I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

I worked in clinical research. Between 2007 and 2019 I truly believed in CRO’s and trusted the FDA. I went thru many trials myself, including the Linzess IBS trials that brought the med to market. A life changing event for me. I never ever had a single bad effect from any trial. This one was different. Knowing the protocols of genuine trials, I saw none of this being followed. This was a huge red flag. The more I read, the less I wanted to partake. My gut was screaming NO and I listened to it.
1.) I’m 52 yo and a stroke survivor, I didn’t take it because I’ve always been allergic to vaccines. Always had to get a doctor note to attend school. When I didn’t bring a doctor note to boot camp, I wound up in the hospital for four days.
2.) my wife took one dose so she could go to work-with it being a new medicine and being under emergency authorization I decided not to take it in case she had side effects (I’m glad she only got one dose)
I don’t buy cars or computers or other stuff in the first year of it being sold because I want them to work out the bugs.
guess I’m weird.
You are not weird! I’m the same. I always wait for the next model with any new tech. Meds included.
Neither my husband nor I were vaccinated (we’re in our 70s). I have a medical/pharmaceutical background, and so sensed there was something wrong with the mRNA shots from the beginning. It was not logical to turn one’s body into a manufacturing plant for the gain of function, dangerous spike protein that causes the immune system to attack one’s own cells. Also, the suppression of early treatment protocols went against what doctors have always tried to do for their patients. I communicated via emails to a group of like-minded family and friends to educate them on the prevention and treatment recommendations from the FLCCC and others.
We were shunned by some close relatives, but most have come around as time passed. It was painful, but we stood firm. Neither of us ever contracted COVID – even though we traveled across the country in our RV and were in multiple gatherings where others became ill afterwards.
I once endured a 15 minute tirade by a physician I previously trusted – for every study he cited, I cited another. He was infuriated by my refusal to comply. His parting words were that Ivermectin would kill me! We decided to live the best life we could, not letting the mandates and restrictions stop us.
My husband and I did not trust the whole “Pandemic” story from the very beginning. We were in New Orleans celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary in February of 2020 when word of the virus broke out. When it was announced that older vulnerable people were more at risk and we should stay away from our kids and grandkids, I was very suspicious they were targeting old people on purpose – especially when they prioritized old people to get the first jabs. I didn’t buy the story of masks, social distancing, or shutting down businesses. The more they pushed, the more I said “No way!” Aside from that, I could not understand why I should take 100% of the risk of an experimental drug for a virus that I had a 98% chance of surviving.
I am an asthmatic and am so glad that I did not get the shot. I am also very glad that I didn’t require a hospital visit for an asthma attack in 2020. Surely it would have been called COVID and perhaps I would be told to go home until my breathing got worse. That’s what happened to some people from our retirement community.
Most people in our Florida retirement community got at least the first shots. Many got the shots because they thought they were protecting their kids and grandkids. Many from our community, including family members, thought we were crazy for not taking the jabs. Some in our community have told us to stay away from them – like we have the cooties. I would say almost all of the people that got the jabs got COVID in our community.
I never did get COVID. My husband got COVID (Delta version) and he took monoclonal treatment. We regularly take nutrients (Zinc, D3, C, and quercetin to name a few). We also have a nebulizer handy for breathing treatments.
I put my faith in God and pray every day to get us through this mess.
I used to take flu shots annually, not now. I researched this mRNA vaccine and against daily pressure from friends I made my no jab choice. The government’s desire for me to be jabbed no doubt contributed to my NO decision. I take lots of supplements.
When Covid came out, I received calls from 3 doctors saying I’d die if I got it. I have survived an inoperable brain tumor for 22 years & my primary care doc, neurologist and pulmonologist were highly concerned. I did a lot of research to stay on top of the information game. I chose early on who I trusted and whom I had no trust in at all; most distrusted were Fauci and Birx.
The point I couldn’t get past when it came to the jab was the notion this “medicine” had zero studies to back its efficacy and zero information on what was in them. As I already lost all faith and trust in governmental mouthpieces, I knew based on my experience in the last 2 decades just how much medicine had changed and that my trust was broken before this even began. Thanks to the advent of socialized Obamacare (which made everything that occurred w/ the pandemic possible), medical staff now answer to corporate/socialized medical entities and possess little autonomy to make decisions on my health. When it seemed everyone was screaming to get the jab, I just kept thinking if they pushed less, they might succeed more – the pushing turned me off. It didn’t help that the “rules for thee but not for me,” occurred way too frequently, too!! The ones pushing contradicted themselves and they all sounded like liars by then to me.
I have not trusted one thing evil other than what I and trusted friends find to share so we all stay healthy. (I also secured the correct meds outside this county’s confiscations!!)
No I did not. And I am the only one in my circle that didn’t. I did not take it because I did my research. It is experimental. I am a healthy 63 year old. Also the most important factor is I prayed about it and The Holy Spirit told me NO.
Homework never fails to shine a light on people’s motives.
1. Long standing, strong and permanent distrust of government
2. Early indications the disease was overblown
3. Confidence in my health
4. Massive personal informed skepticism about rushing a “vaccine” to market
5. Early warnings from several sources
6. Respect for myself and my body
Resistance was solidified by:
1. Ruthless professional suppression of alternative treatments
2. Massive and ruthless suppression of alternative views or even questions
3. Copious evidence of an alternative agenda
4. 98.5% survival rate
5. I spite of 4 above, some countries rounding people up into camps
6. CENSORSHIP IS ALWAYS A DEAD GIVEAWAY THAT TYRANNY IS AFOOT. ALWAYS.
Excellent presentation!
Amen.
Husband was a doctor, I am a researcher. We looked at trend is our world in data, read research on the origins of sars-cov2 on pubmed (bat studies from 2015), and determined something was very wrong with the whole thing. We were sceptical and decided to hold off. Turned out that was the right choice.
Heck, early in 2020 in vitro studies showed several different ‘medicines’/compounds, treatments were effective … don’t ppl like Fauci and the CDC rad their OWN research materials?
It was pretty much a no-brainer for me. When our totally corrupt government was so insistent that everyone get jabbed and their so-called logic made no sense, I knew without a doubt the only way I was going to give in was when I was laying on a metal slab with a tag hanging from my big toe. Only one in my office who refused, so I just decided to retire. Best decision I ever made!
I’m a celiac and very sensitive to chemicals . . . ALL chemicals. Getting any kind of vaccine would be a disaster for me. I’d rather be ostracized, locked out, banned and whatever else comes with being unvaccinated than take the chance. Due to all the research and results I’ve seen on the mRNA vaccine, there’s no way I would ever take the chance.
On the flip side, spouse and I are taking D3, K2, A, Quercetin, zinc, etc. to avoid having any large issues with any of the viruses and their bastardized step children. We both got COVID and other than losing our sense of taste for a couple days and not having much energy it was no big deal. Our son and his SO have been here with colds and we don’t catch them or don’t notice if we do.
Preventative care is always best.
I didn’t get the gene therapy. Things just didn’t seem right. I don’t have a problem with real vaccines. Heck, I’ve been vaxxed for anthrax, small pox and Japanese equine encephalitis. I wasn’t able to talk the rest of my family out of getting the first 2 shots but they haven’t and won’t get any more of them.
I also worked for a conservative state government that didn’t push the mandate. I just kept my head down and dealt with the few senior managers that wanted to play woke about it.
I’ve been infected by the virus 3 times so far. August 2019, January 2022 and December 2022. I didn’t know what it was the first time and am embarrassed it took me as long as it did to figure it out. It only cost my insurance company about $750,000 – after my younger son collapsed in August 2019 with what I can now see was a bad case of it the bug. He was in a wheelchair for 6 months. It hit him hard because he had an unknown co-morbidity at the time; Hodgkins Lymphoma that started in his thymus gland and took out his immune system. He’s beaten that thankfully, but I just wish he could stand up without his blood pressure bottoming out or the rest of the long haul symptoms.
Check with Dr. McCullough Long Covid Relief Package– The Wellness Company (twc.health) https://www.twc.health/pages/long-covid-relief-package
I understand the usefulness of vaccines for diseases causing high mortality. However, I never took any of the previous flu vaccines because I didn’t consider them useful or worthwhile, just people trying to use them for convenience. Only a chance I would end up getting the flu, and if I did, I’d get to stay home and catch up on some reading. Trust me, if I saw that Covid 19 had the mortality of small pox or bubonic plague, I’d be racing you to the vaccine (might even trip you 🙂 But there were so many red flags about the hype and outright lying from the start. When I saw the mortality statistics associated with COVID-19 as early as the Diamond Princess cruise ship, I realized that I was not at substantial risk to COVID-19 death or hospitalization, just as the vast majority of people. (I was 57 without any morbidity factors.) Decades and centuries of knowledge were tossed aside: Focus on the vulnerable, letting the bulk of healthy people get herd immunity, the strength of natural immunity, the size of the virus vs any mask, the use of vitamin D, sunlight, exercise. Watching the politization of the democratic party, medical agencies, and most govt agencies.
I live in Fort Worth, Texas. I never once limited my activities during the shutdown, went shopping, take out food, whatever wasn’t closed. Rarely wore a mask unless I had to, once on an airplane in June 2020. Sometimes at work when I absolutely had to, but never over my nose. NEVER.
I came down with COVID-19 in November 2020, had flu-like symptoms for a day or two, then recovered, just like > 99.99% of other people in my age group with no co-morbidities. I was “quarantined” in a spare bedroom, and my family never seemed to get it. I now had the gold standard of immunity against COVID-19, natural immunity, and proudly represented a line of community defense against this virus in what is known as herd immunity. (An immunity, by the way, based on all 5 proteins of the virus, plus memory T cells, NOT just the spike protein.) Every summer we continued to visit our dad who was in his 90s. I was surprised when my family went skiing in Colorado in December 2021 and I caught something, which I assume may have been omicron, although there were about three other viruses floating around in Colorado then. I think my wife and two children also caught it from me, although their symptoms seemed milder. Being cold and up in elevation might have been part of the discomfort. We’ve been fine otherwise. I forgot to add, neither of my two children have had the covid vaccine, I consider this child abuse of the highest order. All risk, no gain. My wife had the first shot after much hesitation. She had bad joint pain for a month or two, and never took any other shots. My brother and sister work in the health industry, and they’re forced to take the shots. So far, nothing unusual with them, but I am concerned for them.
My life almost changed when Biden held a press conference in September 2021 and made an executive order that all military contractors with the government would have to be vaccinated. I watched in horror as no one stopped this order at my large company. I can’t tell you how much sleep I lost and anxiety I experienced until I finally resolved that I would rather be fired than comply, and I finally made my peace with that decision. It was a load off my mind. So I decided to apply for a religious exemption, although my request was more a sharply worded critique of shock and disgust at what the company was doing. (I ended by saying “I trust God to protect me, not Caesar’s golden vaccinated calf.”) Two weeks later I received a denial based on religious grounds, but a request for more information. I never responded, and two weeks later I was granted a religious exemption. I hope people are held accountable for their criminal actions the last 3 years.
China counts COVID deaths as “people who die of respiratory failure or pneumonia from the actual SARS-CoV-2 virus.” The “western world” counts COVID deaths as “anyone who dies with a positive test sometimes months later of anything with or without symptoms sometimes including suicides and car accidents and sometimes not even with a positive test (presumptive covid)”. So clearly the COVID death statistics in the “western world” are overly exaggerated. Even assuming this exaggerated death toll is correct, COVID was only the #3 cause of death, below heart disease and cancer, during the pandemic.
The SSA actuarial tables suggest 70-80% of people born will survive to their 70th birthday, before mortality really starts accelerating. Everyone dies, but most people do not die of heart disease (#1 cause of death), and most people do not die of cancer (#2 cause of death), and most everyone dies after their 70th birthday. Since COVID is (supposedly, worst case) the #3 cause of death, this (mathematically), means that in a hypothetical 100-year-long COVID pandemic, your average baby born would survive — easily — with near 70-80% odds, to their 70th birthday.
Likewise, I will no doubt easily survive to my 70th birthday, even if I “got COVID”, since the mortality rate is so low, even if “the pandemic” lasted for another 100 years. But of course no pandemic lasts that long.
People of almost EVERY age (even 10 year olds!) are actually more likely to die of heart disease, or of cancer, than COVID. Most people acknowledge that someone under 40 dying of heart disease, or cancer, is a tragic — but statistically rare — event. Well, COVID deaths are even rare-er. So I assign minimal risk to COVID-19.
In short I saw no reason to take experimentation medication to “prevent” a disease that is very unlikely to kill me before I get so old I would be about to die anyway. Some pharma execs were already talking about fall and winter “boosters” in early 2021, so it was clear to me this wasn’t actually going to “prevent” anyone from getting it, if you need to continuously “boost”.
The incredibly bizarre vaccination campaign with social shaming, etc, was the final straw and so I said “no”.
So far I haven’t “gotten COVID” but then again maybe I did but never had any symptoms and hence didn’t test to verify, who knows.
The whole pandemic looked too good to be true—just in time to derail the finally booming economy and stop the re-election campaign of the most successful president of our lives.
When they began demonizing cheap and successful treatments like invermectin and hydroxychloroquine (quinine)—meds that had been used for many decades—I knew the fix was in.
The fascist behavior that followed, all brought to you by our government and media, was nothing but confirmation. (lockdowns, masking, stoking fear and silencing dissent, closing churches and bars where people gather but leaving liquor stores open to increase isolation and misery)
Just paid attention, especially here at the Treehouse, and knew we were right to avoid it all. Thank God for Sundance, saver of lives.
No shots for this family, ever!
Myself, and my entire family did not take the “shot”… Even though we (daughter, her husband, grand daughter, wife, and I), are Trumpians, and it was rolled out under PDJT, but we balked at it. We are CHRISTians, and knew we were covered by the blood of CHRIST. I work for a company that 1st tried to scare me into the shot, but realized that they would have to fire 70% of the workforce. So they went with plan B, offer $3500.00 if 70% got the shot. It worked, as 70% went for the money. I held true to my beliefs as did our family. My wife, my daughter, and her husband all got it, but it was a 4 day flu like incident. My grand daughter and myself never got it. The Lord spoke loudly to all of us not to do it, and we chose his path thankfully…
63 no vax, had mild COVID 3/20
Reasons against the vax for me-
Initial Covid interviews weren’t making sense, the mrna tech looked dangerous, I knew it was all a coup/ruse when they vehemently went after those recommending hydroxychloriquine.
I didn’t take it – Why?
Two people influenced me.
1 – was Dr Savage on the radio who was against all vaccines
2 – Bill Gates, I saw the video of him from 2017, he was on a stage in front of a screen and pointing to population statistics.
His point was we have too many people on earth and the way to stop population growth was – Vaccines.
That did it for me.
1) Had covid b4 the lockdown
2) Understand immune system
3) Violently adverse to one size fits all medical solutions, aggressively pushed by government to include use of bribery and coercion
4) was aware no liability for vax pushers, makers and distributors
5) Plain don’t like being told what to do by anyone
Early days, primary because of the initial China videos, I wanted to get the best possible mask. While researching that, I realized that short of a level 4 bio lab, no mask was “effective”.
Then saw the mask (mass compliance) hypocrisy take over the nation.
I had a ton of practice saying no, by refusing to wear masks during the lockdowns. Once the vax came out, I was completely awake to the psy-op and felt sick at how many of my family and friends chose to follow fear over reason and take the shots.
By that point, any trust in government that was left, was kaput.
We have lost friends over this, but that really happened earlier, because of our refusal to wear masks.
The masking, general compliance, and even shaming was indeed stunning.
I had often wondered how a civilized people like the Germans could go so mad during the 30s and 40s.
Now we know. Even in America.
Yup. Now we know …
That quiet little voice within said “wait three years, let’s see what happens” and,
coming from a family that had a mother who’s first cousin was a thalidomide baby, a sister who had been given high doses of gamma radiation to treat whooping cough as a 6 month old baby (a government funded experiment in the early 1950’s to see what medical benefit these high doses of radiation could have for such childhood maladies of whooping cough, enlarged thymus among them, and for which 100% of those children, as they matured, all died from the most aggressive cancers) was luckily raised in a family that did not trust doctors or government and was taught as a child to always listen to one’s instincts or, that little quiet voice within.
I told my doctor, when offered the “vaccine” that I was choosing to wait three years and then see if it would be needed, and the doctor never brought the subject up again.
And when the subject comes up among friends and acquaintances I simply reply that I have “allergies” and the conversation moves on to other topics.
It felt like a lie from the onset. By March 2020, I was convinced it was a lie, so I invested all of my time into uncovering the truth. When the mask nonsense came out, I viewed that as a criminal conspiracy as an Industrial Hygienist, I knew that their mask concept was ENTIRELY false….No cloth masks are going to provide any protection against anything except possibly nuisance dust, but there is a real danger in donning a mask. Their entire mask concept did nothing but harm and I knew it, better than 99.8% of the populous. Then the PCR testing…I went thru all of the CDC’s lab protocols and learned that there was no benchmark, no control and THEY KNEW THIS! They were telling labs across the US to just use pneumonia as the control since we don’t have SARS COV-2 to give you. Finally, when the vaccines started to hit the scene, I started monitoring VAERS. Every Friday night, after a day at work, I would download the week’s data and filter, sort and read all of the adverse events. I caught the CDC in no less than 16 lies between March 2020 and and October 2022 and was banned from twitter numerous times for telling folks the truth…that there was never a pandemic, it wasn’t a vaccine, it wasn’t safe, it wasn’t effective, and masks do nothing but harm. When you have to change the legal definition of pandemic and vaccine to fit your narrative and reinforce your lies, then there’s not a chance I’m letting serial liars anywhere near me. I’m safe, healthy, don’t get sick, don’t have myocarditis, pericarditis or strokes. Everyone I know that took the clot shot have been sick multiple times in the last two years. Its called VAIDS.
Criminal conspiracy & fraud.
re: “By March 2020, I was convinced it was a lie, so I invested all of my time into uncovering the truth.”
By that time, no one in govt or ‘institutional medicine’ had a clear, coherent message, and the lesson of the cruise ship Diamond Princess was clear in my mind – the contagion was survivable, and not NEAR as deadly as they tried to proclaim, and whip up fear about.
1: I followed the word, thou shalt not fear
2: family member worked in labs on mrna animal studies, said its poison
3: did my own research and a risk benefit analysis
I followed the drops on the letter 17 board. Those drops made it quite clear that the largely smoke and mirrors pandemic was a set up to get rid of President Trump, that Ivermectin and HCQ worked, and that “nobody needed to die.” That was the specific language of a question and answer on that board.
President Trump affirmed that truth about the same time, when he told people HCQ worked. I also listened to Dr. Zelenko and his success treating a thousand people in his community, and losing only a few. So by May of 2020, June at the latest, I knew the “pandemic”was a psy op being carried out by an alliance of CCP and US and worldwide actors, and that, having already survived the disease by then, I did not need to live in perpetual fear of contracting and dying from the China virus.
I already knew from Fauci’s role in HIV drugs that he was a bad actor. I also already knew years before about the NIH royalties set up, coincidentally – so the Fauci profit motive was obvious to me from the start.
Then there were the obvious lies. The lies about a wet market that didn’t pass the first level of serious examination, the denial of the fact that the outbreak right occurred right next to the Biolevel 4 Lab, the fact that you were not allowed to mention that fact on social media, the censorship of Zerohedge articles pointing out true facts about the Wuhan lab, the way the mask rules were imposed worldwide just at the exact moment when the “pandemic” should have been over in a world with actual rational public health action on the basis of actual scientific studies, the censorship of the basic science around children not having the epithelial ACE2 expression to even catch Covid being ignored while schools were shut down. It all added up to very, very bad actors continually lying. And we are supposed to trust those same people when they said “inject this substance”? No.
That was all well before the November 2020 election.
Then I was also three degrees of separation away from an AstraZeneca executive and I knew from a reliable source that even as the roll out was starting that there was no way in hell that family was going to be taking the “medicine” the executive was promoting. That’s the acid test, right there.
With all that, I was horrified when President Trump endorsed the jabs. He knew they were never needed to prevent death. I concede they were needed to begin to break the mass formation psychosis and save the US economy. I concede maybe the early rollout will save billions upon billions of lives from the Yuval Harari nightmare future, but the cost of saving what could be saved is a wall of unending grief and loss, and we are only at the beginning.
Could you explain your thoughts about how the vax could break the MFH?
Even though I could see the truth, every time I tried to share it in person, in a very blue bubble, I kept coming up against what I then called “the bounce. ” Every piece of true information that you would think would help people see the light was pre-bunked. At the time I had no language for this phenomenon. Until I finally discovered Mathias Desmet’ work on mass formation psychosis,
it just seemed like witchcraft. I actually described what I was experiencing to one person as having my closest circle be “under a spell.”
Thank God for Desmet. When everyone else around you is in a different reality altogether and you have no understanding how that is even happening, it is soul destroying. Just being able to understand the mind control via neurolinguistic programming that was being used as a weapon throughout this time period – what a gift that was. My world became rational again. Cold anger grew, but at least things made sense again.
The masks, in particular, seemed to be reinforcing the strength of the delusional uptake of the lies.
I have a pretty decent knowledge about obsessive compulsive disorder. Your brain has a free floating anxiety that crystalizes around a fear, and it suggests that if you do a ritual, the thing you fear will happen will be prevented. The whole mask and shot exercise now reads to me like the onset of mass, induced OCD. With OCD, the more you do the irrational thing, the more you attribute the irrational thing as having great power. It is a self-reinforcing loop. Think of all those people who were told 2 jabs would protect them and then they moved straight into their 3rd and 4th die to “breakthrough infections” (new NPC word) without ever getting to “but they lied to me!”
Irrational. ( Desmet talks about this too, but as a group psychological phenomenon instead of from a mental illness perspective.).
Back to OCD. What can break the OCD is exposure therapy. You think getting wet is going to kill you, or kill your cousin 100 miles away. So, you deliberately get wet. You find out you didn’t die. Your cousin doesn’t die. The thought that staying dry is keeping you or your cousin alive loses its power.
The jabs gave many people the courage or for many, the excuse, to leave isolation and go back to work and school. But the fear of dying from Covid was still very, very strong, especially in blue, Dem controlled areas where every level of government was reinforcing the fear narrative and mandates at every possible juncture.
When Omicron swept through, and preferentially infected the jabbed that was an Exposure Therapy par excellence. The mask wearing double jabbed crowd survived the thing they spent a year being sure would kill them – and they discovered they were lied to by their government about the efficacy of the jabs, all at once.
It did not break the mass formation psychosis for all of them, but it broke it for some magic number, like a wave crashing on a breaker – some water keeps rolling forward but the power of the whole is lost.
That combination of jabs and Omicron broke that gathering wave that, had it continued, would have seen the unjabbed being rounded up into cattle cars via mandates by the end of it – the plan was always to blame the unjabbed for the vax-induced variants deaths among the jabbed.
No words. I had never thought of this, or read anything or even heard anyone come to this very intriguing conclusion.
Thank you, for sharing.
I am having a weird moment of utter relief, because I too, thought We’d be rounded up. Truly apocalyptic thoughts, but it sure seemed that that would be the end game.
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Can’t find you on Twitter. If you can find me, I’d love to add you to my favorites.
Still staying gray, for now.
Maybe someday. Besides, the Tree feels like home. I’m happy in my little branch.
Yup – and Dr. Zelenko, RIP.
I am 54 and never even contemplated getting that shot. I do not get flu shots, have an immune system that God blessed me with and generally stay away from doctors anyway. I have been skeptical of emerging vaccines since the pediatrician starting pressuring me to allow my sons to get Gardasil so many years ago. At the time I said that vaccine was too new and why would they need it anyway-Gardasil was for a problem that was sexually acquired!
But just the thought of the government thinking they had the authority to force a totally new medical product into my body infuriated me! I will never ever get it! I get the stubbornness from my mom who listened to Rush in his earliest days…she is 84 and also is not jabbed. No regrets at all.
I did not take it because I did not believe an untested vaccine was necessary for what in my opinion was not a major threat to me. I worked as an x-ray tech per-diem in two different hospitals , one in the city, one a community hospital. I worked there before this stupid pandemic, and during the whole foolish thing until 2021. I was horrified by the way my fellow citizens just lay down, rolled over, and bought what the talking heads on the TV said. I went to an anti-lockdown rally on May 4, 2020 a few blocks from my hospital. I quit the small hospital right when the shot came out in December 2020. The city hospital that I loved and worked at for 12 years, fired me in September 2021 for refusing the vaccine. I did not lose friends. All have been respectful, mostly we just don’t discuss the subject. Family, on the other hand, tried to force masks on the 2 unvaxxed sisters at the family Christmas party in December 2021! We didn’t attend…. maniacs. Anyway, lost a good amount of salary, missed seeing so many wonderful colleagues, but, always have been confident in my decision. And mostly praying that the shots stop killing people because so many I love have taken it. It’s scary.
Thank you, Sundance, for asking, and letting us speak for ourselves. God Bless.
I didn’t get the jab for several reasons.
The first one being I did some research on the jab.
Dr. Tenpenny explained the dangers of the jab in jan 2020.
[audio src="https://magavotesmatter.com/killervaccine.mp3" /]
This is a shorter version of an interview that gets directly to the point of why the covid-19 vaccine is so dangerous.
Dr Tenpenny explains 3 of the 7 ways the DNA alerting covid-19 vaccine works in your body.
https://vaxxter.com/category/drt_blog/
After reading and hearing Dr Tenpenny’s warning about the jab I knew it was a deadly ticking dna time bomb..
In 2020 I started warning others.
I was amazed at the gov and big pharma lies being broadcast.
My website:
Deadlyvax.com
I made several others also.
The more research I did the more I became convinced the drug companies and “govment” were trying to kill us with a bio weapon “vaccine”.
God has had mercy on me.
I had the two Moderna Shots and two boosters. I haven’t had any adverse reactions at all.
Never had any issues with the COVID vaccines. Nor has my wife.
I haven’t trusted the government since I knew they killed JFK. I wasn’t about to trust them with a vaccine that was rushed into production and on the market too quick. I didn’t believe this was a pandemic by any stretch. It was mostly a lot of fear mongering and taking advantage of people’s ignorance. Fear is a great motivator for most people but I am not most people. If God is for me, who can be against me? I never wore a mask either. Pissed off a lot of stupid people too but their fear doesn’t eliminate or negate my freedoms/rights. I have the right to choose mask/vaccine/lockdown. I simply said no thank you.
anything and everything that corporate media or government say is part of a psy-op.
live by that simple acknowledgement and you can’t go wrong. the gov’t is evil, they are lying in some way and trying to manipulate your opinions and thoughts and therefore your actions. figure out exactly what it is they want you to do and don’t do it.
My husband is an interventional radiologist who works for 3 level ones. He also had the opportunity prior to this mess to work with MRNA technology. While brief he understood enough to know it was not only dangerous but wasn’t going to work. He refused to take it and was shunned by our friends. He stood is ground and still kept his job in California. They needed him. Slowly but surely the eyes are being opened of all the physicians who shunned us. I will never trust modern medicine again. I will never trust our government again. Every institution has been beheaded for me. I’m so sad about it all.
I’m not even mentioning all my husband has seen from these vaccines. The damage has been significant. Many of our friends have died.
Myself, my wifE and 21 year old son all chose not to take the vaccine. Initially we were skeptical because of how FAST it came out and how hard they were pushing it without any trials. Then the more they pushed it and tried to force people to take it and people were having so many severe reactions we just decided not to take it. I stocked up on Ivermectin (which was not easy to get) and other supplements. There was alot of pressure also from my wifes side of the family to take it. In September of 2021 my son did get the delta variant at work and brought it home. He was only mildly sick for a few days. I had gotten some home test kits and when my wife and I started feeling bad about a week after my son got it we started taking the tests and kept coming up negative. When we got progressively worse we did start taking the Ivermectin and supplements but I guess we started to late and we did not take large enough doses. I was only giving us a preventative dose because the covid test kits kept saying negative. We both ended up in the Hospital with covid pnemonia. Neither of us needed a ventilator but I had complications. I had kidney stones and what they thought was an intestinal blockage while in ICU. We both came home after a week. I truly think the Ivermectin kept us from having it worse. HOWEVER one day after I was home I started throwing up massive amounts of blood and had to be rushed back to the hospital then life flighted to Geisinger medical center. By the time I got there I had lost so much blood that the doctor told my family if it would have taken 15 more minutes I would not have made it. Initially they though I had a bleeding ulcer magnified by the steriods the other hospital had me on but they fixed that and a week later while still in ICU it happened again. then again. Finally on the third time they decided to open me up and ended up removing my whole stomach. They said it was bleeding so bad everywhere they could not save it. 35 days in ICU. They could not explain why it happened. After I got out and did alot of research I found out that when in the hospital the first time they gave me the experimental drug remdesivir. I was talking to my chiropractor about it and he said THAT IS A HORRIBLE DANGEROUS DRUG. He said whatever you have wrong with you it will make it much worse. Then I was researching it more and it has been known to CAUSE GASTRIC BLEEDING. When I asked my doctors about it at my next appointment they of course said “Oh NO remdesivir wouldn’t have done that”. None of them would admit that it could have caused it. And they doctors constantly tried to pressure me to get the covid 19 vaccination over the last 15 months. I have still not and will not get that vaccine. And I believe we made the right decision especially now that you see reports of people falling over dead every day. The fact that they are still pushing the shot, even though the SCIENCE shows that most people getting covid right now are those who have the shot and boosters, is criminal.
Ya – the no trials thing and supressing EVERY other possible treatment regimin for the sake of obtaining an EUA were big red warning flags …
First, I do not believe the government statistic that 70% took the shot. I believe they used that to pressure people into thinking they wouldn’t want to be in such a seemingly small minority.
I did not take it. My reason was very strong discernment from the Lord not to. (The same with first the masks which I never wore). So I knew immediately that it was not a good thing. But adding to that, hearing all the left suddenly pushing very for it–I knew it couldn’t be good.
I live in a blue state, so there were horrible mandates that included terrible punishments for non-compliance. Masks I could see, so I knew there was mass compliance there. I definitely stuck out. It was heartbreaking to see only people’s bewildered, ashamed, sometimes fearful eyes . And with all the pressure to force and coerce into shots, I’m sure there was also much compliance here.
I did receive some persecution for not complying, but God’s grace gave me the ability not to take it personally. And I knew the full-court press upon the citizenry on every commercial break on radio or TV, as well as the governor’s constant threats that made it VERY difficult for most to stand for freedom.
I am very glad for God’s protection from the tyranny frightening me into things not good for me.
I continue to pray for us all~~
Could tell right from the beginning that the Vax– won’t get covid if vaxxed; won’t transmit was bullshit.
As well, had h1n1 back in 2009…it was bad…and no one cared
Plus : hcq+Zn and ivermectin seemed like much better choices…w no mRNA or DNA manipulation
I had been following the emergence of COVID and my antenna went up as soon as some early sporadic information began to be removed from the internet within a day or two after it appeared.
I followed what I knew to be true until something was presented to change that. As it progressed, I did not see anything that showed it was anything beyond the level of the flu. I knew I had a healthy immune system and no conditions. As with the flu, there was no significant risk for someone of my condition and age.
As such, I would no sooner take the vaccine than the flu shot. I actively read and seek out good information and found an interview with a researcher. He stated that the vaccine, even if it was a good one, would be unsuccessful because coronaviruses are too variable. He stated that research had been done on Dengue and a vaccine was determined to be non-viable. Dengue branches into 4 main variant families and if you vaccinate for one, it does not protect you from the others and with time actually makes your susceptibility to the others greater for advanced symptoms. He predicted that the vaccine would initially appear to be good but with successive generations of variants, those that took the vaccine would get COVID more and more often and progressively worse outcomes. That was before any details about the vaccine or its design were known. He predicted it would lead to significant death from advanced respiratory distress and complications within 5 years.
I truly hope he was wrong, but his prediction was based on solid scientific research. I never looked back after that. Didn’t allow my family to get vaccinated. Tried to convince those around me not to get it.
As time went on, real information only reinforced that decision and the whole scenario around the vaccine progressively got worse.
My daughters were vaxxine injured and I didn’t know it. Both of them have chronic issues with headaches and digestive problems. Thanks God I didn’t give them the whole spectrum of the poisons the CDC pushes on children or at least one of them would be dead.
There is a video of the CDC in a meeting discussing vaxxines. They admit on that video that they don’t have very good safety measures in place for all vaxxines. These companies are con men and women and have used vaxxines to make sure people get chronic issued their whole lives making the medical industrial complex many perpetual customers. Making them billions of dollars at the expense of others. Demons and criminals. But after this I’m hoping more people will refuse all vaxxines and never trust them again.
See the Highwire on rumble for more information and especially the movie vaxed. The video of the CDC discussed earlier is also on their rumble channel.
I pray we will see the demise of the vaxxine industry should Jesus tarry.
The Highwire is an excellent program.
While I did take the initial Covid shot, I went old school with the J&J shot. No stinking mRNA soup in my veins. Only now are people waking up to the fact that taking an untested shot has repercussions. And the more you take, the less effective mRNA becomes.
And BTW……..it’s not a vaccine. Vaccines eliminate diseases(polio, mumps, rubella, chicken pox come to mind) where the Covid vaccine does not. Quit moving the goal posts.
insanely low death rate. does not merit any intervention
Frankly, I never considered taking it. I had one flu shot in my life and a bad bout of flu followed. I have not been that sick in the 40+ years since. Once the pressure started to build with mandates that sealed my refusal. I will not be forced into treatment and as for losing friends or family, we still have HIPA protections. It is nobody’s business if I took the jab or didn’t.
Sundance. We didn’t take it cause we ain’t stupid. That’s also why we come here to read dern near every word you write.
which is a lotta dern words sometimes 😂
I was never going to take it. I had bad reactions to vaccines previously. There was no history behind them and I did not trust what the pharmaceutical companies were saying. Plus I knew I had a strong immunity system. I had also been on a journey to get off all medications and therefore refused to add more chemicals to my body.
As a result I was uninvited to Thanksgiving at my sister’s and my parents immediately changed their plans to have it at their home so I could be with family. My sisters pressured me tremendously and my mom did tell me to just get it. None of them listened nor respected my choice. And when the medical issues that I have with my heart were told to them they did not believe me as I had not told them that before. I also missed out on a professional conference that I was to speak at. This occurred after the mask mandates were gone especially on planes and most places were open again.
I understood that where they lived and the news they watched greatly influenced them. Though I live in a liberal city I don’t surround myself with liberal people to a large extent and I listen to various points of views. I listened still to Sheryl Atkinson and her reporting on vaccines in general kept me cautious and wary of these new ones. I ultimately needed to keep my choice private
I only watch the national news – when I want a good scare! Seriously, the broadcast news biz exists ONLY for the purpose of ‘click-baiting for viewers’ to see the commercials for which they receive payment …
I hadn’t planned on taking the vaccination for at least ten years until I found out it was a mRNA vaccine.
Then, I put it off indefinitely.
Now that is forward-looking planning.
I learned early on that this was a mRNA not a vax, so no way I was going to be a guinea pig. But I had no financial consequences. I got some ivermectin early on, so when I got COVID, and I got over it in about 10 days of home rest. No problems since.
I am so proud of my son who left Southern California and moved to Florida to prevent having his 8 year old daughter get the jab and wear masks for school. He is a professional musician, gave up all his gigs and lost most of his friends over this decision. Within 3 months of moving to St Augustine, he has replaced all his musical income, starting from zero. Wow.
I’ve practiced veterinary medicine for thirty three years. The roll out of this “ vaccine” violated all the rules and principles we have had in place for at least sixty years. When thalidomide caused children to born without arms and legs, the United States avoided that horror because we had an approval process that sought to avoid such tragedies. That process as completely disregarded in this case.
The denigration of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were obviously coordinated and had nothing to do with science. The epidemiology, the treatment protocols, the shutdowns, all these things did not comport with known appropriate methods established in previous outbreaks.
The mRNA product did not fit the definition of a vaccine in any respect. Probably a good tip off in the future …. If they change an established definition to fit what they are foisting, be very suspicious.
In short, there were too many things which I knew to be untrue, safety protocols were ignored, and I wanted no part of it.
I worked in pharmacy for almost a decade (in the 90s) under an “old school” Pharmacist (we did compounding from raw materials). I am very aware of the drug approval process and even how that careful approach had failed in the past (like Fen-Phen) that spent years on the market– then “oops– this one causes heart valve issues… oops– this one causes suicidal tenancies”.
There is NO WAY you develop an ENTIRELY new drug in 3 MONTHS and can straight face claim that it is “safe and effective”… when other therapies that went through a DECADE+ of study prior to approval find problems years later. When they said this.. I knew it was a lie and there was another agenda at play.
Much less– 3 moths of study for an entirely NEW platform (mRNA gene therapy) that has next to zero track record with the public. Then– they discarded the blinded group (people who would never take it so you can measure effectiveness and isolate side effects).
Reverse Transcription (a cell integrating the mRNA into it’s DNA) is dangerous. In nature– we call corrupted DNA by other name… CANCER. And now– it’s been demonstrated in human liver tissue in the lab. Immune exhaustion (which also appears to be happening) lets other ailments like Cancer run amok… hence we now have “Turbo Cancer” which is already stage 3-4 when discovered.
I asked myself– “If COVID is so terrible”– how come all the folks that seem to be dying from it do so in the hospital? Why aren’t we seeing bodies being carted out of homeless camps and retirement homes? Then I saw that the “protocol” being used includes REMDESIVIR — another drug that failed it’s trials because 60% of folks who were given it died.
Now my ears were tingling…. Could the government be actually creating this “epidemic” by using a lethal protocol in Hospitals? I looked closer at the idea of mechanical ventilation. If you have fluid building in the lungs– it has little benefit (oxygen, antibiotics & antivirals are traditional treatments). I saw how ANY physician who questioned or challenged these “top down” mandates to have their careers threatened… That’s NOT how science works. The truth can defend itself– only lies need constant narrative control and coercion.
Then– the mother of all indicators appeared. MANDATES. One of the principles of “experimental” therapies is full disclosure, and right of refusal. This was quickly discarded and people were threatened with their freedom and livelihoods to take it (my wife lost her job rather than submit to coercion). I was lucky enough that when my company “mandated” it (because of contracts with the Feral Gruberment)– that they accepted my exemption request (we’ve been working remotely for 2+ years now anyway). Let’s be honest: A government that gleefully supports abortion does not give a spit if you live or die. I knew 100% that this was not being done for my best interest.
The fallout from this will be worse than any pandemic. Fertility is impacted. Immune function is impacted. Spike protein crosses the blood/brain barrier and causes inflammation. Life expectancy is already down several years in the last 2, and will continue downward as “suddenly died” takes its tool. Life insurance companies will need bailouts (or go under).
I know this was no accident. This was planned– and it is also conveniently why the “Georgia Guide stones” were destroyed (calling for a world population of not billions– but 500 Million). This was a culling, and I pray for the souls of those who were deceived.
None of it made sense from the beginning. Not me. I had the “luxury” of NOT taking it. Family had to for jobs. I looked up FLLLC and gave them 2 weeks prior to shots and 2 weeks after, the protocols to offset the shot. So far so good. God willing.
Nope , no shot for me! I figured the whole thing was a PSYOP from the beginning. The “We are in this together” BS was the kicker. When it comes to the lefties, Im not “together” with them on anything!
I was sick with COVID Dec. 2020 along with my wife and kids. My kids had been exposed to a positive teacher and we had already been quarantined for three weeks when we got it. My wife went out on Saturday to do some shopping. Did she bring it home? Was it on our food? Don’t know. We all faired pretty well, it hit my wife the hardest an she was just unusually lethargic and short of breath. The kids didn’t seem to notice a thing. Anyway, when the vaccines came out they were dispensing by age group, so I didn’t think too much about it for a few months. It was probably March or April ’21 when I started looking at the options and I was against the MRNA, I didn’t want to be an early adopter. I had decided to get the J&J until it got in the news that it was causing clotting. I kept reading, and I found that these, like a lot of medications, were tested using aborted fetus cells. That put another strike against it in my mind. I’m not Catholic, but I looked at the church guidance and I wasn’t impressed. So I pretty much became apathetic towards them, I’d had it, defeated it, and didn’t feel threatened by it. I kept looking for info and started seeing the injuries, the VAERS reports, and what was in it. I resolved into a hard no, and over my dead body my kids aren’t getting it. My wife agreed to that.
My wife works for the MIC, and the MIC wanted to force it on everyone. Feeling like an outsider marked for the camps by the special badges and masks at work really bothered my wife. The unvax’d had special rules, and she really felt it was a matter of time that they said take it or your fired. I’d agree, there were some really unhinged emails from leadership. So by chance her dream job opened up where she used to work, but they required the vax. She felt like she didn’t have any options because it was unclear if I’d keep my job given the vax mandate in healthcare; I fought with her about it but she went and did it. Turns out the union workers made a big stink about it at her new employer, and they told fed gov to shove it. They soon dropped the requirement. Her cycle became permanently screwed ever since, and has required medical intervention. None of the docs want to acknowledge the jab’s effects, but my wife suspects it because of the timing. What do you do?
I’m a remote work employee with some travel required. Not getting vax’d pretty much eliminated my ability to travel to any markets by company policy. I didn’t have a problem with the idea of seeing patients, and agreed to follow the clinical rules to protect the patients. They gave me a religious exemption without a hassle, I basically just signed a simple attestation, but I was prepared to dig in and fight citing law and religion. Typically we had an annual dept meeting at HQ every year, but they just resumed it in ’22. I was explicitly denied permission to go along with another employee in my dept. They gave me an excuse about liability if I got sick, yadda yadda. I don’t think they’ll move against me for not getting the shot, they promoted me, but they are going to continue acting like this works. My boss told me to upload a fake card… lol
Everyone else I know I got the shot. Some I’m sympathetic to for their reasons, others I thought were really dumb. Made me question some peoples’ judgement. What’s done is done, I don’t wish ill on anyone for getting it. I don’t talk to anyone about it, and say at least 66% of the people I know didn’t line up for the booster. I won’t forgive what’s been done and I won’t forget.
1) It’s not a “vaccine”. It’s synthetic MRNA that hijacks your ribosome to produce the spike protein.
2) It failed phase 2 test and phase 3 was scrapped.
3) ALL previous vaccines had 10 year testing to monitor long term side effects.
4) There was no informed consent disclosure.
5) All parties involved were given immunity.
I would never put an experimental anything in my body. Answer your question SD?
Ditto. And I had covid before any tests were available, and survived. Interestingly, almost 95% of a local church gathering got jabbed multiple times by Dec 2021 and ALL caught Omicron (or worse?) and were in a bad way. They made everyone wear masks, too, but it didn’t do anything to protect them. My Natural immunity had kicked in, so the only thing that changed for me was losing taste & smell for several months. 🤷🏻♀️
I did not trust the m-RNA factor of this vaccine from the start, as it is experimental. In addition,I am not a sickly person.I am generally healthy and I have worked with the public my whole life, plus three kids. I felt I probably would not get sick or had already been exposed and fought it off.
Then I saw and heard Robert Malone on Warroom. Quite alarming testimony from him, but quite believable. I decided to abstain and advised my husband from taking the shot. Two of my three children got the shot, unfortunately, but are ok so far. They were trying to stop the spread.
I suppose I am contrary by nature or design. I do not like to be told what I must do for my health. It does not suit my faith or experience.
Also, the lying Biden team had just stolen the election so why believe anything that was being said?