The more I see how much attention was exhausted focusuing on the Chinese balloon, the more I am inclined to believe the attention was manufactured by internal deep state operatives.
Secretary of State Anthony Blinken cancelled his trip to China over the spy balloon issue, and beyond the general cancellation, he also cancelled a rare meeting with Chairman Xi. Xi never almost never meets with foreign ministers, only Presidents and Prime Ministers. So, what gives? Did the intelligence community expose the balloon crossing to stop the Xi/Blinken meeting? I don’t know, but something is fishy.
Former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Ratcliffe gives his .02 cents. Ratcliffe takes the position that it was an intended spy and surveillance operation by China, and it was successful. WATCH:
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To understand Biden and his foreign policy we have to assume Obama is calling the shots. Who is Obama, really? He’s cruel, perverse and blood thirsty. He laid the ground work for war with Russia in Ukraine. He killed millions in the middle east. World War III and killing billions would have to be on his agenda. Biden is his puppet and if you think about it Biden always does the worst possible thing for the U.S. because that is what Obama is telling him to do. The ball is rolling now and it can’t be stopped. Evil has been unleashed on the world.
I’ll assume that Obama is calling the shots. But, WHAT IF HES NOT?
Obama is one of thepricks behind the curtain. He is and always has been an America hater. He is a bisexual Marxist traitor.
He will not be in missed.
Shadowy figures, like in the IC, that we have never heard of might be calling the shots. They certainly have info that can embarrass and/or blackmail most in DC. They might be “siloed” so that even Biden, Obama, or most of the visible ones don’t even know who they are. They just know that they must jump through the hoop when ordered.
….and I do believe that Kamala was hand picked by Obama. Talk about being under the thumb of Obama.
One whore choosing another. Who would have thunk it?
The thing that’s weird about Kamala is that ALL OF THEM are as dumb as she is. 90 percent of her problem, that makes her such a joke, could have been fixed with a course of basic media training. Did she get into power and then think she got there herself and refuse the training? Does she not listen? Is it lazyness and lack of study / prep?
I mean, a dime store adviser could tell her that giggling like a pre school teacher talking to kindergarteners about space travel, isn’t a good look.
Two possible explanations among others:
(1) Kamala is not as stupid
as she looks. She is
obedient, and she is
scripted to look uber
incompetant to achieve
tactical surprise in 2024.
This tactic worked for
Joe’s handlers at the
first Trump-Biden
debate.
Why not repeat it?
(2) Kamala is demonicly
possessed, and her
demons care less and
less about appearances
as their puppet abuses
us.
I notice that this weird giggling afflicts several other corrupt politicians in this administration and outside it.
I lean toward (2), but (1) & (2) are not mutually exclusive.
Obama’s handlers are making the calls. Never thought that Obama was in charge
Obama might be directly behind Biden…in the basement calling the shots. But, even if he is, he’s not the main character; he serves a bigger master. As all the so called world leaders are doing. That master is the New World Order and the WEF. Is there one person in charge? I don’t think so, it’s more like a bloodline or family or organization that has unlimited resources in the way of money which gives them power over government’s and corporations. Like whoever is behind the central banks. The federal reserve. Neither are US or under American authority. You have to look at the history of the banking system to get to who is behind what’s going on. I have been labeled a conspiracy theorist over and over for everything from my stand on the jab and the election steel. This is no different.
I believed and put out there as soon as this balloon thing came about that it’s not what they are telling us. They…the ones that have been lying to us about the elections, the jabs, the deaths, and everything else…are the same ones telling us this was a Chinese balloon. I never believed that and still don’t! There is absolutely no reason to believe a single thing that comes from the media or this administration! PERIOD. So if they are saying it…its most likely not true! I think this was deepstate. I think this was surveillance, and that they were looking at certain parts of the country where they know there are pockets of militias, and predominately red states that are and will be problems for them going forward. Remember this……
It’s never what “they” say it is! And I will never believe what they say…till it is proven. They have lost any trust they ever had…at least with me. Everything now is looked at through that lens!
TY
Obama is no more “calling the shots” than Soros, or any of the other shot-callers of years past such as Kissinger and Harriman before him. They are no more than lieutenants, front men and women for the people who do call the shots, and direct the course of national governments.
Obama is venal and corrupt, and definitely works to steer Joe (only because Joe is not bright enough to do it himself) and thus the country in the desired direction. But he is no one’s mastermind.
Obama was a wax figure puppet as well, he was being directed and controlled by criminals behind the curtain of the same communist cabal Biden is. All Obama is, and now Biden, is the face of the criminal freaks running the takeover that is 3/4 completed
Biden is driven by a desire to get back at everyone who called him stupid along the way.
Especially Putin who embarrassed him big time when he was vice prez years ago at a meeting in Moscow. Putin is still running rings around him.
Whew!
(Breathes deep sigh of relief) …
Thank you, Sundance. For a while there, I feared that John Bolton had somehow gained control of this site, and transformed it into another outpost of Neocon central. The Last Refuge is notoriously the last citadel of common sense and healthy skepticism, so it is not surprising that the comments collectively have expressed ever increasing doubt about a story that struck some of us as worthy of Suspicious Cat from the get go.
“The Last Refuge is notoriously the last citadel of common sense and healthy skepticism”
Really? Care to provide examples for that bullshit statement?
I dont think he meant it how you took it.
Agreed! Gee…some take things sooo personal! No need to get upset or use profanity. If you don’t agree, click off for crying out loud!
Hit a nerve? Wow!
Was Covid made in a lab?
Was it jointly researched by the US + China + others?
Was the mRNA method a proven or experimental one in 2020?
Did DARPA in 2015 tell the NIH + CDC that Ivermectin was the best med for a coronavirus outbreak? Did our institutions + most experts ridicule the very idea of using a cow med (Ivermectin) for the Covid Outbreak in 2020? In 2023 what is their opinion of Ivermectin now that the vast majority of people have taken at least 1 mRNA shot + a year of lockdowns has passed?
How long have the Elites been saying Science proves Human Over-Population is going to doom the planet in the not distant future (12 years as AOC parroted)?
Has there been any reporting the past decade about the Ultra Wealthy spending millions of $ on luxury bunkers + fortified islands?
Have a number of experts’ wrote reports (I’ve been quoting from the past 36 hours) stated our primary enemies are enthralled with EMPs as a 1st Strike weapon ideal against the US which they could use a high-altitude balloon to deliver?
Did we just witness the same government that did gain of function research to create Covid with the Chinese + warp sped dangerous mRNA shots into production + pressured all of humanity to take them + locked down the world for no sound health reasons —— just allow a Chinese high-altitude balloon fly across the United States including the highly populated Eastern Seaboard?
Does anybody want to chime in about how nutty + prone to exaggeration I am?
Can you show me in the above where I am way off base?
— but this weather balloon was just a deep state head fake distraction…….
If I’m hyperbolic, how deadly do you think casual dismissal of these things could be…?
After all we have witnessed since Dec 2019, is it better to be paranoid or unsuspecting?
In the Milgram Shock experiment, experts predicted a fraction of the individuals asked to give another test subject a lethal shock if ordered to do so by a person in authority would do it. In reality, over 50% did.
The Asch Conformity Experiment found – you don’t have to pressure every expert to pretend they’ve never heard of Ivermectin used for coronavirus treatment or the like + ridicule the idea. — You just need enough authoritative professionals to do it to make peer pressure + the need to fit in to take over.
The point being, for all those thinking it is simply not possible what I’m talking about above could happen in this day-n-age, certainly not in the West — even experts in psychology have been stunned by the type of experiments that hint – yes – it is possible.
Just found I’m locked out of YouTube for spreading dangerous Vaccine Disinfo.
Notice what the Surgeon General + CDC + FDA say in the CNN report + compare it with what is said about Ivermectin now + what Dr Shoemaker says was concluded in 2015.
They had no trouble getting these experts to play along even when the lives of millions was at stake…
https://rumble.com/v210baa-they-lied-people-died.html
Iggy, Excellent comment, have to agree with you
I agree Iggy, excellent comments and spot on. When I mention these things to friends, family and co-workers, they shrug their shoulders and say there is nothing they can do about it.
My elder mother is a master of sarcasm + mockery (so I get it genetically) + she uses that to maintain the mental happy place in her head. When something big happens + she gets me to talk about it, I can get thru those standard defenses, but when she is finally able to see + admit the facts – she wins by saying exactly what you wrote – “So what can you do about it?”
I say, “Walk into the future knowing I didn’t let them force me to pretend” and the conversation ends.
Happens about 3 times a year since 2019…
Iggy questioning all. Agree. Carry on.
If I remember correctly it was around 65%. I read up on this about 16 years ago, it has completely changed my view point about people, the herd mentality and ” I was just following orders”. I loved your post above and I agree better to be paranoid than unsuspecting.
I go with the premise that everyone or most people are an incident away from a camp guard, and I do not mean summer camp.
I think the mask people yelling at me solidified my thinking.
They learn the group think in school. No independent thinkers, allowed.
Thankfully, homeschooling has been on the upswing for awhile now.
Yes!
Pre-2019 Unsuspecting seemed fine but turned out a deadly cancer.
Post-2019 it is a proof of compitulation…
Dr. Peter Venkman:
It didn’t get to the “highly populated Eastern seaboard.” They showed us their route, which is to end in lesser populated North and South Carolina. Their allies in the “highly populated Eastern seaboard” were unscathed…so far.
It’s my understanding that an EMP deployed over middle America will take down the transformers from sea to shining sea, including Texas’s transformers. It is also my understanding that the best way to deploy that weapon is via a balloon very much like the one the buffoons in charge of the country and military just let cross the country collecting all the data they needed for a successful mission.
A report I quoted said 75% of our power is from the Eastern States which a balloon burst would hit.
As far as I have found, to blanket the whole continent, it would need a missile or satellite burst.
Balloons to date can’t reach the nectary altitude for that but are better in other ways.
I have linked to 2 recent reports for the Military + others in different threads s these past 2 days.
Compared to the Midwest + Mountain area…
One quote I posted stated even a minimum EMP + the minimum height of 30K over the Eastern US could destroy the grids where 75% of the nation’s power is produced + transferred.
I believe it was Joel Skouson + Robert Welch decades before him that claimed – the Elites planned to reach World Government by pulling 1 of the Tripwires of Korea or Taiwan to have a WW3 in which China would be elevated to Global Power Status + the US (American people) knocked down from a position of preventing a World Gov. from being possible.
I thought it was hooey the vast majority of my life.
But overtime, as I saw how much EFFORT was pumped into China by our Elites, I began rethinking things like my bewilderment as a teen at the ferocity at which the Establishment went after Pres Reagan when he introduced research into Star Wars to give the US the ability to shoot down at least a limited number of missiles a rogue nation might launch.
Over time, other things like Roosevelt + Churchill + Stalin naming China as a future World Policeman in Cairo in 1943 stood out. What was China like for the 100 years before 1943 + in 1943? A basket case.
Why did the US cut off Chaing Kai Shek + South Korea when it knew Stalin was building a Military for Mao + Pyongyang? Why did the US flip on a dime when war broke out + guarantee the security of SK + Taiwan – creating Tripwires – that we have maintained ever since…?
Why did Nixon – caricatured as the archenemy of Communism – normalize the CCP to pave the way for saving Communism by allowing the Elites to shift our manufacturing base + industrial finance to China? Why do that in a time some experts had noted the USSR + Eastern Block were in decay + decomposing?
— I was still a majority doubter —— until Dec 2019…
In 2016, Leo Zagami wrote a book focused on – 2020 – saying the Elites in the Secret Societies were all a chatter about the takeover of humanity to push for Utopia – what we know now they call The Great Reset. He warned us to look for the release of deadly viruses + a major war building up to WW3.
In 2016, Newt Gingrich in response to a question said the Elites wanted to destroy Trump so much because he was not an Adept of the Secret Societies + they had no clue how to control him.
In 2013, the UK ran a limited series drama called Utopia which is basically the Covid Playbook Leo Zagami warned about.
In 2020, the US redid Utopia but for only 1 limited season.
1 Big Pharma Executive Researcher said recently she has traced contracts via FOIA Requests – traced them back to 2012-2013 where she says several key Gov Orgs began organizing the research into Coronaviruses + Outbreak Responses + primarily how to keep it secret + keep their tracks covered. She was 1 of the 2 Big Pharma Whistleblowers who said – knowing the industry – just looking at the huge variations by batch # proved the whole industry was conspiring together because the break from past excellence in production was astronomical….
A recent India Scientist said that in 2012, the mine in which the primary component of Covid-19 from bats was discovered after miners got sick.
A Whistleblower from Ecohealth Alliance says it was around this time they were pitching to win contracts from NIH + the CIA to collect that virus + others around China + beyond to do Gain of Function Research in Wuhan. He said he discovered Metabiota was also getting contracts for that (which we now know they did in Ukraine as well).
The India Team in Dec 2019 reported the Wuhan Virus was clearl spliced together from at least 4 natural viruses + done using highly professional means. That paper was suppressed + I still had trouble find good video for it 3 years later.
— I could go on…
A majority of the datapoints above are in the compilations I’ve been making the past month or so.
I will keep putting things together like that as it strikes me as things unfold.
Good luck everybody.
Pray regularly.
We need to see a revival in belief of the need for God around the world now.
As last night’s Emmy showed again – our cultures are still running in the opposite direction.
Lastly, Alice Bailey – the spiritual leader of a New World Order – had a book published in 1957 that claimed the Hierarchy that runs the world in the shadows would Externalize in 2025.
Like Leo Zagami, that prediction has a short shelf life. Time will tell as always…
Wherever I’m wrong, I didn’t get there frivolously or overnight + because I try to think in % chances, I try to adjust as I go along.
Barring Revival – I give it a 85%+ chance – We’re screwed… in this Age… but those on God’s side can’t lose where it truly counts.
Pray +
God bless…
TY for that thoughtful, informative post. You’re DEFINITELY correct that our country, and the world at large, need to turn back to God, and stop considering ourselves gods, or God’s equal.
Right on, Iggy!
Here’s a little gem I found via Project Veritas in January 2022. The second article is the most damning one
that shows the proposal and how they KNEW Ivermectin and Hydroxy Chloroquin plus Zinc were curatives that
would stop the virus.
Bastards.
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/2mVob3c1aDd8CNvVnyei6n/95af7dbfd2958d4c2b8494048b4889b5/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
Thanks much.
I completely understand why the Average Person is turned off by Alex Jones, but I am probably alive today after my Covid experience because I watched InfoWars, noted sources + issues mentioned + the people he had on + then dug into them…
I second your, “Bastards” comment!
I agree with most of your assessment. Question everything and consider the source always! But, paranoia will not serve you well. Being awake and aware, in tune with your self…inner Presence always guides, as long as you do not allow fear…which IS paranoia in a form, to enter in. That comes from what you allow in your thoughts.
True. I was looking from the pov of others at that point. How the norm was to be considered paranoid or a conspiracy nut for just mentioning those points or looking into them.
I don’t feel paranoid or outlandish but that isn’t how the Average Person sees it…
The last serious relationship I was in in 2020 was with a strong Christian but she would ask me confused, “Why are you reading THAT???” when she looked at my Kindle + saw books on the history of the Occult or Leo Zagami’s Confessions.
I told her it was so I could better understand what we were witnessing in the world + on MTV + Hollywood – like the Emmy last night – which she always tuned into + sang along with…
She didn’t want to know + thought it weird I would…
Sometimes our subconscious protects us for a reason. I was outside with coworkers the night the huge alien(?) spaceship was hovering over Phoenix years ago. Someone told me to look up. I didn’t. I also tuned out their talking so I missed the whole thing but I don’t mind at all because there’s a deep inside part of us that knows all and protects us this way. I can only make useless speculation as to why.
Frustrating to be alone in a relationship but I think that an active mind gets used to having different human resources for different topics and you definitely have an active mind.
Thanks.
I went thru the type of trauma as a toddler I later learned is also used in Trauma-Based Mind Conditioning. So in that period in which every child is constantly asking “Why?” my version was a somewhat different in terms of what the brain was doing.
Later it translated into multi-disciplinary study that suited me + kept me less compartmentalized.
Thankfully, the input (during that childhood period when the trauma happened) was my extended family within walking distant + going to church…
In the Bible, it teaches those seeking God won’t be tested beyond their endurance. That doesn’t translate in being undefeatable in combat or a struggle. It means the Holy Spirit will not let you be broken + will help guide you the more you are willing to follow.
It also teaches that – even for those following Him earnestly + studying His Word in the Bible – the Holy Spirit prevents full revelation. That things are revealed as God’s timeline unfolds – so that even the wisest of one age will not recognize the correct interpretation of something that will unfold in the future. It is revealed on God’s schedule.
That’s how I see what you were talking about not looking up while others were. It could have been as God wanted it.
I can understand why many don’t want to consider some topics I do – I mean the topics I had no choice but face from the time I could crawl. I don’t hold that against them.
To each his own – under God…
Ivermectin isn’t an animal medicine they decided to use on humans; it’s a human medicine they decided to use on animals.
You couldn’t be more Spot On~Just cuz we’re paranoid, doesn’t mean someone’s not out to get US~mo…
“Ratcliffe takes the position that it was an intended spy and surveillance operation by China, and it was successful.”
I don’t doubt it was successful in gathering intel.
I just hope it was not successful in spreading spores over a wide area of America’s breadbasket to cause crop failure, particularly given the flight path.
Ooohhhhh…..that’s a thought.
They will not admit Wuhan, why would they admit this?
Just a few weeks back we were reading about some brilliant billionaire that is testing how to influence weather. Trial runs of some substance planted in clouds to test if he can control or effect weather. I say with a blistering June, 2022 and now a horrid freeze over the northern part of the USA, 2023 something is going on. The balloon is another ?
Did it see it’s shadow on February 2nd?
HAARP = High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. A 94 year old gentleman who was a family friend worked for them and talked about them manipulating the weather and that was about 30 years ago. Can you imagine what they are capable of now? Earthquakes, tsunamis…
Yet so many don’t believe it possible.
We were taught in grade school about weather manipulation and how great it was going to be for the world when our government scientists conquered it. Then total silence for decades. I always remember the margarine commercial – “It’s not NICE to fool mother nature!”
This is some kind of bull crap. If spy balloons did indeed cross the US in the past….it would have been because the deep state knew it….and did not tell Congress or the White House. That’s an even more dangerous thing than not detecting it.
The House repubs need to investigate this in several committees.
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Chinese spy balloons over US during Trump admin ‘discovered after’ he left office: senior Biden official
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official
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Biden admin offers to brief Trump officials on past Chinese spy balloon incursions
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/05/trump-officials-deny-chinese-spy-balloons-00081257
I personally think it was a false flag event.
The Who What When Where Why and How’s do not add up.
‘Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including Ratcliffe.
A harmless balloon?
Chinese media including the military channel of state broadcaster CCTV reported in September 2018 that a high-altitude balloon tested hypersonic missiles, and a video showed it carried what looked like three different kinds of warheads.
Source: Financial Times
That publication is as deep state as they come.
notice how cackling Kmonya is nowhere seen. Being prepped for a bigger role maybe?
Ambassador?
President
As congress begins its investigations into the weaponization of the federal government against conservatives expect many more bright, shiny objects like the balloon story. This is only the beginning. The purpose is to keep Jim Jordan limited to Fox News.
I think China doesn’t care about Jim Jordan.
—They sent a military capable balloon –remotely controlled and maneuverable, not floating on the wind.
— China positioned it to hang out for an extended visit hovering over our nuclear weapons silos in Montana.
—It is a type of balloon that can carry a payload. In fact Gen’l Ryder at the Pentagon said it was carrying a payload in addition to the surveillance equipment. Check the meaning of the word payload as it is used in military parlance.
—There are some things that balloons do better than satellites including carrying different payloads. This balloon is of a type that is able to carry a nuclear device needed to take out our electric grid -EMP attack.
—-In 2017 China tested the use of a balloon to drop 1000 shoebox-sized drones.
—For some types of spying, an unmanned, remote-controlled, maneuverable balloon is better than a satellite.
Some surveillance equipment is useable that isn’t useable from either the ultra-high motionless satellites or the lower orbit satellites that whip around the planet every 90 hours.
This balloon could take advantage of surveillance equipment that can detect hidden structures. Some on-the-ground interactions and communications are more clearly detected. And while hanging motionless over our nuclear weapons silos for days, China was able to track the movements of specialized military personnel, record routines, whether a particular silo is undergoing maintenance, etc.
—-As long as there is even a slight chance that the remote-controlled, maneuverable balloon carried some serious payload I fear a passive nothingburger response will be our end in the end.
Taking this seriously does not take away from the other critical situations we face such as election fraud and weaponization of the government. It is the only rational response to treat this as the worst possible scenario until proven otherwise. With certain payloads there would be no do-over. The risk is too great to laugh and dismiss what just occurred as a “distraction.”
It was a TRIAL BALLOON tasked with proving (for those Rip van Winkles requiring fresh proof) that the $742 billion we spend annually for ‘national defense’ is a big budget Maginot Line.
We got a clue of this when Mad Dog Mattis recoiled from defending the southern border. ‘Not my job’, he said, as though we were asking a high-paid cleaning consultant to polish the windows. Yecch.
Big budget hi-tech pointed at third-world shitholes and complexified stuff is DOD’s game. Sure it probably won’t work, but it pays well, what with nebulous R&D ‘deliverables’ accompanied by chasm-like budgets.
Chairman Xi has done us a favor. Maybe he’s trying to nudge the American Body Politic: ‘hey comrades, wake up! You’re one balloon away from apocalypse.’
The American military is all about profit. The Russians have an extensive civil defense infrastructure that they test-run millions through on a regular basis. We have nothing. That tells you everything you need to know about the prioritization of the American people vis a vis their ‘defense’ expenditures.
I’m with Smedley Butler. The Pentagon is a racket. Period. It’s not our military folks. They just let us staff it. It belongs to the Empire.
“In fact, the Nation still wraps itself in the Empire’s exploits with a patriotic vigor that obliges it to insist, against all evidence, that Iraq and Afghanistan were missions of existential import to the safeguarding of American neighborhoods.”
https://thesaker.is/a-glimpse-beyond-the-unipolar-moment/
Just a distraction to keep eyes off the Ukraine fiasco and pivot toward China as the desperation sets in ever more deeply. What a sad way for an empire to decline and Fall.
….and cause the Republican House members to focus on other things besides the Deep State and misdeeds in the USA Congress, et.al.
This Empire has been in decline for quite awhile, staffed with DEMS, and now Rinos, since at least Woodrow, if not earlier! And the MSM has been an enemy since at least Joe McCarthy. WTP MUST get back to God!
Biden’s admin had apparently managed to hide the situation for about a week as it traveled from China across the ocean, to Alaska, Canada and then Montana. This was a maneuerable balloon also capable of hanging relatively stationary.
The snag for Biden in keeping it quiet was that China set the balloon over our Montana nuclear silos for an extended period (days). If it had just flown thru the state perhaps the public’s reactions, photos, inquiries might not have gained so much traction. But it stayed. It stayed, hanging right above our nuclear silos for days. The Montana public began to take pictures and it snowballed as news spread to point that the Biden Admin had to come out and address it.
The sensitivity of the Montana location and the extended stay over the silos combined to create a hard-to-cover up situation –at least that’s my current sense (who knows what tomorrow may reveal).
Ok just had a thought –what if China didn’t want the Blinken visit to happen?
After a week of watching Biden successfully hide the situation, China must have realized Blinken still intended to come even with the balloon coming over here. Perhaps China’s very public behavior in Montana was designed to force the issue in front of the public and thus corner Blinken into eventually caving and canceling the trip.
Between China, Biden, CIA and who knows what other players, there are a lot of moving parts behind the scenes that we may never fully unravel.
I suspect they thought we would never know. It took a photographer in Montana to notice it and start asking questions to get them to admit it.
Didn’t Blinken wok with Biden to set up the UPenn Chinese think tank deal? It was being exposed and he was going there for clean up.
Totally manufactured. It is obvious. I find myself thinking everything is an operation unless the event is proven to not be an operation, something yet to happen.
I am even wondering about the Apple Repair guy who has both Mac and Issac in his name. Anyone else think that is strange? I believe the laptop as well as the other 2, but who comes up with these names?
He seems legit to me. A bit squirrely, but legit.
I believe he is too, my point is the name is very Apple ish. Like a bad novel.
MacIsaac is a Scottish name. Mr. MacIsaac often wears his Scotch clan plaid in items of clothing. The “Mac” is enunciated clearly, often with a brief pause after it, so as not to confuse it with “Mc” which is usually Irish.
I understand all of that as my Dad’side has a clear Scottish line going back to the Reed Robinsons. My point is that he has a perfect Apple name. Like Made-off, Bank- Fried, we can go on. Not saying he is a fake just commenting upon how things fit together.
Say what you will about that thing, but I still think that it was a weather balloon. These are commonly used all over the world to passively monitor “jet stream” winds, and they can remain aloft – solar powered – for many months. They burn no fuel. They can go all around the world several times … wherever the winds may take them. But, you cannot steer them.
Although you cannot predict where they will go, their “present location, direction and speed” is part of what you seek to know. These winds aloft actually have a strong influence on surface weather, particularly this time of year.
The course plotted for this device is simply – “that of the jet stream.” If it “passed over military bases,” that is coincidence.
It is unusual for such a device to be at a low enough altitude that you can see it from the ground, but still that is entirely possible. I don’t believe that it was a “Chinese military surveillance device,” no matter what anyone in the government may now say. I think that someone owes recompense to some private company [in China].
Per the Pentagon unlike a typical weather balloon this Chinese balloon was fully maneuverable (i.e. remotely controlled) and was not simply floating with the wind currents or Jet Stream. It’s behavior fits with this.
Not only was it able to track a course that doesn’t fit with air currents, the balloon was also able to hold its position when desired for very extended periods, for instance hovering directly over our Montana nuclear weapons silos for days.
China claims government ownership of the balloon, not a private company.
Distraction v serious threat. Are you so sure it is harmless, you are willing to take the risk? The only rational response is to treat it as a serious threat until proven otherwise.
Treason. Don’t we have ANY honorable military? Guess not.
The balloon was WELL ABOVE much of the jet stream, which is roughly 40,000 ft plus or minus
Maybe someone knowledgeable can comment on winds and circulation at 60,000 feet?
See my comment on the other thread:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/05/sunday-talks-house-intel-chairman-mike-turner-discusses-likely-china-objectives-with-massive-surveillance-balloon/#comment-9559830
What did Milley know and when did he know it?
I canceled my cruise because it was going to be hot weather in St Thomas
The thing that struck me as odd was how quickly after the balloon became general knowledge did the government not only admit that it was Chinese, but insisted that it was a “spy” balloon, in spite of China’s claim that it was a private weather balloon.
I’m not saying I think necessarily that they were lying, but only that it struck me as strange that they didn’t dissemble a bit for “plausible deniability” reasons if nothing else.
It just struck me as a “look, a squirrel” type situation. Trying to get the public’s collective mind off the classified documents kerfluffle? Giving us something to talk about other than Hunter Biden’s legal team essentially admitting that the information coming from the laptop from hell is legitimate?
I don’t know what they were distracting us from, specifically, but based on the speed at which it all unfolded, it sure struck me as a distraction event.
Obama’s third administration. All his traitorous minions are in place and carrying on his promise to, “fundamentally change America”.
I hope they all rot in hell, sooner rather than later.
My current thinking is that the Chinese balloon was like the velociraptor in Jurassic Park- testing the defenses and perhaps the communications.
Jees Its not like the “Spy Balloon was a stealth device. It was known and tracked by our attack defense radar far out in the pacific.
Then classified as a non threat and allowed to continue. Even passing over some sensitive Radar installations in Alaska like the Clear Space Force base. If China wanted close up pics of that place all you have to do in do a search on the net. After passing thru Alaska un molested. It then followed the air currents and jet stream around a polar vortex located over Canada moving the Balloon south.
Then it crossed the border into the lower 48.“This Jet Stream leads to the shadowy tip of reality: you’re on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable…Go as far as you like on this road. Its limits are only those of mind itself. Ladies and Gentlemen, you’re entering the wondrous dimension of imagination. Next stop”….Clown World
Is it time for someone to be looking at North Carolina carefully?
There is North Carolina. They insert control characters into election rolls, so citizens have a hard time combining necessary rolls for analysis.
If voter rolls aren’t opaque enough with hidden characters (Wisconsin), inserted control characters (North Carolina), prohibitive costs (Alabama, Wisconsin) or stupid laws that you can be prosecuted for looking at voter rolls if you are not an approved species (Virginia, California), we have a new trend.
Make it a crime to look at voter rolls!
https*//www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/j-valentine-election-officials-dont-want-see-voter-rolls-go-away/
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North Carolina: 5,453,888 (97.6%) 5,160,000 – 293,888 more people voted than are registered to vote in the entire state.
https*//newswithviews.com/illegal-ballots-counted-what-about-those-house-and-senate-seats/
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Chinese spy balloon now spotted over Charlotte, NC., where several high-altitude jet contrails have been reported. NC is home to a number of key US military installations, inclg Marine Camp Lejeune near the coast & Fort Bragg near Fayetteville, home of the 82nd Airborne
https*//www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/developing-joe-biden-son-hunter-arrive-syracuse-new-york-personal-visit-biden-tells-reporters-us-gonna-take-care-china-spy-balloon/
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Note: all locations in close proximity
https://www.mapquest.com/directions/from/us/north-carolina/greensboro-nc-282039451/to/us/north-carolina/fort-bragg-nc-283594149/to/us/north-carolina/chapel-hill-nc-282038912/to/us/nc/camp-lejeune
1. Home of Air Born unit and special forces sent to Ukraine.
Fort Bragg, North Carolina(NC)
2. School purchased by and ran by Communist China for Biden’s illegal Immigrants.
Hebrew Academy in Greensboro, North Carolina(NC)
3. First Created Spike Protein for COVID-19 by Communist China and American Scientists
At the University of North Carolina,Chapel Hill, North Carolina(NC)
Surprise! Shady Communist China Firm Financially Involved in Biden’s Luxury Camp for Illegal Alien Children in North Carolina; Chinese Took Over School’s Board in 2019
By Kristinn Taylor
Published July 9, 2022 at 2:10pm
The 100 acre, $84 million luxury campus of the American Hebrew Academy in Greensboro, North Carolina, site of the Biden administration’s five-year lease for a new camp for illegal alien migrant children, is being backed by a communist Chinese company, Puxin Limited, that loaned the school $26 million dollars in 2019 and continues to be a lender to this day. Top ranking academy board members were replaced by Chinese figures after the 2019 loan, according to reports. Two months ago the New York Stock Exchange suspended trading in Puxin and moved to delist the firm.
A September 19, 2019 press release by Puxin Limited announced the loan.
4. Camp Lejeune, NC
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BEIJING, Sept. 19, 2019 /PRNewswire/ — Puxin Limited (NYSE: NEW) (“Puxin” or the “Company”), a successful consolidator of the after-school education industry in China, today announced that it has entered into a loan agreement, deed of trust note and other ancillary documents with American Hebrew Academy, Inc. (“AHA”), a North Carolina non-for-profit corporation, pursuant to which Puxin extended a loan in a principal amount of US$26 million to AHA to fund its operations of an international college prep boarding school in North Carolina, the United States. The loan bears an interest rate of 18.0% per annum and becomes due on September 6, 2020. The loan is secured by AHA’s interest in certain real property located in North Carolina.
About Puxin Limited
Puxin Limited (“Puxin” or the “Company”) is a successful consolidator of the after-school education industry in China. Puxin has a strong acquisition and integration expertise to effectively improve education quality and operational performance of acquired schools. Puxin offers a full spectrum of K-12 and study-abroad tutoring programs designed to help students achieve academic excellence, as well as prepare for admission tests and applications for top schools, universities and graduate programs in China and other countries. The Company has developed a business model effectively combining strategic acquisitions and organic growth achieved through successful post-acquisition integration, which has differentiated the Company from other after-school education service providers in China.
Judicial Watch reported the positions taken by the Chinese:
“The American Hebrew Academy has deep Chinese connections, according to records uncovered by Judicial Watch. Its president, vice president and treasurer are Ni Zhang, Shong Gao, and Wei Yang. A few months after closing in the fall of 2019, the school took out a $26 million mortgage from Puxin, a Chinese education company. It planned to open under a new name, but never did. The money HHS is paying in rent will likely be used to pay back the Chinese company.”
WFMY-TV reported at the time in 2019 the Puxin deal involved more than a loan:
Public records available with the Guilford County Register of Deeds show that on Monday, September 9, American Hebrew Academy (AHA) transferred financial liability of its 100-acre property in Greensboro NC, to Puxin Limited, a publicly-traded Beijing-based firm. The documents were prepared in Orange County and signed an notarized by a Durham County Notary Public on September 6th.
Puxin Limited is a Chinese K-12 after-school educational services provider based in Beijing. The Company offers study-abroad tutoring programs that help students to prepare for admission tests and applications for top schools, universities, and graduate programs. The documents also showed Puxin entered a lease agreement with AHA and the Deed of Trust amount of $26 million.
Excerpt from Floridian Press:
After securing the loan from Puxin, AHA went through a similar restructuring and rebranding process. Ditching the religious aspect, it renamed itself AHA International School — a secular college preparatory high school geared toward international students. It announced its anticipated reopening for the 2020-21 year.
A source familiar with the transition rebukes claims that Puxin’s role was strictly financial in nature. Puxin was deeply involved in the rebranding efforts and may have even pushed for the school to reserve 1/3 of its future student population for Chinese students.
Just as Puxin issued the loan, 8 AHA board members either stepped down or were removed.
Ni Zhang, Shong Gao, and Wei Yang stepped in to serve in the highest ranking roles.
The school’s registered agent on its business registration documents changed from former CEO Glenn Drew to a woman named Qinghua Zhao.
Puxin’s financial records to its shareholders indicate the company’s income from the interest-bearing loan increased drastically from 2018 to 2019 as well as from 2019 to 2020 and attributed the growth to AHA.
William Scarborough, who oversees AHA’s property and represents the board did not respond to requests for the names of current board members but did confirm Puxin refinanced the school’s debt in 2019 when it was the verge of default. He also confirmed that Puxin remains a lender to the school.
North Carolina’s eight Republican Congressmen, Richard Hudson, Ted Budd, Madison Cawthorn, Patrick McHenry, Virginia Foxx, Dan Bishop, Richard Rouzer and Gregory Murphy have been raising a stink about the Biden administration’s plans to house illegal alien children at the luxury campus.
The Washington Examiner reported Friday the Biden administration signed a no-bid contract worth $177 million with New York-based Deployed Resources to manage up to 1,100 illegal alien children and underage teenagers in the lap of luxury at the academy.
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Make that .016 cents. Gotta account for Bidinflation ya know.
The purpose of the balloon is not gathering information.
The purpose is to position ordnance at the optimum altitude in order to obliterate all ability to communicate and function.
There is very much literature covering. The military clearly knows, the government, media … Why do they speak about a “surveillance tool”?
Is “leadership” afraid of scaring the people? Or are they involved in setting the people up for destruction?
On controlling balloon paths:
The US military is testing stratospheric balloons that ride the wind so they never have to come down
A sensor that can spot the wind direction from miles away will let DARPA’s surveillance balloons hover at the very edge of space in one spot indefinitely.
November 14, 2018
https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/11/14/139092/darpa-is-testing-stratospheric-balloons-that-ride-the-wind-so-they-never-have-to-come-down/
On what it may have been doing:
https://noqreport.com/2023/02/04/chinese-spy-balloons-potential-purposes-for-the-high-altitude-invasion/
Lidar Observation From A Balloon Platform
The Chinese have been messing with lidar technology a lot lately. Lidar uses pulsed lasers to measure small variations in terrain to uncover hidden shapes and structures. It also has a knack for cutting through forest canopy and other obstructions. The problem with lidar is that the platforms commonly used to carry the apparatus are faster moving and only capture a snapshot in time. Also, it cannot see through thick clouds, dust, rain, snow or fog.
NASA and DARPA have both been testing lidar from balloons as a means to keep the lasers in the sky longer above a specific area. The Chinese balloon also looks somewhat similar to the equipment used on European lidar balloon experiments.
A lidar based spy balloon would explain Chinese interest in Eastern Montana, where there are numerous known nuclear missile silos as well as suspected hidden silos. The Chinese balloon did in fact come near at least one known nuclear missile base near Billings. Lidar could be exploited to find hidden bases in the region.
It also, from a balloon path diagram I saw, came close to our newish and growing ABM site in Alaska intended to stop EMP attacks by ICBMs which, far more than ICBM silos that have existed for many decades, the Chinese would be greatly interested in. Lidar is good for detecting hidden buried structures due to minute ground level variations over them.
Treason From Within By Former SECDEF James Mattis, And DoD In Not Disclosing Chinese Spy Balloons To Former President Trump!!!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/treason-rep-waltz-says-dod-told-china-spy-balloons-crossed-us-trump-years-gen-mattis-not-tell-trump-thought/
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