The ‘cut to the chase‘ aspect of whether Ron DeSantis is planning to run for the GOP nomination in 2024 is made clear when you realize just how much money the Florida governor has amassed. A standing total exceeding $200 million.
That $200 million is not only a staggering amount far beyond the need for his virtually certain governor’s victory, but also the largest amount of campaign money ever assembled by a governor in the history of politics {citation}. Meg Whitman, California ($176 million), and Jay Pritzker, Illinois ($176 million), were both multi-millionaires and funded the majority of their war chest. Almost all (96%) of DeSantis’ money is coming from multinational corporations, hedge funds, Wall Street firms and billionaires {citation}.
For those who are unfamiliar with the strategies of political funding, there is a timing that also highlights the intent. A conspicuously aligned timing that coincides with the Trump raid on Mar-a-Lago. Campaign finance reports are required and filled out quarterly. DeSantis had a massive war chest assembled through August 5th.
That finance revelation was immediately before the August 8th raid, before the week in the bunker, and before DeSantis reemerged August 14th with a new national branding team and communication change.
DeSantis took in even more billionaire donor checks with the national kick-off.
Everybody familiar with politics knows what that level of preparation and strategy means. DeSantis wasn’t amassing money of that scale, and simultaneously launching a new national branding campaign, for a state reelection bid. He was/is preparing for a 2024 presidential run. The only question was whether DeSantis had direct knowledge of the August 8th raid on Trump in advance, or whether he was just told not to ask questions and follow the advice of his new GOPe team. The latter is more likely.
That said, the best laid plans of mice and men were disrupted by the MAGA response to the Trump raid. As noted in the article shared by President Trump today, the professional republican donor class had -not accidentally- done a great job using their piranhas to nibble away at Trump’s support prior to the August 8th raid. However, the raid rallied the base of MAGA back to defend Donald Trump.
By the time DeSantis came out of his pre-planned bunker phase (Aug 8th through Aug 14th) the support for Donald Trump had surged again. The professionally republican handlers launched the national DeSantis campaign into indefatigable pro-Trump headwinds. DeSantis Inc stuck to the plan, but the benefit they anticipated was not there.
Unfortunately for DeSantis there’s no good way to retreat from the 2024 strategy his handlers and donors have mapped out. They have pushed him ‘all-in.’ I don’t think it’s possible for DeSantis Inc to back-down after accepting all that GOPe money, unless there is a way for them to return or redirect it.
The article President Trump shared today is a good contextual article describing the accuracy of the Trump -v- DeSantis landscape as it existed on August 29th, the date it was written.
One of the citations in the article points to John Thomas who was prepared with a pro-DeSantis PAC if the republican plan against Trump had succeeded.
As noted, the plan didn’t succeed, and with the outcome of the fulcrum event, the Mar-a-Lago raid, not having the desired effect, Thomas has now abandoned the idea of using the PAC to advance DeSantis.
(Business Insider) – […] But at least one GOP operative — John Thomas, founder and president of the political advertising and strategy group Thomas Partners Strategies — thinks it’s better for DeSantis to wait than to try to challenge Trump in 2024.
“I wouldn’t advise him to go head to head with Trump,” Thomas told Insider. “It’s not gonna go well for DeSantis.”
Until recently, Thomas was independently readying a political action committee to support DeSantis running for president.
But now he predicts DeSantis would be unsuccessful if he tried to challenge Trump. If DeSantis were to run, he said, he wouldn’t have to just compete with Trump’s name recognition and donor network. DeSantis would also risk seeing what would happen if Trump’s followers suddenly viewed him as anti-Trump.
Right now, DeSantis is seen as not just pro-Trump but as being Trump 2.0, Thomas said. To run against Trump, he said, DeSantis would have to convince Trump’s core electorate to break away from him.
“Right now he can have his cake and eat it too,” he said. “He can be Trumpy and supportive. But he would have to argue that he’s better, or Trump is bad. And that is a fault line that is probably a bridge too far for the Republican electorate in 2024.” (read more)
DeSantis cannot beat Trump in a head-to-head primary battle. DeSantis will need to wait his turn, if PDJT decides to run in 2024.
I agree, Trump in 2024 to fix things, again, and make the big moves. DeSantis in 28’ and 32’ to go MAGA-lite and keep things going.
To all the naysayers about DeSantis as the 28 and 32 POTUS: would you rather have Harris or Abrams??
do you come up with these Faustian choices on your own or do you need help?
needs help
There are millions people named Harris and Abrams, as far as I can tell, so taking that stab at it was probably well calculated, don’t you know?
No, I’d rather have Kari Lake, assuming she governs as she has campaigned. DeSantis will be owned and should be a nonstarter.
I was originally pro DeSantis and have slowly soured on him due to his silence on the raid & all the big donor money. If he went against Trump there is NO way I would vote for him. I have held my nose and voted Republican but that is a bridge too far. I don’t care if DeSantis was running against heels up harris. DeSantis wait your turn and you will have most Trump supporters votes.
after his traitor actions against the man who brought him to the dance
I will never vote for him
Furthermore, Horses that bolt at the gate prematurely are not then great bets for Win, Place, Or Show – after that Big Spook.
A classic statement – well done.
MJ: “I was originally pro DeSantis and have slowly soured on him “. With a mere half a dozen articles Sundance has convinced us that DeSantis is not the man MAGA wants. With Sundance’s first one or two articles about DeSantis’ new packaging, we Treepers “raised Cain”. We did not want to believe what Sundance was writing. Now look at the majority of our opinions…..in less than a month! Our quick enlightenment by Sundance only shows how the ugly vitriol directed at Trump 24/7 day after day, month after month, year after year heard and read on MSM has so many people against our Orange Man. Look at how easily the ship of public opinion can be steered. Additionally when there are strong winds of censorship at MSM back, propaganda runs swiftly & deeply. Thank goodness for Sundance and his facts.
Exactly correct Mj
Desantis has shown his colors, and they smak of another bought and paid for politician.
No
He’s dirtied himself
Correct. Even worse, despite governing Florida as more of an independent (than pro-Globalist) he’s now dirtied himself with GOPe/Oligarchy/Ruling Class money, the stench from which won’t easily wash off.
And to that, contrast Genreal Don Bolduc, who has pledged not to take big donor $$.
And with all the attached donor strings he can’t even be trusted to be MAGA, much less MAGA-lite.
He Has done that, and without any help.
And he showed us his Judgement.
And done THAT, without remorse.
“…DeSantis in 28’ and 32’ to go MAGA-lite and keep things going….”
Let me say Nay!
DeSantis 2028 – 2032 would NOT keep things going, but it would be the start of unraveling everything President Trump will have accomplished!
Kari Lake – right now at least – would be a much better choice for the future. She will have good experience from years as governor to bring to the White House.
Or nominate anyone else who has NOT been tainted by $200 Million of RINO money!
Other candidates for the future might emerge in the coming years.
Bingo.
Kari Lake has that presidential vibe. DeSantis has been good for Florida – but honestly, there is something missing in him. I hope Kari does decide to run at some point. She would have my vote.
Kari Lake and Blake Masters let DeSantis come toot their (Trump) horn at that RALLY, in which he brought RINO PAC money to help sponsor that rally he took Center Stage for, to try to take RESPONSIBILITY for Kari’s and Blake’s Victories in Az.
Those two are definitely on my WATCH (as in “BEWARE, Move with CAUTION) List, in their own rights.
I couldn’t disagree more over your BEWARE comment about Kari Lake. Sheis going to be a great governor for Arizona. Thank God ! We need her!
As I believe in almost NO ONE politician to actually be trustworthy to follow or be a running mate with President Trump, I do agree with Kari Lake being a future leader that we will need! She seems to be of the same cloth that has built MAGA to what it is today. I do pray so!
She has the major credential: She loudly and proudly declares that 2020 was stolen.
For 2028 I would take Kari Lake over DeSantis
No. No. No. To ALL of the Above.
Thank you very much!
Sundance has educated me as to who DeSantis is.
I don’t care when he runs because I’m not going to vote for him for president…. EVER.
Haven’t we leaned yet what happens when someone sold their soul to big donor money? Fancy talk with no follow thru action.
He’s doing all this grandstanding with his actions right now thinking that he’s building his base.
In my mind, the Republicans and RNC have a surprise coming and it won’t go the way they think it will.
They obviously learned nothing from Jeb Bush.
THIS 👆👆👆👆right here.
Unless someone comes along, all on the horizon are the same.
we republicans need to learn loyalty
true MAGA supporters should already understand it
It is our Republican choices, presented by the RNC, that need to be loyal to our conservative principals. Otherwise voting is nothing more than a simulation.
Republican choices, presented by the RNC (by default) are adverse to our conservative principals.
The RNC is not unlike a private corporation, focused completely on the furtherance of said corporations objectives.
“Conservative Principles” do not warrant even a moments consideration.
We have to have defining factors. Tests of commitment with voting record and actions that define MAGA. Right now, MAGA and the U.S. population has had their eyes opened to the evil of big money/corporate takeover of this country on both sides of the isle.
We need more than to be Pro Trump. More than Pro Maga. Or anti Woke, anti Dem, anti GOPe. We need a knowledge base that is principle based, and that make it easy to identify the core of anyone as pro MAGA/Patriot in in committed way — not just a polished media image.
Sundance is making a huge mistake by shooting inside the MAGA tent, that’s why many hundreds of thousands of his former readers quit coming to his site over the last year or so.
Bannon buried the hatchet with Alex Jones, that’s the type of leadership we need within the movement. Not what Sundance is trying to do to Ron.
I agree it’s not in Ron’s interest to challenge Trump, but please Sundance…stop the bullshit demonization of Desantis. He’s done a lot more than you for Florida and the MaGA movement sir.
Well, we do know that SUNDANCE did not vote for TPP and desantis did vote for TPP.
Sundance helped get PDJT elected in 2016. Ron did not.
How do you know many hundreds of thousands quit reading here? Source please.
Ditto on the quit reading question…
And Ted Cruz WROTE TPP, Ted and Heidi wrote up the plan for The North American Union, together.
MEET HEIDI CRUZ – TED’S NEW WORLD ORDER WIFE
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/meet-heidi-cruz-teds-new-world-order-wife/
“He’s done a lot more than you for Florida and the MaGA movement sir.”…..
Nice try…..
Have you familiarized yourself with Sundance’s work on the Trayvon Martin case?
Or his work with hurricane/disaster response in FL?
Sorry, but Sundance is not shooting inside the MAGA tent. DeSantis is an imposter. In reality, he’s part and parcel of the RNC and the big club.
Perhaps a new model of CFR Newt Gingrich, CFR Bill Clinton’s favorite “Republican” enabler
Too bad Sundance doesn’t know you so he can follow your words of wisdom./s Supertalk….more like silly talk.
Shooting inside the tent is EXACTLY the thing to do. Ron HAS done a lot for Florida. Question is did he have 200 million of Corporate money to do it?
Does Ron sell his soul to acquire POTUS as“ it’s the way it’s done”? Or does he return coin to corporate benefactors. [no one give money for nothing].
What makes Trump so effective as well as dangerous, is he’s a self made man and doesn’t need corporate telling him what to do. Which means he works for the voters.
And Just Who has EVER done a RETURN on “THAT KIND” of money? !!! LOL!
One of those big donors is believed to be a CIA connected multi-millionaire
Alex Jones is not inside the ‘MAGA tent’ as will be seen in the upcoming (on Monday) The Highwire Part 2 interview Del Bigtree had with Alex Jones – the snippets shown at the end of Part 1 shows Alex Jones to be vehemently (vehemently) anti-Trump. And Bannon was fired by PDJT so not sure what an alignment between Bannon and Jones says about that shooting inside the MAGA tent metaphor.
Gov. DeSantis has been the right Governor for Florida at the right time. Not sure if he is, was, or will be ‘MAGA’, but it would be wise for him to continue honing his governing skills by focusing on governing Florida. President Donald Trump has earned the right to run in 2024 without any added splitter strategies by MAGA-lite folk.
the little squabble between desantis and hair do idiot on the west coast wants a debate mr hair spray..
lets see if desantis “mr hair spray” takes the debate challenge. 10 to 1 mr hair spray wimps out..
The Govenor of California debating the Govenor of Florida… why?
Does either seek office in the opposing state?
The obvious ploy is “Hair gel” being elevated into the “NATIONAL SCENE” as a legitimate “Contender” by way of riding the “Popular” coattails of “Hair spray”.
imho
Please provide the source for your…”that’s why many hundreds of thousands of his former readers quit coming to his site over the last year or so.”…
allegation.
TYIA
How do you know that “hundreds of thousands” quit coming to this site over the last year or so? Did you conduct a Frank Putz “focus group” ??? 🐮💩
I have seen hundreds of NEW posters as additions
Haven’t seen anything from desantis that would stop me from supporting him. If and when djt declares he’ll have my vote. If not desantis has my support and all the attacks here are putting us off. “Shooting inside the maga tent.”
well you need to educate yourself then …. evidently you are NOT well read
And doesn’t have that “Feel” for Good Hound Dogs, either.
Well emma, if desantis is nothing more than another paul ryan there is no need coming here. Conservative movement will be limited to fewer and fewer state and local control. And if as being said about desantis then florida is lost for conservatives already.
So what exactly did Sundance say that isn’t true?
That Ron is taking hundreds of millions in oligarch money?
That Ron has very few grass roots donors?
That Ron was virtually silent on the MAL raid?
That Ron has been running national ads? Why would a state governor do that?
Enlighten us, explain how Ron is now not a bought politician?
He didn’t shoot INSIDE the MAGA Tent. He was/is shooting at RINOS.
Everything that occasionally quacks like a duck… you know…
Sorry, supertalk.
I am not at the core, Pro Trump. I am pro MAGA.
But Trump defined MAGA for us currently, opened our eyes to the destruction of this country, and is the most equipped, skilled, courageous, with proven track record to advance the MAGA that he defined, and that we recognized as truth.
I liked DeSantis. But if desantis is building a war chest against Trump, he is building a war chest against MAGA, and not only is he just 2nd best, he becomes the enemy, no matter how good his image looks.
We thought the Bushes were our friends, and they betrayed us almost as much as Clinton and Obama. All the jobs going to mexico destroying the growth of rural American economy. That was Bushes.
If DeSantis is accepting GOPe money, my trust in him goes to the basement and he becomes an enemy unless he can come up with a good explanation.
GOPe can afford to let DeSantis look as tough as he wants, ship immigrants, give away the whole state of Florida. Thats peanuts compared to what they lose if MAGA wins.
I learned my lesson with the fake opposition republicans during the Clinton treasonous years. They did not impeach him for treason for a reason and the reason is they are fake opposition with a handful of exceptions until PDJT. Sundance is heading off their splitter strategy before it can get started. One of these big donors who just gave Desantis $10 million is believed to be a CIA connected. The same CIA who has been betraying America long before their coup against our President who I happen to believe is the best president we have had in a very long time.
IMO, John Thomas and his donors-club put the cart in front of the horse. They were not very intelligent to think, at this point in time, that DJT was not going to be the Repub nominee for POTUS. However, it looks like they just realized they “jumped the gun” and under-estimated both Trump and his multitudes of supporters. Well, at least they realize it now.
Or jumped the shark.
The lesser of two evils is still evil. I’m no longer willing to vote for evil.
A true MAGA person Will step up. You watch when the time is right.
People need to start living in the present.
There are plenty of candidates in the DC jail right now that I would prefer over DeSantis.
There is plenty of time for one or more to emerge.
Agree totally. Will never vote for DeSantis. He is Mitch’s guy now.
It is very clear that the Establishment Republicans have no use for MAGA Republicans. So if they are supporting and promoting DeSantis that is very concerning. This country needs a major reset/divorce from Establishment Politicians in order to survive.
I think we should all wait to cross that bridge IF and when we come to it.
IMHO we Deplorables / “Ultra MAGA” supporters should not give away our contingency strategies to the Enemies of America (DemoRATS, RINOs, Globalists, Deep State…etc.) ahead of time.
Eric Trump!
Desantis can’t buy his currently amazing image with a Billion dollar war chest. So No, I don’t think he’s going to run against the legitimate winner of 2020 who is the leader of the movement that put run in the Governors mansion.
Ron has HONOR 🎖. You can’t buy that back if you go after Trump like an idiot in the Republican Primary. He’s far more likely to get on the ticket as VP and bring along his warchest.
Everyone wishing Ron would run head to head against Trump ARE NEVER TRUMPERS, and or cowards that have been misinformed to believe Ron won’t be demonized as much or even more than Trump.
Ron already plans to run against Trump. The whole DeSantis calling for a debate with Newsome is another push to put him in front of people as the republican leader/MAGA candidate. Even Newsome said he thinks the debate is a good idea as they are both probably 2024 presidential candidates
Are you a self ordained prophet or what?
Supertalk sounds more like Jivetalk. He/she seems to be just trying to stir up division.
you must have misheard the news….Piglosi’s little flunky nephew called for the debate not RDS……RDS scoffed at the idea
You are right. My mistake/mis-statement. However, Doesn’t change my opinion. I think it’s a big show by the uniparty, putting their two chosen candidates out front. Even Dan Rather chimed in. To me it’s all a coordinated show.
Theater. The theater of the financiers is what David Bowie called it. Do people think one bad group of billionaires only backs one party and the good billionaires back the opposite? Team R vs Team D.
Both “parties” have done nothing about Immigration. Read the image and think where the immigration invasion is going to take us to in the not to distant future……………………
Sorry – I can’t take seriously whoever created this meme, wants us to believe he or she is a serious student of philosophy…
…and yet spells “clamor”as “clamber.”
George Hegel and Karl Marx: Prophets of Socialism
https://bnugent.org/george-hegel-and-karl-marx-prophets-of-socialism/
Oh caress yourself, my juicy
For my hands have all but withered
Oh dress yourself my urchin one, for I hear them on the stairs
Because of all we’ve seen, because of all we’ve said
We are the dead
DeSantis can never recover from his failure to condemn the Trump raid. His silence screams volumes. He can only hope that when he comes crawling back to MAGA voters, he’s allowed condiments with his super sized portion of humble pie.
He has never spoken about the election fraud, still has Dominion and ERIC. He is no Maga.
I want a TRUMP/DESANTIS ticket in 2024. Trump as president and Desantis as VP, then 4 years later, Desantis slides into the oval office for the following 8 years…and cleans house.
You don’t understand a thing that’s being addressed here, do you?
DeSantis will not ever be president. He’s not worthy of cleaning President Trumps shoes.
He sold his soul for a dollar bill and has zero balance now in the bank of integrity.
I do not want that ticket. First, I do not think it will happen. Second, Trump needs someone who is 100% MAGA and has no ties to GOPe. He’s been betrayed enough. There are other people in the field that Trump can consider. It is probably better if it isn’t another alpha male. Plus, they are both from Florida and can’t both be on the ticket legally.
I really think Ron needs to remain governor and work on his international connections and platform. He’s a great governor. He might not be a great POTUS.
DeSantis tries to CROW like an Alpha Male, but he ain’t pulling off the “DISGUISE”.
Makes me think of Daffy Duck wearing a rabbit suit with Big Ears – and his own Duck Bill sticking out of the Face Hole.
But The Abominable Snowman loves Daffy anyway. And Spanks him.
I understand your attempt to compromise, but IMHO President Trump already had one disloyal VP (Pence) who caused serious harm to the Trump Administration, first with his deliberate undermining of General Michael T. Flynn and second with his deliberate failure to expose the two Covid frauds- Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx – for their lies and disinformation.
DeSantis has shown better governing skills and more testicular fortitude than Pence, but by accepting tainted money from globalist billionaires, DeSantis has failed to recognize the existential need for and value of President Trump’s take-no-prisoners attitude towards cleaning the Swamp and enacting a long list of MAGA policies.
evidently you are NOT reading the important information being sourced. SAD
NO!
From Texas!
I smell Skunk. DeSantis snuggling with McConnell and his Chi Sweetie.
DeSantis will need to wait his turn, if PDJT decides to run in 2024.
Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, Susan Rice and BHO are very busy lining up the DOJ (and DC grand jury) which will issue an indictment of Trump any time now.
Of course, the idea is not to merely seriously impede or prevent Trump from running, but to spark some incident (or a false flag event) that allows Xiden & Co. to call for martial law and suspend November elections.
DeSantis not only needs to worry about getting smacked down in a head-to-head run against Trump, he needs to worry about staying out of the line-of-site of the DC junta.
They aren’t taking prisoners…..and we aren’t voting ourselves out of this.
He’s running 100%. Book it.
DeSantis would be smart to stay aligned with MAGA and ride his coattails. Apparently he can’t be VP bc they both reside in Florida. Even though Obama could when he was born in Kenya.
Darren Beattie recently described the DeSantis paradox – if he does actually challeng the system as Trump did, then he will face the same forces that are still trying so hard to bring down Trump, at which point he will be no longer be viewed as the acceptable alternative to Trump by Wall Street and the billionaires.
Those who support DeSantis are Republicans who want to avoid the pain of truly challenging our corrupt governance. But to actually save the republic, the regime must be challenged, and the pain is therefore unavoidable.
those who are supporting RDS consider him as manageable whereas PDJT is his own man and will do what is best for AMERICA and her people….this is unsatisfactory for those wishing to profit off her demise
Could RDS turn out to be another Pence?
THAT is exactly what I think!!
I don’t think so. Pence was a run of the mill Governor who for a reason I can’t fathom (although I have my suspicions), was “chosen” to be DJT’s running mate.
‘DeSantis, on the other hand, was personally endorsed by Trump for Gov. And then as Gov, he has actually performed really well as a Conservative for his State.
IMO, DeSantis does not want to run against Trump and will not, if Trump is on the ticket. It’s the “establishment” that is pushing this nonsense.
the WI troika (Ryan-Preibus-Walker) made the decision that VP Traitor was a safe choice behind the throne to manage PDJT and if needed a successor were he needed to be taken out
Desantis was endorsed by PDJT for Governor. Previously.
However, he was not endorsed for Governor this time around.
Things that make you go hmmm…. 🧐
https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump
They will try to inject a judas as VP.
It is my hope and prayer President Trump chooses a
MAGA “Wolverine” which the enemy will fear more dangerous than President Trump.
Add a MAGA “Wolverine” as Speaker of the House, paired with an Attorney General akin to the neighborhood “Junk Yard Dog”, and the enemies “Line of Succession” and relevance vanishes.
Wow – your calls for Sundance to leave DeSantis alone so he can get reelected FL Gov has now come to open Trump hostility.
It seems the stalwart DeSantis supporters are possibly NeverTrump.
Trump had to deal with the RINOS in Congress. I think he did the best he could since they threw as many roadblocks in his way as they could. I think they’re worse than the rats. Just look at that lunatic Lindsey Graham giving the rats a BIG talking point at the worst time. Not sure there is a real patriot in the McConnell wing of the GOP.
Those decisions turned out to be blessings in disguise. Without them, the voters would still be living in darkness. Everything in life has a reason.
Low unemployment, rising wages,rising 401k, energy independence, no new wars, peace in the middle east, N Korea under control, countries forced to pay their fair share, border more secure ……. Those bad decisions ?
not so much managing but he was given LOTS of bad advice….as a novice in DC they used his inexperience to their advantage….it did not help PDJT was of the attitude to heal all wounds and work together for the better of the nation not completely understanding the depth of their disloyalty to the nation
I do not think that was a mistake on PDJT’s part. I think it was wise. He knew he was among traitors. Working with them, while waiting for them to reveal themselves was a wise decision. His desired appointments were mostly held hostage by McConnell. Now, we can see why that traitor did what he did to gum up the conservative agenda.
Except pain is already unavoidable…
Darren Beattie said the pain box is inevitable for anyone challenging the system. Very few are willing to put themselves into the pain box.
Trump is really the only one nationally.
Those billionaires and Wall Street have already bought DeSantis.
That is the glaring problem that the DeSantis people will have trouble overcoming.
Pres Trump is his own man, our Man.
DeSantis is bought and sold by the RNC and we know it.
Too many of us know it and can never unknow it.
The next elections will be about this.
We The People vs The Big Club.
Well now I like this because now maybe we can start really looking for the person to run after Trump.
Once you’re bought you can not come back or at least we have to make sure he doesn’t come back on the presidential run or we’ll continue to be run by the rich mafia.
Yes, Trump is learning a lot about traitors but one thing Trump does not do is run from them.
Nope, he takes them on full steam. He just keeps on trucking.
Oh, there would be faux negative reporting, much sighing and groveling
but, trust me, the uniparty leftists would be tickled to have DeSantis run
they know he is only a MAGA pretender
BTW if a democrat in republican clothing is a rino
what is a faux MAGA candidate called?
A Magat
A Maggot. There FIFY
So true on the penultimate sentence. Even most readers that come here don’t internalize the messages sundance teaches.
For too long republicans have been trained by talk radio to be bitchy and mouthy whiners. The knowledge base is a mile wide but a millimeter deep.
Sundances’ analyses are 1/4 mile wide and 2 miles deep. You really have to challenge your own belief system to understand MAGA and Trump/
Nonsense. The jury is out on DeSantis and there are plenty of folks like me who will not vote DeSantis if he is as posited.
There are also a larger number of folks than you think who tired of six years of BS excuses about DJT’s complete failure to build a team and orchestrate a strategy that undermined the power base of the Deep State and the RINO plutocracy.
Here’s your problem: on what basis should anyone accept that a second DJT Presidency will be any different?
If he is the candidate going forward I will vote for DJT. I will expect the same results as the first term.
By the time Donald J. Trump walks through the Front Door of the Presidential House, the WORLD will be aware – FULLY – that things – EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY LITTLE THING about it will be DIFFERENT and NEW, and GOOD, and resting on a Good Foundation – a Sure Foundation, Once Again!
And there will be No Doubt.
President Trump endorsed Kari Lake for Gov in AZ. If you support PT then why are saying , in a previous post today, that we should “BEWARE ” of Kari Lake. It makes no sense. In for a penny in for a pound. This isn’t a game.
“There’s no getting around the pain box. If you’re challenging the Regime, you are going to face the storm.”
— Darren Beattie
Considering the current regime to be a storm, then they can as easily and as quickly be cut down by their own whirlwind creation, IMO. I like to see the possibility of it that way.
Bring the war chest as a VP running mate.
READ the Constitution…..some people…..jeez…..hard enough to win with all the Dimm/commie/GOPe cheating now the braintrust wants to sacrifice FL’s 29 EC votes so we could have MAGA-(maybe) MAGA ticket from the SAME state
Can’t be from same state.
They can but the electors could only give their votes to either the VP or President, not both. In a close election, you could have the VP or the President getting over the 270 threshold and the other one below it.
READ Article II or 12th Amendment….if they are from the same state they CANNOT cast ballots for them
“There are many misconceptions about the rules of a president choosing their running mate. There’s no law or regulation against a president and vice president of the United States being from the same state.
The reason why some people mistakenly believe such a prohibition exists comes down to a particular aspect of the Electoral College system laid out in Article II of the U.S. Constitution.
Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”
Under the original system, electors did not distinguish between candidates for the nation’s top two offices; the candidate with the most votes became president, while the runner-up became Vice President.
The 12th Amendment, adopted in 1804 after two chaotic elections, mandated that electors cast separate ballots for president and vice president.
However, the rule preventing an elector from voting for two people from his home state remained in effect under the new system.”
https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state
YES…..they can be….you just cannot then get the Electoral College votes from that state if they are……READ THE CONSTITUTION
PDJT’s home of record is FLORIDA……RDS’ home of record is FLORIDA….does anything here look similar?
What I’ve been told is, yes they can be from the same State. However, it would cost them an “electoral vote.”
as I have said READ the Constitution…..they forfeit their home state’s EC votes as I have said several times on just THIS thread
Both the 12th amendment and Article 2 are confusing. At the least, it appears some electoral votes would be sacrificed. I could be reading them incorrectly. I appreciate any and all knowledgeable explanations to clear up this matter.
the cited sourcing from the Constitution tells the elector to vote for the candidates IF they are not from the same state…. which would mean IF they are then they cannot….keep in mind the 12th Amendment is a newer creation ratified pre-Civil War
No! We have already had a major disappointment with Pence. If DS has already been bought, how can he be trusted.
You bring g up an interesting point. Who would President Trump select as his running mate?
Hopefully someone trustworthy this time.
You could say that about his entire cabinet.
Please read (or reread) the Sundance article and come back to amend your assinine comment. Applies to several more as well.
The unavoidable implication is that the Swamp Dwellers who are funding DeSantis are planning to kneecap the true and actual President on behalf of their InVestment.
That has been my thought. They thought the MarALago raid would damage Trump’s chances. Instead, it is backfiring gloriously.
They no doubt have other plans to take Trump out. Pray that they all fail.
And the FUNDEE is more than willing to have them do it in his behalf.
Yes–that’s the next implication.
What if Trump and DeSantis both knew about the raid and are playing it; this maps out anti-maga corporations. Democrats aren’t the only masters of distraction…
What if they have been quietly coordinating or at least communicating? It would explain why the normally reactive DJT has yet to flatten DeSantis publicly.
Don’t bet the money in your sock on it.
That would be awesome.
Of course, The Don can destroy the chances of any other “Republican”selected by the convention merely by running as an independent.
200 million De Santis dollars down the drain.
DeSantis has to win thenGovernor’s seat again in Florida. He barely won last time partly if not mostly due to voter fraud. According to articles I have been seeing posted by some Treepers, Roger Stone, Lin Wood, and others, the voter fraud issues have not been completely cleaned up yet in Florida.
Also, Trump would crush DeSantis in 2024. Trump posts polls on TS all the time showing him blowing away all GOP hopefuls.
Bannon’s pollster says the same thing about Trump’s polling results.
Indeed, Florida has not dumped all Dominion machines, has not cleaned up Broward or West Palm Beach or Seminole (Orlando) counties, has not banned mail-in ballots and I do not think drop boxes have been banned either. I am 100% sure that there are many if not most counties where the voter registration lists are not clean. My county does not use Dominion and they have always been careful to match me to my address and registration. There are differences in how things are done between precincts though.
The only outcome when you run against Trump is an embarrassing azz whooping and 100 million Trump supporters who think your a tool of the State.
DeSantis can either be smart and wait for 2028 or go the way of Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush.
Exactly. He would turn himself into Little Narco overnight – looking like a fool and despised by MAGA voters.
Apparently he already has.
Certainly so in my book, just by letting it be know in the AZ Rally that he has accepted BEAUCOUPS of BOUQUETS of PAC CASH from his favorite RINOS.
Rino Ron? Let’s hope not…
I hope only FOR TRUTH! Whether I like it or not!
JUST THE TRUTH! Only the FACTS, Sir!
We’ve had KAJILLIONS of TONS of KNOWINGLY FALSE HOPE-SO’s for this past Century and a Half.
Let’s have DONE with that scurrilous NIGHTMARE of Pretense for a sorry excuse to recline at leisure while the House is burning down around our ears.
I opt for the VIGOROUS investigation – as Patrick Henry said, I WOULD RATHER KNOW THE TRUTH! AND BE ABLE TO PREPARE for it!
Let’s have DONE with “Hoping for the best” and passing the matches to our enemies, while turning Blind Eyes…
Shall we, now???
Sundance, your excellent analysis has illuminated yet another dimension in this grand fight, well before it was (or is) obvious. It’s very valuable for your readership and much appreciated.
Uh,
If Kari Lake turns out to be who and what
she -naturally- seems to be
DeSantis will be
-even-
smaller
than his standing
in Presidential Trump’s shadow
in the election
👉🏻after 2024.
“DeSantis took in even more billionaire donor checks with the national kick-off.”
Billionaire donor checks come with PUPPET STRINGS.
Trump didn’t need their checks nor the strings that come with them; which sets Trump apart from all others.
That is why he is so beloved.
The true MAGA folks can see right through this, Desantis. So, BEWARE what you do.
Indeed, many MAGA eyes are on DeSantis paying attention to every decision that does not follow conservative principles or MAGA.
BS.
DJT received 49% of his donations from PACs and 51% from so called small donors. He did not finance his campaign out of pocket.
BS? I don’t believe I saw the word “billionaire” in your reply. Who said Trump financed his campaign out of pocket?
“DJT received…51% from so called small donors.” Thanks for making my point and demonstrating that he is “beloved”.
Deep State and the DC Establishment won’t allow Trump back in the White House.
I hope he doesn’t run. He’s a great king-maker, but He could be a two time loser in 2024.
Everyone in DC is working overtime to stop him before he stops them.
He did not lose the last one, it was stolen.
DJT will NOT lose. Half the country is MAGA. Most of the other half is pissed off at Biden and will vote against any Democrat candidate. The establishment does not want him. But, they can not stop us, MAGA folks pushing our MAGA agenda.
The Establishment is learning even now, they are not NEARLY as “established” as they think themselves to be! LOL!
Donald Trump is the Anointed of the Lord.
Deep State and DC Establishment have nothing to say about it and they are in NO Position to rescue THEMSELVES, right now.
The Swamp has decided to sit in the Hot Middle of the Parted Red Sea and just Wait For It.
IT is crumbling, even NOW. Behold, the King of Kings HIMSELF is at the Door, even Now!
And Trump will follow Him,, whether as tightly as Moses did, or even as David did. But he IS making Fresh commitments to do the very best he can, in that regard, and needs Much Prayers for it.
God’s Hand is moving, and HE is gathering Speed, now.
HE It IS Who will take Special Care for Donald Trump, in this hour, even if, AS DARIUS (Daniel 6, where Darius deeply embarrassed himself before his new kingdom) still had things to learn, even after his own initial victories.
But GOD Was Able, then and HE Is Able, even now, as well.
If RDS challenges my president DJT he will not get my vote in 2024 or EVER.
His only chance is to run for VP.
No more GHW Bushes or Mike Pences as VP.
RDS should not even be considered as the VP. If he is true and honest, he will serve a FULL term as Gov in FL to continue his already popular policies there. He and Kari Lake have the ability to turn Governorships into what the Founders meant them to be. I pray they both get elected and do exactly that.
No. Not even that after these last couple of months. And 50 illegals don’t BEGIN to compensate for his blunders.
That ain’t nearly a drop in the bucket!!!
If Ron runs against Trump, he will join penis breath Pence on the judas bench in exile from MAGA world.
Albeit with a huge slush fund if Ron doesn’t blow most of it like Jeb!
DeSantis should already be exiled in the MAGA world.
Meant to, and did, respond to the post above this. My error. So sorry.
DeSantis’ shortest distance to the presidency is to become Trump’s VP in 2024. And that’s a nearly unbeatable ticket as far as I’m concerned.
AGAIN…….SAME state…..STUPID move…..READ the US Constitution
Its really not hard to change your state residency. Politicians (and full time RV’ers) do it all the time.
This does NOT mean that is what I want, just pointing out its really not that big of an impediment, if that’s your only reason. I believe the reasons are legion or at least a 192 million of them
Thank you for pointing this out. I’m so weary of seeing people here acting as if Trump changing his state residency is like Trump changing his nationality or citizenship.
Look at Hillary — she lived for years in Arkansas, yet after Bill left office in DC, they move to NY, and suddenly, she is a NY senator. (Actually, RFK sort of did the same thing, didn’t he?) Trump has already established residences in NY and NJ. Seems like it would be no big deal to make it official if the same state issue became a thing.
I won’t vote for a DeSantis Ticket, in TEXAS, and I tend to be consistently MAINSTREAM TEXAS, and not because I follow any herd. Just the way the votes flow, excluding Fraud.
Sundance was right…again….as usual.
SUNDANCE FOREVER
PDJT TRUMP 2024 OR BUST.
desantis your move.
Sundance for VP!
DeSantis is running for [reelection as] Governor of Florida. Is he going to then turn around and betray voters by running for President only a few months into a 4 year office?
.
Which should be obvious, especially if Ron does not request a Trump Rally in this election cycle . . .
Not if he is worth his salt.
Pretty sure that’s his and his donors plan. Wouldn’t be the first politician to be lulled by the fever-lust of power.
Yes, if he’s taken 200 million from hedge funds and billionaires. They aren’t spending that on a mere governor.
If Trump decided not to run, where will the MAGA vote shift towards? DeSantis? Makes sense, which is why the GOP is building him a war chest.
But what if Trump decides to run? I have a feeling that the GOP (and Democrats and the Deep State) knows Trump won’t be running in 2024. Or available to run one way or… another.
Here we go with ‘default ‘ candidate analysis….
Is DeSantis America First? NO.
He voted for TPP…not an economic nationalist.
Plus, he does not have the broad based coalition (made up of many races and economic classes) that Trump has, due to his economic policies.
TPP vote, the strings were being pulled, – “do it Ron and good things may follow” they whispered in his ear
Many MAGA people will never vote DeSantis, including myself and my husband. DeSantis is an illusion. He’s like Pence. You aren’t getting what you thought you were voting for….and there will always loses/deals/bad bargains/blame thrown agains the other side, etc…. The outcomes won’t be MAGA but there will be a lot of excuses. And there will be enough plausible deniability to allow Ron to keep some of his shine to placate most of the voters. He’s another Pence, Barr, Durham.
Not advocating… Just mentioning.
It seems that Mike Pompeo is considering a 2024 run.
Kind of an interesting thing to consider.
“Why?”, is the first thing I would ask, & “Who is/going to be backing Pompeos decision to run, with their $$ to help Pompeo in that run for US Prez.?”
Rhetorical questions above.
Just “mentioning”, what seems to be another “horse” in the “2024 race”.
Another one that is not needed. ( Unless their is more going on in the background that seems to be apparent.)
No.
He is a greedy phony. All DeSantis had to do is win the governor race in
Florida, then climb on board as President Trump’s VP candidate in two years.
But, no, he couldn’t wait so he took the money from President Trump’s
enemies. And if he didn’t know the rinos and their funding clowns are
not democrats disguised as republicans then he is dumb as a box of rocks.
I think we dodged a bullet with this one.
I really want to see Kari Lake be the real deal. She certainly appears to be.
Please God let it be true! I can see her as VP candidate and then eight years
as president. However, I will table my excitement and projections until
her actions prove her words.
oh, big goof! funding clowns are democrats disguised as republicans
tsssk tsssk Amjean….as much as you are here you should KNOW the US Constitution….read either Article II or the 12th Amendment
I agree , and I agree with Sundance that big GOPe sent the message ( pre ML raid ) “get ready big things happening that will change everything” to the DeS. Team – not unlike the weekend of Billy Bush So -called Pu—y tape and Paul the rat Ryan said on Thursday or Friday that “by Monday we may have a new nominee.” He was booed off a Wisconsin State Fair Stage that Sunday . I don’t know how PDJT could ever work with that rat after that …
What if DJT decides not to run or ends up unable to run? Who then? Seems like it makes sense to have a Plan B.
Default analysis 2.0- don’t worry there are a lot of B players ready to go in that case , Ron DeS will be part of herd then …
God Is Plan B.
And DeSantis is choosing RINO as his Plan B.
We need plan B and C and D. But the road is steep and the dangers great to be what PDJT is.
MAGA needs to get so strong, so pervasive, so thick among local, county, City, state, and national legislatures, Courts, and executive branches, the even without PDJT, the MAGA force is so strong no one will think of messing with the movement.
We must press the message locally. But first we have to define exactly what is MAGA
Money that could have been applied towards a MAGA/PDJT run, but instead is going to a competing “horse” in the “race”..
They chose a “different horse” to bet on in the 2024 Prez race rather than DJT.
Things that make “me” ( and others I would think) go , “Hmmmm.”
One last thing… RDS is accepting such $$ to go against DJT? or, is he accepting IF DjT does not run.
His(RDS) acceptance of such campaign contributions NOW, make me re-iterate an earlier statement I made.
I will NEVER vote for RDS for Prez.
Too much “baggage” by the wrong folks, is a big part of that decision I have made..
GO for it Floridians & retain him as your gubnor, but do not think he is the same caliber as the MAGA Prez…
GOD bless us all~!
(Edited to try to correct Syntax & spelling. I hope it worked.)
Low energy Jeb, tons of cash , big name recognition, backed by all the same people. And where is Jebby today?
Good news for today☺️🇺🇸🙏
ONLY.
TRUMP.
No MORE COMPROMISING!!
No More CAPITULATION!!
No More CONSENSUS!!
TRUMP
Jeb! raised nearly that much from the GOPe, if not more, in 2016.
And PDJT blew him off the field after the 3rd or 4th primary state. Please clap.
PDJT enjoys a 50+ point lead over everybody else in recent straw polling . Money can’t catch that large a lead.
DeSantis is not Jeb! But I don’t care how much DeSantis raises from the GOPe. PDJT will absolutely crush DeSantis in 24.
And if you don’t like the Jeb! example, go ask Mike Bloomberg.
That’s dirty Koch money. He’ll be their puppet if he wins.
He already IS! He took the money and has been SPENDING IT copiously!
Mostly on fundraising emails to me, I think. 😆
This guy Thomas, quoted above is a real GOPe operative/jerk . Says about DeS “ He can be Trumpy …..? What kind of word is that , Trumpy ? You mean be a fake, phony , fraud , hypocrite ? Just shows you they were looking for an opening… -BTW I hope these guys enjoy the rally tonight , I know I will .
DeSantis jumped Whole Hog straight into the RINO PAC Pocket. The matter is already settled. THEN made his own image on a Kari/Blake Poster the BIG CENTER, with them in the Small Print in the corner.
‘NUFF SAID.
Still way to early by about 9 months, when applications to be on State ballots for primaries are due, to say much.
However, in a scenario where Donal Trump enters the 2024 race, it is not even clear if DeSantis for VP is even a good thing or certain.
Just being DeSantis, activist Governor “who sees the big picture” and “supporter” for President Trump would actually be the best course. This keeps him out of the direct line of fire and President Trump as the crap magnet for 4-years. DeSantis emerges with only little or very minor damage for 2028.
Keep in mind before before he went full turn-coat and Judas, there were democrats and media slime during impeachments 1.0 and 2.0 who had VP Pence lined up for impeachment, after President Trump was evicted, as President Trump’s partner in crime and enabler. DeSantis would receive far more attention 2024 to 2028.
announcements for POTUS runs will be made shortly after the MTs if not the turn of the NY
Could be since the Republican Party is hell bent on keep President Trump on the side lines. The updated RNC rules will be in place and those applications do need to be filed early and with RNC permission.
that is the typical time frame….POTUS campaigns have turned into essentially 2 year “sprints” after the MTs are over
If President Donald John Trump isn’t the nominee for 2024, I’m either sitting this one out or voting for a third-party candidate…I have most of my liberal family who thought I was crazy in 2016 sold on voting for President Trump in 2024. I live in Florida and I approve of DeSantis not to mention his policies during our Chinese virus fiasco, but he needs another term as governor before going primetime into the majors…America(First) Hispanics for MAGA & Trump 2024!!!
RDS is MAGA-Lite at best….so much more he could have done in FL if he was truly guns blazing America First as he likes to portray himself…..his “big” moves are all calculated to give him national attention
And he needs to return any “dirty” money.
What is it with people that they can’t conceive that MAGA could provide all the cash necessary for them to run and win.
And do this without staining themselves with dirty money.
DeSantis said he will not run for President of The United States in 2024 IF President Trump was running…IF DeSantis does run, then he IS a Liar..Think jojo biden and what we are suffering with a LIAR in office!
Not only was Sundance right, but a lot you posting are missing the biggest point of all.
Doesn’t matter when he runs for POTUS, if ever.
HE TOOK MONEY FROM WALL STREET, MULTINATIONALS, and BILLIONAIRES (ie PRITZKER)!!!!
He is not nor never will be MAGA. PERIOD!
Bullseye 🎯 🎯
That and Governor Ron DeSantis earlier vote 🗳 as a Congressman for TPP.
Actions 🎬 don’t lie even when the script says to lie.
Plenty of true MAGA folks that’ll rise up and run when the time ⏲️ is right ✅️ 👍 😉.
EXACTLY SO! AMEN!
Fkmmmmm All
DJT is your Daddy and We The People approve this message! 👀
🙌🏼❤️🇺🇸❤️🙌🏼
Ps
Sundance there is NO Way that you haven’t read and approved this…
https://17sog.substack.com/p/the-presidents-army
WEF DeSantis needs to be put to the curb.
Doesn’t matter as PA, WI, MI will never vote for Mister Ivy League TPP supporter. DeSantis could not win the Whitehouse even if the Democrats didn’t cheat for once.
The guy is right. And from Trump’s Truth Social posts today, he’s running. Besides, DeSantis is so popular in Florida, I don’t think they’d want to lose him. We need strong Governors. I can’t wait to see what Kari Lake is going to do in Arizona.
My two cents.
Ron needs to stay in FL and serve his next term. Sick of people triggering special elections and FL doesn’t need another governor election two years after this one.
I’m very happy with DeSantis as my governor. I don’t think he’ll run if Trump runs. I think he might be preparing just in case Trump is somehow stopped from running. DeSantis should support Trump.
Rush Limbaugh was always correct, the only person to break my trust in Trump is Trump.
It’s as easy as that and DeSantis should take heed for his own sake.
DeSantis is a tyrant, albeit a republican tyrant. Many of his policies are authoritative against other members of the society that wouldn’t vote for him. That may please you but then don’t complain when a democrat uses the same techniques against you.
Trumps policies draw democrats, independents, never-voted, disenfranchised, etc. DeSantis can’t do that.
There is no way in f-ing hades that DeSantis can be Trump 2. MAGA is a philosophy of governance that is new to the modern world. MAGA dies when Trump leaves the stage.
🤔Can’t say for sure about your last sentence in your post 📫
✅️Interesting comments though about the distinct difference in Executive management comparisons between President Donald J Trump and Governor Ron DeSantis.
👉 I believe that you have accurately described their differences and it’s appreciated 👈
> DeSantis is a tyrant, albeit a republican tyrant. Many of his policies are authoritative against other members of the society that wouldn’t vote for him. That may please you but then don’t complain when a democrat uses the same techniques against you.
They’re ALREADY using tyrannical actions against you! Have you not witnessed all the FBI raids lately, not just of Trump, but of 50 of his supporters, of even Mike Lindell in Hardees?
You don’t get to pick the game, you don’t get to set the board, you don’t get to choose the hand you’re dealt, but you had damn sure better play the game according to the rules that are actually in force while you’re on the field. Failing to do so is voluntarily choosing to be a loser, and sacrificing everything for nothing.
Our founders didn’t pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor just so they could be pamphleteers. They actively broke the law, thwarted authority, became ungovernable, destroyed property, burned buildings, committed insurrection and treason, and got people killed.
If, at this point, you aren’t voting for someone who is going to hit back twice as hard, who will be a Republican tyrant, and will put the fear of God into the lawless assholes who’ve been running things for a long, long time now, then may your chains rest lightly upon your limbs and may God forget you were ever our countryman.
Democrats ALWAYS use those techniques. I am happy with DeSantis’ strong male leadership. Oh, and I’m not hispanic. I agree that DeSantis does not have as broad a reach as Trump. DeSantis could improve his reach.
MAGA will not die when Trump leaves the stage. Trump will have changed the stage before he leaves it. MAGA is not about Trump the man, it is about the policies. Those are conservative policies for the most part. Trump is just the most visible and effective embodiment of those policies.
Faint praise , but thanks ,
the Heavyweight Chanpion if the World is presently sidelined by Forces outside his control ( just like Ali ) however ( just like Ali ) the Peoples Champion will Fight for what was taken from him. The King Will Return.
DeSantis needs to prepare to fight off the many contenders to carry the torch after Trump in 2028 when he will only be 50 years old! The Best Way to do that is to become the Best Governor in America and he will have strong challengers just for that Title after AZ/PA/MI/NY all get great Governors!…maybe even MN/WI and ???
If DeSantis challenges the Heavyweight Champion of the World now, he will never recover the loss of admiration that simple humility would have retained.
So… just how Dark! Are those Dark Forces pushing DeSantis? as Howard Cosell would say, “we shall see what we shall see”
I wonder who the Dems want to see run?
DeSantis or Trump?
It could be that the timing of the raid on Mar A Lago was to force DeSantis to back off, to clear the field for Trump to run. The Dems might believe they can steal the election again.
Whereas DeSantis might be an easier swallow for many on the Left.
NOTE: Until DeSantis sent those people to Martha’s Vineyard?
Or, the raid might have been disconnected, in which case it could have been driven by a Clinton faction more concern about the past ( what does He have on us? ) than ’24.
In any event, DeSantis will destroy his career if he runs against Trump.
NOTE: Why do my post require moderation? “Awaiting for approval “…
First time comments require moderation for a few times.
“First time”?
Hmm… I’ve been here, posting and donating, for a few years now.
I did update my computer, I’m I being confused? “tonyE” != “TonyE” or something like that?
Tony…..mea culpa. I had put you on the moderation list a few days ago, and I have now removed you. I seem to recall some arguments on the Queen’s passing thread.
There were NOT my arguments, someone else made arguments. I made a statement about how the US Constitution freed us from the UK monarchy. NONE of my comments were arguments or disparaging to anyone, just an observation.
Are we getting touchy in the moderation here now?
We can take this private, if you wish.
I like DeSantis, but, what’s turning me off on him now is he’s taking BIG MONEY.
I’m sticking with President Trump if he runs. I hope he does.
Great article. How do you feel about a Trump/ Desantis ticket in 2024?
NO!!!!!
Desantis is doing a great job as Gov of FL. President Trump did better Job as President of the USA / World.
enough said..
There is nothing MAGA about multinational corporations, hedge funds, Wall Street firms and billionaires.
There is nothing MAGA about DeSantis. He doesn’t know anything about what MAGA MAIN STREET is about.
I have more of a Cold Anger for STUPID Conservatives who are dumb enough to be manipulated by Bush Republicans to even THINK that an Ivy League JAG lawyer would give a damn about the Middle Class.
Exactly 💯 💯
👉Hard to believe that so-called “Conservatives” can still be deceived after all these last 7 years Political Ruling Class have revealed about themselves(both parties in the Uniparty)plus ➕️ Sundance graduate level classes 👈.
AMEN!
If DeSantis is smart, he will buck trends and join Trump as his VP and have 4 years, then run in 2028 and have 8 years. 12 years is what we are going to need to right the ship and if they cannot see that or aren’t willing to go along with that train of thought because….EGO, then they are not worth our consideration and our worst suspicions will be confirmed……and we will have to hit it THAT MUCH HARDER to put DJT back in the White House!!!!
But if goes VP won’t Florida voters be disappointed ….
especially if they wish to go GOP for POTUS and their EC votes do NOT count as per the US Constitution since the candidates as from the SAME state…..many here do not read, do not care, or like to spread misinformation…..READ the Constitution Article II or 12th Amendment specifically
I think you need to give it a rest – if an issue , PDJT can easily change his legal residence to another state like NY / NJ , even Alaska , he is not chained to Florida residency in perpetuity …
why should PDJT change HIS residency so the GOPe Dark Horse RDS can run from the same state?
We will be left to suck mud, collectively.
NO!
THANK GOD it AIN’T DeSantis’ Decision to make!
Guess how many more overdose deaths Commiefornia had versus Florida for 2021? The answer is 930. Cali: 6198 Fla:5268. Not good. DeSantis had better secure our State borders with hard dope checkpoints before things really get out of hand. Mandatory Inspection drug interdiction points on I-10 would make a huge impact. If he cuts off the dope, the junkies will migrate.
Edit:https://drugabusestatistics.org/drug-overdose-deaths/
These million dollar donations are contracts, not a gifts.
$200M in a war chest for a state that Crist appears to be trying to lose says there are motives BEYOND the Governor’s mansion in Tallahassee
If Demmings loses to Rubio and Ron runs “hot foot”, Val will be our next Governor. She just put out a newer, slicker ad, saying Rubio is 100 percent on board with blocking victims of rape access to abortions, and because she had personally investigated so many sexual assaults(tough on crime, refund the police) she knew exactly what she was talking about or something, I am really not sure because President Trump took the stage and the ad was on TV in another room and I tuned it out.
Ron DeSantis is not dumb and he knows for damn sure he has no chance no matter what people think or say.
How do people know this whole “Friends of Ron” or get ready for Ron is nothing but a plan that includes PDJT ?
Because this ain’t our first all-night Varmint Hunt with the Hounds. And the FIRST THING we learned is to NOT SHOOT until we KNOW what we are aiming at, because Mama won’t like it if we shoot her Prize Milk Cow. And Papa won’t like it if we shoot His Prize Breeding Bull, neither.
How many of you guys preening on DeSantis are also preening on Ted Cruz, I’d like to know!
That Right Thar is what I want to know!
Not dumb, but don’t underestimate his ego. DeSantis wants the WH. He has zero loyalty to Trump MAGA base and will only back off running if we send a clear “NO” message.
I have gotten at least 3 texts this week asking if I would support a DeSantos run for president. I have no idea who they are from or if they are legit. Regardless, it does not matter. I will only support President Donald J Trump in 2024 even if I have to do a write in vote. Maybe a write in campaign led by the people should be pursued if the GOP will not allow him to lead them.
They lost me at … Almost all (96%) of DeSantis’ money is coming from multinational corporations, hedge funds, Wall Street firms and billionaires {citation}.
Can’t argue with that. But I’m still relieved that DeSantis is the governor of Florida.
I just can’t trust him on the National stage anymore, with all that blood money in his war chest. If the Wall Street corporations approve of DeSantis, then I certainly do not.
Of course, the Big Money could be betting on who *they* view as the lesser of the two evils.. but the association sure does tarnish DeSantis’ luster, in any case.
As a solid MAGA ’til death do us part Trump supporter, I want to continue to cheer for both Trump and DeSantis, and that means that DeSantis had better wait not challenge Trump in ’24.
My only question is if Ron was OK with this in the first place, how would I trust him to do the right thing if he were to assume the mantle he did not create and was willing to toss aside like any other minor roadblock to his or his master’s ideology.
I do not want to go back and just once more give up to the criminal cartel of politicians, federalists, and their masters the usurped powers of authority which were never legally theirs.
I would not be willing to back someone so weak that their concept of representation is only for their master class and not the people/citizens that are the rightful rulers/powers/leaders/employees of these lowly public SERVANTS.
Well, DeSantis has shown us his skunk stripes by playing footsie courting his donors fir a run against Trump.
.