Let me qualify this post and question by saying this is something I have wanted to ask and write about for quite a while. I often ask this question to people I meet in general life discussion, and I am very interested to hear every response. Today is a great day to ask this…
Think back… So, you are living your life, doing what you and everyone familiar to you are doing in the ordinary and regular way of living your specific life.
Perhaps you paid some attention to the political comings and goings of things, perhaps not.
Perhaps like most comfortably invisible people you were just putting one foot in front of the other, and generally doing the day-to-day things that most would consider ordinary.
Then one day, for some unknown and likely not that consequential reason, something caught your attention. Something piqued your curiosity; perhaps you noticed something you wouldn’t ordinarily have noticed. Perhaps you heard something, or saw something, or were just in a situational space where something itched your brain as you looked at something, heard something or noticed something that just didn’t quite fit or sit right.
Perhaps that little something, or big something, caused you to look just a little bit closer at the story, event or moment with a little more curiosity than before. Perhaps you dug into that specific moment with a little more than a side-eye glance, and you noticed something. After looking at it a little closer, you realized that construct was not at all what it appeared to be on the surface.
From that moment forward, for the first time, you really started to question the ‘thing’ that was in front of you, and from that moment forward, you woke up to recognize that things around you, things you perhaps didn’t pay attention to before, were not what you thought they were. It was from this moment when you really started to pay attention and your political awakening began.
Question: When was that moment for you?
I am always amazed at the replies I get in real life to this question of when the individual awakening began.
For some it was at an early age, for others much later in life. For some it was recently, and for others it was a long time ago. However, for everyone there was that moment when it started, and it is completely unique to the individual.
So, on this day, Sunday February 19, 2023, a generally innocuous day in the grand scheme of things, I pose this question to everyone.
Yes, even all the CTH lurkers who read here and never join the conversation. The comment section is open for all replies with the general rules of on-line decorum still standing. Us old schoolers still use the early internet standards of on-line discussion, and CTH requests polite and civil conversation that enlightens, expands thinking and uplifts the audience.
I am genuinely curious and will be reading every reply because it’s really cool to see what that “moment” was for each person. I’m pretty sure the entire CTH community will also enjoy reading the unique replies to the question.
We all travel a different path. We all come from different, likely comfortably invisible, life experiences. And we all merge into this big melting pot of curious people who are looking deeply at the issues we face. Regardless of how each of us arrived here, the larger dynamic is that we likely share a common curiosity for the reality of our situation. It’s a safe bet to say that almost everyone reading this is in the top-tier of “high information” consumers.
My question is not what arrived you at The Conservative Treehouse, but rather what the moment was when you began looking around and realizing that things just didn’t seem to add up. That’s the origin of the journey. That’s the moment I am inquiring about.
Perhaps it’s a weird way of looking at CTH, but our fellowship is always what has been the most important aspect to this little corner of the internet. It’s not the content of the Treehouse, but the conversation on the porch that matters. You, the readers, friends, people who assemble here, are the important element. Not me and not the site admins.
That’s genuinely the way I have always looked at our fellowship, and that’s also the reason for every detail I put into keeping this little corner of the internet standing.
So, with that in mind, what was that moment in your life when you realized the social, political and/or media narrative, was not at all what it was presented to be?
Love to all,
~ Sundance

My husband and I voted for Ross Perot! We knew change was needed, we had enough of the lies and deceit. Our families blamed us for the Clintons winning, thus started the division in our family. After 2020, the division is deeper after our oldest son married a liberal woman and she brainwashed him into no contact with us. We have missed our first two grand daughters coming into the world, he does sends pictures occasionally, but we won’t bend the knee to them! Our other 3 adult children won’t talk to their brother because of her! The Bible foretold this division in families! Come quickly Lord Jesus!!
For me, it was the fall of 2008, when everyone was proclaiming the birth of the Obamamessiah and McCain not only refused to discuss the fraud of the miraculously changing Birth Certificate, but actually threw the election over the mortgage melt-down.
Good point about the birth certificate. They just swept that under the carpet.
I changed political parties because of Tom Tancredo. His stance on illegal immigration really spoke to me. It was such a clear message. His message coupled with fact that I worked in a Correctional Facility that had a contract with the Feds to house Federal prisoners, most of whom were Hispanic drug dealers, sealed my opposition to the U.S. open borders reality. The number of pretrial Federal prisoners was growing quickly in my work facility. THAT was back in 2005. I left the Democrat party. I was furious about open borders. I became a news and politics junkie.
THEN, in 2007 Obama entered the POTUS race. I studied everything I could find about him. I sensed something about his background was not right. I was convinced he didn’t qualify for the presidency. He had registered as a foreign student. He had not renounced his Indonesian citizenship. Then documents about him started being scrubbed from the internet. He would not release his birth certificate. The whole TARP deal was suspicious. It only enhanced his side in the 2008 race. I was dead set against him. I still am. I think HE stole the election in 2008. And in 2012. By January 2009 I was apoplectic.
That lasted til Nov. 2016. I had a brief respite for a few months; and then it became obvious to me that some entity was declaring war on Trump. The Marxist Stream Media, I call them. I had by this time retired and had lots of time day and nights to read about 30 websites every day. Article after article, usually from new aggregates. I ditched Drudge after it became obvious it had been sold to some secret Progressive/Communist entity. By this time I had a folder full of Conservative websites such as this one.
The 2020 election Steal followed by the Capitol Hoax (I call it that because I could see from private citizen videos being uploaded to Twitter THAT day, the 6th, that there were agent provocateurs coordinating the breakage and entries through opened doors to the building–and I quickly realized that Trumps advertised in advance Rally had been planned to be hijacked by The Deep State). I saw the home video of Ashli Babbitt being shot with John Sullivan standing over her filming her dying. I had seen info about him being arrested in the Summer of 2020 as an Antifa member of a riot. I think it was Andy Ng who I can thank for that report. I immediately recognized Sullivan in photos with Ray Epps the night before the rally. He was dressed as a MAGA supporter that night and the next day during the shooting of Babbitt!!!! I was on high alert and have been since then. It has been very enervating because I’ve spent so much time researching all the reports and deciding which ones to save to folders or not.
I’m also worn out but at the same time elated about the acquisition of Twitter by Elon Must. Now all the doctors I followed since March 2020 are back on Twitter spreading their opposition to everything that has happened by our illegal Biden Administration since Jan. 2021, and admittedly during the last 9 months of the Trump Administration, regarding COVID19. The COVID19 shamdemic/plandemic/scamdemic coupled with the elections steals of 2020 have kept me very busy.
I am fighting news burnout. I am convinced God has a plan to combat all of this evil abroad in the world. I have read the Book of Revelation. The whole plan is laid out there. We just have no idea what God’s time table is. But it is beginning to look like end times.
I come here because it IS a refuge. If I want the proper perspective I always can rely on this website. I appreciate your efforts so much.
God has a plan and you are part of it Deb…
Thank you, Ram. I am waiting for Jesus.
After stupidly voting in my first Presidential election in 1976 for Carter (I am a Minnesotan, what can I say), I watched as his administration failed at every turn and then failed really badly with the Iranian hostage situation in the most feeble rescue attempt I have even seen… I thought how can these people be so stupid? That was my turning point.
Betrayal, the discovery of and conformation of is a hard pill to swallow.
Living in Washington state for 78 years has confirmed that our government has betrayed us again and again. We the people have been used and abused eventually being stripped by taxation of our wealth and assets we have worked for over our entire lives.
Growing up on the coast I have seen firsthand the destruction of our small towns by them destroying the timber and fishing industries that once sustained us. I always questioned why we the people continue to vote back in the democrats that destroyed it. Today I question…Where they voted in???? Probably not!!!!
Before she died, my Democrat county chairman Mother confessed that she and other party officials marked ballots on election night. Any races that were not marked, where filled in for the democrat. Always mark all the down races even if naming your dog or kitty.
When my son ran for a legislative seat in the 90’s, our campaign workers at the inner city polling places observed and followed buses full of democrat voters going from one polling place to another to fill out provisional ballots. Did we the people throw out Slade Gordon {R}? No! The thousands of provisional ballots tipped the election after 3 recounts to Maria Cantwell{D}.
Those are my firsthand accounts…there are thousands more…Today we have all mail in ballots…no opportunity to cheat there!
The day Kennedy was murdered, my hard-core Democrat parents stated that no one alive that day would ever know the truth. They knew without any doubt that LBJ and the CIA did the deed. They grew up in the Depression and WWII as young adults, but never talked about that time.
In researching that time for the book I am writing about my mom, I discovered the intentional slaughter of all the young market animals, the plowing up of planted fields and the military roadblocks so farmers could not get food to the cities.
Destroying the food supply, rationing of fuel, cheating with more votes than people that live in precincts in the cities…118%…sounds like we are reliving that time today.
Awakening to the fact that Democrats are filthy crooks that will cheat and destroy anything, I changed direction and began championed for the good guys…the Republicans. Alas being immersed into that club, discovered that they destroy as well. Donald Trump, his campaign and time as president exposed the swamp…and all are in the ooze.
I thank God that the Treehouse brought us all the rallies, the speeches and the real statistics so the corrupt media has been exposed as the enemy of the people. Now the question becomes–How to remedy this? Watching most of our people fall for the covid deception and the control they went along with does not give me confidence the when the next betrayal is attempted that that we the people will finally stand up and say ENOUGH!!!
Well said, the elite can stop some of us all the time but they will never stop all us.
Enough.
It’s been a lot of things. I was 13 when JFK was assasinated and I never believed the Warren report. When I was 16, I was in DC and trying to figure out how to get the documents, which were sealed for 75 years, out of the National Archives.
I lived in NJ on 9/11 and read a lot of “conspiracy” websites. I never understood why fighter jets didn’t stop the airlines from hitting the World Trade Center and Pentagon. I still don’t.
The one that really opened my eyes was when I saw George Zimmerman on Hannity. They had pictures of him beaten up by Trayvon. It was the first time I knew that the press and government deliberately lied.
That was when I started reading Conservative Treehouse. I am an almost daily reader and sometime commenter.
Now I am retired and I watch Bannon every day. Steve Bannon really loves the Conservative Treehouse and is very complimentary of Sundance. He’s right. I wonder if it has increased readership.
This is the first place I always go to get the truth. Sundance is the one who has been proven right through all the corruption.
Thank you Sundance.
The Bundy ranch and BLM fiasco lie that corporate media REFUSED to report and nearly led us into a shooting war against our corrupted government was my Sundance moment.
No one reported the details of facts like Sundance. It was a epiphany.
I was your typical liberal, living in a big city and working in academia. I had a subscription to the NYT and a PBS membership, and that was the source of most of my news. I believed that conservatives were either poorly educated or religious fanatics. I knew that for an absolute fact, although I’d never actually met any of those folks.
I was deliriously happy when Obama won. Finally we would have a better society – an end to the wars, affordable childcare! But it soon became obvious that Obama was a standard issue politician. Oh well.
The first deep shock for me was the Snowden expose. I respected Glenn Greenwald; I’d been a regular reader of his going back to his Guardian days. Snowden put everything in a new light. It paved the way for me to pay attention to Ron Paul, something I never would have done otherwise. Paul’s economic ideas seemed strange but I liked his foreign policy. And then Ron Paul came in second in Iowa and the newspapers reported on the winner and the third place. Paul wasn’t mentioned anywhere! I couldn’t believe my eyes – that’s when it sank in that ALL the liberal media was heavily censored. I cancelled my subscriptions and started looking for alternatives.
It was a slow process, and I was at a loss as to who or what I was for a long time, but I had started down the road that would culminate with the unimaginable, crossing over from Bernie to Trump.
This is nearly my story exactly, including reading Greenwald over time and crossing from Bernie to Trump. I was a DC policy person (fed gov) until a few years ago. Learning that the DNC literally rigged the primary was my last straw. But in hindsight, the Snowden leaks probably played a role because I wasn’t going to quickly villainize Wikileaks like so many libs. Also (separately) I was intrigued by Bernie + Trump’s similarity on trade – and eventually tuned out all my regular news “sources” when I saw they systematically ignored trade (which was my biggest issue) and instead made the entire race about racism. It was hard enough even to find the full text of a Trump speech – and when I did, I thought, many Bernie-leftists would agree with many points here on trade (and wars). The scales fell from my eyes – it was all deliberate, and the dems were as bad if not worse.
I stumbled my way to CTH because I was trying to find serious reporting on the “Russiagate” BS – which many leftists knew was BS (remember when Clinton first trotted out “Russia did it” during a primary debate?? WTF) , but I couldn’t find outlets actually covering it. The rest is history. Like you said, it’s been a slow process of re-learning so many things I thought I knew as facts, when I’d taken it all on faith. CTH has been integral.
August 6th, 2015
First GOP debate.
Voted for Perot in ’92 and agreed with him on NAFTA.
Frustrated that both parties seemed the same on this issue but the lightbulb on how big the issue was didn’t light
2008 primary was the beginning of getting through to me. Shocked when McCain suddenly surged. Couldn’t believe that the cut/dried issue of Obama’s birth/not natural birth was ignored but MUCH more importantly, that “conservative” media ignored it and we were not allowed to discuss it. Also, the 2008 treatment of Palin by conservatives and media in general – eye opening!!!
2010 – Alaska primary. Disturbing that she was welcomed back with no issues as to what she had done to the Republican voters, candidate and party. Puzzled and really bothered me.
Treatment of tea party >>by conservatives and Republican politicians<<
Tea Party failures after they were elected
2012 primary treatment of Ron Paul – finally eyes opened and I was not even a Paul supporter! But his treatment by the GOP was Wrong!
Trayvon Martin … eye opening as it was an alt reality narrative … just like Obama had been. Everyone seemed to be playing along but a few. So much we weren’t even allowed to question. found CTH at this time.
2012 I was eyes wide open but still learning
Cruz and Paul in the 2014 primary and the LA primary election issues … by then I knew to expect this stuff but still sad to see the Tea Party fail … faithful CTH reader … I was watching live in June of 2015 and was READY for President Trump!
Too much fake news and alt reality narratives that we were supposed to ignore and play along. Too much thumb on the scale by the GOPe in the primaries. Too little accomplished when they did win. I saw through the Bush clan.
President Trump refused to stay in the narrative boxes created.
I became active as I had hope with then Candidate Trump. Have stayed very active ever since. Not enough MAGA have joined into party politics in many counties/states. Still an uphill fight but not too late – come join us!
Late in the game – I was former military and had an inborn sense to trust leadership. I had noticed things that were off, but accommodated that informatio into my existing paradigm. However, I crossed the hump with Trump. The big wake up call was looking into Guccifer 2, and how that was a total and complete psy-op. However, the real transformation – what helped me understand and deal with the pain in seeing how I was wrong and needed to have the courage to see things more clearly – happened on these pages of CT. This is where I cut my teeth on getting a better understanding of how the whole thing is being pulled off. I really thank you SD for the work you have done. It is the greatest hope for the US, for humankind.
I have thought about this for the past 24 hours and I cannot identify a “moment” of awareness but rather several moments of growth to where I am now. During the Reagan years I was too busy with professional training and early career development to pay much attention. I was simply a professed Republican without much foundation of understanding. In 1994 the “Contract with America” led me to consider why I am a Republican. Reading and contemplation began building that foundation of understanding that I lacked. During the GW Bush years in office I began to question why this “Republican” did not act like a republican. He added to the size of the federal government(Medicare part D, etc.) and started a war after 9/11. I believed then and still now believe that America could have been better healed and protected by spending those lost billions of dollars at home and not pouring American blood into the sand of the Middle East.
Then Obama came along. Two “Aha” moments broke into my American awareness. The “Fast and Furious” scheme opened my eyes to our active manipulation by our federal agencies. The Lois Lerner affair revealed the absolute bias of our federal government and their attack on our First Amendment rights. The final nail in the coffin of my naivety came with President Trump. The lack of support from the Republican congress for the first 2 years of his term uncovered the uniparty in all its glory followed by Russia-gate proving the grossly biased “Fake News Network”, opening my eyes forever.
Now here I am knowing that if we don’t fix the election system my grandchildren will be living under greater tyranny than we are now and will not have the freedom to achieve that we have enjoyed. I strive to help those around me understand and see the predicament our country is in, unfortunately the eyes of my children seem to be the hardest to open. I believe republicanism is the answer but Republicans have sullied the concept.
I’d been anti-vax for about ten years as whenever I asked for evidence the CDC-recommended dosage for children as safe I was met with pure vitriol and literal hatred. No evidence, mind you. So I came to the conclusion my children were all vaccine-injured in some way.
So when Covid came around that was a big nothing burger for my family personally. But that everyone else for it I couldn’t believe it.
I’m a prepper by nature, being from Maine so when a guy I follow, Curtis Stone the Urban Farmer, said he was on a podcast with Owen Benjamin and over 7000 people were watching it LIVE, I said who is this guy?
He’s the modern Rush Limbaugh for me. Funny as hell, and breaking spells all over the place.
I’m even now a Globe Skeptic. Can’t say I’m a flat-earther per se, but man, you start asking questions about what you thought was open and shut proof of the globe and you’re met with the exact level of vitriol re: the vaccines and fear-mongering over global warming and gun control. Literally the same hostility which means there is something to this flat earth stuff.
Research it yourselves, amigos. No, not the stupid flat earth society. For me it was when I went to Niles Beach in Gloucester, MA. I could see the ENTIRETY of the Boston skyline. You’re not supposed to see much more than the top of the John Hancock building. But I could, again, and again.
Then. you’ll hear it’s “refraction”. And you’ll just laugh because you know they’re busted and making crap up. I don’t take kindly to people lying to me.
The 2020 election – January 6th. Fox News bizarrely calling Arizona so early. The network we’d loved and supported all those years seized the opportunity to stick the knife in our backs.
The hundreds of thousands of votes that appeared. The Supreme Court refused to consider any of the challenges. Everyone was on board against Trump, GOP. We know it will come out that J6 was an inside job, a conspiracy to trap devout Trump supporters. Add to that the insane Sydney Powell and Lin Wood making Trump folks insane with grifting conspiracy theories. Absolutely nothing will happen to any of the perpetrators.
It felt like the scene in “Braveheart” when Wallace realized it was his friend Robert the Bruce who betrayed him.
I’ll give you Lin Wood but Sydney Powell is not a nutcase. She fought hard for General Flynn against the swamp and even got the charges dropped.
When I was 14 or 15 my mother and I were watching the returning POWs from Vietnam get off the plane. On stretchers, on crutches or on their painfully thin legs, I watched and asked, “Why did this happen?”. There was no good answer and I knew then there were bad things going on in our government and no one was stopping it.
1980
while in college
In the late 80’s I was in my late 20’s and cancelled my daily newspaper subscription when it became apparent the editorial board had literally embraced Bob Hope’s ‘compulsory homosexual’ joke. I realized their fake moral outrage was strictly political, they were using a segment of society to intentionally divide people.
During the early 90’s, I was in my mid-twenties when my husband went to work for the Depart of Ag in DC–he came in under Bush, went out under Clinton. During this time, we came to the realization that we were living under a uniparty. From that time forward, we have been well aware of what is happening and continuing to take place.
I was 17, walking , across campus at Gardner Webb in 1961 when the news that President Kennedy was shot. I remember going in to sleep, and dreaming the campus was being shelled. I knew at that moment things would never be the same again.
During the Vietnam war. My father watched the news every night and explained to me the lies being told. He explained that the veterans he came in contact with had very different stories than Walter Conkrite regarding Vietnam. I watched with him for over 10 years until I went to college. It helped that Dad was once a Democrat. He taught me to question and research. I still think of his words…and follow his advice.
I read Arnaud de Borchgrave’s ‘The Spike’ and I was amazed to find that the press need not “debunk” anything inconvenient —- they can just spike it. Harder to do these days, hence the active character assassinations. Another eye opener later was “Janet (Reno) Does Waco.”
Dial Emergency 9-1-1.
I watched the Whitewater hearings live one day on Cspan. I then watched the nightly news coverage of it that evening. The coverage did not match what I saw at all. It was like a bubble popping. I could instantly see how much the media was lying.
My journey as an observer
of the absurd began when I was a little boy when I turned 10 and I got my first 9 volt radio.
At night when I was supposed to be sleeping, I would be listening to my radio tucked under my pillow instead.
I found out a whole new world existed, and it was filled with some of the most interesting people I had ever experienced, right there under my pillow.
People like Larry King, Jimbo, Dr Demento, Art Bell and on a clear night Porter Wagoner and the Grand ol Opry to name a few that kept me company in the wee hours of the night.
I lost alot of sleep, but I learned so many new things listening to my little 9 volt radio tucked under my pillow.
I was hooked on talk radio ever since.
The politics came later, after I got out of the army, Clinton was President and I was driving a delivery truck for a printing company in the Chicagoland area. I would listen to the comedians on the AM dial like Larry Lujack, Kevin Mathews and Steve Dahl.
They would always make me laugh and made being stuck in Chicago traffic bearable.
Then one day, the radio station premiered this new guy I had never heard of before named Rush Limbaugh.
At first he would just crack me up with his bits and the hilarious names he would label some people with while he talked about politics and current events.
(Slick willie, Environmentalist whacko’s and the feminatzies etc)
It was not the way anyone else was addressing the people in power and some people found it very disrespectful like my mother did the first time she heard him.
I didn’t care I LOVED it!
When he talked about politics he didn’t just TELL me what the politicians said like everyone else did, he played the sound bite of them actually saying it. This was a such a powerful tool!
This man had the gall to question everything being said in the media and he was proving his points with their own damn words putting their hypocrisy on full display!
This infuriated the people in power so much that they began a concerted campaign to attack and smear the host and anyone that listened to him like ME with LIES!
I watched our crooked politicians and the entire media establishment ganging up on this one man who wouldn’t shut up because he was interested in the exposing the truth.
The same people that once claimed the first amendment was absolute, and used it to excuse flag burning, pornography and the rights of natzi’s to march were now doing everything they could to shut him up because they didn’t like what he was saying.
They attacked him personally, the stations that carried his show, his sponsors and even his listeners.
They even attempted to bring back the fairness doctrine.
That told me everything I ever needed to know about them!
Rush never quit!
That was everything I needed to know about him!
I was a loyal Listener for the next 30+ years.
When Donald Trump came down the escalator I watched the exact same tactics being used on him that they used on Rush.
They attacked him, his supporters, and his donors all because they didn’t like the things he was saying.
Only this time it wasn’t just the libtards and the media attacking Donald Trump, it was coming from most of the people I trusted and supported in the past.
The politicians, the radio hosts, the news commentators on TV and in print.
People I always believed were on my side were now attacking Donald Trump.
Even the Republican party joined the libtards and the media in attacking Donald Trump because THEY didn’t like the things he was saying.
And that was everything I needed to know about them!
I can’t go back to pretending anymore.
MAGA!
I always remember being a little interested in politics. I was 14 when Reagan won the 1980 election and the turnaround from Jimmy Carter seemed so dramatic. In 1988, I was a senior in college and had all my work done for my major so I was taking a variety of classes, one of which was Intro to Sociology, and I remember the professor talking about all the wonderful things about socialism, and how European countries were better than the US. It was really my first experience with pro-socialism, and I had already had enough general college society liberalism to make me inclined to believe that Europeans probably did have a better life. And then that summer I spent 5 weeks in England and discovered they also had homeless people living there! My professor had assured us that it was only the US that didn’t take care of their homeless, but just a few weeks later I saw proof that this wasn’t true. I came back from the edge of losing my conservative values, starting reading more conservative voices, started looking logically at issues, and became more politically involved.
I was definitely a latecomer to the party. Made it to my early 40s, living in California, lifelong registered Democrat, part of the professional/white collar/corporate world. Was not overly political but was generally on board with the left’s agenda – you know, the protect the environment, end racism, blah, blah, blah agenda. I lived a comfortable and happy life and went about my business without questioning much of what we were spoon fed by CNN, NPR, NYT, et al. What first caught my attention was how my liberal friends lost their minds over Trump getting elected. I mean these people seriously flipped out and were foaming at the mouth with hate and rage. I found it odd that you could hate someone you’d never met with so much intensity. I also found it hypocritical that they were so disrespectful of a sitting president when these very same people were livid over the slightest insult to Obama. That’s when I took my first step away from the cult.
The rude awakening that rocked my world and jolted me out of my blissful ignorance was Covid, and especially the vaxx hysteria. At the outset, I felt something wasn’t right with these shots. I expressed my hesitation in December 2020 to someone I previously considered a close friend and kindred spirit. Her baseless defense of the vaxx and her instant rebuke only furthered my suspicion and I started to dig deeper. I could see that everyone around me was under some kind of spell. Even highly educated, “intelligent” people were behaving like complete idiots. By spring of 2021, I started joking with my husband that I needed to make myself a tinfoil hat. I started watching Tucker Carlson on Fox (horror of all horrors to my erstwhile comrades) and seeking out information on alternative media outlets. My journey down the rabbit hole went deeper and deeper and I soon realized that everything, literally everything, I had ever thought or believed was based on lies. Now I can’t unknow what I know and find myself a pariah in the land of wokedom. I am grateful for my awakening, as painful as it has been. But man, be careful what threads you start pulling because you may soon find yourself unraveling the entire fabric of your life!
“Even highly educated, “intelligent” people were behaving like complete idiots.”
A lot of “highly educated” people ARE complete idiots. Being able to memorize and regurgitate is not necessarily indicative of intelligence.
In the 1970s I began to have my doubts. Nixon ‘closed the gold window’ and set up petrodollars. The irrational hatred of Nixon seemed because of his Ike / McCarthy days and not related to anything current. They just couldn’t let anticommunism live. I read None Dare Call It Treason and the ilk but it seemed like exaggeration, outrage and emotion. My college library had a copy of Carroll Quigley’s book Tragedy And Hope. I read it twice, and took more Econ and History courses. All during this time I lifestyled with the hippies, bohemians and musicians.
I watched Bill Clinton give his first nomination acceptance speech at the Democrat Convention. He began, “Before anything else, before I give my speech, I want to thank my mentor and friend and teacher, Professor Carroll Quigley …”
Inside myself I said, “It’s true, it’s all true! I questioned how can all of these things happen in America? It’s because there is a ‘they’, and they do all of it on purpose.”
At that time I began to call on God to save his Americans and our nation, and have never ceased calling on God.
I started paying attention after the 9/11 videos started coming out. Building 7. Then Seth Rich, McCain’s very dramatic speech on the Senate floor tanking Obamacare repeal. The Covid nonsense, BLM riots, Transition Integrity Project and the FBI stating former law enforcement and military are a threat to democracy, the 2020 election, Alex Jones, Russiagate – it just never ends!
This is great, Thank you once again Sundance for opening the door of introspection for us. This is a difficult question to answer as I thought about this… when “did” I really started paying attention.
Being a child of the 60’s-70’s living in So. Cal with a father that was self-employed in the gas station business I was fortunate to get some education from my father. I worked during the gas crisis of the 70’s, (gas rationing). Then I had to get rid of my hairspray (Aqua Net) and spray deodorant to protect the ozone & attend our first “earth day” rally to save the planet. Totally buying into all that crap bcz well I was in high school and didn’t know any better.
A few years later the hairspray was back but water rationing was in-so CA could flush millions of gallons of water into the ocean for the delta smelt and we couldn’t get things built because of a gnat catcher whatever that was. We – the citizens had to go without and pay for everyone else who didn’t work. I had figured out that taxes I worked to pay were not for my benefit.
I resented my hard-earned money going to pay for taxes to support those who did not work etc. living within the illegal immigration influx that was highly noticeable but downplayed by TPTB. But I only grumbled, young & too busy to pay real attention.
I was into my working years, I trusted my Dad and he loved Reagan & so I did too, as economic issues were the most important things trying to survive. I paid some attention but really started to wake up listening to Dr. Laura and Rush Limbaugh on talk radio while I was working on the road traveling in my districts.
That had to be in the late 80’s – there were so many events that did draw attention where the focus & media baloney was not how I thought, I was contrarian and always doubtful. I questioned things that don’t make sense and there are a lot of things that don’t make sense. After I retired I had much more time to learn as much as I wanted and it has been eye-opening, there is so much good information out there. I read everything I could. After 55 years in commiefornia I moved to North Idaho, I could not stand CA. Best thing I ever did. I was with my people!
I don’t know if or when exactly, but I know it was through Rush, I have to say he opened my eyes, the awakening began. My Christian beliefs, patriotism & love of America and the importance of our Nations history started to have more of an influence on the direction of my thoughts. I finally started to understand things, somewhat. Rush and others with like minds made sense of things. I could see the direction and changes happening. Obama was the nail in the coffin, completely turned me into the dreaded right wing – now graduated to right wing extremist terrorist.
I do not remember if I learned about CTH from Rush which I think I did back in 2012-during the Trayvon Martin debacle or if I heard about CTH from somewhere else, but I found a home here too. I miss Rush everyday although Clay & Buck do a good job, I am grateful for our refuge here at the treehouse. I’m impressed to see how we’ve grown our branches mighty and strong. I don’t post often but I do read everything.
I come here every day and am amazed when I find out I have friends (people I respect) that they are here too!
God Bless comrades. Carry on.
I finally figured out what is causing your comments – and those of several other Treepers – to continually be held up in moderation. It’s the “apostrophe” in your username! The apostrophe acts as a “delimiter”…which is a data and code boundary when being read by a computer program . Our software reads it as sort of a stop sign.
If you’d consider dropping just the apostrophe, it would solve this problem. It’s worked with SIX other Treepers who have tried.
it was the mid-80s for me. I worked for the Michigan DNR at the time as an environmental protection officer cleaning up oil and hazardous materials spills. Environmental hysteria was rife at the time with the Love Canal situation being the poster boy for “corporate greed killing the environment and people” being the media theme. I picked up a copy of a new magazine called Reason and read the background story of Love Canal, i.e., that the local school board wanted the land and were preparing to take it via eminent domain. The company that owned it capitulated and sold it to them for a dollar on the condition that no building would take place on the site. The school board then built a school on it and said the rest of the land for development as a subdivision. Since there was no municipal water supply everyone drove wells through the middle of the clay-sealed landfill, releasing the chemicals. I later verified this story through a variety of other sources. At that point I began to question all sorts of other things in the news and discovered this was not an anomaly – the media routinely lies about almost everything. As such I don’t believe anything at first blush – I always want the backstory. And by the way, the Love Canal myth still survives in almost everyone’s mind.
When Reagan ran for president and won, George Will had said he would lose. He said Reagan and followers would wither away and be condemned to exile in the hinterlands. I gave Will the benefit of the doubt. He made a mistake. I believed he was a true conservative. I’ve come to find out that there are a lot of pretenders.
When Neil Cavuto emphatically said, if you take hydroxy it will kill you. When they fired Lou Dobbs, When Fox called Arizona prematurely, when Fox News hosts demonstrated they have been captured and would not countenance discussion of election fraud, it finally dawned on me that both parties and almost all the media are part of a hive mind orchestrating a narrative – free and fair elections, Russia election meddling, Ukraine freedom fighters, global warming, secure borders, CRT, diversity is our strength, COVID lockdowns, Covid vaccines for children, ignoring ivermectin successes in other parts of the world, groomers, meat is bad, etc. I haven’t watched Fox since election night except for snippets of Tucker. That night, election night, I knew I had be had.
When Trump canceled the ‘Paris Climate Accord’, I thought he was just being petty because I didn’t know anything. So, I went home, downloaded and realized it was nonsense. I’ve always understood ‘climate change’ as it was being sold was baloney. The earth’s electromagnetic spectrum was part of my military specialty so when people w/PHD’s would open their mouth, I’d enjoy shining a blazing spot light on their ignorance.
Having been in the military till 2016, I’d avoided all things political. Believe it or not, take all the ‘conspiracies’ from 2000-2016, I’d never heard any of them. Suddenly, I found myself reading about HRC, uranium 1, realized I’d flown to Canada and fixed a cargo plane that only had one crate on board, wanna guess what it was? People talking about DUMBS, I’d been in/out of them while working w/(redacted) on testing/evaluation of a new weapons platform upgrade. I just thought six lane highways underground was cool, never realized it was considered a ‘conspiracy’. Chemtrails aren’t real right? Um, refilled the aircraft @ DAFB, we just added water, never thought twice about it. It’s a technology, you have to train w/it, it was the news, youtube, google, etc trying to deny it’s existence that made me wonder what the hell am I missing? FYI, chemtrails in battle are used to x-ray underground for tunnels, I don’t know if/what else they may be doing.
Honestly, I could and probably should write a book, I’ve crossed paths w/so many ‘conspiracies’…
The illegal immigration and Ronald Reagan’s amnesty. Everyone knew it would only bring more and it did by the millions.
Great question Sundance! Before reading any replies, I can say exactly when I started paying attention. It was not 9/11 (probably should have been) is was TARP. 2008-2009 the Trillion dollar bailout of Wall Street and the birth of the Tea Party. We melted the phone lines in DC and still the swamp sold us out. I have demonstrated twice in my life and both times it was against Obamacare. In the end the capital reverberated with chants of “kill the bill” but they didn’t care what the voters said. One you are red-pilled you never see things the same. As you say, once you see the strings, you can never un-see them. Yup republicons sold us out during TARP at least Demoncrats are honest about their absolute hatred for the working class
I live in Conservative Orange County California. In 2016, we “elected” an awful liberal Democrat named Harley Rouda. That same year Hillary Clinton got more votes here than Trump. That didn’t make sense. Ballot harvesting was in full swing and it changed the political leadership here and it is terrible. That led me to see things differently nationally and even around the world. Hillary is a crook yet she skated free of accountability. Things are not what they seem.
By the way, now we have even more awful Katie Porter as our rep and she expects to challenge congenital liar and corrupt politician Adam Schiff for Feinstain’s Senate seat. None are as blind as those that cannot see.
In 1969 I read William F. Buckley’s statement that in the 1960’s the federal government had destroyed more housing units than it had built. This was astonishing to me because in an extensive road trip I made in 1965 I saw federal high rise apartments in every major city. Then it came home to me how monstrous the whole “slum clearance” action had been. The government bulldozed working neighborhoods where people knew and looked out for each other and relocated them in sterile environments where nobody knew anybody and nobody was responsible for anything. In addition the government started subsidizing single motherhood and fatherlessness by paying the mother only if there was no man present. No wonder so many blacks resented the system.
Like many here, President Kennedy’s assignation, Vietnam, the Clintons, the Clarence Thomas hearings, and 911 all caught my attention, and then the Patriot Act and all the emphasis on climate change, which makes no sense at all except to make certain people rich. I noticed things in my personal life as well. For example, one day at a new job in 2002 I realized several people, including my boss, refused to say Merry Christmas and tried to intimidate anyone else from saying it. All these things made me angry, but I still didn’t think the whole system was corrupt.
I was raised in a Democrat household and paid attention to news, but I was busy working my way through college and then living as an adult. I paid more attention than a lot of my friends, but I had no idea how our civilization was deliberately being destroyed. I saw problems like the Patriot Act but thought with time things would be worked out. In no way did I even begin to understand there was an orchestrated and planned group – call them the Globalists or the WEF – calling the shots and that they demand a global government with them in charge and living in a reduced population and technologically controlled world.
When I first started to really get it was as soon as President Trump was elected, when the Globalist immediately threw everything at him. The better work he did, the higher they kicked it up. He spoke for me and obviously in their eyes he was enemy number one.
Over the first couple of years, I devoured everything President Trump said and did, and slowly learned. I think even he was shocked, or at least his family was shocked. I remember when he was first elected the family did an “interview” where they answered questions (can’t remember the interviewers but think it was someone like Barbara Walters). In my naivety I was glued to the TV, thinking we were going to have the same kind of world that happens after any election, and I was looking forward to seeing Melania Trump in all the magazines. Even that first year I thought we’d see Christmas at the White House as usually happened on cable TV. But of course, none of that occurred. The fear and hatred of our President was soon clear and on it went.
Covid and the stolen 2022 election put the final nail in my understanding of the horror that is coming. Since that time, I’ve been trying to figure out who the Globalists are, how they got their start, how long they’ve been operating and controlling events behind the scenes, and to figure out more about what they have planned (like how they will reduce population, how will they create the surveillance state, and what AI control means).
I’ve been listening to Clif High’s videos on Rumble. His information about the area of Ukraine (an area on the crossroads of ancient trading roots) is fascinating. Some may think his ideas are “out there.” But trust me, if I had to tell someone who had just woken up from a 20-year coma about what’s happening now, I’m sure they would say I’m crazy.
What I’m focused on now is money. What’s happening is all about money. As Sundance says, trillions are at stake. It’s about people who already have money who’ve decided they want more money and power and to become global dictators. Covid and mRNA vaccines are about money and so is the banking and financial system, the Ukraine War, the train derailment and what is being called a controlled burn in Ohio, and anything else you can think of. It’s all about money and power. We’ve got to understand the Globalists “have a plan;” they are organized; and they have no problem killing however many people it takes to achieve their aims. We must get smart about how we fight back. We no longer live in the same country we grew up in and we need to learn to fight in what, after the 2020 stolen election, has become a new world order, and it is slowly getting worse.
Most recently the witch hunt for Trump, the 2022 election and the “vaccine” being pushed down our throats (figuratively,) with firings and worse for noncompliance. I’m sure there were earlier times, but the last few years stand out.
It was during one of the earlier political debates taking place on tv that President Trump was in running against all the Republican candidates. I was leaning toward Doctor Ben Carson until that debate. Dr. Carson was called early but out of line and had to stand at the stage entrance leading onto the platform. All the candidates were called and when they passed Dr. Carson standing there, they totally ignored the poor man and just walked past him as if he were a ghost and was unseen by them until candidate Trump who stopped, put his hand on Dr. Carson’s shoulder and spoke to him allowing candidate Carson to go before him onto the stage. It was that concern for another person, which decided for me to vote for Trump and to ignore all the bad publicity about him. This in turn made me focus more on the media catching it in many lies and coverups from then on.
Age? Just entered double digits.
Dad informed me my government is the largest threat to my freedom and liberties. He explained that the Vietnam war was for profit, Gulf of Tonkin a lie and “public safety” was a buzzword to restrain and remove civil rights.
He was a professor at Perdue who received 2 B’s from leftist activist “professors” that he disagreed with. He was correct on both disagreements. They were the deciding elites.
It was during the Clinton administration that it became apparent to me that the democrat party had been waging a Cold War against our Constitution, and consequently America since before the Wilson administration. When Oblahblah essentially took it hot, and our big talking Republican party essentially rolled over for a tummy rub from the light-bringer, it was obvious that we had been sold to the highest bidder.
That view was cemented when the best president of my 60 year lifetime was elected in 2016.
Read animal farm my freshmen year in high school. When I was a senior my English teacher said the book was garbage and much of the abuses in the Soviet Union were American propaganda. It was then I realized that communism was not just a Russian thing, but it was a cancerous rot right here in America. Getting worse every year.
I had been gradually noticing things in the 70’s living in California as a USMC wife during Viet Nam and Nixon’s resignataion, but became so busy in my nursing career and motherhood I didn’t pay close attention to the world until the day I saw Barrack Obama on TV. I didn’t know who he was, where he was from, or that he was going to run for president. I had a physical reaction to him, I kid you not: chest pain, fear, actually saw red flashing lights and heard no no no no. After that I made it my business to find about about him (destroyer of America) and everyone else in both parties got a much closer careful look and information sought from different sources to keep from making the wrong decisions about the wrong people. This world has changed alot since 1975. My eyes will remain wide open.
My first of such moments was when my 9 year old was diagnosed with Crone’s disease and we met with one of the few local pediatric gastro docs and he wanted to start him on a new drug that had a potential side effect of a fast moving deadly cancer. We switched to the only other local pediatric gastro. Both didn’t know (or seem to be interested in what caused the disease). When I asked the second doctor what role nutrition and diet played in my son’s intestinal health he said “None.” That was when my eyes were opened to how much Big Pharma dictated medical care and how little Doctors knew (or cared to know) about our amazing bodies and how they are impacted by health and nutrition.
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Learning to despise and revile the Left was quick and easy. Learning to hate the Republicans was a much slower, longer and more nuanced process.
I was never a Liberal. My parents were always anti-communist. One grandparent was forced to flee Russia to escape the spreading fighting of the communist revolution and ended up in the USA. The rest of her family had their property seized and were killed or sent to work doing dangerous jobs they died doing except for the youngest sister. In 1979 when I was just a “tween”, Marxists took over Santa Monica, CA using rent control as the wedge issue. They had failed to pass it in 1978, so left nothing to chance the next year, with even more community organizers, significant voter fraud, etc., then took over every elected office in the city over the next two years and they still control it to this day. It was just like a mini-Obama coup, and now I see it for what it was. I got one hell of an education over the next couple decades, watching all the misery and stress they put my parents through. So that’s it for the Left, my hate has only grown and is at Pinochet levels.
Uncovering the wickedness of the GOP was a slower and more difficult process. Growing up a “Reagan kid” through the 80’s, perhaps I can be forgiven for taking a carefree “Republican good, Democrat bad” attitude. Bush the First’s breaking of his “Read my lips, no new taxes” pledge and the subsequent recession was the first sign of trouble in paradise. There were more disappointments,(Bob Dole? Congressional Cave-ins?) and enthusiasm waned steadily until Newt Gingrich came along with his Contract with America. That helped perk up my enthusiasm a bit, then came the great disappointment of Bush the Second, followed by a fundraising event in ‘01 or ‘02 for John McNoname at where else but Rupert Murdoch’s Bel Air mansion. I was practically dragged there by my mom who wanted to see the house as much or more than McStain and besides, they were offering invites for half price since they were having trouble getting people to attend, and then it happened.
I politely and deferentially asked McStain a fact based question about some shortcomings in the McCain-Feingold act based on some information I’d heard while listening to Rush during the prior week. Mom and I both saw it. His face briefly contorted with rage at being questioned, he quickly got it under control, then put on a fake smile and lied about it right to my face at this high dollar fundraiser.
That was the end of our family’s brush up against the GOP’s donor class tribe. We stopped giving, dropped out of groups, and stonewalled those people out of our lives having seen the clear line of demarcation between our ideals and their shady deals. Having seen the puppet strings and sausage making indistinctly, but too close for comfort, I pushed politics aside for the better part a decade, only rousing a bit to oppose both Noname and Obama in 2008 (Santa Monica & McCain flashbacks horrified me out of my recliner), and Culty McMittens in 2012.
The final evolutionary stage came during the campaigns for the 2016 election. I thought I understood, thought I had it figured. I was a Ted Cruz guy. I’d seen links to CTH, bookmarked it, but couldn’t quite come to grips with the information provided and so shied away from it until Trump won the nomination. After coming to grips with that and accepting it, but before the November election, I again started visiting CTH and at some point read a repost of the article about Ted Cruz and his sneaky antics regarding the TPP and other trade stuff. BOOM! That was the moment, when I -understood- the post, and that “Lyin’ Ted” was an accurate evaluation of the man, not just branding him as a campaign tactic. The last curtain fell, the last fuse blew on the noise generator, the last fake hero had been toppled, and I SAW, just like a scene out of “They Live”.
Clarity and knowledge have only increased for me since 2016, and in a weird way, my journey parallels the evolution of television:
From basic Black & White to (blurry) Color, to DVD (Enhanced Def), to HD, now Ultra HD (4k).
There will probably be a new Ultra HD (8k) level coming for me in the future as masks continue to drop and the Globalists can no longer hide their true intentions or no longer care to.
…And I couldn’t have done it without sundance and CTH. No shame in admitting that, just relief that it happened.
Thank you sundance, thank you all, from the bottom of my heart.
After serving 25 years as a member of our local Club Exchange Student Committee of Rotary International, and asking each high school age candidate what form of government the United States had, in those 25 years only ONE student correctly answered that question. I then became severely critical of our local affiliate of the NEA and the Dept of Education and the local school board. I became opposed to the direct election of Federal Senators to Congress which created the Professional Political Politician. I stopped watching television news programs and sought my news from other sources. The thinkers that attracted me were William F. Buckley, Jr. Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Rush Limbugh, and Victor David Hanson.
My “moment‘ came after seeing Antifa riots, BLM riots, defund police movements, Soros elected DA’s, release of career criminals, bail reforms(?), and the Obama / Biden Administrations design to destroy our
American Culture and Constitution. Is this a coordinated effort? I believe YES . And they don’t have the cahoonies to be up front about it. Maybe my blinders got in the way.
Coming across CTH has only strengthened my developing distrust of government. I am a strong believer in pre-eminent States Rights and LIMITED Federal Government.
With all gratitude and respect to Sundance, a huge lot of this also goes to the late, great Rush Limbaugh, who redefined “a breath of fresh air” among other things!
I have had evolving “ah-ha” moments. Raised in a Roosevelt era Democrat family…the utter failure of Jimmy Carter and the rise of Ronald Reagan inspired conservative world view was my first “ah-ha” moment. From there I pretty much followed the Republican Party play book. I was introduced to Rush Limbaugh and again had many “ah-ha” moments. It was not until the election of Donald Trump that I “woke up” to the cruel reality of the Deep State, the “Uni-Party” and the reality that like the Democrat Party, I had been fooled by the establishment Republican Party. I continue to evolve with my introduction to Dan Bongino and the new alternative media including the Conservative TreeHouse. Thank you for being a voice of reason in a world that otherwise doesn’t make sense.
The WEF has really frazzled me. Long time observer. Governments world wide are aligning to the same playbook. The covid playbook gave them power, not for the safety of citizens, and thus control over actions we were allowed in society. Now the move to go to digital currency. That’s the nail in the coffin.
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Wow, why me?
Want to know how a child can grow up decades faster than normal? Be a military brat!
My Dad was in the Air Force. When I was in the second grade, in October of 1962, Dad was stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB, Tucson Arizona, I was seven. In my world, within days, my neighborhood turned into a ghost town, the school bus was empty, and I had 1 other kid in my class. Good thing he was a buddy, another Brat. The folks of Tucson left the city, because they lived next to the Strategic Air Command, (SAC), the spear of our nuclear weapons delivery, the B-52 bomber. It was the Cuban Missile crisis, and civilians figured we were a top 3 target, for a nuclear attack, so they left town. For weeks B-52’s took off 24/7, every takeoff made my house shake like an earthquake, glasses falling of the table, it was scary. Our Nuclear Bomb alert at school, seemed silly, 2 of us under our desk, while the teacher was tugging on a bottle, inside her purse.
Dad got tired of being an E-6 and went to school, in Colorado and Orlando, Fla. to learn maintaining the guidance system for the world’s first nuclear tipped cruise missile, named the Mace. The Air Forces answer to protect Germany from a million t-34 Russian tanks sitting on the border of Europe. After Dad finished school, I had my first ride on a commercial 707 Jet Airliner to Frankfurt, Germany. We traveled to a base in western Germany, Hahn AFB. and Mace headquarters. Just a year had gone buy, we lived in a German village. It was a hotel, movie theater and a ghasthaus (bar). On November 2nd, 1963, My Mom ,sister and I watched an American Hercules movie, with German subtitles. we had to walk thru the bar, to get to our room. The silence was deafening, some people were sobbing. John F. Kennedy had been shot and died in Dallas, Texas. JFK was a hero to the West Germans, when he made a famous speech at the Berlin Wall. JFK was a hero of a divided country by Communism, in this little village, where just under 20 years earlier, American forces overwhelmed the Nazi Army on it’s way to Berlin. At the wall President Kennedy, quoted in his famous speech at the ‘Berlin Wall’
“And there are some who would say in Europe and elsewhere, we can work with the Communists. Let them come to Berlin. Ich bin ein Berliner”
We all sat together and mourned the death of our President. 2 Years later, My Dad brought me to Berlin.
In the spring, I had turned 12, finishing the 5th grade, when we crossed the border of the 2 Germanies, West to East. We were stopped at the border, Dad went into the Western German, HQ, and checked in. We had 106 KM to Berlin. The Communist HQ was next, East German police, with their brown uniforms, with a bright purple trim. Dad got his orders, don’t stop, look straight ahead and be on time. They were timing our journey. It was a pretty desolate drive, but there were soldiers walking in the woods near the road, in fool Combat gear, doing what? Scaring the hell out of me. We arrived at the end of the ‘ride’. Dad informed the West German’s what he observed, and the East German’s, he was on time and saw nothing. Then we drove into a robust busy city, West Berlin. The next day we went the wall. There was a road that traveled along the wall, where buildings, along the wall were gone except where the front of the building was part of the wall. There were wreath’s on the wall. some with a framed picture of a person within the wreath. We stopped at a spot, where the was an elevated platform, with steps that aloud us to see over the Berlin Wall, to the eastern side. A wreath was in front of the platform. There was a picture of a young man. I had and still have this magazine of thWall and this place at the wall. It was the picture of a young man named Peter Fechter, he was 18. We took the steps up to the platform, where I witnessed Communism in it’s true form. On the other side looked like ‘Omaha Beach’ at Normandy. Metal H beam barricades, rows of barbwire and some size of a football field of no man’s land. There were towers placed within shooting range of each other, with guards and mounted machine guns.
The young man tried to escape, so desperate, he ran the gauntlet toward the wall where I stood. As he ran the guards shot him numerous times, yet he somehow reached the wall. He laid by the wall, cried for help for 50 minutes, to weak to climb. He laid there bleeding to death, while the East German guards stayed put. Western guards gave him first aid packets, but he was to weak, to use them. As he died the East German guards finally came and carried him away. I looked at pictures of Peter, as I read about his fate. He gave his life, running for freedom from Communism.
I started paying attention from that moment, and every moment sense.
The Glenn Beck Program. The chalkboard programs were visually riveting. They Opened my eyes to the evil that dwelled in our nations capital.
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