This is a great example of two dangerous dynamics. First, the intellectual dishonesty that is needed to believe that Russia would attack Poland. Second, the insufferable immediate response from U.S. and international media stenographers lusting for war, and the danger they represent.
After the media initially proclaimed a “pentagon spokesperson” reported that Russia fired two missiles into Poland, and then ran with that narrative with such ferocity that Polish President Duda requested an article-4 convention in preparation for a NATO war,… 24 hours later the NATO alliance says ‘whoops‘ it wasn’t a Russian missile, it was a Ukraine missile that landed in Poland.
(Politico) NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg chaired an emergency meeting of alliance ambassadors on Wednesday in Brussels to discuss the incident.
After the session, he said information so far suggests the missile that landed in Poland came from Ukrainian air defenses fighting off a massive Russian attack on Tuesday that saw the country pummelled by dozens of missiles that caused blackouts across Ukraine.
“We have no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack,” he said. “And we have no indication that Russia is preparing offensive military actions against NATO. Our preliminary analysis suggests that the incident was likely caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile fired to defend Ukrainian territory against Russian cruise missile attacks.”
Duda said the explosion that killed two people in the village of Przewodów, about six kilometers from the Ukrainian border, was likely caused by the missile’s propellant, saying it was probably an S-300 anti-aircraft rocket produced in Soviet times.
“There is also no evidence that it was fired by the Russian side,” he said, calling it “an unfortunate incident.”
Earlier, U.S. President Joe Biden said it was “unlikely in the lines of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia, but we’ll see.” (read more)
Now let’s get beyond the nonsense and talk about the reality of the situation.
We all know the U.S. State Department, not Ukraine or Zelenskyy, is in control of ground military operations in Ukraine. As a result of that reality, the intellectually honest observer admits to themselves the CIA is therefore the tip of the spear in the country.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy today stomping his little feet and saying no, no way it was Ukraine, only highlights the reality of World War Reddit, where Zelenskyy is nothing more than a casual front man -in Hollywood garb- for the CIA/DoS mission. Puppet Zelenskyy has no idea who, what, where and why strategic U.S. military forces and contractors are operating in his country. Zelenskyy’s Ukraine function is to be the Bob Geldorf face in the Ukraine funding and money laundering operation. Nothing more.
So, we have a Ukraine missile fired now supposedly fired “errantly” in a westward direction into Poland, while trying to intercept a Russian missile fired from the east. Um, well, yeah, that sounds like, :::cough::: bullshit :::cough::: but so be it. As the kids say, “whatevs.”
CIA Director Bill Burns also just happened to be in Ukraine at the time of the “errant” missile firing. What timing…. And all of this comes on the heels of increased public awareness that the FTX cryptocurrency exchange was coordinating the movement of laundering of U.S. taxpayer funds from Ukraine into DC pockets via campaign contributions. Wow, more coincidences.
The Occam’s Razor of the situation would indicate that our U.S. proxy war against Russia in Ukraine is entering that dark and energy dependent time of the year, ie winter, and Russia is not being defeated in their securing of the pro-Russia eastern Ukraine region. So, some knuckleheads in the DoS office of plausible deniability, in coordination with some knuckleheads in the CIA office of plausible deniability, decided to try and pull in some more NATO elements with operation “errant missile into Ukraine that we will blame on Putin.”
Brilliant plan guys… except for the whole potential for NATO nuclear war part.
Luckily for the normies in Ukraine, they avoided the downstream consequence, likely operation vaporization, after reasonable people -few though they may be- said, it might not be a good idea for the whole let’s go to war with Russia in winter thing.
Yep, unfortunately that’s the reality of our current state dept geopolitical outlook, in combination with the ideological thirty-somethings that are running out of Hollywood actors to show up and fundraise.
D I R T B A G S
Got called out for trying to start a war… This is not a small matter but the media will not care.
Not care! They thrive on war! Drives up the ratings.
These people want a war so badly. Can’t kill people fast enough.
Because they’re greed is insatiable
Well 17 trillion between Blackrock and Vanguard, is not enough
@ Puzzled…..lokks like you’ve read agenda 21…….1/2 billion population.
Mission Creep.
Many look at it briefly and shrug.
NATO has said–if we lose this war it will be the end of NATO.
That’s a pretty profound statement.
I will not be surprised if DC decides to send our Troops.
I urge people to pay more attention.
The money laundering is bad.
Sending our Sons and Daughters to War to fight for Ukraine is beyond horrendous.
Our troops are there.
NATO needs to disband. At this point, they are a terrorist organization led by our CIA/State Dept.
Ukraine, Russia, most people don’t know the difference. Sad.
Fake War
Wouldnt be surprised if they asked Poland for permission first. We are living in a time of great pretending.
Dr. Weasel and Mini He
Teenage mutant ninja turtles.
Looks like O’Biden is trying to sniff Zelinsky’s hair through that there helmet. LOL.
Which Polish entity? What permission? Whose permission? Along with Britain initially, which Polish entity did not wait?. In fact, almost immediately, simultaneously did not wait for facts to develop started rattling swords about the need to invoke article 5 of the NATO Charter. No doubt Polish leaders in Warsaw are not in the mood to negotiate; having had lot of Polish troops killed in Ukraine over the last month. Western media pounced immediately; reporting with more media repeating frantically that Russia fired a missile at a target in Poland. Russia responded with initial pictures of the “device” that landed in Poland noting it appears to show a S-300 anti-air defense missile.
Does it make sense then that Poland issues a rebuttal firmly stating .. NO, it was Ukraine … – putting an end to an apparent false flag to blame Russia for firing the missile just for the sole purpose on a pretext to invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty and bring the rest of NATO into the war to stop Russia? Meanwhile, Zelensky gave a schizophrenic speech about the missiles smashing throughout Ukraine; mentioning how Russian missiles have knocked out electrical power in many cities, which also
affects the ability to supply water and heat to more than 10 million Ukrainians. Do people see his odd claim within the same speech boasting that Western air defense systems have shot down most of these Russian missiles. Really? All we have to do is look at the two successive missiles striking Kiev. Does anyone know where the NSAAMs are deployed? Do they look to in a position to stop these strikes in Kiev?
The pandemic is fake too. Turn it Off. Im not going to entertain the psychosis
But still Trump’s fault. Same thing. NATO backtracks – now admits it was not Russia – it was Ukraine – the big ‘BUT’ … still Putin’s fault
Wow! That pic says it all… “a picture is worth a thousand words”.
Happy Holidays
This is soooo funny!
Night of the Hunter!
Correction: Russia-Ukraine-War story
By Associated Press
November 16, 2022 at 3:22 p.m. EST
WARSAW, Poland — In earlier versions of a story published November 15, 2022, The Associated Press reported erroneously, based on information from a senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity, that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland and killed two people. Subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.
And then Hillary Clinton landed under sniper fire.
Meanwhile:
The New World Order is full steam ahead.
I get why the see why eh wants a military confrontation. War inc is a big business. I always knew the state department as the negotiating force of us policy. All the Libs want to jaw jaw and not fight fight. What we are seeing are forces in the us government aligned to bring about war. Why? To save sleepy joe? To find the industrial military complex? What strange bedfellows are afoot here. The hawkish Cheney / bush cabal and the lefty Obama / WEF crowd. I don’t trust any of them.
makes it harder when the Ukraine fires the same s300 missiles that Russia does. Makes false flags easier to stage.
The “anti-war left” is not at ALL the same as what we all think of as the “leftists in government”.
This is another aspect of the Uniparty, and their success in dividing us into groups.
The Uniparty, D or R wants profitable “military operations” cause its a cash cow, and way to effect the changes in the World they want, to institute their One World WEF order.
The leftist politicians, as we think of them, have JUST as much contempt for their “base” as “Conservative” politicians do.
Each makes speaches, and campaigns to, and pretends to speak FOR a segment of the population, but neither really means what they say.
The “leftist” base are just as betrayed by the Uniparty D politicians, as the MAGA base is, by RINO Republicans, the left is just less aware of how they are being betrayed.
ZeroHedge Reply to AP on News Story Correction that used an anonymous source:
Thank You AP, for correcting a story that nearly launched WW3. Now maybe you can also name the “senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity” and who may have had ulterior motives in bringing the world to the edge of nuclear war.
Gina Haspel.
The “Whale,” or better known as Stefan Halper, blew up the Nord Stream Two pipeline….takes a lot of blubber to go that deep.
Yeah, next ask about that bogus call for Delusional Joe as President elect.
Nuland
these War Pigs make me sick …
Apologies, but just had to post this here. Has it ever been different?? Dogs of war – Pink Floyd.
Well that’s fine, but Pink Floyd has always been anti country and incessently attacking the middle and right for causing all the world’s ills. The left will ultimately destroy the world as we know it.
“Cry ‘havoc’, and let slip the dogs of War!”
shakespeare
same situation with anything that goes wrong here….it is “Trump’s Fault”…..you KNOW the Dimm/commie/GOPe NEVER do anything wrong so when something is awry it must be because someone else caused it
We need lots of people like this calling out the lies and deceit. Things like this could be the kinds of things that will save the world.
But if they really want it, they will shut down the internet.
Someone ought to give the UN a heads up on this.
They’re still reading from the original script.
Thank you Sundance.
Meh…….wouldn’t think the Ukies would even be firing the “old” stuff by now……didn’t they get the latest and greatest shipped overnight to “defend against the aggressors”
Just realized my comment may be misunderstood to imply the Ukies didn’t actually launch said missile……that is NOT what my comment intended to convey……rather…..why WOULD “they”
Hopefully that clears things up . 🙂
Not if they sold the “good stuff” to the top bidder.
The “new stuff” were sold out the back door to the Mexican Cartels.
Some of the EU/NATO countries have voiced their concerns—weapons and munitions showing up in their countries.
Given the FTX fiasco, I am not sure they even wasted time and resources, converting $ into arms, shipping to Ukraine, selling arms and kicking back a cut to D.C.
Too cumbersome, and takes too long.
$ to Ukraine, Zalenski converts to crypto, transfers a cut back to DC.
MUCH more efficient…..
Which gets to WHO “hacked” and “cleaned out” the crypto accts?
Did DC pols get “ripped off” of the graft?
Did Zalenski?
And WHO ended up with the $, or did it just evaporate, and nobody got it?
As always Dutchman, good comment and questions
did you miss the part about the now failed RTX cryptocurrency shipping most of that appropriated money, after it was laundered, back to the Dimm/commies here in the US?………they did wait to release the story till AFTER the election of course
Nah, didn’t miss the crypto/klepto story…I was just being a bit coy.
Let’s face it, we’ll never get the full story/truth. A whoops my bad, or is it whoops my vlad….is all ya gonna git, and at least this time nobody hit the hill dog easy button.
Ukraine has no-where near enough anti- missile rockets to defend against the constant Russian missile attacks . ( Mostly on civilian targets. ) ……. The modern stuff is at this stage mostly just promised , not in use by them. …… Ukraine is using old Russian S-300 air defence rockets to intercept incoming Russian missiles . These defence missiles are fired in all directions depending on their launch site and the incoming missiles tragectory. It is possible in theory that wreckage of one could land in Poland. ……. NATO has used this fact to avoid the matter , and will find ” confirming ” evidence.. ……. Russia , running short of attack missiles , and not needing to defend against incoming missiles , has converted their S-300 missiles to ground attack use. These are not very accurate and often land far from their intended target. They are being launched from Belorussia and could reach Poland. …… This is also possible and far more likely. ….. Whether it was poor aim or Russia seeing what they could get away with is not known. …… Don,t let your justifiable hate of the Democrats blind you to the fact that Putin has been invading other countries for decades. Putin did pause this for 4 years when President Trump was in power.
Sounds like maybe you feel I have taken favor, I have not.
I felt I was merely pointing out the incessant narrative has been to fund and provide modern equipment to the Ukraine.
Therefore, why would they be using the same (old) equipment as Russia.
Oh that’s right, it makes it easy to pin it all on Russia when the perception has been that Ukraine has all newer/modern equipment. (Couldn’t possibly be them)
I certainly don’t expect honest reporting from anyone claiming to know with certainty the origin of the missile in question, given the circumstances above.
Aussie,
I am not taking issue with you personally, I just have a hard time with the reckless nature of immediate “blame” given the high stakes involved. (Edit: to clarify “blame” by reporters/etc.)
When biden starts WWIII, congress will have to enact the draft because no one wants to join bidens woke military which is currently stretched pretty thin. This wont go over very well with the hoi polloi, especially when the body bags start coming stateside.
The odds are that WWIII would be over before the first draft notices went out which wouldn’t be complied with anyway.
who wouldn’t comply with it? is that finally the red line that we won’t allow to be crossed? because we sure have let every single other one come and go with nothing but consent as far as the eye can see…
And will they rig it to draft predominantly from red districts/states.
Best chance to win a more fair fight.
a Selective Service activation requires a formal declaration of war….at least Congress will have to take some responsibility too……something they have NOT done in the arena of war since 8 Dec 1941
This has been on my radar for months.You have no idea how terrified I and millions of mothers and grandmothers (like me with twin 17 year old grandlads) are of this possibility. No idea at all.
Our grandparents generation knew.
My grandmother, my fathers mother, sent two sons into war.
My Dad went into the Army and fought in Europe and his brother, just a year younger served in the Navy in the Pacific.
She did not talk openly about her fears but did write them to her sister in letters that I now have.
She was so fearful for the both of them, and she was one of the lucky ones that had both boys come home safely.
I think mothers and grandmothers have always feared this.
They would serve with honour.
But what our mothers and grandmothers did NOT have to worry about were their lads being injected with a toxic, deadly bioweapon as soon as they enlisted.
THIS is what terrifies me, Chloe.
Double that Betsy for we war-torn vets of all their previous wars; for even our grand-daughters! It seems inevitable for these blood-lusting heathen politicians to justify their laundered money by activating the meat-grinders and body bags who “fought for the flag and glory of America” bullshit!
All of them, Grandpa. We’ve had useless bloody wars which have cost us dearly.
This one would be a vanity project with no worthwhile purpose whatsoever.
I hope those preening, tweeting do nothings in Congress understand that the sacrifice of our children and grandchildren for this war, instigated and fueled by the United States would bring the wrath of this nation down on their heads.
Oh yes I do, as I also have 17 yr old twin grandsons! High School seniors hoping to go to college next year, not war!
You are a great prayer warrior Betsy; your grands will be safe one way or another! Peace of mind and heart to you!
They will use the voter registrations. People who died in Normandy will fight in WWIII
Pretty simple way to avoid being drafted for those so inclined. Just don’t get vaccinated.
Direct war between NATO and Russia will result in the end of NATO, the EU, and possibly human civilization in the worst case scenario. Western arm forces are currently pretty hollowed out (France has like only 3 days supply of artillery ammo in the event of a full scale war for example) and our economies are on the way down. Sigh.
you can be sure that Russia and China are keeping better track of NATO inventory and oil than we are.
The collective west are like children-performing for approval, making up stories to get others in trouble and telling mom someone is being mean. Lavrov must be dying to talk to an adult. The absence of serious (and competent) people is shocking.
This is supposed to be Poland 911.
These are the same people who dodged the War in Vietnam.
Like Dick Cheney and George W. Bush and John Bolton?
“So, we have a Ukraine missile fired now supposedly fired “errantly” in a westward direction into Poland, while trying to intercept a Russian missile fired from the east..””
‘Only’ 3200 mils out.
I think that particular battery was manned by Captain Parmenter, Sergeant O’Rourke and Corporal Agarn
3,200 Angular Mils (µ) = 180 Degrees (°)
Russian missiles are launched from Belorussia ( Adjacent to Poland ) in the north and from the Black Sea and Crimea in the south. They also come from Russia in the east.
Show us your source for that info please.
Let’s give them some conventional ICBMs maybe that Nitwit will hit DC
Unfortunately, Trump mentioned that Russia looks like they launched a missile into Poland during his speech last night. I immediately said NO!….without knowing anymore at the time than anyone else (I credit Sundance and being a regular reader on the site)…just shows how Trump isn’t quite cynical enough to successfully remove the traitorous scum.
He bought it hook, line and sinker. He just doesn’t think people are that diabolical…it’s a short coming of his in my opinion. How’s he going to take out the Deep State without being able to smell this BS a mile a way. That’s how they did him in during his first administration. Just saying.
hook, line, sinker? Referencing fake news is buying into whatever hook, line, sinker. Shortcoming? You’re just saying. Why not pause on the judgmental bit stopping at your first full stop?
You missed the point. Trump’s shortcoming is he plays by rules…he believes people are trustworthy and takes them at their word. That’s his shortcoming when dealing with diabolical traitorous scum. If he had better instincts he would have set out to crush them from the beginning like i hoped he would. He did not and they took him to the wood shed. Jeez.
I noticed that-you would have thought whoever prepped him would have set him straight-I certainly knew that it was likely not Russian as of his speech. Or he could have misspoke instead of saying “ is” meant “is not”
The ‘mispoke’ thing is exploited and misused. Once called out, this has been what we always get 100% from those who spin tales (or as President Trump explicitly label as ‘fake news’ from day one. Media got used to getting away with it. Any fake media ever immediately go back and delete or issue correction when the facts are presented by legit sources? If they did, what they issued are already out for consumption and to be regurgitated. How many already ingested the crap? Those few that return to issue ‘correction’ only do so when they are specifically called out. Mostly when the enmasse losing-subscriptions, rebuttals and loss of revenue hit them. Apologies? Not even – we get ‘computer/employee glitch’, ‘mispoke’ – and all tokens they assume are good enough substitutes for apology. Next time around, the repeat process/rinse process continues. President Trump mentions ‘news’ without mentioning fake news – he does not have to make labels or make judgment on what’s out there for those who have not yet read the crap. If I had not already read the news President Trump mentioned during his speech, would I not follow up, doing research? In fact, before the crap was rebutted by Poland, many people already asked relevant questions as to does this make any sense? It was apparent to many that Zelensky’s propaganda machine just churned out another hit piece, unable to cloak his ill-hidden agendas.
It does ” look like ” a Russian missile. They are coming from Belorussia ( near Poland ) in the north. Also from the Black Sea and Crimea in the south. They also come from the east. ” Looks like ” was a correct statement.
Agreed
Bungles Biden and the corrupt money grabbing idiots he hangs out with are likely to start WW3 if this keeps up.
FJB, FTX and the permanent DC Criminal Class.
The FTX thingy now begs an unasked question…a young 30 something thinking he could play with ‘the big boys’? And come out unscathed? He will be luck if jail is all he gets….
Who’s toes did Madoff step on…or the dudes at Enron?
It smells bigly.
Or was it planned and those 3 above were the unwitting, pre-selected fall guys?
Asking for a friend….
In the Daily Mail and elsewhere, the headlines about Russia’s firing a missile into Poland were hysterical…as usual. They were the same with Nordstream. And they were quick to print them.
Outside of reading more calm analysis of what happened and why logistically Russian involvement was highly unlikely, I thought the whole thing just screamed “false flag”.
Someone wants WWIII very badly. And it’s not Russia.
The comments of the looney left on the CBC site yesterday had the atmosphere of “we will be home by Christmas” of the Brits 108 years ago.
One clown said every NATO country should send 60K troops to the Polish Russian border in support of Poland.
I am surprised not whit. Imbeciles.
WEF. They want a lot of death quickly so they can have their New World Order/Great Reset. They have actually outlined how they will do it… so far Covid treatments/lack of killed a bunch but it wasn’t enough. So, nuke war/ww3 and or massive hunger will be next.
It was on their website.
When at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.
They are the gods now, so they have no problem admitting this is actually how they see themselves.
Given the hideous number of food processing plants which have mysteriously burned, fertilizer plants and the trains their product is shipped on have burned (the plants) or derailed (the trains travelling on a straight track, no bends), and refineries which have “gone on fire”… I’d say they have decided Holodomor II is the best, most efficient option for ridding their precious earth (that is their personal fiefdom) of the humanity they hate.
I don’t understand why there isn’t more outrage about WEF. It is not like they are hiding what their goals are.
Most people have no idea what the WEF is! They never heard of it! Most people are wildly uninformed!
I would not trust any one of the “world leader’s” seated at that table with a pop gun or a pea shooter.
A well placed spit ball is a nice thing for return fire…
Anyone who believed that the Russians would start a shooting war with Poland and NATO, and that they’d do it by launching just *two missiles* to blow up a *grain silo*, followed by sitting back and waiting to see what the Polish/NATO response would be, is an idiot. Anyone with a functioning brain could instantly figure out that the missiles were Ukrainian and that the incident was either an accident or a false flag attempt to draw NATO into the war.
It seems to me that if Russia were to decide to use rockets every city in Europe and the USA would receive……. but….not some little village in Poland. They are called hyper-sonic and there is no defense against them.
As to blame? that according to my thinking should be put firmly on the heads of those that gave their word on the Minsk treaty lying all the time…….and persecuted so many of the region.
They also simply ignored Russia’s pleas to end this thing peacefully before it even started. Now so many will freeze to death in Ukraine this winter
Ukraine might want to consider suing for peace before the Ukranian people, and the Dnieper River, freeze.
Good point
I’m sure Bono and Penn are packing t shirts right now and clearing visas with the SoS for a photopalooza at Zelenskyys favorite railway station. That should fix this “my bad” from the media. The dirtbag the fed the story to the press should have hus name leaked and fired immediately. Not another tax payer dime to this cleptocracy.
I am for a U2 having a concert in Donbas anytime.
I see what you did there!
So I guess we’re obligated to attack Ukraine since they attacked in NATO ally, right???
Well, that could be a problem given the heads that would explode as the liars tried to figure out how to get past your question while not being laughed at hysterically.
No Ukraine just gets “reparations”
I agree with your suspicions, that it was a purposeful launch to try to blame Russia for an attack on Poland…..LOL!
It was a silly attempt. If Russia was going to fire missiles at Poland in an attempt to hurt Poland, it wouldn’t be to hit a farm wagon.
The White House says it was still the fault of Russia because if Russia wasn’t in Ukraine, Ukraine wouldn’t be firing anti-aircraft missiles.
Zelensky continues to deny that the missile came from Ukraine. But a NATO diplomat said regarding Poland, “This is getting ridiculous. The Ukrainians are destroying [our] confidence in them. Nobody is blaming Ukraine and they are openly lying. This is more destructive than the missile.”
Ukraine and the US State Department constantly lie. But in this case, the lies can’t be covered up as easily.
Nothing silly about it if two people were actually killed.
Agreed, but “bigger picture” this again seems to me as lame, infantile, amatuerish.
Just like Nordstream, after the initial false narrative, its obvious what happened.
I can’t help feeling ALL of this is being done by people who read up on Human history, and are TRYING to be like the propogandists of history, but their,…just not doing it, very well.
Its like they are IMITATING Goebels, rather than BEING Goebels, if that makes sense.
It’s like a television actor’s idea of propaganda, right on the eve of the Ramstein meeting held today.
Sorry I didn’t say it well. The deaths of the two people were tragic.
But it was silly in the sense that they were going to try to pass the blame to Russia as if Russia were making an attack on Poland. There was one of NATO’s best radar stations 40 kilometers from where the missile landed which would be able to pinpoint the launch location and trajectory of the missile.
“The White House says it was still the fault of Russia because if Russia wasn’t in Ukraine, Ukraine wouldn’t be firing anti-aircraft missiles.” Essentially this is the overall folie à deux we have been increasingly facing; when defender is to blame while perpetuator becomes victim.
Same Liberal mentality that says GUNS kill people or that punishes someone for defending themselves. Their logic is so convoluted that they’re reasoning becomes nonsensical.
Time to start measuring with the same standards for everybod
Happened: Ukraine kills 2 people in Poland: Reaction oops sorry, our bad
What they said happened: Russia kills 2 people in Poland: Reaction: NATO is engaged, Section 4, an attack on one is an attack on all! Mobilize the troops! WW3 death to Russia!
Technically speaking NATO should now declare war to Ukraine as Ukraine attacked Poland.
Now THAT is a sensible rationalization.
‘Technically speaking NATO should now declare war to Ukraine as Ukraine attacked Poland.’ – Interested Patriot
Secret code name of NATO’s counterattack on Ukraine: Operation USS Liberty.
Yes fighting against “General Winter” in Russia is a really bad idea.
.
Russia has a good track record for repelling attacks that time of year.
Let the winter games begin.
International diplomacy [lower photos] is now conducted in T-shirts and cheap fleece jackets.
It’s what the late author Paul Fussell used to call ‘prole drift.’
Sam Bankman-Fried took prole drift to its ultimate conclusion, showing up in nasty, sweaty gym clothes (hairy legs bared) for a panel discussion with ‘business casual’ accoutered 20th century relics Tony Blair and Bill Clinton.
Aesthetic sensibility alone should counsel one to steer clear of every one of these shady characters.
Eric: With the new round of $37.7 billlion, the US Treasury will have to buy more ink for the printing presses
Don’t worry… the money isn’t dirty. It’s all being laundered.
I hate him! Look at what they are hiding now. Unemployment is above 20% and growing
Instead the Biden administration is saying that consumer spending increased……sigh.
Yes consumer spending is up, due to Biden inflation!
Is this like when Hawaiians got an emergency message that they had incoming missiles, and they should quickly say their goodbyes?
Whatever Happened to the Antiwar Left?Now, as we face the prospect of new global conflict, it is everyone else’s turn to say “Not In Our Name.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/whatever-happened-antiwar-left/5799132
But many in today’s world are conditioned not to ask questions or be critical as to be verbally attacked or worse.
No harm done.
With the 24 hr news cycle (or less), they got the false storyline out there that they wanted.
Now some high percentage of low info smucks will carry the belief that Russia attacked Poland.
A lie travels all the way around the world before the truth………..
I know it ended up not being a russian missile but the initial narrative was so and the war drums began beating louder.
So if Russia had a malfunctioning missile cross into Poland and kills two people, it’s called an act of war. Yet killing hundreds of thousands in our country by purposely sending fentenal across the border isn’t an act of war. FJB
Rix, please allow me to get your last sentence closer to home. ‘Yet by killing 15000 civilians (Donbas) in their own country, by their own military (Ukrainian), supported by our CIA after the Maiden Coup isn’t an act of War.
War is what keeps the $$$ flowing into the pockets of corrupt politicians . It’s one of the reasons they hated Trump so much trying to initiate peace wherever he went.
And out of the other side of their mouths threw out accusations he would start WWIII. Evil, evil people!
they also went after him with a vengeance when he went after the corruption in Ukraine which is when they initiated the FIRST of their illegal impeachments
Propaganda is a lie and a lie is Disinformation, and Disinformation is a War Crime. Therefore, Propaganda is a War Crime.
Now according to Obama’s HR 4310, it’s legal for our government leaders to use Propaganda on the American public therefore it’s legal to use Disinformation on the American public and since Disinformation is a War Crime then it must be legal for our government leaders to commit War Crimes
 
Andriy Shapovalov insisted that persons who deliberately spread disinformation are information terrorists
Now since it’s legal for our government leaders to commit War Crimes. (repeat from above)
Then using Shapovalov definition above are leaders can be both a War criminal, an Information Terrorist.
Oh, I feel better now
Our Government has engaged in war crimes, much worse than just using propoganda.
War is a crime, by its nature.
CIA is an organization designed, formed, and operational in committing war crimes on-going to “promote American interests”………it is in fact a quasi-government agency working on the behalf of corporations to benefit their bottom lines
Obama and Bush to Present Seminars About Tackling Online “Misinformation”
https://www.europereloaded.com/obama-and-bush-to-present-seminars-about-tackling-online-misinformation/
Is rhis a joke? It can’t be serious!
Throwing down the gauntlet on Bucha
Scott Ritter challenges Andriy Shapovalov to debate war crimes allegations
Scott Ritter
Nov 4
On July 14, 2022, Andriy Shapovalov convened an international roundtable on countering disinformation, during which time he released the CCD “blacklist” containing my name.
There, Shapovalov claimed the people on that list—myself included—were guilty of deliberately spreading disinformation, and as such should be labeled as “information terrorists,” subject to be tried as “war criminals.”
https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/throwing-down-the-gauntlet-on-bucha
On 12/29/12, President Obama signed HR 4310, the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. Section 1078 (thomas.loc. gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.4310:) of the bill authorizes the use of propaganda inside the US, which had previously been banned since 1948 when the Smith-Mundt Act was passed.
On 12-21-12, the Senate passed the NDAA of 2013l. On 12/29/12, President Obama signed HR 4310, (at night, during the holidays, in the dark, so that no one would even know); the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. Section 1078 (thomas.loc. gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.4310:) of the bill authorizes the use of propaganda inside the US, which had previously been banned since 1948 when the Smith-Mundt Act was passed. The media was also reclassified as “entertainment”.
(b) Rule of Construction- Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the Department of State or the Broadcasting Board of Governors from engaging in any medium or form of communication, either directly or indirectly, because a United States domestic audience is or may be thereby exposed to program material, or based on a presumption of such exposure. Such material may be made available within the United States and disseminated, when appropriate, pursuant to sections 502 and 1005 of the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (22 U.S.C. 1462 and 1437), except that nothing in this section may be construed to authorize the Department of State or the Broadcasting Board of Governors to disseminate within the United States any program material prepared for dissemination abroad on or before the effective date of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012.
[Note that section B expressly allows the use of propaganda domestically, as long as there is some possibility that at least one non-US-citizen will eventually receive the given communication]
This bill appears to not only open the door to legalization of the dissemination of propaganda in America, but would also legalize covert infiltration of media organizations by government agents and even the creation of media outlets that legally operate entirely as government fronts.
https://12160.info/page/flashback-first-time-since-1948-propaganda-is-now-legal-in-the-u-
Obama has been a vocal supporter of content moderation and has called “disinformation” a threat to democracy. From your link
Limiting free speech is a direct violation of the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. No matter what you name it.
I’m sure they will impeach Trump again for instigating this attack on Poland from Ukraine using an old Soviet rocket.
To quote Vindman verbatim, “My cousin’s sister’s LGBTQWERTY+ friend saw on Tik Tok that there is a reel to reel tape of Trump telling Zelensky….and I quote, use it or lose it.”
I believe there is a “War in Ukraine”
NATO war on Russia would be devastating to the russkies. [If they have enough weapons left over]
Sure, EU capitals would be smoldering heaps and the atlantic and pacific fleets rusting at the bottom of the ocean, but we sure would show that Putin guy he can’t mess around. And no russkie energy, metals, wheat either.
It’d be so worth it. Just like 500k dead Iraqi kids was “worth the sanctions” per our own Sec State Albright.
You’d do this if you wanted to serve up much of the world on a silver platter to the likes of the CCP or WEF.
I hope you are being sarcastic. “Show that Putin guy”? Show him again how fast the west’s multinational corporations, banks, and hedge funds could steal Russian companies and resources, leaving the people starving with 2700% inflation like we did in the 1990’s?
Yeah, the US is really good at showing Putin things. Do you know that the “grain deal” is not to help Ukraine, but to help US and western agricultural conglomerates; 71% of all Ukraine’s agriculture is controlled by 10 companies, many of which are in the US.
Let’s just admit that Russia exposed the Ukraine world play ground, turned it upside down. No more no less. It was so overwhelming to many peoples of the world that the very thought of war now is absurd.
Zelensky is shorter than Sean Penn?
my grandmother used to say “never trust a short guy; he is always trying
to prove how tall he is”
John Adams – Height: 5 feet, 7 inches
Benjamin Franklin – Height: 5 feet, 9 inches
Alexander Hamilton – Height: 5 feet, 7 inches
James Madison – Height: 5 feet, 4 inches
Jesus – Height: 5 feet, 1 to 5 feet, 5 inches
Probably average heights at that time. Heights have increased due to better eating and Healthcare and longer lifespan.
Ideal Heights and Nose size etc…. was something Hollywood made up as what society should think is normal. They are now pushing fat, dark, and gay. Back in the day, before the invention of television, these stereotypes didnt really exist. Character is what counts. Turn It Off.
You “forgot” George Washington- 6′-3″ at least!
Protocols of the …..
Ukraine shot the missel in Poland one dud, Zel baby is a criminal installed leader, let lose to start a war and raise funds to steal, Zel baby is a funnel more money pouring thru Ukraine then BLM got, same mind set thieves have to steal.
Complicated business, dancing with WAR.
And the more players, the more complicated.
Was Poland aware of this little operation, were they apprised AFTER yhe fact by US, or did they figure it out, on their own.
It would SEEM “Logical” a very shakey term, in these circumstances, that ‘nobody’ in the Polish Govt. WANTS to go to war with Russia, and IF thats the case, this was an “op” against POLAND, and the NATO “alliance” as much as anybody.
Poland and the NATO Countries have got to, at some point ‘figure out’ that the U.S. CIA operations are NOT acting in Polands and NATO’s best interests, at what point do they just break with the U.S. or are they so dependant on the U.S. that they continue to pretend?
This is like the Nordstream sabatoge, everyone knows WHO was behind it; which NATO countries knew about it ahead if time, and in some way participated, even if turning a blind eye, is irrelevant to the bigger picture.
Insane game the WEF’ers are playing, at what point, if any will the NATO alliance fracture?
Will it be a populist revolt, as people freezing and starving rise up?
stay tuned,..
At least we may take comfort in the fact that history teaches us building a propaganda campaign around bizarre military incidents involving Poland cannot lead to world war and the deaths of tens of millions of people.
Time to invoke Article 5…against Ukraine.
If Poland won’t do it, why should we?
Because Poland knows there’s nothing to be gained. The best policy would to be walk away, because there is no way any intervention won’t escalate into a hugh land war that will have the PROMISE of Nuclear Retaliation.
That video about Bosnia was less than 23 years ago, where Wesley Clark almost caused World War 3. Russia is no longer Communist. They aren’t threatening the United States, so why go to war with them over territory that was tied to Russia since the time of the Czars.
The only people that would benefit are people connected literally to Brandon.
No. It’s not worth it. Let Europe deal with it if they want to.
I was kidding.
Well, I still think you’re cool in my book! 🙂