In addition to being a featured writer in The Atlantic, David Frum is a tenured member of the republican professional political class. Frum has a similar pedigree to many well-known republican politicians, and his curriculum vitae includes:
“David Frum has been active in Republican politics since the first Reagan campaign of 1980. From 2014 through 2017, Frum served as chairman of the board of trustees of the leading UK center-right think tank, Policy Exchange. In 2001-2002, he served as speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush.
David Frum holds a BA and MA in history from Yale and a law degree from Harvard, where he served as President of the Federalist Society. He and his wife Danielle Crittenden Frum live in Washington DC and Wellington, Ontario. They have three adult children.” (link)
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Go quietly (and dutifully) …
I’d rather have kicking screaming and taking aa many out with him as possible kind of politician at this point.
Personally I think they are telling us what we fear so they can poison the well. Guess we shall see.
Go Quietly. You know, Hillary said if she was indited she was taking half of DC with her; may be the only reason she’s not indited.
“If defeated he’d go peacefully”.
That’s the tell right there! If he were honest, which he isn’t, the neocon slimeball would have said “When defeated he’d go peacefully”. That’s what “normal” Republicans are supposed to do- lose gracefully, except crumbs off the table from our overlords and slink away, tail between legs.
People need to get in Frum’s face and tell him, Trump was not defeated by the American voters. He was defeated by a criminal syndicate!
Did Sundance ever hear back from DeSantis’ Press Secretary after calling her out specifically?
I noticed- she announced leaving that position right after that- to focus on the election….
There you go folks.
“If defeated, he’d go peacefully.”
–or–
“Yeah, in big stakes events, I only commit myself to leaders who know how to wave the white flag with proper deference and respect.”
Yeah. they don’t want any more back talk from the candidates.
The only MAGA politician is Trump.
When Trump is gone MAGA dies and will turn into MINO (MAGA in name only).
When Trump is gone we go back to CONservatives and then DeSantis will be acceptable to the republican lemmings.
Pretty much.
MINO, I like that!
When spoken MINO sounds the same as minnow.
A successful movement cannot be dependent on one person. There must be several to carry the policies and the fight. I have seen nothing from DeSantis that makes me think he’s a GOPe impostor.His governing of Florida is pure MAGA.
If DeSantis would support Trump now, after this outrageous raid. it would unite and strengthen MAGA greatly. It would also depress the Rinos. They will keep fighting Trump if DeSantis is considered a viable alternative for the base and their plans. DeSantis should not sell out to the GOP.
If DeSantis makes it clear(to the Rinos) he isn’t interested in usurping Trump it would actually strengthen him politically.
Plus, he’ll get experience if he stays in Florida and governs there for a few more years.
I am with you on this. DeSantis should 100% support President Trump.
It is not his time.
If he did we could have 3 terms of Maga Presidential leadership.
But right now I am hearing too much DeSantis campaigning.
He is my Gov. & i really like him.
If you believe that, then you aren’t paying attention to what’s going on all over the country in state and local primaries.
It’s a silent wave, but it is a wave. The MAGA movement is gaining steam and it isn’t going away like the establishment hoped it would with a Trump loss in 2020. It will take over the Republican party within 4 years or so. The “establishment” is losing ground fast.
The Precinct Strategy has been steadily chugging along and been quite effective across the nation. MAGA people are taking over their local GOP apparatus but too many don’t know because they don’t listen to Steve Bannon’s radio show.
That’s really the one incredible play the Trump guys did that I don’t think many people understand or know about.
I saw a whole discussion the other day about “why is the MAGA party not a 3rd party” and a guy that actually worked with Trump put forward that there is this extensive infrastructure that either the Republican or Democrat party has that any third party simply cannot challenge. And he pointed out that it was people like precinct people and the like that Trump’s guys targeted.
And now we live in a nation were much of the ground game people for the Republican party are…MAGA. And the people with their eyes on national level prizes have no idea.
MAGA isn’t dying…it’s GROWING.
IMO Steve Bannon is an American hero/warrior/patriot by anyone’s definition. Listen to him every, single day.
Yes, they are losing ground fast. And it scares them. It appears that they’ve realized they, at best, have ~2 years to complete irreversible changes to the global order. Because of their fear and the desire to implement in such a short time frame they’re making themselves extremely visible to the voting populace. In that last sentence I started to say “…they’re making mistakes…” but they aren’t. I believe they full understand the risk they are taking just as they equally understand the risk if they aren’t able to implement their plan(s). Trump turned the light on in kitchen in the middle of the night. Now they’re scurrying around with near reckless abandon.
There is very little that these loons can do that is irreversible. Things can be FUBAR’d pretty bad but like anything else given enough time/money it can be made right.
Irreversible changes – Alter voting “laws” such that they can’t lose an election. Oh, yeah…. there certainly are irreversible changes that exist – or could exist. Splitting fine hairs – yeah, an armed revolution could change that I suppose. But accepting “no armed conflict” can also imply irreversible changes. But I do understand the basis of your comment.
Then what’s the point? Until we the people understand that MAGA needs to work from the ground up to higher offices, the movement truly will die with Donald Trump. Get a MAGA mayor, MAGA sheriff, MAGA D.A.s, and MAGA congressman in office then see how much easier this gets.
What you’re asking for is great … but how do we do it? Are you running for office? I am considering doing it, I was hoping I could run for something this year but it wasn’t possible due to my job.
President Trump shared this link months ago asking everyone to get involved
https://theprecinctstrategy.com
Then we have only a cult of personality, and not a political movement. In that case, it deserves to lose.
“cult of personality”
Repeating anti drumpf Establishment talking points which are, by now, obviously projection/deflection?
“We have”.
Who is ” we”?
DeSantis needs giving the Nikki Haley treatment. I’m glad he’s done what he did in Florida, but he only did it to steal Trump votes. We need to see the REAL DeSantis, because he smacks of Bush to me!
I suspect he’d act differently if he was a billionaire and not dependent on big donors for his campaign. We need another MAGA billionaire who can fund his own campaign and enter the White House without a big stack of IOUs. In other words, we need to clone real President Trump.
You don’t even need a billionaire.
What you need is a charismatic but earthy, smart, and hard-nosed, fearless candidate.
The people will handle the rest.
Honestly, the MAGA movement doesn’t need charismatic, what it needs is honesty, truthfulness and MAGA guts, along with earthy, smart, hard-nosed and fearlessness!
@evergreen
Conservative rapper and commentator Zuby echoes your sentiment. He said a man of integrity will stick to his principles no matter the adversity he faces.
Rich or poor, too many people lack such integrity nowadays.
Trump was a billionaire — but he campaigned smart, and spent way, way less than Hillary, who had a huge warchest and zillions of special interest big donors. He used Twitter, Facebook, and rallies to get his message out. And most of his donors were working class people, who sent in $10, $20, etc. He is a billionaire, but he also knows how to spend smart. Plus, the media couldn’t get enough of his sound bites — and thought he was so outrageous that covering his every word would hurt him. Boy, were they wrong… and he got free publicity!
I attempted to believe the macro political steering mechanisms did not place DeSantis in such a hincky light.
I was wrong.
The de-san-tis cattle brand has been settled:
XX The Double-crosser brand assigned to the unkept, lower valued GOPe herd.
It appears by the number and content of many of the replies herein that Frum may have succeeded in a hidden agenda of causing dissension in the ranks.
Looks more like he revealed Common Ground, to me. He has confirmed what EVERYONE is thinking.
Which is that TRUMP Is the Man – but the GOPe and Friends want DeSantis anyway, because he can be managed, and he won’t make the Dems very uncomfortable, after all.
A reasonable assumption!
When all of this get RDS plays out in November and you jerks give my state Nikki Friedchicken as governor through your anti-RDS handwringing Republican vote suppression strategy, we’ll see.
You will be to blame.
Floridians won’t forget or forgive.
Lin Wood destroyed Georgia’s senate races with the same BS propaganda and now they have two leftwing nutjobs in place of semi-reasonable Republicans as senators.
You anti-RDS people need to STFU until AFTER November. Jeez.
Everyone wants Ron to be Florida’s governor.
Everyone wants to foil the Swamp schemers who are plotting to take Ron AWAY from Florida rather than letting him stay and keep FOCUSing on Florida.
Perhaps be happy and grateful for those trying to thwart the schemers trying to fukk you, Florida and young Ron?
Beware of any politician who follows the “norms”. Beware of any conservative journalist who praises a politician for following the norms, i.e., David Frum and Jason Riley of the WSJ.
Beware of the “conservative” label. It’s the “pull-the-wool-over-the-eyes” of voters name that I, at least, am convinced is double-speak for RINO. But of course, they can’t call themselves RINOs, can they; too many ears would perk up.
Can any of us here count on even one hand how many true conservatives occupy DC’s formerly hallowed halls? Grifters and scoundrels ring truer than the once-respectable “conservative” label.
Is our nation’s moral decline so absolute that our political leaders see us as easy marks, upon whom they may weasel-like suck the blood out of us with near impunity?
I’ve known David Frum as among the Trojan horses of the Republican Party for nigh unto 15 years now. Too bad he hasn’t retired.
He’s done a good job in Florida, not sure that translates nationally so I’m not going to get all worked up. It’s a long way to Tipperary (sp) and a lot will happen between now and then.
keep your guards up. this is really starting to stink
I keep saying I’m so happy it’s happening now and not Spring 2024.
Your actions are speaking SO loudly, I cannot hear your words.
There is ONLY one man capable of Making America Great Again. He did it once despite the numerous “politicians” trying to take him down.
DeSantis sadly, is more interested in DeSantis than America’s future. It pains me to state the obvious.
“If defeated he will go peacefully.” DeSantis will love that line.
So far, the Gov. hasn’t tweeted his gratitude to Frum for his valuable endorsement. I hope P Trump and DeSantis will be tough but friendly competitors (if they both run) like Trump and Huckabee were in 2016. But it will likely turn ugly as DeSantis gains the votes of Floridians, all RINO’s, the deep pocketed GOPe donors and so on.
What is best for America should be considered by DeSantis and others that might be eager to attempt the defeat of PDJT in 2024. But, I seriously doubt they will defeat him unless the Democrat DOJ and FBI continue to hound and persecute Trump etc. If RD ever won the nomination that way, it would be a pyrrhic victory for him and very bad news for the USA.
What a horrible endorsement
Just Perfect for the Object of it.
You know RDS personally? Stop fabricating, fabulist.
“go peacefully” = surrendered
Bloody Doormat
Yeah, ’cause RDS has been a doormat his first term as Florida’s Governor. Where have you been, noob?
The establishment GOP will use DeSantis to divide the republican vote. They would rather have a lefty communist in power than President Trump…TDS runs deep with the GOP. Sad…
So, ultimately it all comes down to how DeSantis reacts to Trump announcing. If DeSantis himself endorses Trump, then he’s either smart and called off some effort to get to the Whitehouse in 2024 or he actually supports the MAGA movement (or both I suppose). If he does nothing…well I guess we’ll know he’s the establishment guy.
Personally, I’ve not been thoroughly impressed by DeSantis because all he did was the minimum of what he was elected to do, and that’s a really low bar considering. Compared to other Republicans…OK, he’s done a lot. But that says more about the general state of politics and the parties than it does about DeSantis.
The problem for me with DeSantis is, much of the “Trump vs DeSantis” stuff is coming from sources I don’t at all trust. I’m not sure about any of it to be perfectly honest. So I guess I’ll wait for what DeSantis does. Either way, I want an angry Trump ready to fire a lot of people in the Whitehouse. I don’t trust anyone else to do it.
DeSantis doesn’t project the moxxy to declare a concurrent candidacy to Trump.
Now, he may position himself as the Ready Republican Replacement for the eventuality of Trump’s conviction or other branding event that labels Trump unelectable by some GOP consensus. For example, if the GOP bestows the honor on him, he will accept, but he won’t go head to head with Trump to get it.
Maybe the GOP will join ranks with the DNC and to counter a Trump candidacy, they will unite behind a Cheney/Pelosi ticket or some such.
DeSantis has plenty of “moxxy”, whatever that means. I have an idea but that’s a word I never really looked up or studied, but let’s assume I am right saying he has it, because I assume that myself.
Anyways, the guy has every chop you could assign to a really awesome Republican candidate for president.
And the media is trying to make this whole “DeSantis vs Trump” thing.
And that’s where it all gets difficult. Who to trust? Is DeSantis a GOPe pick to go against Trump? Or is he just a guy who did a decent job in a mostly red state and deserves to be taken as a serious guy?
As I am saying, none of that matters before he reacts (or doesn’t) to when Trump announces. Then we’ll know for sure. If he jumps to support Trump, he’s probably good. If he stays silent, he’s bad for sure.
Actions, as the saying goes, speak louder than words.
Romney? Are you SERIOUS? What state, exactly, do you live in? Obviously it’s not Florida. Does Romney Care not ring a belly-bell for you?
RDS has never come close to the stupid, venial, evil of CORPORATE RAIDER like Mittens ROMNEY.
Pull your head out before you suffocate.
If Nevertrumper scumbags like Frum accept DeSantis, look out.
Agree with you 100%. Then again Frum only pretends to accept DeSantis for the purposes of driving a wedge between Trump and De Santis supporters. IF DeSantis were to actually win the 2024 primary Frum would pile on like the fake news media did to John McCain. And then Frum would vote for the Democrat anyway (like he usually does most likely).
I have a sneaking suspicion that Frum got what he wanted from you – let’s hate DeSantis. Some libs are acctually pretty good at trolling.
There should be plenty of time to watch DeSantis. Trump is the only true 2024 candidate. If DeSantis runs against him then we all know who is really controlling him. I, myself, don’t see that yet. Let’s hope for Trump 2024 and a continued strong governorship by DeSantis heading into 2028.
Well, if that doesn’t make DeSantis feel highly insulted And he doesn’t know why it SHOULD, then Like Kirk Douglas said to Joanna Barnes in War Wagon, “Lady, If you don’t know what he said, then you’ve been here (in the Saloon) too long.”
“Feel insulted”? Oh, so we are judging our prospective leadership on their Fee-Fees now, are we?
DeSantis has a vested interest in seeing that the election fraud is cleaned up before he runs. If he runs in 2024 and nothing changes they will do to him what they did to Trump. But if the Democrats lose Congress and the Senate and the beans are spilled on 2020 then he will have a much easier time becoming President.
If so (and I agree), why hasn’t he led the effort to remove Dominion machines from Florida? Why not champion old fashioned paper ballots counted, Election Day, in the precincts? Up until now, Ron DeSantis has proven he has the political savvy to stay in front of where the people are going. We’ll just have to see if he continues to do so….
A friend just sent me a link to Alex Jones pronouncement that he will support DeSantis in 2024 over Trump. More than disappointing. I think it will backfire on Alex Jones though.
haha Alex Jones who has ZERO creditability other than a bunch of KOOKS … stay in your crazy lane Alex …Trump is probably breathing a sigh of RELIEF
Alex is generally twenty years ahead of garden variety self-righteous preeners.
AJs job is to target normie truthers while FOX targets normie republicans.
Both can be useful as LONG as you realize they build trust so at KEY moments you’ll trust their opinion and follow where they lead.
As long as you don’t TRUST them theyre very useful, especially non AJ shows on AJs network.
A TOTALLY expected move by AJ.
AJ’s a honey pot/pied piper like FOX News/FOX personalies is/are, except AJ targets normie truthers rather than normie republicans.
Benjis another AJ but Benji targets more smug, IQ insecure Conservatives.
Who takes Frum seriously? How can we take Frum seriously? (autocorrect Freudian slip: “From” required corrective edit twice!)
Ontario and UK invested interests do not an unconflicted American make. Frum seems a highly unfit arbiter of American interests. Frum instead seems riven with irreconcilable conflicts and personal history.
People like Frum are not the cure for our diseased national plight.
They are not the cure. They are the disease.
“Maybe you don’t like DeSantis manner or record”…..This is not what I would call a glowing endorsement. It’s more of anyone but Trump. DeSantis doesn’t get to choose who endorses him. He called out the FBI for the raid but for some of you, he didn’t do it quick enough.
He served honorably in the Marines and is still in the reserves.
He supports gun rights, low taxes, lower government spending, a state level ban on sanctuary cities, the repeal of the Retirement Earnings Test which taxes senior citizens, waiving the state gas tax, and the Fairness in Women’s Sports Act which bans biological males from competing in women’s sports.
He supports the Florida Parental Rights in Education Act which bans teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity in classrooms.
In 2017 he proposed an amendment to halt funding of Mueller’s bogus Russia investigation of Trump. He supports term limits for Congress members.
After the 2020 election, DeSantis called for eliminating ballot drop boxes and limiting voting by mail because of voter fraud.
If this isn’t MAGA enough for you, then no one will be.
Bush, Jr. supports gun rights, low taxes, lower govt. spending, a ban on sanctuary cities, parental rights. repeal of the Retirement Earnings Test, parental rights in education.
If Bush, Jr., isn’t MAGA enough for you, nobody is.
I NEVER voted for Bush and he was a terrible Governor. Trump also supports those things. What is your point?
The point is, your measuring stick for what makes somebody MAGA is faulty, because clearly, under your current guidelines, Bush would qualify.
Oh my God no more Bushes! They’ve made enough money off of us.
Ron sounds like he definitely will do wonderful things during his second term as Florida’s governor.
And it sounds like Florida will appreciate having four more years with Guv Ron.
Here’s one glaring tell on DeSantis: instead of campaigning in his home state to save a senate seat, he travels to Arizona to bask in the political sunshine of the recent MAGA successes there. Golden rule of understanding politicians – watch what they do, not what they say.
The Florida primary isn’t until 8/23. Why can’t he do both?
Just another America-destroying Neo-Con doing the bidding of his money-hungry cult.
Ronny will have to bend to the donors, hence more UniParty immigration and offshoring. Trump needs no donors.
However, with the Chamber of Commerce clearly democrat now….
Ideal ticket is Trump/DeSantis; Trump will destroy the Deep State while being term limited and the Ron takes over the war torn DC.
if Trump picks DeSantis they LOSE the electoral votes out of Florida. There is ZERO way he was ever on the short list
Ben Carson is who it needs to be. He is soft spoken but can be a bulldog when needed to be. He can put you in place without raising his voice.
I’m for Ben Carson too.
Noooo to DeSantis being Trump’s VP. DeSantis has already displayed a lack of respect for Trump. Trump needs true allies.
De Santis as VP would rob Florida of their popular 43 year young governor.
As VP in DC Ron would fuel 24/7 palace intrigue and unsourced, gossipy, anti Trump hit pieces. Whether he would want that or not, it would happen.
Well, Mr Frum. That is the rub. Trump was never defeated
Maybe another guy with TDS?
Sorry…but we are way beyond politics and what is good or acceptable for the GOP or the nation. He would go silently if he looses? What? First off…the GOP and their comrades have left America to be consumed by the socialists. They are not with us…or MAGA! They are imposters and traitors…that’s worse than rhinos! If you have been paying attention to the left, their tactics, the descent into evil power they portray when they get it…and how the GOP goes right along with it in most cases….younwould realize this is WAR! Not politics. Desantis…love him. But TRUMP is our man…and thank GOD he has not gone away SILENTLY! HELLO? We are in a fight for our nation folks…we may not even be able to vote or elect our way out of it. That’s the scary part! It’s time to hit back…play the way they play when they have power….we MUST take our country back!
This is why we do not listen to you Rino’s. Sorry WE STAND WITH TRUMP
Exactly what we don’t need , “A normal US politician”.
Frum is a Canadian. Canadians stayed loyal to Britain during the Revolutionary War.
DeSantis is a smart politician. If he’s going to make a run he needs big RNC funding (he is not independently wealthy like PT) so he has to present as the “not-Trump” candidate to acquire that essential resource. On the other hand, he tries to play the large MAGA-aligned voter group by being “decisive” and appearing to be “10th amendment federalistic” by resisting federal intrusion into FL, which is red meat to patriotic citizens – and should be. Further, his dealing with the perverted Disney organization appeals to the morality factor of those same voters.
But his behavior in this matter has exposed his duplicity and his desire to play to the major funding element of the republican party, so Sundance is quite correct – should he be elected president his actions would be guided by the swamp and lobbyist element and not the citizens… so sad.
“If defeated, he’d go peacefully!” So that’s the new mantra of the GOP? Voting for a person who’s just fine with having the election stolen from him is the way to fix America? Funny way to characterize the person you’re promoting for the top job. I wouldn’t give you a nickel for that kind of coward. To be fair to DeSantis, who would be my distant 2nd choice, I don’t think he’s a coward. Connected, yes. But willing to fall on his sword for the GOP? Nah.
If Frum is saying it then that’s who they back. All the more reason to Push Trump as the nominee. Trump needs to shut down the BS in DC, run roughshod over all the departments that illegally investigated, and then undermined our Presidents agenda. THEY the political professionals need to be reminded that WE are in charge.
I think ron desantis has been a good governor but anyone that Frum thinks is good is the end for me. Also, Frum gives away the real reason here. When Desantis (loses) he will go away gracefully. In other words, we can cheat and steal and we think he wont make too much a fuss about it. Yeah, no thanks. Regardless, the raid on Mar a lago made trump the decider here. Its up to him at this point if he wants the nomination or not. Wants it , its his.
Trump will easily defeat Desantis in the R primary. The real question is, how does Trump best leverage him over the next 2 years? The likes of Frum really help Trump, by emboldening Desantis to swing closer to MAGA.
I’d say we here now recognize he’s not MAGA, but if he helps move the needle, great. And Trump will defeat him, while using his campaign to grow MAGA. This won’t be 2016 strategery, knocking down pure RINO charlatans. It will be unique.
Desantis can’t attack Trump, or he’s done. That’s useful too. A toothless RINO pony forces the media to talk well of MAGA, if they’re triangulating against Trump. Leave it to the great man to develop the master plan. We’ll see what happens.
Off the railers, Florida is a centrist state. Take it from a native Floridian. DeSantis can’t govern the state from the far right or he’ll lose. He HAS to govern from center right.
All of you purists just keep bashing RDS as a RINO and an evil pawn of Satan and this state will go firmly into the forever BLUE column with all of its electoral votes because you will help elect pothead Nikki Friedchicken, the Soros-backed (D) contender through suppression of the (R) vote.
And Florida will HATE you all for it.
Remember who endorsed Ron, campaigned for him and drug him across the finish line so he became Florida’s governor?
Centrist, common sense Republican, Trump. My descriptors of Trump were not snark btw.
I agree the sharia christian conservatives agenda: 2015 Cruzlims, 2017 Judge Roy Moores and 2022 Kathy Barnettes are in many states, and nationally, a turn off and why Trumps MAGA agenda prevailed since 2015, in most cases.
This obsession with vilifying DeSantis or any other possible successor to Trump has to stop (and by possible successor, I do not mean Pence, Haley,etc.). If we understand that we are dealing with an existential threat, Woke Marxism, then we are going to need all of the allies we can get. Recall how the Right in the 1960s combined the traditional/social conservatives with the economic libertarians (Fusionism) to bring us Ronaldus Magnus and destroy the Evil Empire that global Bolshevism represented. We are going to need to do something similar again.
I see no vilification. I see data point analysis of a politician, a novel concept for those who were blind to Romney and McCain and their like. I prefer this data driven approach over the mindless acceptance of the Uniparty chosen.
That is a great analytical approach. What are the data points here that suggest DeSantis cannot be trusted?
I see emotional spew. I read “He’s a filthy, lying RINO! I always knew it! He was never, ever, ever MAGA! RDS is the devil incarnate! He’s trying to bump Daddy off! EVILEVILEVILEVIL!!!”
There is not a whole hell of a lot of rational, reasonable debate going on.
A lot of outside people dumping on my governor will suppress Republican turnout, just like Lin Wood did in Georgia. And Georgia got two leftarded Communists as senators.
I can see that SAME playbook here. Suppress the R vote to install Nikki Friedchicken as the D governor and turn Florida blue forever and all of those tasty electoral votes will go to the next idiot installed by the DemonRats.
But, do keep toying with your purism. Your state, no doubt, is secure.
Mine? Not so much. Gillum almost won. It looks like that Communist D-hag Demings will win Rubio’s Republican Senate seat. But do keep suppressing the R turnout. That should play so well in a R majority state of easily led lemming imports.
I’ll hold my nose and vote Rubio and I will enthusiastically vote DeSantis.
Followers can quibble over the more orthodox and pure MAGA candidates on the fringes, if there are any.
I’ll take a win for the R side and work to grow ever more conservatives who can replace the milquetoast ones in future elections.
Never forget. PDJT campaigned for RDS. Yeah. CAMPAIGNED FOR RDS.
And he’s never given RDS a cutesy little adjective title either like “Crooked” or “Little” or “Low Energy.”
If Marco is in danger of losing to a commie democrat, hopefully Ron will use his political capital in Florida to drag him across the finish line like Trump did for him.
Again, NO snark intended. At all.
If/when Desantis is co-opted by the RINO wing I will be done with him
“If defeated, he’d go peacefully”?!!!
That’s a hell of an endorsement and gives away the real purpose.
I’m still in a “wait and see” mode for DeSantis.
While I can appreciate commenter’s opinions here at the Treehouse, at this point, all we can do is observe. Personally, I would like to see DeSantis humble enough to learn from Trump as he serves the country as his VP. Yes, I’m still in that boat. I am a Floridian, I live in Tampa Bay (St. Petersburg- born and raised)
DeSantis is apparently being groomed by the GOPe, and why wouldn’t they? “They” certainly don’t want him to be outside of Club Elite, where Trump patiently waits. Ron knows too much. If he were to do the right thing, (“right” being the operative word here) he would be a formidable adversary to the elite and a boon to all those who are intent on draining the swamp. He is smart, a fighter and has the balls to challenge, the same as Trump. He is a Christian and a good family man.
Perhaps instead of us all bloviating opinion, we should be busy writing to the governor encouraging him not to become part of the swamp. To join DJT in his fight for Saving America as his VP. Then go for the 8 years afterward as our country’s leader to continue the quest. It will take that long or longer to mop up this menagerie that is our country today.
I also think a Trump/DeSantis ticket would be unbeatable. The left can only dream of such a powerful ballot.
I’ll be getting started on that letter right away.
If PDJT would just come out and denounce the jab (among other COVID missteps) I would 100% keep my support behind him. If not, I have to consider the possibility that Desantis is the better choice.
Perhaps Desantis has presidential aspirations, not because he is trying to “take out” trump, but because he thinks he will have policies that will be better for the country, specifically in the realm of medical tyranny.
In the end Trump will win nomination & pick De Santis for VP & everyone here will put down the pitchforks. Because we will be headed for 12 yrs of Maga leadership.
I would hope that RDS would not accept. We need him in Florida. The Lt. Gov is great, but has no name recognition unless you look her up and read up on her.
She would be a great governor once RDS’s eight is enough are over. But not yet.
I like John Rutherford. I think he would be great as Gov. He is in congress so he might better stay put.
All DeSantis needs to do is remain Governor of Florida until 2028 and win the Presidency then, after Trump fulfills his destiny.
I’m a Floridian, and support DeSantis in every way, but 2024 is too soon for him to run for President.
I use to like DeSantis. Normally I would support him even perhaps in place of Trump.
But if Frum likes him I am going to have to find another back up candidate to Trump.
Frum is toilet bowl scum.
It’s SO important to “go peacefully” after defeat by election fraud. Well… I will have to disagree and only say, KISS MY ASS, FRUM.
The division between those who support PDJT and those who support Governor DeSantis is exactly what the Very Fake News Media, the Left, and RINO’s are looking for.
I am not going down that rabbit hole.
I support VSGPDJT 100%. He will clear the field IMO when, and not if, he announces for President.
I also support Governor DeSantis. He IMO is the best Governor in America.
As you all go down the divisive rabbit hole, the Very Fake News Media, the Left, and RINO’s smile.
I am not playing into their hands.
Agreed. It’s disappointing to see the knives out for DeSantis with purity tests and speculation.
Question some of Trump’s personal decisions though, and it’s a feral pack of wolves on you.
One had a chance and blew it bigly in some ways, but redecoration is a fine thing.
One makes all the right moves but is unproven on a grand scale.
I’ll vote for either. Neither one is owned or establishment. Likely the entire act of voting now is symbolic, however.
Ghost dancing in the dying embers of a republic.
Perhaps:
In 2024, Ron will be Florida’s hard working 45 year young governor.
In 2024, no matter what the Swamp does to President Trump, it will be TRUMP 2024.; either Don the father or Don the son. Either for four more years or for eight more years.
Its up to the Swamp, our prayers and God.
Sundance reminds readers to pray each day, “Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”.
Additionally, Im praying that I, as well as all who love Him, allow Him to work with us and through us so that His will truly IS done here, as it is in heaven, ie joyfully and without second guessing and fussing.
Thankfully God has heard this last prayer and has been sending me lots of practice since I assured Him I wanted to improve my ability to joyfully cooperate with Him rather being in “Me Mode” until I screw up bigly or things get screwed up bigly.😘
I ask God to send St Michael The Archangel to protect President Trump from the devils trying to destroy him.
That should be REDEMPTION not redecoration. Sorry.
Trump did NOT blow it bigly in ANY way. he was hindered by the GOPe and all DemonRATS, the Media, Big Tech etc. The fact that you can sit and Try to judge what the greatest president in US history had problems with shows just how small a mind you truly have. Your post is disappointing to say the least. As for the one that “makes all the right moves” what Rock do you live under? Doing things half assed or capitulating to the left on Many of the deals made by him is exactly WHY he is Unproven, still an Infant in politics, and unfit to be president as of yet. Maybe in a decade IF he is able to hold on to his integrity, which is already in question by Millions of Trump supporters and Independents too. No offense but I do hope our average Conservative voter is better informed than what I read above.
It seems to me that Trump and DeSantis regularly communicate. For all we know, Trump asked DeSantis not to comment on the raid. One thing I know for sure is that David Frum’s goal is to destroy MAGA by eliminating the individuals who are likely to keep it going, and DeSantis is likely to be the successor to Trump. It’s also a certainty that after decades of mistakes, conservatives are unlikely to vote for any dynasty because we know the results of doing that are horrific. Frum wants to leave us with no choice other than Nikki, Kristi, Chris Christy or the awful Kasich. That way we, and our America First Movement would be destroyed. Don’t believe a word from David Frum.
Their smiling because they want to destroy DeSantis and Florida.