The ‘cut to the chase‘ aspect of whether Ron DeSantis is planning to run for the GOP nomination in 2024 is made clear when you realize just how much money the Florida governor has amassed. A standing total exceeding $200 million.
That $200 million is not only a staggering amount far beyond the need for his virtually certain governor’s victory, but also the largest amount of campaign money ever assembled by a governor in the history of politics {citation}. Meg Whitman, California ($176 million), and Jay Pritzker, Illinois ($176 million), were both multi-millionaires and funded the majority of their war chest. Almost all (96%) of DeSantis’ money is coming from multinational corporations, hedge funds, Wall Street firms and billionaires {citation}.
For those who are unfamiliar with the strategies of political funding, there is a timing that also highlights the intent. A conspicuously aligned timing that coincides with the Trump raid on Mar-a-Lago. Campaign finance reports are required and filled out quarterly. DeSantis had a massive war chest assembled through August 5th.
That finance revelation was immediately before the August 8th raid, before the week in the bunker, and before DeSantis reemerged August 14th with a new national branding team and communication change.
DeSantis took in even more billionaire donor checks with the national kick-off.
Everybody familiar with politics knows what that level of preparation and strategy means. DeSantis wasn’t amassing money of that scale, and simultaneously launching a new national branding campaign, for a state reelection bid. He was/is preparing for a 2024 presidential run. The only question was whether DeSantis had direct knowledge of the August 8th raid on Trump in advance, or whether he was just told not to ask questions and follow the advice of his new GOPe team. The latter is more likely.
That said, the best laid plans of mice and men were disrupted by the MAGA response to the Trump raid. As noted in the article shared by President Trump today, the professional republican donor class had -not accidentally- done a great job using their piranhas to nibble away at Trump’s support prior to the August 8th raid. However, the raid rallied the base of MAGA back to defend Donald Trump.
By the time DeSantis came out of his pre-planned bunker phase (Aug 8th through Aug 14th) the support for Donald Trump had surged again. The professionally republican handlers launched the national DeSantis campaign into indefatigable pro-Trump headwinds. DeSantis Inc stuck to the plan, but the benefit they anticipated was not there.
Unfortunately for DeSantis there’s no good way to retreat from the 2024 strategy his handlers and donors have mapped out. They have pushed him ‘all-in.’ I don’t think it’s possible for DeSantis Inc to back-down after accepting all that GOPe money, unless there is a way for them to return or redirect it.
The article President Trump shared today is a good contextual article describing the accuracy of the Trump -v- DeSantis landscape as it existed on August 29th, the date it was written.
One of the citations in the article points to John Thomas who was prepared with a pro-DeSantis PAC if the republican plan against Trump had succeeded.
As noted, the plan didn’t succeed, and with the outcome of the fulcrum event, the Mar-a-Lago raid, not having the desired effect, Thomas has now abandoned the idea of using the PAC to advance DeSantis.
(Business Insider) – […] But at least one GOP operative — John Thomas, founder and president of the political advertising and strategy group Thomas Partners Strategies — thinks it’s better for DeSantis to wait than to try to challenge Trump in 2024.
“I wouldn’t advise him to go head to head with Trump,” Thomas told Insider. “It’s not gonna go well for DeSantis.”
Until recently, Thomas was independently readying a political action committee to support DeSantis running for president.
But now he predicts DeSantis would be unsuccessful if he tried to challenge Trump. If DeSantis were to run, he said, he wouldn’t have to just compete with Trump’s name recognition and donor network. DeSantis would also risk seeing what would happen if Trump’s followers suddenly viewed him as anti-Trump.
Right now, DeSantis is seen as not just pro-Trump but as being Trump 2.0, Thomas said. To run against Trump, he said, DeSantis would have to convince Trump’s core electorate to break away from him.
“Right now he can have his cake and eat it too,” he said. “He can be Trumpy and supportive. But he would have to argue that he’s better, or Trump is bad. And that is a fault line that is probably a bridge too far for the Republican electorate in 2024.” (read more)
At this rate, how quickly this country is dying( economically, morally & socially etc) under the Mao Xi-den Marxist/Fascist Regime we better pray that this country is around in 2024. Two years is a long time. Just look at the destruction this REGIME has accomplished in LESS than two years.
The intelligence and intuition of Trump and his team keeps asserting itself. The sharing of that Business Insider article indicates not only is Trump totally aware of what the GOP machine is quietly doing, but brings that information out to people who haven’t made the connection. And frankly, it’s good advice for DeSantis, as well.
Practically within margin of error against traitor Pence. His campaign lasted about 5 weeks.
Does he personally get to keep any unspent $$$ of the $200M?
Bernie Sanders kept those campaign dollars – even with his wife taking 10% off the top by getting paid to act as his campaign manager – renting banquet halls, tour buses, limos, private planes, printing campaign signs, or 10% of $80 million in donated campaign cash, equaling $8 million to ‘run for president’ without actually wanting to win the job as president, because he might actually have to do something like work, which he’s never done in his 60 some years on this planet.
Unfortunately, these national POLs are nearly 100% corrupt. And for decades, I have been donating to many thinking this will end. NFW, without Trump at the helm. There is no other POL able and willing to right our ship.
voted for him twice but he made a lot of mistakes: many, many poor, disloyal, chickenshit appointees; got sucked into the vax madness; never really touted ivermectin; expanded nato; sanctioned russia.
hope he has learned some from watching, particularly the mar a lago raid.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. He’s a good person who has consistently used bad judgement in the people he surrounded himself with. He ran on a “Drain the Swamp” platform which we all voted for and supported. In 4 years he just added to the swamp in incredible numbers. I’m still pissed over the litany of names he saddled this Republic and the average American with. Operation “Warp Speed” has cost 100’s of thousands of Americans thier health and many their lives.
I am so pissed I can’t see straight! If Trump gets the nomination I will vote for him, as there is no choice. But I would be just as happy if DeSantis was the nominee. I’ve seen him stand up to the leftist/communist establishment like no other. He is no fool and will not make such asinine appointments. We are fast losing this country to socialist totalitarianism and we really can’t afford any more wasted chances to save our great Republic.
Yah. That’s ringing a bell, although I didn’t have all those details in my mind. These people have no shame.
they kicked Bernie out of a commune in Israel because he refused to contribute any work to the common effort
No, he is Republican. Only the Democrooks can get away with that.
I think he can keep the money to use in a future campaign. Anything else would not be legal.
state campaign funding CANNOT legally be converted to federal campaign funding…..if he is doing the DS bidding though I am sure little things like laws will be ignored however
someone should question biden on ukraine, russia, israel, and the one-state solution.
he is too much of a blank slate to be considered presidential material yet, even beyond his financial backers.
You mean the parts he hasn’t already laundered over to himself or friends/family?
Pompeo is not listed ? huh
Isn’t that a brand of olive oil?
Interesting omission…though I hope to never see that man again.
Maybe he came out statistically insignificant.
De Santis is an updated RINO
De Santis is MAGA lite
De Santis is a virtue signalling Cultural MAGA
De Santis gets his money and his power from Wall Street
De Santis virtue signals by sending 50 illegals to Martha Vinyard while his state has 2 million illegals total
De Santis will try to capture MAGA networks when the deep state removes Trump
De Santis will implement a Cultural MAGA stripped of all of Trump MAGA economic and geopolitics
De Santis will implement a Wall Street friendly MAGA
De Santis will convert Economic MAGA into the conservative version of WOKE
Agree … but … De Santis sending 50 illegals to Martha’s Vineyard was excellent … those elite RATS publicly “bidened” all over themselves … and Powerline will beautifully exploit those optics through 2024.
Regarding a DeSantis 2024 run … with the bushCARTEL & JUDASpence involved it’s a guaranteed failure.
It did further expose the limousine liberals for what they are. It’s useful, but it is virtue signaling.
If Texas is successful in its efforts at regaining control over the border, they will begin collecting any illegals in Texas to send them directly back over the border. And if DeSantis doesn’t ship his illegals over to Texas for export back over the border, then it will say a lot more about him.
On what planet does Cheney garner 4% support among Republicans?
It comes from the RINO’s?
At least the ones who aren’t backing Egghead McMuffin?
GOPe like George Will and Ms. Lindsey etc
The bushCARTEL.
The WINNING ticket in 2024 would be TRUMP/DeSantis. As VP, DeSantis would have 4 years to help drain the Swamp, before becoming POTUS in 2028 and 2032. He would also have the chance to learn more from PDJT.
Uh, no.
No, instead let’s pick another Pence, since that worked out so well. I would say no to DeSantis as VP since if he served, he’d be leaving Florida to twist in the wind. We need some solid states such as Florida to serve as examples to the rest of the nation. So Dante, who would you propose instead? I’d pick a placeholder from a significant state such as Haley.
Haley?!?!!
She’s another JUDASpence.
Planned spy, IMHO.
Nimrata is not eligible to run for high office. She is an anchor baby…foreigner.
Many wanted to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket, the latter as VP. That notion no longer exists as DeSantis can’t be trusted. It’s amazing how politicians can be manipulated into digging their own grave.
Leaders are leaders. Politicians are whores.
Just silly, unless $$$$.
Trump is my President. DeSantis is not.
ron who?
Trump’s Cabinet was McConnell picked … that Chinese lapdog made it perfectly clear he (the Senate) would only approve the pre-approve names on his RINO Traitors list – starting with JUDASpence and Session’s.
That actually makes sense.
Trump’s picks were often terrible.
Even his 3 SCOTUS picks were not great but those were McConnell candidates 100%
Yes… but we absolutely must get Ron D to run WITH Trump. Combine the power, let Trump take most of the venom from the dying deep state snake and then DeSantis clean up the mess from that fight to the death starting in 2028. America could well be in shambles at that point & a good strong leader is needed for the rebuild. Ripping out the weeds of the globalist socialist Deep State will reach into every aspect of society because of the high % of indoctrinated members of the leftist woke citizenry. This won’t be clean or easy or quick
Funny thing sato422, our Marxist friends believe in re-education too. They’ve already perfected the format. It’s called “liberal arts college.” To us, politics is agreeing to disagree. To our opponents, it’s a war to the finish!
Nope … DeSantis needs to stay in Florida … keep his $200million chest … and if he chooses – run in 2028.
Right now he’s nothing more than a “national” RINO lackey.
The majority – viewed as street trash pawns by the RATS – will be dead, drugged out, depressed over cut-off body parts and fortunately will not pro-create.
The real problem are the wealthy RINORAT demon-spawn … they will be educated and even more dangerous than the Soros DA’s
So you want another 80 year old man in the White House? Hasn’t the man been thru enough for his country to date? How about a fresh face backed by Trump who has Trump-like ideals – i.e. DeSantis?
Yes, I want THIS 80-year-old man in the White House if the alternative is a Republican who has already been clearly co-opted by the GOP establishment and is now owned by them.
no
Because DeSantis isn’t Trump ….. DeSantis sold out.
Nice try – but no cigar.
LOL….a shill or you buy into the propaganda?
…see that’s where you’re wrong. He ACTS like he has “Trump-like ideals” but he’s not MAGA. True MAGA would have torn the bark off the DOJ for what they did in Maralago. In this case his silence was deafening, which is Sundance’s point
Looks like the “DeSantis for Prez Team” is on this thread.
I have a different take on this drama. IMO, DJT has no intention of running again, never did. He knows he can’t win. DJT is the consummate showman. That isn’t a criticism, it is who he is. He could very well be working with Desantis. If Desantis decides to run, Trump will support him.
There have been many times Trump’s choices of affiliations left me scratching my head. No one on the outside really knows what is playing out inside the “palace”. For all we know Don and Ron chat every morning. The first ladies may buy the same shoes and shop together. We simply do not know.
I’m betting you have absolutely no idea what DeSantis’s policies even are. That’s how we always end up with RINO’s.
Not advocating for Desantis or his policies, merely posing some thoughts. Reject them if they don’t fit for you.
Don’t worry – we will.
Michael, we wind up with Rinos because they are usually our only choices. Even PDJT tells us to pull a full “R” lever and most here advocate doing whatever Trump says. Being a resident of PA, Oz was pushed on us. We had a more MAGA candidate in the primary who Oz defeated, likely due to Trump’s endorsement. Please don’t tell me you know Oz’s policies.
Isn’t every election a choice of ‘the lesser of two evils’ to vote for, as no candidate will ever be found which every voter is happy with & checks all their favorite boxes/causes?
Agree with that in general. It’s really only been in more recent years that we realized the machinations of the big club, who really belongs and who they serve. DJT brought that to light. We get to vote for the lesser of their evil choices. The minute we vote OUR choice in, they look to destroy us all.
And we keep playing their game, because we don’t want to face the pain of hard choices. So we remain contained. Like animals in their zoo.
We are the target…Trump is in the way!
The fact that DeSantis is supported by the treasonous bushCARTEL says it all.
Oz may not be that good but “Fetterwoman” is exponentially worse.
The man can’t complete a sentence!
How can he be part of “the most deliberative body” on the planet?
Well OK, the Senate is teaming with morons but most of them can at least carry-on a conversation?
I would say very few can carry a conversation past two sentences….LOL…… have you listened to their speeches?…..I am often in askance that some are holding JDs and are members of the bar
Is DeSantis sending his illegal aliens to northern states & DC? Didn’t DeSantis end race baiting classes in schools? Didn’t he stand up to the Disney gay mafia & hiring foreign workers to replace American workers?
Those planes picked up the illegals in San Antonio, Tx. They were not in FL.
Yeah, he’s been a great governor, just like Scott Walker was. What happened to Scott Walker once he became a national candidate?
Excellent example.
We can’t afford to be disappointed with another Scott Walker, whom I found very impressive at the start.
The stakes are too high now.
Doing the right thing for his state IS HIS JOB!!!
He’s NOT ready for the Whitehouse – yet.
Overthink much ?
Nah, never was into the 64D chess.
Clever , I guess , not really zzz
Troll.
OldSchool is making some very good points and presents the argument well. Quite a few people have this type of argument because “we” do not know. I personally have several scenarios each of which I can present for a discussion. Thinking persons think and discuss.
Sniping and one liners are not advancing the discussion. Frankly it demonstrates a lack of ability, or substance, to argue or discuss properly.
Everyone should be watching big money, this is the whole point of the Sundance essay and most likely why Trump made people aware of the Business Insider article.
That fraud Pompeo even thinks he is running for gosh sakes. People need to get over being uncomfortable by facts because the dose of reality that is coming will be hard to snipe and one line away.
We are getting played and distracted on purpose. If McConnell agrees to a continuing resolution “budget”, no matter what happens in November the spending sticks until January 2024. IRS 87k stands, money to arming Nazis stands, transgender surgery stands, electric cars stand. Tracking how far a person drives stands.
We are in a fight for survival right now. Assuming President Trump, or anyone, is going to save us in two years is a pipe dream. There might be nothing left to save. Maybe you should be thinking about that possibility instead of sniping towards people, a lot can happen in two years. None of it good.
you Hurt my feelings ….
I would bet dollars to donuts that Old. School here really Doesn’t want PDJT to run and a lot of conjecture and wasted space to circle that square ..and THAT is my opinion
Brevity is the soul of wit?
Resist the Left!
MAGA!
You Nailed it , Rusty !
Trump choosing to share an article on social media saying “DeSantis should not run” would make it difficult for Trump to be planning to support DeSantis. Trump plans to run. And if he does, he will win.
We really don’t know what Trump plans, just an opinion. Based on 2020 and all things downstream from that, I am not sure of anything.
Here’s another thought on that. What if Trump knows that Desantis would never get GOP support if he was Trump’s guy and he’s just doing a bit of a two step here? Maybe Trump’s intention is to freeze out Pence? Nikki?
When you build castles in the air with hypothesis upon untested hypothesis rather than on analysis of past actions of the players all you get is a lot of rubble.
Agree. We are standing in a pile of it.
JUDASpence may get the
limpwristed RINO vote … but WeThePeople will NEVER vote for the devil who certified the stolen election for the braindead Soros Prop in the fake whitehouse
Well, he won last time, too.
There’s a “one-liner” I can get behind!
As in 2016, Trump won’t run in 2024 because he wants to be President.
He will run because he wants to Make America Great Again!
Being President is, was, and will be the best way for him to do that?
If you still haven’t gotten around to reading ‘the art of the deal ‘ now is a good time.
Really? Ron is being courted by the GOP members of the elitist cabal. We can’t know exactly what’s in his mind but all that corporate money has strings.
Eventually, we shall see, but don’t kid yourself, all money has strings.
Trump = Kingmaker. I think that’s what you’re saying. I agree.
Yes, TY.
Oh, we know.
Sorry, your take is the wrong take.
IMO, DJT is not a shallow showman and is not Machiavellian. He shows us who he is.
DJT is for America First. MAGA. That’s why we love him. He’s not a smarmy, no charisma politician (think Ron) who wormed his way up the ranks with a law degree and who is funded by the establishment bankers and RINOs and swamp creatures.
DJT may not run in 2024 but he is NOT playng cute games in 2022. Period.
Melania shops at designer shops…Jill shops at Old Navy and inappropriately at Forever 21?
You are misreading one of PDJT’s greatest strengths…He doesn’t walk away from a fight.
He gets his strength from taking on his adversaries!
Was referring to the first lady of Florida. The conversation was about Trump and Desantis.
“He knows he can’t win.” Are you joking? The only way he can’t win would be due to massive election fraud. He probably won in 2020 by 20 points with over 400 electoral votes.
The Democrats and RINOs exist only by cheating. Stop or eliminate the cheating and Donald J. Trump wins by a landslide. Again.
For Sundace’s theory to be correct you would almost have to assume that DeSantis and Trump never communicate. This not a reasonable assumption
Totally agree.
DeSantis has Big GOPe Donor support (so did ¡Jeb!) what more do I need to know
DeSantis is my Governor until 2026.
Trump is my President until 2028.
DeSantis is my President until 2036.
Thank God for both of them.
By 2028 Trump will be 82 – Do you want another 80 year old president in office? Can’t we vote for someone under the age of 50?
At this time, yes I would prefer to have an 80 year old Trump in office
No – because with age comes wisdom (unless one is Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc.).
You will figure it out some day if you live long enough.
I remember when someone started a “never trust anyone over 30” movement.
Then we realized that without life experience one cannot make good decisions.
Did you just raise that movement to “under 50”? I am laughing so hard.
replying to the sleeping dog
I already thought 50 was the new 30.
Sanity prevails.
As many others think, a Trump – DeSantis administration though 2028 followed by two De Santis terms through 2036 plus another tranche or two for his successors, would inspire a long-term American renaissance decisively rejecting Rats’ current, metastasizing protocols. If this requires banking donors’ fires through 2028, we’ll take it– in any case, as CTH concisely states, much of this Florida Governor’s support aims to co-opt DeSantis’ stance rather than further his libertarian-populist agenda.
The problem is that “playing personalities” on this historic level is a dangerously contingent game. Among other things, a possible Constitutional Conventional could radically skew America’s fundamental charter, while global events –including major Sino-Russian moves– remain unforeseeable.
Given dumbed-down, wimped-out Millennials’ predominance (born 1993- 2016) to age 58 in 2050, resurgence is by no means given. But as ever, salvation lies in deeds, not words. Either the country’s old root-stock, allied with many a devoted newcomer, “takes action against a sea of troubles” or age-old gangster coteries recalling Timon of Athens, the Gracci brothers, Sulla, Catiline, will foment divide-and-rule, or ruin; something-for-nothing; us-against-them. Easy enough to tear things down, “building back” takes generational epochs.
“salvation lies in deeds, not words.”
Glad you believe this. Now, show me DeSantis’s deeds.
Isn’t it funny how some people think that taking campaign funds from big party (including democrat) donors is not a big, red flag? RDS has been purchased by the “Big Club”. He is now in with the Pence, P Ryan, Romney, Noem, Haley crowd.
He could have funded his campaign for governor re-election by becoming (even if fake) MAGA. He has PDJT right there in his state! Yet, he did not collaborate with, participate with, or put himself anywhere near PDJT.
They could have been a 2-man force of political nature in Florida for the past 18 months. But RDS did not do that.
That tells me that long before PDJT moved to Florida, RDS already had done the Uniparty handshake, opened up the offshore bank account, and got the Party Manual on how to proceed to become the fake “plant based meat” versus “real meat”.
Yup. Romney and Obama campaigns had nearly all the same donors. And we are supposed to believe the recent troll infestation is all well-meaning republican voters.
You’d think they would try a new playbook by now.
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You must not live in florida. Or Martha’s vineyard
I, for one, was growing to see de Santis and the Florida legislature’s 10th Amendment powers as a glimmer of hope as the first sanctuary state for patriots. I had already gone down a couple of times looking for property. Then came the Mara-a-Lago raid.
Mar-a-Lago was de Santis’ opportunity to walk through the Deep State fires with Trump. Yet, as his greatest moment of Nullification had come, de Santis’ silence was deafening. It is another painful truth in the reality of our single party system. The ramifications of such an ugly reality are hard to take but it is part of recovery for anyone with lingering effects of Battered Conservative Syndrome.
In this too, Donald Trump will draw out the GOPe’s role in promoting de Santis for 2024. The GOPe would normally be floating the Uniparty (R) choice around this time in the election cycle. Haley, Pence and Noem all went over like lead balloons. So has this one.
Trump is not shy. If he were angry with DeSantis, he already would have blasted him. Lee Zeldon would have been angry too.
Here’s how this will all play out if we allow it….
DeSantis is the new MSM darling. They’ve built up this image of DeSantis that doesn’t really exist, but many fall for it anyway as they often do. The Swamp uses DeSantis to get rid of Trump in the primaries, but then when the real contest comes around, the general election, DeSantis’s real record will be put on display for all to see, and many MAGA will be so disappointed that they believed the lie.
But by then, it will be too late, because the damage has already been done, and the Swamp will have taken out all their enemies, using their enemies themselves to defeat them. The Swamp has no intentions of bringing DeSantis to the dance. He’s too much of a wild card that they can’t trust, can’t control. Biden is much more controllable.
If MAGA has any chance of surviving, it must be smarter than this.
That, IMHO, has just played out. We in the branches cannot say that Sundance hasn’t laid this out for us – in spades, from the big picture down to the granular detail.
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“MAGAnomics is the core of the great MAGA republican coalition, a working-class coalition that cuts through all other distinctions and divisions. It is not republican because of political affiliation, it is “MAGA republican” only because the republican party was the political vehicle selected by Donald Trump to install the policy.”
“Because MAGA national economic priorities conflict with the multinational corporations, hedge funds and the Wall Street donor class, all of the politicians who accept the influence checks from these self-interested groups cannot run on, or deliver, a MAGA national economic agenda.”
“In essence, if you take money from the multinationals you cannot deliver on MAGA economic outcomes for banking, trade, finance etc. And that’s exactly where we run into the problem.”
“$200 million is not only a staggering amount far beyond the need for his virtually certain governor’s victory, but also the largest amount of campaign money ever assembled by a governor in the history of politics {citation}. Meg Whitman, California ($176 million), and Jay Pritzker, Illinois ($176 million), were both multi-millionaires and funded the majority of their war chest. Almost all (96%) of DeSantis’ money is coming from multinational corporations, hedge funds, Wall Street firms and billionaires {citation}.”
The Swamp uses DeSantis to get rid of Trump in the primaries…
Uh, I don’t see how – not with those poll numbers.
You saw what happened to the 15 splitters last time. No way 2024 splitters will have any better luck…
I am glad DeSantis has prepared. I would not want him to run against Trump. He would lose and damage both brands. But, being prepared should Trump be unable to run or to run as a VP with Trump takes planning. So I am glad DeSantis is planning.
Planning for what? To become yet another figurehead of America’s lavish death march?
Nothing good for freemen and patriots will come from the globalist multinational cabal that is funding him.
I find it odd that Kalifornia’s governor nettlesome is goading Governor DeSantis into a debate over illegals. It seems to me that the swamp wants this match up in 2024 and both parties are in concert to make this debate happen before the midterm election as a prelude to the presidential race of 2024. It would be nice to see DeSantis mop the floor with nettlesome and to see if DeSantis has been lured deep into the swamp.
Always the same script, just new actors.
Could it be Martha’s Vineyard was the trailer for this version, starring Newsom and de Santis?
What might happen if Trump decides that he and Melania miss the four seasons, and are moving further north, to another State. New York is out, but he may really like his property in New Jersey.
The Constitutional prohibition againt individuals from the same State being elected as Pres and VP by the Electoral College would be avoided.
How fun will that be?
Well, you never want a candidate who is from a state he can’t carry, and I can tell you that the People’s Republik of New Jersey is a state Donald Trump would not carry.
first WHY should PDJT change HIS residency….he would lead the ticket and has been mentioned it is normal for the lead to TAKE his home of record in the election…….PDJT has already sacrificed so much especially financially from his first 4 years and its aftermath lowering his net worth SIGNIFICANTLY……why should he subject himself to NJ state taxes on behalf of RDS to the of MILLION$?….finally as PDJT has already presented RDS is not trustworthy as a MAGA candidate so what in the world makes you think he trusts him as a VP running mate?
I was dismayed by the flight jacket ad of Ron DeSantis as this is not his image as far as I am concerned and wrote to him immediately to say “don’t do it – don’t make me choose because you will lose.”
IMO a Trump/DeSantis ticket ’24 is a great idea with DeSantis becoming a presidential candidate In 2028.
It is those fools with TDS that can’t stand the idea.
There is the off chance that Trump will not run in which case Ron DeSantis is a good candidate, IMO.
Bush was to Reagan, as Pence was to Trump, as de Santis would be to Trump
Where’s the wall? Stupid idea anyway. No man’s land from southern border to ten miles south. Scrape every living thing south of the TX,AZ,NMandCA Border Create a no go zone. Mexican land =Mexico pays. No tunnels Anyone who runs that fast can represent the USA in the Olympics. If AMLO objects. Another 5 miles and a Patriot missile on his head will solve that.
Precedent? Read about pancho villa
After what we now know about his donors and his calculated silence about the Mar a Lago raid DeSantis has a lot to prove before I’d want him standing next to Trump in the VP slot. Like Pence he would be in a good position to wield a dagger.
Aren’t you tired of “pushing the button for the lesser of two evils.” I know I am. I only have so many years left on God’s green earth, and I am going to try to make them count, not just for me but for my children and grandchildren. It’s time to right this ship or it will sink.
I am thinking.perhaps Trump really knows all about this..Just as there..is assumption in a lot of this because we don’t know what DeSantis..plan is..it could be Trump knows and is planning in case of an issue that raises itself on his side of running in 2024..Trump is always ahead of the game..and he may have discussed this with DeSantis..They spent a lot of time together at Mar a Lago..so..who knows what they may have discussed..With the commies going after Trump the way they have I am sure Trump is considering everything..!!!
Could be but there’s still the money. Consider Sundance’s point above…………….
“I don’t think it’s possible for DeSantis Inc to back-down after accepting all that GOPe money, unless there is a way for them to return or redirect it.”
Can’t prove anything but I read comments about a falling out with DeSantis at Maralargo. Something supposedly happened between DeSantis and Melania and Kimberly that was not good.
How is it that people do not understand?
Sundance outlined the betrayal
Now, President Trump has posted something about it
I love Trump & voted for him twice, but let’s face the facts that the man would be in his 80’s if he won office – Do you honestly want another geriatric president? Might the best ticket be DeSantis backed by Trump, or DeSantis President & Trump as VP?
In a word yes. If Trump is your “geriatric” BTW incorrect characterization according to the definition “for or relating to old people: old and weak”
Don’t judge a book by it’s cover or a wine by it’s age. Trump is the keenest, most vigorous, indefatigable and committed President America has ever had.
Forecasting that Trump is going to lose/has lost his edge is gas lighting. I have to question the motive of those who spread that line because it sounds logical but is completely erroneous. Seems calculated to mislead. Trump is a man, the sum of his qualities and should be judged accordingly not on the basis of age but of ability.
de Santis proved his loyalties when he stood down at Mar-a-Lago. Trump has been through the fire for us and back again. He now tells us he is not finished. I’d not care if he was 90.
There is nothing else but empty promises in the wings. There is no comeback for Liberty after this. We have one shot and it is found standing with Donald Trump
Four years but then what, the end? my guess is that President would want MAGA to survive him.
Without hope the people perish.
The fact that you keep posting the same message over and over again in the same thread seems rather trollish or coordinated to me. Trump looks younger, healthier and more vibrant now than he did in 2016. His age is no deterrent to me. In every way, he’s 20 years younger than the current installed occupant of the WH.
It would be nice to make money posting on message boards, wouldn’t it? 😆
Look at Queen Elizabeth, at the age 96, 3 days before her death, she was making decisions for her country
How many times do we have to endure your repetitive comment about PDJT’s age?? Again and again and again.
It’s what he’s been assigned to do, over and over again and again.
LRD – you are posting the same message over and over regarding DJT’s age…do you work for the RDS campaign by any chance?
we get it you do not trust PDJT anymore…guess what…WE DO!!!!……..you have made your point now skedaddle
The Republican Party of Palm Beach County is 100% supportive of President Trump in 2024. Personally, I am looking forward with great anticipation and enthusiasm. I think this feeling is nearly universal.
On the other hand, suppose, for some reason, Donald Trump does not run then….best to have a well-funded backup.
Sounds more like hedging the bet than 100% confidence.
Trump is running. Take it the bank.
Should Donald Trump change his mind, all you need for a backup plan is to be prepared to support the candidate he endorses.
“MAGAnomics is the core of the great MAGA republican coalition, a working-class coalition that cuts through all other distinctions and divisions. It is not republican because of political affiliation, it is “MAGA republican” only because the republican party was the political vehicle selected by Donald Trump to install the policy.”
Maybe Allen West has a bit of advice to share with us on the Bush Clan and Florida GOPe support down in Palm Beach County?
I think the assumption that DeSantis is the presumptive successor to Trump (I’m positive Trump is running – just waiting for the midterms to be done) is premature. I would not be surprised if Kari Lake becomes the star of MAGA. I don’t believe Kari Lake will ever be co-opted by the GOPe. She is a candidate they will try to destroy. She is very much like President Trump and the appeal of a strong attractive female MAGA candidate will dwarf DeSantis.
I’m just looking at the circumstances today. Time will tell, but I believe Kari Lake will be AZ governor and she will barnstorm the Biden Regime within a year. She has very strong policies in mind for AZ and executive branch of the AZ government will be all in support of her. Her actions will suck all the wind out of weak Abbott and GOPe DeSantis.
People like the fake Nikki and Kristi Noem will be like smoke in the wind. Kari will be Trumps greatest ally in his battle in 2025.
Kari Lake will make RDS’ posturing look like the shadow casting that it is….with effective action taken against both election fraud and immigration lawlessness the impotence of the federal government to do anything when a state acts within its 10th Amendment powers will be revealed
May you both be right!
I haven’t seen a single negative about Kari – before November she will getting another of my small donations. I recommend that to everyone who can manage it.
We need to keep her campaign going because she’s sworn not to take the big donor money and I believe her. They wouldn’t give it to her anyway because she understands and speaks about the Big Steal.
Absolutley Trump 2.0…Can he (Desantis) hang on to that money until 2024?
The question is…. can he hang on to the money if he comes out as 100% authentic MAGA?
” I don’t think it’s possible for DeSantis Inc to back-down after accepting all that GOPe money, unless there is a way for them to return or redirect it.”
Once a rino always a rino
Once a MAGA always a MAGA
People must know the difference and make a choice
Enough of this “backing down”, 3-D chess, secret deals
behind closed doors” etc.
This is really pissing me off. Trolls or confused people,
or even dumbasses.
DeSantas must be made to understand that he will be challenging the incumbent in President Trump. PDJT is the leader of the Republican Party.
Fall in line, Ron. You’re a great Gov.
“Piranhas nibbling away ” at President Trump’s support?
I suspect not. Noone that I know has wavered one bit in their
support for President Trump. If anything, their support has
increased to the point that they will not vote for any other
republican.
“I don’t think it’s possible for DeSantis Inc to back-down after accepting all that GOPe money, unless there is a way for them to return or redirect it.”
There you have it...you don’t think it’s possible.
You could be wrong. Now isn’t that possible? In fact probable?
The Sun does not revolve around Trump despite the fact everyone who voted for him (me) know the election was rigged and stolen from him and us by extension But realist must look ahead and play a long game against our enemies in the Uniparty. DeSantis is the top player in that farm team right now.
No. Kari is. For now.
The top player must be a warrior fighting the 2020 steal or no dice.
A lot will be happening in between!
If it could be legally done, could/should/would DeSantis be PDJT’s VP pick? That would carry DeSantis through to 2028. In addition to the legality of it, I would hate to see DeSantis leave the governorship of FL early. While the state is red, it could be made redder and DeSantis has been instrumental in making that happen.
Whelp, I think Trump is waiting until AFTER the midterms because its up to we the people to straighten out this election integrity problem. He is only one man, he cannot fix all of it. If he announces now and the left steal the midterms the country is gone anyway. There probably will be no 2024 election. One thing Trump is not is stupid. He will not run if he cannot get the backing of Congress. Getting rid of the left including the Communist Socialist McConnell is a must. That will be up to the midterm MAGA people taking seats in January 2023. If they do not move to vote out McConnell and clear a path to Conservatism, he won’t waste his time.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic.
In Matha’s Vineyard drama, the left has a Stalinist attitude towards this quote. Somehow, the transport of fifty illegal aliens to their hallowed Massachusetts island grounds and screaming about it is a tragedy, but the secretive transport of five million immigrants around the country since Biden took office is only a statistic.
People who think Gov. Ron DeSantis is not running in 2024 are mistaken. Nobody is distancing himself from every one of the Democrats’ insane policies like Ron DeSantis, and I include Donald Trump in my statement, too.
While there should not be a bitter contest for the Republican nomination, one can’t help getting the feeling that former President Trump might be a stalking horse for Ron DeSantis. Irrespective of media-generated polls, Ron DeSantis, is gathering strength and national political acumen. It is true that DeSantis does not have a massive following but do not be surprised if he starts sharing the limelight with President Trump at Trump’s rallies. Until then, the Democrats don’t know which target to draw their focus towards.
DeSantis has the best political instincts of any active politician today, and there’s not even a close second. Almost to a T, RINOs and other Republicans come off as impotent on illegal immigration and the Dodd decision; DeSantis comes off as the only Republican with courage, articulation skills, and the strength to take the Democrats on—and he plays offense. DeSantis doesn’t care that the media hates him. Some people think he wants the media to hate him.
Trump, DeSantis, St Francis of Assisi, or Mother Theresa? Does it matter? The same DNC playbook of sowing panic, confusion, conjecture, division, and amplifying that noise until the weaklings and moral cowards are driven away from voting.
On the surface, Ron DeSantis is Trump without the baggage. Trump could sit in the background and do what he does best: be a kingmaker. After the mid-term elections, the drumbeat narrative is the Biden DOJ will move forward and indict Donald Trump for obstruction. Using an all Progressive/Democrat Washington, DC jury who will undoubtedly convict him, if that’s the case, we will need a guy who can win big in 2024 to rectify the mess, then pardon Trump and his associates. That guy is DeSantis.
If DeSantis is the nominee, the DNC will present plenty of “downside” to voters just like they would with any other Republican candidate. We have yet to see DeSantis take a significant stand against anyone in the RNC donor or leadership class, except for everyone’s punching bag, Liz Cheney.
Ron DeSantis is viewed favorably in Florida and elsewhere as the Happy Warrior. He has everything good about Trump, with none of the downsides. We already know that Trump is a bull in the DC China shop. So we need to see more of DeSantis, in my opinion.
We need to see how DeSantis performs when RNC Leadership, referring to the Senate Minority leader from Kentucky, butts into the narrative and starts threatening to hold back campaign funds if his plan is not followed. To me, it’s more important to define the fundamental differences between Trump and DeSantis.
Trump is the only one that will take it to BOTH political parties. The litmus test for DeSantis and his authenticity will be that DeSantis fights Republican “leadership” in favor of the MAGA and everyday American citizens like Trump.
I’ll vote for Donald Trump, no problem, if he’s the nominee. If he’s not the nominee, DeSantis is the better candidate. I like what DeSantis is doing, but notice how quickly the Democrats fight back against even the slightest pushback from our side. Biden is already working on ways to stop the Texas and Florida governors from doing perfectly legal actions.
Meanwhile, the utterly unconstitutional debt “forgiveness” of student loans has the GOP side talking about how they don’t have the standing to do anything. And the ban on ICE cars will affect every state because the auto companies will stop making ICE cars? No action from the GOP.
Governors and other Republicans: Look how many points you can score by pushing back as DeSantis does. By watching his actions and how he, DeSantis effortlessly exposes how weak, ineffectual, and generally useless the Democrats are. For that matter, most other Republican office holders genuinely are, too.
I knew that once Trump indicated anything you would be proven wrong. Nice attempt to cover.
DeSantis is his own man and is not suicidal. He can be tempted but he has a good compass.
The future is not written.
somehow people seem to believe if we don’t vote for rinos in the general, and we let the chips fall, everything will be better. We destroy the republican party in order to save it? If DC is filled with lefty demos running the house and senate, somehow that will be better than rinos?
want to see the country spiraling down the drain quick? if you don’t vote rino, and Trump wins, guess what? Impeachment won’t just be for show this time, cause they will have the senate and will legally remove your choice from office.
Is that what we are advocating here now?
sure seems like it.
I say we throw the bums out in the primary, and hold our friggin noses in the general. The weak knee republicans can be coerced by the American First leaders. That is how we claw our way out of this mess!
Spot on as usual. I for one will stick with POTUS. No more GOPe puppets for me. I either stay home and not vote or I get whom I want…TRUMP.
Whenever you see a politician going to Israel to bow down, you can be assured they are running for POTUS. In 2016 Rand Paul and Chris Christie both did. In 2019 RDS signed Florida a bill against anti-semitism in…wait for it…Israel.
He’s been measuring the drapes at the WH for 3 years…
https://www.flgov.com/2019/05/31/governor-ron-desantis-signs-anti-semitism-protections-bill-cs-cs-hb-741/
An Honest Man Tells It like It Is
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CilMIUlJ2oc/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
and
https://www.instagram.com/flgovrondesantis/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=5c402854-a4a7-41d6-82a2-ac9e7a0249af&ig_mid=4DAF890A-CA00-4153-A562-1D697AEB42C3
Disappointed, but not surprised. Turns out DeSantis is yet one more bought and paid for politician
Those contributions from billionaires, hedge funds, and others are who will control DeSantis. We must be very careful. Going against Trump would be career suicide. But there are those who just won’t listen.
I see the smear campaign/conspiracy theory based on conjecture, apophenia and post hoc fallacy still goes on, damaging Gov. DeSantis irreparably.
The media that planted the seed and generously fertilized and watered the pot now wait with baited breath for the predictable result. We are one mean tweet away from the harvest.
I don’t trust either. How can Trump deny the dangers of COVID transhuman injections? It’s impossible to do so honestly.
DeSantis has always been pro-Pharma which makes him dangerous. Florida has a law on the books DeSantis was asked to remove a section allowing the Health department to forcibly vaccinate the public in an emergency. AFAIK, he has done nothing to remove that language.
He’s playing a long game, winning over the unvaccinated. He could turn on everything that made him popular. Frankly, he scares me.
And Trump, what is wrong with him? Israeli evidence, even Harvard and Stanford say you are up to 97% more likely to die from a COVID shot than you are from “COVID-19.”
I’m only
Voting Trump. He has my unwavering support.
but see how much progress we are making? now desantis is, possibly, the jeb bush of the rinos. remember that the last three nominees of the republican party before trump were gw bush, mccain, and romney.
i’d call this an improvement.
DeSantis v Trump
DeSantis = RINORAT money
Trump = WeThePeople voters