Bunker boy Ron DeSantis has completed five days of silence and is scheduled to re-emerge tomorrow in Arizona as part of the TPUSA national tour. Those of you who have walked the deep weeds of national politics, know exactly what is happening. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has entered the managing phase of the GOPe candidate process.
[The TLDR version is HERE] – The well-liked Florida Governor has remained silent and invisible for five days, ever since the FBI raid against President Trump at Mar-a-Lago, in West Palm Beach, Florida. {Go Deep} The governor of the state has said nothing and avoided any opportunity where he may have been asked for comment. Instead, he has transmitted two pre-recorded statements from the bunker.
The silence is deafening transparency for those who accept how the professional republican club operates; the key word is “accept.” Unfortunately, there is a jaw-dropping amount of denial. We are seeing the outcome of Ron DeSantis being professionally managed by the GOPe club.
Now we move into the phase of re-branding where risks are mitigated, and positions are modified. Earlier today, while still in the bunker, DeSantis’ press secretary Christina Pushaw announced her exit.
As the rebranding takes shape, Ms. Pushaw is now moved away from the principle (that’s Ron) and becomes a part of the campaign team.
(FLORIDA) – Christina Pushaw, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Press Secretary, departed her administrative role Friday to join the Republican Governor’s re-election campaign.
The Florida Standard, a conservative new media outlet, was the first to report Pushaw’s shuffle and published her resignation letter, which Pushaw sent to Chief of Staff James Uthmeier and Director of Administration Dawn Hanson on Friday. She will become the campaign’s Director of Rapid Response beginning Monday.
Deputy Press Secretary Bryan Griffin will step in as lead Press Secretary on Monday, where he will report directly to Communications Director Taryn Fenske. (more)
DeSantis has no primary challenger, so the club timing right on schedule. He emerges from the bunker with a few weeks to break in the new alliance, new team, new campaign motive and new brand image. Bold becomes pastel. Tomorrow the GOPe club kick-off the relaunch through the aligned TPUSA organization, which they have now taken control by purchasing Charlie Kirk. Remember, in club politics it’s the money that changes things.
The script will follow the customary mapping. DeSantis will start a national enhanced branding effort, increased exposure to unfamiliar audiences, and simultaneously absorb the MAGA aspect the GOPe need. MAGA bona fides will come from appearances with names like Kari Lake and Blake Masters, under the auspices of endorsements.
On its face, it is supposed to look like DeSantis is endorsing Kari Lake and Blake Masters, two strong MAGA candidates. However, the actual club motive is to transfer the MAGA currency of Lake and Masters into the pocket of DeSantis.
The club gets much more out of it than Lake or Masters. The club gets the stealth benefits that people never pay attention to. This is part of the brand image for DeSantis and club strategy.
Whether Ron DeSantis knew of the DC/FBI targeting effort before Monday is a moot point. What DeSantis did know was that this week a new branding effort would begin. It started with the “Dear Governor DeSantis” commercials. The subtle shift is to nudge him out of Florida politics into a more prominent national role
All of this is coordinated by the national club. Nothing is just random, but the presentation to the voters must retain the illusion of choice.
Everything now is about club branding and club management. That’s why I knew four days ago that Pushaw would depart, and I started to deliver statements on Twitter toward that end. Many people became upset. However, I do not take such a severe position, as I did on Monday, without overlaying all of the data-points we have assembled. I know it sometimes shocks people, they get mad at me, but as you watch it you will see it unfold. This is simply how the club operates.
It’s not DeSantis fault per se’. He doesn’t really have many options. He holds no independent wealth to keep the club away from influence.
DeSantis is being managed now. He’s shifted into the Pence, Jeb, Haley, professional wing of the club. Things change. He’s accepting GOPe grooming (bunker silence). Simultaneously risks are distanced (Pushaw departs official orbit), proximity mitigation. It really is just a mgmt/branding effort.
Now he will begin a national tour. A book (written for him) is looming. The pattern never changes.
The “professionals” will now enter the picture. The orbit of DeSantis will be more controlled. Representatives will come from the professional political class. Speeches and remarks will be filtered and approved. Risks will be mitigated. Control mechanisms in place. However, the illusion of authenticity must be retained. This is the club weak point (see Cruz and Haley). This is what the club will try to modify with DeSantis and Kristi Noem.
At first, whenever DeSantis reemerges – likely tomorrow, you will notice a subtle shift, perhaps an awkwardness. A slight change in the authenticity you used to love. A more careful and deliberate speech pattern. Longer thoughts before responses. More appearances on Fox News. Brett Baier et al, w/ the assist.
The technique is Norman Rockwell (optics) and Ward Cleaver (tones), soft hues and gentlemanly pastels.
Club branding is subtle on the image front, but very clear on the substantive messaging side. Social issues selected to maximize camp coalition, and influence base.
Consistently present political messaging where the republican voter base can say “yes.” Keep the “yes” messaging at the forefront (social emphasis). Focus on values. Schools, kids, safety, woke pushback, media bias etc, keep the audiences nodding yes. Ultimately, it’s a sales technique. Identify with the target to influence their decisions.
Issues around multinational & corporate economics, hard lines, foreign policy, all these things must be avoided – except in general terms. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not to be challenged, not really. Keep the message social and build the emotional connection. It is harder to break an emotional bond than a logical or cognitive bond.
These are the political techniques of Lee Atwater that still make up the bulk of the GOPe club playbook. The greatest skill of the professionally republican is to present the illusion of choice in such a way as the voters do not see it.
Keep in mind, back in Washington DC both clubs are collaborating on the Trump removal program because both clubs’ benefit.
If we watch closely, we will see a MAGA-lite, professionally controlled republican go from five-days as a pupa (now) to chrysalis (next), to national club butterfly.
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Hi Karl.
Then I guess we tear him down. Do as the media does- loudly and routinely call him out. Over and over.
Ron DeSantisis done for me. Kari Lake has balls and I will support Lake. Screw DeSantis.
The regime’s political opponents eh, distancing and repositioning himself from the president….?
John Cardillo and Ann Coulter are gonna be soon happy. [Farting sound]
Desantis Stans are grasping at straws, making excuses and trying to justify the actions of the man who they thought was not who he is.
The courage of President Trump is rare indeed. DeSantis was created in the swamp muck and will be beholden to the uniparty king makers.
Assembled enemy MSM panels will speak of how he’s “reasonable” and unlike President Trump knows how to govern “accept bags full of money, keep his mouth shut and doing what you’re told”.
For what its worth President Trump would crush him head to head in a fair vote, “Dominion” couldn’t be reached for comment.
We’ll see.
MAGA! …again.
DeSantis was part of the Swamp before becoming Govenor. He knows the game.
He is not some naive newbie.
Okay, so let’s go down The Globalist Rabbit Hole: who is this Bryan Griffin? And who is Pushaw?
“Griffin, who was hired in March, has taken a similar combative approach. Last week, he published his email response to The View after the morning talk show requested an interview with DeSantis. In the email, Bryan quoted The View hosts’ past statements about DeSantis and questioned whether The View was genuinely in “pursuit of the truth.”
“It has been an honor to work with and learn from (Christina Pushaw). I look forward to serving (Gov. Ron DeSantis) and the people of Florida in this new role. Like Christina did so well, I will ensure the Governor’s message is amplified and that false narratives are debunked,” Griffin tweeted Friday.”
That sounds decent…so far!
“Griffin told Florida Politics he first met Pushaw at the Warsaw Security Forum in 2019, where they were both participants in the forum’s New Security Leaders program.
Smell anything?
What is The Warsaw Security Forum? Go here and you will see the founder Zbigniew Pisarski– not wearing a tie in the Iranian style – and his glowing 30-something blond wife. He has been employed at Harvard and Georgetown Universities.
So…where does he get the money to create an international foundation where GENERAL PETRAEUS is on the board of directors?
Yes, scroll down to see his smiling face! And why is he smiling? Note other One-Worlders as well e.g. Catherine Ashton:
From 2009:
“Herman van Rompuy, Belgian Prime Minister for the past 11 months, had been the favorite to fill the role of President of the Council of Ministers.
Baroness Ashton — Cathy Ashton until she was ennobled by Tony Blair a decade ago — was a decidedly unexpected choice to be the new High Representative for Foreign Affairs.
The appointments are inextricably linked. Van Rompuy is a Christian Democrat from a small country. Hence, according to the innate logic of European integration, the High Representative needed to be a Socialist from a large country.”
Namely, Catherine Ashton, Socialist from England.
https://www.theglobalist.com/lady-ashton-takes-europe/
To return, and digging more deeply, Pisarski is involved in CANPOLAND, which is NOT a Chamber of Commerce “Yes Poland can!” Optimist Club.
From FaceBook:
CanPoland is a pharmaceutical company, producer and distributor of medicinal cannabis as well as provider of repackaging services for paralel (Sic!) import.
THERE is where the money comes from!
Griffin has received multiple undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of Florida, including his law degree in 2013. He also received a masters in international affairs from Columbia University. Past work include his time as national field director for the pro-Israel Maccabee Task Force and as a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research.”
Okay, the former association looks iffy, the latter is a supposedly Conservative “Boutique” think-tank started by an Edward London and currently managed by the “controversial” Anthony Shaffer, who was on the Trump 2020 Campaign staff.
In the middle, The Maccabee Task Force, which “combats anti-Semitism on college campuses.” It is obviously pro-Israel and intends to undo damage done by the pro-Palestinian “Boycott, Divest, and Sanction” (BDS) movement.
So the guy is all over the place! And perhaps he is being “pragmatic” by joining things like The Warsaw Security Forum, getting to know the opposition by rubbing elbows with them.
We shall see!
Wow. Thanks for the info, Ausonius!
I’ve been smelling something for a long time. It has never been a good smell
Nice work
I guess you missed this filmed this week from his “bunker” https://marypatriotnews.com/2022/08/12/ron-desantis-vs-everyone-the-governor-who-broke-the-media-the-glenn-beck-podcast-ep-150-video/
Don’t forget that beck was a Trump hater and was all in for cruz.
Yep, and he is gaslighting his radio listeners as recently as last week, so it’s clear that he’s still anti-Trump. But, we do owe him a huge debt of gratitude for pulling the curtain back on the S0r#s network, and the political Left generally, so just need to be mindful of his preference for the GOPe.
Would NEVER get my vote. I would actually vote for Biden before I gave the GOPe what they want. The message NEEDS to get out there. Don Jr and others MUST be sure the MAGA people know what you have posted here. Many have ZERO clue. Was wondering why Pushaw changed jobs
Pushaw is going to concentrate on the DeSantis presidential campaign. The other guy will handle the Florida stuff.
Why so late in the game? There’s only 4 months to go.
I’m sure Don Jr. will find this out. Don Jr. is the secret weapon. I have my money on him. Expect great things from
Don Jr. in the future.
Trump should just pop into these rallies. PERIOD They CANNOT stop him Charlie Kirk and others have rode the Trump wagon making money hand over fist
Yes, Charlie Kirk and the entire TPUSA crowd are just grifters for the GOPe.
I listen to Charlie Kirk nearly every day and he’s devoted entire hours of his program to condemning this raid in the strongest possible terms.
It’s the policies and money backing Kirk that make him poisonous. Ignore the red meat rhetoric.
Words are cheap.
I’ve seen lots of decepticons being “outraged” and questioning the weaponization of institutions (such as Crenshaw and others like him).
Methinks they just want voters to forget that the knife in their backs has GOPe carved into the handle. Gotta pretend to be outraged so that when the Uniparty effectively removes President Trump from the 2024 landscape, we will ease back into their open arms.
The GOPe wants to capitalize on OUR love of Trump and make no mistake, they’ve got marketing people. Trump empathy from the establishment… such as Faux News… is just an appeal to us, they don’t really mean it and are doing everything they can behind the scenes to make sure 45 is in the rearview.
Just my two cents.
Of course they’re doing that! But it doesn’t matter because you can’t stop it. Our biggest priority is (1) supporting Trump in his campaign to support MAGA candidates, (2) support Trump for the presidency if and when he declares, (3) vote all Dems the hell out of office!
In the event that points 1 and 2 blow up in our faces, to ignore point 3 is just plainly spiteful and stupid, unless your bags are packed and ready to go come Nov. 2024
I agree. We can’t shoot ourselves in the foot. Allowing Dems to continue to hold all of the power and continue to ruin the country just because we’re upset is stupid.
Merkin, watch the TPUSA rallies. I’m willing to bet $$ that they barely mention Trump at all, and that DeSantis won’t mention him at all.
After reading and seeing the actions of DeSantis recently I believe what you say.
The author seems to be terminally cynical. What a depressing piece. Thanks for nothing, Sundance.
Show us where the truth and facts hurt you little guy?
The Crying Corner for Cowards is over there, now you can go and sit in it. 😉
Cry us a river!!
Doors that way, sir. Goodbye.
Please, do not kill the messenger. You may not like his view on DeSantis. I welcome his insight. Sundance makes me see things that are right under my nose. Sundance is doing the heavy-lifting and we here are taking advantage of his insight and now it is our JOB to use his information and educate as many people as we can. We are in a fight for our country and ultimately for OUR LIVES. “None is so blind as he who will not see.” Please sit back, take a few hours, think about what has been presented and then comment.
well, get your head out of the sand and be depressed like many
over the criminal state of the government in our country
I see you can’t take the truth. When that happens there’s no point in reading Sundance any longer. Your mind is closed. Personally, I’d rather understand the nuances of how the GOPe works so I can identify the deception.
You are free to think differently. As long as the basic facts are accurate, I can live with the spin. It’s a point of view.
and what in the way of optimism have you contributed?
“boohoo i want some one who blows smoke”
if you follow the left, you can read whatever good news you want: there is no recession, women(what ever those are) AND men can get pregnant, Trump’s house was never raided, and politicians only do their jobs because they are just SUCH good people (i mean, they put black squares as their profile pictures during the summer of love/2020, for goodness’ sake!)
grow up and realize that happiness and joy in this life isn’t given to you by others. Sundance provides invaluable information and perspective (and mercifully, very little smoke). What you do with it is up to you. Maybe you’re the one that’s terminal.
Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it.
I tend to agree with Bob. Not only do we get articles passing along bad news every day (take it or leave it), now I have to be suspicious of DeSantis. Is no one not a Judas anymore?
I have even considered that DeSantis is not aware of the big picture. Would he know the GOPe were in on or had knowledge of the raid beforehand. Ms. Lindsey sure acts like a guilty sneaky SOB. I do not think all of the Repulican representatives are wise to the GOPe DS mechanisms. Don’t think DeSantis sees the Devil behind the curtain. Actually don’t think he is that smart.
Mr. Sundance,
You have enough power, influence, followers in the State of Florida and around the world, that you could communicate directly with Governor Ron DeSantis – even meet with him in person. You are gifted in in-depth analysis and Trump-like prescience. These come from GOD and were built into you over time, through your passion for truth, your humility to be teachable and willing/wanting to grow and learn. We have rarely seen anyone who puts so much energy and time into research and searching out truth.
Before you write or make an appointment with DeSantis, prepare your ‘Brief’ – lay out your concerns, objections, fears and goals for our State and Nation. Decide what you want to ask him, how you want to confront what you see is wrong, etc.
As you pray, you will have GOD’s inspiration and wisdom in your thoughts and insights about our nation’s political future and be able to state them persuasively.
In DeSantis’ defense – he has shown boldness, initiative, courage and integrity like few other Governors in the USA… Like Palin, Noem, Ivy, Huckabee, even potential AZ Governor Kari Lake – each one, including DeSantis – and even Trump – have human limitations – pros and cons – and will have missteps, mistakes, failures.
It is people like you who will be guardians, mentors, furnish additional wisdom, intel, field/ground reports, etc. to our leaders – including Trump and DeSantis.
We must be sure we don’t idolize, idealize or condemn them for their shortcomings and blind spots, but encourage them as we would want to be encouraged.
Bless you for all you do. Thank you for your hard work, dedication, commitment and faithfulness.
We are counting on you for truth in a time of dangerous, deadly lies and deception.
I agree with your thoughts.
Desantis can’t be trusted he went to Yale and Harvard. Most Likely Skulls and Bones member, who are known for playing both sides of the Presidential picks… (as in they win regardless) in order to hold the reigns of power over the USA and its fiat money printing (Billionaire making machine).
The MAGA facade has been ripped unceremoniously off of desantis’ GOPe substrate ………. not by Sundance, but by desantis’ own treasonous actions this week.
Desantis’ isn’t a MAGA leader………. he is a MAGA traitor.
FULL STOP !!
Shortcomings ? How about EGO .
Trump is not in IT for his ego.
Trump is mega wealthy and has it all. He “made it all” by HIMSELF.
He should be retired and playing golf around the world. He doesn’t NEED this BS.
Trump is the ONLY President who left office poorer than when he started. REMEMBER THIS !
Poison Ivy League DeSantis hasn’t worked a day in his life.
In other words, he is a parasite politician that has ALWAYS lived off the backs of “We The People.”
DeSantis never MADE anything !
What he wants to make is a billion for his so called public service. Just like Obama, Hillary, and Biden.
FACT: DeSantis will leave office RICHER than when he arrived unlike Trump.
DeSantis is a freakin’ LAWYER.
He will never be able to fix the economy like Trump did.
He is not a big thinker.
He is risk averse just like every lawyer. Taking risk is not in his DNA.
Trump MADE DeSantis by endorsing him in the Florida governors primary.
DeSantis was a good 20 points behind the groomed Bushie candidate.
I don’t know about you but I value loyalty.
DeSantis OWES Trump “bigtime.”
Bunker Boy has proved himself to be just another ethically bankrupt lawyer.
The nation is at a precipice. You are either on the MAGA train or on the corrupt gopE train. There is no in between.
No more Battered Conservative Syndrome.
Put on your body armor.
WOLVERINES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually DeSantis actually worked as a school history teacher in 2001-2002. So he has “worked” although never in the private for-profit world.
https://www.darlingtonschool.org/Today/Details/2460189
Good post.
I was wrong about Desantis at this point. The first step in recovery is to admit your problem, Desantis is no Trump. I appreciate the continuing education from Sundance and his staff.
The fact that he went to Yale, tells you everything. CIA, Skull and Bones Recruits always go there….. Their secret plan is to control both sides at the election time, they have been doing this for over 50 years. Meaning they are both Democrat and Republican candidates for Presidency every year. Desantis cannot be trusted to follow through in favor of Trumps and our America. Someone else must run if Trump doesn’t.
Just a very small personal data point – People I know in Chicago who are flaming Leftist Democrats and full on anti-Trumpers, like Ron DeSantis. I know, I was totally shocked. Something is afoot IMHO.
Imagine how many of us felt after voting for Bush II,
the two term plus war, Dick Cheney/Haliburton and many other things.
I get nauseated still just thinking about it.
What really disgusts me are the photos of Bush riding bicycles with
soldiers who lost limbs. What a photo op when his policies when
president are the cause of the injuries.
Sadly in DeSantis case you can;t say he is naive to the ways of the
GOPe he is not some newbie here. He was a REP in Congress so
he is well aware of the game and how it is played.
There is likely another goal with the GOPe here get DeSantis out of
FL so they can put in one of thiers and start ruining FL.
Yes, he knows how to play the game. If we don’t have President Donald J. Trump in 2024…LORD HELP US.
I think about his lack of concern over the vote fraud/machines. The fact that he barely won over that freak should be proof enough. Is he that naive?
Sundance, way to knock another one out of the political analysis stadium. The Republican silence on the FBI raid is truly deafening. 👏
It is actually complicit and shameful!
Desantis is most likely the Skull and Bones (Yale) pick for Republican candidate….. They have been choosing their people for both sides for almost 50 years now. It’s the not so secret secret plan, which is how they control the entire country, our large corporations, etc. They get their people in the Democrat and Republican slot…. then they win Power no matter who wins the presidency.
You’re the best, Sundance. But I think you’re judging DeSantis too cynically, prematurely and harshly.
If the MAGA movement depends entirely on Trump then it cannot last. Like it or not, it will need new leaders over the next few years and DeSantis seems to me to be one of the best candidates.
HA, a few years ago, I would have agreed with you.
However, especially the past several months, has shown everyone the strings on the marionettes.
I am sick to stomach about DeSantis. However, Sundance has taught me to accept things the way they are, NOT the way I wish they were
MAGA lasts if you work from the ground up. Stop looking for one leader king to follow and do your small part on the local level. Trump will be dead and gone 20 years from now and we won’t need another Trump to take his place if we actually fix our election system and make it known how corrupt the people in DC truly are. Still most voters don’t understand how broken their govt is.
Movements NEED leaders. McConnell crushed the Tea Party movement because it had no leader. The MAGA movement has been more successful because it has had an effective leader. But in order to last, a movement cannot be dependent on a single leader. There MUST be some depth of leadership.
If anyone is “looking for one leader king”, it is Sundance. He harshly attacks any potential rivals to Trump and I don’t recall him ever endorsing any alternative even as a second choice.
If there is no viable alternative to Trump then the MAGA movement is already doomed.
Desantis is most likely the Skull and Bones (Yale) pick for Republican candidate….. They have been choosing their people for both sides for almost 50 years now. It’s the not so secret secret plan, which is how they control the entire country, our large corporations, etc. They get their people in the Democrat and Republican slot…. then they win Power no matter who wins the presidency.
Just and FYI Skull and Bones is the deep state.
I have now read your same comment 4 times on this page. What gives?
Dividing trolls, tasting chum in the water. They’re everywhere later in the comment thread.
“seems to be” means you are admitting your don’t know.
You have now been given the facts and you still don’t know.
Sigh
No, I don’t know. Neither do you. And neither does Sundance. He is speculating. His speculation may have some supporting evidence, but it is speculation nonetheless.
Well, when it walks and talks like a duck…….
Amen and thank you.
DeSantis is merely 2016 Ted Cruz 2.0
The corrupt gopE ran this play before. You should recognize it when you see it. Been there done that.
DeSantis is there to split the MAGA movement and make Pence the nominee.
We focus too much on the messenger and too little on the message.
Trump may very well be prevented from running, and DeSantis may very well wind up being co-opted by the GOPe.
But the message and it’s army will find another leader.
DeSantis could tell his club handlers to f off.
If he were a sincere loyal America First MAGA he wouldn’t need their pocketbooks.
PDJT continues to get millions and millions of dollars in donations from small donors. He out performing the RINO wing of the Uniparty from We the Little People. I have a feeling that once you shake hands with the Big Club you do not get to leave.
Amen.
NO WAY JOSE!!!!!!!
“……accepting GOP grooming………” I also want to vomit in disgust. Trump NEVER hid.
I do not doubt you on any of this, Sundance. Follow you on Twitter and was somewhat surprised that you didn’t get much pushback from the DeSantis fanboys. They really are lying low until after the midterms. It will be amusing to watch DeSantis appearances with Lake & Mastriano. Will this be his first trip to a Border state? He sure dropped the Border issue like a hot potato after bloviating about shipping illegals to Delaware.
It will be interesting how his speech compares with Lake.
She is a firebrand and will go and has gone nuclear on the raid.
What will DeSantis say in comparison? I bet it will sound good,
but, to those now in the know (Sundance educated people)
be way short or a little off.
could it be as bad as Cruz at the presidential convention in 2016?
If Trump for any reason doesn’t run seeing DeSantis throw his hat in the ring would not surprise me. If President Trump runs and I’m hoping he does, any primary opponents including DeSantis would be delusional thinking they could steel voters away from Trump. Outside of Trump any (as in all) other candidates would be beholden to the GOPe tentacles to have any chance at winning the primary or the general. That’s why we are loyal to Trump. He’s not owned by foreign, corporate or CoC interests like the GOPe and any of the other electable candidates running.
Desantis is most likely the Skull and Bones (Yale) pick for Republican candidate….. They have been choosing their people for both sides for almost 50 years now. It’s the not so secret secret plan, which is how they control the entire country, our large corporations, etc. They get their people in the Democrat and Republican slot…. then they win Power no matter who wins the presidency.
Just an FYI Skull and Bones is the deep state, Kerry, Bushes, Hunter, etc. etc. I personally know one of the members who happens to be a die hard Democrat Crook/ former politician, he was from my hometown and towed the lines with Billy Boy Blue Dress.
AdRem, can you remove this repetitive post? Thanks, the fourth or fifth time reading it its just annoying.
So we just shut him out. If it wasn’t for Trump, this guy would only be a forgotten footnote in politics because he couldn’t even win his state without a helping hand from the real president.
Yes, loyalty and ethics above pieces of silver should be a major litmus test.
So wouldn’t Kari Lake be a “suspicious cat” with DeSantis swooping in to the picture? How do candidates like her handle this situation?
I think she uses the rally to promote herself for govrnorhschip. The rally is tomorrow. DeSantis is riding high, unexposed, other than by SD. She will benefit by the rally. IMO she would be foolish not to show, along with all the other AF / MAGA candidates 45 endorsed.
After DeSantis rallies are done, 45 should swoop in with rallies for all of them just before the general and push them all to victory. Take the wind out of DeSantis’ sails. It’s his endorsement that matters — not Turning Point or even DeSantis.
Like Einstein’s theories, you present proposals to prove the theories true. Please stay on this and continue to present evidence.
“continue to present evidence.”?
It won’t take you much time, just “back” your desantis’ video to Monday of this week and play the tape through today and see all of his President Trump support statements he made.
Desantis can’t be trusted he went to Yale and Harvard. Most Likely Skulls and Bones, who are known for playing both sides of the Presidential picks… in order to hold the reigns of power over the USA and its fiat money printing (Billionaire making machine).
Enough already!
Forewarned is fore armed.
The insurgency* is taking notice.
Perhaps first in disbelief, but later with cool demeanor.
TPUSA and DeSantis co-opted by the Dark Side. Shameful.
*Poster Dutchman laid out in an August 1 comment what it takes to be an insurgent.
It is one of THE BEST comments I’ve read here. Perhaps it can be posted again. (I’ll send a copy in).
The grassroots would benefit from the reading and understanding what Dutchman wrote.
Jeb was very well liked as governor of Florida as well.
Wasn’t until 2016 that we got to truly understand what their family was made of.
Skull and Bones…. where did Desantis go to school again, oh Yale. (Skull and Bones)
and aren’t we fortunate to know now?
All I know is that about 18 months ago there was an alleged list of China’s favored governors floating around and Ron DeSantis’ name was number one.
DeSantis was not on that list, although he could be potentially added to it soon considering that his richest backer (Elon Musk) is a big fan of the CCP.
There’s truly only one DJT and he sincerely cared about America from the bottom of his heart…Nobody managed him in that respect…No one had to. Love of country was natural for him. It’s why we love him, . Even with his quirks.
And what do we do if Trump doesn’t run ???
There is no one?
Well, we can work with “no one”, we certainly don’t need to settle for a “known one” of the GOPe.
Besides, President Trump is running circles around the “gang that couldn’t cheat straight.”
Donate to him, not the GOPe, and support and vote for the candidates he endorses.
He isn’t coming back because he never left…….. he won, after all.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
I nominate Steve Bannon or Stephen Miller !
“Its not DeSantis fault per se” Au contraire!
Selling one’s soul is always one’s own fault, no blame
goes to anyone else.
He doesn’t have his own money. Neither did many
who managed on small donations instead of huge
corporate donations from those in the “club”.
President Trump brought him over the finish line
to be governor.
Now he betrays. BTW, how many pieces of silver?
I understand and share Sundance’s cynicism as his foresight is unmatched, but the DeSantis situation is to be monitored, not outright dismissed, imo.
DeSantis needs to get re-elected to maintain any political viability going forward. He seems to have that locked up. He also knows that he needs more national exposure.
Trump’s eligibility for 2024 aside, and assuming he is in the running, DeSantis’ move will reveal all. If he runs against Trump in the primary, then all doubt whether Sundance was correct will have been removed.
If not, then the situation needs to be monitored further still.
If the MAGA movement starts and ends with Trump alone, then all is already lost, no?
As you said, DeSantis is not a wealthy person. He needs backing and donors, but I think you underestimate his honesty.
He has been almost pitch perfect, in words and deeds. He’s the best governor in the country. I don’t think he will turn into a RINO.
Of course time will tell, but for now, I think what’s going on is mutually beneficial to all Republicans involved.
DeSantis is my governor.
He NEVER would have won the Florida primary for governor without Trump’s endorsement.
Loyalty means something to me.
If DeSantis can screw Trump he has absolutely no problem screwing you.
Facts are stubborn things.
I always said DeSantis needed another term to solidify his conservative positions, when other said he’d be a good veep for President Trump. I am really disappointed at this move. Et tu?
Kinda like Pence?
Only voting Trump
I agree with you… the ONLY one I actually trust is DJT…all others need to show me with deeds to gain my trust..DJT has done that for me since first debate when answered M Kelly’s first question..
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I’m not sure what DeSantis has done to deserve this. Not my state, so really don’t follow his politics. My understanding is DeSantis has been a God send for the state and has attracted many to move to Florida. A concise list of misdeeds would be nice for me to fact check besides an opinion that he didn’t say enough about Trump’s FBI raid.
It’s a ‘Uni- tofer’.
By controlling DeSantis, (who can never win against Trump), the end result, is weakening His home base support, along with MAGA voters country wide.
2. They sink Florida from its conservatism.
So in the end, the UniParty is using a neutered DeSantis, against Trump, going full throttle, for full control.
Thank you Sundance. My skillset of connecting dots and sniffing out the b.s. continues to strengthen, by endlessly challenging my critical thinking cababilities .
Woke up to this post. “Bunker boy..”? SMH…
A LOT of people here were asking for a Trump/DeSantis ticket. I remained quiet on that because it could never happen. I read the 12th Amendment. You all should read it too.
Sad morning for me. Never expected SD to pull the knives out on our great Governor.
What is so great about my ethically bankrupt governor?
So loyalty doesn’t mean anything to you ?
You will just sit back and humbly thank DeSantis when he screws you like he screwed Trump.
If you are a Floridian you know damn well that DeSantis NEVER would have won the primary without Trump’s endorsement.
I’m done pretending I didn’t see what I saw.
You are so right buddy boy. Political loyalty means nothing to me, and you can take that to the bank.
I am an individual and I call them as I seem them. I don’t blindly subscribe to other people’s thoughts. Never have never will.
I research everything myself looking for holes in arguments. That’s my mission in life. I never blindly follow like sheep.
And lastly, I’m not one to ever try to change peoples minds. They have to do that on their own.
Are you supportive of DeSantis:
Yes or no will suffice for each line item. Thank you.
DeSantis has been incredible as governor in Florida. Best GOP governor in years. He is like Trump in that he doesn’t give a flip what the media thinks. I’m really hoping this isn’t happening because we need Republicans like this.
Best governor in my 50 years in Fl.
While we’re here throwing farts at the Moon, how about this one?
What if DeSantis called Trump that same day while the raid was going down and asked:
”Donald, what can I’d do to help?”
And Trump responded:
”Ron, thank you but stay away. You’re too valuable to get in front of the crosshairs. I’ll take care of this….”
Nice daydream.
What about if on January 6 Pence called Trump and said ”Donald, what can I’d do to help?”
And Trump responded:
”Mike, thank you but do nothing. You’re too valuable to get in front of the crosshairs. I’ll take care of this….
Exactly!
The point was, you don’t know what you don’t know. And going off full throttle without all the answers can be fatal.No, we do know.
We’ve seen it all before.
WE can write the book.
DeSantis is my governor. And he should remain my governor.
The people that Trump endorses should become his army.
That is how it is done.
Did he?
Not Desantis’ fault per se? I disagree. This is 11o% his fault. The MAL raid was pretty bad timing for Ron wouldn’t you say? It forced him out of his hidey hole a little early.
I heard Florida has “Don’t tread on me license plates”. Someone needs to ask DeSantis if he really believes it
So, I guess we’re moving on now? Something akin to pulling the rug. Apparantly, they all think DJT will be arrested and later barred from running. I can’t believe this is happening, but in the same light, I’m not surprised.
The establishment Republicans are in on this 3rd hoax, why would you expect them not to think they have finally boxed PDJT in?
I’ve been cussed from one forum to another for point out over and over again that DeSantis is another Brown and Brown, CFR, Chamber of Commerce, Club for Growth, Koch supported Republican…
He is nothing more than another Rick Scott / Marc Rubio Trojan horse.
Republican cheerleaders and the confirmation bias makes these POLITICIANS into Christ like figures.
It’s tricky seeing sooner rather than later that you’re being played, manipulated, farmed or hustled by politicians, lovers, vendors, you name it, some of whom you really liked and in some cases have known for years, sometimes even decades.
+/- 12-15 years ago (man time flys) I think it was Lucianne Goldberg herself who launched me from the Goldberg site for I suspect explicitly writing Bush II was a uni-party whore, although I didn’t use the word uni-party because it hadn’t been coined yet or I hadn’t yet heard it.
It was a good thing I lurked there though for a spell.
It was reading a Camile Pagllia piece there where I learned of the CTH.
Sundance, I’m guessing theres no way to use the system and still be your own man?
It’s starting to look as though DeSantis is a new type of hybrid-Decepticon, one that can mimic MAGA and PDJT at will. This is not too far removed from when Harry Reid admired how Barack Obama did not talk like a negro, unless he wanted to – the perfect manchurian candidate in his eyes. Establishment Republicans have groomed manchurian candidates before, e.g John McCain. Under pressure though, they break down and revert to their programming.
DeSantis is warrior on Social Issues such as Disney, teaching sexual perversion to children, and taking on CRT. It is the same way the democrats rally their base with their Social Issues such as Roe v. Wade, transgender rights, gay rights, women’s rights, allowing poor people who just want a better life to enter our country illegally, anti-gun, pro drugs, and anti-white. They never really try to attract voters to their cause by talking about horrible trade deals, crooked bureaucrats, cutting the bureaucracies, economic enemies, and America First. That is how they have divided the electorate. Pick what is socially important to you and go vote for that side of the Uniparty Team.
DeSantis would not be the first promising politician ruined by establishment Republicans. Remember, Mitch McConnell prefers to be minority leader – it’s easier to sell cloture votes than buy them.
Tea party 2.0… there is nothing new about this.
Republicans follow politics like religion and many of them can’t see beyond their own confirmation bias.
Consider for the last 80+ years, every two years the party manages to lead their masses into the polls and believe in their vote.
Like getting the jab, the act of doing it pretty much means you can’t mentally get out of the commitment you made.
God Bless Gov. Ron DeSantis a great leader and the Best Governor in my life time and I’m 75 years old. As for all you internet warriors STFU. How soon you turn !!!!!!
What DeSantis has done as Gov of FL, which is awesome, cannot be replicated at the Federal level. In fairness though, early on the establishment Republicans tried the same tactics with PDJT, but he had his own $$$ and could say ‘NO’. DeSantis can’t really do that, although I hope he will.
Let me take a guess: YOU VOTED FOR ROMNEY.
Excuse me being brutally freak but you can fix stupid.
I’ve liked that DeSantis uses “the Regime” and “Bio-Medical Security State”. But he wouldn’t speak to this Constitutional Crime Wave on his official Governor’s account nor would he speak Actual President Trump’s name. I see exactly what Sundance is talking about.
This nation needs leadership, true leadership and moral clarity– not ambition, positioning and machine politics, even conservative-flavored.
Playing it safe is what got us here.
Yes. This is where you have to take a stand.
While it would take some work the Gov. could find other means of funding, or not.
At this point does he really need that much?
He’s evidently not Statesman material.
His flaccid response to the raid on a former President and the circumstances surrounding the raid is a major red-flag as far as who/what Gov. DeSantis really is.
Agree!
These are the posts that make me doubt other posts.
Ignore the evidence that’s been presented along with the historical record of GOPe “recruiting methods” at your own peril. Sundance has been exposing GOP perfidy for over a decade.
GOPe is trying to destroy MAGA because it interferes with their extremely lucrative Grift, which is the same reason they purposefully derailed the Tea Party 10 years ago.
If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
It’s too bad, he had a great future in front of him.
Liberty in Americs is one 76-year-old away from vanishing altogether, and that’s if you can choose not to take too deep a dive on Op Warp Speed.
And who dares deep dive on that myocarditis hellhole for fear of losing the only tantalizing prospect out of our predicament?
How the ‘greatest nation in the world’ finds itself in such slim straits really puts that self-congratulatory appellation under the microscope.
Greatest how? Teeth? Nah. Apparently Mexico’s overtaken us in the chompers department.
One could hope for infiltration…….
I don’t understand the sudden vilification of DeSantis here and believe it to be a mistake. Perhaps it has not occurred to many Trump supporters that the raid on Mar a Lago is designed to prompt the sort of reaction evidenced here—to make Trump out to be a martyr and ensure that he is the candidate in 2024, because, they believe, he is the only candidate they have a chance at beating in 2024.
Respectfully, at this point, your words smack of, “Trust the plan.”, and we all know how that worked out.
It’s hard to read this cynical review of DeSantis THIS WEEK.
DeSantis has been very, very good for years. Taking positions which lead others.
It’s no surprise he is Trump’s replacement.
Time will tell when that is.
PS I supported Trump policies 100%, still do. And yes, he would win a Primary. But many are concerned about his ability to govern with all the baggage he is carrying now.
And, maybe more importantly, who would work for him knowing they would be targeted later?