to the claim of Brittany Rae-Chavez being the administrative consigliere to the cartel, she is also John Thaler’s ex-wife. That makes Dawna Rae-Chavez John Thaler’s ex mother-in-law. Additionally, John Thaler and Brittany have a five-year-old son together, and there is a custody dispute.
John claims he did not know of Brittany’s work with the cartel until he discovered her as part of his investigation of insurance and payroll fraud.
Yes, that is correct, John Thaler claims he found out his wife Brittany Rae-Chavez-Thaler was the person behind the widespread fraud he was investigating while they were married.
John and Brittany are now divorced.
The love interest in John Thaler’s life is Jacqueline Breger, the forensic investigator who delivered the senate testimony.
Everything John Thaler and Jacqueline Breger are claiming may be true. However, the motive for them saying it must be made clear.
John Thaler wants access to his son. Brittany and John are in a custody battle. Jacqueline wants to support John. The accusations against Brittany and her mother Dawna could support the interests of John in the custody battle. See the motive?
Additionally, in the divorce case of Thaler -vs- Thaler, the accusations made by Jacqueline Breger were made in court filings before presiding judge Douglas L. Rayes United States District Judge [SEE Opinion of Case HERE].
June 2022 – “Mr. Thaler’s prolix complaint alleges that Ms. Thaler, motivated by a fear a poverty, has engaged in an array of criminal enterprises across multiple states, including money laundering and tax evasion, allegedly accomplished via real estate transactions and non-profit organizations; insurance fraud, allegedly accomplished via phony personal injury claims made on behalf of non-existent persons; skimming money from state-run aid programs; narcotics trafficking; hacking into state databases and fabricating public records; bribing public officials, including judges, police officers, judicial assistants, inspectors, assessors, and accountants; bribing private professionals, such as real estate agents and brokers; bankruptcy fraud; election fraud, allegedly accomplished by creating fake ballots and manipulating others in order to influence, among other races, the 2020 election for Maricopa County Recorder; extortion via “crypto-viruses”; the creation of fake employees on payroll systems in order to collect paychecks and benefits; and murder. What’s more, Mr. Thaler alleges that high-ranking government and judicial officials in Maricopa County and the City of Mesa are in on the racketeering enterprise. Mr. Thaler’s complaint weaves a delusional and fantastical narrative that does not comport with federal pleading standards.” (link)
Are you starting to get that… “wait, wha.. OMG.. nah, hard pass” feeling yet?
Given the nature of the personal background of the people involved, their relationships and the emotional overlay of an ongoing child custody battle, it becomes almost impossible to assert the claims by Mr. Thaler and Ms. Breger are not motivated by the family drama.
Unfortunately, the claims by Thaler and Breger may be accurate as documented. The scale and scope do seem “delusional and fantastical,” and that might be… because it is.
Decide on your own.
I simply advise to proceed with caution, and I have now spent two days in this rabbit hole…. so there’s that.
Trust your instincts…
Here’s the video interviews I mentioned:
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Ben Bergquam on Real America’s Voice reporting on the Arizona corruption – it is real. He said Ducey knew about this before he left office and did or said nothing. Said this involved more than the three at the top, but also judges, city council members and more… and not just here in Arizona.
Bergquam is not a flame thrower. He himself has spent a LOT of his time on both sides of the border and down at the Darien Gap in Panama.
I have long wondered if people like Ducey and Brnovich “do nothing” because they are afraid for themselves and feel it is hopeless due to how deep the corruption goes–regardless of whether or not they personally are on the take.
If the allegations are proven, the motives & interests of the allegaters are irrelevant.
This scheme is perfect for politicians and criminals. I believe it.
https://twitter.com/merissahamilton/status/1626696871883472896/photo/1
Oh my GOD, we have been gas lighted, and now Hobbs has a way to laugh at all of us!! I’m pissed I fell for it!!! She will complete 8 years!!! I hate our Legislators who entertain this. We just walked into a freaking trap!!! OK, Hobbs is it for 8 years idiots!!!!
Or not.
Calm down. If hobbs is here for 8 years it’ll be because our state is irreversibly corrupt and they’re still brazenly stealing elections. It won’t have ANYTHING to do with this news cycle blip.
You have to look at the angle that Brittany Rae-Chavez and her mother Dawna Rae-Chavez were Cartel assets planted in Mr. Thaler’s life, as it appears he was already aware of some of this information, these patterns, prior to meeting her and marrying her. Being married to Thaler, an attorney who was seeing the corruption patterns, would be the PERFECT cover for a honey-pot type asset to be “cloaked” so she could take on the role in Mesa and operate boldly with less chance of scrutiny. “What? Thaler’s wife?” Cognitive dissonance.
This is what I was thinking — but, I haven’t found any information on when they met/married, vs. when he started doing this investigative work.
Also, it concerns me that Thaler and Breger put pictures of envelopes from the AZ AG addressed to him as proof that he had contact with the AG — and then people from the AG office pointed out those are most likely regarding delinquent child support payments based on their return address. And why show envelopes and not actual correspondence?
The overall thrust of what he is describing — cartel buying out powerful in AZ (and other states) and laundering money by buying homes for people — that definitely sounds plausible given the everyday experience on the ground in AZ. Especially the brazen election fraud and law enforcement’s resistance to addressing it.
Breger says Thaler started the investigation 4 years ago, when he was hired by private clients to investigate the cartel. And that’s when BRC came forward as whistle-blower, if I understand it right.
She can be recalled 7-3-2023 and people are signing and donating. She is corrupt, cheats and not the rightful governor to AZ.
Hobbs did not respond because she/they knew we would run with it, then she could show how nuts Lake and all of us are!!!! We just screwed ourselves! Good bye AZ!!!
Hobbs can be recalled 7-3-2023 and it is underway. Sign the recall!!
My gut instinct listening to him is that he IS credible. But I admit I REALLY want this to be true. Regardless, I REALLY appreciate your summary!
There are two questions I’d like THOROUGH explanations for:
1. How and when did he meet his ex Brittany Chavez? It is WAY TOO coincidental to think that randomly a) Companies hire an attorney to investigate insurance and other fraud for them and b) While investigating he finds his own wife’s signature on spurious documents. There are HOW MANY people in the USA? I just don’t see that happening. HOWEVER, I could see if he was getting onto the cartel’s, them sending a woman to seduce and marry him to compromise him? Maybe?
2. Thaler and Breger claim that the same human hand signed Katie Hobbs’ name on the deeds they are connecting to her (and other people’s questionable deeds, and some notary sigs). I understand how someone else buying a home for you is bribery and possibly money laundering. But why would someone OTHER than Katie Hobbs/person being bribed forge their signature? Why wouldn’t they sign the paperwork themselves? Are we talking sheer laziness? I’m too busy to sign my paperwork? You just forge it for me? Or is it for plausible deniability later on? It sounded like they tried to replicate their signatures.
The skepticism is somewhat natural but for other reasons. I suspect everything and everyone now and this story rings true for the simple reason that there are too many people out there that will dig down every rabbit whole and find the truth or what resonates as truth. The fact of the matter is the scenario painted by Thaler is playing out across our country and the whole world and it is being exposed so I will go with Thaler regardless of his motivations. It should be easy enough to check and/or verify the deeds/records et al so his creation of such a story doesn’t make sense and his custody battle is legit since I certainly would not want my kid exposed to the cartel element if I suspected as much. If he winds up dead,I guess we will have pretty good verification of his story, won’t we?
What folks need to understand about the Mexican culture is how they do business. “The mordida” (aka(bribe) is part of that culture and permeates every aspect of life there. That culture has been brought to the USA and taken deep roots and infects everything and every one that comes into contact.
Yup. It’s endemic to many other cultures, that’s why China was so quick to hand over a billion+ dollars for Crack Head to “manage” with 2% annual fees to be taken by Hunter and “the Big Guy”. You flatter the Prince (CrackMan) with gifts as a way of showing your appreciation for the King (Quid Pro Joe). And that kind of arm’s length bribery is actually legal under US law.
I also was of the opinion that this seemed too incredible to be true. As I thought on it, I realized what I do know. I do know AZ is one of the most crooked states in the country. I know McCain was dirty. I know the ’20 and ’22 elections were stolen. I know the MSM was in on the theft of the elections. I know drugs flow across the border in AZ like air through a chainlink fence. I know adults and children are trafficked across the border in AZ. I also know MSM is fact-checking this story to holy hell. All of these things were unfathomable 8 years ago. They are all an accepted reality now. Do I know Thaler’s information is true? I do not – but if history is any predictor of the truth, this will turn out to be largely true.
Very well said. The MSM reaction to everything shows their complicity, IMO. Like the movie 2,000 mules. They claim it is fact checked to be false. But if you read the fact checks, they don’t even address what the movie claimed (proved, really).
I just assumed the reason for the media’s steadfast left leaning dishonesty was cultural — liberal people are drawn to journalism personality wise. But it is so widespread in AZ there must be more. I first thought, ok, papers are afraid of being sued — the way Dominion went after Fox and one other. But it makes a LOT of sense that it could be they’re getting bribes too. And then some reporters may just be idiot a-holes who benefit from the way things are socially and want to keep the status quo.
I would be surprised if we discovered that Mexican drug cartels have NOT deeply penetrated the electoral processes in ALL of our border states.
After all, it only takes the smell of MONEY to turn politicians’ heads, and the cartels certainly have PLENTY of it.
Here are my 2 cents as an experienced family law lawyer, as it pertains to the allegations raised in the divorce/custody matter and that judge’s response to them. In 95% of the family law cases I have handled, one or both parties have insisted that the other party is “crazy”, bi-polar, abusive, narcissistic, and/or delusional. Many times people misunderstand either the evidentiary impact of ancillary matters or the court’s disinterest in hearing about every alleged skeleton in the closet during a 25 year marriage.
That said, I have had a few cases where provable allegations of misdeeds of the opposing party are either so shocking that the airing of them may jeopardize safety of the client or others, or where evidence demonstrates that the oft-cited yet rarely proven “old boy network” is actually affecting matters behind the scenes. This is incredibly rare, but it does sometimes occur. There’s a reason why many states recognize the spousal testimony privilege — it is often the spouse that is the most likely to have evidence of the illegal acts.
As a practical matter I would be astonished if a family law judge allowed for a through investigation and airing of allegations such as those raised in AZ in the context of a family law case. I am not the least bit surprised that the judge dismissed the claims as fanciful. Why would a judge endorse such risky allegations in a divorce case where such evidence is unnecessary for the court to rule on the issues? In other words, no divorce court judge will ever lend credence to such politically explosive claims because to do so would be risky and potentially harmful.
I don’t know whether the allegations made last week are true or false. Hopefully the truth will prevail. But I do know that the family law judge’s ruling should be considered in context. The court’s determination that the allegations are unsubstantiated does not mean that they are forever debunked.
IANAL, but that is exactly what I was thinking – -this is divorce court, not criminal court. They are there to dissolve a marriage, not investigate ties to a drug cartel. Most judges will not want to deal with that and like you say – they get so many accusations of spouses being cray cray they take it all with a grain of salt.
That is the most useful and germane comment so far, thanks for taking the time.
Wow dude you never heard of Fang Fang who was doing Bang Bang and helped boost Eric Swallwell right into US Congress in her role as a Chinese CCP spy? Cartels use similar tactics, I can’t believe you left your analysis hanging on the idea of a divorce court “motive”. The book also is an obvious attempt to end-run the media blackout that will certainly try to snuff out this story, and all his hard work investigating this. There would be no benefit to putting out slander and libel to sell a book full of lies – you’d be dead meat in litigation, and disbarred.
Arizona has been a corrupt state going back to the killing of reporter Don Bolles, and the wanton behavior of liquor magnate Kemper Marley. Which connects to John McCain who was another corrupted guy [his deadly wet-start accident on the Forrestal and his CINCPAC father’s coverup of it was a vulnerability] who was involved in trying to steal large tracts of property (I can provide names of the targeted victims), and he was used as the handler to set up the US/ISRL intel agency controlled “ISIS” proxy army in Syria (which was mostly about oil, and I can provide photographs of him with the principals of that group), and many other dirty deals.
You’ve been at this long enough that the most plausible REAL motive should have occurred to you even on your first pass over this info. But at least you posted the link to the interview with Gail Golec, so kudos for that.
Have you seen the “evidence” Thaler & Breger provided on twitter of envelopes from the AG’s office addressed to Thaler as “proof the AG was in touch with Thaler” — but other people claim they are from the child support branch, not the AG’s office. And why show envelopes but not actual correspondence. Do you know anything about that or have an opinion on it? Thaler/Breger had not responded last I saw.
No but the return address is an issue. One response could be “we grabbed the wrong envelopes” and others near at hand had the more relevant return addresses. But I am partly going from my impression of Thaler’s interview with Gail Golec, which was pretty nuanced. Take Tucker Carlson last night showing the Jan 6 surv-cam footage… as an example. At some point we must believe “our lying eyes” and not listen to the paid off or hysterical media hyena minions.
I believe her. I live in SC and a lot of the same sort of fraud, racketeering, real estate and estate fraud are going on and worse. I’ve blown the whistle on some of it myself. Rogue agencies and cops won’t investigate themselves. Local, state and federal gov regulatory agencies, politicians, cops, lawyers, banks, biz, real estate agents and churches all involved. They meet at the Luciferian secret society lodges to collude and orchestrate their crimes. It’s indeed massive and nationwide. I’ve spent the past 7 years trying to find someone to investigate. I got robbed and my husband was killed in the process. When people start stonewalling and gaslighting me I know they’re complicit.
Maricopa is a Mafia-Cartel enclave going back the better part of a century.
Cindy Hensley-McCain => father/uncle Hensley Brothers => Bronfman family => Meyer Lansky => Lucky Luciano. Today, the criminals are networked under Sinaloa. What Americans need to do going forward is doxx all the gangsters and their connections, form close relations with their local sheriffs, and lay seige and surveillance on counties such as Maricopa.
Exactly right. This stuff is nothing new, the Machine pulls in fresh assets and learns from past mistakes.
So what if the motives are greed, revenge, profit or personal gain? The veracity of the claims themselves is all that matters. If even half of what they say is true then there’s a major problem.
I heard that the way Thaler discovered his ex-wife was operating for the cartel was that she came forward as a whistle-blower and applied for witness protection. Maybe she had an attack of conscience when she looked at her 5 year old son (or maybe when he was born, since she came forward 4 years ago) and thought of those innocent helpless children being sex trafficked by the cartel.
If Thaler wanted to win a custody battle with his ex, would he really need to present the entire case against BRC and DRC in custody court? That seems excessive and the wrong place to present it. I do acknowledge the strangest thing about this whole case is that BRC is Thaler’s ex, but it becomes more understandable when we know she came forward as a whistle-blower.
Kay griggs talked about this kind of thing years ago. Fascinating interview she did being the ex wife of a high ranking military official.