I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

My husband and I did not get the shot … we believe in herd Immunity … never got the yearly flu shot … and knew the COVID19 shot was NOT a vaccination.
In 2017 fauciSTEIN “predicted” this administration will have to deal with a pandemic … in 2019 Bill & Melinda Gates hosted Event 201 – an “exercise” on how a COVID Pandemic might impact America … there are zero coincidences in politics.
The Louisiana Guv was/is a very involved RAT player … New Orleans was the 3rd Hot Spot for the COVID Panic Porn … the Guv refused to cancel Mardi Gras – immediately after – declared Mardi Gras to be a COVID “Super Spreader” … a Pandemic was officially declared and the entire country was shut down per fauci’s scienceFICTION.
Hundreds of Million$$$ of tax dollars were wasted turning and staffing the massive New Orleans Convention Center into a MASH-like Treatment Center … that remained nearly empty for close to a year – except for well paid medical personnel & staff.
President Trump was viciously ridiculed and mocked for recommending the safe, effective & CHEAP HCQ and Ivermectin … and of course we knew then and now proven – President Trump was right.
Everything said and done by fauci & scarf-lady was a lie … their scienceFICTION caused nearly a million deaths in the USA … just to destroy President Trump.
My question:
Considering the large number of mRNA sudden deaths, cancers, heart-conditions, miscarriages, birth defects, etc across all ages, ethnicities, professions & economic levels – including conservatives … why haven’t we seen the same % of sudden deaths to RATS and RINOS?
My suspicion:
unlike mRNA – saline & B12 injections are safe.
Never took the shot because, #1) learned in March 2020 about Event 201, so I knew it was being blown out of all proportion. #2) learned in April 2020 that the RT PCR test was worthless, and the number of cycles recommended were intended to exaggerate the “cases”. #3) learned about the problems Moderna had with animal trials prior to the plandemic. #4) have zero trust in any info that comes out of the government.
My wife and I did not get the Covid Shot, due in part to her insistence. She’s an RN who after 20+ years left healthcare just prior to Covid. Her reasons echo many of those you’ve read. There is/was NO long term safety analysis, and those bringing it to market will never be held liable for ill-effects.
Longer answer – our reasons were the following.
First, since Covid had been around for a year prior to the shot being available, the world had a pretty clear picture who was at health risk. Since I wasn’t elderly, nor had any on-going health concerns, it was clear my risks were quite low. Given Covid’s low infection fatality rate, and my low risks, I did a very simple risk/benefit analysis and determined that not taking the jab was the right decision for me.
When the mask mandates were being pushed, I consumed every factual (non-opinion) paper I could on the topic. There was never solid medical or scientific reason to push for everyone to wear masks, yet they did.
There exists a pattern, and once you see it, it’s impossible to ignore. When all voices in media and gov’t are chanting in unison, I become quite concerned (think Iraq war for example).
Every voice was telling us to wear masks and get the jab. Since they were faking mask data, my wife and I became very suspicious on the jab.
We’ve lost friends on the issue. We’ve neighbors who stopped talking to us. Slowly, some family members are slightly changing their minds
This system has proven to be totally untrustworthy. Their lack of honesty about covid’s origins and their level of demand were both huge red flags.
My philosophical presupposition & default position was one of extreme skepticism. I ALREADY assumed that if the system is saying it, the EXACT OPPOSITE is likely true.
Bottom line: TRUST was already destroyed.
Whereas a virus is something that can usually be seen under a microscope and scientifically discovered what could weaken the virus,
in late 2019 it was beginning to look political:
-the u.s. economy etc. was roaring good, an election year was forthcoming
-chinese wearing masks,
-chinese fumigating sidewalks etc.
-the decision to ban travel into the u.s. in Jan 2020 (which those of a different bent said it was xenophobic or something)
-the national decision to use 15 days to ‘slow the spread’, and close businesses, churches (but keep liquor stores, casinos, big businesses open (walmart etc.)) in mid March 2020
-the nancy miss message to celebrate china town in SF like nothing was going on,
-the NY miss decision to deny ventilators, a medical ship, and move elderly into infected care centers, and not use a military made impromptu additional hospital beds,
-the safe, arbitrary decision of ‘ 6 ft ‘ spacing
-the saying that masks do not help (when not enough are available), and then saying that masks do help after more masks are made available
-the 15 days got extended another 30 days to ‘slow the spread’…businesses, schools were being hurt (supposedly for the good of health, without proof. The virus was spreading ).
-having heard Zelensky talk about a tested protocol that worked in March or April 2020, and then seeing it get censored by media
-riots in mpls, portland etc. summer of 2020, but media avoid talking about unmasked protestors screaming in officers faces that just held their ground…and calling what was visually unpeaceful (fires, looting, crimes, overtaking of private properties etc. without arresting people, or if arrested, letting them go – to protest again). But the media would not clamor about the protestors, NOT wearing masks.
-Yet, if a person entered a Walmart without 6 ft spacing AND a mask…then that was a taboo, a big no no.
It was getting clearer that there was political science (called ‘science’),
overtaking medical science.
-in the summer of 2020, I asked 2 different doctors, at 2 different times (weeks, and miles apart) for advice as to what to do in case of getting sick. It was pretty much just, wait and see, and if sickness gets worse, then we will see what we can do (i.e. nothing proactive, except for mask, hand washing, distancing).
i.e. it sounded like not very sound advice (having previously heard Zalenko)
-I had one doctor offer up a $ 20 flu shot. I said, no, not at this time.
The doctor said ‘what are you afraid of?’ (does that sound like doctor advice, or fear mongering?)
I said, that I have had success of not getting the flu, for many years – without a flu shot.
The few times over decades that I have gotten the flu, It was not fun, but, I recovered.
So, I am just embracing the proven prior successes – again today. Thank you.
It was getting clearer that there was political science (called ‘science’),
overtaking medical science.
The challenge was to find some items that were not routinely available over the counter (quercetin, ivermectin) but, that (self doctoring, and pharmacy shopping) became part of the spare time pursuit in 2020, 2021 (under duress from the fear mongerers, but keeping cool so as to persevere through the adversity).
The CTH no doubt, was an integral part of the information gathering.
I wish more people were willing to catch on, early on. [ that propaganda media is a problem ]
It was sad to see people mesmerized with the media propaganda, fear mongering, repetitively – and thereby some feeling the need to rush to judgement as what to do. Not good.
[ with the apparent at the time, censorship of the correct things to do being censored,
of which 2 years later, twitter file disclosures are pointing to as factual, selective censuring. ]
Eventually, latter 2020 or so, a third party doctor – telemedicine, not local – was found and provided a subscription to use, such that medicine could be on hand, just in case. Thankfully so, because it took 2 to 4 months just to find a pharmacy that would fill a prescription
(wally greenie refused, it seems they felt it was their job to find out from patient as to why a medicine was prescribed and judge that decision.
I said, the doctor said so, not me.)
So it took months in 2020, finding a non-traditional, practical doctor, PLUS and pharmacy that was not playing doctor, to get a prescribed medicine – during what was called a pandemic.
hmmm…. pretty risky, and unusual circumstances.
During 2020, the pandemic was getting blamed on the current president (Trump),
not on china.
Yet Trump had people working / funded to:
-make masks,
-make ventilators,
-operation warp speed to prepare a tested treatment in a year (untold that ‘political’ science had an ulterior motive… money, and power … )
-and offered up other therapeutic treatment ideas – that the media would critique, censure
-provide daily updates,
It was getting clearer that there was political science (called ‘science’),
overtaking medical science.
By the time the gene therapy treatment (jabs by 3 different manufacturers) became available in March 2021, I had the opportunity to get the ‘free’ ( taxpayer funded gallore) jab, about 200 miles away … but simply said, after self-doctoring, seeking correct, consistent answers for a year, having work processes turned upside down – but still getting work done, while others were not …
” I need to get more information ” (before a jab).
-people would see the theatre of a politician getting a jab,
-people would see sports teams, pressuring players to get the jab… etc.
And boy, 2 years later, there is a lot “more information” available today, than yesterday.
Then, instead of just the media propaganda and peer pressures,
in September of 2021, the
no, not ever, vax mandates notion,
turned into, by installed wef office holder….
take the jab, or lose your job
(coercion to seek conformity, unity – under force. Supposedly for the health, but it was to $ell the jab, for pharmaceutical profiteering, (and in turn, fund politician$ that would verbally support the jab)
Government entities began to notify employees – with some difficult to achieve opt out exceptions, pending a long, long review process while the employee(s) are placed under duress (coercions, by design) pending a decision.
The U.S. used to be known as the place to get the best medical treatment. That over-arching perspective (based on prior decades of proof, pre obama care era)
tricked people for several years – and is still tricking many today.
It is clear that there is political science (called ‘science’),
that overtook medical science.
[ thankfully, over those 2-3 years, there were also found good exceptions, good, ethical, do not harm, doctors (5-10 +/- that were interviewed, provided public video’s beyond their normal duty.) during the last 2 years.
It did not help that they were being censored.
It did help that there were still some alternative methods of communications (mostly of the private type) to obtain good information.
For a better tomorrow, it would be great if that could become the normal again, instead of an exception.
To do so, the ‘politics’ and/or money waving around /enticing, needs to get out of the ‘science’ such that the ‘do no harm’ code,
is a common, verifiable practice amongst the 99% of practitioners,
instead of a marketing phrase – that takes years to discover after harms are done to so, so many.]
The doctors, pharmacies and their minions (and media, and 4th branch etc.) etal should do an honest days job,
so that we can also better focus upon, and do our honest days work
(without doing their work too. but we can, if need be…its proven…).
[ I understand, that is not how some ideologies, miss leaders and their minions $elfishly miss think.
But, they should do a verifiable ( el pronto), honest days work. ]
imho
Love thy neighbors
The narratives, the facts, the coercion did not add up.
Enter THE PANGOLIN stage right… I still chuckle on this one 🙂
Jumping in, and then reading.
Why did we refuse to take the shot? Me, my husband, my kids, my grandkids, my mom, most of my friends…
First and foremost, something injected into your body, that you can’t get rid of? I knew from the women who took Depo-Provera that had huge issues. It caused non stop bleeding, and these women just had to sit it out, waiting for their bodies to get rid of it. I heard of the thalidomide babies, born without limbs. I heard about shoe stores using xray machines to check for fit.
And my own private physician told me at least twenty years ago, Never ever take a brand new drug. Wait at least one year, better off three to five years, to see how the general population reacts.
I couldn’t see injecting something into my body without long term testing.
Finally, Dr Mercola had an interview with Kennedy about the mrna shot they had tried for twenty years to develop – one pesky little problem – the animals kept dying.
Yes, we were ostracized. Yes, we were told we were stupid. I missed my grandson’s bris because I wasn’t allowed into Israel at the time.
Looking back, I’m still so satisfied with our decision. I’m incredibly impressed that only did I understand, most of the people around me understood. Only my in laws and step father took it, despite our warnings.
Pretty sure I had Covid in late December 2019.
I could list about 15 reasons I was hesitant to get vaccinated, the major one being that my FIL was hospitalized short of breath with an enlarged heart 3 days after his second dose of Moderna. Then my employer mandated. Scared, I waited, but gave in to the pressure from my employer and some pressure to get the jab for the good of the elderly relatives. Thankfully I was following Alex Berenson and based on what he knew he said the least risky was the non-mRNA J&J shot. I was so scared I was shaking when I went to the local CVS.
I never believed in it and happened to have a small group of friends who were “resisters”. They were also being pressured by their employers and/or family to get the jab in order to attend holiday gatherings or see their grandchildren. I started a support group on zoom in the fall of 2021, where we covered many topics, including sharing info on fighting the employer mandates, coping with the loss and feelings of being ostracized by family members. We shared information, love, and prayers. It was an amazing group and a heartwarming experience to feel so much in common with what felt like were so few at that time.
I filed a religious exemption for the booster. I wish I knew enough to do that before the initial jab. I am terribly saddened by the many who are dying suddenly recently. But thankfully, I think some who drank the kool-aid are starting to awaken.
First off, a big atta girl for CTH for bumping this up! As a total Trumper I was astonished at warp speed, but thought Trump knew he couldn’t dis big pharma and survive. But once Bill Gates appeared all over TV, as if he is Americas doctor, I knew it was all BS, and Alex Jones was on to something. Ivermectin is horse paste medicine lol! Joe Rogan almost gone from Spotify for talking about it. I found RFK jr. from Children’s Health Defense, a democrat, and author of The Real Dr. Fauci, a go to source .
Why I never even considered getting the vaccine:
1. In March 2020 my 16 year old granddaughter had major health issues that required 4 trips to the ER and many trips to Urgent Care and then to many specialists in a variety of fields who couldn’t figure out why she was having episodes of asphyxia and choking. Five minutes into a consultation at holistic MD Dr. David Brownstein’s office in Detroit (in the middle of Covid insanity) she found out her problem was due to the Gardisil vaccine (HPV), a vaccine for cervical cancer that is given to all middle school girls — and now to boys too (nevermind that boys don’t have a cervix). A little researched revealed many teenagers worldwide have died or been seriously injured by the Gardasil vaccine. That ended my faith in all vaccines. But my discovery of the absolute evil afoot in our world had just begun.
2. In April 2020 that same holistic MD was curing patients of Covid with high doses of vitamins A, C, D, Lugol’s iodine and nebulizing highly diluted food grade hydrogen peroxide, a protocol he’d used for influenza for 25 years. This was in Detroit, a city especially hard hit by the virus in the beginning. He was posting interviews with his patients on YouTube and getting 500,000 views per 24 hours with each new video. He’d ask his patients to describe their symptoms and their recovery step by step, asking for clarity and detail but never putting words in their mouths. The videos were awesome because you could see ordinary people describing everything they went through, and it gave you hope because many thought they might die but recovered just fine. All the therapeutics were available over the counter. We stocked up. A video lecture posted by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai described in microbiological detail why vitamins A, C and D were vital to recovery from Covid. He recommended very similar dosing to Dr. Brownstein’s protocol — extremely high doses for just a few days.
3. In May 2020 the FTC shut down Dr. Brownstein’s YouTube channel as well as all 12 years of outstanding and informative blog posts he’d published that covered a myriad of medical topics including the devastation caused by all vaccines. The FTC threatened to shut down his practice if he didn’t remove almost all of his online presence. This was the Federal TRADE Commission, not the CDC or AMA. I remember a statement he’d made in a medical presentation to colleagues that babies born in 1960 got 3 vaccines by the time they were 18. Babies born in 2000 got 72 by the time they were 18. That video is not available to for humanity to watch any more. In that talk he listed the things that have been found in vaccine vials, ranging from Epstein-Barr virus to shards of glass. Sure wish I had a screenshot of that list. It was horrifying.
4. The Trump admin told nursing homes not to admit Covid positive people. Instead, nursing homes in states with evil governors were used to house Covid patients, overcrowding the facilities and infecting everyone in the nursing home. Meanwhile the two huge ships that Trump had renovated for Covid care, one on the east coast and one on the west coast that had something like a thousand beds each, never got used.
5. In the documentary Plandemic, Dr. Judy Mikovitz described in detail how her AIDS research (and discovery of a cure just months after AIDS arrived on our shores) that she did as a very young researcher working under Dr. Fauci ended up getting her place raided by the FBI. They took all her research: notebooks, computers, backup drives, etc. Looking back, her description of the FBI raid was just like all the other FBI raids we’ve now witnessed. She was imprisoned too. For finding a cure.
6. In Nov 2020 there was a coup d’etat at the polls, capping off, for me, four years of discovery of just how evil our government is. How could anyone trust the safety and efficacy of an injection that was concocted by the very same government that stole a presidential election?
7. By December 2020 HCQ and Ivermectin were highly touted as treatment protocols but were impossible for many MDs to prescribe despite doctors worldwide begging to be allowed to. One especially moving video was pulmonary and critical care physician Dr. Pierre Cory begging a Senate Committee in tears to allow Ivermectin to be legally prescribed for Covid because, as he said, he was tired of watching people die. Months later, Blue Cross Blue Shield in certain states dropped their contracts with doctors who prescribed Ivermectin. Those doctors could no longer accept Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance because they had been prescribing Ivermectin for Covid! HCQ and Ivermectin should have been in huge bins by the front door of every pharmacy, supermarket and big box store worldwide, available to everyone everywhere for free, no prescription needed. It would have been a heckuva a lot cheaper than paying Big Pharma for competing versions of the vaccine.
8. In December 2020 my 86 year old friend got Covid and his daughters wanted him to be given Ivermectin in the hospital. He’d bought it at the feed store and given it to his own horses himself many times. The human pill form was in stock at his local pharmacy. His pulmonary doctor at the hospital wouldn’t prescribe it because he was afraid of doing anything that wasn’t CDC approved. My friend died in January 2021.
9. In January and February 2021 Drs. Sherri Tenpenny, Christianne Northrup and Carrie Madej recorded several Zoom calls discussing the Covid vaccine and predicting large scale death around the world if the rollout wasn’t stopped. Dr. Madej described seeing frightening things when she put a slide of Covid vaccine material she’d obtained somehow under a microscope.
10. Dr. Charles Hoffe in BC posted heartbreaking videos describing Covid vaccine injury he was seeing in his practice in a remote rural town in British Columbia. His patients were mostly First Nations people who were approved for the vaccine ahead of everyone else. Cancers came back aggressively. MS that had been in remission for 25 years came back aggressively. He started doing d-dimer tests on every patient who got the vaccine. 62% tested positive for microscopic clots forming in their blood. He wrote letters to Canadian Medical VIPs begging them to stop the rollout and do some studies. He never got responses. I saw a report that a “wildfire” came through his area and wiped out his town, his practice, his test results and his house.
11. German Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi posted detailed and deeply moving video lectures explaining what spike proteins will do to the body.
12. German Dr. Andreas Noack, one of the world’s top experts on graphene oxide, posted a terrifying video explaning what graphene oxide will do to a body. It’s like microscopic flying double-edged swords in the bloodstream. Shortly afterward posting it he died.
13. In a video interview, Nobel prize winning French virologist Luc Montagnier described how the vaccine rollout would cause mass deaths in waves, a few months apart, then a few years apart, then a decade or so apart.
14. A mortician in England posted a video of the foot long rubbery blood clots he was pulling out of both veins and arteries that didn’t feel like biological tissue. Later it was revealed these clots did not contain the organic elements normally found in dead bodies.
15. In March 2021 at the urging of my siblings, my 91 year old mother who had been in extraordinarily good health got the first of three jabs. She promptly had neurological problems — lurching when she walked — and then had a year long case of unstoppable diarrhea that is mostly under control now with meds. She is very proud of getting 2 shots and a booster even though I warned her about every single one of the above points, sending her links and begging her to wait. She was terrified of dying of Covid since she was in the age group that was most prone (even though she had no co-morbidities and walked 3 miles a day). That massive fear obliterated all rational thought for her.
16. In November 2021 my local MD whose practice is focused on geriatrics got a letter from Medicare that if he and his staff of four didn’t all get the vaccine by December 5, 2021, his contract with Medicare would be terminated. He refused, so he can’t offer Medicare now and all of his patients have to pay out of pocket. The letter he received was sent to all private medical practices that were under contract with Medicare. So, if your doctor accepts Medicare, he or she and his or her staff were all vaccinated…or cheated with fake vaccine documentation and/or saline in the syringe.
17. In the summer of 2022 I met a newly red-pilled nurse who worked the Covid ward in a major hospital. She said as Covid unfolded in 2020, nothing going on inside the hospital matched what was being reported on the news. She also said Remdesivir killed every patient she saw who took it. When she was told she had to get the vax to keep working, she and her hubby and two small children sold their home and hit the road in an RV. Luckily for them, they had come into financial independence in the interim. She is now working with top lawyers worldwide putting together class action lawsuits for crimes against humanity.
I’ve been shocked since Day One that more people weren’t more skeptical. The information has been out there, even if it was suppressed.
Thanks ultimately go CTH for daily in-depth and insightful reporting, and thanks also go to Gateway Pundit, Citizen Free Press, Zero Hedge and all the other wonderful alternative internet-based press because without all of you great and brave warriors, the above information never would have seen the light of day.
Very informative! Ty
Great post thank you
I saw the same dynamic as 9/11 and the rollout of the TSA and other police state apparatus.
I knew that the masks would not stop anything, and I knew the insistence on them was two things.
Finally, I saw the cash rolling around and the pathetic chasing of $$ for a psyop–GIT-YER-COVID-TEST-HERE signs everywhere.
It was definitely a wheat from the chaff winnowing that took place.
I was amazed how much was chaff. I was amazed that most of the chaff was in the upper-middle class.
I have no loyalty to America anymore.
God bless
And thank you Rand Paul!
SD, thx for the reminder of the unused USS Comfort and the Samaritans Purse field hospital in NYC. Think there was another ship sitting off of San Fran, also unused (?).
Yep. It all added to the “nah, I don’t *think* so” scenario.
I was run-off from my job for not taking the injections. After 9 months of unemployement, I took the J&J shot because it wasn’t mRNA-based. I immediately followed that with a six-month aspirin regimen out of fear that it might still cause myocarditis. I did get a job, then soon afterward made the jump to a much better workplace. They pay well and don’t impose any injection mandates.
I hate that I ever took that shot, but at least it wasn’t one of the RNA-based injections that are now known to be so deadly. The booster bros dropping dead nowadays are simply receiving their just desserts. Let them get injected until they die, if that’s what they want. But leave me the hell alone.
No, I did not get the shot.
I remember the day and the hour when I suddenly felt ill in November of 2019. At that moment I thought clearly “This does not feel like anything I have had before.”
I struggled severely through the illness in late 2019 and early 2020, but thank God I recovered by using resources at hand with an intense determination.
The personal hardships and problems of the past few years seem to be over, but recalling them now is painful again.
The CTH folks have been a strong pillar to stay near while fending off the waves of diabolical onslaught from many quarters.
Thanks be to God!
In May of 2020 my wife and I (retired) moved from Arizona to the Gulf coast, mid-state Florida just as Covid was becoming a major thing. This was a very surreal time – moving to a new home and state and Covid. Covid was a cultural phenomenon: it was all everyone was talking about, all the time, there was no escaping its existence.
We had stopped following the MSM national news years before because of their overt bias, but we could not avoid ALL news. We needed to watch local news, if for nothing else but to watch the weather (if you live on the Gulf coast of Florida you need to follow the weather during the summer). This was at a time when the news broadcasts were displaying Covid stats – cases and deaths – every day, all the time. The psychological effect was incredible. It was amazing to see how many people would drive to testing sites and wait in lines for hours, and days at a time just to be tested; and then when the “vaccines” were released do it all over again to get jabbed!
Through all of this, all this time, we felt fine, never got sick. We were always skeptical of the vaccines and the stats, a lot of things just didn’t add up or make sense. I would tell my wife that the media was trying to scare us and to keep things in perspective. Eventually, the constant drumbeat finally got to her and she panicked; she decided to get vaccinated. Plus, she was tired of “lying” to our neighbors about whether or not we were vaccinated. We did our homework though; we both decided not to get the mRNA based jabs from Pfizer or Moderna, that was not negotiable. We opted for the J&J because its solution employs the viral vector methodology and technology, nothing with your DNA, or so they say. One jab and done. The other positive to this action, or it seemed reasonable at the time, was that we would have our vaccine card that could be presented for whatever purpose needed to continue on with life.
One final point for me: I did not want to get jabbed, but when my wife said that she was, I figured that I would have too also. After 35 years of marriage, we’re in this together, no matter what. So I prayed to God that He would take care of us and then let the pharmacist do her job…
The short answer is this: as a healthy adult male in my prime who has been blessed with an immune system, I don’t take experimental drugs, injections, vaccines or medications for any reason, and I never will.
The only scenario where I would ever budge from that belief would be if I was dying of cancer or some other terminal illness and had nothing to lose.
This unshakeable, unchangeable, and very wise belief of mine is one of the many common sense measures that has kept me alive and healthy this long. It ranks right up there at the top of the list with things like not walking out in front of speeding trains, not putting my wet finger in electrical outlets, and not skydiving without a parachute.
Had I not been born with basic survival instincts like these, there were many RED FLAGS that would have stopped me from getting “the vaccine”. Here are just a few.
RED FLAG #1: The overnight, coordinated shutdown of the entire country, and most of the western world, and the subsequent controlled narrative engineering; all based on one untested, unproven(now disproven) model out of some quack foreign researchers at a college in England that claimed covid would have a 10% mortality rate and 10 to 20 million US deaths alone would occur. There was no reaction like this to Ebola, swine flu, bird flu or anything else, but now all of a sudden there was real, simultaneous panic by governments, media, big corporations and the medical community, and they all just happened to shutdown, censor and give the same guidance(orders) in lockstep all around the world? Come on. Planning like that takes years. Something was off. I must say, the fact they were able to pull it off so effectively, as evil and dangerous as it was, is rather impressive.
RED FLAG #2: when the bodies never piled up in the hospital hallways and parking lots like they said would happen, the media began using fake videos and photographs, and they got caught. It was now obvious they were not only exaggerating, but deliberately lying. Why?
RED FLAG #3: Pfizer deliberately sabotaged their control group before their double blind trials ended by contacting all of the placebo recipients and offering them the real vaccine. This meant there was and never will be a way to prove or disprove adverse side effects cause by “the vaccine”.
RED FLAG #4: The ingredients in the vaccine are unknown and never will be known.
RED FLAG #5: Medications take 5 to 10 years or more to test and bring to market. It has been just over 2 years since a majority of the human population began the largest clinical trial in history.
RED FLAG #6: Social media and healthcare systems began censoring all opposing views to the government narratives. Doctors who challenged obvious falsehoods were fired. Anyone who spoke against the party narrative was silenced.
RED FLAG #7: Doctors began parroting ridiculous ideas that everyone knows to be false- surgical masks stop virus transmission, natural immunity is now inferior to vaccine induced immunity, circles on the floor and 6 feet of distancing stop the spread, etc.
RED FLAG #8: The guy who invented MRNA technology says it is not safe for humans.
RED Flag #9: Autoimmune diseases can take 5 to 10 years or more from the initial event that triggered them before the present themselves. We are just beginning year 3 of the largest vaccine trials in history, but the medical community at large has assured us for the last 2 years that if there were any long term side effects, we would have seen them by now.
RED FLAG #10: We are still being bombarded with propaganda via radio, TV and internet ads telling us “the vaccines” are safe and effective. They make sure not to mention WHICH vaccines are safe and effective. They are being deliberately vague and ambiguous. This is likely to shield themselves from accountability. “I didn’t tell you THAT specific vaccine was safe and effective” This is a calculated deception, also known as a lie. Why?
There are many, many more. I could go on for days, but why bother? A majority of the country already took the poison. I feel we are witnessing a modern day Holocaust right before our eyes. The medical community at large was involved in the last one, and they are involved in this one.
Discovered the vaxx was a ‘Gene Therapy’ invented by Dr. Mahlone and didn’t contain weakened Virus like a traditional Flu Shot which I refuse to take because even that is only 50% effective at best during a year they guess the Flu Virus properly.
Studied Mahlone while the Elderly first began taking the initial shots. He had a bad reaction on either his first or second vaxx. Said nope from that point on. Additional common sense signal intel like the dems going full force and the shadow banning beginning to happen leading up to Mahlones bad vaxx and then report on Eric Clapton sealed the deal for a strong NO!
I knew the first 3 days into our National 10 Day Shut Down we over reacted when the ‘experts’ began throwing years of Flu and Cold Science/History out the window.
Our next challenge we’ll need to guard ourselves against being bitter because the Gov’t messed up big time on Wuhan Virus. There will be another bioweapon for sure.
Age 68 and in great health. I’m not overweight and I’ve never smoked, drank, or done drugs. I don’t like doctors and absolutely don’t trust the government. Pretty easy decision for me and I’ve never regretted it.
I did take the first round when they came out. Then as I became more aware of the lies I decided never again
Nov 3, 2020 at 11PM I watched the election get stolen. Nov 4, 2020, I started digging and discovered over the next few months that most, if not all of what we have been told/taught has been a lie, When COVID was first announced, I took it seriously for about 1 week because my wife has a terminal illness that significantly compromises her immune system, After 7 days of listening to the propoganda, I began calling it CONVID, and have none the exact opposite of what the “experts” have been telling us to do. I intend to continue along these lines for as long as the Good Lord allows me to be here.
My wife and I were skeptical from the very beginning of the “pandemic”. I decided to bypass the vaccination route until I could understand the situation more clearly. I’ve never blindly trusted the authorities. And we raised our children with that attitude. The more information we acquired, the greater was our resolve to go against the flow and remain unvaccinated. Our two adult children and their families also decided to decline vaccination. The pressure from friends, in-laws and employers was intense and in some cases became nasty. We decided to remain quiet and resolute. I stocked up on ivermectin “horse paste” after many failed attempts to get it legitimately through doctors that we knew and the mail order prescriptions were too costly. My wife eventually contracted COVID and it took me 5 days to get it from her. She was pretty sick for a week and a half but recovered nicely. She didn’t want to take the ivermectin paste. After I tested positive I took the recommended dosage regimen. After two days I was 90% back to normal. After 4 days 100%. Over the last 15 months I have taken a prophylactic dose weekly. My wife got COVID a second time and was only mildly sick for a few days. I haven’t been sick a second time. I had one close friend who died while having COVID. He unfortunately went to the hospital, was admitted and went through the process of respirator and remdesivir.
Another close friend took the vaccine and booster and died unexpectedly of heart failure. He was in his early forties, had no bad habits and exercised intensely. I am saddened and surprised at how easily close, conservative friends have bought into this charade and how they continue to justify their decisions. I watch as they get COVID 3 or 4 more times and then stand in line for another booster. This whole thing is akin to a bad apocalyptic science fiction movie.
1. No picture of the “flu’s” gene, nor its sequence.
2. Mexican swine flu flop.
3. Dengue, Zika and West Nile on a can of Repel bug spray as sales points.
4. Improper guidance for mask use that contradicted good practice.
5. Six foot distance. I only have two.
6. Early dismissal of Ivermectin, after its success for millions in Africa.
7. Over 20 years of large daily doses of vitamin D prior to January, 2020.
8. A “doctor”, after telling me my injured hand would make it, asked me if I’d been tested for “prediabetes” and if I was familiar with it.
Yes. It took Mom early.
They are no longer doctors. They are sales people, and I’m a hard sell.
Oops. I quit tv 19 May 1995. That helped, too.
I was 66 and retired when when the COVID insanity started in earnest around March of 2020. I have an autoimmune condition for which I will be taking immunosuppressants for the rest of my life. The experience I had with the general medical community as I fell into my condition had opened my eyes to the myth of the infallible, all-knowing doctor, and I about to have that awakening deepened.
That March my wife and I were in the Chicago area doing DIY on my daughter’s home in preparation for a hoped-for sale. As such, I had to shop at big outlets every day for supplies and I witnessed the rapid move from “stay at home” to “wear a mask” to “only a few people in the store at a time”. I saw the rapid, near instantaneous falling in line of 95% of those I encountered in the stores. Masks one day led to respirators the next and the silliest of all, the Darth Vader face shields. Oh, and we had the pathetic car parade of teachers virtuously honking at their students as they drove through the neighborhood.
At the same time I saw no one who was sick. I saw not one single person even cough or sneeze. I certainly saw no one dropping dead in the streets as they supposedly were doing in China. I knew immediately that something wasn’t right. In other words, reality didn’t match the narrative.
We didn’t much TV but I scoured the internet and quickly found people of like mind: Irishmen Dave Cullen and Ivor Cummins, the great Panda group out of South Africa, Sucharit Bhakdi, and later, Bret Weinstein’s with his video with Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch. The broadcasts of the Pence taskforce had me yelling at the screen; I could tell Fauci and Birx were liars right off the bat and I turned off and tuned out.
By early summer I was completely convinced that, outside of a small group of the susceptible due to comorbidities, the whole thing was a scam. Those most rabidly promoting it were almost exclusively on the left, meaning they couldn’t be trusted.
When Geert Vanden Bossche came out with his posts warning about what would happen if we mass-vaccinated in an ongoing pandemic, it made sense to me. So when my two neurologists, one from a prestigious clinic, recommended I take the shot, before it had even been rolled out and despite no one with autoimmune conditions having been included in the trial, I ignored their advice and my respect for the medical community fell further. I had to trust what was at first only my own intuition but had by now been backed up by many great people around the world.
Despite nearly everyone around me in my generally conservative community masking and getting the shot, my wife and I refused. We wore masked only at the few medical appointments we had to attend. The experience of resisting, while at first a bit frightening, became exhilarating.
Seeing what’s going on now worldwide with the huge rise in all-cause mortality, I am so glad not to have this poison swirling around in my body. Sadly, my children were forced to take it or lose their jobs. Equally sad, I no longer have a Bible study group or a home church because both succumbed to the hysteria. We had only one family member who outright called us idiots, but we’re sill on speaking terms. We just don’t discuss this subject.
I hope you find a new church to go to because we don’t want those who closed our churches to win. Churches also could have been shut down if they were not following the law.
When the jab was first offered where we live (about January 2021), we already knew there was a significant disconnect between what we were being told by the powers that be in DC and reality. In particular, we knew it was unlikely that the virus had come from bats in the wild, various US government agencies were funding the research that produced the virus, and that Fauci had purposely misled Congress and others by conflating the Infection Fatality Rate with the (usually much higher) Case Fatality Rate. So we were dubious of every message we got from the government. But what really stopped us from getting the jab was that (at least in this area), one had to sign up using some on-line form to get an appointment to have someone (not your own doctor) administer the jab. It was not obvious ahead of time exactly what information would be required in the on-line signup. We interpreted this approach as a backdoor method to collect information from citizens that the government doesn’t ordinarily have access to, and obviously to use that information to control a person or persons for some unstated purpose.
As 2021 unfolded, our mistrust only deepened; the unconscionable vaccine mandates, the refusal of early treatment, the revelation that the computer code that predicted horrific outcomes was not open source and was paid for by someone who had much to gain from the administration of the vaccines, and the efforts by the powers that be to treat unvaxxed people worse than criminals, only deepened our convictions.
By the start of 2022, we realized that a crime against humanity whose scale we couldn’t fathom was being committed in front of our eyes. Now, a year later, all our fears have been confirmed.
We are certain that the so-called vaccine is a cover to instantiate social credit scores and centralized control over the whole world by an unaccountable cabal; we do not know for sure whether the sickness and deaths that this cabal has already caused was intentional or not.
“crime”…”was being committed” I don’t give a rat’s about their intent!
It’s simple. I haven’t had any shots since I was a tater tot. Never needed any. Didn’t think I needed this one either.
I served in the USN in the late 60’s (Vietnam Era) and realized that every time I took the required “vaccines” and whatever other shots were required, I became deathly ill for at least a week afterward and on at least one occasion ended up in the hospital with an unknown illness. After leaving the service, I simply stopped taking the shots.
When the COVID hysteria came about, it stunk from the first I heard it. From what I was reading, and from watching Fauci and Birx, I just did not feel the narrative was adding up. None of it made sense; and I watched President Trump return from the hospital and felt that something was really, really, really wrong. When he promoted HCQ, the immediate media hysteria combined with CDC against it and to ban it. Dr. Simone Gold and America’s Frontline Doctors were shut down after promoting Ivermectin and HCQ, were banned, lost their jobs and were not allowed to give their professional opinions.
I was watching Crowdsource the Truth with Jason Goldman and Charles Ortel. They walked the streets of NYC, visited the hospitals that were supposed to be overcrowded, the ship President Trump sent, etc. What I saw did not match the hysteria in the media and from Fauci.
When I was told I would have to be subjected to testing in spite of no symptoms, or lose my job, I submitted my resignation and told them no one has the right to force me to be subjected to a medical procedure I do not agree to. My supervisor asked me to rescind the letter and submit a religious objection letter instead, which I did. To date, I have heard nothing. No feedback, no response no reaction and I’m still working. I have now been assigned as a “remote worker” so I’ll never be required to go into the office.
In 2020 I became quite ill, and I’m convinced it was covid but I did not go to the doctor, and I have not now or ever been tested. I had a conversation with God during the time I was most ill, and told Him that if He’s finished with me, take me on, otherwise He would need to heal me because I would not trust the doctors. He healed me.
Since then I have seen the lies the government has put out; and I know 3 people who were fully jabbed and “boosted” who died suddenly. Much younger and more fit than me. I am so grateful to have been blessed with discernment and guided not to succumb to the hysteria. It’s all been a lie.
First and foremost, I’m what you call “Hyper-Immune.” The layman’s phrase is that “I don’t get sick.” The last time I had so much as a minor cold was back in elementary school. I’m currently 58 years old and have not used my health insurance once in my life (but make it a priority to posses such coverage just the same). So, when the initial reports of Covid were making the media rounds in early 2020, I didn’t pay much attention. The only thing I DID pay attention to was the grocery store requiring masks to enter (which I found out through personal experiment, would not be enforced). I wore a mask for about 5 minutes and took it off. I haven’t worn one since. And, I didn’t require my employees to wear one either. Did I get the shot. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Mostly because I didn’t need it. Secondarily because I took the time to read up on what they were actually doing and I was convinced that it wasn’t a “vaccine.” More importantly, the more I read, the more I realized that the perceived experts didn’t know exactly what it was either (from a side-effect perspective).
I’m a bit of an outlier on your gathering of information here. I wouldn’t bother getting a vaccine for any exposure regardless of the threat. Chances are it wouldn’t effect me. …and if it did, the rest of you are pretty much screwed no matter what you do.
Having tracked the early story of the virus and it’s alleged R10 infection rate and 3% death rate from late December, by March 15,2020 I was convinced that if covid was a huge health problem than it would have been apparent already. By mid march it was clear that the virus was no more than any of the other Asian originating pandemic.
When the madness in mid-march 2020 broke out, I thought that if there was any issue with a deadly outbreak, then within two weeks of pushing everyone into grocery store on top of each other, we would see an explosion of illness.
Nothing in reality added up -so when the media hype of the vacccine started, I had no trust that it would be needed or helpful in any way.
In December 2019 and January 2020, before anyone was talking about COVID-19, several members of our family – including me – got “the flu”. It was a very nasty one but our doctor prescribed zpaks for everyone affected – and we all recovered.
A short time later when the COVID-19 subject reared its ugly head, I realized that is what we all had contracted. I remember Nancy Pelosi ginning up resistance for President Trump’s China travel ban, including her stunt in Chinatown. That along with the early suggestions that this had come to us via China was all I needed to hear to realize what the Democrats and others working with them were up to.
As I was working through the maze of misinformation we were handed, there were several articles and videos in February 2020 of Chinese people who had gone to Italy to hug them. Why?? A month later 3,400 Italians were dead.
I remembered when Pope Francis, on December 31, 2019, had slapped an Asian woman’s hand after she grabbed his hand. What did Francis (along with everyone else) know and when did he know it?
None of it made sense and in my gut I knew that I would never take any “shot” again. No one in our family has gotten it, nor will they.
I’ve been in the political trenches for a very long time. While doing this kind of work, you develop a sense about these kind of things. Thankfully I listened to my gut and proceeded from that point.
Why I Didn’t Get the Jab
I didn’t take it initially just based on general distrust of a relatively new technology being used without adequate safety testing. The more I researched and observed the less sense all of this made. The more time passed and the more I learned the more convinced I became that I had made the correct decision. Now it’s painfully obvious to me how many people were scammed, unfortunately including some members of my own family. We’re civil again, but it was ugly for a while. I try to always let love win and fortunately it did in this instance. But unfortunately I live in dread of one of them dropping dead. All I can do is pray. They are adults who made their own decisions and have to live with the consequences. I do too though.
I’m in my seventies and have been exposed to lots of information for decades about unethical research programs and secret activities by elements of the U.S. government and have used alternative media for information access.
I was able early on in 2020 to learn there was misinformation—possibly, deceit—surrounding the announcement of a possible pandemic. I sought every bit of information I could get from trusted sources and new sources. I saw the move by the U.S. government and others around the world to shut down simple, effective treatment. I saw what the evil CCP was doing. I saw what Australia and New Zealand and Canada did.
I was clear early on that I did not trust the information, even from Trump—because he was highly dependent on people he didn’t really know.
Subsequently, I got access to the patents for some of the “vaccine” products, along with a Microsoft patent for implanted electronics. Around the same time, I learned about Bill Gates’s and The Gates Foundation’s involvement in pharmaceutical companies, particular with vaccines and with the World Health Organization; I saw the video of the tabletop exercise of the COVID outbreak; got Klaus Scwab’s books on The Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution; watched videos of the maniacal Harari; read RFK’s book on Fauci and started following the information from Children’s Health Defense, Dr. Simone Gold, and other doctors snd scientists (Zelensky, Atlas, McCullough, Mikovits, Pavlesky, Tenpenny, Mercola, Malone, Breggin, et al) as they educated themselves and what part of the public they were able to reach; and read reports of what the Italian, Japanese, and other scientists were discovering, along with everything I could find on the whole satanic plan to reduce the population on the planet and further enslave the remainder.
As a small business owner (in California at the time) I observed the deliberate damage done by the government via the lockdowns and the inequitable way businesses were selected for shutdown, along with the closing of churches—and the whole evil scheme.
This was enough to insure I would not take the bioweapon jabs or pills or probably any other pharmaceutical product for the foreseeable future.
I was able to influence most of my family and close friends to avoid the shots, but a few of them took one or two shots. Our more extended family and most of our friends who never got the chance to know the truth have taken the shots. Several have had serious adverse affects, which they deny are associated with the shots. Some have died—even suddenly. Among this group have been strokes, heart attack, pulmonary blood clot, double pneumonia, severe intestinal bleeding, fainting spells, wildly fluctuating blood pressure, blindness, and the return of cancer.
I am trusting God to bring justice to the criminals who carried this out, including doctors, nurses, staff, and leadership in medical organizations, government agencies, and wherever people cooperated in order to save their jobs.
I am eagerly awaiting the Nuremberg trials for crimes against humanity, which Reiner Fullmich and others intend to prosecute.
My family are all vaxxed and boosted. They pressured me, but didn’t cut me off. My neighbor who is boosted (sadly so she can see her grandchildren) has had multiple bouts with Covid, this last one resulting in several months of endless coughing and fatigue. So far my family members are okay as far as I know and hope.
My reasons for not taking the shot were very similar to many others here who also did their own research. The data was available fairly early on that something was amiss. Israel for instance was publishing data that was very eye opening.
In 2020 I noticed the efforts to discredit hydroxychloroquine as a treatment option. In June 2020 I read that The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal had just retracted a study that had been used by the media to prove hydroxychloroquine was ineffective and a risk for heart issues.
I took an interest in this because my brother had used this study to declare hydroxychloroquine was unsafe. The reason for the retraction —It turns out the retracted study of 900,000 people had been made up out of whole cloth. There had been no study; it was a work of fiction. This stunning discovery came after members of the international medical community began questioning why they had never heard of such a large scale study in progress.
It seemed to me that some powerful entities were collaborating to remove all treatment options. No other treatments was a requirement for a new vax to get to market under emergency use authorization. It stank. All the hype stank. First the bribes to get vaxxed, then the mandates. Then the government using financial incentives to in my view increase hospital deaths –bonuses to hospitals were tied to covid deaths, death by ventilator, use of remdesivir. Hope someday we can develop our own parallel medical system as I have no trust in our current one.
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Another bit of my story to add. In the early part of this ‘pandemic’ in my blue state there were daily news briefings by the county executive and the governor. And people felt forced to pay attention because the rules kept getting changed, expanded, morphed.
One or two missed briefings and one would be out of step with “the updated rules.” Some people were even being arrested for breaking rules that had never been passed into law –never understood that. Think in retrospect the endless changing of rules and what to do or not do to “stay safe” were psych techniques to keep people off kilter.
It has rattled me that so many people could be so completely brainwashed that facts, research data did not matter a whit. Logic didn’t exist. People would admit that yes the CDC now says the vax doesn’t stop transmission and then still support mandates or still not want to be around anyone who is unvaxxed.
I have never found a way to not answer the question ‘are you vaxxed?’ Everyone vaxxed is happy to say so. To waver or not answer is itself an answer –yep, the one not willing to answer is unvaxxed. Hated that invasion of privacy.
Just as I was hoping some of the medical dystopia is receding I’m hearng reports that companies are gearing up to utilize the mrna technology to inject feed animals, plants/produce and pets with mrna vaccines. Wondering if my refusal of the mrna shot will be for nought if it gets into the food supply.
Forgot to add that I finally caught Covid in Jan 2022. Took ivermectin (pony paste). The initial fever broke within 2 days and was fine in 2-3 more days.
It is an experimental injection based on a new MRNA technology that had never been used in human beings, developed over a period of a few months, with no long term safety data.
No. I don’t take experimental injections.
Also, the antibodies that were to be produced by the injection were in the blood, not in the nasal cavities where they were needed. So, it seemed highly unlikely that the injection could work.
Also, I knew during the Trump administration from an article written by a Harvard doctor and published on MSNBC (of all places!) that all previous vaccines against coronaviruses failed because they cause ADE, or antibody dependent enhancement, where after a period of seeming success against the virus, the virus evolves to use the antibody to make the disease in the vaccinated more deadly.
Also, the pharmaceutical companies had no liability if the injection killed you.
Also, my health insurance doesn’t cover injuries caused by experimental injections, so if the shot injured me, I would have to pay. So, I was risking my health and my life savings if the injection didn’t work. Not a smart risk.
Also, the mathematics told me: DON’T TAKE IT.
If 100 people get tetanus, 90 will die.
If 100 people get tetanus and they have the tetanus vaccine, none will die.
So, with death numbers like that, you can do a study on a tetanus vaccine that shows the difference.
That’s the “effective” part of the “safe and effective” slogan.
Is it safe to take the tetanus vaccine? That’s a separate question. Its side effects might be horrible.
So . . . look at covid with the same analysis.
Early on, it seemed that covid was killing about 1 in 1,000 people who caught the disease. (We now know it was much lower than this. Many of the early sick were killed by the ventilators.)
Here was my simple math question:
If 1 out of a 1,000 die from covid, how many people would you need to test to see if the vaccine works?
Well . . . if 1 out of 1,000 die; then 10 out of 10,000; then 100 out of 100,000; then 1,000 out of a million.
So to obtain a statistically significant difference between the injected and uninjected, you would need to compare the death outcomes of 1,000,000 injected with a control group of 1,000,000 uninjected. And all of these people would need to be sick with Covid.
The silly Pfizer study wasn’t anywhere near these mathematical requirements; so, it was mathematically impossible for that study to show effectiveness, despite what the television told me.
And lastly, I’ve been injured by a doctor before.
Not again.
Short version as to why neither 75 y/o me nor 68 y/o wife took the jabs: We choose faith over fear, always, every time.
Please have compassion for those of us who did take the jab for various reasons and may suffer as a result. Some of us took it early on to keep our jobs in healthcare. We will continue to care for you all, God willing, whatever ails you. God bless.
You, along with everyone else that made that difficult decision, have been added to my prayer list.
I chose not to take the COVID gene therapy “vaccines” from a well-educated and researched science, immunology, infectious disease, biochemistry, and professional experience perspective.
I read the early 2020 PubMed sourced articles evaluating the “bioengineered” S1 spike protein effects on cell cultures noting inflammatory and likely thrombo-embolic immune responses. Noted the known physiological effects of binding the ACE2 receptor and down-regulating ACE2 and upregulating ACE, so I predicted that there would be resulting blood pressure, pulmonary and cardiovascular issues.
Since the mRNA gene therapy produced spike protein as the immunogen to produce an immune reaction to COVID-19 virus AND the spike protein would bind the ACE2 receptor, there was high likelihood that the immune system would recognize the cells bound with spike protein as foreign. Basically, an autoimmune response would attack and kill any cell in the body bound with spike protein. ACE2 receptors are found on all arterial cell walls, heart, lungs, kidneys, intestines, ovaries and other organs. Depending on how well one’s body made spike protein via gene therapy, spike protein concentration would also affect risk of adverse events. Then there are the long term immunology aspects that are playing out now in the population that I don’t have time to get into here.
Having multiple decades working with global public health organizations, scientific groups and within industry, I was very familiar with vaccines, dengue vaccine failures in the Philippines, documented coronavirus vaccine clinical trial failures in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s where the animal trials failed. I was also aware of the swine flu vaccine failures going back to the 1970’s.
Finally, I recognized in March 2020 only 21 passengers of the Princess Cruise liner (~3500 passengers and crew) that “emergency” docked in Oakland became infected. Now think about the age of Princess Cruise line passengers and their health. Having been present at an immunology congress meeting when a CDC representative presented how SARS1 was spread through the Chinese apartments in 2004, I knew the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus was not as dangerous or infectious as being spread by the media.
I also read much of the international scientific and medical publications on therapies and therapeutic agents reported in the early days too. Please help me understand how Lancet and NEJM both had to retract major articles regarding hydroxychloroquine as dangerous after billions of doses had been taken for 60 years for malaria and to prevent it.
My friends were also forwarding journal citations regarding alternative therapeutics like Ivermectin to read so I had access to huge scientific knowledge plus practical professional experience with infectious diseases, vaccines and therapeutics going back 25+ years.
I concluded that taking the jab would be like playing Russian Roulette with four live cartridges loaded in a 6-round revolver with six people sitting at the table. From a religious standpoint, suicide is a sin.
People who should of known better either ignored 100 years of scientific knowledge or knowingly and willfully committed atrocities against mankind. Indeed these were #crimesagainsthumanity.
NO way were we taking the vax!!!
Husband was threatened with job loss but stood firm while most gave into the threat. In the end, they dropped it and didn’t fire anyone but the threat was enough to get most holdouts to give in.
Why? Husband has medical school and phd research background. We had already learned to be skeptical of vaccines in general due to specific scientific issues (another discussion) that NO Way would we take a vax that was new technology and mix of ingredients – esp. to a virus that was not a threat to us in our age and health status.
Full Disclosure: 2 yrs into the pandemic my husband came extremely close to dying from covid.
I asked after he was recovering (weeks after coming home from the hospital as he was expected to pass away after leaving the hospital) if he regretted not getting the vax.
His answer was a Resounding NO.
What he regretted was not getting his annual physical so that he could have known that he had diabetes, could have had it under control (he was fit, under 50, exercised regularly, eats almost no sugar other than some honey and fruit, no fast food, almost no grain … and yet was diabetic so we didn’t suspect that he was diabetic). Had he known he was diabetic then he still wouldn’t have gotten the vax but would have had his diabetes under control and would have known he was High Risk for covid complications so would have treated his Covid19 Much More aggressively immediately before damage to organs occurred.
Good News: He didn’t pass away due to prayer and aggressive use of Front Doctors PLUS protocol, and continued to use antioxidants aggressively + chlorine dioxide to continue detoxing as that water crosses the brain blood barrier to detox the brain too. He is almost fully restored to health.
Key: assess your own health and then decide, understand the pros/cons of the virus vax; understand the risks of the virus for yourself/family, and know that you can treat covid.
Advice: Treat IMMEDIATELY as one never knows if one will be one of the ones for whom covid causes organ damage causing critical damage or long term covid rather than just being a normal type virus.
Remember: it does NOT matter that the virus turned out to be “not that bad” or that the vax turns out not to work + being damaging. If the virus was worse as originally claimed and if the virus did work as originally claimed, it still is wrong to force it! Now we look smart … but freedom to be wrong is needed! Of course, most of us decided against it for logical reasons – based on our own health risks; based on our own assessment of the vax; based on our own assessment of the virus … and most of us based these these decisions/opinions on research and facts.
I don’t know why,but the shot,I was afraid of it from the beginning.I heard PT try and talk about the medicines we had that would help.I saw them shut him down and I knew then it was not anything I ever wanted.
Then I started researching online,saw the studies and then thought to myself,like I have everyday since then,,,why have so many people lost their ever lovin minds??To,they are doing all of this on purpose.
I’m so amazed by so many thoughtful, insightful MAGA Patriots, both those who took the jab, and those who didn’t. I love that I haven’t seen anyone piling on those who took the jab – we respect personal choice and decision making.
I’m so impressed by the research so many of you did.
Another insight, we are independent thinkers. We love Trump because he loves us and our country. But we blindly follow no one. This is our strength. We know who our King is, King Jesus!
What an amazing community, a privilege to be a part of it.
For whatever reason someone came to the decision to get the jab, I remind myself “There, but for the Grace of God, go I”.
We cannot know what was in a person’s mind if they did decide to get it, and we certainly cannot allow ourselves to be anything but supportive and helpful.
(I reserve my right to slap anyone – not here – who is vile enough to get in my face and screech for me to ‘mask up’)
That is all.
Skeptical of covid from the outset, shortly saw it as a political hoax/psyop, given the increasingly absurd scare tactics of the ‘experts’ and their media lickspittles.
Either Dr. Malone or Dr. McCullough said it best, “It’s as if you wake up one morning to find half the world has gone bat crazy.”
Half the world went crazy because a small gang of political, medical, and media thugs at the top drove them crazy with a constant drumbeat, ‘covid is the new Bubonic Plague Monster From Outer Space, get the shot or die!’, words to that effect.
I made an appointment twice to get it, but I kept hesitating. I started reading about mRNA “vaccines” from Dr. Robert Malone, then did further research on my own. I was getting lots of heat from friends and family. I was not forced by my employer, thankfully.
I prayed quite about a bit about it and then a Christian friend told me not to make the decision out of fear. That was the clincher. I canceled the 2nd appointment, bought a round of ivermectin to keep on hand, beefed up my vitamin regimen and never looked back.
I chose not to discuss the subject with certain friends and family. I have one close friend who has worshipped the evil garden gnome from day one. That person has no idea I’m not vaxxed. Fortunately, they never asked me point blank!
+1 upvote for “the evil garden gnome”, ie Dr. Fauchi.
I think a big shout out should go out to Dr. Malone who proved a reliable source to all who struggled through this fakedemic.
Sundance, thank you for being a constant voice of reason during this extremely challenging period that we are living through. I’ve read many comments questioning Trump. I remember when Trump told us early during the 2020 Election Cycle that the Democrats were using Covid-19 to steal the 2020 Election. I also remember that many people thought he was crazy for making that claim. Assuming Trump had knowledge that Covid-19 was a GOF Chimeric Virus funded by the DOD and Fauci, would anyone have believed him? If Trump realized at some point that the Covid-19 Vaccine was also a bioweapon and told the public, would anyone have believed him? Would his attorneys advise against him stating that information after leaving office? My point is that it’s easy to be a critic on the sidelines without considering the circumstances.
My family’s story concerning Covid and the shots actually started several years ago with my husband. His boss started requiring staff members to take the flu vaccine. My husband had never felt the need to do so before, because he never got the flu. But he wanted to keep his job so he rolled up his arm.
That flu shot made him feel worse than he ever had in his life. Within days he was very ill and ended up having the flu three times that winter. He was absolutely livid with his boss and informed him that he would not be taking any more flu shots. He hasn’t had a flu shot since. I believe that episode was the beginning of his suspicions about vaccines.
Fast forward twenty years or so to 2020. That spring, around the time everything started shutting down and school was canceled, I discovered I was pregnant with my fourth child. The stories about pregnancy being more difficult in your forties proved true for me. I had a high risk pregnancy that had to be closely monitored and my husband was furloughed from his job for a few weeks. I actually didn’t have enough mental energy to worry about Covid specifically because I was worried about my baby and finances.
My son was born in the fall of 2020, two months premature and weighing less than two pounds at birth. I drove an hour each way to visit him in the NICU in Kansas City every day. My other children were remote learning that year because we were concerned about Covid with a premature baby coming home. After an eight week stay we were finally able to bring him home. I thank God daily that he survived and is doing well.
When we started hearing about a vaccine, my husband the “conspiracy theorist” went to work checking into it. I also had questions. It had been my habit to question anything new and I generally don’t like taking anything that hasn’t been out several years. We quickly decided that we were not taking the mRna shots. We did briefly consider the Johnson & Johnson shot, but more research indicated that it was also a no go. Our concerns were the same as those stated by many others here: spike proteins, blood clots, ect.
At Christmas 2020 we ended up getting Covid. Everyone was fine except I did end up with long Covid symptoms which eased after a year or so. The shot seemed even more pointless after that. The rest of my family, except for my sister, all got the shot, as did my husband’s family.
We started hearing more stories, netted by careful research and our own observations, and it was horrifying. Blood clots, strokes, heart attacks. Children in the ICU. The MSM attacking the mere suggestion of taking cheap medications such as ivermectin. Doctors being threatened and silenced. Fauci, who we already knew was corrupt. Friends ending up in the ER within hours of being vaccinated. A friend of my mother’s actually lost her brother to the shot. His death and the events leading up to it were such that there was no way to deny that the shot caused it.
And of course we noticed the censorship online as well.
My grandfather was a history teacher. He also served in WW2. I inherited his love for learning history. I’m no expert but I know enough to recognize how communists, nazi’s, and other evil governments work and I saw what we were dealing with. Pure evil.
My husband has been a great source of strength for me. But for him, I might have succumbed to fear and taken the shot. I struggle with anxiety and I was worried for my children. Thank God I listened to my husband and did not.
It’s a strange thing for me concerning the medical community. I was so grateful when they saved my sons life, and later, my own. I was absolutely in awe of them and what they did. In the beginning, with the Covid shot, I had concerns, but so many doctors were encouraging it. Some were very pushy. And at first I was willing to agree to disagree. Now that the effects are so obvious, I can only conclude that the doctors still pushing it are some combination of greedy, corrupt, cowardly, or just plain stupid. Honestly, I feel like I have some sort of emotional whiplash, going from being so incredibly grateful to absolutely horrified, outraged, and disgusted by the medical world. These are crimes against humanity!
I guess group think is a powerful thing.
My husband stood up to intense pressure at his job, but ultimately they did not force the shot. Most of the staff, including him, would have been fired in his department if the Supreme Court hadn’t overturned Biden’s orders. They were all unwilling to get jabbed, even if they got fired.
I have some family members running into health problems these days, some perhaps because of age, but at least a couple that are quite young to be having the issues they are dealing with.
I am trying to follow Sundance’s advice and live my best life. Some days, I succeed. Other days I struggle with the shock of what I’m seeing and I cry for the world my children are inheriting. It’s a lot to take in.
God help us all! How could we have let this happen?
The answer to your last question is as simple as it is tragic: demographics and cultural rot.
May the Lord bless and keep your family. I know what you are talking about. My daugher planned a home birth, but her blood pressure shot up and she had to go to a large hospital, diagnosed with pre-eclampsia, and had an emergency C-section. That particular hospital insisted, the last couple of years, on everyone being vaxxed, and even denied heart patients treatment if they weren’t. My daughter was terrified of them thrusting the vaccination on her and didn’t want to go to the hospital. They saved her life and the life of the baby, couldn’t have been more wonderful to her, and her experience was a good one. I’ve never prayed so hard in my life over that situation.
It is a tragedy that women have to make the choices they are making right now because the Medical community, by and large, have lost our trust. I’m so glad you made it!! And I’m grateful to God for saving my daughter and grandbaby.
Thank you! And thank God your daughter and her baby made it!
I’m late in my response, but I didn’t automatically go for the shot simply because it was “experimental”. I decided to wait awhile and be careful. Then I saw a podcast by a top virologist (lady, can’t remember her name), who was very upset that they were offering this to people and warned that it was a vaccination that would NOT stay local and go through your whole body and blood stream, etc. She went onto say, watch the people start dropping dead in a couple years. She was right. Anyhow, that was enough for me. I have a Doctor who would get me hydroxichloroquin and treat me early if I got it. Never did. I’m now 82 and going strong; no sickness at all.
What has upset me and keeps me praying every day is my children and grandchildren who were forced to take it if they wanted to continue school, work, etc. I hope the “players” in this fraud go to jail. I saddens me to think of the people who died early on because they would not treat them with Ivermectin or Hydroxichloioquin. They were murdered as far as I’m concerned!
Thank you for posting this. I somehow accidentally ended up flagging this. Sorry about that. I agree with what you wrote
God bless you dear lady. Stay strong.
I have a pre-existing condition that I did not want aggravated. The condition is seizures and I had read long ago before covid about the vaccine ingredients being major causes of brain inflammation. I have been almost killed by doctors more than once so there is little trust there. I always research a drug prescribed to me and I look up potential side effects. I have become aware that the drug trials are most probably rigged after the Lancet or JAMA (can’t remember which) former editor published an article stating that it was her belief that that is what was going on because so many drugs are taken off the market in 5 to 10 years. So if I had to take a drug, I would choose an older one. Jabs being new and seeing no risk of covid to me whatsoever, I said no, maybe in 10 years.
The pressure was immense from family. They all took it. I am the only non vaxxed adult person. I have 3 nieces and nephews that remain unvaxed. I will remain so in case their parents die I will be the only person left to care for them. I have lost 1 friend, I don’t have very many. I have heard horror stories of turbo cancer from healthcare professionals I know. I was always more afraid of being maimed than dying. I pray for all the people that took it. I hope there are placebos at play, I have several people that took only 1 J&J shot and did not even have a sore arm. Here is hoping.
This response was fascist, it was unconscionable to make people take an experiment. I hope there are prosecutions to the fullest extent. Civil rights should trump your emergency. Not everyone has the same health or risk profile. Making everyone do the same thing is not logical. Infants being vaccinated is not logical. Not simply vaccinating the old and frail exclusively with the experiment was not logical. Shutting down society and keeping people from every day germs was not logical. Every single country in the west doing the same thing in unison, not logical and not historically what happens. All the censored experts was a tell. It was obvious they were doing it for money. I just hope that was all and not the depopulation agenda. So far they made close to a trillion dollars. Do I believe people would band together to kill people for a trillion dollars, yes I do. I think they won’t stop unless they are stopped as well. The cost to them is too great. They will cover up and deny but it is already obvious these are killer vaccines and no one should take them.
The whole thing sounded like baloney to me from the beginning.
Also, I’m a revert Catholic, about 15 yrs now(came back at 51). I knew aborted fetal cells were involved, at least in the research phase. In my teens, I pushed my girlfriend to have an abortion. I am so sorry for what I did, and so grateful to be back in the graces of Holy Mother Church, that I will never knowingly utilize a product created from sacrificed babies. That alone was a deal killer for me.
Thank you Treepers, thank you Sundance.
It is good to know I’m not alone.