I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

I am a multi-boarded MD PhD and I am very wary of brand new medications that are put out on the market. I have seen many medications come and go over the years because of “newly discovered” side effects after their release. What clinched it for me was when congress immediately exempted themselves, the federal judiciary and the Postal service amongst others after they mandated it for everyone else.
This was such a despicable thing when they exempted themselves. How this didn’t wake everyone up was beyond me
I was 25 when Waco happened. I watched the whole thing on CNN. That Woke me up.
Once I saw ALL of the FILTHY LIBERALS, in Australlia, NZ, UK, etc, pushing the jab, I knew there was something wrong.
Why was my PM – Big Chief Spendy McBlackface Hairdo, harassing me to get an experimental Genetic Therapy Procedure?
I smelled a rat, then saw the 2 California doctors warning us. Then saw how they were cancelled.
I saw the Globalists attacking FELLOWSHIP after you pointed this out in your articles.
These MARXIST SOB’s need to be held to account. No Quarter…
LOL, “Big Chief Spendy McBlackface Hairdo”, am I to understand you’re not supportive of your current prime minister?
Trudeau is just an actor. The real ruler of Canada is the international banking cabal, via the WEF. Trudeau doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together.
My analytical side reviewed every claim the CDC spewed, quickly discovered CV19 rarely attacked O- blood type, and I did not know of any person with CV19, and my heavenly Father provided guidence and direction.
No jabs for me.
My favorite section of daily CTH is the Lord’s prayer, thank you Sundance.
Anything that is free to get at Albertsons is probably a bad deal.
Love this!
Husband and I did not participate in the mass injection program.
I practiced veterinary medicine for 33 years and never used a product or vaccine the first year it was offered unless there was an overwhelming, life threatening medical need.
The covid virus did not seem more dangerous to me than a seasonal flu.
I discussed the “veterinary” approach with my husband and asked him (sweetly) to acquiesce to my knowledge and opinion on this matter. He did.
We watched news updates and read as much as possible about covid. Both of us had retired fairly recently and were living a more isolated lifestyle. Exposure to others was infrequent.
There was no overwhelming, life threatening need.
I’m satisfied with our decision at this point in time .
Daughter and s-i-l were required by work to take it.
We haven’t lost relationships but do wonder if our time with injected friends and family may be unnaturally shortened. Dearest, oldest friend took the injection. One brother did, one didn’t. Sister has had 4 so far. She has been sick twice with positive tests.
If we were working I’m honestly not sure what we would have done. I was self employed but husband worked for the federal government. We were blessed to be in a favorable position/circumstance that made non compliance easier than for most.
We have followed the FLCCC protocol for the last 20 months, changing with it as new recommendations are published. Yes that includes the horse paste. I had covid antibodies at one point, husband hasn’t so far. Neither of us has taken the test.
My research now is looking for protocols and treatments for the spike protein.
I’m heartbroken for those who have died suddenly or unexpectedly, who took this injection in good faith or by implicit threat .
I have no time much less the heart for schadenfreude.
There was no overwhelming, life threatening need. There still isn’t.
Messenger RNA is the translator for the code contained within DNA. It is essential in creating proteins. The vaccine codes for the spike protein, the very pathogen the vaccine is supposed to protect you from. That makes me very cautious.
Previously, when they’ve tried this technology, the subjects became highly susceptible to variation instantiations of the original pathogen.
Science and technology, like pretty much everything else now, is drenched in politics.
I do not trust them to have my best interests in mind.
That said, my nieces and nephews have forbidden me from joining in any reindeer games. I have not seen any of them, in going on three years, and the family always gets together at Christmas, Thanksgiving, Birthdays, etc. My brother has given up trying to convince me to get vaccinated. My answer, as always, is absolute not.
In defense of those in my extended family, my niece’s son has a very rare disease that has crippled his immune system. For the record though, many of them have been infected, whereas I have never. Considering, and to my understanding, the majority of infections and deaths currently occurring are in the vaccinated, I wonder sometimes who really is the greater threat…
I do see my brother and sister in law, though.
In closing, and to repeat, I do not trust them.
I’m sorry this has caused detachment from your family. That really hurts. 🙁
I’m separated from my children too, so I understand what you’re experiencing. Take comfort that some day they may view you as a person of principle instead of a stubborn non-complier. As more data and studies emerge, pray they will begin to see the light. All we can do is our best and if they can’t accept you for what you are, then just find others who can. Hopefully time will heal the insanity that infected our society. God bless you man.
It was so obviously a scam right from the start that I continuously wonder why more people didn’t see it.
I did not take the shot. At age 73, healthy, taking no meds and no annual flu shots, I didn’t see the need.
It’s my nature that when in doubt, WAIT. This has served me well all my life. Also, when everyone seems to be going in one direction, I automatically go the other way. Another good practice.
I got COVID early on, took a dab of horse paste, body aches went away almost immediately, in bed with fatigue for 3 days. No big deal. I’m very grateful for my immune system.
Want the heck is horse paste ? Like udder cream? JK
You may be joking, but I’ll give a serious answer.
Horse paste is ivermectin in paste form with apple flavoring. It is sold as a dewormer for horses, available at Tractor Supply for about $10. One tube supplies several doses for humans. You can figure out the dose according to your weight.
I also obtained ivermectin tablets in Mexico where they are sold OTC. For some reason I prefer the horse paste. Maybe because I’ve always felt an affinity with horses, not so much people.
Ivermectin for horses (dewormer/antiparasitic you can buy at Tractor Supply) I keep it in my fridge just in case.
I didn’t take the jab and I had covid too early in 2021. I have had worse colds, flus and allergies. I really think I had covid in late 2019 and was wiped out for a few weeks, but we didn’t think anything of it then. All is well. Praise God didn’t take that bullet.
– Unsatisfied concerns about safety and refusal by any authorities to even discuss data accumulated in VAERS
– Lack of debate / discussion of any aspect of the pandemic and no leader anywhere standing up to call for openness… the whole thing was surreal. mRNA therapy was too new
– Safety trials did not include endpoints for prevention of illness, death, or prevention of spread… instead they changed the definition of vaccine
– Censorship destroyed all trust in the system
– Emergency powers were abused, by both left and right, and globally… the rancid smell of tyranny was in the air
– No scientific basis for masks… all 100% baloney… and I read the science… putting masks on kids was cruel in the extreme
– All the available “data” showed it was only the old and nearly dead at any real risk
– The data were a mess and used to incite fear rather than inform risk… the pandemic was a psychological terror campaign
– Sweden, Sweden, Sweden
– When they started forcing people to vax, that was my red line in the sand. Any decision to vax is mine and mine only… a fundamental human right… Nobody, family members included, would require or force me to vax. Take me to the gulag if you must.
Thanks! ✅✅✅
I am not a bandwagon type of person. Need to analyze all aspects. When this plea/demand was coming from the government, I felt there was something fishy.
There were just too many unknowns. I’d rather deal with the virus than inject something into my body that was not researched.
Simple, government said it was here to help me. I Walked away….
I did not get the vax because long-term testing was not complete. Then I started downloading and sorting the VAERS data every week and was shocked at what I was seeing. My wife snd I vowed never to get it. I subsequently retired 4 years early because my company mandated the vax.
I have a science degree and have worked in medical labs my entire life. I also provide direct patient care to hospitalized patients. But I did not get the mRNA vaccine for the following reasons.
1) Sars-Cov-2 is a coronavirus. No one has ever been able to develop a vaccine that is effective against a coronavirus. They mutate too fast. I was highly skeptical that this vaccine would work. It didn’t, every vaccinated person I know has had covid.
2) mRNA is a new techology that isn’t really a vaccine. Up to now no one was able to bring a successful mRNA product to market. One of the major problems was too many side effects. I was very concerned about side effects from this novel product.
3) No long term safety data. This incredibly fast rush violated every established rule for evaluating new vaccines. It normally takes 5-10 to get a product out. I incredibly concerned about the long term health affects. I would tell my coworkers “get back to me in 5 years and I might consider getting it”.
4) I could see from available data by April 2020 that for the overwhelming majority of people covid was not a dangerous illness. I knew so many people who had it and it was very minor. I was just not concerned about getting covid. And indeed, when I came down with covid- it was a minor 3 day cold.
I am extremely happy with my decision. The number of vaccinated people I see who are suffering strokes, heart attacks, blood clots, vasculitis, etc in the last 18 months is just shocking. I personally know at least 7 people who have suffered significant vaccine injury. It’s horrifying.
At the hospital where I work the pressure to get the vax was incredible. But about 25% of the staff refused and to my knowledge no one lost their job, couldn’t fire that many people. Lots of people got the shot because they coudn’t take the pressure. But in my case I literally didn’t care what anyone thought.
I felt the same way, and my company in the end couldn’t fire whole units that were refusing to take it. Of those they could fire, they couldn’t cover the shortages with traveling personnel. That resistance varied from region to region. They tried to isolate any resistors, and kind of got mobbed at a town hall about the vax, and basically ran off the virtual stage because it was getting rowdy and they didn’t know how to handle it.
Your points summarize well my own considerations when I decided against being “vaccinated.” Thanks.
It is morally inappropriate to force untested medicine onto people.
I researched the vaccines when they first came out and read about so many things that should have been red flags in the animal trials, including the trial animals dying. That along with seeing our government officials bribing, coercing and then forcing people to take them, and lying about the version that was authorized. Its felt like a real life version of The Twilight Zone.
My biggest change was quitting a volunteer job of several years when they started requiring masks and pushing vaccines. I quit and never went back.
Luckily my decision to remain unvaccinated has not effected my relationships long term. It did put a temporary halt on in-person visits with some family members at first, but they were nice about it and I was respectful of their decision. Now nobody seems to much care about vaccination status at least in social settings.
I have worked in biomed research and know how difficult it is to develop a new drug that is safe. I’m familiar with relevant history, such as how an RSV vaccine killed some kids, the STEP trial where more vaxx recipients got HIV than in the control arm, and how the scale of the Vioxx failure is much greater than appreciated. And how the whooping cough vaccine failure in 2010 or so was falsely blamed on unvaxxed religious communities and the unscientific public relations term “waning immunity.”
It’s very difficult to anticipate the long term consequences of taking a substance. By the time the COVID vaxxes were released, it was possible to calculate pretty well my risks of hospitalization, dying, or long term disability due to COVID and I decided I would rather take my chances with the virus than the vaxx.
Family and friends have been – and some still are – perplexed by my decision to skip the vaxxes but none excluded me for it.
Crazy they didn’t take any cues from a biomed research professional.
I had no intention of taking a novel “vaccine “, that had been developed so quickly. It made me suspicious. That was before I sought out information on it. Regarding friends and family, I only discuss it with those who are of like mind. It took no time to figure out that those who have taken it do not want to hear about the “side effects” much less sudden deaths. I guess I wouldn’t either if I were in their shoes. I’m 66 years old, healthy and active. I’ve had Covid and laid around for 1
day and had a nagging cough for several weeks. I don’t take flu shots and now that my eyes have been opened regarding big pharma and medical doctors, will never take any vaccine.
I did not take the vax. The whole thing seemed very contrived from the get-go. But I believe what helped my decision most actually was what happened 5 years prior to the ‘outbreak’. I saw how the media lied non-stop about Trump and how hard they pushed the Russia collusion delusion narrative. I removed all TVs from my home in 2015-2016 due to the networks blatant disregard for truth. I no longer believed anything coming from them. To be honest, I had always felt they were lying but by Aug 2015.. there was no doubt in my mind. So the fear they required to get people to agree to a jab was never an issue for me. I have a strong Faith and trust Jesus completely. This fact undoubtedly was what protected me thankfully but I am also grateful that God gave me the ability to ‘see’ clearly and to have the fortitude to withstand intense opposition from the world.
Several members of my family and some dear friends are vaxxed. I love each and every one and pray for their safety.
Hearing things early on like bat virus, wet markets, and then suspicion that this was not a naturally born virus yet one manufactured in a bio lab located in Wuhan China further made me uncomfortable. If the virus was not natural, then what is in this rushed therapeutic and experimental vaccine? I was 61 years old and in good health. I chose to ride it out. I got omicron in January 2022. My doctor was shocked I was not vaccinated and got over the infection quickly. It Felt like I had the flu for a couple of days. I’m glad I wasn’t dependent on a job that mandated the vaccine. Now with all the adverse reactions being reported, I’m glad I survived without taking the vaccine.
RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE! Timing and perception is everything. Motive is another.
It is easier to fool someone than convince them they are being fooled.
Why I didn’t get the Covid vaxseem:
I’ve never been one to go to the doctor unless I have to. But I have always been one to do research on alternative methods of healing and I’ve always been interested in following that kind of a path first. So when the experimental treatment gene therapy came along I didn’t trust it and I instead chose to get some cinchona bark from Penn Herbs and made my own tonic water to get some quinine in my system. I drank it every day with my zinc and my vitamin C and my iodine drops and my B12 etc. I went to Tractor Supply and got some ivermectin to have on hand if I got sick. I made homemade hand sanitizer. I have never regretted going this route and I wouldn’t take the shot unless they tied me up like they’re doing in Brazil in the Gulag
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I’m a bridge player. I’ve been a tournament player for years. I love going to tournaments and playing at the local club. I’ve made friends all over the country having this lifestyle. It’s been a huge part of my social life since I was 18 years old.
I moved to Florida 7 years ago to a town with one of the largest clubs in the nation because I figured I could always have a place to play bridge as long as I live. They shut the club and all tournaments down for Covid and have opened back up for vaccinated players ONLY. One person who wasn’t vaccinated went to the club here in town and subsequently got the Covid. They made a huge example out of him and told him never to come back. So I have been unable to go to the local club which was my home away from home since March 2020. There is another club in town that doesn’t advertise that they don’t allow unvaccinated people to be in their midst. I went there and they asked me never to come back because they heard I wasn’t vaccinated. So I have been exiled from my favorite pastime probably for the rest of my life because of my choice.
I went to an Anglican church in town faithfully for five years until Covid. When it opened back up wearing masks and social distancing I went. For several months. I can’t remember what the date was when I quit but I looked around at the people of God wearing masks and not touching each other. Then they said we will open up the coffee hour area so that you can have coffee but you cannot sit with anybody to drink it. I just shook my head at the priest and walked out and I haven’t been back. I felt like God did not give us the spirit of fear and these people were supposed to represent God and instead they were representing the spirit of fear. Maybe too judgmental on my part but I couldn’t help the anger I felt towards their inability to be a real witness.
i’m from a large family, 11 children living. 4 of us took the jab and 7 did not. Kind of interesting that most stuck together. The one who took it think the rest of us are crazy but they still allow us to congregate with them which is nice.
I guess I could say I’ve lost a lot of friends but I don’t think it’s just the shot. I think it’s a combination of the shot and politics. I just have less patience for shutting my mouth. People don’t like you to go against their way of thinking so they stay away. And that’s OK.
Did not and will not take vax. Sought info, researched, and made an informed decision. No friends or family lost. I didn’t raise conformist children,nor did they. And I don’t tend to associate with many who are. No flu shots ever. Got Covid from caring for a child…wasn’t much for me except fatigue and aches. I was supposedly high risk. Way too much panic porn preceded the “Covid mania”….
No vax here. Too many unknowns. Redefinition of vaccine. Too many folks getting cancelled, message suppressed and outright SILENCED.
Too much hype.
Work for a Fortune50 company with ties to Wuhan. The whole thing stunk from the first.
Wife was hospitalized with all the symptoms in late September 2019 with all the same symptoms. I got it the next day. It was scary and before anyone knew what it was. I knew we had had it but no way to prove. It was a very bad flu when the wife and I got it. Took about four weeks to recover.
We just did not buy it. They were selling so hard. It was tough having wife’s parents,then, my Dad and stepmom be totally for it and pushing us to get it.
My Company did a vax mandate and it took 6 appeals(3 1/2 months)for my religious exemption to be approved. Most stressful process I’ve ever gone through not knowing if I’d have a job. Working my ass off from home supporting 7 divisions of my company that were not able not able to work, therefore, all during Covid we were on a guaranteed commission so as to support the divisions that were shut down. Really messed up stuff.
Countless bans on Facebook for posting links and info and finally totally permanently removed from FB for no reason and with no recourse or explanation.
Watching the Twitter bans. Your tube bans. Americas Frontline Doctors, Dr Ryan Coles’MyFreeDoctor.com and the White Coat summit that was quickly silenced. We got out HCQ and IVM from the first 2 above. Watching the facts be continually fact checked was surreal.
Looking
Forward to spending some time reading others comments and comparing notes. Good idea 💡 SD.
I’ve been cautious about taking new treatments for many years. When Viagra was approved, and older men were dropping dead after sex, a friend married to a PhD. in Pharmaceutics told me her husband told her that clinical trials were good as far as they went, but the real test of a new drug was when it gets out into the general population and is taken by a large number and variety of people. I took that statement to heart, and decided that I’d wait at least a year before taking the jab. After a year, I’d read so much by Robert Malone, Peter McCollough and America’s Frontline Doctors, I knew that I’d never willingly take it. Being retired, the government had no leverage over me to make me take it. I’ve willingly given up my European vacations, and anything that requires proof of “vaccination.” Luckily, I’ve had two surgeries since the COVID panic broke out, and the hospital didn’t require the jab. If they had, I wouldn’t have had the surgeries.
I didn’t take the shot because:
I found extremely informative links here at CTH.
Links that provided me the information I needed to come to the conclusion that the potential dangers of the “vaccine” outweighed any benefit that I might derive from it.
I am old, so I had to weigh that factor in as well.
I can’t express how grateful I am to the people at CTH for the wealth of information that they provide on a daily basis.
Thank you all and God Bless.
For over 25 years I have been researching health/nutrition and came to the conclusion years ago that the medical establishment mostly causes harm. Emergency care and sometimes diagnosing is where they help the most. It has become big business and has nothing to do with health. It is disease care. I am 57 and haven’t been to a medical doctor for over 20 years.
Never got covid or any other virus and never wore a mask. Continued living as normal trying to ignore all the craziness.
I have been expecting something like this to happen for over 15 years and was not surprised at all. The day they started hyping the virus, I knew that a vaccine would be pushed as the answer. No mention of health at all. So many natural remedies could have been recommended. Just inexpensive vitamin D would have helped so many people with not only the virus but many other health problems. It is very hard to know all of this and watch what happened.
My skepticism of the government/corporate/intelligence complex started way back with the first gulf war, then NAFTA, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 911, patriot act etc… Nothing is organic, including the 2008 stock market crash. I started following the blogs on the global warming scam in the early 2000’s due to the obvious pseudoscience they were pushing and quickly became a climate heretic. I worked in science at a University for my entire career. I research everything now. Distrust is strong in this one.
I was pre-primed for the covid con. My BS meter went red-line immediately. I butted heads with my boss who told me to abandon our field research for the year, but I defied, I worked throughout 2020, saving our many experiments. It was like an apocalypse hit, the University and town were empty of people, no cars, no stores open, no life. I was told to wear a mask at the University, I did not. Eventually, I couldn’t stand the recriminations, and Karens and looks and so I retired at the end of the year, because I could… a couple years early for me. When the jabs were pushed on the scene in 2021 and the relentless propaganda ensued, red flags everywhere, it was a no brainer that I would never get the jab. What little trust I had in authority is completely shattered.
I don’t believe anything that is pushed as “benevolent” by the lying anti-american media which is controlled by the globalist fascist Council On Foreign Relations.
I want to live and I trust my God to care for me, especially when the government is making it mandatory. I Didn’t trust the research. I still want to know why there is so much Autism….I doubt everything. Then my brother got clots, nearly died. Two friend got Brian cancer.(could be a coincidence but they are young) Missionary friend lost limbs to clots. A young man dropped dead in the shower less than 24 hours after. Shall I go on. I am an unemployed nurse so i may never return with mandatory vaccines.
wary of any meds, especially new, untested ones. One news report early on said all the little animals died. No jab for me, call it a gut feeling after much research. Got covid (multi risk person) Week and a half hospitalized. THey didn’t like me because I refused a lot of things. Still feel it was a good decision and even more glad that I refused.
Hepatitis B Vaccine killed my infant daughter but I didn’t realize that is what killed her at the time. So moronically I vaccinated my next son until the MMR vaccine disabled him for life. Over my dead body will me or my children take another one. Sadly if my son hadn’t been injured we all would have been right there lining up for the poison along with everyone else. His sacrifice likely saved us all. I look forward to seeing him whole again one day.
I’m sorry for the pain that has been injected into your life. Best wishes to you and your children.
It is quite simple why people here did not take the vax. Conservative free thinkers are not sheep. They think for themselves. If Governments or people who think they have authority over us, tell us to do something, we are immediately suspicious and want to find out why. We found out why and we put 2 and 2 together. That’s why we are not sheep.
The rushed nature of the vaccine development was a first red flag for me including the manipulated timing of announcing trial results. Then, as anecdotal information about side effects appeared (from the trials), I sought to educate myself. I have MS, and it has been stable for more than 15 years. Doing anything that would stir up my immune system bothered me.
When the first doctors were coming up with treatments for COVID but were marginalized, that was it. I didn’t care that my neurologist said there was no evidence of the jabs doing anything adverse to MS patients. I felt I was being herded like cattle. Every authority saying the same thing. Dissent was being squelched. No way was I getting the shots.
I couldn’t convince my wife to do the same. Her doctor toed the party line. I got the feeling my ability to travel and do the things I normally count on was going to be curtailed. It bothered me but not enough to change my mind. I become more attentive to the dissenting doctors, the RFK Jr.’s and like-minded individuals. Their arguments are more convincing.
I had doubts that I was taking unnecessary risks by bypassing the jabs because of my age and general health. As the story of safe and effective began taking on water and the narrative changed, I’ve never felt more empowered about taking responsibility for my own health. I feel so much more informed than ever, spending much of my spare time trying to learn more about what ails me with less dependence on doctors.
Thankfully, my wife has experienced no side effects that we can detect in the nearly two years since the 2-shot Pfizer series. But, she is not going to take any boosters. My extended family (about half vaccinated) has been free of side effects that we know of. I wish I could say the same about friends. I lost my best friend a year ago. Others have ills that are sketchy in their timing. I can only pray that there is no more carnage.
In their great effort to manage vaccine hesitancy, they’ve made me question every pharmaceutical intervention I’ve ever taken or am now on. Sorry, no more flu shots, no more vaccinations of any kind until I’m convinced of their individual safety and efficacy. The FDA’s word is no longer good enough. Now, I must scrutinize each drug I am taking.
I was flipped out from the first mask I saw (are we CHINA? I thought to myself) and the first shutdown to “flatten the curve” (you can’t SHUT DOWN the United States of America! I thought to myself), and so I was already on high alert when the “vaccine” chatter began. I learned enough right away to know the “vaccine” could be no such thing, because to my knowledge, vaccines are built with some aspect of the pathogen they are designed to immunize against. Since we had no clue (presumably) what the virus was or where it originated, we obviously couldn’t build a vaccine to immunize against it. I knew in my gut that whatever they were building at Warp Speed wasn’t as advertised.
I spent my time trying to learn how to TREAT the VIRUS, as had always been done with every other ailment in my lifetime, and subsequently trying to locate and purchase the remedies I’d learned about. When not doing that, I spent my time dumbstruck that everyone I knew, and everyone around me was just following all the edicts like a bunch of damned sheep.
I’ll never get over the last 3 years, and not because of COVID (I got Omicron, and got over it easily with an ivermectin ++ protocol), and certainly not because of the poison shots I will NEVER take, but because the world as I thought I understood it no longer exists.
I share your righteous anger completely.
Was anti-vax prior to COVID. Saw the psyop from the early days. Said heck no to masks and the whole charade.
I’ll keep it short: Decided to watch and wait. The more I waited and read, the less likely I was to get jabbed. A doctor literally screaming at me to get the jab was the last straw. At a dinner party in Dec 2021 with 12 friends of 20+ years I was the only unjabbed one there. No one wanted to sit beside me. I’m lucky though because I did not lose a job or permanently lose friends.
First, I read everything I could about the Corona Virus. Then coupled with the fact that we weren’t seeing bodies stacked like cord word and homeless populations thriving without being locked down or isolated, we decided to go about living our lives as we always had. Disregarded all the state directives as much as possible. Ignored all the scare porn from the FDA, CDC and Frankenfauchi being pushed by the propaganda parrot media. Add to that all the places that weren’t shut down because they were essential (liquor stores for example) pretty much clinched it.
Experimental Messenger RNA Gene Therapy. Nope! Got to redefine what a vaccine is several times? Nope! The patent is not for a vaccine. So again, NOPE!
I will continue to advocate for crimes against humanity for any and all who pushed this on the world population when there were already therapies and drugs that would have saved lives without subjecting humanity to a therapy which will prove deadly in the long run. I continue to pray that God delivers them the justice they deserve while they still live. The world deserves to see them pay for their crimes.
We both got corona at least once, and while it was rough, we used vitamins, good old fashioned common sense and let our immune systems do their job.
I have said this recently and I will say it again: while friends, family and co-workers have shunned us and declared all of us a danger to them, I will always look at them with pity. They were broken emotionally and mentally to some extent before the scamdemic. The propaganda from the government finished the job. They’re the ones still living their lives in fear. Wearing a useless mask, poisoning their bodies and still believing the lie, when the truth is all around them.
My wife’s sister was scared to death. She was making her husband undress and sanitize when he came home from work. She then came up to spend the summer with us. While she was scared at first, watching us go about our days without fear, and talking to me and letting me explain the real science about the virus and our immune systems, and seeing me go out to every day to the stores, and my wife taking her for rides to see the coast she began to realize that she was being played.
The light on the hill…Bless you.
Everybody is immune to knowing my immune system, but me.
Early on, I saw estimates that it would kill probably one in a thousand and those elderly. I compared that figure with the Black Death which was est 50 percent of the population. Also Spanish flu estimate was 1 to 2% of population. (No one really knows for sure).
I figured my odds were good at 75 so I made my decision on purely mathematical odds. I was feeling lucky that day!
As for my family they all got the clot shot and all got Covid afterwards, plus 2 got shingles, one (83) died from blood clots which caused pneumonia then stroke, one (60) dropped dead from heart attack.
I was asked to take a test before family Christmas gathering but I decided quietly not to turn up. I stopped mentioning it and gradually some (most) have realised their danger.
I don’t mention it any more I believe it is cruel and pointless to rub it in.
I pray for them all every day, especially my only son and only grandchild.
On the plus side, all my friends except two, did not get the shot which gradually they revealed to me as everyone was “undercover” because of the vitriol.
I was pleasantly surprised that I was such a good selector of friends (or maybe they selected me).
There were many reasons my family did not get the clot shot.
One is a long standing distrust of the government and the media.
The pandemic seemed strange to me right off the bat.
Tom Cotton was trying to bring attention to the virus while the democrats were trying to impeach Trump. No one would listen to him. The lockdowns did not make sense. I knew that they were delaying herd immunity by preventing us from socializing. The mask mandates were a joke also.
I was a pharma rep for over 25 years and my wife is a APN. We started doing our research. I hear the horror stories of incompetence in the medical community from her all the time.
We were seeing contradicting information on the CDC website from the official narrative. I was asked to leave a clinic one day when I tried to show a APN information on the CDC website that was different than what we were being told and what he was trying to convince me of. He told me his patients were dying. Meanwhile, a APN next door was saving her patients with ivermectin and hydrooxychlorquine. This was all before the gene therapy shots had been introduced.
I also quizzed a surgeon to the point he finally threw his hands in the air and admitted “they don’t know”. They think they are so superior with their medical degrees. But I can read and think for myself. I kept countering him with facts that he couldn’t counter back. I have become very distrustful of the medical community. Covid was the final straw for me.
I also started following Dr. Robert Malone.
In a nutshell, I did my research through many different sources and made an educated decision. Ironically, the CDC website provided good information for me. It’s amazing to me that most news organizations ever looked at the site for information. They just listened to Fauci.
From the get go with Covid I thought the whole story was not being told by our govt. When PTrump started talking about warp speed and hurried vaccines, my spidey sense activated. I just could not feel comfortable with a rushed vaccine as I had my reservations of all vaccines in the first place. Not anti vax, just cautious vax. To me, they were becoming, over the last 50 years or so, complete automatic money machines for pharma. This Covid vax was a new moneymaker which they could put into play without the usual long term studies etc., because DC gave them that right due to the so called pandemic.
Then I started researching what the vax is made up of. mRNA and fetal cell lines etc. My gut said to stay away especially after I saw the stats on what Covid was all about. So, decided no shots for me.
I am a pure blood! I sincerely believe our blood will be needed to save family members who did take the jab-just hope the gov’t doesn’t force us to save everyone else who got in our faces, accused us of wanting to kill our fellow Americans, called us traitors and a bunch of other names, kept us from dining out and encouraged violence against us.
We had covid end of November 2019 and it took until mid-January for the cough to go away, after two weeks of doxycycline. ..after they couldn’t figure out what it was.
My mom was a nurse for 55 years, taught me everything I know about immunity, and when she acted like everything I said was disinformation, I wanted to scream. She called me a super spreader and then cried about how worried she was that I would get Covid and die. ‘You don’t know you had covid!’
Mom had to have her leg artery cleaned out-in less than a month, the stent was clogged. No sense in getting the other leg done. Both initial jabs and 3 boosters. I begged her not to get the most recent (4th) but I think she did, even after my plea. I showed her the scar on my left shoulder-remember, this mark KEPT me from getting those awful childhood diseases. I then cried about how worried I am about the blood clots she’s obviously growing and that I blame the jab.
The systematic dismantling of our way of life started with Maryland Gov Larry Hogan, president of the Governor’s Association, smugly proclaiming 14 days to flatten the curve, paving the way for the authoritative take-over.
Remember Agenda 21? It’s now Agenda 2030.
I refused to patronize (even curb side) any business who demanded vax proof for entry and still don’t to this day. I specifically ordered groceries online because I would not wear a mask.
I did not wear a mask at my business (indoor sports center) and if I had to enter a building that required a mask, I used a plastic shield that only covered my mouth and nose and open all around and I could breathe all those wonderful germs and beef up my immune system.
I threw out the health department from my business-she came in to investigate an anonymous complaint about someone not wearing a mask-it was me, I asked her for her warrant, which she did not have. I reminded her everyone in my buildings have the 4th and 6th Constitutional rights and if she didn’t leave, I would physically remove her.
The sheriff backed me up.
I always take the road less traveled, unfortunately, those too afraid to travel themselves want to pull you off the road, criticize you for taking that road and call you names. Sticks and stones baby!!!!!!!!!!!
Call me Pure Blood, call me a conspiracy theorist, tin-hat wearing I’m not buying your BS, America-loving patriot.
Think, McFly!
Neither my husband or I took the jab. We are both over 65 & in good health. Take no medications. I walk 6 miles every day.
Nothing about the Covid protocols made any sense!
We were not going to take a shot, wear a mask or stay home. We simply trusted God.
Thankfully our children & grandchildren were in complete support.
You are my density…
You are no more “pure” than anybody else. The “holier than thou” strain I see here is really unattractive.
The “holier than thou” vibe you detect from many of the non-jabbed is probably in part a response to the way they’ve been bashed over the head from all sides for 3 years. Turns out they were right all along, and countless numbers of them paid a heavy price. I’d give them some runway, just as we’re expected to do for people who were duped or forced into getting jabbed.
They don’t mean ‘pure’ in a moral sense, they mean ‘pure’ as in not tainted by some transhumanist, luciferian concoction. I’m not even a Christian and I think the jabs are clearly satanic. So yes, they are perfectly well justified in using that term.
It’s just unfortunate that the term ‘pure blood’ took off more than ‘non-GMO.The latter resonates with people who are worried about tainted food – a pretty big spread of folks. And, since most of your garden variety libs, Dems, progressives or whatever they call themselves this week associate ‘pure blood’ language with Nazi Aryan supremacy stuff (which they think constitutes your garden variety Republican or conservative) the term becomes offensive to them.
I am 99.9 % positive I got Covid before it was named, in Dec.2019. I was extremely sick. After the symptoms came out I looked back and thought, yes- that is what I had. Right after that time, as I was getting back to work, an employee I worked with introduced me to The Conservative Treehouse. I crossed into other sites and I woke up to the unpleasant reality of just how brutally corrupt our government is. When the big jab push came and incentives were being offered; I really woke up! Sadly my two millennial children both received the jab, as well as one granddaughter. My hope is that they received saline; but only God knows. So far no negative reactions.
There were friends that tried to convince my husband and I that we were wrong for not wanting to “protect” others. Sadly while some relationships were not destroyed, they have remained strained. Same with some family interactions.
Of all the hot button issues that have been tried, to separate and divide people, I believe this one worked the best. I wish no harm on anyone who got jabbed, but I do wonder how the next few years are going to play out and how many deaths and serious side effects are going to strike those that succumbed to the pressure and fear. I pray those responsible for this virus and the jab that was suppose to protect us from the virus they created, will be appropriately judged by God. His judgement truly is the one that counts.
Liberals / Leftists tend to offload their thinking / reasoning to some ‘expert’. Conservatives tend to think more for themselves and look for data. Not getting the jab was super easy decision for me. I’d been tracking closely the VAERS data since Feb. ’20 and became convinced it was all a scam by June/July. Sent off to India to source HCQ / ivermectin and pitched the jab. Too many dead test animals with zero successful corona virus vaxes to date. Made no sense to take the risk, especially after my entire family came down with C-19 very early on before the jab was available.
20+ years in the fire dept: never took hep B vaccine or flu shot either. No need.
Never wore a mask either. I promoted to Fire Capt on the Haz Mat team. Never once did I tell my guys to make entry into a potential biological harmful area wearing either a surgical mask or T-shirt over their mouth.
I flew in July 2020 and didn’t wear ask mask (medical reasons). I (and my wife and son) was literally the only person on the plane or in the airport without a mask (and didn’t even get sick). You shouldn’t seen the looks I got, some lady even didn’t want to sit in the seats behind us because we didn’t have masks on, lol.
Long story shortish. I started reading Prevention magazine in the early 70’s, when it did not run ads from big pharm and seemed to be a real advocate for a holistic approach to personal health. I gave up sugar as a result as well as moderating other potentially harmful habits. I met my wife in 1975 and we were both in the same page.
We are both in our 70’s now. I have never had a flu or any other shot after the mandatory childhood stuff. My wife took a flu shot several years ago, got pretty sick and vowed to never take one again. Thankfully we are both in excellent health.
The whole rollout of the scamdemic, the fixed election (2020) and then the clot shot stank to holy hell. My wife is retired and I have always worked from home so we were not subjected to the same workplace pressures that younger people were. We reviewed available information from what we considered to be trustworthy sources: Robert Kennedy Jr., Drs. Malone & Mikovits et al, and came to the conclusion that there was no compelling reason to subject ourselves to an experimental treatment.
We both contracted covid a year ago, were pretty sick and survived it at home and now have an abundance of antibodies according to recent blood tests. We held our ground and never regretted our decision. The bitter/sweet result has been watching young, healthy people dropping on almost a daily basis. We are confident we did the right thing but are saddened by the gullible victims that were swayed by unreliable opinions, even from their doctors.
I have many friends and family who have had multiple shots and boosters and we have a sort of détente. I don’t give them reason to doubt their decision but hope and pray it does not come back to haunt them. And they hope and pray we are not victims due to our intransigence. But with each day more admissions are coming to light that only fortify our decision not only to reject this assault but any others that may present themselves down the road.
Thanks for soliciting our anecdotes. I am reading everyone else’s too.
You can’t say they were gullible. It’s a crap shoot and we just don’t know what the risks are. The shots demonstrably mitigated a ton of health problems and death from the high risk groups. Anyone under 55 shouldn’t get a shot imho unless they have bad health.
At 70, idk maybe in perfect health you could get away with it, but I think you really were gambling there. Would you have done the same at 80 where the risks are exponentially higher?
re: “It’s a crap shoot and we just don’t know what the risks are.”
What? At this late date? Awwww ….
The survival rate for covid-19 for people in the oldest age quadrant is better than 97%. I will take those odds (it’s my age group).
Is it really just a crap shoot? If you know the local casino has a habit of lying to its customers, rigging games, etc, do you even play craps to begin with? That’s the problem. The USG and the big pharma corps have a history of lying, rigging data, releasing drugs that turn out later to be dangerous, etc. The MRNA tech has a history of failure, while the data from Italy indicated that pretty much only 82+ year olds were at risk.
If you think that is a ‘crap shoot’, it’s your prerogative. I call it a game that you walk away from.
Just for laughs, ask your Dr. to see the pamphlet that accompanies the slab jab. IT IS TOTALLY BLANK! My doctor, who is dead set against the vax showed me the “literature.” Scary, no?
I breed dogs.
I learned a long time ago never to give my dogs any medicine that hadn’t been on the market a good 5 years. To do otherwise was to make your dogs guinea pigs.
I love my dogs too much to do that to them.
So when these vaccines came out, I applied the same rule. Guess I was right all these years, eh?
A lot of people might have benefited from that line of thought. Some treat their pets better than themselves.
Which means, IVM and HCQ are allowable (and valid) treatments … yes!
One of my first thoughts when I was reading information about mRNA vaccine research was that if it were “safe and effective,” we’d be using it already to vaccinate animals. But we aren’t.
I’m a healthy 52 year old woman, very active, no diabetes or weight issues , I was never concerned that I’d be at risk for severe disease.
I didn’t want to be in the experimental group. I chose control group.
2 reasons I stayed in the control group
1- the hysterical lies, gaslighting, manipulative behavior and intrusive motives of the pro vaxx crowd
2- China, worlds largest country, who created the virus (they know exactly where it came from and how) never used an mRNA vaccine.
US created it, china may have deployed it, but I think US did it, maybe in collaboration with china.
I agree
World Economic Forum globalists probably did. They are meeting now in Davos Switzerland.
I got the first two jabs of the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ in May 2021 on the advice of long-time personal acquaintances who worked in health care in medical healthcare statistics. Before getting jabbed, I had been exposed to any number of COVID infected people over the previous year and hadn’t caught it.
Within two weeks of the second shot, blood spots appeared on the surface of both of my retinas. Something I had never experienced before. I then began to dig into the information that was then becoming more readily available to those who took the time and effort to look for it. I realized very quickly that I’d made a big mistake in trusting the advice of the heathcare statisticians.
After a few months passed, I also came to understand that what was being called a ‘vaccine’ wasn’t really a vaccine in any traditional sense of the word. More than that, it was apparent in the summer of 2021 that the virus was mutating at rate which was faster than any vaccine of any kind could ever cope with; that any boosters would be just as dangerous and just as ineffective as the originals; and that the CDC , the mainstream medical establishment, and the mainstream media were all lying their asses off up one side and down the other in promoting the mRNA vaccines.
By the end of the summer of 2021, I was saying as much to friends who were adamant that the vaccines were necessary to fight the pandemic, and that I should get the boosters whenever these were being offered. All of these people have had all of the subsequent boosters. And all of them, every single one of them, caught the virus anyway.
One of them my age quickly developed macular degeneration in one eye after taking the first two jabs in the summer of 2021, a problem not seen in any of his ancestors, his siblings, or his other close relatives. He took the boosters anyway in spite of my own advice that the vaccines were capable of causing exactly the kind of problem he was suffering from.
My policy is not to say ‘I told you so’ to all of my friends and relatives who were strongly pushing the mRNA vaccines and who either got the infection anyway and/or whose health was damaged in some way by the vaccines. What has happened to these people tells its own story far more convincingly than I myself could tell it.
re: “I’d made a big mistake in trusting the advice of the heathcare statisticians.”
THERE is the key right there; Statisticians have NO medical skill in diagnoses or recognition of medical issues (not that any given doctor might) BUT stats are just ‘roulette’ in a different form.
Statisticians? Ask ANY actuarial what the percentage increase in “sudden, unexpected deaths is” sit down first!