Tomorrow, Sunday November 6th, President Trump will be holding a rally in Miami-Dade, Florida, for the slate of republican candidates. All of the main republican candidates, including both Florida senators, who rely on the diverse America-First MAGA movement for election victories will be there…. Except Ron DeSantis.
Now, I get it. I mean, I understand why the people managing Florida Governor Ron DeSantis cannot have their principle appearing at a MAGA rally to receive the endorsement of President Trump, an almost certain 2024 candidate they are planning to challenge a few months later. However, I get it because I see the roadmap they’ve laid in front of him; a roadmap he is following.
But again, it takes a level of intellectual honesty to accept the basic point that if Ron DeSantis was not planning to run for higher office, or at least leave that option available, there is nothing to lose for DeSantis to appear with Trump. The only downside to attending the Miami MAGA rally is if DeSantis would want to challenge President Trump a few months later. Honesty is the cornerstone of accepting things as they are, not as we would wish them to be.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will not be at the Miami-Dade County Fair and Exposition Center, because the team managing Ron DeSantis national branding campaign don’t want him there.
Since July/Aug {Go Deep} the new management in charge of DeSantis have been positioning him as the Trump alternative, the more acceptable republican candidate, ie. the club candidate
Instead, the republican club and Wall Street financed “Friends of Ron DeSantis” superPAC ($150+ million) have organized another optical event in the much deeper red, Southwest Florida (advertisement left) [LINK HERE].
Notice who is paying for the DeSantis event. Parker Yancey McCollum is an American Americana and country singer-songwriter based in Texas, and if you follow the granular details of the GOPe branding effort, you might notice the DeSantis management team have deployed the strategy of hitching the governor’s wagon to popular music stars [Luke Bryan example].
This specific branding approach is familiar to professional political consultants and those who follow the deep weeds around ‘imaging’ in political campaigns. The objective is to use the popularity of the Hollywood or music star as a draw for the crowd. The managed politician benefits from the optical illusion of a large crowd gathered to support the candidate.
The image and branding approach is useful in avoiding a campaign event at a venue where the crowd doesn’t show up, which looks horrible for the candidate.
While President Donald Trump rallies the MAGA movement in Miami-Dade, specifically going to the formerly deep blue region to drive the proverbial stake through the heart of the left-wing political machine in Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis will hold court within deep red southwest Florida, using Parker McCollum to hopefully offset the optics of DeSantis absence at the MAGA rally.
Rising country music star Parker McCollum was not scheduled to perform in SWFL [Schedule Here] and the DeSantis event is advertised, promoted and financed by the GOPe SuperPac ‘Friends of Ron DeSantis’. The motives and intents being the DeSantis branding and management team remain clear to those with eyes to see.
To emphasize… Governor Ron DeSantis is a good governor, a good manager, well liked and should be well supported by the Florida voting base. There are several large issues for Florida that voters are counting on Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature to tackle quickly in 2023.
Florida has a major housing crisis combined with a serious issue of unaffordable insurance rates crushing the finances of Florida residents. For many Floridians their homeowner’s insurance costs, now the highest in the nation, are equal to -or higher than- their mortgage payments, and it’s getting worse. Energy costs have skyrocketed and that is making overall inflation that much more impactful.
The costs to live in Florida are putting an even more severe burden on those with a fixed income. All of the working-class residents and retirees in Florida are feeling the issue, and there are things the state can do to help.
Charlie Crist would be an absolute nightmare scenario for Florida, but thankfully his hopes of election victory next week are virtually nil. That is a good thing.
Florida needs Governor DeSantis to focus on Florida.
We are at a very critical juncture in the state and there are some major decisions that need to be made about the future of the state.
The national GOPe club looking to leverage Governor Ron DeSantis as the more acceptable alternative to Donald Trump’s America-First economic platform in 2024, are in a general sense selfish billionaire Wall Street and multinational types [Example].
That said, if in midyear 2023 the professional financial and political class leverage their donations to Ron DeSantis to abandon his post in order to help them nationally combat the MAGA agenda…. DeSantis will not only lose the contest for the republican presidential nomination, but he will also destroy his political career in an instant.
I know the DeSantis national management and branding team read here, so be forewarned. Step out of your cocktail class donor bubble for a few weeks and listen to the people who matter. If you push the principal to repay the $200+ million in donations by attempting to combat the MAGA agenda – you, your candidate, and his tenuously constructed reputation will be destroyed.
Wisdom would dictate that Governor Ron DeSantis work on the critical economic issues for Florida that will have ramifications and impacts for many years forward. Prove himself skilled at large economic problem solving, and then position your principal to receive the support and appreciation of the hometown MAGA base for 2028….
….But step into the national arena for 2024 and DeSantis will be destroyed by angered MAGA like a feather in a hurricane.
Watching…
WASHINGTON DC – […] Save America PAC raised a total of $24.7 million during the third quarter— a 38% increase from the second quarter. A source familiar with the fundraising told Fox News that 98.8% of those donations totaled less than $200 each.
Trump raised $10.2 million in August after the FBI’s unprecedented raid on his private residence at Mar-a-Lago—the most Save America PAC had raised in a month since Trump was in office. (link)
He’s already on the down slope by not attending the Trump rally.
Too Bad!
What a shame for Ron to destroy his chances to be elected nationally or statewide if he stays attached to the same clowns that brought us Romney and McCain. I identify as MAGA after voting as a Republican for 50 years. While DeSantis has lots of RINO bucks , Trump risks his personal fortune to right this sinking ship. That’s patriotism. That’s who I follow.
Me TOO….PATRIOTISM….
Patriotism?
Highest form is serving your country in the US Military.
DeSantis did and so did I.
Trump did not and neither has his sons.
So a JAG lawyer is serving the country?
I’d like to see the cases he did
DeSantis has chosen to ride the RINO train in order to get where he needs to go. That still doesn’t mean that he may get off at some time in the future and connect to the Trump train.
As they say, there’s a lot of ball left to play. My bet is that he will be “in the game” and we’ll get to see what he’s made of.
We live in very interesting times.
Damned Skippy!
DeSantis just Following in JEB Bush’s Footprints, so Exactly!
And Nothing Else at all!
I’ll never forget Jeb saying, “I have as many Conservatives mad at me as I have Liberals.
That means I am doing the Right Thing.”
And he could NOT have POSSIBLE been any more drastically WRONG!
“Longtime watchers of John Ellis Bush say what he did throughout the Terri Schiavo case demonstrates how he would operate in the Oval Office….”
Yeah, that perfectly describes what DeSantis is doing RIGHT NOW!.
And Terri really was conscious, and knew what Jeb was doing to her.
It will be a NOTICEABLE ABSENCE for DeSantis not to be in Miami with all the other FL State Repubs there. It’s a Stupid Political move. I like DeSantis but the Bushie Rinos will damage him in a futile attack on Trump for 2024
We OWE Trump his 2nd term,imo.
Maybe that’s the plan
We Owe Recognition of seeing that God Hand is with Trump, regardless of what we think of the details.
There is ALWAYS that, no matter how wonderful and awesome the leader is.
Just because God is Perfect and He picks a man or woman to lead the People, THAT doesn’t MAKE that person suddenly become as Perfect as God is, too!
We trust God with that man or NOT. But We are NOT the ones who can second guess GOD HIMSELF.
Certainly if something happens and someone goes too far off beam we need to get their attention, Just as His People did with most of their leaders from time to time!
But it is a far cry to ask God for Reassurance that we have NOT misunderstood GOD, and to ask Him what we can do to help set things Right, back on the Rails again.
That is an Entirely different thing to do, than to TOUCH HIS Anointed ones.
I am very sorry to say that you are right but you are right. It does not look good and does not sound good; to use an overused journo cliché: “it is baaaaaaaaad opti(cs)x and baaaaaaaaaad acousti(cs)x”. What a pity.
Better to learn it sooner than later!
No truer words spoken.
Um, he would to be invited, duh. smh
Actually, That is Great. That is a Giant Step to take.
It is hard to misconstrue. It was NOT an accident or an act of indecisiveness. It was NOT a Fumble!
It is Crystal Clear.
The Left is trying its darndest to find Trump guilty of anything that could disqualify him.
Final photo above says it all … an eloquent message without words.
I live in Florida. I feel DeSantis needs to carry his ass home and focus on his duties as Governor. He’d be no one had it not been for PTrump. I feel he’s betrayed us all. I will obviously vote for him for Governor but would never cast a vote for him as President. He can’t be trusted.
The only way I will vote for him is if President Trump endorses him.
Not even THAT, for me.
I’m shocked DeSantis is this stupid. Thank heavens He outed himself before Trump chose him as his Veep!
President Trump stands on his own.
DeSantis is always sucking up to someone.
Nuff said
That’s how I feel. And if he gets re-elected governor and then less than a year into his second term he declares his candidacy for the presidency I will trust him even less.
Trump is a proxy for all of us. He really is “standing in the way” of what leftists and their pals in “The Club” intend for us. He has taken huge hits from political enemies and exposed them for us all to see.
Bottom line for me: If he wants it, there ain’t nobody else I’ll support in ’24 – ever. He’s earned it, big time.
If Trump runs he’s the nominee and the winner. I’ll crawl on broken glass for him.
If DeSantis undercuts Trump somehow and gets the nom I will vote Third Party.
I’m long through with games.
I will put in AGAIN 200 hours of volunteering for our great President Trump. I too, would crawl over broken glass for the greatest president in US history!
AMEN! You said that GREAT! I really like the way you put it.
Thank you kindly.
On the other hand, Florida just banned transsexual surgery on minors…
These drugs had other applications. They’re banning a procedure not a substance.
If an Israeli company was selling say surface-to-air missiles, that law wouldn’t allow it.
But who knows these days.
Sounds like there is a evil in this world who tells the mentally ill they can change their sex and charge insurance companies a kings ransom to do it.
I know this is a US-centered website, and it’s great, but:
Answer: If you want to see the “test-bed” for The Club policies and techniques, look no further than Israel.
The WEF/Waxner Institute has spent many decades and fortunes grooming, installing and promoting key degenerates and political harlots resulting in an infestation of Israeli government, military, security, police, legal system including judges and prosecution and medical establishment, all propagated and cheerleaded by the owned media.
The majority of the citizens of Israel (including not only Jews but Christians, Druze and Moslems) are being victimized as The Club tries to close the vice on any escape from their control.
The results of the recent election clearly demonstrate a massive pushback from the populace despite all of the manipulation including attempted vote fraud (using a technique of alternate voting stations that usually have less strict chain-of-custody).
The Club took a beating because voter turnout was high and voters were aware of the maneuvers, hordes volunteered as certified poll-and vote-count monitors – ironically, mass numbers of The Club stooges were ejected because of some alleged screw-up in certifying them.
Just as a point of interest for example, the outgoing openly homosexual “Health Minister” recently passed a budget of 20 million shekels for “transgender vocal-chord surgery” – his party “Meretz” just got totally erased in the election, didn’t pass the election threshold, knocked out of the Knesset.
The winners of the election by a stable majority were only four parties: Likud (Netanyahu’s party), National Religious Zionist Party, Shas (Sephardic Religious Party), Yahadut Ha’Torah (Torah Jèws Party), with a total of 64 out of 120 seats.
As you always correctly implore, Sundance, voting is very important and even more important is honest voters volunteering their time and being involved in key supervision roles, for obvious reasons.
But, God Jehovah has a Covenant with Moses and with Benjamin Netanyahu.
And it is NOT yet Time for the Seven Years of Tribulation, and the Antichrist.
But there is the Book of Obadiah, and the Chapters of Ezekiel 38 and 39 – it won’t be so long before Gog comes dragging up, fighting against the hooks in his jaws.
We shall see what of the evil ones is still standing in Israel when these little “dust-ups” settle.
Israel has gone down in my estimation for supporting Ukraine. They have _real_ Nazi’s and Israel has always had a strong relationship with Russia.
They just brought BiBi – back – Israel voters wised up fast.
“Israel” didn’t support any pUkrainian Nàzìs, even the high-school dropout pothead alcoholic underpants model [look it up] now-former Prime Minister Yair Lapid and his gaggle of WEF/NWO?GloboHomo party and coalition partners didn’t have the sack to do anything but set up some first-aid tents and accept some “refugees” for maybe a month or two (and then quietly cancelled it all).
Not even the Moldavian thug and corrupt crook bar doorman [look that up, too] now-former Finance Minister Yvette LIEberman [that’s what people in Israel call him, for years] has no love whatsoever for that perverse midget totalitarian in Kiev.
Just because some of the presstitutes toe a line that their owner’s tell them to doesn’t mean it happened.
And I could write what most people in Israel say about Pukerain, but I don’t think that kind of language is appropriate for a comment here…
Biden jokes, including FJB are very popular in Israel.
Just means the Puberty Blockers will be allowed and used, and the surgery will be okayed if certain doctors perform it. It’ll just all be done on the down low.
Not for any significant time, left to them, any more. God is Finished with their ravaging of the Children, His Little Ones. His Anger is Quite Vast against that, right now.
That way, only Club politicians (Rino’s) will be castrati, not the kids.
I’m voting for Trump in 2024 and that’s all there is to it.
Ditto. MAGA red, white & blue through & through!
gonna have to do more then that comrade citizen.
Not only transparent, but transparently foolish.
Not only doesn’t PDJT need any entertainment “stars” to insure a large turn out, but most any “live entertainer” WISHES they could come close to getting the kind of audiences he regularly draws, even on short notice.
Hopefully RDS draws less attendance than a Biden event with circles.
Thing is, I don’t think RDS will “get the message” nor will his backers.
They have already amply displayed that they percieve us, and don’t understand us MAGA exactly like the Dems.
Dueling rallys, RDS is bringing it on himself, and deserves what he gets.
Not only does he have no chance in 2024, but as MAGA is the future, he will permanently seal his fate of EVER getting in the WH.
Yes, dueling rallies is such bad optics. What’s next? Will Ronbo boogie up to Beyouncy for cover at her next concert?
“When you’re where you should be all the time, and when you’re not ..you’re with.. some globalist RINOs who undermine MAGA, undermine MAGA and.. You’re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you.. don’t you ..don’t you.. don’t you.. ?”
DeSantis seems to believing the crap they are whispering in his ear. Those GOPe will screw him over in a heartbeat when they don’t need him anymore.
They are doing us a service, showing him off to us this way. For what he Really is…
YUGE crowd for Trump tonight in PA – and, as usual, no entertainers. I heard on Real America’s Voice – people sending them messages in GETTR that they are traveling from all over to get to the Florida rally tomorrow night, that includes other States as well as Florida. Is De Santis drawing out of State crowds to his entertainment rallies???
If Ron goes for the National race option … it will be for 3 reasons – ambition , Ambition and AMBITION- It is the siren song that motivates all real politicians ( of which Ron is clearly one ) and it is at the very core of all their decisions …
and at The Core of Our problems as a nation.
And Gross Stupidity, Blindness, and Gross EGO beyond Comprehension.
Time to dump on DeSantis again. Slow news day I guess.
Or DeSantis dumping on MAGA Florida this weekend is the news.
How?
Because no other gubernatorial candidate on the ballot now is snubbing PDJT and scheduling competing rallies in their state.
Seems newsworthy to me, and I am not even a Floridian.
???????????????????
NOT there for the Subpoena – NOT there for the MAGA Rallies….
What else do YOU need!
Very common here evidently
And…that’s a good thing. SD is keeping it real.
I bet you voted for Jeb!
I AGREE. He is definitely a JEBizite.
sorry loser —- In WI primary 2016, = djt. in 2016 and 2020 elections, same — you close minded cons sound more like close minded rinos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Extraordinarily well-EARNED.
Even far more evidently.
Like when your Mother picks your announced wedding day to take a World Tour, or something like that.
When DeSantis does this not only to Trump but to MAGA, traveling instead with his boyfriends in the RINO pacs.
instead of practicing bad snarkishness perhaps you should try to learn something instead.. j/s
More like sound advice to DeSantis. Sundance wants to save Ron from himself. Going against the MAGA King is political suicide.
These are the Chamber of Commerce RINOs who secretly hope they can derail Trump and MAGA. Ronbo is in for a YUGE surprise if he hitches his wagon to these greedy globalists.
Best you got?
All they got.
“All of the main republican candidates, including both Florida senators, who rely on the diverse America-First MAGA movement for election victories will be there…. Except Ron DeSantis.”
SD
Guess “Ron” doesn’t need the “diverse America-First MAGA movement for election victories after all”.
Ron ran off to Arizona for a photo op with a captive audience.
Ron ran off to Colorada for a photo op with a captive audience.
Ron ran off to (🤔 after he ran from) NY for a photo op with a captive audience
Now, Ron is running off to deeper red, Southwest Florida to yet another captive audience.
Ron sure is good at running off….
Standing with MAGA…
Not so much
Yep, these armchair Einstein’s are cutting their nose to spite their face. They are saying IF it comes Newsom vs. DeSantis in 2024, they will vote for Newsom? smh
You DeSantis PR team members are wasting your time here. Go find a nice RINO site to ply your phony GOPe wares to.
DeSantis won’t be the nominee.
What would be the Difference between the two of them? THEY two could do like the USA did at the very first of our Birth, The # 1 vote getter was President and #2 Presidential vote getter became the VEEP, for a long time, in the early days.
Those two make a Likely Pair.
We already had Trump and Pence. Enough of that. We don’t need or want another like it, with a Trump and DeSantis. No Sirree Bob!
Don’t put a donkey in the same traces with a Fine, Excellent Superlative Horse.
OH MY GOSH! WAIT! CHECK THIS OUT!
Death Valley Days
S13.E10 – The $25,000 Wager
First aired Dec 24, 1964
California Governor Leland Stanford bets an enormous amount of money in trying to prove a point about horse racing. He needs photographer Eadward Muybridge to get the proof he needs to win the wager.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0556756/
In fact, the Photographer so improved his camera and the Fast Stop-Action process that lead to Moving Pictures productions that when he Caught the winning horse at the finish line, ALL FOUR HOOVES were clearly seen to be Off the Ground at the same instant.
It was HUGELY Historic in it’s Day.
The owner of the Winner had kept telling them how Superlative his horse was, and that was the source of the Bet on the race that made the photographer push to refine his Processes to catch it LIVE and indisputably.
This was NOT FICTION but a True Story from the Old West.
It would be interesting to go back through the various constitutional amendments and important changes, to see who really proffered them, and for what reason…Like the change in the President/VP elections.
I also read an interesting article about the change in the Electoral College from its original form.
It won’t be DeSantis vs Newsome. It will be Trump vs DeSantis and I have no doubt about the outcome of that contest.
DeSantis is dumping on you by not focusing on Florida and by aligning himself with GOP rinos.
Thank you Sundance! … for being clear and unambiguous about your & our position regarding DeSantis vs. Trump in 2024!.
It’s no contest. Few people have ever earned the type of loyalty we have in Trump. I would crawl on around land mines to vote for him.
Indeed. Thanks, Sundance.
If he’s foolish enough to be led by the GOPe, then he deserves the hurricane.
Please stop the division of the GOP. Trump and DeSantis are both good for the party.
Battered Conservative No More
Sorry SD, comments like yours splitting the GOP is exactly what libs and rinos are looking for.
Grow up.
If only we made you a better sandwich….
Did you just tell Sundance to grow up. LOL.
Pathetic.
Like Bonchie from RCP, SD gets a bit over his skies at times, like most of us do.
like the starry-eyed bride you are blind to what is evident to everyone else…your groom cheated on you at the wedding
FO prikkkk
now your true character is revealed…….not sure even a loser like RDS would welcome support from one such as you but even the unredeemed need a home
When you have to resort to name calling and swearing, you’ve definitely lost the argument.
Hackneyed cliches are rarely effective, not a prayer when spelled wrong. 😂
When you have to resort to being the spelling police you’ve lost the argument.
Or maybe it takes maturity to admit what is real rather than what you wish it to be.
Maybe the posters here that don’t want to look at the truth need to grow up.
Thanks for a voice of reason. Apparently being on the ‘right’ side is not enough. I believe
that all here and conservatives agree what is right and wrong with our current admin/politics.
If we decide to minimize/cut down our brothers we ALL LOSE!!
RDS is not close to being Romney/Ryan — so stop the hatred Sundance,
LOL…..boy how out of touch are you?…that comment was for such as you who are unable to recognize REALITY……YOU SO FUNNY
Dex, he is exactly like them – Romney begged for his money when he was running for President and again when running for the Senate. Ryan – did his best to destroy Trump in 2016 [actually tried to force Trump out and get Pence in his place right before the vote] – Ryan also appreciated Trump help in 2016.
It’s NOT HATRED…It’s REALITY.
I don’t live in Florida but would certainly vote for Governor DeSantis. That said; as far as the 2024 election, I feel Governor DeSantis is out of his league. President Trump has the heart of the people across this nation. If Governor DeSantis’s team thinks sending him around the country to “endorse/support” the likes of Kari Lake and throw hats out to people in other arenas well… that’s embarrassing and cringeworthy. Kari Lake easily rivals Governor DeSantis and has also become known and respected in other states. She doesn’t need his help.
Governor DeSantis needs to stay in Florida and FINISH THE JOB!
I am in Arizona and cannot wait to vote Kari this week…… I was actually offended by DeSantis coming here to horn in on her appearance.
At ease Sarg.
I was a huge DeSantis supporter but sometimes the truth smacks you in the face. I and all my 25 family members in Florida will vote for him but if he is stupid enough to go up against President Trump, the President will eat him alive.Just the image of him standing next to our President will destroy him.
I want him to be a future leader for our party he needs to make the right decision and not run now.
Too bad! I once had high hopes for Ron DeSantis. Now, he’s setting himself up to be an absentee governor (still better than the Demonrat), as well as a FAILED 2024 presidential contender.
I guess he’s the RNC’s designated splitter.
Spoiler.
Not only that, but how does that affect the 2026 FL gubernatorial candidate? Do the greedy RINOs not think ahead? Or maybe they hoping that there can be an open RINO governor appointed to replace DeSantis?
DJT is like 8 inches taller – the optics aren’t good before they even speak.
Mmmmmm…. what you said! I’m gonna tell your mommie!!!!
Why is DeSantis not attending President Trumps rally at the request of DeSantis’ OWN SENATOR?
The GOP splits itself, been doing it for years.
DeSantis showed his true self re the FBI raid on Mara Lago – he was too cowardly to come out with a strong statement on how the FBI over-stepped — you can say a lot of things about Trump – but the man is no coward, he steps into the fray and takes the slings and arrows – DeSantis is afraid of the slings and arrows and is the typical yes man…. in this case who barely was elected to be governor and only was after Trump did more than one rally to bring him over the finish line — and DeSantis was all in on having Trump rally for him… in 2020
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-desantis-high-fives-trump-rally-florida-20201020-2rmn42hskjgxhlywdspp7psmki-story.html
He should have surrounded Mar a Lago with the Florida National Guard.
But there IS a split! I say this as a former committeewoman. There have ALWAYS been two Republican parties, just as you see now.
Patriots have been hoodwinked by the Country Club Pubbies, told they should be grateful for the crumbs they give us, for decades.
And our part was just to assent, and hope for better “next time”…”Work harder, give more, walk more precincts, register more Republicans”, etc.
No more.
what part of The Swamp bought and paid for DeSantis didn’t register with you?
which party do you refer?…..the 3Ms’ GOPe or PDJT’s GOP MAGA Patriots party?
Oh right – like “Maybe he (the GOP) will be different this time and stop smacking me around.”
And this one, “Well, I really did make him (GOP) mad. I kinda deserved that beating.”
Would anyone go for a Trump/DeSantis ticket? Now that would be good for the country.
stupidest suggestion anyone makes here….let us forfeit 29 EC votes to the Dimm/commies before the votes are taken so we can add a disloyal RINO to the ticket
It is “Ron” who divides the “Party” by holding a “Seperate” rally.
NOT GOOD
DeSantis loss for not showing up!
Was he invited? smh
Perhaps, it was a given DeSantis would show.
He is the Govenor, ya know.
Funny thing, DeSantis always seems to prefer being the “Star”.
All it will take is two primaries before DeSantis drops out and throws his support to Trump. DeSantis will never know what hit him!
I think you have this one wrong.
This man is not slime.
Any maneuvering is because he thinks he can do a better job.
And he probably can. He knows this game and he is here to play.
See my comment above …
Agree. Big supporter of DJT, but his ego prevented him from being more successful during his term, and lack of political proxy. His next term, if elected, should be much improved,
but RDS seems to have a bit more world experience to maneuver the deep state.
What part of this do you not comprehend?
To emphasize… Governor Ron DeSantis is a good governor, a good manager, well liked and should be well supported by the Florida voting base. There are several large issues for Florida that voters are counting on Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature to tackle quickly in 2023.
I would rate him as “adequate”….RDS can only be given a “good” rating when compared against the failing GOPe Governors around the nation……he could have done SO much more and your article touches on a few of the pressing issue left undone
Like supporting election integrity?
Agree, we have lots of issues to deal with he needs to finish his job when re-elected.
Dex doesn’t care to understand. he’s obviously a GOPe interloper, solely here to stir up controversy, IMHO.
Or Dex just got “released” from Twitter and this is the only “Job” the could find on short notice.
Trump knows what needs to be done. DeSantis merely following his lead.
DeSantis has a Republican Legislature to back his every whim in Florida. He probably does have connections in Washington, like the Bush crowd, the anti MAGA crowd. He runs like MAGA was his idea, but he is a johnny come lately to the party and will abandon America first for Ron first.
DeSantis has a lukewarm Republican legislature; many of whom are jockeying to succeed him for the Governor’s seat. They are the same power hungry pillocks who were Never-Trumpers and, just like the “establishment” R’s, were enthusiastic supporters of Adam Putnam, NOT DeSantis. It’s disheartening to watch all this play out – primarily because I was on board the Trump train before it was popular and also did everything within my power to get out the vote for RDS vs. AP, as did VSGPOTUSDJT. If things go the way it appears they might, RDS is going to receive a rather large helping of humble pie, and he can kiss any future political aspirations goodbye.
Putnam was bought and paid for by Big Ag, who can never get enough of cheap illega labor.
As a sidebar it has always been annoying me to watch DeSantis mimic Trump’s body language.
A RINO Republican legislature, to be sure.
How does one ‘maneuver the deep state’. 🤔
Glad you noticed that one …
Buy standing on the RINO lily pads!
People have criticized great leaders for having considerable egos throughout history. Where would we be without blabby critics? Maybe it takes a leader like Patton, or MacArthur, or DJT, with their prima donna egos, to rise up to the challenges of their time. Maybe a kinder, gentler leader would not have survived. Think you could take on the Deep State? Not likely. You would need very deep pockets and an alpha male mentality — and the ego that goes with it. We need tough, strong men, not lacking in self-assurance, to lead us out of this pit!
To claim that DJT’s ego kept him from being more successful is absurd and without merit.
RDS has not been tested by fire. Not yet! We’ll see. I like him – very much!
That you believe PDJT didn’t accomplish more in his first terms because of “his ego” (a popular anti-Trump anti-MAGA RINO false accusation) says much about your political astuteness .
Your statement indicates that either (1) you are completely oblivious to the massive obstruction from all of DC /Deep State and the near-complete absence of GOP cooperation or support from Congress that was thrown at PDJT every day of his term, or (2) you agree with the GOPe Swamp.
And willfully ignoring all he did accomplish.
History making accomplishments.
“History making accomplishments.”
Yes!
More world experience?
Like what?
JAG and Ivy League educated….he has all the DS requirements
Running off to Davos, prolly.
DeSantis is the deepstate – he voted for TPP and is in bed with them for hundreds of millions of dollars. He won’t be maneuvering anything, he’ll do as he’s told like ever other president over the last several decades.
Last sentence is a real whopper …. You’re not serious ?
RDS has zero experience with the deep state, unless you count him voting for the TPP when he was in CONgress.
RDS is outmanned and outgunned and has no defenses against the deep state.
Your comment proves “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink” applies to humans too.
The point is…DeS IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR…
Exactly.
If he thinks he can do a better job, why does he not simply come out and say it?
What is he waiting for?
This isn’t a game. We are talking about the lives of the people. Who wins, matters in a very elemental way. Anyone who has watched Biden these last 2 years should know that by now.
Those who consider it a game are authoritarians at heart and should be nowhere near the levers of power. It’s disgusting.
I hope he does enter his hat in the arena for 2024. That way he will be exposed for the establishment in waiting, rino in elephant’s clothing that he surely is becoming and will be if he gets the 2028 bid. Anyone beholden to donor money and loyalty is NOT maga. They can’t be. You can’t do the will of the people if someone else is pulling the strings. Ronnie can be the Governor of Florida and do good things there, but nationally there’s no room at the table for anymore Mittens, turtles, Lindseys, or rinos!
That is why President Trump was unique, he was not beholden to anyone. Do you see anyone on the horizon who would not need the money from big donors or the RNC? That’s the problem.
DJT will run in 2024. It gives maga time and Trump time to find his successor. Maybe it has to be Don JR. Someone else who can’t be bought.
Best hope he does not throw his hat in the ring for the 2024 General election. He won’t. But were he to0, that would fracture the party and peel off 5-10% (conjecture on my part) of the vote.
RDS is not going all in on PDJT at this point. Rather obvious.
To me, he’s coppering his bet in case an indictment does issue.
Him fracturing off ~10% of the vote in the primaries wouldn’t affect Trump’s win of the nomination. It’s not even close. Trump polls way ahead of anyone else, so Ronnie should enter the 2024 bid so he can see he’s insignificant. The establishment club somehow thinks voters aren’t on to them. They are out of touch that MAGA is ascending and isn’t going back to the old Republican Party. It would behoove the Rinos to take note and get onboard. That includes the top gov!
Make a great running mate.
Stay in FL until summoned.
He’s beginning to look like a Pense…
It will snow in Miami before DeSantis is called up. President Trump does not need another Pence. Kari Lake would be a better choice.
Sure Kari Lake as Trump’s Press Secretary. She has zero experience outside of broadcast journalism. So it’s ok for her to leave the Governor post assuming she wins – after a scant two years of experience? Apparently talkers no longer need to walk the walk?
At least, unlike Kamala, Kari can speak a coherent thought. That said I want her to do all that needs to be done here in Arizona – Ducey has been a terrible GOP governor.
Like she would step down from governor to be a press secretary – get real.
The ‘requirements’ for a VP to a President serving a second nonconsecutive term has to be so far removed from the traditional requirements. 🧐
49% “Loyal Wing Person” – 51% “Junk Yard Dog”
Don’t push your luck.
I had Ron DeSantis pegged the second i seen how media (fox news) was pimping him to the masses (post turtle)
it was a glaring red warning flag that not many even in the MAGA movement were willing to see.
as we say – once you see the strings it’s hard to unsee them (for some of us anyways)
Rule #1 : Never trust the political media whores or the politicians they promote and propagandize you into liking.
IMHO Ron DeSantis should never get to the white house, we’ve had enough bought and paid for puppets and we all feel where that has gotten us already.
(stop doing the same thing over and over expecting something new.. it’s insanity)
I would like to see a Trump / Nunes ticket in 2024. 2028 is a long way off. Trump can delegate to him the kind of tasks that Harris has completely fumbled to allow us to gauge his presidential bona fides. If Nunes does well as VP, he can move up then. If not, the race is on as to a successor. 2024 is too soon to consider DeSantis, Lake or any of the others being mentioned. Let’s see how they perform on the state level for awhile. They’ll either win their spurs or be outed as GOPe.
I would trust Nunes, that is a good choice.
Interesting idea.
That would actually be an excellent ticket.
Trump told him, “Big mistake”. Ron, you get one mulligan with Trump, don’t waste it.
Why doesn’t DeSantis swagger on in there and demand a front row seat?
Why is it that so many purportedly smart people like those supporting a DeSantis run in 2024, seem incapable of looking beyond two years? Didn’t Jeb’s miserable showing teach them anything?
Please clap.
Florida needs Governor Desantis for four more years and only then will he have a chance in 2028.
DeSantis is my Governor and he’s been great but I’ve had the feeling the last few months that he’s caught the messiah complex. I’m very disappointed that he’s going over to the dark side(Uni Party).
Trump 2024 or I’m out!
His “And then God made Ron DeSantis” ad totally creeps me out.
Trump has a hell of a lot more skin in the game. Running one state versus running against the entire admin state and the global cabal is a whole other league. Trump runs the varsity team and Ronnie can play on the J.V. team for now.
I like DeSantis. He’s working to make Florida greater. He needs to wait until ’28. Let Trump take ’24 and hand it to him in ’28.
Ignore the GOPe….or take their $$ then flip them the bird.
DeSantis needs to stay in Florida. There are a lot of issues he can solve continuing as the Governor.
Have to say, I question his judgement listening to the Big Club.
I would be interested in seeing what he’s accomplished by the time President Trump is finished with his next term in 2028.
Kinda of a wait and see stratagy.
I gather Sundance is allergic to Uni-Party Mitch Money and Influence, as am I. I’m not even a Repub any more due to McConnellism. That’s the beef with DeSantis, even though the policies have been good.
We need Warriors, REAL Warriors, not a Brand New Country Star with the Kochs on speed dial.
And by putting himself out there, he pressures the Blob to try to take Real President out of the contest with Fake Law. Not that they need much encouragement. But still, it’s more likely if they think they have another pony to ride.
I call that cabal the 3M GOPe now (McConnell, McCarthy, and McDaniel)
You do realize he is taking their money>>>> millions in fact,
Could you identify the people affiliated with “Friends of Ron DeSantis” Superpac?
From Sundance’s link ~
https://www.transparencyusa.org/fl/pac/friends-of-ron-desantis-70275-pac
Florida Blue seems to be at the top of the list…
https://www.transparencyusa.org/fl/donor/florida-blue
I’m not interested in the Big Club because I’m not in it!
Let’s remember that President Trump is stumping for Marco Rubio and as I understand it Sundance considered Marco Rubio to be part of the GOPE and put into the SSenate intelligence committee as the GOPe representative. The GOPE representative prior was Burr who failed to support President Trump and was a cover for the Democratic coup against Trump.
So my question to Sundance is why is President Trump supporting those who helped to create his whole problem in the first place. DeSantis didn’t join the coup against Trump but Rubio did. And I expect Rubio to continue to act the same.
because Li’ Marco won the GOP Primary earlier in the year and unlike Liz he votes WITH the party most of the time…..a majority of the GOPe is better than ALL the Dimm/commies……with the Dimm/commies we KNOW they are anti-America and out for her downfall……at least with some GOPe there are still some questions unanswered
“because Li’ Marco won the GOP Primary earlier in the year and unlike Liz he votes WITH the party most of the time”
The same applies to RDS. The question was originally for Sundance who I believe saw Marco Rubio as part of the Anti Maga establishment so why not fault president Trump for supporting Rubio. Ron DeSantis has not committed any acts of omission or commission like some of the politicians that President Trump appointed and supported. So I wonder why so hard on DeSantis, seems like a double standard to me.
The main traitorous acts of omission and commission that the traitorous GOPe committed was their failure to Support trump against the Democrat coup and their many acts of collusion with that coup .
PDJT is NOT supporting Lil’ Marco for POTUS and RDS does NOT get that endorsement either….what is your point?…..BIG difference between an endorsement or support for one position and the POTUS endorsement….is that not evident to you?……..RDS has failed to reciprocate the support for PDJT that he has received….RDS is after all PDJT’s GOVERNOR…..reports are he had forehand knowledge of the MAL raid and yet FAILED to protect one of HIS citizens against constitutional violations by the F-B-I and then remained MUM on the matter a full 6 days after……..his actions since have shown a willingness to raise his national flag more than govern FL (except for the Ian recovery efforts)…….Crist actually had a good question in the last debate (I am not a FL resident)…..”Are you more concerned with FL or DC?”
SENATOR Marco Rubio is better than SENATOR Democrat. Not that hard to understand.
Cause he wants him to win.
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Listen to Megyn Kelly:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/video/megyn-kelly-says-she-expects-183118175.html
Governor DeSantis is running a campaign on his own behalf, I prefer him to be strong and operating on his own, just as I do with Trump. He has his own schedule and his own plans and I respect him for that. I want to a lot of individual folks who are not just following a charismatic leader but who can think on their own to support an agenda in common with other individuals. President Trump has supported a number of GPOE himself.
President Trump has supported GOPe incumbents for re-election ONLY where no pro-MAGA candidate stepped up to challenge the incumbent in the primary or was of legitimately questionable electability.
Charismatic leader? Is THAT why you think Pres. Trump has a large following??? Were you paying any attention in 2017-2019?
President Trump engineered this nation into a stronger economic position along with a stronger internationally secure position than any president in my 70+ year lifetime. He was a shoo-in for a 2020 landslide and THAT is why the Corporate Globalist / Deep State-controlled GOPe & DemocRATS planned the Covid hoax to set the stage for massive ballot fraud in Nov 2020.
And then he still won so they had to bring in the suitcases of ballots in the middle of the night and steal it the old fashioned way.
I agree with you. Also surprised that he is letting his ego get in front of his ambitions. I find that particularly hard to swallow. Singularly unappealing. We need so much more.
Hey, no one is mentioning Ted Cruz in all these musings and political dreaming. Is he worthy of VP mention for ‘24, or as (either) VP with RDS in 28, or as Pres. with Lake as VP in 28🇺🇸
CANADIAN Cruz is Ineligible for the Job he pretends to hold now let alone VP or POTUS
I see CTH is being visited today by an anti-Trump, anti-MAGA tag team .
(Happens every time Sundance reveals more truth about DeSantis’ fealty to the GOPe / Deep State / Globalist Multinational cabal.)
Todays’ code phrase is “his ego”…..
You guys are so obvious..
Noticed that too. Wondering if Ron’s PAC or McConnell’s stooges have sent some staffers over to test different strategies. New names, same game.
same truthful, factual responses they are unable to effectively counter
Breaking News…
DeSantis uncomfortable with Trumps ego.
In 3,2,1…
I’ve met darn few native New Yorkers – especially from any of the NYC boroughs – who didn’t have a relatively large ego. But they also had big personalities to match. Several had a rather acerbic tongue and wit….yet I got along just grand with all of them.
LOL….WHO runs for POTUS without an outsized ego?…..I have never seen it…..you have to have some brass cajones to say you are the very best person on the planet to be POTUS
Thanks Sundance for the heads up
DeSantis not smart enough to realize he’s being used. My bet – Jeb! in the wings!
If someone shows you who they are, believe them. DeSantis is GOPe, not MAGA. Not ever supporting him for national office.
Ronnie is akin to that Vietnamese Buddhist monk, who self immolated (1962) with gasoline, to bring down the only leader, Diem, that could have made South Vietnam a viable nation.
Sorry Ronnie, you’ll douse yourself with gasoline and strike a match that only destroys yourself, not MAGA, not Trump!!!!
That’s why my response to his Top Goof nationwide TV ad was: Immolation Accomplished.
Why start this negativity three days before Election Day? Are you serious SD? Trying to help get Crist elected?
In case people need reminded, it was Ron DeSantis who has provided the leadership and funding that is helping Bonita Springs, Ft Myers, Cape Coral, Sanibel and Captiva recover faster than what was expected or predicted.
I know. I live in SWFL and I proudly stand with DeSantis, irrespective of Sundance’s biased opinions of him.
There are plenty of voices, many of whom (are not “the new management club”) who do not want Trump to run. In fact, they predict if Trump does secure the nomination, he will lose. Why?
From Powerlineblog:
“The Democrats are lying in wait, hoping Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Trump. They are even planning a special counsel to investigate Trump full-time if he runs in 2024”
“The Justice Department is reportedly discussing the possibility of appointing a special counsel to oversee active federal investigations related to former President Donald Trump if he decides to launch a 2024 campaign.”
“Trump is being probed by the DOJ over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election and for his alleged mishandling of top secret documents stored at his Mar-a-Lago estate. …”
“DOJ officials are debating whether appointing a special counsel would protect the Justice Department from claims that the Biden administration is going after his top political rival, sources told CNN.”
“Just what we need! A presidential candidate who begins the race dogged by a special counsel and in serious danger of being indicted by political opponents.”
Read the entire article:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/11/oh-nooo-hes-back.php
So you know that the power line guys are total never-trumpets from the beginning.
Why would you listen to them?
You’re on a roll tonight mom….
Like we should fear a special counsel do-over for PDJT.
Special counsel = nothing burger at this point for him and his supporters.
Already been through it and came out more popular and stronger afterwards.
MAGA will follow PDJT. If the weaponized DOJ indicts him, we’ll flood his coffers with donations and his campaign with volunteers. The flood of donations after the Mar-a-Lago raid is just the beginning. The more the left uses lawfare to attack him the more proof for us that PDJT is the only one who the left fears, the only one they cannot control, the only one not bought and paid for. He has my vote.
Indictments and even jail is not a deterrent for PDJT’s base — au contraire, it would an in-kind campaign contribution to PDJT spiking his support.
the timing here is RDS and his Globalist Rolodex of donors…they are the ones splitting off to do a SEPARATE event from the one in Miami-Dade………did you see the cooperative spirit in AZ 2 days ago with the MAGA candidates for GOVERNOR-SoS-AG and US SENATOR ALL campaigning as a TEAM?
Those reasons are all the same reasons for supporting Trump to get rid of the Democrats and Republicans who are trying to bring Trump down. I don’t see Ron DeSantis as having committed any act against Trump and as it stands right now I would vote for both. Trump has done many things which I don’t support But it has not changed my vote yet. I am concerned that President Trump was not strong enough in his first term in his dealings with the deep state. He never called their names or outed their crimes. I was disturbed by his giving the authority to declassify to William Barr. I believe President Trump was not as strong as I expected in exercising his executive authority.
The appointment of a special counsel is not done to arrive at the truth of the matter, it is done to control evidence and narratives and keep facts hidden behind a wall for none to see except through leaks.
Sundance doesn’t play dumb for the benefit of those making boneheaded GOPe moves.
His warning is a kindness to RDS.
That the Derp State continues to rage at PDJT whilst propping up a weak substitute will never sway MAGA away from its champion and citing its empty arguments will sway few Treepers.
Next you’re gonna tell us we are in danger of losing the coveted Ann Coulter endorsement.
I read that John Hinderacker piece this morning.
The logic is flawed.
If Desantis is a basket of shiny apples, then Trump is an orchid and not all the apples are shiny.
Comparing the best apples in the basket to the worst in the orchid is not the way to judge the two.
Quality is important, but it is quality times volume that needs to be calculated to compare value of each.
I believe you intended to write Orchard, whereas spellcheck thought Orchid would be an amusing substitute.
No, that’s on me. What I type and what I mean are not always the same. Thankfully you knew what I meant.
We speak Typeau here. 😉
Hear! Hear!
Power is the most intoxicating thing in the world. It is better than the best drug, and even more desirable than sex. It is the ultimate human aphrodisiac–and it appears DeSantis is in its thrall.
I wish Governor DeSantis understood that he is being used-yes, used-to divide the America-First nation and allow the globalists to complete their goal of a corporatist-fascist tyranny.
If DeSantis runs it will splinter the Republican Party (not necessarily a bad thing), but also splinter the conservative, America-First vote, thus weakening We the People’s ability to wrest control of the Executive Branch from the Deep State.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner here 💥
GOPe is as hostile to the idea of MAGA as any leftist. They couldn’t show their uniparty ankle any more clearly in their snubbing any and all things about Make America Great Again. That ain’t no wagon to hitch to, that’s a whig party destined for obscurity. Hoping with fingers and toes crossed that the red wave washes up some truly America First minded congress-people to curb stop the little e’s..
“That said, if in midyear 2023 the professional financial and political class leverage their donations to Ron DeSantis to abandon his post in order to help them nationally combat the MAGA agenda…. DeSantis will not only lose the contest for the republican presidential nomination, but he will also destroy his political career in an instant.”
Those are strong words, Sundance. I appreciate you highlighting DeSantis’s ties to the RINO club. But I am not yet sure personally which one of them will make a better candidate in the 2024 election.
My concern with DJT starts with the fact that he allowed himself to be gaslighted about the vaxx and the subsequent shutdown of the economy in so many US states. I believe the left will hang those two decisions around DJT’s neck, with damaging impact.
DeSantis handled covid and the shut down question much better than DJT did on a national level. But I think it might be too soon for DeSantis to run for national office since, as SD has pointed out, there is still a lot of hard work to be done in Florida for the foreseeable future.
So my mind is not yet made up, unlike most here. A lot will also hinge on whether or not the Dems are successful in stealing the midterms like they stole DJT’s 2020 election. If the Dems hold the House and the Senate via another steal, then all talk of future elections is worthless. The Repubs might as well run Tulsi Gabbard at that point since who cares, it will be stolen anyway.
Keep up the good work, Sundance. You are making a lot of us think very hard about our choices in 2024.
The Dims can’t hang Covid anything around Trump’s neck since the Dims (and GOPe) did far worse.
There were no national shutdowns. It was a state-level operation which is why each state could decide for itself when to reopen.
How quickly some choose to forget.
While we may fault Trump for not firing Fauci and Birx, it was a very difficult political climate thanks to the Dims and RINOs, and the next in command was no better.
Next time, let’s give Trump more MAGA reps and senators. One man can’t do everything by himself, he does need support.
Remember that pesky thing at the same time as Covid appeared — it was called impeachment. Trump was being pulled in multiple directions – DeSantis never has been through the wringer like Trump.
Two governors led the way on Covid #1 was Noem – who never shut down her state even for a day followed by #2 Kemp who bucked all the complainers that he wasn’t following Fauci — De Santis saw where the wind was blowing and finally stopped the shut downs and mask rules in Florida, He did not lead, he followed. Noem led.
How right you are Sundance! (as usual) 😉
I believe RDS is a good man and he has been very good for FL, but imho, he needs to stay there — for now. When the GOPe dip their corrupt fingers into anything, it’s for Uniparty. Time and again they have proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Only fools would not be suspicious.
PDJT has been denied and cheated. There needs to be a reckoning of justice.
I think it’s funny how everybody’s jumping on DeSantis because He has his own agenda, which so far to me has been the Maga gender. If I use the same standards on Trump that folks are using here on DeSantis I wouldn’t have voted for Trump. President Trump Has been hobnobbing with the GOPe from the very beginning. President Trump has supported many of the folks in the GOPe like Haley, etc. President Trump didn’t call out the traitors on the Senate intelligence committee and Marco Rubio. Instead of supporting the January 6 prisoners and the other patriots he distanced himself from them. They all came out in support of President Trump and his agenda. President Trump, like me, sees them rotting in the jails but has not stood up for them. In spite of this and all the many mistakes that President Trump made in his appointments, I voted and continue to vote for Trump. Hanging out with the GOPe to further your goals is exactly what President Trump did, so why should I turn on DeSantis now when Trump has done the same thing.?
So clever of you.
I find it funny you see easily dispense with someone who has taken the abuse and done the heavy lifting to date……BOY o BOY I would not want you in my foxhole…..first sign of trouble and you would bolt to the rear like a rabbit
“I find it funny you see easily dispense with someone who has taken the abuse and done the heavy lifting to date…”
I wrote this:
“In spite of this and all the many mistakes that President Trump made in his appointments, I voted and continue to vote for Trump. “
….and you also wrote that given the option you would vote for the more refined RDS because PDJT has made some errors……(hint) there has been NO POTUS entering the job with previous experience……some have some exposure at different areas the job requires but NOT at that level………as an outsider PDJT had NO one to call from as a cadre he could rely on to reform DC…….I agree he is overly trusting at times but I count that as a virtue where you seem to see it as a vice……..do not know your exposure to this site but you may want to review some of SD’s articles about the “4th Branch” and how the F-B-I has been roped in because their vetting process can be used to LIMIT candidates for the nominated positions….in the same manner the 3Ms GOPe wing led by the Turtle informed PDJT no one he did not approve of would be confirmed so no need to nominate them………when you list of available workers is limited to the corrupted workers of DC OFC you will find flaws……are you that blind that you place the ENTIRETY of blame for that on PDJT……..what a small man
Bookmark this, fellow patriots.
Meanwhile, enjoy the rally tonight – that would be President Trump’s rally.