Before getting to the latest revelation/evidence which affirms CTH research for multiple years, let me just remind everyone of the commonsense aspect. If the Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) was actually doing what I have long said it appeared they were doing, then…
…The databases of the identified social media platforms appear to be integrated with the U.S. intelligence system. This relationship makes the U.S government a stakeholder in the financial sustainability of the enterprise(s). Thus, a collaborative effort to financially subsidize the underlying data processing fits the mutual benefit scenario. ~ Sundance
DHS gets domestic surveillance tools under the guise of ‘national security’. Meanwhile, massive social media companies get financial offsets for the extreme data processing costs associated with millions of simultaneous users. That’s the mutual benefit behind “Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop.” Previously people called it a ‘conspiracy theory‘, I didn’t care, still don’t, it just makes the most sense; Occam’s Razor applies.
Today, all that was almost certain is now brought forth with buckets of evidence showing how social media enterprises have direct portals to DHS to transmit information and receive instructions. It’s a public-private partnership, just like it always appeared. To quote succinctly, we been knew.
Now before getting all giddy and excited about the documents leaked to The Intercept, proving what CTH has outlined for years, allow me to temper the thirst for immediate I toldyaso’s, Slow your roll…
Remind yourself when everyone was giddy about getting to see for the first time in history a released ‘top secret’ Title-1 FISA application (Carter Page) and how everyone rushed to review and discuss it without asking the first question(s) first. We know these are bad actors, so why was it released and who released it?
The same applies here. We know the change of ownership within Twitter might pose a threat to discovery of government conduct that has taken place inside the enterprise under prior management. So why is the DHS connection to Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube etc. and social media being revealed now? What are their motives, and who is leaking it? We do not yet know.
As to what is being revealed in the leak, it’s a remarkable affirmation of how the Fourth Branch of Government operates. Specifically, what CTH has outlined for years about the use of the Dept of Homeland Security, as a political surveillance weapon under the justification of national security.
[The Intercept] – […] Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.
In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.”
“We do not coordinate with other entities when making content moderation decisions, and we independently evaluate content in line with the Twitter Rules,” a spokesperson for Twitter wrote in a statement to The Intercept.
There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the “content request system” at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
[…] The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans’ daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general’s lawsuit disclosed. And a 2021 report by the Election Integrity Partnership at Stanford University found that of nearly 4,800 flagged items, technology platforms took action on 35 percent — either removing, labeling, or soft-blocking speech, meaning the users were only able to view content after bypassing a warning screen. The research was done “in consultation with CISA,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
Prior to the 2020 election, tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives. According to NBC News, the meetings were part of an initiative, still ongoing, between the private sector and government to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election. (keep reading)
Essentially, the nub of the issue related to the U.S. government telling social media what to remove from the public discussion and what types of information they want monitored. The social media companies and DHS have a portal between them [EXAMPLE HERE] where these discussions take place.
While there are no specific details as to the human targets of the censoring information, you would have to be obtuse in the extreme not to accept that Donald Trump’s removal from Twitter was one of the larger targeting operations as an outcome of alignment between the activist officials on Twitter and the political officials within the U.S. government [ie. the Fourth Branch].
[…] Intelligence agencies backed new startups designed to monitor the vast flow of information across social networks to better understand emerging narratives and risks.
There it is.
Does anyone need to be beaten with a hammer to accept that “intelligence agencies” funded new subsidiary private sector monitoring networks?
“Backed new startups“? If the U.S. government is going to pay new private sector startup companies to help the intelligence community with social media surveillance, why wouldn’t the same agencies pay to retain the originating system and data processing that establishes the baseline of the data being reviewed? Please apply common sense.
[…] “The Department has not been fully reauthorized since its inception over fifteen years ago,” the Senate Homeland Security Committee warned in 2018. “As the threat landscape continues to evolve, the Department adjusted its organization and activities to address emerging threats and protect the U.S. homeland. This evolution of the Department’s duties and organization, including the structure and operations of the DHS Headquarters, has never been codified in statute.”
The subsequent military defeat of ISIS forces in Syria and Iraq, along with the withdrawal from Afghanistan, left the homeland security apparatus without a target. Meanwhile, a new threat entered the discourse. The allegation that Russian agents had seeded disinformation on Facebook that tipped the 2016 election toward Donald Trump resulted in the FBI forming the Foreign Influence Task Force, a team devoted to preventing foreign meddling in American elections.
According to DHS meeting minutes from March, the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force this year includes 80 individuals focused on curbing “subversive data utilized to drive a wedge between the populace and the government.”
“The Department will spearhead initiatives to raise awareness of disinformation campaigns targeting communities in the United States, providing citizens the tools necessary to identify and halt the spread of information operations intended to promote radicalization to violent extremism or mobilization to violence,” DHS Acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan said in a September 2019 strategic framework. (read more)
I cannot emphasize the importance of the connections enough.
Surveillance of domestic communication, to include surveillance of all social media platforms, is now the primary mission of DHS.
The information is gathered by social media, funneled by direct portals into the DHS network then distributed to DOJ-NSD and FBI officials as well as the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. This communication surveillance network is what DHS, created as an outcome of the Patriot Act, is all about.
The four pillars of the Fourth Branch of Government are: DHS, ODNI, DOJ-NSD and the revised/political FBI. All four pillars were created as an outcome of the Patriot Act. These institutions – as specifically named – represent the domestic surveillance state. The subsidiary institutions like TSA etc, exist under their authority. There is no oversight or counterbalance to this system. The Fourth Branch exists using the shield of “national intelligence” to hide their activity. Domestic surveillance is done by the intelligence apparatus under one big connected system, operated by the ODNI and DHS.
New York Post – Facebook has been spying on the private messages and data of American users and reporting them to the FBI if they express anti-government or anti-authority sentiments — or question the 2020 election — according to sources within the Department of Justice.
Under the FBI collaboration operation, somebody at Facebook red-flagged these supposedly subversive private messages over the past 19 months and transmitted them in redacted form to the domestic terrorism operational unit at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, without a subpoena.
“It was done outside the legal process and without probable cause,” alleged one of the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
“Facebook provides the FBI with private conversations which are protected by the First Amendment without any subpoena.”
These private messages then have been farmed out as “leads” to FBI field offices around the country, which subsequently requested subpoenas from the partner US Attorney’s Office in their district to officially obtain the private conversations that Facebook already had shown them. (read more)
None of this should be surprising to anyone who has been reading our research about the domestic intelligence apparatus and their connections to the Big Tech platforms. The largest social media networks are fully compromised by this relationship, and that is exactly why the legislative branch has not done anything to impede (ie. break up) the tech monopoly system that was created.
♦ EXAMPLE: Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop (Twitter), essentially a global and public commenting system, could not feasibly exist without the support of the U.S. government providing extreme scale data-processing. Also, specifically because the platform is in a symbiotic relationship with the intelligence apparatus, the IC itself has contracted people working within the platform.
The whole system was admitted in a 2021 Reuters article outlining the networks and their surveillance relationship with DHS.
We have been trying to hammer this issue for a long time, because at the end of this continuum people will eventually be given digital identities. It’s just the natural outcome if you follow the arc of how this is operating. Once a digital ID is established, all of your activity is then connected to it and a digital currency system emerges.
♦ 2021, Public-Private Partnership – The modern Fourth Branch of Government is only possible because of a Public-Private partnership with the intelligence apparatus. You do not have to take my word for it, the partnership is so brazen they have made public admissions.
The biggest names in Big Tech announced in June their partnership with the Five Eyes intelligence network, ultimately controlled by the NSA, to: (1) monitor all activity in their platforms; (2) identify extremist content; (3) look for expressions of Domestic Violent Extremism (DVE); and then, (4) put the content details into a database where the Five Eyes intelligence agencies (U.K., U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand) can access it.
Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft are all partnering with the intelligence apparatus. It might be difficult to fathom how openly they admit this, but they do. Look at this sentence in the press release (emphasis mine):
[…] “The Group will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.”
Think about that sentence structure very carefully. They are “adding to” the preexisting list…. admitting the group (aka Big Tech) already have access to the the intelligence-sharing database… and also admitting there is a preexisting list created by the Five Eyes consortium.
Obviously, who and what is defined as “extremist content” will be determined by the Big Tech insiders themselves. This provides a gateway, another plausible deniability aspect, to cover the Intelligence Branch from any oversight.
When the Intelligence Branch within government wants to conduct surveillance and monitor American citizens, they run up against problems due to the Constitution of the United States. They get around those legal limitations by sub-contracting the intelligence gathering, the actual data-mining, and allowing outside parties (contractors) to have access to the central database.
The government cannot conduct electronic searches (4th amendment issue) without a warrant; however, private individuals can search and report back as long as they have access. What is being admitted is exactly that preexisting partnership. The difference is that Big Tech will flag the content from within their platforms, and now a secondary database filled with the extracted information will be provided openly for the Intelligence Branch to exploit.
The volume of metadata captured by the NSA has always been a problem because of the filters needed to make the targeting useful. There is a lot of noise in collecting all data that makes the parts you really want to identify more difficult to capture. This new admission puts a new massive filtration system in the metadata that circumvents any privacy protections for individuals.
Previously, the Intelligence Branch worked around the constitutional and unlawful search issue by using resources that were not in the United States. A domestic U.S. agency, working on behalf of the U.S. government, cannot listen on your calls without a warrant. However, if the U.S. agency sub-contracts to say a Canadian group, or foreign ally, the privacy invasion is no longer legally restricted by U.S. law.
What was announced in June 2021 is an alarming admission of a prior relationship along with open intent to define their domestic political opposition as extremists.
July 26, 2021, (Reuters) – A counterterrorism organization formed by some of the biggest U.S. tech companies including Facebook (FB.O) and Microsoft (MSFT.O) is significantly expanding the types of extremist content shared between firms in a key database, aiming to crack down on material from white supremacists and far-right militias, the group told Reuters.
Until now, the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism’s (GIFCT) database has focused on videos and images from terrorist groups on a United Nations list and so has largely consisted of content from Islamist extremist organizations such as Islamic State, al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Over the next few months, the group will add attacker manifestos – often shared by sympathizers after white supremacist violence – and other publications and links flagged by U.N. initiative Tech Against Terrorism. It will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes, adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.
The firms, which include Twitter (TWTR.N) and Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) YouTube, share “hashes,” unique numerical representations of original pieces of content that have been removed from their services. Other platforms use these to identify the same content on their own sites in order to review or remove it. (read more)
The influence of the Intelligence Branch now reaches into our lives, our personal lives. In the decades before 9/11/01 the intelligence apparatus intersected with government, influenced government, and undoubtedly controlled many institutions with it. The legislative oversight function was weak and growing weaker, but it still existed and could have been used to keep the IC in check. However, after the events of 9/11/01, the short-sighted legislative reactions opened the door to allow the surveillance state to weaponize.
After the Patriot Act was triggered, not coincidentally only six weeks after 9/11, a slow and dangerous fuse was lit that ends with the intelligence apparatus being granted a massive amount of power. The problem with assembled power is always what happens when a Machiavellian network takes control over that power and begins the process to weaponize the tools for their own malicious benefit. That is exactly what the installation of Barack Obama was all about.
The Obama network took pre-assembled intelligence weapons we should never have allowed to be created and turned those weapons into tools for his radical and fundamental change. The target was the essential fabric of our nation. Ultimately, this corrupt political process gave power to create the Fourth Branch of Government, the Intelligence Branch. From that perspective Obama’s “fundamental change” was successful.
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FBI agent Laura Dehmlow was in communications w Facebook that led to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in 2020 over the false allegation that it was “disinfo.” This year, she met w/ Twitter/DHS to stress “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.” pic.twitter.com/17LqhEyMN0
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
The emails and documents show close collaboration b/w DHS & private sector. Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (fired by @elonmusk last week) met monthly with DHS to discuss censorship plans. Microsoft exec texted DHS: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't" pic.twitter.com/Z19yLM3miB
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
Earlier this year, DHS launched a widely panned "Disinfo Governance Board" which it later shuttered following criticism. But the same agenda lives on w/ DHS sub-agency "CISA" which argues disinfo is a threat to American "critical infrastructure" #dhsleaks https://t.co/OPl6m5GVGX
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
Honest question, no snark.
How is @elonmusk going to have *that* conversation with the U.S. govt, and remain transparent and/or uncouple Twit from them, while all of Musk's brilliant exploits are enmeshed with the same govt?
The govt has power, $$ and leverage in that convo. pic.twitter.com/VNN1RrFSEh
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 31, 2022
Just like Barr, Musk stands athwart history and can be an American hero or succumb to the forces of evil.
Barr failed miserably.
sobering enough to confirm this immensely powerful police-state surveillance
sobering x 1,000 to recognize that it is in the hands of Leftists who are weaponizing it against us
Barr was NEVER going to succeed in a manner consistent with your fully justified expectations.
He could have easily by just following the law and his supposed ‘faith’ which he wore on his sleeve.
Or maybe by just following the constitution that he swore to do?
But he could have tried. He folded and became the face of treason.
because they are afraid to stand on their own. They have no merit anyway
He didn’t fold. Once a Bush fixer, always a Bush fixer.
He was always a rat. He may, at times, have played the game to look like a patriot, or he may have at times had his hand forced (key Mueller Report actions) but left to his own accord he was always going to protect the cheating ratfinks.
He didn’t fold. He performed his task perfectly, from the point of view of those who installed him. Remember when we all held our breath when Barr called it “spying?” Barr was installed to hide the government’s crimes. And he did it very well. Durham was installed by Barr to keep the cover-up going long after he was gone. Worked like a charm.
He did not fold. He did what his compromised self was told to do. He was and is still Bush’s fixer.
Ever think Barr was bought and paid for? Mitch made sure who was going where they were needed! Mitch is THE TRAITOR! As George Carlin said: “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it!”
Respectfully, Barr didn’t fail. He didn’t try to make a positive difference for the USA’s Justice system. He succeeded in his duty to being the Bondo as sundance has often indicated.
“Barr failed miserably.” that necessarily presumes billy felt the Force . . .
he succeeded in what he was trying to do
We allowed this to happen by not having channel choice with cable TV
That’s how this all this started… People buying cable and subsidizing the likes of CNN and MSNBC and all them Oprah channels…
Channels we will never watch but give them money –
Next was AOL and then them purchasing Time Warner….. It would have been sooner but AOL totally failed…
Google is what started the internet violations… they completely got away with screwing with searches….
Then came along Facebook and Twitter…. and all the others… which made it even easier for them with the help of Gates and verizon…
that’s how we lost it people….
They knew they were never going to give us a choice.
And now we have five with the purchase of Disney.
Excellent points.
It’s not a “public-private partnership.” Don’t be a fool who is not gladly suffered. It’s called fascism.
They are one in the same, as you allude. Problem is if these crooks in governmetn put “sole bid contract” or “fascist project financing” in a public budget, it tends to raise all the wrong questions.
My bet is we won’t hear a peep out of the lips of DeSantis, Rubio, McConnell, Graham, McCarthy, Cotton or Cruz on any of this.
In some ways it makes sense. Why talk about it unless and until you have a way of defeating it.
I look at it a different way–Why talk about it when you don’t want to defeat it because you are part of it and would have to admit responsibility.
Scary times indeed.
Extremely scary! We are watching the formation of the beast system before our very eyes. All of humanity becomes the property of the beast system, comply or die.
A free thinking inventor explorer is within the gated security clearance community for SpaceX, now daring challenge tyrannical deep state control over free speech on the internet. The deep state should be very scared.
Yes. And a scared DS is a very dangerous DS.
They never thought HRC would lose. They never thought a milder more infectious version of their gain of function virus would be released at a key point to begin to break the mass formation psychosis they orchestrated. They never thought that a person they do not reliably control would gain power over Twitter a/k/a operation Deep Dream. They never thought the guts of their propaganda manufacturing machine would be opened up and spilled for all the world to see.
The tide is mostly out and they’ve been caught swimming naked.
Not many options left.
They could drown?
Throw Out the ENTIRE Patriot Act. 9/11 Was an Inside Feral Deep State Job. Obama & Brennan using secret CiA (Dennis Montgomery) surveillance system on thousands of American politicians, corp executives, opinion leaders. FIB cover up, DoJ persecutions.
https://ellacruz.org/2021/03/29/cia-contractor-dennis-montgomery-obamas-operation-hammer-the-stolen-a-must-read-by-author-frank-de-verona/
PATRIOT Act is UNCONSTITUTIONAL….it takes away a citizen’s protected rights without due process through statute which is NOT legal……you lose your 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendment rights just off the top of my head just from a government bureaucrat’s decision…..its 1500 pages IIRC were submitted mere DAYS after 911……it had been composed and awaiting the moment to submit by lobbying groups to shackle the American public and further empower the federal government
This.
I knew it was trouble even before I could legally vote.
Trading essential liberty for a measure of security. Will gain neither, and lose both.
trading essential liberty concentrates unchallenged power that become overlords. win win. (one must think like a tyrannt to appreciate the patriot act). we the people..meh…little people who have no power…
challenge accepted.
G0d Bless America
it was passed in congress to legally document what had already been going on in prior years under POTUS executive orders. (and cia and presumably FBI counter intel operations) it is still shocking to see that congress continues to renew this constitutional raping monster with little to show in term of actual war against terrorism.
but I doubt there is a clear thinking person then or now, that assumed it was EVER WAS created to fight foreign terrorists.
9/11 happened for lots of reasons that had little to do with fighting terror. the patriot act was the goal.
that IS my opinion. A pearl harbor designed so that the nuclear bomb could be announced, created and unleashed.
some think this is crazy talk.
but in terms of warfare (and patriot act is definitely a direct war against the constitutional protections against central state overlords), there has never been a weapon designed and created that was not used. not one.
I’m stickin’ to my guns about Musk.
His purchase of Twitter is face paint. Even the firing of executives, etc. He is already too enmeshed. Millions of people follow his tweets. If people “believe in” Musk, he has tremendous power to “guide” the “conversation”. I reject the whole thing.
And this…“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson.
LOL. We should never “get comfortable with gov’t.” Ever. The government’s role, in this country, is to protect the Homeland, and they’re failing miserably at their primary job. Everything else they do is just chaff. They’re corrupt to the core.
Musk is a part of a new avenue for the culprits to use, remain secret, and continue to do what they’ve been doing, all aspects.
As Kellyanne would say, we have alternative billionaires.
there are definitely lots of reasons to doubt elon is a good guy.
but there it is..
will your opinion change even slightly as he lifts the life time ban placed on President Trump AND EVERYONE ELSE?
I don’t think there is a single billionaire who doesn’t have several skeletons in the closet. But I also don’t see other billionaire’s hanging it out there intentionally drawing what can only be described as risk !
he is an unusual critter for sure. unpredictable. driven to success and having achieved it in ways that quite frankly no other billionaire has even come close. space rockets that created commercial space …electric vehicles against all the odds of market forces.
Think of it this way: if the USG was behind all of that innovation, they would have already figured out a way to offshore it to china and sell out. Elon is not chinese. He is about as close as you can get to a president trump is terms of an american entrepreneur enigmatic icon. I don’t agree with many things he does, but I am not convinced the corruptors have their claws completely around his throat. yet.
that will probably come later when he actually starts to allow the kinds of conversations and debates to take place on twitter that were never allowed.
did you catch his early morning twit wrt to the pelosi breakin. the guy loves to troll and do his best to harass hillary clinton.
who doesn’t love that? even if what he says is nonsense (that he later deleted).
he’s unpredictable.
I don’t think that makes him a very valuable corrupt actor for the deep state.
when someone does crazy things..sometimes, they just want to see the reaction..and WHAT HEADS POP UP.
Elon is no fool. even if it appears he has a foolish spirit.
God Bless America
Elon’s Twitter Just Fact Checked Joe Biden’s Official Presidential Account
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/10/29/its-happening-elons-twitter-just-fact-checked-joe-bidens-official-presidential-account-n1641157
These public-private partnerships, especially around startup incubation, are not all that new. Think of the CIAs own vulture capital arm: In-Q-Tel.
These partnerships and technologies are doing exactly as their stakeholders intended: using the people’s money to protect the elites from the people.
DARPA
If true, and I tend to agree regarding the intentions, what we can do is deny them funding (economic warfare) and deny them our work (strike) and deny them cooperation (civil disobedience). That can all be accomplished without violence or death as offensive actions.
Dune, this is a nice dream. The violence will be coming from them, if your “strikes” appear to be working. Civil disobedience? They’ll shut that down, just like the Canadian truckers. Did our convoys achieve anything? I’m afraid it’s more like watering the tree.
LOST
This is the worst insurrection against the American people in history.
this just reminds me of the “journo-list” discovery so many years ago.
You think that was nipped in the bud? Heavens no.
Don’t forget… FBI had a desk at Perkins Coie.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/01/extending-the-political-surveillance-discussion-with-new-revelations-the-fbi-had-a-workspace-inside-perkins-coie-dc-law-offices/
Had?
Why does everyone believe that subcontracting out the illegal domestic surveillance makes it legal or circumvents the Constitution?
The 4th Amendment does not say that the citizens are protected ONLY from Government-initiated unreasonable searches and seizures without probable cause and warrants obtained via sworn oaths.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
It does not specify who can or cannot covertly spy on U.S. citizens without warrants, it says WE have a right that protects us against ALL unreasonable searches and seizures (PERIOD). Which means BY ANYONE. Unless they have probable cause and swear to that before a judge to obtain a warrant.
So under what Constitutional authority does Big Tech get to surveil our private comms without warrants and hand them to the government?
Those pesky *terms of use*…
If the TOS permit arbitrary censorship than they violate the 1st amendment – they’re unconstitutional. I know this argument has lost in some courts but courts are and have been corrupt for awhile. Laws are meaningless when courts are corrupt and will not consistently uphold the law.
The constitution applies to the government.
So a private company can confiscate our firearms? (2A)
A private company can prevent us from practicing our religion? (1A)
A private company has the right to restrict our public speech? (1A)
You might want to rethink your assumptions about the Constitution. The Bill of Rights stipulates the citizens’ rights, not the government’s rights.
It has not escaped notice that Twitter, Google and Facebook ARE, for all intents and purposes, the Government. Built with our taxpayer (black budget) money, run on our government built big data servers, staffed in large part by “ex” FBI agents and retired generals and such. Where does the government end and the “private enterprise ” begin? If you cannot tell, then it is ALL the government. And ALL subject to the constraints placed on a State Actor (legal term of art).
Add to that the platforms the apps run on – iOS and Android
I wondered something similar about Mike Lindell’s phone. It had lots of digital “papers and effects.” Why didn’t the warrant have to specify in detail which files were to be seized? When will the courts recognize this? Can the FBI come inot a large library in a home and seize every paper book or document? But if all those books and documents are digitally stored in your pocket, they can?
Obviously there is no constitutional authority to use the internet to spy on people, but the way the internet is constructed, it is so easy.
If it’s easy to steal from a store that doesn’t make it legal. Yes I know about the $900 threshold out west where the DA’s won’t prosecute shoplifting thefts under that amount. But they’re wacked out leftwingers.
And so . . . WHY do YOU want “government,” ANY “government” of human beings, again?
Anyone, can you honestly say?
There IS such a thing as “good government.” I have a good, fiscally conservative small government in my small town. I am sure there are plenty other examples of good government in towns and villages across the nation. But the federal government, large city and county governments, and many state governments have been cesspools from early on, simply because of the amount of wealth under governmental control and the endless supply of corrupt crooks who want to get their hands on that wealth via the power of government.
For a real eye opener take a look at the budgets student councils at universities play with. Consider a public U with 50,000+ students, each forced to pay a student fee (yeah sure, A student fee). Just say it’s $100/semester per student.
10 million dollars. In the hands of a few students who self-select for the positions, since most students don’t take the student council seriously.
(just checked the U of Minn website: $483.76 per semester per undergrad)
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Dear GB:
Is what you’re really describing governance, rather than a government that everyone in your town has to answer to? Does it levy taxes? Do you have the right to refuse to obey any regulation laid down that negatively affects you and yours, without incurring penalties? Can you opt out of “paying your fair share”? Is it accountable and subject to the larger county/state/federal governments? If it works just like a scaled-down federal/state government, so what? Do lighter hand cuffs make you freer?
Have you ever read the Book of Judges in the Old Testament? That period of time covers almost 500 years. No over-arching government of any kind; only various local councils of “judges” to arbitrate local disputes and issues. In all those nearly 500 years, only a handful of major crimes God chose to have recorded, and they were pretty heinous. But that’s it. They were resolved. On a strictly local level, and by God’s simple laws: adherence to the Ten Commandments.
Have you seriously read/contemplated those simple Ten Commandments? Noted that they ONLY apply to the reader? Nowhere appointing some people to watch other people, nowhere appointing “law enforcers,” spies, tattle-tales? ONLY clearly defining what God expects from those who profess Him, personally. Each of us is solely responsible for our own attitudes and behavior.
Jesus reiterated that in His Golden Rule.
There really is nothing more needed.
Yes, Leviticus and Numbers added to those ten simple commandments. As AFTER THE FACT, again not appointing any overseers or “officials” over any of the communities. In fact, even when there was rampant disobedience and criminal sin among the priests, ostensibly moving the people to beg for “a king over them like the other nations,” God objected. He warned about what they were actually asking for, and what would INEVITABLY happen under human government.
1 Samuel 8
Yet the people wouldn’t listen and still demanded a human king over them, a physical person and his entourage, powers, and army, just like the neighboring ungodly kingdoms/states. And God let them have it. And the rest is history, down to today in every corner of the world and of this country.
During the American War for Independence/Secession from England/Britain, there was a regiment of clergy called The Black Regiment. Their battle cry was “No king but King Jesus!”
God allowed the rebels to win that conflict. But, as is typical among men, as soon as victory was declared, that Black Regiment folded to the leaders who instantly erected a human government. “Freer”?
Because it’s human rulership, it INEVITABLY grows and devours those it rules.
There’s a difference between a community of self-governing members and an overarching set of humans having power over fellow members.
If the people who profess Christ would actually study and learn His Word and then determine to live by it alone — as the Black Regiment swore to but easily capitulated to human rulership — we would escape this Satan-assisted, human-created nightmare.
We need to separate ourselves OUT — as God commands us to in both the Old and New Testaments! — of the surrounding human rulerships and form communities, even counties and NEW STATES, committed to Him and His rule alone.
There only is freedom, liberty, individual, God-created inalienable rights, possible.
Christians need to come back to Him, with no reservations.
Lot’s wife is where we are and where we’re headed otherwise.
My town is an incorporated town that does levy a small property tax (0.33% of assessed value), on top of the county and state tax. The town has a Mayor, six-member Town Council, Secretary, Treasurer, Clerk, Town Manager, Public Works Dept. and Manager, Police Dept., and couple administrative staff. The Town’s lawyer is independent and on a retainer.
“Do lighter handcuffs make you free?” I do not see the current government in my town as handcuffs, but they do manage issues unique to my town that would not be managed as effectively by the county government which is 20 miles away or worse, by the state government which is 75 miles away. No handcuffs from your perspective (no government at any level) would be anarchy, of which I am also opposed.
Ancient Israel was a theocracy, of which I am opposed, as were our nation’s founders. As you mentioned, the leaders of ancient Israel and Judah became corrupt and even they abandoned the Lord’s laws and commandments. So neither form of government worked for Israel (or Judah) in the long run.
I think this is enough for this subthread so I am going to move on to other articles for comments. Peace to you.
Dear GB,
Thank you for your gracious reply.
Please consider the word “anarchy” in the original Greek; it’s doesn’t mean “lawlessness,” or murder, mayhem, and chaos, as our actually lawless, murderous, mayhem-producing and chaotic government is, it simply means “no rulers.” It simply means no other person controlling you. It’s not criminality, it’s freedom from the criminality of rulers.
As long as that group of people sit over you and tax you, you are handcuffed. You may not feel them, but that doesn’t matter. The fact of the situation is what matters. As Sam Adams said, “May the chains of your servitude weigh on you lightly.” As Jefferson wrote in the Declaration, we suffer evils as long as they remain sufferable. Like the proverbial frog in the slowly simmering pot.
Ancient Israel lived peacefully and peaceably during the almost 500 years of “the judges.” The judges were not “leaders.” They had no power over anyone else. They were simply community arbitrators between people in their own community settling the issues and disputes brought to the town elders to be settled fairly.
It was not “the leaders of Israel” who became corrupted and corrupted and abandoned the LORD’s commandments and laws. It was the priests who were to stand between the people and God to carry out the rituals and sacrifices on behalf of the people. It was the fed-up people who demanded a physical king to lead them. The problem was, as it always is, that having a human king did not fix the corruption of the priests, but exacerbated the corruption in other men, enabling even more corruption among the priesthood.
The failing is, as always, putting faith in other men instead of God. Seeking relief through other men rather than in being right with God and your fellow men and trusting that God is real and knows you personally, and whatever happens He is in control.
“In the long run” was the time of ancient Israel’s freedom under her humble judges, almost 500 years. Most of that time was peaceful and prosperous and free. When the kings came on, there were over 1,000 of misery and such corruption that even the corrupt Romans destroyed what was left of Israel, Judah, and their capital city of Jerusalem, and scattered the people into the nethers of the rest of the ancient world.
And here we are. Ripe for another such violent destruction and dispersal — and surely no one would argue that it isn’t “our” human, anti-God rulership instigating all this at the behest of shadowy men who rule us all and are determined to kill us off for their satisfaction. In far less time than 500 years, and no real spans of peace and prosperity.
I don’t mean to be trying to carry on an argument; only to try to correct some common misunderstandings that have contributed to the present state of affairs we find ourselves in. And the practical solution.
Our natural, God-created state of being is freedom in Him. It’s not a “theocracy;” He does not appoint any human being having supervisory and “enforcement” power over any other human being. That’s the vital part of the Bible people turn a blind eye to, and so fulfill Jesus’ warnings of “the blind leading the blind into the ditch, and all are lost.”
Please forgive me any offense. I mean none. I mean only to try to clarify in the hopes of growing the yearning for true freedom, peace, and prosperity. Without corrupt human beings wresting control of us and our lives, flaunting their criminal lawlessness and overweening arrogance.
None of us is born beholden to any other human being, except our own parents while we are growing up. Not beholden except in mutual respect and recognition that they were loved and created as independent men just like us, and so are free of unnatural and ungodly power and control of any other human being.
First, do no harm; don’t hit first. Second, do not steal; don’t envy, don’t lie about someone else to harm him, his reputation, his property, his family, his livelihood. Third, do not cheat; don’t commit fraud. Be honest in trade and all other dealings with other men. You wouldn’t want criminal things done to you, so don’t do them to anyone else.
These are the Ten Commandments and Christ’s Golden Rule. Simple. All that’s really necessary. It’s not a “theocracy” just because it comes from the Bible, is it?
Anyway, and God’s own peace be with you, friend. I wish you well.
I was contemplating the nature of humans just yesterday. With all our advancements, our enlightenment, our knowledge gained through the centuries, there are still those who have progressed no further than the early middle ages.
In fact, the wealthiest of mankind dream and plot to return to those days. They want to control us like serfs in their fiefdoms. I now believe they never really gave up that control.
Oh the left proclaim their social awakening (wokism), but that’s just a euphemism for victimhood. And victims are easily controlled when they choose to remain victims. What they don’t or won’t realize is they’re being victimized by those professing to save them.
So is a just government of people possible? Only for short periods I think. Then the worst of human nature begins its infestation, and the rot sets in. Look no further than the current regime, and this article, as evidence.
Exactly so.
Please see my reply to GB, above.
You might enjoy an article titled, “If Men Were Angels-The Basic Analytics of the State versus Self-Government,” by Robert Higgs. It’s online and free; not long, but packed with practical and logical points and principles.
It’s not impossible to attain this ideal. The obstacle is the religious worship of most people in the belief that we MUST have some men over us, and that by having them over us, they gain rights and privileges we do not have in ourselves.
Ask yourself: if you do not have certain rights, how can you give these “rights” to others, by any means, whether election, conquest, surrender, or any other means?
Who has a right to rule their fellow human beings?
Who is qualified to rule their fellow human beings?
Who says?
If you’ve never seen Snowden’s leaked Top Secret material, you should. There are NSA PowerPoint slides which show exactly how all tech companies share data in real time with the NSA. Literally, the NSA has fiber optic cables behind the firewalls of Google (gmail, ect.), Yahoo, Microsoft, ect. which immediately send ALL INFO received by these companies to the NSA. These slides are from around 2010-2013.
It was the government who did 9/11. It was the government who did JFK.
It is always the government, but who is the government really? They are not the elected officials.
I’ve read twice, I just have this nagging feeling I’m being played.
Greetings fellow “domestic terrorists!”
Plan accordingly. 🔥✝️🔥
This is election interference and a coup, nothing less. Even if Biden had really gotten more votes than PDJT, it would have been a stolen election.
Isn’t that what Seth Rich was doing? Wasn’t he doing something with the polling databases for the DNC?
Folks, this was already exposed! (And buried.) And there is a LOT here:
1. Cambridge scientist Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai – with 3 or 4 degrees from MIT – exposed this portal over a year ago!! He exposed the infrastructure in September 2020, and was kicked off Twitter.
winbackfreedom.com
2. FWIW, he also believes he had his election stolen in Massachusetts… their internal polls had him in great position… come election day, the only area he won had… paper ballots!!
3. I believe he has a two-prong lawsuit against the Federal gov’t, but I haven’t seen an update in over a year.
4. Over a year ago he named the Ivy League schools that helped design the portol, the protocol re ‘influencers’, etc., to target, and some of the people involved.
5. He also broke down – as a big data and math expert – how the 2020 election was stolen.
Given these items you can see why he is shadow banned or worse. (I’ve been negligent in following up on him.)
UPDATE: Sox of his complaints were denied, but he has uploaded all the documents.
“The court papers, brief, complaints, transcripts are located below for your transparent review and access.”
SUPPLEMENTAL MEMORANDUM REGARDING
ELECTIONS INTERFERENCE OPERATIONS PLAYBOOK
“On July 22, 2021, Dr.SHIVA, per Order from the Court, filed the Revised Second Amended Complaint, which includes the latest discovery of the domestic censorship infrastructure – a 24/7 speech surveillance SYSTEM to surveil, blacklist, and silence Americans – created by the RICO Defendants with *** Twitter, Harvard’s Belfer Center, Department of Homeland Security’s CISA***, and billionaires Pierre Omidyar and Mark Zuckerberg, to name a few. click this link to go direct to the PDF. Below are links to The Long Fuse Report, Exhibit A (on-line and high-res versions) of the Domestic Censorship Enterprise, Exhibit B, Exhibit C”
https://vashiva.com/first-amendment-twitter-galvin-lawsuit/
Real simple question here.
ISN’T THIS A VIOLATION of the FIRST AMENDMENT!!!???
And the reply from TPTB is “So?”
I’m wondering, did Bush create the DHS in good faith, and the Obama administration later co-opted and corrupted it, or was Bush in on it from the beginning?
While reading your post the question came to my mind….what ever happened to all those Islamic terror cells in the U.S. It’s like Islam and terror have fallen off the map. Amazing.
IMO, the DHS stuff goes back to before Daddy Bush was VP. Long, long time. This has been coming for decades.
The Russell Trust
Bushes…for generations.
Stop wondering. The Patriot was voted on a few weeks after the WTC attack. IOW it was a solution ready and waiting for the mother of all crises.
Bust set it up. Obama weaponized it.
Who is that behind Michelle? Is that Pence?
No.
It is not surprising that founder Glenn Greenwald’s former news outlet, the Intercept, was given the opportunity to “tell the world” a portion of the social media truth.
But what is revealed is a significant insight that backs up sundance’s earlier articles.
If we expand this back channel relationship between gov’t and social media and include fake news broadcasters like NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC (that receive collaborative scripts and talking points from the Dems or gov’t sources) and the politically corrupted Internet search engines like Google, Bing, Yahoo and now Duckduckgo that censor or direct customers to acceptable opinions as ordered, the range of gov’t control over information the people see is mind boggling.
This collusion is arguably the most corrupt and controlled gov’t/ media co-operation in world history.
It is only the stalwart “power of the people” like CTH, Substack, countless podcasts, some fledgling internet news networks and individual warriors et al that make it possible to counteract the massive collaboration of gov’t and corrupt media. (I know I missed many)
This will not be popular here, but some shows on FNC like Tucker Carlson provide a mainstream network path to the truth which also helps considerably. Some shows on GB News in the UK are making a difference like Oliver, Farage and Steyn.
New York Post – Facebook has been spying on the private messages and data of American users and reporting them to the FBI if they express anti-government or anti-authority sentiments — or question the 2020 election — according to sources within the Department of Justice.
And why is questioning the 2020 election something to report to the FBI? I can’t think of any reason except that the FBI has something to hide. Meanwhile, Catherine Englbrecht and Gregg Phillips are sitting in jail for refusing to identify their confidential source that the Konnech CEO was transferring election info to China. (For which he was arrested, although he was suing them for defamation) Yes, it is all connected. After all, a one world government couldn’t survive without a one world intelligence community.
Sundance, you might want to rephrase this sentence: “Does anyone need to be beaten with a hammer…”. OMG, LOL
I’ve been wondering how even Elon can afford to keep Twtter alive given that it’s been supported unknowingly by we the people so far.
Fascism, like all other off-shoots and forms of Marxism, is evil…. it needs to be stopped… and it is wholly forbidden by our Constitution… not to mention by the moral and natural law established by God Almighty.
May those who have embraced the diabolical desire to control and enslave their fellow human beings repent of their wickedness and come to Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God Who offers all of us forgiveness and redemption.
I said this here many months ago, several times, the post’s should still be in the CTH archives.
It’s not just social media comanies, but financial institutions and other companies as well. DHS seemed to be embedded in all of the banks and several other tech firms I did contract work at over the past 13 years in the USA.
I mentioned, that it was odd that I would go into the break rooms at several of these places and while I was waiting for the coffee to finish brewing, I would walk around the break room and notice OSHA postings on the wall instructing specifically what DHS contractors should do and where to report concerns if they have issues with their work conditions.
Also, due to my time spent in the D.C. metro area, ( Bethesda, Arlington, Alexandria and Fairfax and D.C. itself ), you can spot these guys from a mile away. They tend to be the ones camping out in their cubes and no one can tell you why they are there and nowadays when many IT departments are majority Indian H1B contractors, a white guy in a polo shirt wearing Dockers that you never see in any meetings ( individual or group ) or talking to anyone, tends to stand out, especially when everyone else is wearing jeans and tennis shoes.
I even had a guy come up and ask me if I worked for .gov because I just came in and had a pair of Oakley’s on top of my head. All I said was, “How would you know that ?” and I walked away.
Here you go: Representatives from JP freaking Morgan Chase (Jaime Dimon’s playpen) sat in on all the DHS censorship coordination meetings:
https://t.me/MrDirt8/335
Next target needs to be one of the big banks pushing the social credit scoring systems. Then the Intercept will get a confession that gov’t is pushing to quit funding oil and gas and setting food processing plants on fire.
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-most-important-whistleblower
I don’ t trust Musk.
He does business with the chicoms. Now is in business with US govt and give the illusion of freedom. True now people will be able to “freely” express themselves. But who is watching and then arrest them? The fourth branch.
No friends I do not trust Musk.
Musk was always a puppet, another front man with an oversized fluff piece driven reputation, like Dorsey or Brin or Zuckerberg.
The right question is: whose puppet is he now? And are his new puppet masters benign or malevolent?
The Patriot Act was the kick start to COG, Continuing of government. I don’t know enough about COG but hopefully someone here does. How many phases are set to apply, what’s next?
The mainstream media also are agents of our intelligence agency.
I can tell you that it is routine for campaigns to get into the backside of social media platforms. Engineers are increasingly important in campaigns. Now, data scientists with advanced fractal analysis are providing wildly sophisticated tools. Each and everyone of us has a campaign score.
So, as the Halloween surprise DHS leaks sends shockwaves across the Swampland, and as Musk disables the mute button on Catturd and reverses the ban on Mark Finchem within 24 hours . . .
Things can now surface on Twitter that would never before have been allowed to see the light of day.
It’s coming.
Curious side note, which may have no significance at all, or maybe a great deal. AMC closed Halloween trading at $6.66.
Could be a good time to watch a movie, maybe.
Could see this coming in the early 1990s.
I worked for a defense contractor on the evaluation of tactical data flow and expert system data analysis software for combat units.
That got me thinking of what government would do with the power to process and store all the data they could get.
Saw how early internet was developing.
Knew the NSA had always collected all commercial phone and electronic data it could get its hands on – because they could.
Government will always do things that increase its power and control. Much of this is done in cooperation with corporations. Always has been. Always will be.
They scorn legalities. All they care about is power and/or money.
Yep!
I still see their weakness, Electricity. Without their Precious electricity it all stops. Can you imagine the US without electricity. All we do revolves around electrical power. It is a massive big weakness. We know there are ways power can be turned of, by nature and man.
Never underestimate Gods ability to effect change, if these people are as evil as we know they are, God may say it is time!
any guesses as to the motivation for 9/11 ? unspeakable evil lives in our midst.
Can anyone imagine a head of twitter prior to Musk, to come out with the hilarious “Chief Twit” post by Musk? Great to have another billionaire with a wonderful sense of humor. I’m appreciating him more and more.
I fear only one thing is going to fix this.
the “intercept” is the “brainchild” of a billionaire with direct ties to both CIA and the most radical commies (literally).
understand who this man is. And why greenwald left that cess pool.
If you read it on the intercept, understand it was designed for a specific political and power based reason. Greenwalk walked right into it being promised independence he has EARNED from doing superior world shaping investigative journalism. Then the attorneys working as omidyar’s lapdogs big footed his work and successfully silenced him on a very important set of articles. In my opinion the intercept reached out to greewald and extended a handsome prize as a means to degrade him publicly. Which they did. Now, no one wants to print greenwald…this was the purpose of intercept. I’ve read numerous articles from intercept…it’s most unusual they seem to have incredible reach into some of the most sensitive intelligence matters and yet operate out of hawaii with very few investigative journalists on staff to crank out that kind of depth of work. Sometimes, when it quacks like a duck, it the cia.
Pierre Omidyar
The government paying a private company to violate someone’s First-Amendment-protected freedom of speech is still the government violating someone’s First-Amendment-protected freedom of speech. Change my mind.
You voiced my own opinion in “25 words or less”….ok 27….
Tip of the Iceberg, this is.
public-private partnership is the most streamlined definition of fascism. The state eliminates competition as it suppresses opposition. The technology and modern surveillance is beyond the wildest dreams of the Stasi, KGB and Gestapo. Simply canceling or shadow banning people is so much “cleaner” than marching chain gangs of thought prisoners, miles long, across the Ural Mountains to their doom in Siberia.
Sundance.
Recently I looked on USAjobs.gov and saw many, many new positions available regarding something to do with cybersecurity. Wonder if those positions are related? I would think that in the hiring process, the government will likely use the CISA to vet the individuals who apply.
Elon Musk Gets Word Of Advice From Jacinda Ardern: Twitter ‘Can Do A Huge Amount Of Harm’ If Misused (BY Benzinga)
New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Tuesday said Tesla Inc. NASDAQ:TSLA CEO and the new chief of Twitter Inc, Elon Musk, needs to “stick strongly to the principle of transparency.”
What Happened: Ardern, speaking at a national summit on countering terrorism and violent extremism, said, “While I haven’t had any opportunity to engage directly with Mr. Musk, I think the point I would make here is that social media and platforms like Twitter have a huge responsibility.”
“They can be a force for democracy, a force for connection, and for good. But also, if misused, can do a huge amount of harm,” the prime minister said, adding that she was yet to meet with Musk about the “Christchurch Call” initiative.
The “Christchurch Call” initiative was launched by Ardern and French President Emmanuel Macron in 2019, that has seen world leaders team up with tech giants, including Meta Platforms Inc NASDAQ:META and Alphabet Inc NASDAQ:GOOG NASDAQ:GOOGL, to tackle terrorist and extremist content online. The anti-online hate project was launched in the wake of the mass shootings at two Christchurch mosques in 2019.
She added that Twitter was one of the organizations that had been “deeply involved” and was a “really constructive partner” in the campaign so far.
Meanwhile, Musk has accused Twitter’s former board of directors and the company’s lawyers of “deliberately” hiding evidence.
Take a bow Sundance. Jacinda, the Witch of New Zealand, pretty much confirms what you’ve deduced.
“Freedom of Speech” but not on the internet?
Much like driving the freeway in a vehicle sooo regulated by govt you can’t tell one from the other.
(Tesla included)
We used to say you can’t use seven dirty words, couldn’t yell “fire” in a crowded space when there was none. And at all times, never suggest or condone violent acts.
That should be pretty easy to monitor, no?
And then add a disclaimer which states clearly anyone not adhering to these policies would have account suspended and/or be reported to law enforcement.
Government shaping acceptable communications should never be allowed.
This insidious method plays out in almost every thriller/suspense novel and movie. One can violate the law to do something everyone agrees with (e.g. stop jihadi terrorism, etc.). But now the illicit methods and techniques are established and accepted and used in ways that only some agree with.
Every minute the DHS stays in place then we have misprision of treason under our noses.
“media companies get financial offsets”
What about the best possible protection against being busted as a monopoly?
“the installation of Barack Obama”
Boy is that a pregnant phrase. Was Obama installed, and by whom? The CIA? Have I missed any of your essays about this?