I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

No. I did not take the shot.
First. As someone who has worked in healthcare since 1974, I have a long standing rule regarding all things medical. No rookies and no guinea pigs. When the shots first came out there isn’t a chance in hell that I would be the one to go first. I like to see how well something does on real patients in the real world. I have been studying clinical trials for years and have seen first hand how unreliable so-called “evidence medicine” can be. Interventions are always tested on well selected ideal candidates designed for optimal outcomes. In the real world a whole host of other factors come into play that aren’t accounted for. It was a forgone conclusion I would take a wait and see attitude toward a new technology brought to market at “warp speed”.
Second. I have been distrustful of the CDC, NIH and Fauci since AIDS. Prior to Aids I was a big fan of the CDC and even aspired to work there. As a long time subscriber to the MMWR, I was watching my beloved agency become more and more political and unscientific. When the vaccine autism link began to circulate I was never satisfied with their answers and their studies were a joke to me. The straw that drew me to the dark side was in 1994 when they wanted to give my 5lb 3 oz 24hr old infant a Hep B shot. Seriously? She was at zero risk for Hepatitis B and they could offer me no evidence that it was even effective when given that early in life. What’s worse is the nurses that treated me like a child abuser for refusing. Next was the flu shot which was being relentlessly forced upon us despite the fact of it’s dismal efficacy record. Gardisal was the next questionable one. I saw no benefit and knew 3 girls who developed epilepsy post vax. I am not anti-vax – I’m a big fan of tetanus and meningitis for instance. I am against some vaccines and in a few cases (like HepB) scheduled timing of them. At this point in time I have seen no compelling evidence to be in favor of the Covid vax. It’s benefits are marginal at best and it’s harms have an enormous negative safety signal.
Third. From early on I had my ear to the ground on the treatment arm of covid. I was absolutely sickened by the unmistakable global suppression of any and all efforts to effectively treat this disease. It never made sense unless you accept the idea that “they” (whoever they are) would do anything to stop anyone from treating covid and there were no non-malevalent reasons. It’s bone chilling. This acceptance led me to the only conclusion I could. Follow the advice of those who are being silenced. So despite being high risk (O2 dependent end stage COPD) I rejected the shot and armed myself with Vit D, C, quercetin, zinc, elderberry, melatonin. I used xlear nasal spray and gargled after being around other people. I nailed a stash of HCQ, ivermectin, Zpak, nitizoxanide, and prednisone. I have extra O2 and an oximeter. I have yet to even get a mild cold and I never wear a mask, never have. If I do, I will commense self treatment immediately.
No I haven’t lost any friends or family. I have always been a skeptical contrarian and my friends and family expect no less from me. I do not try to impose my views on others but will give honest answers when asked for them. We love and respect each other too much to let opinions get between us. Most of us love a good debate, those that don’t stick to the weather and other non-contentious subjects.
I did not take the jab and encouraged all of my family not to get it. Most didn’t get it.
I am a Christian and rely on spiritual discernment, which told me not to trust the fake “science” or those pushing the vaccine. Additionally, my father, who passed away before COVID-19 emerged, had a PhD and worked as a research scientist for a pharmaceutical company researching human vaccines/infectious disease. I know that he would have disagreed with everything forced on us from masks to shutdowns to experimental vaccines as the directives did not line up with what I heard from him while growing up.
I did a lot of online research through trusted sites including CTH. Additionally, I was very wary of those pushing the experimental vaccines through mandates. I would not trust those people to fix my car or to invest my money. Why would I trust them with my health.
The censorship silencing those who were opposed to the vaccines also gave me great pause.
The forced vaccine movement was designed to further kick open the door of acquiescence to government control over people in our formerly free country.
Thank you, Sundance, for blessing and protecting us through your platform of reason and information.
LET’S START ONE
I am waiting for the class action law suits for the N95…I have a permanent red mark on my nose.
But yes, that needs to happen.
Sundance asks a difficult question because to answer it, you have to cast yourself back in time to the start of this madness without all the subsequent information that has come to light. For me, it was a combination of:
1. Those early graphs that showed doom and gloom by EVERY news outlet – further simple research showed them to be deeply flawed.
2. Chance of dying was always reported to be very low which should have been highlighted, but was buried instead. The complete lack of deaths from seasonal flu reported by the CDC was obvious data manipulation.
3. No recognition of natural immunity from prior infection or use of readily available existing medications.
4. The more I read about the so called vaccines it really was potentially altering your DNA. So, in the end – my DNA, my body, my choice. Get back to Life.
Initially, I blew it off as seasonal flu. Then under peer pressure about the long term ramifications, I started thinking more about all the supposed deaths and other really bad things that were being reported to happen when you got COVID. I looked for the source data my friends were using to support their claims of long term impacts to lungs. The only reference I could find was a study out of England where really old and sick people with prior lung damage who died when exposed to COVID may have had more lung damage. Maybe there is something to this? Not really. It was too small & too sick of a reference group to worry about. I followed what alternate news I could find and learned about pandemic measurement tools like Rt, excess deaths, & mortality comparisons. This country surging, that country surging. The news seemed awful, but was shown to be untrue quickly enough that I stopped listening. The overall early reported mortality rates were always very low. Higher chance of dying from lightening so what’s all the fuss? The reports of dead bodies piling up and being stored in offsite refrigeration sounded fishy. Then when the media – in sync – tried to pass video of a rural hospital in France as a major US hospital center I lost any remaining confidence of accurate reporting. So I stated just looking at data.
The various COVID trackers by country and across the globe were very enlightening. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Was this real? All these cases & death? It’s everywhere and it appeared unstoppable as reported by John Burn-Murdoch to Johns Hopkins. I turned to death numbers to see the carnage. What did not make sense to me were the historical deaths versus what we were currently going through. I like to look local first for understanding & then apply to new situations. We all know our local and state situations better than a state on the other coastline. So, I looked to death in Alaska. Through all this time the numbers could never support the hysteria. Our ongoing deaths were in the noise. More people were not dying. Cases yes, but not deaths. Alaska COVID models were all showing exponential growth that never materialized.
Much of the initial hysteria and “2 weeks to stop the spread” were driven by the graphs that all of a sudden appeared as props in ALL media and government talking heads. Did not matter if we were all the way up in Alaska, the government speakers were showing the same graphs generated by the Neil Ferguson models at Imperial College in London. “Your chance of dying was SO high and the hospitals would be over run, we just had to shut down.” I’m a scientist and used statistics in a former life to support major investment decisions to spend millions on high risk ventures. Being retired I have some free time and looked into the meta data behind the Imperial College predictions that were readily available at the time. It was junk science at its best. A few assumptions applied equally to all states & countries and projections with no control and WOW – we can project a BIG Problem. None of the projections for bed space used the available data about Alaska hospitals. Combined with the prevalence of these same graphs everywhere, my BS detector was on high alert. From this point I was very suspicious and kept looking to find real data behind any new information.
I heard Judy Mikovitz describe C19 as SARSCOV2 and how the whole scenario was going to play out with a all the attention focused on a vaccine, being the end all be all!! What I heard made so much sense, then redefined “vaccine.”
I and spouse did not get the jab.
Early in the hysteria, I read “Plague of Corruption” by Dr Judy Mikovitz and at that time the testing for Covid was off the chart. Dr Mikovitz explained about PCR tests, virus isolation, etc. and I knew something was terribly wrong.
Went looking for another Primary Care doc and he was incredulous that I refused the jab, essentially calling me an idiot.
Asking me why. I mentioned I had reas and followed Dr McCollough and others and he said he never heard of them. I promptly left his office. Finally found a local Dr Littell. All is good.
We are still upset being treated as second class citizens for so long, no travel, etc.
i have to also mention that as a kid, terms like autism, attention deficit etc, we’re unheard of.
I recently read Robert Kennedy’s book on Fauchi, cannot at all understand how this monster did the same Covid crap time and time again and was never called out by “Legacy Media”.
Some people need to hang.
ps: I do not fault President Trump for this.
I was willing to give President Trump “Two weeks to Stop the Spread”. But not a day more.
Then spent two years learning more about VAXX than I ever wanted to know. It’s still amazing to think how these Bio-Medical Bond Villains hijacked the nation. The good news is they planned to have us all in the Camps by now and failed.
They’re going down. Hard.
This is exactly how I felt. Two weeks was all I was in for. As for the jab no way after they made no attempt to even treat people who were sick.
Christmas season 2020, I had the Family Karaoke Christmas Party for 30+ people, ages from 2 – 65. Super fun time singing mostly Christian Christmas songs. 🙂
The Christmas Party turned out to be a super spreader. I think almost every adult got sick. I don’t believe any children did though. I prayed to God that no one would die. A few people took the test and it came back positive for COVID. Did we all get it? Who knows?
Everyone lived. Most were extremely mild cases like a cold or flu. For me it was just extremely tired for two days. Two people lost their sense of smell for almost a year.
We all praised God we had become sick, because it opened our eyes to a Government forcing a jab on simply everyone. Never asking if they had already been sick with COVID. I am no math wizard, but 99.99% are pretty high odds that you will live thru COVID. Only one out of the 30 plus people (job) took the jab.
Please parents, STOP giving the jab to your children. God gave us these precious gifts to love, not to harm. Take your blinders off please.
My husband and I are totally anti-vaxxers now. 🙂
I believe your Christmas party was a blessing in disguise. Your 30+ attendees got the best “vaccine” available: natural God-given immunity.
Exactly
It was when immunity from any liability was given to the pharmaceutical companies that my radar was pricked.
1 – Did I take the ‘vax’? No because this whole thing seemed fishy from the beginning and too many things only reiterated that. I also never felt ‘inspired’ to go that route. I also considered the survival rate which made the ‘vax’ campaign look even more ridiculous.
2 – How do I feel about that decision in hindsight? Great and validated.
3 – Relationships? A couple family members tried to bully someone close to me to get the shot and as far as I know, they’ve never apologized or acknowledged they were wrong to act that way because of their own fear. To them, the relationship hasn’t changed but I’ve lost respect for them and hope they see there was no point to the ‘vax’ after all so will refrain from butting in again in the future.
I have also lost most all respect for certain family members and former friends .
You may judge me however you see fit, but I do not care about an apology.
I do not care to see those people again, we’re done.
I was fired from NYS CPS for refusing to inject an experimental drug into my arteries.
And thank God, you’re here to tell about it.
Very wise of you, but I’m so sorry you had to pay that price.
You stood for truth, and that price is often very high.
I disagree. Trump obviously hated Fauci and company. He *never* mandated the jab on anyone, and that’s a fact. He stood up for those that didn’t want it, and also advocated for ivermectin and other therapies , monoclonal antibodies et al.
He’s not the bad guy in this scenario.
“He’s not the bad guy in this scenario.” He is the guy who went around long standing safe medical practices and funded big pharma to bring it to market. “and that’s a fact.”
So President Trump should have gave a press conference, and instead of saying he was doing everything humanly possible to get a vaccine as fast as possible, should have announced that no, sorry, you folks aren’t getting a vaccine?
I can only imagine the riots and violence after that.
Nonsense
It was a no win situation for Trump either way.
Correct. A situation deliberately engineered by China and the Deep State to drive Trump out of office. Imho.
The last desperate move of someone that’s losing a debate ….. a grammar attack. Lol.
Anti-Trumps are all the same.
Trump is responsible for everything.
He’s the FDA, the NIH, all of medicine…
You can be skeptical of the vax without going directly to “SO WE CAN’T VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO RECOMMENDED IT”
Trump is most certainly on the “bad” side of the ledger here. He violated one of his core principles and did not use the phrase that made him famous when he figured out Fauci was crooked. And still, to this day, sells Warp Speed as one of his greatest accomplishments.
His greatest accomplishment is he kept that evil wretch out of the White House.
Question? Did you believe Trump when he said the Democrats were using Covid-19 to steal the 2020 Election? What percentage of US voters believed Trump? Would you have believed Trump if he had told the public in 2020 that the virus was the result of GOF funded by the DOD and Fauci? Would you have believed Trump if he told you in 2020 that the Vaccine was also a bioweapon? If you were Trump’s attorney, would you have advised Trump to make it all public in 2021/22? Think again before you make assumptions about Trump.
Trump is neither evil nor the lesser of two evils.
You’ve been played if you believe that, or perhaps are just a Democrat troll.
If you think DJT is controlled opposition, wow. So let me guess …. you’re a DeSantis/Jeb supporter?
It’s “then by all means vote for him”, not “than”. Illiterate. Just remember, you started the grammar attacks.
Trump did 10000% more good things than any other politician in my lifetime.
It’s dangerous to hold the only president who has had to fight globalist/left– virtually alone– to ridiculous standards.
Instead of fighting real evil, you’re looking for flaws in the best we have.
Who are you voting for in 2024…assuming that there’s anyone of sufficient perfection?
And that election fraud–the TRUE evil–allows us to have a chance of selecting a president
Hi Sundance, this is slightly off point and I have been meaning to tell you, I know a fair number of people who have never heard of TCH, know much of what we know, and some are very well informed. This includes skepticism on the vaccine.
I am not switching or adding their information sources and they are not adding you. However, this indicates to me the pool of “treepers” is somewhat deeper than we may realize.
About 40 years ago I took a flue shot. It went straight to my testicles and I have never had such pain in my life. I vowed then I would never take another shot. When the Covid non vaccine first came out their were many red flags that went up that simply reinforced my previous vow.
To speed the development they by-passed animal trials which weren’t going so well because the animals were dying.
So now humans are the Guinea pigs.
It’s very hard for me to believe that the human race has been so bummed down to no longer use basic logic.
And then there is the mask mandates and now seeing people still wearing them? I liked the metaphor I read 3 years ago from a professor that said wearing a mask to keep viruses out is like putting a chain link fence around your yard to keep mosquitos out. The holes in the mask are way too large to stop a virus.
In one recent report they said 8 animals did very well.
They never mentioned how many animals they started with.
The Movie – The Constant Gardener – which one several academy awards – was based on the TRUE story of a Pharma company hiding their DEAD patients who died during the drug trial, and just not including them in the statistics.
I believe the reporter involved was murdered.
Quote – “arms dealers and drug companies, they’re all the same.” – John Le’Carre
No judgement…
the best people to get the word out are those who’ve received the shot but subsequently came to the conclusion it was a mistake…
trying to talk to a vaccinated individual … while being a unvaccinated individual is more times then not .. it seems… going to lead to the vaccinated to throw a wall up to hearing the truths we ve discovered thru research readily available and growing rapidly.
it’s a real issue that stifles simple information sharing and civil discourse …
i am slowly getting family members , who have watched us unvaccinated get thru the ‘covid timeframe’ with no issues and are now asking what supplements were taking etc … (FLCCC)
no judgement … to those of you who chose to get the shot… the pressure on all of us was tremendous … easy to say well you should have done more research etc … but when your job is on the line .. your immune compromised etc etc .. maybe your young raising kids and have limited time to research .. no judgement can’t be said enough…
Thank you for your kind words. Really weary of the often smug “purebloods” calling me an “idiot” for getting the shots. I posted elsewhere the why of it all, so won’t repeat here.
The vaccinated may be the best spokespeople for NO mRNA technology, ever again, including in our food. I believe the latter is our next battle.
Mark Twain had a saying about it being easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Once you get the shot, there is no going back. Human nature takes over and they will defend their reason for taking the shot, sometimes to their own demise.
Some of those that took the shot wanted us dead. I didn’t and I pray they don’t die.
Destruction of the family, is Satan’s goal.
Thank you for starting this conversation, Sundance–or more accurately, for giving us a place to talk about it. It seems we’ve been discussing our reasons here, there, and everywhere for going on two years now.
I did not get the jab for many reasons. For one, I haven’t trusted government in a long, long time, nor do I trust doctors and the methods of western medicine, which tend to treat the symptoms rather than the underlying issues.
And then the whole push to take the jab just seemed bizarre to me. It made absolutely NO sense. Of course, I’m always suspicious of hurried, heavy-handed, fearful, shaming, controlling, manipulating attempts to get me to do anything, and the jab push seemed like just such an attempt, but on a massive scale.
Another thing that didn’t make sense was that proven treatments that have been around for years were banned, while this new treatment, which has not been properly vetted, was pushed to the max. That makes me HIGHLY suspicious.
And lastly, I REFUSE to live life hiding from people because they might make me sick or because I might die. My Lord and Savior knows how to guide me and keep me, and I trust Him to walk with me through every trial and tribulation until He calls me home!
This reminds me …that haven’t they been reporting for years the various efficacy rates of flu shots?
30%, 25% – very low efficacy rates.
That means that they weren’t the risk.
Not an impressive track record.
I am a clinical biochemist. Virtually nothing about the gene serums made sense to me from the start of the Covid fiasco. Our biology is not a binary corral where we can pick out a yes/no therapeutic response mechanism. Misdirected, misinterpreted computational gene biology is at the heart of this hubris and with 450 new gene serums, just for humans, now clogging the drug pipeline, the momentum is in place to undo millions of years of evolution (God could have set that in motion, fyi) in a generation. The depopulation waves will affect us all, jab or not. That is “the science.”
I see it this way Judge. To science it’s a singular event, to religion it’s known as a miracle. The time spent arguing the difference could be much better spent.
To ‘science’, evolution would be a miracle because living things do not come from dead dirt and dirty water.
That is a very chilling future.
God didn’t use evolution and there is none, as it is pushed.
Here’s one reason why,
There was no death before sin.
Evolution has billions, trillions of deaths just to get out of the water.
If evolution were true, then God is a liar, or non existent.
What evolution is is a satanic doctrine to debase humanity.
Let’s not forget that according to the religion of
evolution, blacks are 2 or 3 rings down the development
ladder and as such, are not even genuine human beings.
Reasons I refused the shot(s).
1. It was developed too fast. I don’t trust all the bugs to be worked out like that.
2. The democrats made it political. They verified my absolute lack of trust in them by silencing anyone who disagreed with them.
3. The democrats kept changing the narrative. They simply do what they always do when they cannot get what they want and changed the definition of “vaccinated”, as the CDC admitted to one another in a series of emails that got FOIA’d. They admitted to one another in the emails that people were using the CDC’s OWN DEFINITION OF VACCINE to prove it was, in fact, NOT a vaccine.
The next day, the CDC changed that definition of vaccine to literally fit their narrative.
4. My precious Dad died five years ago, a lung transplant patient who made it ten years after the transplant.
My family knew from experience and many doctor comments that masks don’t stop viruses.
PS: The mask boxes SAID they didn’t stop viruses.
You could look up the size of the virus. You could look up the size of what the masks would block.
It was like trying to stop a mosquito from flying through a cattle fence…….and still those forcing the vaccine ABSOLUTELY LIED ABOUT IT.
5. The claims made by the government, the vaccine companies, and media about NOT getting the virus after the vaccine and boosters kept changing as they kept being proven wrong by reality. And Biden, and fellow democrats and those producing vaccines continued the lie.
6. I have a boatload of other reasons, but this jumps out at me.
I like my doctor. He’s a competent doctor, and a bodybuilder, who actually practices what he preaches. He recommended it a year ago. I declined. He did not push, he did show me CDC data. I respectfully declined and he respected the decision.
I got COVID a bit before Christmas. Saw him for a follow up a few days ago, still have some issues, but they are clearing up.
I asked if he had gotten COVID yet.
Yes, two weeks after his THIRD booster when his antibodies were supposed to be at the peak!
Right before he walked out at the end of the visit, he said “I now have the same trust issues you do. We were sold a bunch of lies”.
7. When the lies are provable, and everyone sees them, and democrats attempt to control the conversation by paying money to media companies to say nothing negative about the shots, when they try to control social media so people cannot even have debate……..
Yeah, it *DESTROYS* trust!
And it is NOT coming back.
WOW!! I love that he admitted it.
As a licensed DDS of 43+ years who was trained and has acquired knowledge/use of pharmaceuticals and VAST knowledge of EFFECTIVE infection control…….well, NO. Masking of UNTRAINED individuals is theater, BAD theater. Even TRAINED professionals are consistently in violation of their training. I know. I was an infection control officer for a nationally certifying, later nationally certified California hospital for 6 years. As for the ‘vaccines’, when the definition of ‘vaccine’ needed to be changed to accommodate these new injectables, well that should have been to tip off that something was not right. As for me, the only vaccine I have utilized as an adult was the Hep B one. As a dentist working in a corrections setting, Hep B was a concern for at the time (1992), in California a dentist who became a carrier of Hep B after infection, their career was done. I would NEVER RX a pharmaceutical that hadn’t gone thru rigorous NORMAL testing. ESPECIALLY one that was new for human usage and had failed animal testing………..
Conmen leak ‘tells.’
Here’s is my story. If you remember, in Dec of 2019 Pelosi had just about got the votes to impeach Trump. She and the leftist media had been pushing this for months … gonna impeach Trump by Xmas!!! And then it all stopped. Completely stopped for like 2 months and I kept thinking … WTF ???? So I knew something was up. So then in Feb 2020, they announced Covid19 in China. And all I could think of was “so that is what they spent the last 2 months doing, cooking up some way they could blame a pandemic on Trump” because they knew even if they impeached Trump it wouldn’t get him out of office or prevent him from running again.
So when Trump tried to ban flights coming from China (to prevent the spread) and every democrat/leftist went ape-shit, I knew that’s what it was all about. Ditto for the controversy over HCQ … Trump recommended it so every liberal and their media mouthpieces were against it. Because as we were to find out, if there was an actual treatment for Covid that worked … there would be no “emergency use authorization” that opened the door to leftists shoving the vaccine down people’s throats.
Anyway, by the time the vaccine mandates started coming down, I knew the whole thing was a manufactured crisis and that the vax was probably worse than the disease and there wasn’t a chance in hell that I’d ever take it. Never did and convinced the wife to do the same. Thankfully, we got to work from home and didn’t face the choice many had to face: “take the vax or lose your job”.
I commented earlier about critical thinking. This was my revelation as well. Protected myself for 2 years….got it eventually. It was a mild variant. Used zelenko protocol before without the ivm. I’m ok and was 1000% right to trust my gut and most
Of my Immediate fam listened too
Lost my job because of my (and my husband’s) stance but Thank the Lord, we could afford my going into early retirement.
I am not vaccinated for “WuFlu” and I rejected the vaccine as soon as I saw that legitimate treatments were being suppressed.
I believe(d) it part of a larger deception, a belief that has been vindicated by:
1) A lack of travel shutdown that would have been consistent with a true pandemic,
2) The many instances of masks on when the cameras were rolling, but off in more private settings – indicating no true fear by the propagandists,
3) Suppression and maligning of potential treatments in favor of a questionable vaccine – one would think that in a true pandemic, ANY possible treatment is a good thing,
4) The fact that the pharmaceutical companies were absolved of liability for vaccine issues,
5) Health issues related to the vaccine, most notably myocarditis and/or dying ‘suddenly’,
6) I am old with many health issues and a compromised immune system, and contracted the dreaded Chinese coronavirus but was back on my feet in 4 days with no known lasting effects (thank you hydroxochloroquine!),
7) We were told that get-togethers were forbidden, while our domestic political and media enemies continued to party unabated,
8) It was OK to riot, but no other gatherings were safe.
There are other things that reinforce my belief that the Wuhan coronavirus was an engineered scare tactic, but you get the idea.
So much obvious treachery, I am ashamed of my fellow man for falling for it to this extent, and still feel animosity for those so stupid that they are STILL wearing masks alone in their own cars.
Now, they ask for “amnesty” for pushing all this upon us, when our proper response should actually be a tribunal and execution.
I am sometimes a slow learner, but I HAVE learned that anything being pushed by mainstream media is well worth avoiding.
The political value of this hoax has been tremendous and a huge boost for our anti-American enemies, foreign and domestic.
Boiled down simply:
1. Zero evidence that it worked.
2. Zero evidence that it was safe.
Aye! Neither safe or effective!
The same idiots who told us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction,,,
The same idiots who told us the Iraqis would greet American troops with open arms…
The same idiots who told us if you like your doctor, you can keep you doctor ….
The same idiots who told us BREXIT would cause a global depression….
The same idiots who told us Trump would never be president…..
The same idiots who told us Trump would need a magic wand to improve the US economy….
The same idiots who told us Trump colluded width RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!
The same idiots who told us “15 days To Slow The Spread”….
Those same idiots began telling us “Quick! Take this experimental mRNA shot to protect yourself from a virus with about the same mortality rate as the regular flu!”
Every “Nurse Ratchett” in America (they gravitate towards HR Departments) was empowered by deep state media to ostracize, sabotage, and punish “narrative resistance”.
My contrarian personality, Sundance, and Patriots.win saved me. I remain a pureblood.
I refused the jab, even though I was pressured at work. And the main reason was due to the awesome research I was reading on this site, Gateway Pundit and American Thinker.
It was an easy call not to: I’m athletic and healthy; I take no prescription medications; I do not get flu, colds or other airborne viruses; the only time I’ve been sick in 15 + years was the 1 time I got an annual flu vaccine – sick for a week; the inoculations we all unproven and came with zero disclosures of side effects; they were being given to people without anyone knowing the patient’s actual health history.
It was a no brainer. We were lucky: my husband and I agreed about it and agreed that if required he would quit his job. He is a very highly placed and valuable employee and they found it possible to grant his waiver request. Others not so lucky, including our Marine son, who loves his job and took it. We pray he’s not one of the “suddenly stricken without explanation” among the healthy, very active young men.
“It just didn’t make sense.” -Sundance
“If it doesn’t make sense, IT’S NOT TRUE!” -Judge Judy
My wife and I are long time vaccine skeptics. We tuned into the Highwire news show with Del Bigtree in January of 2020. That was like having a front row seat to the lies and deceit being exposed in real time. By the end of March 2020 a doctor in France was reporting good success in treating the Wuhan strain with hydroxychloroquine. The early reports of the overall low fatality rate per infection and off the shelf treatment modalities were helpful in ignoring the fear fest being presented daily through the MSM. Since the Federal Government of the United States has become the central locus of evil in our world today, it was easy to totally disregard every last pronouncement from the cadre of liars, thieves and psychopaths that currently pass for governing authorities. I personally would not voluntarily follow any directive of the USG.
I was 73 when COVID hit, in good health, a little overweight. Retired, reclusive, but with a hard sciences major in college. Not antivax by any means. Did some study work for the Nat’l Science Foundation in college, learned the Scientific Method, hands on.
I saw Dr. Zelenko on TV, learned about HCQ, did research, met w/my doctor, agreed on a course of action should I get sick. Never wore a mask, stayed home, shopped for food late at night when stored were empty, and read…Lots of clinical trials.
Then I discovered Drs. Paul Marik & Pierre Kory. Then I noticed that the Scientific Method was NOT being used, and knew something was wrong.
Then my usually great doc started refusing to treat COVID, abandoned her patients, and that’s when I knew that something was VERY wrong. My family pharmacist & friend told me of all the pressure he was under.
So…I made plans to move to Mexico and stay there until it all blew over, if it got weirder. And vowed to never take the vax. Or any future vax. My friends also didn’t get vaxxed, and my neighbors got vaxxed, but most got it for work, and being retired, I escaped that.
I also brought a bunch of IVM back to FL from MX, and got to save a few people’s lives with it.
Most of my neighbors don’t understand the gov’ts genocidal impulse as expressed through the vax coercion. The world is full of dumbasses.
My biggest worry is about the digital ID/social credit objective the WEF monsters want to implement.
Many non compliant will literally be branded as outlaws and the Nazi template will again be reactivated. In all it’s phases.
Each country will have their own methodology, but I’m sure that Canada, Australia and New Zealand will be the most eager and aggressive. Large land masses, smallish populations, mostly brainwashed and happy to ‘go along to get along’ whatever the dictates are. And hardly any political opposition that can effectively threaten to fight the swamp.
I can see ultimatums not far down the road about enforced jabs or being erased from society. And China already has been providing the example.
In the mid-spring of 2021, was anyone curious enough to check out how the vaxx worked? I was.
What would have been the best sources of info to that effect? Answer: the CDC.
So, I logged into the CDC’s website and searched for a video. And I found it.
This is what I viewed on the CDC’s short computer-generated video: I saw a syringe needle penetrate the skin of an upper arm. Then, on the inner muscle, a spike protein pops up. Some five seconds later, another spike protein pops up next to it, and five seconds later, another spike protein, and on and on it went every five seconds or so along the upper arm. This lasted some 35 seconds, more or less. There were at least six spike proteins. The video ended.
I stared at that video with so many questions in mind. What happens to all these spike proteins? And for how long and where else will they pop up in our system, one next to the other? It was scary. I viewed that video every day to ensure I was seeing it correctly.
On the seventh day, I logged in, I went straight to the video. SURPRISE! No video. I searched and searched, no video. The CDC deleted its own video.
OF NOTE, when the said vaccine became available, I had no intention of being a customer. I had so much information that interpreted it as possibly harmful. But that CDC now-deleted video solidified my position. I was willing to go to jail for jab refusal because of that video. END.
When President Trump announced Project Warp Speed, I thought it was great. These vaccines would allow the elderly and immuno-compromised to be protected and most importantly, it would allow us to go on with our lives as normal. Despite thinking that, I had no plans to get the vaccine myself. I figured I was generally healthy, with a strong immune system and would take my chances with the virus. Plus, I’m well aware of all the medicines that hit the market with big fan fare, only to be followed by attorney advertisements of “if you took this drug, you might be entitled to compensation.” A wait and see approach seemed prudent.
What made me realize that things might not be what they seem was what they did to hydroxychloroquine and Trump told people to drink bleach, bit. Here we’re being told we have this scary novel virus with no known treatment that is going to kill millions of people, and yet these ‘experts” are doing everything in their power to keep an inexpensive and safe possible treatment from the public. What sense does that make? It seemed like they didn’t want to treat. They wanted higher death tolls.
I’ve been in sales much of my life and know a hard sell when I see one. I was initially a “no” on the vax out of caution and experience, but once it was mandated and I saw the lengths to which they would go to inject absolutely everyone, regardless of natural immunity, or of pre-existing medical conditions which might contraindicate the new “vaccine’, when they insisted pregnant women must be vaccinated when I know just how very careful I was not to ingest anything that might harm my developing baby during pregnancy (and I knew what thalidomide was), it was obvious that something very nefarious and very wrong was going on. At this point, the only way they would get me vaccinated was to hold me down and force-inject me. I wasn’t giving an inch. Most of my immediate family were on the same page, except for my son. He got J&J shot after I had begged him not to. I wouldn’t let up though. He barely spoke to me for months because I became a one-topic nudge, but I was terrified of what these jabs would do. The relentless way they went after people clearly indicated it was nothing good. Anyway, my son finally did hear me and thankfully shows no sign of having been adversely effected by the jab.
I didn’t take the poison. Yes, I knew it was poison instinctively. I kept hearing and seeing the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of OZ. You know, that scene by the crystal ball….”poppies….poppies….poppies….”
I knew the directive was coming from evil people and that it was likely a money laundering operation too. I don’t take flu shots either. (I haven’t ever had the flu anyway.)
So, my response is simple. Just stay close to the Light of Truth. It will always yield basic common sense knowledge for you act accordingly and be safe.
Absolutely right on both points.
2. Bill Gates can be seen in a video from 2017 stating that vaccines is the way to stop the population explosion.
That did it for me.
We started with the vaccine but have stopped short of boosting.
I and my wife are in our late 60s with some risk factors. We have three teens or younger children. The two teenagers took the 2-shot protocol but have not been boosted. The 4-yo was too young to get the shot at first and by now the medical advice is contraindicating such treatments.
I was a lawyer. My experience is that one can get any professional opinion that fits your fancy. So I choose pr — here doctors — whose advice I trust. The early debate over Covid and treatments was entertaining but I stuck to my advisors. Even that was split, with my pulmonologist generally negative but my primary an enthusiastic advocate. That now has changed, with even the kids’ pediatrician coming out against the vaccine. Their point is that children and young adults are not at risk, that the vaccine doesn’t stop disease transmission or contraction, and that its side effects are unknown. So medical knowledge and advice has changed for me.
I am satisfied with my past choices and with my present stance.
I didn’t take the shot and didn’t get it for my 17YO son, our last kid at home. My husband also chose not to get it.
We had the ‘vid in November 2020 and our son spent the last half of February 2021 in the hospital when he was found to have bilateral pulmonary embolisms after a midnight trip to the ER because his chest hurt and he couldn’t breathe. His doctors told us they thought the embolisms were a result of his covid infection three months earlier, combined with a genetic predisposition to clot more easily than average. My husband carries this same genetic clotting mutation (Factor V Leiden), so when we looked at the fact that we already carried covid antibodies as a result of prior infection, combined with two of us having a higher likelihood of clotting, we just decided we’d trust our natural immunity.
I was diagnosed with breast cancer in April 2021 and in initial discussions with my doctors, they told me they wanted me to get the vaccine before I had surgery. I told them politely that I’d been previously infected and did not intend to get vaccinated and, by the time surgery came around in December, nobody had mentioned it again so I didn’t even think about it.
We got the ‘rona again this past spring (we assume, one of my husband’s co-workers tested positive after a trip they went on together). It was, again, like having a cold. Fluids & rest.
33 years in Pharma. Early retired in 2022 when big Pharma mandated the vax to stay employed or give my medical or religious reason not too which required staying masked.
Drug approvals take years of studies and rigorous FDA review. This shot did not undergo any of these steps. I’ve seen great antibiotics and pain medications pulled from the market with MUCH less side effects and deaths but this shot is still allowed by our government. Unvaxed and never got C19.
It’s a shamdemic. Politically driven and we are the control group for a mass population study that continues to kill and disable those who succumbed to the pressure and fear. God bless us all!
Got the shots and one booster ONLY because I needed to travel for my #50 Anniversary. The first and second shot gave me such chills I thought I had malaria. The booster also. NEVER would have gotten anything even though I am 80 since general health has been good. Govt. close down of travel by plane was the kicker since Europe is where we normally travel for celebrations. During covid we drove thousands of miles on road trips to the mid west and kept active. The knee jerk reaction to shut down access to travel was (is) disgusting and especially so when on realizes that many folk who do not follow the rules were just let into the country sick or at least not tested. Color me suspicious when I hear anything from the CDC or a govt. spokesperson. By the way…tested positive for covid while in Europe but my wife and I had ZERO symptoms and spent the extra 10 days require by Switzerland and American Airlines enjoying Geneva. Costly? Yes. But you do what you can when forced to comply. Fortunately we had the time and money to afford the stayover. My neighbors were mixed on shots and some were pyscho about it but we still got together for holiday dinners and drinks. No one got sick.
When I was 19-20, I worked scheduling patient appointments for an Ear, Nose and Throat Clinic. I was also the receptionist who gave people forms to fill out, and then would take that information and create charts. I would touch those papers after people had coughed and sneezed on them.
It was a group of 4 doctors, who saw patients every day, and did surgeries either before office hours or at lunch time.
After a few days of talking face to face with really sick people with colds and flus, I thought: “I’m going to get sick.”
And I did, and recovered. I looked at the doctors very differently after that.
Why did I get sick, but they weren’t constantly sick? Shouldn’t they have been? I thought so.
These doctors were seeing up to 100 patients a day – or more.
I would see the doctors in the exam rooms sitting knee to knee with the patients, looking closely up noses and ears.
None of them wore masks in the exam rooms – ever.
I said to one of the doctors: “Don’t you ever get sick?”
One of the doctors, in his late 40’s early 50’s, said: “Oh, we’re never sick.”
And he explained about the immune system as a learning system. Also, they washed their hands and didn’t touch their faces, but I didn’t see how that even mattered since patients had been coughing and sneezing in those rooms all day long.
Now I knew what kinds of lifestyles these men lived in California. They ate mostly healthy food, and spent time outdoors playing golf or tennis. One was a gardener.
I could never un-know that or un-learn that.
And that’s why I never took the jab.
PS..As a substitute teacher I subbed for many, many teachers out sick, and they had all taken the shot as it was mandatory.
It wasn’t mandatory for students. So subbing for a high school teacher I noticed that in 2 days only one student out of several hundred had been marked absent with the term COVID in caps. Turns out it was the teacher’s own teenage son.
I never got sick either from sitting at a desk of a teacher who was home sick with COVID.
I worked in Early Childhood Development for 7 years when I was in my 20’s. The first year I got the flu a lot. After that, I never got sick. This is how you build up immunities. I have not had the flu in years; everyone I know who gets the flu shot gets the flu.
As a middle school teacher for 40 years, I never had the flu or a cold. There were many times when there were so many students absent with the flu or some virus that I resorted to review lessons and not lessons of new learning. The Lord blessed me with a healthy body and planned my journey to be a school teacher.
They were able to Warp: Speed- it because they had been planning it for years. In fact, it would not surprise me if they built the Vaxx first and then built the Virus to sell it.
Fauci faked the Clinical Trials again, as he did with AIDS and other outbreaks. He destroyed and then disbanded the Control Groups, not just for speed but to ensure there was no standards to measure his Murder, Inc. mumbo-jumbo.
I did get the jab at the encouragement of my oncologist. I did not get a booster because I learned about other prevention and intervention approaches (Ivermectin among them) and the work of Dr. Paul Marik and Dr Pierre Kory at the FLCCC Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance.
I did not. I’ve spent decades in “scientific community” and simply put, if I can take your data and arrive at the same conclusion I’ll listen. When you will not allow access to your data, it’s not science.
I would never take anything produced at warp speed, using a novel technology, by a serial felon drug company, and urged on me by a billionaire megalomaniac whose chief goal is depopulation. And months before the juice was available a Nobel laureate, Luc Montagnier predicted that most who took it would be dead in 5 or 10 years, and Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, retired chairman of microbiology at the U. of Mainz, warned that , “If you take this shot you will go to your doom.”
I did not take the jab for a number of reasons. I began to distrust the medical community when I had my first son, 12 years ago. I was induced and almost forced to have a c section due to money being the bottom line. That led to a birthing center for me and researching vaccines, etc. I saw the corruption and how money again is the bottom line for vaccine companies with no liabilities. I also will never take or give my kids a vaccine made out of aborted fetus parts. Thanks to Dr Malone and Dr McCullough I saw the facade that the covid gene therapy was. All the data shows that it is not a vaccine but gene therapy. unfortunately so many don’t do their own research and believe that the medical community cannot be questioned. I am encouraged by this community of so many that think for themselves.
I was already a medical skeptic but having triplets 30 years ago made it much worse. I was incarcerated in the hospital for 5 weeks for preterm labor. I insisted I’d be healthier at home, which would help me keep them in longer. As it turned out–when I finally went into REAL labor, which the monitor didn’t measure differently than the fake kind, I told the doctor. He glanced at the machine and said it wasn’t true. By the time the nurse convinced him to check me, I was 9 cm dilated and the C-section had to be done so quickly it looked like a serial killing in the OR. Doctors were roaring around and cussing… husband didn’t make it for the birth … thank God the babies survived, but barely. Instinct and anecdotal information are always better than TheScience.
We did not get the vaccination.
It was too new, too novel and too uncertain in its possible side effects. So we chose to wait and see.
At the same time that real vaccine injuries appeared we learned of effective Covid treatments, HCQ, ivermectin, and monoclonal antibodies.
The risk/benefit ratio flipped. It was safer to have properly managed Covid [NOT the hospital] than to get vaccinated.
Nobody should get vaccinated or boosted for Covid.
The vaccine is not safe and it is not effective
Sundance wrote “I am hopeful a small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum”. Kinda like when a small corner of the internet broadcasted the truth about the uniparty, waved hello to the monster voters, and helped to “normalize” Trump. Hope springs eternal.
I am an RN with Critical Care background.
The first WA state case of the Chinese bio weapon SARS COV2 was at my former hospital in Everett WA. I followed every article written. I searched the internet for more information about the bio weapon, and what treatments were appearing to work.
In late February or March of 2020, I came across a Dr Vladimir Zelenko of upper state New York who published a YouTube video about his practice in caring for CV19 patients that was pretty impressive. He detailed the research he did to develop the early treatment, and his success with it.
I also watched Dr Trevor Bedford of the University of Washington’s IHME COMBINE the “Covid-Like Illnesses” with the “Influenza-Like Illnesses” data, and knew their model being presented to The Powers That Be making national public health decisions was skewed. With other crazy happenings—the lockdowns, the masks, hospitalizations of patients with diagnoses “with Covid” combined with “of Covid”, things got worse.
I didn’t take the shot; I advised my family not to take the shot, but one did. He won’t have any kind of discussion about it, not even a conversation about the efficacy of naturally acquired immunity. He believes in the jabs. It’s so sad.
My graduate stats prof drilled it into our heads that you always spell out all assumptions made to model the problem and then you spell it out again. As such when I saw UW’s IHME models they teed me off. They violated the basic principles of data handling
I have introducd software products with <9 months of specification, development, and testing. Most of the time it did not work out well. We then would introduce a patch (booster) only to make things worse. This was on an operating system we (thought we) understood.
Simple answer – I don’t trust the government. As soon as they gave the drug companies a free ride on the results, good or bad I was suspicious. I’m a healthy 66 year old. I work outside most of the time and rarely get sick. I thought the whole mask thing was a joke. The last vax I had was probably when I was in grade school. I trust the Lord will take me when it’s my time regardless of a jab of unknown properties.
i knew it was a hoax from day 1. So many clues. Living in NYC, I saw the Hasidic communities not wearing masks, not closing their schools, etc. I have a picture with my son during the height of the pandemic sitting next to two older Jewish ladies.
I also have a science background. The PCR to diagnose a virus was a big rip off. Asymptomatic.
I saw the city of NYC mobilize to shut down parks, etc while doing nothing for quality of life issues for decades. Letting the criminals out of prison. Closing the churches. The overly generous welfare benefits.
THE WHOLE DAMN THING WAS A DEMOCRAT’S WET DREAM!