Yes, Judge Peter A Thompson has ruled from the Maricopa Superior Court of Arizona, that success for Mrs. Kari Lake’s lawsuit was contingent upon her being able to prove malicious intent on behalf of the country election officials. [Read 10-page Ruling HERE]
The Maricopa County officials have denied malicious intent and are afforded great benefit of doubt; after all, the election result was duly certified.
Therefore, absent direct evidence of corrupt intent by the election officials, which would require them to make admissions in court, any certified outcome is considered valid.
Additionally, yes there were multiple documented problems with ballots, tabulators and chain-of-custody violations; and yes, there were multiple simultaneous failures which would have impeded accurate voting by the residents of Arizona; however, the Lake campaign could not quantify to a demonstrable certainty, the exact number of votes that were impacted by the simultaneous collapse of voting systems, processes and ballot control standards.
Absent Mrs. Lakes’ ability to scientifically and empirically quantify the exact number of votes impacted, there is no basis for a judgement in favor of the plaintiff.
Lastly, the defendant has requested that Mrs. Lake be punished by the court for attempting to question the certification of the election as validated by her opponent, the court will consider what punishment to impose and proclaim the sanctions after Monday, December 26, 2022.
[Full Ruling Here]
“Plaintiff has no free-standing right to challenge election results based upon what Plaintiff believes – rightly or wrongly – went awry on Election Day. She must, as a matter of law, prove a ground that the legislature has provided as a basis for challenging an election. …
“[O]ne who would contest an election assumes the burden of showing that his case falls within the terms of the statute providing for election contests.” … “It was Plaintiff’s burden to establish each element by clear and convincing evidence. If Plaintiff herself failed to sustain her burden of proof, the matter is decided.” …
“As far as evidence of misconduct is concerned, the Court finds nothing to substantiate Plaintiff’s claim of intentional misconduct.” … “Plaintiff’s own witness testified before this Court that the BOD printer failures were largely the result of unforeseen mechanical failure.” …
“It bears mentioning that election workers themselves were attested to by both Plaintiff’s witnesses and the Defendants’ witnesses as being dedicated to performing their role with integrity. Not perfectly, as no system on this earth is perfect, but more than sufficient to comply with the law and conduct a valid election.” (LINK)
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The court will now determine what punishment to apply to Mrs Kari Lake.
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The biggest illusion is that truth and justice matter when confronting the powers of the swamp.
The media would be outraged if it was a Democrat treated this way. But it’s just business as usual as their agenda steamrolls forward.
You’ll never break the legal cartel, that’s why I don’t support Desantis. Our problems come from lawyers not our solutions.
Kari had a very heavy burden to bear.
Total rubbish. I have never seen a clearer case of voter disenfranchisement.
Perhaps the member means going up against the forces of the Communists. That’s daunting. For anyone. Ask the J6’ers.
I think I’m going to go out a buy a couple co-exist bumper stickers
These judges need to be investigated. How do they live? Are they living beyond their means? If so where are they getting the extra money? Who are the communicating with about the case.
Obvious the judge is corrupt or stupid. Judges need to be afraid of being exposed especially when they trample on the basic rights of people. Corruption needs sunshine.
investigated by who?
the only way any of these people are ever held to account is if the people drag them out of their houses into the streets.
until then, you should expect lady “justice” to have its way with you, whether you want it or not. and then instead of reaching for the mace or a firearm, we’ll say we’re sorry and we swear, we’ll do a better job voting next time, honey. I would never do anything to displease you – just don’t hit me again.
citizen journalists, bloggers, etc. You can find out a lot via public records. Start with where does he live what kind of car, home so forth. Judge can’t be making more than $175k or so. That doesn’t go so far. Blog about it. At least these judges will know people are on to their grift and it will be exposed.
I don’t think you can vote them out. Nor do I expect to get justice. Make the judge suffer for his decision to sell out the voters. I’ve been involved in a public dispute/scandal once. These people have thin skins and think they walk on water. Start writing about them and questioning their ethics and they will get angry fast.
“I don’t think you can vote them out”.
In my state it would take a whole lot of folks paying attention. I vote against all the dem judges every election and they just stay in office. Once there it seems near impossible to remove them.
Same here. This past election I voted No on retaining all of the Judges and there were more than 2 columns on a 20” ballot. None of them have done anything to protect the Constitution or the rights of the people against this onslaught of tyranny so they need to go and give a new crop of judges a shot at it. I’m non-affiliated so I don’t go by D or R except that I would never knowingly vote for a D. It took me forever to fill in all those ‘No’ bubbles and I had to spoil my ballot which couldn’t be read and do it all over again. My hand was cramping up, but I was determined.
I’m here and I do the same. Maybe the majority does this and nothing happens? I have zero faith in our system and what do they expect when they claim to have flubbed their way to a win? Is Arizona speshul or are other states equally corrupt?
PA is equally corrupt! No one actually voted for brain damaged Fetterman. Trump won by 1 million votes in 2020. It was stolen in the middle of the night. They have perfected their cheating. They took out the one man who was pushing to audit the vote and run for governor. They installed a Democrat POS in the governor’s office to assure continued stolen elections. Just like AZ.
Let’s see their tax returns. A Republican house majority can and should start looking at these criminals. Will they? Don’t bet on it.
They’ve worked the payment plan out long ago. Book deals anyone? Zero left office with some cash, he and Big Mike got book deals and now are multimillionaires. They were paid off handsomely.
Then there’s the Clinton crime family, left the White House nearly broke, then found their way to untold riches. Biden did the exact same thing after leaving office as VP.
To buy a judges verdict would be petty cash to the left.
He’s a coward, it’s that simple.
She is a coward! It’s a woman.
How do I delete the above comment?
Don’t look for any big bank account. They just want peace of mind and a cozy life… which this judge just awarded himself.
Agreed. They want anonymity.
His lack of integrity and courage will haunt him the rest of his life. He will try to prove his stellar integrity and conscience to others, but he will always know when it was his Thomas More moment he cowered. He will see his cowardice in the eyes of his wife, children, family and peers regardless of what they actually see, but most especially in the eyes of strangers, in the public he betrayed.
It won’t matter to him.
Sadly, that’s how people like that roll.
I don’t think they get money; I think they fear being run out of office…a scandal…don’t forget that Barack Obama was losing in the polling to his opponent, a guy named Ryan, losing rather badly, as I recall, until someone leaked the contents of Ryans’ divorce particulars which revealed a peccadillo or two of his, nothing scandalous by today’s standards.
It just take a willingness by the other side to break the law.
I think the only solution to our current problem is a national strike by conservatives. They will attack us if we demonstrate, and jail us if we protest.
But they can’t make us work for them. We already fought the Civil War that ended slavery.
All we have to do is stop working for them, and it would be over in less than a month.
Do y’all think liberals drive semis? Garbage trucks? Do you think they are the plumbers who come unclog your overflowing toilet? How about the guy who tows your broken-down car to the shop, and get his hands filthy repairing it? Or the man out in the snow storm, risking his life to turn your power back on? Or the farmer busting his butt growing your food?
Of course, most of those people are conservatives. They are US. And if we all threw up our hands and declared “well, I guess all you liberals know best,” and quit taking care of their lazy, worthless, coddled asses, they’d holler uncle pretty quick. They’d have no choice.
All we need is for a leader prominent enough to call for it. Because it has to be ALL of us, or none. If only a few quit, well, they quitters are the only ones who will suffer. But if we all just STOP, then……
Very reminiscent of the tea party but only a few partook, lots of employees filed exempt but the tax man cometh with penalties and interest. It takes the whole village or will not work.
I saw a lot of folks sitting on their asses during the planned flu, I highly doubt these lazy people will fight, ever.
I like that idea. I started practicing it about 46 years ago. Most often I’ve heard it called “civil disobedience” (which I believe in when CROOKED “authorities” place their CROOKED DEMANDS). But about working for them, WHY?, considering all the crap they give us. Let them do their own work, AND FIND OUT HOW REALLY INCOMPETENT THEY ARE!!
civil dis with rifles.
tea party with rifles.
ok.
Anything less has near zero chance of sucess.
I don’t care one horses arse about conservatives. I only care about MAGA. Not even close to being the same thing. MAGA is republicans + conservatives + democrats + independent + never-voted + disillusioned + oddballs.
Remember when Romney and McCain were conservatives? I do.
And, yes. I believe democrats do semi’s, garbage trucks, and on and on.
That kind of strike wouldn’t happen and even if it could, why punish patriots? They need their garbage collected, too. They need plumbers and cars repaired. Are strikers prepared to have the bank freeze their assets and those of their family? IRS investigate? Children removed by CPS?
Those are reasonable concerns and suffering is part and parcel of social upheaval, revolution, and war. There’s really few pleasant options for adversarial action, particularly extra-judicial.
I think citizens who aren’t willing to take the risks and suffer should do what most colonists did during the Revolution; continue living their lives as best possible. Stay out of the way and avoid collaboration with the enemy.
We saw how effective the ad hoc bank run was in Canada and that was over only a small number of protestors and supporters having assets frozen. We could go large here and totally destroy the financial industry and destabilize the economy.
If that forced the Communists into violence, then the patriots skilled in killing, of which there are millions professionally trained, could go to work. Others, stay out of it.
With due respect to Kari Lake, this is a lot larger than her or any other politician. The Republic is at stake. Real lives are at stake. Now.
We need a Lech Walesa and Solidarity movement that successfully fought the Marxist-Socialist government in Poland. He worked closely with the Workers’ Defence Committee (KOR), providing aid to workers arrested in labor strikes and their families. There needs to be a backup support system in place for those who will be either arrested, fired from their jobs with no income, bank accounts closed, etc. like Canada did with the Freedom Rally truckers.
Solidarity was funded by external IAs to the tune of $1 billion.
The vatican, P2 lodge and Banco Ambrosia with Roberto Calvi were the conduits, and why Calvi was killed.
Where i the support for such a movement going to come from when all the IAs are against you?
I’m trying to end my bad habit of too many words here.
One thought — In general, our side is far superior in its knowledge + understanding of History.
— Why the Hades do we react to things like this as if there is Nothing we can do…?
Civil Rights Movements did not take place on Mars….
…….Why does the other side always own the Streets + Activism beyond Political Pep Rallies + Voter Drives….?
Come on, people…..
-we are the party of law and order
-i would never stoop to their level
-but what about J6?
-what if they take my stuff away?
-i can’t, i have a job and a family
-i’m too old
-you may be right, but i don’t see YOU doing anything
-[insert your reason for doing nothing here]
Color Revolutions + Arab Springs primarily draw key support from Armchair Activists who can act from the comfort of a warm, cozy room.
But if we wait until they have cut off our Lines of Communication by exercising the ability to cut off our Internet Access —— well………
The young have to be engaged.
The word “conservative” drives the young away.
The Freedom Party has a ring to it..
I’ve been away too long to have a good feel for the youth – but they are probably lost until Hunger/Starvation sets in + then they are more likely to just go into unfocused chaos….
It will depend on the 30+ generations, is my best guess…..but I wouldn’t bet $$$ on it….
How about — Anti-Geocide Party….?
not really on “has to be engaged” and not really on “drives them away”… but its a longer post.
All about indoctrination and state censorship.
they got it before they had to “cut it off”… check out twitter wars, fbi in command
I mean — taking away your ability to go online at all or strictly limited to approved sites or police arresting your Hate Speech + so on…
Real ID Laws for getting online so you can be tracked and so on.
I’m not talking about using Big Tech to influence the narrative.
I’m talking about Digital Gulags.
“-you may be right, but i don’t see YOU doing anything”
I used that on myself last week. Now that the Mid-Terms had woken up a sufficient % – I had to beat myself with it.
Thus the website + I don’t even want to count how many hours per day working on it….
why? beacuse the left is nefarious while the right believes in the rule of law, on aggregate.
Civil Rights Movements did not take place on Mars….
Next excuse….?
For the right, politics is a seasonal event every two years. For the left, it is constant 24-7. They want to change the world… We want to preserve it.
I think that is an underrated slice of wisdom. Thank you.
But only a % of the Left. A small % but enough to be effective. I just don’t really get people sometimes.
For example, I immediately did an update to the Kari Lake Page which will be the main page tomorrow — with Contact Info for that Court to go along with LOADS of Contact + Donation Links to the key players involved in this battle.
Zero Likes.
Most of the people here are Christians. I asked a couple of times for Prayers for the new site — which leaving them at the Donation Link is completely Free. I got —4….
“What can we do….?”
……..”All is Lost…..!!!”
We’re about 60% awake…….. When will we draw from history + really attempt to do something….? —- The massive Trump Rallies in 2020 were AWESOME….. Especially seeing the Boat Rallies to defy Covid Lockdowns….
…….But suddenly —- we can’t see how we can do anything….
I really suck at this not taking up space thing……
Massive rallies mean nothing when the game is rigged.
Really? I guess Segregation is still around…
….I guess those people in Sri Lanka were really uninformed.
……..I guess the people in Brazil are doing great harm to the Global Psyche by giving people —- False Hope….
……………I guess there really is nothing we can do but vote + wait for the Court Decisions.
…………………………..Where are the showers….?
At the end of the rail side line, ending at the camp, unfortunately.
At least the oven will be warm…..wait…..oh, it won’t matter by that time……never mind….
Enough people have woken up to the level of corruption.
—- We are still too far beyond the sufficient % we need who will internalize —- what is at stake. — The Nature of the Threat/Danger/Battlefield….
Denial or Ignorance will not produce Bliss this time around…..
The printer sabotage worked to perfection. Punch a few buttons on the printer, and nothing works quite right anymore. Then be prepared to lead everyone astray with confusing and contradictory responses. And be very helpful to the goym.
Democrats are MUCH better at cheating and that’s a fact. They are shameless and want to win at any cost. Normal people will always be at a disadvantage against people like this.
Using “intent” as the legal standard is both stupid and insane. Wait, done by design to make it impossible for Lake to win her case. “Intent” is a high legal standard and is usually used in fraud cases, as a key underpinning of proving fraud is to establish intent. Intent is irrelevant in the AZ election case. The standard is whether election laws and rules were violated, and therefore rendering the elections results corrupt and unreliable, regardless of intent.
If the disenfranchised people of AZ don’t make a big stink about this (like they are doing in Brazil), then Kari Lake is fighting the battle alone.
Kari, keep fighting. Article VIII of the Arizona Constitution is entitled Removal from Office. Start a recall of Hobbs as soon as legally permitted and keep pressuring / exposing the corrupt system until it breaks! Until then, lead a political insurgency of resistance against the illegitimate Hobbs regime. Hobbs will open your borders, force your children to be vaccinated, allow crime to spread, and ruin AZ in ways that have not yet been thought of. Keep the pressure on!
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A prosecutor will ‘impute intent’ if, say, a person is arrested with a couple of legal ingredients that go into making of some illegal concoction, but a couple of ‘bad actions’ . . . pffft, nothing to see here folks.
Not sure why people are even kvetching about AZ. They have been fake republican for 60 years. Even Goldwater was a libertarian.
It sure would be nice to see the emails from Richter and Hobbs from the past year.
Exactly! Someone’s mindset, specifically intent cannot be determined, and therefore has no place in the legal system.
Any legal question must be about the crime. Intent can only be inferred IF SOMEONE HAS WITNESSED an action or words that has a direct impact on the Crime. INTENT DOES NOT MATTER IF GUILT IS NOT ESTABLISHED.
I wish I lived in AZ. I would be at every protest just like I was at every one of the Stop the Steal protests including Jan 06. We need to stand up and stop being cowards.
Where was the opportunity in this expedited “trial” for discovery of emails, communications showing intent? Also, the fact that Hobbs refused to recuse herself should weigh heavily in favor of Lake re: intent (and should have resulted in an equitable ruling by the judge, ie without having to prove a high standard like intent) .
If proving intent (without discovery) is the gold standard for redoing an election that disenfranchised enough voters to make a different outcome, and where “incompetence” is instead claimed, then our republic is dead.
You are correct, IMO. How the hell can one be held accountable to proving the high legal standard of “intent” when one has no ability to gather the evidence of “intent” through discovery?
Third-world sham trial and third-world sham courtroom.
Btw, given the high level of corruption, um, er, incompetence by “Governor Elect Katie Hobbs” in this election, and the irrefutable estimates of disenfranchised Republican voters, any further sanctions against Lake by Judge Thompson will be a real tell as to his impartiality.
He’s already shown me he is not a righteous man and he lacks courage to do the right thing.
The left now have a new tool in their tool kit. Knowing the right show up on election day, Like I do, just prevent those votes from counting. How? A few changes to the printer settings seemed to do the trick. Oh, you know they’ll have more before the next election.
I voted and got to acknowledge my choices on a computer kiosk. I accepted those as my choices. then a printed card was spit out that I had no ability to confirm anything on it. Somehow we got a full slate of republican heads elected and a lefty governor.
We need spies.
Of course the republic is dead. I thought that was well established. The question now is what is an effective means to fight back. All the traditional ways have not worked.
Absolutely correct.
the courts were lost in 2020. the election process was also lost in 2020. not sure if that’s perminent but for now it sure is in place. as far as i can tell….as long as women vote 60/40 donk nothing much will change. if they voted even 50/50 it would be almost impossible to rig all these elections. i think.
respects.
Give Tony Shaffer a listen in his talk with the Hofts in this video.
https://rumble.com/v223xjq-tony-shaffer-on-the-deep-state-the-2020-election-steal-in-pa-and-former-ag-.html
Love that guy! Love to see him as SecDef.
Agreed, the majority of women 50 – 70 despise President Trump and love to me “ Liberal”
A wise man told me many years ago, women love babies, ( pro abortion it’s excepted )Puppies, Cats and shoes”😎
We know many through a fellowship I am involved with, my family and previous career.
Just look at the crowd that support HRC The View etc etc.
Trudeau senior and junior have been milking the female vote at least 60 to 40 for decades.
Cheers!
John Adams said, in so many words, (I don’t have the exact quote handy) that The American Revolution was fought & determined in the hearts and minds of Americans 5-10 years before the shooting started. This is where we are now, and have been for some time. Some day, probably sooner than we expect, this chapter is going to close, and the next chapter is going to begin.
Last time I checked incompetence nor stupidity are valid excuses to break the law either.
(Try speeding through a red light and claim you didnt know, see how well that goes)
Looks like another Kangaroo court in a Banana Republic.
In the new legal system prosecutorial discretion and judicial interpretation rule the day. Watch how well lawfare crafted the judge’s ruling to fly with the appellate court it ends up in. It’s all planned out ahead of time. Watch.
Banana Republic, apt. Thanks.
I always thought that the non Criminal Court Standard was a preponderance of the evidence and not one of “demonstrable certainty”.
I would appeal.
Let me fix that photo for you.
Been too cold the past few days to fly my flag…too cold for me to stand out there and mount it. But I’ve given a lot of thought to flying it upside down for months. Hopefully getting a new flag for Christmas, may give that 2nd thought.
Might help me learn my neighbors disposition on the state of the country. Already know a few, one troubles me no end in his stated claim “I’m not political” in a pissed off voice.
This must be our strategy in 2024: Learn their plan, study their tactics, then gum up their works. Twart them at every step of their plan.
Well, Kari Lake could have played by the rules but she was too stubborn. Then Charlie Kirk came along with his stupid voting advice and that was the end of the GOP in AZ. In CA and NY republican candidates did legal ballot harvesting and won.
They control the ballots and the courts. They have no intention of ever letting us live free. Unless we accept that reality, we have already surrendered.
I think there can be an appeal. It is the courts fault that only 150 ballots were inspected. The results were 42% of the ballots were rejected. Extrapolate that to the total ballots and it definitely affects the outcome of the election.
This was my expected outcome. The fraud was baked in. The Deep State is in charge. The only thing different in this case was the fact it was actually allowed to go to trial. Even if it was a bench trial just in front of a judge. We saw throughout the challenges about 2020 that not one challenge was ever heard in a court, let alone in front of a jury. Most were denied as without “standing”.
We are in the last days of our Republic. Make whatever preparations each person deems necessary. I’m investing in precious metals. Brass & lead. They are accepted in any transaction. At least one way or another.
“The court will now determine what punishment to apply to Mrs Kari Lake.”
I have no more respect for any court or law enforcement agency. Respect is earned. The rule of law is now officially dead … although it died during the Clinton Administration. This is just the nail in the coffin. I withdraw my consent to be governed by anyone associated with the UNIPARTY.
It’s time to join together (we outnumber them) and do whatever is necessary to stop this coup. It’s time to use the 2nd Amendment as it was intended (since they want to talk about “intent*). We out number and out gun them. So let’s use those advantages while we still have them.
Let’s show them the spirit and resolve of our nation’s founders. It’s time to protest in numbers they will never forget … in numbers that will put fear into their hearts … so they know the time is coming when WE will determine the punishment to apply to ALL those who willfully destroyed our election system, our nation and our Constitution.
I was thinking… the judge had it all figured out from the beginning…
Is election law in Arizona legislated to protect the franchise of every Arizonan? What exactly is the purpose of election law in Arizona?
May her fighting spirit be contagious!
“My Election Case provided the world with evidence that proves our elections are run outside of the law. This Judge did not rule in our favor. However, for the sake of restoring faith and honesty in our elections, I will appeal his ruling.” Kari Lake said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/breaking-judge-dismisses-kari-lakes-election-lawsuit/
Thank you sir may I have another
So INTENT must be proven regardless of the evidence of actual corrupt activities and results. When did this become the requirement for conviction of a crime ?
Hell is going to be FULL!
Just another example of fraud using electronic voting machines.
I wish DeSantis was a better leader and removed all voting electronics from Florida!!!! Maybe other red states will follow.
Once democrats get in Florida it will be lost forever because of cheating machines.
Will America still not admit the truth?, we have the same problem as Brazil, an almost entirely corrupted judiciary! The evidence against Hobbs and Maricopa was devastating. In normal times, Kari Lake would win her case. However, these are not normal times, we live in an age where judges are routinely corrupted or terrorized, so we can no longer rely on the judiciary to do the right thing.
What future has a country with a senile executive, a corrupt legislature and a craven judiciary?
Malicious intent? You mean, the outcome can legally be wrong if the perpetrators did not meant it?
Other than costs what punishments might await Ms Lake for daring to question the integrity of a duly certified election? Punitive fines? Probation? House arrest. Gag order? Inquiring minds want to know.
Honestly not a surprise to me at all. When all of the other things were dismissed in the complaint other than the intentional error I knew this was going nowhere. good for Kari for pursuing but in my opinion we aren’t fixing this in a court of law at any level.
If the people in the state of Arizona don’t care why should I care. Elections are ran by each individual state. Hell, the people of Arizona should stand up and do something. Everyone knows that Lake was cheated out of the election. She should be the Governor. I mentioned earlier that they would not allow it. How many Republicans in Congress or the Senate have or will say anything about the judge’s Decision? None!
Pennsylvanians also think that the dopey Fetterman dude didn’t win legitimately for instance; but they also feel helpless because they know that crooked judges are in on the progressive (read: socialist) takeover of our nation. The corruption is ever pervasive and very few have the nerve to speak out against it. Here’s one, “I didn’t go to the Zelenskyy speech because I didn’t want to be part of a photo-op asking for more money from the United States government when they have not given us a single piece of accounting on anything they already spent.” – Missouri Senator Josh Hawley
Unfortunately, most republicans like THIS GUY
are too stupid and/or greedy to do anything
about those turning our fine country
into a banana republic.
Does turtle have any teeth? (serious qustion). It only just donned on me that he actually might not.
Removable kind probably. That’s what my dad’s face looked like when his weren’t in.
At minimum, Maricopa county’s election should be re-run. Not only was there demonstrable chicanery but it’s the largest voter bloc in the state.
I would expect the holidays will proceed for most, attentions will wander and this will largely be memory-holed, save for the legal machinations, by the time Jan 2 rolls around. That’s recent history unless we see a J6 in AZ
Time to get the recall petitions circulating.
As far as chain of custody, as Ms Honey said, someone made the decision to ignore them on election day. That was a conscious act.
Bah Humbug
And that “ignoring” wasn’t “intent”??
“Time to get the recall petitions circulating.”
Surely you’re joking.
Not in the least. It would be in effect the re-running of the election, one of the outcomes Kari was hoping for
Yes, if we’re looking at systemic redress, absent the appeals or trial court ordering a new election for one or more counties, a state wide recall would be the next best thing IMO.
It is the peaceful thing to do.
Why it’s worked so well in so many other situation lately. (sarcasm)
In California for instance, only about .03% of all recall attempts have been successful.
CNN reported in January of 2022 (https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/10/politics/recall-elections-increase-governor-school-board/index.html ) that in 2021 there were 529 elected officials across the country who faced a recall effort, the most since 2012. Only 25 were ousted (that’s 4.7%). So while a recall effort might make you feel good, it’s rather long odds that it will accomplish anything and may actually make things worse by offering *hopium* that delays us doing something that really would be effective past the point where it won’t. Remember, the other side is already getting ready for the next election with even more improved cheating techniques and even more control over the media, courts and vote counters.
Kari needs to write a book about running for office in AZ against a well-financed and interconnected machine. No defamation. Just facts and personal views and, of course feelings.
For what purpose other than to make money?
Tearing a page from the leftist playbook, yeah, the make money part is there. Also, it’s a medium to condense the arcane and disparate processes and challenges she’s been through into something average folks can make sense of. Treepers, in general, aren’t average folks, and understand the nuances and details with more clarity and perspective.
Personally I think she does better in person or via the medium she’s long worked in but books do have their place.
BS.
The judge was channeling his inner Comey.
Looks like it may have to be county against county intrastate.
Since the law governing behavior on the streets means little any more and the laws of elections passed by the states mean nothing any more, it’s clear that the law of the jungle is in effect: only the strong suvive.
We see judges afraid of the other side.
Until they fear that side’s opponent, it will get worse.
It doesn’t take a revolution.
The lawlessness of Antifa, as bad as it was a couple of summers ago, is NOT THE REASON these people don’t fear us.
They see we take no action.
That is why they don’t fear us.
An army of Kyle Rittenhouse’s taking out their mercenaries would’ve given them pause. We’re too high road for that, generally.
However, don’t count out peaceful men who want nothing more than to be left alone.
… when I think of the Founding Fathers having put their lives on the line… all the sacrifices! To get to where we are?!
“[O]ne who would contest an election assumes the burden of showing that his case falls within the terms of the statute providing for election contests.” … “It was Plaintiff’s burden to establish each element by clear and convincing evidence….
in the approximately one day the judge allotted plaintiff to present evidence and witness testimony and minus the full scope of misconduct that the 8 other claims rejected by the judge would have contributed. Like judging a picture (one among a gallery of such pictures) by looking at 2 non-contiguous tenths of a single image.
“[T]he court will consider what punishment to impose and proclaim the sanctions” On top of it all, plaintiff will be punished for failing to prove what the judge had severely handicapped plaintiff from being allowed to demonstrate. The perfunctory trial did as intended after all. It didn’t require a bought off judge, IMO, only a coward.
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I think the judge was wrong in requiring intentional misconduct or specifics about wrongful of votes. The judge’s ruling on the motion to dismiss ignored the cumulative effect of multiple problems, and effectively rendered an election contest virtually impossible to litigate in the time frame required. I assume that the appeal will address this. Arizona statute:
16-672. Contest of state election; grounds; venue
A. Any elector of the state may contest the election of any person declared elected to a state office, or declared nominated to a state office at a primary election, or the declared result of an initiated or referred measure, or a proposal to amend the Constitution of Arizona, or other question or proposal submitted to vote of the people, upon any of the following grounds:
1. For misconduct on the part of election boards or any members thereof in any of the counties of the state, or on the part of any officer making or participating in a canvass for a state election.
2. That the person whose right to the office is contested was not at the time of the election eligible to the office.
3. That the person whose right is contested, or any person acting for him, has given to an elector, inspector, judge or clerk of election, a bribe or reward, or has offered such bribe or reward for the purpose of procuring his election, or has committed any other offense against the elective franchise.
4. On account of illegal votes.
5. That by reason of erroneous count of votes the person declared elected… did not in fact receive the highest number of votes for the office…
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By the way, the kind of concrete reasoning exhibited by this judge was common in medical malpractice cases before implemetaion of the judicial doctrine of res ipsa loquitur. (In lay terms: the sponge didn’t get left in the patient without someone doing something wrong.) I’m not sure why a negligent breach of duty — or even well-intentioned widespead incompetence rendering an outcome of something this important, an election — should not be characterized as “misconduct”.
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Requiring intent seems to have been the judge’s way of predetermining the outcome.
I believe with all my heart that God has been making it very difficult for any human efforts against the enemy to succeed.
God is not being silent –
In fact he is speaking very loudly and clearly for anyone who would like to listen.
He can make absolutely anything he wants to happen, happen
He can completely thwart absolutely any and every enemy scheme
So why hasn’t he acted on our behalf to save us from this communist takeover of America?
He surely could –
Even in an instant if he so chose.
I believe he brought the enemy take over.
Just like all the times when his people forgot about him where he had the enemy take them captive or overtake their territory.
But always for the purpose that his people would return to him; renew their vows to him; acknowledge their need for him; repent–
And so that all would know that the one true God is Lord over all.
But we apparently haven’t been shaken up enough – yet.
Wise words.
THE JUDGE APPLIED THE WRONG LEGAL STANDARD.
Hobbes wasn’t just another candidate, she also held the position of fiduciary in the election process as Secretary of State.
Once a plaintiff establishes a prima facie case of the existence of a fiduciary duty and its breach, the burden shifts to the defendant to prove he acted in an “open, fair and honest” manner, so that no breach of fiduciary duty occurred.
The burden was on Hobbes to show she “acted in an open, faiir and honest manner” so that no breach of fiduciary duty occurred..
But it did occur, because she had conflicted interests.
The ruling is completely lopsided the wrong way. The law says Hobbes, as Fiduciary, has to jump through hoops to prove that fraud didn’t occur.
Not vice versa.
If a fair judgment were possible, it would seem to make excellent appeals claim.
Were it a Democrat contesting the election, you can bet the judge would rule in their favor.
The Republican elite did not want Kari Lake…. period. So, they turned a blind eye to any and all Democrat cheating, knowing full well that Hobbs would win. They will do the same to President Trump in 2024.
The Republican party needs to be destroyed. It is beyond salvage.
There is no one who could have watched all day, even from afar, what when down in Maricopa County, AZ on Election Day that would believe that anything other than malicious misconduct occurred.
I assume the same standard of intent will be applied to sanctions against Kari Lake.
The system is too far gone to fix, a reflection of our sick and dysfunctional culture. It is corrupt from top to bottom. You could no more fix this than separating the rotten egg from the well mixed batter. Time to move in a different direction instead of wasting time and effort in a system they totally control.
The Bible describes their punishment. They should pay attention.
Y’all quit your doom and gloom.
Let’s start at the first rung of the ladder.
Is there any chance of putting MAGA people in as Maricopa County Board of Supervisors?
We must remember the globo/uniparty has dovoted many years to capture County Clerks, District Attorneys, Secretaries of State – while our side was watching Fox News and hoping that Trey Gowdy would finally “get to the bottom of it”, all of that just a red herring operation to keep us on the sidelines, out of the game, while they stacked the deck.
This ain’t over. We ain’t gonna live under tyranny.
There was an Arizona governor who was removed after an appeal to the Arizona Supreme Court. I am certain Kari Lake will appeal and the people of Arizona have to keep throwing sand in the corruption election machinery until elections there are honest. Nobody should resign themselves to corruption. This is OUR country and we demand our voices matter in elections and the voting be honest.
Stop “throwing in the towel” and stir up a mountain of trouble in VERY LARGE NUMBERS. There is nothing inevitable about permanent corruption. THERE NEVER HAS BEEN. The thieves and scoundrels have been dragged out and hanged throughout world history.
Well said.
Only if you have a leader ruthless enough to do what needs to be done. When the communists threatened to take over Germany in the 1930’s, they were taken off the table in the most brutal way possible. That is the only way to successfully do it.
Sad but not unexpected. Courage is contagious. Unfortunately so is cowardice. Too many cowards in positions of influence. Thompson is one of them. They always have ways to convince themselves they have done the right thing-the law, public policy, social harmony-anything but the truth.
One of the many reasons the country has gone to hell in so many places and spaces.
Question I have is Thomson corrupt, evil, a coward, or just plain not smart? Or maybe all of the above.
The judicial system is as corrupt as DC no matter what court it is because they want the destruction and their allegiance to the British Accreditation Registry (BAR) is number one
All of the above.
I’ll go for $500 on all of the above.
He’s an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to do the deep states bidding.
I can answer how Trump slid-through in 2016. The democrats and their uni-party partners in the GOP had absolutely no idea how much same-day voting would be cast and how big it would break for Trump. It was the same-day voting that screwed the Uni-party in 2016 and you can rest-assured it’s the reason for every vote-related action in every state since.
The Uni-party wants to discourage same day voting because they can’t control it or react to it. Early voting and mail-in voting can be totally controlled and responded to. Election-day drama at the state and federal level is just scripted political theater. The outcomes are already covered in nearly every state.
As long as we continue to allow mail-in voting, large volumes of early-voting, and ballot-harvesting, the GOP has no chance. Even Uni-party GOP has no chance.
Anyone still think we’re voting ourselves out of this nightmare?
Anyone still think the Republican Party can be reformed?
It’s not meant to be reformed.
I’ve been preaching that for over two years. Glad more folks are coming around.
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What’s the alternative? War?
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Only two that I can see…….go along to get along…or war.
”Go along” is an option if death is befitting to you. They declared war on us and our compliance will only allow them to choose the place and time. I don’t fault anyone on that choice.
We all die, it is what we live for that matters, and obviously why nobody cares about our country or freedom. We have no reason worth living.
I’ve produced many reasons why God matters this is just one more. Gods principles of righteousness allow a life free of guilt. What is preached to us all day? guilt, be it white or black.
“git to livin or git to dying”
Militia CAN enforce the law, form and protect grand juries, deliver subpoena, enforce warrants, etc. Short of war but absolutely force applied with legitimate purpose. This would be legitimate acts in prevention of more advanced hostilities.
If militia activity is opposed, then skirmish followed by combat conditions in localities = war.
So the war is a marker for sovereignty and freedom where “peaceful conditions” or tranquility is a marker for subjugation and despotism.
Choose wisely.
Yup , it’s the only solution .
Socialist governments all over the world are facing angry citizens rising up to depose them in true “insurrections.” But not in the USA, yet…
https://newswithviews.com/there-was-no-insurrection-in-dc/
Maybe it will come to that, but let’s try the non-violent route first. Massive demonstrations and civil disobedience. It seems to have worked pretty well for Martin Luther King.
MLK was the side of reason and peace. Then there were the race riots and militant groups perpetrating violence. It was those people who burned cities, including D.C. during the period prior to and surrounding MLK’s murder.
Similarly, in war, there are diplomats and there are soldiers. The diplomats negotiate and the soldiers kill. They are different people and different archetypes.
Here’s some non-violence. Economic warfare. We work, we spend, we save, we invest, we borrow, on and on. Sand in the machinery. Alternative economy. Leave the killing to the patriot soldiers. Stay peaceful and legal and non-violent.
Really? How did it work out for JFK, RFK, and MLK again? Who silenced them???
Yes. You can’t vote yourself out of tyranny. The Tree of Liberty is only restored by the blood of Patriots and tyrants.
Yes! Or slavery.
The alternative is that enough of us decide that the WEF way is not the way for us and take those actions necessary to remove ourselves from the countries that are going down the WEF pathway, which is most countries on the planet.
Basically, a few states in “flyover country” are going to have to decide that enough is enough and make a break. At that point we should prepare to implement a new, limited government along the original intent. We also need to hope that powerful foreign countries will decide to help mediate a divorce.
Unless we do that, WEF slavery will be implemented. Maybe not 100% of what they want, at least not all at once, but they’ll get 60-80%, and that’s enough. I am confident that the speed with which the WEFers want to pull society will cause enough of “flyover country” to finally realize they’re the frogs in a boiling pot of water and that it’s now or never.
If we fail, at least we tried to prevent the slavery.
If we succeed, a whole new paradigm is possible, building on the genius of the founders and getting back to those things that really create a nation that can be considered a shining example for the world.
This is going to be the most difficult thing since our founding. However, the only other option is to accept slavery. I have to believe that is unacceptable to a sufficient critical mass that we can break off from hopelessly corrupted America and rebirth America “2.0” without the corruption. The genius of the founders is remarkable, especially considering the technology and scientific knowledge known at that time. Imagine what they could do if they had the Internet — many more ways to put in checks and balances to stifle corruption. We get to make those tweaks. Not only do we “get to”, it is our duty to do so.
So I’m preparing to offer my expertise to whatever coalition of the willing coalesces when the suffering grows insufferable to a critical mass. I’ve been ready for such for 15 years, but I recognize it’s a long process for people to realize they’ve been lied to about everything their entire lives.
“What’s the alternative? War?”
In the traditional, kinetic, WW2, Normandy Beach, Iwo Jima, Hiroshima/Nagasaki sense, I don’t think we’re there yet.
We still haven’t done the full measure of economic war, something PDJT provided many examples of during his administration. He avoided kinetic war but waged economic war against adversaries or to gain compliance from reluctant entities, both foreign and domestic.
We can do that too. We have numbers. What we need is coordination and mission parameters. We will also need, regrettably, enforcers. The Communists will not simply fold their tent. They will come for us.
That’s when the millions of trained professionals out there who used to be in the military can do their thing. More and more are signing on to patriotism/MAGA every day. They won’t be in the news. That’s not where they work. When things need to get done, they’ll know what to do.
Proving once again, you can’t vote yourself out of tyranny.
No! Never have believed it. As long as we fail to fight, risking our lives, they will continue. We MUST bring it to them, and do so with great intensity
This is a perfect example of what the 2nd Amendment was written for.
One question for you, did you wear a mask,adide by the lock downs,and did you get the covid shot,depenmding on your answer I will answer your first question, “This is a perfect example of what the 2nd Amendment was written for”
Piece of paper with ink on it. Our blood is what holds them to it, not theirs.
Sorry, but I fail to see how the answer to that question changes the intent of the 2nd Amendment at all or the situation where it needs to be applied.
I didn’t, and I won’t. I’m no sheeple. I even refused at the VA now the number of vets refusing to comply is growing steadily.
I second that. Amen. One way or another a battle is coming and it’s spiritual now but going to get hot soon enough.