A solid dive by Law.Com and Daily Business Review into the background of who is financing Donald Trump versus who is financing Ron DeSantis should help to clarify the nature of the difference between them.
President Trump is funded primarily from massive amounts of small contributions from small donors, the MAGA base.
Governor Ron DeSantis is funded primarily by a small group of exclusive Wall Street corporations, billionaires and hedge fund managers, and almost no small donors.
Essentially, if you are thinking about MAGA populism -vs- corporate republicanism; well, there’s the issue in easiest to understand data form.
Additionally, the new managers of DeSantis have recently noticed the vulnerability and hired firms to try and stimulate small donor amounts in an effort to avoid the jaw dropping difference in average donation. A strategy deployed by Jeb Bush in 2015. Pay attention to the names giving large donations to DeSantis and you will see: (a) where the economic policy distinction comes from; and (b) where the RDS branding and consulting image is coming from.
Business Daily Review – Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has raised more money than Donald Trump since the former president left office, relying on deep-pocketed donors rather than the small-dollar contributors he’ll need if he seeks the White House in 2024.
DeSantis … has amassed $142 million from the start of 2021 through Aug. 5 this year from donors such as the hedge fund billionaires Ken Griffin and Paul Tudor Jones. That tops the $136 million Trump collected over a slightly shorter period.
Unlike Trump, who relies largely on a network of small-dollar donors to fund his postpresidential political operations, DeSantis has raised the bulk of his money from a small number of wealthy donors writing him giant checks. That gives him plenty of money for his reelection effort in Florida, where laws allow unlimited contributions.
But it also raises doubts about the level of grassroots support for DeSantis and suggests he’ll have to widen his fundraising base for any presidential bid because federal rules limit direct contributions to candidates to just $2,900 per donor.
About 500 donors have given $50,000 or more to Friends of Ron DeSantis, his political action committee which under Florida law can accept donations in unlimited amounts, accounting for $88 million of his fundraising haul. His big donors come from finance and real estate, health care and construction and a wide range of other businesses, a Bloomberg analysis of Florida campaign finance filings shows.
By contrast, donors who made contributions of less than $200 accounted for $8 million, or just 6%, of his haul. Unlike Trump, who’s raised $74 million or 54% of his total from January 2021 through June 30 from small-dollar donors, DeSantis doesn’t send multiple, daily fundraising pitches to supporters. Recently his campaign went a month without sending a text message to potential donors who signed up to receive them.
His top 500 donors include 10 billionaires, including Citadel’s Griffin, who moved his hedge fund’s headquarters to Miami from Chicago 14 months after giving $5 million. Other contributors include Tudor Jones, the chief executive officer of Tudor Investment Corp., Home Depot Inc. co-founder Bernard Marcus and Thomas Peterffy, the chairman of Interactive Brokers Inc. (read more)
Ron DeSantis has done a great job in Florida, mostly on social impact issues. However, on a national policy level, specifically on a presidential level for 2024, the donor influence becomes troubling.
Issues around school choice, school boards, woke policy and social issues in general are easier to handle for voters at a local level. City, county and state representatives, and the elections they come from, are the people and places where voters can make a substantive difference in their own outcome.
As a parent or individual you have the ability to fight back against social and ideological issues at a city, county and state level. However, when it comes to issues of national economics, international trade policy and national energy policy, those battles happen at the federal level. That’s where the President of the United States has a major influence.
As examples, the price of gasoline and energy are influenced by the president through regulatory policy. Similarly, international trade agreements, economic policy and monetary policy, have consequences for domestic investment, economic growth, jobs, employment, wage growth and expanded domestic wealth.
Simply put, the president has a strong impact on the nation, and the people within it, from an economic perspective.
All modern republicans are incapable of executing a policy that is pro-U.S. worker, because every modern republican is a beneficiary of Wall Street, hedge funds and multinational corporate contributions; exactly like those outlined for Ron DeSantis. As a consequence, economic policy adverse to the interests of Wall Street, Banks, hedge funds and multinational corporations do not come from modern republican politicians.
This dynamic reflects the distinction that made Donald Trump unique.
Unlike traditional republicans, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders both agreed on the problem. Where they disagreed was the solution.
Donald Trump used domestic economic policy tools like trade tariffs and countervailing duties to change the corporate behavior of the multinationals. Bernie Sander’s approach is to regulate the corporations and force a behavior change.
Put another way, Bernie wants to change the economic referees, while Trump’s approach is to change the economic rules of the game and let the teams play it.
You might remember a large percentage of Bernie Sanders voters joined team Trump in 2016. That’s because both teams agreed on the problem within our national economic situation. The result was MAGA, a massive coalition of working-class voters, based on economics, that cuts through every social distinction of race, color, sex, orientation, etc. The issue that binds the MAGA voters together is economic policy.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is a good governor for Florida, and he should be reelected easily. However, do not fool yourself into believing the massive coalition of MAGA voters would ever transfer to a corporate republican. It will not. EVER.
When people ask me who should come in after Trump, my answer is simple…. Show me the economic nationalist.
If there isn’t another one,… well, what does that tell you about the Republican party?
Last point. Florida republicans have a major blind spot they keep ignoring and DeSantis is very lucky Charlie Crist doesn’t have the resources to exploit it.
Housing costs, rents and homeowners’ insurance in Florida have skyrocketed. In some places home insurance has tripled just this year; yes, tripled. Energy costs also increased massively in Florida, in many areas electricity rates have doubled. Water utility costs in Florida have consistently been the highest in the nation due to the nature of the infrastructure and rapid expansion of the population. Additionally, property tax costs -even with homestead protections- are a serious issue for lots of voters.
Put those economic issues, all being ignored by the governor’s office – as he campaigns around the country to raise his national profile, on top of high gasoline and food prices and DeSantis is very vulnerable on the way Floridians feel about their economic security.
Focusing on wokeism and social issues is an option when economic issues are not in crisis. However, focusing on social issues while ignoring the economic pain and crisis, and you find yourself looking detached. aloof and vulnerable to political attack….. Then again, a typical republican.
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Thank you Sundance. I was a little dubious about your DeSantis criticisms but as time has passed it has come to play out as you predicted. I still think DeSantis has his place to play but I am no longer looking for DeSantis 2028. I never was on the DeSantis 2024 train. President Trump brought us here and he has my absolute loyalty. Loyalty because he will do what is right and has proven so through past actions.
Trump has a couple serious blind spots of his own that cannot be shrugged off. And they are easily fixed if he so desires. First is his approach to health care. Rather than falling into the trap that Fauci, Gates and the CCP set for him on the wuflu, he could have ignored the fear mongers, belittled the NIH/CDC cabal and encouraged America to do what she does best and solve the problems at the local level. This single issue probably cost him the 2020 election. This I lay squarely at the feet of DJT.
And second, he must assemble a better, more loyal team and crush the resistance wherever they show themselves. I’m beginning to see a glimmer of that change in attitude, vis-à-vis his comments on Mitch McConnell. Mitch has done Trump dirty on numerous occasions, and yet Trump kept trying to make nice, even campaigning for the bastard. Talk only goes so far. Trump needs to find Mitch’s weak points and exploit the hell out of them.
I’m just your average abused conservative citizen, but if I can see these things, I’m sure there are many more like me out there.
Did you know that no news is also MSM koolaid? There’s more than one way to drink the MSM koolaid: by either printing fake news or failing to print the real news.
“…belittled the NIH/CDC cabal and encouraged America to do what she does best and solve the problems at the local level….”
Just because the MSM didn’t print it doesn’t mean it didn’t actually happen.
“Hatfill and Navarro sought to discredit other prominent health officials who spoke out against the use of hydroxychloroquine, including Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. The two discussed plans to get the Department of Justice and the Health and Human Services Department’s inspector general to conduct an investigation into Fauci and his email use. Hatfill, according to the report, pushed for Fauci’s removal throughout the fall, telling Navarro in September, “You really need to consider what is likely to happen over the next 2 months if this little idiot and his Covid treatment panel is not fired.” Two weeks later, Hatfill wrote that “[t]here will be a house cleaning after elections. [A] really good cleaning.”
They tried that angle, but apparently, there was no “expert” who was willing to go against Fauci.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/trump-white-house-exerted-pressure-on-fda-for-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-house-report-finds-00053428
Having daily televised briefings with Fauci and Birx definitely gave the impression they had President Trump’s full support.
Having listened to Dr McCullough in Joe Rogan talk about raising concerns to the white house task force in March, I’m sure he would have been willing if given a chance.
2020 was a disaster and left us worse off than when Trump took office.
“Having daily televised briefings with Fauci and Birx definitely gave the impression they had President Trump’s full support.”
That was the reason why the task force was created was to dilute Fauci’s influence: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-fauci.html
Are you a Pence supporter?
As soon as Trump realized that he was getting politically played by Fraudci and Jirx, he brought in Dr. Scott Atlas as his pandemic advisor. However, by that time the damage was done to the economy and the election was on the horizon.
Atlas is a radiologist, not a pandemic expert. But…Atlas was the only doctor willing to put his livelihood on the line and speak his mind. That took a lot of guts for Atlas. Unfortunately, nobody would listen to him.
and if the media doesn’t report the truth the lies stick
Are you saying Fauxi and Box of Brix are pandemic experts lol? Both are frauds, dangerous ones.
Hatfill and Navarro are undoubtedly the real deal and good guys in this story. However, the damage was mostly complete before either of them could do or say anything. And Operation Warp Speed simply added more fuel to the inferno.
None of us really knew what was going on at the time, but my instinct from the beginning was to distrust the government, especially once they started to knee jerk attack all of the potential therapeutics. That was when I decided that we were being conned, and that, come hell or high water, I was not taking their “vaccine”. To my knowledge, Trump has never admitted that he was wrong in supporting the jab, and it took him much too long to stop crowing about it.
I voted for Trump both times and will again, as he’s the best the nation has to offer right now. But I stand by the points I raised in my earlier post, and they will be critical to his re-election prospects, mark my words.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with coming up with a vaccine for a disease. Nothing at all. Why wouldn’t you crow about that accomplishment?
What you guys are failing to see here is, Fauci is Bush’s boy. This wasn’t a Democrat thing. This whole pandemic was created to take out Trump permanently, perpetrated by the UNIPARTY.
They were just waiting for Trump to make one single misstep, and he’d be going to prison forever. Trump may love you guys to death, but I doubt he’d want to spend his life in prison for you. Neither would I, if it was me. And neither would you.
If Trump had made one single statement about refusing to take the vaccines, they would have pinned every single Covid death at his doorstep, and they would have won that argument. And Trump would have spent his life in jail and been called a murderer.
So y’all can feel righteous indignation all you want, but the stakes were high. These guys ain’t playing. It’s like you guys are suddently shocked to find out that DC is really full of swamp creatures who will stop at nothing to preserve their power, even if it means killing you in the process.
Having watched just a portion of the Truth Summit, I can say with confidence that the only thing that cost President Trump the election was the rampant across the country election fraud. He received so many votes that they couldn’t flip enough with the machines and had to resort to imaginary votes. The cheating is the only thing that cost him 2020.
“This single issue probably cost him the 2020 election”.
He did not lose. Thus, you are called out as a fraud.
Yes, he is in need of a political philosophy not merely alley cat instincts. He likes a fight and that really isn’t going to get us far. As POTUS he spent like a drunken sailor. DeSantis as George Bush redux hasn’t shown any organized approach either except as the Establishment’s newly made man. Reagan had a philosophy but he acceded to the Establishment too often. Trump demonstrated that gets you nowhere fast. Where is Barry Goldwater when you need him?
I kept expecting the rough – and – tumble cutthroat businessman to come out but President Trump kept on trying to be reasonable with the Swampers.
I stopped contributing to DeSantis weeks ago.
My money goes to PDJT.
Yes, ONLY contribute directly to Trump!!!
Contributing to rnc, your money goes to the rino snakes aka dnc
How do I donate DIRECTLY to Trump without going through WINRED? Every time I plan to donate, I look at the bottom of the email and there is WINRED. Is there even a way?
Trump created WinRed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-24/trump-launches-winred-to-spread-small-dollar-success-down-ballot
Correct! Do not send money to the RNC, GOP or most of the RINO PACs out there who hate MAGA, America First and Trump. Send it directly to the Bigger Guy.
Changing the definition of vaccine as soon as bidens admin. started getting antsy about the side effects should tell everyone there was something below deck with the democrats plans.
Not to mention- OBiden Regime is the one who mandated it.
And hussein O’s regime in 2009 changed the definition of pandemic, too.
I believe it was Rush who called twitter a ‘sewer’. Sadly that is exactly where this thread has been heading.
Can people repent from their collective cranial rectum inversions long enough to even consider the probability that neither President Trump nor Governor DeSantis will officially enter the 2024 presidential contest ?
You want this mess cleaned up ? Look in the mirror. Stop acquiescing to tyranny. End the abusive relationship.
Trust God. Fear not.
I call it appropriately named.
Another economic nationalist is going to spring up spontaneously?
Who would that be?
I find it quite interesting that all of this movement comes shortly after newly minted Republican Musk says he could vote for DeSantis.
Elon Musk… the one who attended the 2016 Sea Island meeting on How To Stop Donald Trump.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_n_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d
Musk is not a good person. He’s no different than the other creepy left billionaires, and his personal life is just plain weird. As is the family he was born into.
Correct.
Don’t fall for the “musk is a good guy” trap.
We should cease worshipping Elon Musk;
he was made from our tax dollars.
Instead, we should be pissed.
^^^THIS^^^
The only thing admirable about him is his exposure of twitter. Completely 100% funded by the very people we need to rid in this cesspool.
1000 upvotes.
We could ALL be billionaires with tax payer money flowing in by millions. Musk took full advantage of free money (our money).
Joe Rogan too!
Sleazy scumbag.
I would also bet that President TRUMP’s August haul will be even more impressive thasn anything DeSantis could put up.
Pompeo is also running what does he and DeSantis know that we don’t know? Do they have deep state sources telling them President Trump won’t be in the mix or is the RNC club telling them President Trump won’t eligible to run in the Republican primaries? What is it? Just wondering?
That ploy is in order to split votes in a Primary.
yup. Was supposed to work in 2016…never anticipated the MAGA/Trump appeal
At this point we could be asking if all this 2024 posturing isn’t actually distracting from the primaries MAGA needs to win??
That’s what I think. The 2024 speculation Trump vs DeSantis has been popping up at various sites for most of this year. Early on both men pushed back on the “feud” and at the time DeSantis said he wouldn’t run in 2024 if Trump ran
Since that time various people have been given “scoops” or had whispers in their ears, from blogs to MSM outlets that perpetuate the whole thing.
It sure is reminiscent of the tea party splinter. It also keeps people focused on the shiny object of 2024 and not on the actual elections at hand.
LOOK at how many posted (rah, rah🎉🎉) in favor of DeSantis for VP and/or P
here at CTH in recent past!
-It was though Grandma made their favorite cookies!
I was happy to hear and see him, as governor,
-publicly-
taking the liars to task.
However,
It was all too obvious that he was
either
riding :
-the MAGA wave
and/or
-President Trump’s coat tail.
Therefore, some time to compare his tough- speak to his actions would be needed.
Pompeo and Hailey are neocon warmongers. They want US troops involved in every conflict on earth.
The size of the MAGA base also means that Trump doesn’t need to spend as much either.
Kari Lake would agree with that.
Also, can’t put a price tag on the Trump boat rallies in Florida!
Or the Miami “Vote for Trump” singing group
And all of the car rallies across the country!
Yes, economics was important to the original Trump coalition that got him elected.
But, just as important was Trump 2016’s focus on international/security/war issues.
Trump was clear: NO MORE STUPID WARS in the Middle East. Stop the invasion of illegals across the Mexican border. Get the USA out of NATO–make the Europeans pay for their own defense.
He also rejected the tainted millions of Shel Adelson. Adelson shoveled millions into the neocon midgets (exact clones of DeSantis) during the 2015-16 Republican primaries. As soon as Trump won the nomination, using his own money mostly, Adelson opened the cash spigot. Trump named Jared Kutchner his top foreign policy advisor. The rest is history. Trump continued talking the talk, but his walk was much different.
MAGA was/is about making AMERICA great. NOT about making the refuge country of dual citizen Americans great. Trump seems to realize today that he was played, to some extent, by Kushner and the neocons.
And that is the stark difference between DeSantis and Trump. DeSantis is a snuffling little piglet, sucking the teats of the neocon funding machine, dancing to their tune. They’re whispering in his ear, telling him that this time, he’s the chosen one. Trump sees neocon machine, does his best to out-maneuver, avoid and manage it.
All the “culture” and economic issues fade away once the neocon-bought candidate enters office. It’s war-war-war, Ukraine-Ukraine-Ukraine, Iran-Iran-Iran now and forever.
MAGA.
Jared Kushner was great on his dealings with the Middle East.
Jared Kushner was given a script and he followed it.
I never trusted Jared and Ivanka and never will.
I liked 45’s foreign policy – starting with the first foreign trip to Saudi Arabia & Israel, his stance on NATO, North Korea, China, speech at WEF in Davos, Japan/Abe, India, and others. Jared can’t take credit for all of this, like his work re: Mexico.
The Trotsyite Neocons were the main moles that undermined Buchanan’s MAFA runs in 92 & 96. They are war criminals responsible for the Iraq war, and tried to get us entangled against secular Syria who helped us after 9/11, and are fighting (CIA) Saudi sponsored terrorists from ISIS & the group they told us did 9/11 (used to launch the Iraq War) “Al-Qaeda” also known as “Al-CIA-Duh”
MAFA & MAGA are against wars that do not serve our interests. God bless our military service personnel, perhaps not the traitors at the top brass
All the nations on that 7 nation hitlist that war criminal General Clark stated State Dept creeps said were going to be bombed or invaded because of the watershed event treason/planned terrorism are all opponents of Sunni Wahabbi Saudi Arabia & its Petro dollar allies.
Secular Syria which is fighting ISIS & Al-Qaeda who we were told did 9/11, should be our allies. Orthodox Christian Russia has exterminated more real islamic terrorists than the US has, and I would put the Serbs second.
In terms anyone can understand…
Babe Ruth vs. Hank Aaron…sure Hank broke Babes record.
Look how many more games a season Hank played compared to Babe.
Some records do actually stand the test of time. I’ve been saying for months not to trust Jeb money and now the wallets open and look at that……all the same money behind “Low Energy Jeb”
Trillions at stake? How about ‘Life , Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”…… hint: our ruling class can no longer stand you, they don’t need you, and will trample you under foot the first chance they get.
Welcome to America 2022.
The “ruling class” wants us dead. Look at the fentanyl situation at the border. The demographuc hardest hit? Males, ages 18 to 44, caucasian.
Who’s sitting in the DC gulag? Who’s Ashli Babbitt? Dead Trump supporter.
Covid got rid of alot of seniors. Remember Zeke’s Whole Life Plan?
The millions of illegals coming here are our replacements.
DeSantis and his funders are not the solution.
There will be no change in this dynamic so long as there is a possibility that President Trump will run in the RNC Primary or go 3rd party, no matter how one feels about Governor DeSantis.
The real take away is that President Trump is still the king maker among Republican Voters and the GOPe Financial Masters still do not like President Trump.
How one feels about DeSanits is totally immaterial. We will not know anything about the relationship between these two men until Primaries begin, BY DESIGN.
President Trump knew he would always be the crap magnet, so he willingly continues in the role and rest of the RNC field will of course exploit the situation. Exactly whom is an enemy in President Trump’s eyes among the field still is not 100% known … It is a given: Cruz is still Lyin’ Ted, Rubio is still little Marco, Lindsey G is still Ms Lindsey, Lizzie Cheney is still Lizzie Borden, Niki Haley is still a want to be, Pence is still Judas, et al.
Good analysis of the current situation.
As I stated under an earlier Sundance article about DeSantis, the anti-Trump / pro-Deep State influencers and ROLCONs are now commenting here in significant numbers.
The anti-Trump / anti-MAGA desperation has become quite palpable.
Trump decreases their ROI on political spending.
I’ve noticed some “blame Trump” for covid vax lately. Negative data is being allowed to surface. Even on this site some blamers are surfacing. They know MAGA is a force to be reckoned with.
The video is conveniently unavailable, but that is exactly what Tucker Carlson covered last night. Very well too.
This one works:
https://rumble.com/v1hd20x-tucker-carlson-tonight-82522-fox-breaking-news-trump-august-25-2022.html
Oh sorry, this version is highly edited.
Thanks for this link. I just watched it. Edited, but still worth watching.
Robert Barnes has repeatedly said 45 should say that Pfizer lied to him, particularly with the current whisteblower suit. This focuses on pharma lying instead of lying Fauci, Brix, Pence.
Barnes needs to work the RICO Angle by PROVING Fauci, Birx ( monetary and CONFESSED Control of the Population ) and Possibly Pence ( political / Family Investments (? )) – HAD VESTED INTERESTS in Pushing the Pfizer narrative.
i BELIEVE that POTUS 45 could also been using the Snake Lyrics to have WARNED U.S. about the Machiavellian play that was going on ALL ALONG.
Follow the money.
Snakes on a stick.
they all lied
lying and data withholding should ‘undo’ the protection against tort lawsuits for side effects of the ‘vaccines’ such as death…
hanging for fraud and massive crimes against humanity should be the openers
claims against estate after
“Biden mandate.”
They can try, but the Biden administration mandated them for tens of millions of people if they wanted to keep their job and tried to force them on everyone via OSHA. They bought lots more and ok’d them for children down to 6 months old.
Biden also tried to say he’s the one who was responsible for the jabs.
Democrat politicians are still mandating them – see NY and DC.
On the GOP front, DeSantis on video recommended multiple times people get the jab.
All this will succeed in doing – and the GOPe may like this – is make people like Haley who never had to say anything about the clot shots the only viable candidates in the primary.
One of my contractors just told me he had Covid, he had mild flu symptoms for 4 days and he took Vitamin C, Zince, Quercetin, and Black seed Oil. He is vac free as well as his family and he was grateful that he now had Natural Immunity
2024: USA-POTUS Trump. FLA-GOV DeSantis. Period ! End of (D)-cheat divide and conquer scam. MAGA !
Looking back in time, what do you think about the Reagan-Bush ticket? Do you really think that was a great idea in retrospect?
Fewer people knew how the CIA operated back then and even prior. But we have a much better sense of them now.
We didn’t know Pence was compromised until after he went after Flynn. But we know DeSantis is compromised based on ALL of the evidence and there is a LOT.
In many cases good Presidents are somehow forced to have terrible/traitor VP’s. JFK/Johnson also comes to mind.
This article covers all the issues.
Hard-core MAGA, America First R’s have only one candidate – President Trump.
RDS is a great state governor, but not a MAGANOMICS presidential candidate.
Follow the money.
Well said!
Thank you, Sundance.
Too bad that Desantis has a price that he’s willing to sell out for. I go back to the source of our RINO vs MAGA problems. It boils down to money. How do we get the money out of politics?
I’m sure that some of the issues go back to the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act. If we had a media that had not been bought out, and was forced to be truthful and not spew propaganda, our problem would not be so huge.
I saw a little video clip (I think on Joe Dan Gorman’s Intellectual Froglegs) of a fellow saying President Trump should be prosecuted for all his criminal activity, but when asked what criminal activity, he couldn’t name one thing and said he wasn’t going to say anymore!
Unfortunately, that’s were we are. The brainwashed are following the corporate brand.
I still think that we MAGA should not purchase any of the products
or services from any corporation that contributes to the republican party rino
candidates
TRUMP FOR THE WIN!!!👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸
The “Top Run” Commercial was the rebranding of My Governor as the replacement “maverick” if you will, of the ‘Stablishment ala Songbird McCain. I wish he wasn’t galavanting around the Country endorsing folks President Trump already endorsed and cutting cutesy ads. He could be here busting his a$$ to triage the very real issues facing Floridians. He shoulda had a TPP patch on his bomber jacket.
I used to like the concept of a maverick but someone spoiled that for me. I gotta work on it maybe.
100%. Costs are skyrocking in this state and he is talking social issues…
Seen any Drug Zombies lately? I have.
Since President Trump hasn’t announced I haven’t sent any contributions for awhile.
If I wanted to add to the little guys contributions, just exactly where would I send it to avoid the RNC entirely?
Thanks.
Living in Florida, I can say unequivocally my utility costs have increased maybe 20%. Insurance rates have increased because 20 years ago the Florida legislature thought they could tell the insurance industry how to operate, causing most real P&C carriers to leave the state. The legislature funded new “low cost” carriers which are close to insolvency, thus mandating higher rates. The legislature is now working on a fix to the problem they created a few decades ago. Water has always been a problem in Florida which has no snow melt, and a rapidly growing population.
Utility costs are up across the nation due to Biden’s war on American energy.
Homeowners insurance has been an issue for decades here in Florida you are correct. The governor called a special session this past spring, but they still didn’t resolve things, but it is indeed the legislatures mess.
I see water as DeSantis’ Achilles heel, he campaigned hard on the water issue. The legislature doesn’t see things his way. He’s been unsuccessful in making the changes he wanted or building desalination plants.
Five simple words DeSantis can’t\won’t say:
The 2020 election was stolen.
DeSantis is not America First MAGA.
“electionS“. Plural.
House. Senate. Governorships. The presidency.
The very CONCEPT of ELECTIONS were stolen. And stolen from THE PEOPLE, not just politicians.
That is why it must be said out loud. Not “improprieties”. Not “shenanigans”.
The VERY BASIS OF AMERICAN SELF-GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE.
A Presidential Candidate in a uniform he wore proudly. What a novelty!
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That’s a JAG lawyer, note. And a bottom-rung newly-minted right-out-of-law-school-with-no-experience JAG. His “combat” was against bad clauses in contracts, helping out sailors whose creditors were illegally targeting them while deployed, and providing dpoa forms. Just saying.
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I remember Bob from other thread , said Ron was speaker of the Florida House before he ran for Governor – totally wrong as you know -is he Ron -bot ?
Nope. Clear evidence of being compromised by the swamp.
I’m going to request some data on the sources of these troll posts. I will discover if you are VPN or from some non-residential or non-mobile carrier network source. I will find you out.
Insert Liam Neeson quote here.
Btw , just to smile a bit , reading an article about Pearl Harbor Dec. 7 , 1941 air battles and 2 pilots, flying older type American fighters – Welch and Taylor – managed to down 3 or 4 Zeros and Val’s and damage a couple of others – you may remember their portrayals in movie Tora Tora Tora – Taylor was a technical advisor ( Welch a triple ace in WW2 – died in a test pilot crash in 1958 , working with Chuck Yeager on breaking sound barrier tests) Anyway Taylor who lived to age 85 in 2008 or so, said that the newer “Pearl Harbor” movie ( remember the hype and promos) with Ben Affleck and Josh Harnett roughly based on Welch and Taylor, was in his words “A Piece of Trash…”. Couldn’t agree more with a true American hero .
Sundance,
The best way to get rid of Ron DeSantis is the way we got rid of Mitt Romney.
Find Candy Crowley.
Set up a news conference with her as Moderator, and have Candy
cause DeSantis to reveal his brokenness, and thereby destroy himself.
😁
Except for the ninnies and trolls who post on social media,
MAGA voters are loyal and won’t fall for this crap.
The bottom line is that it is fascism, the alignment of
large corporations with government that is at the core
of the march towards the ruination of our freedoms in
this country.
And whomever they donate to is one of them.
I will make it simple. Would you vote for someone that
George Soros donates to? Its the same.
The basic premise of the MAGA or America First movement is, or al least should be, that what is in the best interest of the American People comes first. Not what is in the best interest of the government. Not what is in the best interest of political parties or politicians. Not what is in the best interests of corporations and organizations.
If doing what is truly in the best interests of the American People happens to be of some benefit to these others, okay. But it is NOT okay when used the other way around.
DeSantis is ‘MAGA’ on social issues but corporatist on economic issues and in favor of centralized government control on political issues.
“Charity begins at home” It has always bothered me to see Americans like Veterans living under bridges/homeless and the crooks in government which does what their billionaire puppet masters tell them to do, ignore them and throw billions of dollars away on illegal wars and projects that do not help the American people and are bankrupting our nation. Like the Ukraine lie now or the student loan/TARP bailout. Western “Democracies” are a criminal conspiracy against its peoples
DeSantis is running for election
President Donald Trump is not (yet)
that is the difference
Wrong. Neither has declared. Both are doing the same thing….endorsing, fund raising, speaking.
PT is fighting the Establishment Big Club, DeSantis is courting the Big Club Establishment.
That is the difference.
DeSantis isn’t CTH MAGA!!!
No, DeSantis is DEFINITELY running. Just not for the race you think he is.
DeSantis is currently campaigning for Governor.
In AZ and PA?
Ron’s zipper is open.
As Reagan said never an ill word to our brothers.
Where did that get him? They tried to kill him!
DeSantis has been great for Florida in a time when they needed him and he should keep it up…but he doesn’t seem presidential…He is kind of nasty and lacks the charm and sense of humor like Trump has.
Every politician knows what to say. That makes them all deceivers when they act differently. DeSantis’s actions aren’t obvious to many but they are to Sundance who knows what to look for…. and to us who the students of Sundance.
“You are what you eat.”
And you Be Who Funds You,
acting on their behalf.
I will take P45 any time-
he is funded by We the People,
puts Amricans first,
and doesn’t take a salary because he has earned
the task of working foe an honest living.
And the Alinsky attacks of Uniparty hacks & their Democrat comrades, and the lies and gaslighting of the Enemedia did not work on candidate & President Donald J Trump, but sadly was successful with previous candidates starting with in modern times Barry Goldwater, through Reagan’s friend Pat Buchanan & his MAFA platform.
Pitchfork Trump: By Pat Buchanan
https://buchanan.org/blog/pitchfork-trump-124833
If Amanda is here, doesn’t that look like patriot Phylis Schflay giving away the Pitchfork?
Tutor Jones, one of DeSantis’ big donors is also a major supporter of Democrat candidates and causes: https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=+Tudor+Jones
Ken Griffin the other big DeSantis donor, donates mostly GOP establishment candidates and causes.
Yep.
Per the author, “However, on a national policy level, specifically on a presidential level for 2024, the donor influence becomes troubling.”
Yep, pretty much. The question is will DeSantis be an honorable man and support citizens over those who use their money to influence him?
The court is out on that, but if recent history is an indicator, DeSantis will do what his masters want him to do.
I sincerely hop I am proven incorrect.
Barr: Trump using ‘extortion’ to control GOP
August 25, 2022
https://www.yahoo.com/news/barr-trump-using-extortion-to-control-gop-232101391.html
Former Attorney General William Barr said that former President Donald Trump was resorting to “extortion” to continue to exert influence over the Republican Party, and said he still hasn’t decided what to make of the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago and the government’s recovery of hundreds of pages of classified documents.
In a lengthy interview published Thursday, former New York Times editor Bari Weiss asked Barr why more Republicans did not simply come out and say that Trump’s claims that election fraud had prevented him from winning the 2020 election were, to use Barr’s previous word, “bullshit.” [how could he POSSIBLY know since there was no actual, impartial investigation… until the documentary “2000 Mules” which showed that illegal ballet harvesting in just five cities were enough to throw the election. BYW, if you haven’t watched that film, you really should. – W]
“The tactic that Trump is using to exert this control over the Republican Party is extortion,” Barr said of his former boss. “What other great leader has done this? Telling the party, ‘If it’s not me, I’m going to ruin your election chances by telling my base to sit home. And I’ll sabotage whoever you nominate other than me.’ It shows what he’s all about. He’s all about himself.”
Barr knew, or as lawyers always say “should have known” that the russia, russia, russia scam was completely false, as were the ukraine phone call, J6 FBI-‘guidance’, and other antiPDJT FBI/CIA activities. Barr knew “or should have known” that hunter biden’s laptop was being hidden by the FBI, and that vote fraud is rampant in big cities like philly, detroit, st. louis, new york, atlanta, phoenix, san francisco, denver, seattle, etc. Is there anyone who actually believes that chicago voting is an example of the most honest scandal-free elections in history?
Barr’s own AG in PA, begged Barr to investigate the steal in PA.
Barr ignored him.
Fact!
Yep, and years ago here when most everyone was claiming that he and Durham were going to soon lower the hammer of justice, I investigated his background, posted it here, and said don’t EVEN count on it.
I did the same and said the same for both of the best buds and White House Bible Study Group members Sessions and Pence. “But no” I was told here, both of those guys are good Christian family men.
Just a lesson in how cross wearing individuals can be snakes, too.
F.W.B.
“If it’s not me, I’m going to ruin your election chances by telling my base to sit home.”
LOL! So, it’s Trump’s MAGICAL POWERS to command Republicans to not vote if it’s not him instead of those voters NOT voting for someone they DON’T WANT, thereby avoiding the otherwise ENDLESS trap of voting for candidate X only because they don’t want Y to win.
This guy is a joke…he needs to learn he is a cowardly treasonous turd and needs to go sit in a corner and shut up.
I’m glad you posted this as I would not otherwise see it. It’s good to know what that NONdefender of the Constitution is saying abut 45, but, these RINOs are going to be extinct some day. For today though, I consider him a dinosaur that me and others never give the time of day to.
So now the meaning of truth and honesty have been changed to mean
“ extortion”. Ha!
What does Barr define himself to be?
-☠️💩
Here, shortened the article: Former Attorney General William Barr is a Bushie; and anything he says is intended to mar all things President Donald J. Trump to end his threat to our control of the Republican wing of the Uniparty bird.
Barr is the enemy…
Yeah, President Trump had a lot of influence on national policy. That’s why UniParty Deep State World Economic Foundation mopes want Trump (and anybody like Trump) gone. That’s also why I don’t understand Trump’s continued association with The Republican Party. The WinRed fund-skimming operation Trump employs to collect money is the tool that supports RNC. What’s up with THAT!
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It’s an enormous hurdle to qualify a new party to run on the ballot in every state. Not to mention all the low-info party-line Republican voters who would have to get a clue. Also, given the current domination of the two-party system, even a third party winner has to align with one or the other. A “take-over” of the Republican party is more feasible right now.
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Piss-ant Ross Perot did it and then faded like the sunset. All Perot really wanted was to show Yankee GHWB how a real Texan plays politics. This whole rich man’s political game is sick and rotten to the core.
Perot was commissioned by the CFR/Trilateral Commission to split the Anti-NAFTA/WTO vote
Housing prices here in Florida are ridiculous. DeSantis and Florida Republicans better do something about it.
As long as the Federal Reserve Bank prints money and the Biden Admin adds even more trillions with loan-forgiveness, the amount of cash sloshing in the system will keep prices high. Inflation ain’t high prices. Inflation is too much cash in the system produced by no useful or productive work. People don’t produce inflation. Governments produce inflation. Prices everywhere will stay high until government financial policy is Redressed and Reformed.
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What can they do about it (other than — and I’d like to see — bar foreigners from buying real estate)? Any price-setting is socialism.
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ban blackrock and hedge funds from buying up homes and cornering the market and turning Americans into Rent Slaves!
I believe my eyes are now open re: RDS and what he first needs to develop (personally and politically) should he seek higher office.
The issue of funding w/in this article is interesting. I think Sundance is getting ahead of any attempts at demoralizing by media incase they all mockingbird jump onto that Business Daily Review info.
SD, thanks for continued ‘heads ups’.
housing in Florida is and has been out of control, home insurance has been a problem there for decades. Sadly they’re going to offer DeSantis up as a safer MAGA candidate, but there’s no America first economics there. Dude voted for TPP while in congress, add in all the big money Wallstreet backing and now you know this guy is US Chamber approved. I’m assuming the GOPe is planning on Trump being blocked from running by the DOJ and they’re setting the field to give us the choice between Neocons (Haley) and Fake MAGA/US Chamber (DeSantis/Neom).
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Yes, home insurance has been a problem in Florida for years. Many companies pull out after hurricane hits. The rates are regulated but there’s nothing that the government can do about the rise in home prices.
Home prices are rising astronomically, not just because blue-staters have moved to Florida because Covid, but global investors are deliberately buying up all the real estate they can. Not just residential, but farmland too. They are hedging against a financial crash. Also… “You will own nothing”…
Those who do not have mortgages have a lot more flexibility to only insure their properties to the extent of realistic rebuilding costs.
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As a solid supporter of Trump, I refuse to donate one dime to WinRed. I am waiting until DJT declares, and I have an opportunity to donate to only his campaign. I’m not giving anything to the RINO’s, and I think there are many others like me. No donations to NRSC, GOP, or any other National Republican fundraising efforts.
WELL SPOKEN
IF I am NOT Able to DONATE DIRECTLY – I DON’T Go thru ” WinRed ” ( Ronna’s Slush fund IMO ).
again
my reference to ” Peoples Pundit ” Episode 273 – Rich Baris & Don Smith
Lay IT ALL OUT on HOW The MONEY is DOLED OUT – IF it goes thru the NRSC, GOP, NRCC.
https://rumble.com/v1ce32x-episode-273-inside-the-numbers-with-the-peoples-pundit.html
I donated an winred just takes a fee for being the donation platform for Republicans. Save America Pact is Trump’s and it goes through winred..I am not going to with hold donations from him because of that. I do not donate to the GOP at all and the last time they called I told them off and we both hung up simultaneously. I would consider donating to individual candidates.
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The opposite. Donate now. Winred charges a processing fee; it’s a business. Campaigns are what have to share with RNC.
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“Eight Stages of a Democracy.”
1) Bondage to Spiritual Faith
2) Spiritual Faith to Great Courage
3) Great Courage to Liberty
4) Liberty to Abundance
5) Abundance to Selfishness
6) Selfishness to Apathy
7) Apathy to Dependence
8) Dependence back to Bondage
What if Alexander Tytler was Right?
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/what_if_alexander_tytler_was_right.html
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Spiritual faith is only moved by bondage? And has no staying power?
Just because someone in the past comes up with the equivalent of what now would be a clever meme, doesn’t make it into a law of nature. The guy said a lot of negative things that basically boil down to “people are inherently selfish, stupid and bad”.
“Abundance to selfishness”? How about “abundance to giving away all kinds of crap”. And how does “apathy to dependence” work? And where’s taxation in all of this? Or the tyranny of a wealthy class?
Nah…
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I know we should be thinking ahead to the 2024 candidates, but we can’t take our eye off the ball in the upcoming midterms. Conservatives are supposedly losing their huge support to take over the house, and several senate races that should be a no-brainer for conservatives to win do not look good at this time. I know polls can be very slanted, but we must vote. Even if the conservative candidate if not your first choice, don’t sit home and let the dems win.
Come on people, don’t fall for the desantis ticket. We know President Trump is tried and true and patriot through and through.
Too many signs show up that desantis may not be the real deal. The verdict is still out on him.
If we are blessed enough to have PDJT in 2024 (his 2020 election was stolen from him & the American people) and DeSantis runs against him than we know his true colors. Until then I like GOVERNOR Ron DeSantis.
Thank you for your perspective. I truly believe DeSantis has a good core, but he has to make some hard decisions. Who is he going to serve, and what principles.?
“In some places home insurance has tripled just this year; yes, tripled….. Additionally, property tax costs -even with homestead protections- are a serious issue for lots of voters.” – Sundance! Amen! My home insurance in Texas went up 55% almost a $1,000 over last year! That hurts especially living on SS. The great freeze of 2021, much higher home prices and rising costs for replacement were the main factors!!! Now that home has increased so much even with a homestead exemption the taxes are becoming onerous! We The People are getting squeezed economically from all sides!!!! The destruction of the middle class continues unabated!!!
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Insurance rates are regulated, so much of the home insurance hit is coming from the insane housing price increases, much of which is being moved by global investors gobbling up real estate.
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DeSantis needs to stay as Governor of FL. Will see about 2028. Also be more engaged with cleaning up voter roles, illegal ballots and Blackbox voting machines. Only one election away from another Andrew Gillum.
A lot of people will be eating crow when Trump announces after the 2022 midterms that he is not running and is (and has been all along) supporting DeSantis.
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If that were true, DeSantis would be talking about Trump’s successes, and not ignoring Trump in his speeches.
Given Trump’s age, and that it’s still years to 2024, it’s possible that Trump will be unable to run, but right now, you’re just making stuff up. WHY?
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Why would Trump in any way support the RNC Club after the way they have treated him.?
This statement is delusional!
In Robert Barnes live stream yesterday, he again stated that 45 should cleaned stated pharma, specifically Pfizer, lied to him. the current whistleblower case would support this. It would also take the focus off his people, Fauci, Brix, Pence, even though they were in on the ‘ifx’.
Ok, I’m convinced, Sundance doesn’t like DeSantis. But, once you get past that, who does he like? Me, I am a huge Trump fan, my second choice is DeSantis, and I’m not sure there is a third choice I would bother to vote for. Maybe some of you would like Kari Lake who hasn’t won anything yet or, we could persuade Mitt Romney to be our loser again.
I agree with Sundance that it is a bit troubling that DeSantis is relying on big donors but DeSantis isn’t a rich man and doesn’t have the appeal of PDJT to be able to raise huge amounts of money from small donors yet. I really hope & pray Trump and DeSantis will form an alliance and run as a team, I think they would be unbeatable. At this point, I see no benefit in trying to tear down our second most attractive candidate.
Hypothetical: DeSantis beats Trump in primary. Does TCT back DeSantis? Or, do you tell Republicans to stay home and let Hillary win? DeSantis has a tremendous track record in Florida.
Here’s where I stand.
If he’s not on the ballot, I will write in Donald J. Trump for President in ’24 and I will encourage everyone I know to do the same.
I have nothing against Ron DeSantis, but that’s not the point. The Republican party can not go back to the business that was usual before 2008. If they haven’t worked it out yet, they need to think again.
Great idea! I look forward to 4 years of President Newsom and Vice President Susan Rice.
Which is totally fine. If the American public is dumb enough to vote for Communists, it deserves everything that happens next.
That’s the goal of pushing DeSantis anyway. They want him to run but not to win. See McCain ’08. See Romney ’12.
If President Trump’s runs, he will receive enough votes for the GOP nomination, just like he has the last two times
“In 1964, Phyllis Schlafly of Alton, Illinois, mother of six, wrote and published a slim volume entitled “A Choice Not an Echo.” Backing the candidacy of Sen. Barry Goldwater, the book was a polemic against the stranglehold the eastern liberal establishment had held on the Republican nomination for decades”.
Trump & the Hillarycons
https://buchanan.org/blog/Topics/phyllis-schlafly
Amen.
We won’t get fooled again.
The media has been the gatekeeper (crypt keeper?) of information.
Now we have each other, and the news of loyalty to economic nationalism can go viral.
Good to know, for me it solidly confirms recent DeSantis criticism. I’ll pass it on…thanks!
IMHO the MSM is steering clear of DeSantis right now in hopes of making him look more palatable to R’s and MAGA – while surrounding PDJT in their usual maelstrom of malevolence. I think what moderate and establishment R’s miss about DeSantis is that should PDJT exit and hand the reins to DeSantis, the hit jobs on DeSantis will be just as bad and worse on DeSantis.
We are in a new phase of the battle with the liberal press and their communist base. Having crossed so many lines with PDJT, there should be no doubt that they will throw the same (if not worse) punches at DeSantis. The enabled FBI will continue spying, entrapping, etc.
I understand that the establishment and moderates think DeSantis handles the press more adroitly than PDJT but he’s yet to see the press that will relentlessly and maliciously attack him on the national stage. While I like DeSantis, the MSM will inevitably take him down while the establishment compromises him.
I remain hopeful that Trump will select him as a running mate because we’re going to need 12 years to clean this up. Just hoping PDJT can train him up in the next term.