Bunker boy Ron DeSantis has completed five days of silence and is scheduled to re-emerge tomorrow in Arizona as part of the TPUSA national tour. Those of you who have walked the deep weeds of national politics, know exactly what is happening. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has entered the managing phase of the GOPe candidate process.
[The TLDR version is HERE] – The well-liked Florida Governor has remained silent and invisible for five days, ever since the FBI raid against President Trump at Mar-a-Lago, in West Palm Beach, Florida. {Go Deep} The governor of the state has said nothing and avoided any opportunity where he may have been asked for comment. Instead, he has transmitted two pre-recorded statements from the bunker.
The silence is deafening transparency for those who accept how the professional republican club operates; the key word is “accept.” Unfortunately, there is a jaw-dropping amount of denial. We are seeing the outcome of Ron DeSantis being professionally managed by the GOPe club.
Now we move into the phase of re-branding where risks are mitigated, and positions are modified. Earlier today, while still in the bunker, DeSantis’ press secretary Christina Pushaw announced her exit.
As the rebranding takes shape, Ms. Pushaw is now moved away from the principle (that’s Ron) and becomes a part of the campaign team.
(FLORIDA) – Christina Pushaw, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Press Secretary, departed her administrative role Friday to join the Republican Governor’s re-election campaign.
The Florida Standard, a conservative new media outlet, was the first to report Pushaw’s shuffle and published her resignation letter, which Pushaw sent to Chief of Staff James Uthmeier and Director of Administration Dawn Hanson on Friday. She will become the campaign’s Director of Rapid Response beginning Monday.
Deputy Press Secretary Bryan Griffin will step in as lead Press Secretary on Monday, where he will report directly to Communications Director Taryn Fenske. (more)
DeSantis has no primary challenger, so the club timing right on schedule. He emerges from the bunker with a few weeks to break in the new alliance, new team, new campaign motive and new brand image. Bold becomes pastel. Tomorrow the GOPe club kick-off the relaunch through the aligned TPUSA organization, which they have now taken control by purchasing Charlie Kirk. Remember, in club politics it’s the money that changes things.
The script will follow the customary mapping. DeSantis will start a national enhanced branding effort, increased exposure to unfamiliar audiences, and simultaneously absorb the MAGA aspect the GOPe need. MAGA bona fides will come from appearances with names like Kari Lake and Blake Masters, under the auspices of endorsements.
On its face, it is supposed to look like DeSantis is endorsing Kari Lake and Blake Masters, two strong MAGA candidates. However, the actual club motive is to transfer the MAGA currency of Lake and Masters into the pocket of DeSantis.
The club gets much more out of it than Lake or Masters. The club gets the stealth benefits that people never pay attention to. This is part of the brand image for DeSantis and club strategy.
Whether Ron DeSantis knew of the DC/FBI targeting effort before Monday is a moot point. What DeSantis did know was that this week a new branding effort would begin. It started with the “Dear Governor DeSantis” commercials. The subtle shift is to nudge him out of Florida politics into a more prominent national role
All of this is coordinated by the national club. Nothing is just random, but the presentation to the voters must retain the illusion of choice.
Everything now is about club branding and club management. That’s why I knew four days ago that Pushaw would depart, and I started to deliver statements on Twitter toward that end. Many people became upset. However, I do not take such a severe position, as I did on Monday, without overlaying all of the data-points we have assembled. I know it sometimes shocks people, they get mad at me, but as you watch it you will see it unfold. This is simply how the club operates.
It’s not DeSantis fault per se’. He doesn’t really have many options. He holds no independent wealth to keep the club away from influence.
DeSantis is being managed now. He’s shifted into the Pence, Jeb, Haley, professional wing of the club. Things change. He’s accepting GOPe grooming (bunker silence). Simultaneously risks are distanced (Pushaw departs official orbit), proximity mitigation. It really is just a mgmt/branding effort.
Now he will begin a national tour. A book (written for him) is looming. The pattern never changes.
The “professionals” will now enter the picture. The orbit of DeSantis will be more controlled. Representatives will come from the professional political class. Speeches and remarks will be filtered and approved. Risks will be mitigated. Control mechanisms in place. However, the illusion of authenticity must be retained. This is the club weak point (see Cruz and Haley). This is what the club will try to modify with DeSantis and Kristi Noem.
At first, whenever DeSantis reemerges – likely tomorrow, you will notice a subtle shift, perhaps an awkwardness. A slight change in the authenticity you used to love. A more careful and deliberate speech pattern. Longer thoughts before responses. More appearances on Fox News. Brett Baier et al, w/ the assist.
The technique is Norman Rockwell (optics) and Ward Cleaver (tones), soft hues and gentlemanly pastels.
Club branding is subtle on the image front, but very clear on the substantive messaging side. Social issues selected to maximize camp coalition, and influence base.
Consistently present political messaging where the republican voter base can say “yes.” Keep the “yes” messaging at the forefront (social emphasis). Focus on values. Schools, kids, safety, woke pushback, media bias etc, keep the audiences nodding yes. Ultimately, it’s a sales technique. Identify with the target to influence their decisions.
Issues around multinational & corporate economics, hard lines, foreign policy, all these things must be avoided – except in general terms. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not to be challenged, not really. Keep the message social and build the emotional connection. It is harder to break an emotional bond than a logical or cognitive bond.
These are the political techniques of Lee Atwater that still make up the bulk of the GOPe club playbook. The greatest skill of the professionally republican is to present the illusion of choice in such a way as the voters do not see it.
Keep in mind, back in Washington DC both clubs are collaborating on the Trump removal program because both clubs’ benefit.
If we watch closely, we will see a MAGA-lite, professionally controlled republican go from five-days as a pupa (now) to chrysalis (next), to national club butterfly.
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Hi Karl.
I see it, and always saw it clearly. DeSantis should have stayed away from his mirror. He practiced being Trump like a kid with a microphone pretending to be a star. I hope he likes his reflection, because I don’t. Copycats are two a penny.
You betcha.! You have me convinced about his motives. Amen.
Well if Randy don’t like him, I don’t neither.
I realise you may have been ‘being humorous’ or not, but let me take it seriously, and suggest;
No, no NO!
You do NOT vote or donate to a candidate, because you “like” them,…
POLiticas is about Public POLicy, thats why they have the same root, “POL”.
Politicians need to be selected NOT on appearance, OR demeanor, per se.
And NOT because somebody else, ANYBODY else likes, reccomends or endorses them.
Thats “farming out” you responsubility and sacred duty of voting, its “phoning it in”.
WHAT Public Policies are they advocating, and DO YOU BELIEVE them?
If you don’t believe them, then it really doesn’t matter what policies they adbvocate.If you DO believe them, then do you agree with their policy positions.
Fortunately, if you believe in America First, its pretty easy, does the Candidate you are considering, and that you BELIEVE, advocate America First policies;
finish the wall, seal the border.
Parental rights/school choice.
Energy Independance, drill baby drill.
NO public health mandates
And, of coarse the BIG one,…2020 election was STOLEN, and hence election integrity;
Voter I.D. with Citisenship verification.
NO Machines, paper ballots, one day vote, no stopping count till a winner.
Posting on election night total ballots recieved.
Are they MAGA, or anything else. Vote MAGA, anything else is a phony choice between having your throat slit, or being stabbed in the back, ant thru the heart.
IMHO
That I can tell, DeSantis has done NOTHING about the 2020 election theft. He hasn’t done any recounts, hasn’t even suggested them. And he SHOULD. It would be easy for him to do this….but it doesn’t look like he’s the least bit interested.
You know I have said the same. I even called his office and left message. The State of Texas did
a recount.
When I say I like Gov. DeSantis, I mean I believe in his policies and demeanor.
I think that use of like is pretty common.
That being said, it’s better to be more explicit then saying like.
I like everything you wrote; I believe it to be true.
I’m going to be more explicit in what I mean where I intend to say like.
Just like the word interested.
You hit all the right spots 🙂
Desantis future if he goes the path Sundance outlines is to become the next Rebecca Kleefisch. She went with being handled rebranding and got destroyed in the Wisconsin primaries.
His career will be over. I do not think the rebranding trick is going to work.
Also I am staying with Trump no Trump in 2024 then they get no support.
I’m probably like you.
I want to make that same kind of statement, but the prospect of 4 more years of Dem presidency after 4 years of ruinous Biden presidency is more than I can bear. I’ll vote for any Republican for President just to keep a Dem from winning and I beg others to do the same. If you don’t vote you just hurt yourself and all of the rest of us. We cannot have back-to-back Dem presidencies or we will be worse than Venezuela.
I only Vote if the are Trumpian in action, thought, and deed. If it is all one club then it does not mater if its Club Dem or Club republican.
Hell they impeached the man twice while republicans where a majority!
Look at what the Republicans did to the man killing Healthcare reform and denying him recces appointments, a budget. They fought him every step of the way on his foreign policy Republicans where doing that.
I will vote against the Club from now on no nose holding for me. I remember Session cowardice, McCain’s thumbs down, McConnell smirk. If that means a minority and suffering in order to burn the club out of the Republican party then fine.
If you hadn’t noticed Mconnel is not fighting it becoming Venezuela. He is negotiating the surrender price so he can retire in wealth and relaxion while you and me fight for the loaf of old bread.
Sundance posts a picture of a large city with wall and slums outside choice is coming live in the city by their rules or outside of it.
Your Choice. I have made mine.
“If you hadn’t noticed McConnell is not fighting it becoming Venezuela. He is negotiating the surrender price so he can retire in wealth and relaxion while you and me fight for the loaf of old bread.” YUP! The CCP has already buttered his bread. And now, he hopes to gather a few more crumbs from the table while the “get’n is still good”.
Bravo! Damn well said!
Although I agree with ashadow and can understand his or her’s feelings of betrayal and frustration in elections.
But giving up isn’t the answer.
The way they have treated Trump for years has made me much more resolute.
We are awake now. DeSantis, if he decides to run in 2024, will be destroyed. If he decides to remain in the GOPe camp, and runs in 2028, he will be destroyed.
I will write his name in.
Burning slower only hurts more. You have t0, as in must know that there is no point in slowing the decline. Turn it 180, or give it a push to go faster. There is no middle ground.
RINOS merely mean slower decline, but decline is all they offer.
“I’ll vote for any Republican for President just to keep a Dem from winning and I beg others to do the same.”
And they know that, which is why they destroy Trump by any means, even Banana Republic ones which along with everything else WE here know, clearly shows we are long, LONG past saving as a Republic.
It’s an oligarchy with the facade of voter control and has been for a very long time:
Plumbing the Depths
How the Gears Turn
FRED REED • MARCH 9, 2008
This first appeared in shorter form in The American Conservative
https://www.unz.com/freed/plumbing-the-depths-386/
Common delusions notwithstanding, the United States, I submit, is not a democracy—by which is meant a system in which the will of the people prevails. Rather it is a curious mechanism artfully designed to circumvent the will of the people while appearing to be democratic. Several mechanisms accomplish this. [he details nine]
Let me put it this way: If the establishment gets their way, Venezuela is inevitable; dystopia is inevitable. All we will be doing is splitting hairs over precisely how soon we fall.
I am just waiting to see, if the Midterms take place. The Communist Regime doesn’t plan on giving up power that
they stole from the American People on Nov 3, 2020. Have they taken out the Dominion Machines? The Leftists
made sure they got that gun legislation passed with the Rhinos. All these Acts being passed and has the
schools secured their classrooms. Where does all that money come from and who does it really go to?
I’m with you.
Agree. Too bad.
If Trump is not the candidate, then there won’t be a very big turnout and that makes it easier for the commies to steal another election.
Write his name in.
Let’s assume the worst and President Trump is not in the picture in 2024. What are we supposed to do? Hold our nose and pull the lever for the club pick and go back to the same old ways? Somehow the Republican base must show our disgust. I changed my voter registration to Independent after the 2020 mess. If the GOPe lost 90% of their registered voters…that might send a message.
We can’t have a Dem President again so hopefully someone good will surface.
👉 That “someone” is already here. President Donald J Trump. 👈
Sorry, I meant if Trump doesn’t run. Trust me, I’m PRAYING that Trump runs.
IMHO, PDJT is building an ‘officer corp’ for his MAGA army.
Thats why he has begun to endorse, for instance the MAGA Candidate for Superintendant of Public Instruction in Az; she has a good shot to be his second term Secretary of Education, as he rolls out Nationwide School choice.
And tomorrow, we will see KL on stage with Ron Desantis, SUPER MAGA Kari Lake, next to Corporate RINO Ron Desantis.
He will NOT say the 2020 election was stolen, KL won’t stop talking about it.
He will NOT talk about ending mandates, KL already has.
KL had those GOPe consultants interview with her, when she began her campaign.
They told her DO NOT talk about the 2020 election, and DO NOT talk about COVID. She did NOT hire them.
Obviously we will see, tomorrow but I think its a foregone conclusion those are Rons advisors.
KL is the obvious future of the MAGA movement, and the presumptive VP in 2024, whether she wins in November (praying) or has yet another common experience with PDJT, in having a General election stolen from her.
Both Ron and Kari are currently running for 4 year commitments to a Governorship in their States. Both would be looked upon with distrust if they run for higher office the minute they get elected or re-elected as Governor. Kari has a lot of work to do in AZ and we in FL like the job Ron is doing for us. But I’m sure both States’ voters will be very dubious about someone who asks for your vote now just to leave you in the lurch and have no time to do the job voters entrusted them with.
I would certainly lose all respect for them if they prematurely try to seize the ultimate prize by stabbing their voters in the back. Both are young enough to further build their reputations as leaders before vying for a higher office.
IMHO
I wonder how many people in Florida would vote for him in Presidential election?
It was President Trump who carried him across the line to win Florida.
If I lived on Florida I would be really peeved-especially if he ran against President Trump.
Does he really think he would have even a smidgen of a chance?
Or are people like Karl and the swamp confident they will be able to take out Trump one-way or another
News for them. 2024–if Trump is not on ballot…I will write his name in.
Absent another true MAGA choice, so will I write in the name Trump.
Ron DeSantis will stand back and let Kari Lake speak AF, MAGA.
He’ll pretend he is, by his proximity.
I like Ron DeSantis as gov of Florida. But I have never trusted him as a national figure because he has never one time said 2020 was stolen.
FL went for President Trump, so it was easy for DeSantis to hide behind that.
“someone good will surface” will just slow down the decline as we have seen for many years.
The good that surfaced came down an escalator in 2016. I will vote for nobody else.
Indeed.
If, Heaven forbid, PDJT is kept out of the contest, then it’s all about destroying the Uniparty ghouls that did it.
Lesser evils may find themselves hardest hit.
Exactly 💯
What party affiliation will have little to no impact on the final outcome.
I will NEVER hold my nose and vote again! EVER!
The snake you see is better than the one you don’t see!
To the flailing “hold yer nose” crowd, …
The Az Republican party just voted to censure the County Recorder that was responsible for that voter suppression effort of few Republican ballots in Pinal and Pima counties, and then he was fired.
The Az Republican party just voted to censure a member of the County Board of Supervisors.
Yes, THAT board who obstructed the audit.
The board members name is Bill Gates, yes REALLY and he was censured because after the primary he said;
“These MAGA candidates winning the primaries is a DISASTER! WE have to make sure their Democrat opponents win in November!”
THESE are the kind of Republicans we are supposed to “hold our nose” and vote for,…..
Because the Democrat is WORSE???
“But, we HAVE to get a majority in House and Senate in November!”
By which they mean R’S, regardless whether they are RINO or MAGA and they really don’t mean MAGA, as Bill Gates said.
THEY are perfectly happy to give the office to a Dem, in order to keep a MAGA out, but we are supposed to reward these traitors for stealing elections from MAGA?
ALABAMA, ARIZONA and may other states, we have seen them use splitters in the primaries, Manufactured Oct surprises, massive funding to RINO candidates, but withholding funding the MAGA Candidate is entitled to after the primary,…
There will be NO SUBSTANTIVE difference, regardless whether its a D flag or an R flag, flying over the Capital bldg.
Frankly, the last two years of all three houses has severely damaged the D “brand”, and it has also severely damaged the R brand, exposing their perfidy.
If the R flag flies over one or both houses, the Rinos will use the next two years, to try to polish their brand, for “the base”, without actually DOING an F’ing thing.
Right now its like there is a yuge dam, like Hoover dam.
Its holding back a gazzilion acre feet of water (the MAGA movement) but the dam has holes in it and is leaking.
Swamprats in Congress, both D and R are hanging from ropes, on the dry side, and using every available appendage to plug the leaks.
But true MAGA members, though few are also hanging over the side from ropes, with drills, boring holes.
One MAGA Candidate, like MTG, etc. can drill more holes than they can plug.
Vote MAGA, or nothing.
DO NOT HOLD YOUR NOSE, ANY MORE
That is a failed voting strategy, has never worked, will never work.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
I held my nose to vote for Bush I and then again for Bush II and then again for McCain. I will never do it again. Romney: I decided that even holding my nose, I could never stand the stench.
This is the precipice that Sundance is trying to open our eyes to.
Without Trump, freemen do not get another chance.
The trajectory of America’s death march would have remained the essentially same whether the Club had placed Jeb or Hillary. The gallows still have our names on them whether they appoint de Santis, or a donkey to lead the death march in 2024.
Exactly.
This isn’t a hill…we are at the precipice (Sundance)
If they are successful in the 2020 coup, and successful with the plan to
cancel President Trump, what makes anyone think there could be another
candidate that would be allowed to run and win, if not establishment?
Respectfully, bad choice.
By registering Indie, you can’t vote in Republican primaries, and you can’t vote in State Republican party elections for officers, and THAT is where the MAGA vs RINO battle is being waged, and where we have the advantage of #’s, but only if we USE it.
You are a conscientious objector, removing yourself from the battlefield.
But I’m in CA, so it really doesn’t matter here as we have jungle primaries and can still vote for Republicans, not that they are worth anything here…definitely not MAGA even though my district voted for Trump.
Dutchman….
I am in AZ. January 6th I changed to PND. Party No Designation. Our term for Independent.
I voted for Kari. Blake and Abe, etc . I will vote for them again November 8th.
Independents CAN vote in primary elections in Arizona.
I had to choose what ballot I wanted -Republican or Democrat.
I was told..oh no you can’t do that–you won’t be able to vote in Primary elections.
Thankfully I did my own research.
I advise everyone to do their research and see what the laws are in their State.
I would not be too quick to throw DeSantis under the bus. I think the commies in the uniparty are going to make sure President. Trump is NOT the Republican nominee. The R party is a private game and they control the whole process of who is the nominee.
We are 2 years and 2 months away from the POTUS election. In politics, that is an eternity.
I am convinced that President. Trump is going to be charged and convicted of serious felonies by a DC kangaroo court. Once he is charged, he will be released on a ten million dollar bail and deemed a flight risk by the commie judge. As part of his bail, he will not be allowed to leave the state of Florida. That will put an end to his rallies and his campaigns for himself and other MAGA candidates.
Call me crazy, but by now we should know the commie uniparty is not going to let Trump anywhere near the WH.
SO, I would not be too quick to throw Desantis under the bus. Who else do we have?
The lying weasels, Garland and Wray did not execute a search warrant on an Ex.President’s residence just for giggles. That action was unprecedented and was done to criminally charge Trump with some crime. And now they are talking Nuclear classified BS. That’s serious chit and tells me, they are playing foe keeps. Something BIG is in the works by the commies.
His rallies could be held via many large screens where he’d appear bigger than life. We’d attend. Nothing will stop this movement.
Lol so let me get this straight..
“The R party is a private game and they control the whole process of who is the nominee”
And they are clearly building up Desantis to be their controlled puppet nominee….. but we shouldn’t throw him under the bus because he (WHO THEY PICKED OUT FOR US) is all we have???
Honey, just keep watching Brett Baier and Hannity every night – be sure to keep us updated !
Honey, I never watch any crap on any TV. Sorry, you will have to get someone else to keep you updated.
But, I will bet you $100 dollars that Trump will not be the R POTUS nominee. Loser donates $100 to CTH.
NO MATTER WHO THE NOMINEE IS, in 2024, it will be who the GOPe chooses, and it will not be Trump. Too bad for us.
Trump should have started a new party. They would still have gone after him, but at least he would have been in charge of the party.
And bless your heart. Please tell me the real deal MAGA candidate who you think the R party will allow to be the R POTUS nominee. They were caught off guard by Trump, thank goodness, but that won’t happen again.
President Trump should have………blah, blah, blah!
I will say again.
No matter what the circumstances.
November 2024.
If he is not on the ballot- I will write his name in.
And urge family and friends to do the same.
You could always write in Donald John Trump
We are I guess lucky that Mar a Lago is in Florida. Hopefully decerning people will realize DeSantis absence during this week of intense which side are you on and he came up lacking.
The GOPricks realized with those polls everyone except DeSantis and Trump were in single digits for POTUS. Pence, Haley, etc would be dead weight. GOPricks/Mitch love to lose, but just barely so their troops can be sold to the highest bidder. But they don’t want to lose by so much that basically they are like GOPricks in California. Dems can do everything without them. The GOPe would lose all streams of graft. They realized Pence and Haley would lose by so much the Senate would be at least 60 dems. Their only choice is DeSantis.
Would I vote for DeSantis if he is nominated? I don’t know.
If the alternative is a Dem being President again, which I think I can’t stomach, I’ll vote for any Republican (and barf all over my ballot)
Not me. I’ll write in Trump.
The premise is rediculous.
They can not stop him.
not me … with the Democrats you AT LEAST know where they are taking the country and you can prepare With the GOPe you have ZERO clue
I registered INDY just so I can screw them
” I don’t know.”?
After you have seen him double cross President Trump?
Wow.
I’d rather have any Republican as President than any Democrat. I cannot survive another 4 years of Dems ruining things.
Yeah, its been so much worse than when Republicans were running things. I have such fond memories of the McConnel-Boehner-Ryan years.
Our country couldn’t survive either.
MaineCoon…I agree with you.
The GOP has betrayed us too many times. Tea party is one example.
They betrayed President Trump over and over.
They knew what would happen when they didn’t stand by President Trump in 2020 when the election was stolen.
They knew what the Biden and kiddos had in store for destroying us.
And they allowed…and were complicit in the fraud.
Their lack of support said it all.
So the choice is –
Let the Democrats continue to destroy us.
Or let the Republicans continue to destroy us.
I will write Trump on my ballot no matter what the circumstances.
My only hope is my State and Local government.
You’ve said the same thing five times. We get it.
and so what if she said it 100 times. Are you the board police????
Some things are worth repeating.
You made a single comment in this entire 5 page (so far) comment section, and it was to criticize me?
What’s your plan? Be constructive. Complaining is so last election cycle. Present your ideas how things can be made better.
First off, we are ‘falling for’ the con, of focusing on National office, to the exclusion of STATE offices.
Beyond that, I take a different view on Mitchs desire to keep it close to 50/50.
He is the main one, maintaining this illusion of a two party system.
When he is in the minority, there is no risk of events (votes in Congress) exposing that he and the Decepticons are enabling the Dems.
They can get soundbites, and only a few need to vote with the Dems.
The rest, knowing their votes don’t effect the outcome, can vote no and burnish their phony image.
When Mitch is majority leader, and legislstion he doesn’t want to pass, but is forced to put up for a vote to maintain the illusion comes to a vote, he uses his squishy votes.
His biggest nightmares; a 60 seat majority, or ending the Fillibuster.
Either would put him in a position of passing legislation he is adamsntly opposed to (Obamacare repeal, Border wall, etc) or exposing the Uniparty for all to see.
Kirsten and Washisname, with their little two step, weren’t actually blocking passage of BBB, notice its right back.
In its first iteration, it was the shiny object to distract from the fillibuster rule repeal, that they ALSO blocked.
THAT was the REAL purpose of the excercise.
As part of the D vs R illusion, D’s should have wanted to repeal fillibuster, so they could ram thru whatever they wanted.
Knowing the Majority would flip back to R, there is no way that Schumer or McConnell wanted a R majority, and no fillibuster rule; R’s not ramming through all the legislation we want, in those circumstances would expose the R vs D con.
Their problem is, the cats out of the bag, and we are onto them. “and we won’t be fooled, agaaaiiiin!
Dutchman, you are correct. The Rs & Ds orchestrate their moves carefully to keep up the illusion the people have a say in governance.
I have been on to their game for at least 20 years not because I’m that smart, but because I’ve paid attention to the voting patterns. This is also why the republicans we elect based on their promises never get anything accomplished. The leadership controls who will or will not support certain bills based on their vulnerability in the next election. You can easily see it play out if you pay attention.
Many people are not fooled anymore. The question is what can we do about it? They don’t care that we know. They keep getting reelected and the leadership stays the same. Until a sitting senator loses reelection as a wake-up call, I’m afraid nothing.
No. Still you can write PDJT in if you want to.
PDJT will beat this recent assault and Desantis will remain in Florida.
I think you might be right.
Paul Sperry, on Gettr and here on Citizens Free Press, is reporting that the FBI agents who raided Mara-Lago, are under investigation by Durham, because they are the same FBI agents involved in Crossfire Hurricane, Russia, Russia, Russia counter-intelligence unit. So, they should have recused themselves and did not.
There is more to this than meets the eye; more and more truths are about to be revealed on this RAID.
Here is the link to get you started:
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/paul-sperry-fbi-agents-who-raided-trump-under-criminal-investigation-by-john-durham/
I read that article and it’s obviously a tighter circle of bad apples that are egar to go dirty towards Trump. . I really think Trump will crush their butts and Desantis will perform accordingly to remain in place while professing to be 100% MAGA. I know a few Democrats that like Trump but are dubious about DeSantis, perplexing.
I find this encouraging. Maybe AG is latching onto this perspective to target who he’ll blame so he can put the target on their backs. If so, they won’t indict, IMHO. This is encouraging news to me. It also reinforces my thought that they didn’t get the docs they were looking for. No there…there. The safe was empty.
Oh, for ,…petes sake!
Durham is doing his job, of bondoing, taking up where Mueller left off.
Forget about Durham.
Abigail..thanks for posting.
At the risk of my Scorpio/sarcastic side comming to the forefront, anything with the word Durham in it smacks of Hopium.
When has conflict of interest meant anything to these criminals?
And when has Elias’ and his ilks lawfare schemes been promptly smacked down by the judiciary??
“Desantis will remain in Florida.”
Not sure about that after the MAGA cuban Americans get through with him.
What’s the response of the MAGA Cubans in Florida after DS was not defending Trump. Any inside info?
The Venezuelans are more pissed off than the Cubans..
It will be quite the Republican primary debate with Noem and de Santis vs Trump.
Fools sent on an errand.
I posted this yesterday on Facebook:
Dear Governor Desantis,
This was NOT an escalation!
It was a part of an ongoing insurrection focusing on your benefactor, POTUS Donald J. Trump.
You failed our President and in the process signaled a sad inability to protect him from the DC Swamp Uni-Party invasion of Mar A Lago!
Your inaction and tepid response signals an inability to wage the war that must be fought at the National level.
Please just stay in FL and continue your excellent job of managing the State of Florida.
Someday I hope you develop the cajones of future governors like Arizona’s Kari Lake.
I feel you presently lack the courage to be on the National stage of American politics, but I will always support your leadership of the great State of Florida. in spirit only at this point.
Meanwhile, my donations go only to ULTRA-MAGA leaders who unequivocally support POTUS Donald J. Trump.
Warm Regards,
William M. Monnie
Excellent
I like it, WMM. But it will do no good. Your email will end up where mine did, in the digital trash can.
you don’t know that
as a matter of fact, candidates want to know which way
the wind is blowing
it is up to us to make sure a gale is coming a politician’s way
I have suggested a totally peaceful (saboteurs/violent plants will have their a$$ kicked and be detained for the Authorities) “Rally In Tally” to voice our displeasure about the Machines and the Home Invasion. All I got was one “UpVote”.
Great statement.
I would only make one critique.
You might of said as long as Gov. DeSantis maintained his Florida/America First policies you would make one exception to your Ulta-MAGA Contribution policy.
As long as he was Gov. you will continue to financially support him.
JMHO
It seems everyone on here believes we have lost 2024 and are now eating our own to feel better. This is why the dems always more effective.
Not me.
I don’t see it that way. We’re waiting to see if Trump will run again. If he doesn’t then we can hope that other people will choose to run. The polls conveniently include DeSantis but none of my favorites.
And I don’t see it THAT way.
“We’re waiting to see if Trump will run again.”
Its PRESIDENT Trump, the FIRST time you write it, “Trump” thereafter, a tradition dating back to hand set type, and still applicable today, although “PDJT” is I believe acceptable in the age of tweets.
Only someone deaf, dumb and blind would have any doubts whether PDJT is running in 2024.
He has made it abundantly clear, while keeping the official declaration off the table, for as long as its advantageous.
Can you not SEE that?
He is running in 2024.
Desantis will NOT be his VP.
He WILL be on the ballot.
He WILL win.
The powers that be will move heaven and earth to ensure that Donald Trump is not the Republican Party Presidential candidate in 2024.
They utterly destroyed American democracy in 2020 to thwart Trump. There is no going back.
I despair at the sad, sweet people who think we’re going to do Emily Litella in 2024 “never mind” and pretend that 2020 never happened.
Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia etc. The norm, the status quo is now election fraud. Waiting for this obscenity to pass like bad weather does not suffice.
he cant run from prison
any deaf mute can see where this DOJ is heading
geez
yes he can
As far as I’m concerned President Trump is still the actual President.
The Election was not legitimate.
Desanties is governor of Florida he is one of the few people who could of actually done an action this week. Where is the guy who told Disney to pound sand and fired a DA the week before?
Amazing what a difference 7 days makes.
Lion to Vulture in under a week.
If he was what he claimed before Monday he should of been on the steps of Mar-a-Lago that night.
Should of been doing a Presser with Trump the day he came back.
Should of been threatening to sever all state assistance to the FBI this week.
Excellent post.
Anthony Sabatini owned Florida this week with his comments. Outshone the governor.
and yet nothing changed
Indeed, until this week…..desantis never saw a microphone that he could not wait to get behind.
Desantis could have gone down and beat up the agents, but he didn’t so he is corrupt. I see your point now.
Almost as if the Raid date was selected to sync with his campaign tour. He’s off and running and leaving MAL n the dutch.
YES
I am ever hopeful we will win 2024 with PDJT. …… not eating our own in regards to desantis, just pointing out what may be inconvenient truths for some.
Bambamtakethat…
Many didn’t like it when Sundance warned us about Cruz and Sessions-just a couple examples.
Many a “discussion ” about that when it happened.
Lots of Crow recipes given out each time.
I am with you…I am ever hopeful we will win in 2024 with President Trump again.
I didn’t need to be warned about Cruz & Sessions, however, I’m taken aback by DeSantis. The news has been too distracting for me to pay attention to what others have been doing. He issued a statement, and I was satisfied with it.
Sundance is able to keep an eye on so many balls, and an important one is DeSantis. I will be keeping a wary eye on him. Regardless of what he does, no way I would pick him over Trump for 2024.
Not me, either. The reality is, that if Trump is not on the ballot in 2024, the only way this movement continues is for another outsider to emerge that is willing to take on the job that Trump started. Desantis isn’t it. Noem isn’t it. Haley isn’t it. Pence sure as hell ain’t it. Cruz? Nope. Pompeo? Nope. Christie? LOL. The GOPe assumes that if they take Trump out of the picture, we’ll just go back in time in the performance when we didn’t see the marionette strings…like it never happened. There has to be a plan….the trajectory of this effort to deny Trump the ballot in 2024 is only leading in one direction…DC Grand Jury, DC Courts, judges and jury’s (J6)….and no counter efforts from the Republican Party to any of it.
Josh Hawley
We haven’t.
We get peeved (being nice).
We throw out ideas, thoughts and options.
We share information and updates.
We try not to take things personally. And treat each other with respect.
Giving up is not in our DNA.
We even share recipes when we have to eat Crow. 😋
Concern trolls.
Subtle hand wringing designed to plant seeds of doubt in others.
When called out, they get defensive and always say but but but, dems are worse.
Once you see the strings..
Christina Pushaw routinely “owns” the Libs and got the governor’s message out but was hampered by being an executive branch employee, now as a campaign staffer she will have far greater latitude in hitting back against Dems and their media stenographers. I can’t wait to see her unleashed.
🤔Put her on President Donald J Trump staff ..
🤔See if she can still own the Libs
👉 Her skill set is for making us feel good about a President Trump alternative while doing the bidding of her GOPe handlers and image makers👈.
“I can’t wait to see her unleashed.”
That is what we have been saying since Monday……… where is she at???????
MAGA must work to identify a viable second choice to PDJT should the communists succeed in taking him out of the running and we need to start looking for that person now. We can grassroots fund them to prevent them from being compromised as Desantis was. And he was compromised long before he became Governor.
Honestly, can’t you see that the dam is going to break and people are going to be shouting their heads off at every single political representative if Trump is forcibly removed?
Silly wabbit, she’s been right in front of you, for months now, not as an “in case”, but as PDJT’s VP for sure.
“If you the the 2020 election was the most sscure in History, you better put down Hunters crack pipe!
“If any of you University Students are arrested for peacefully protesting the University Covid mandates, as the University President has threatened, I will pardon you my first day in office!
“If the current Governor, “Doormat Ducey” had even ONE ball, he would STOP the drug and human trafficing on the border.”
Tune in to the rally tomorrow, and see a fake maga lite candidate, on the same stage with a REAL MAGA WARRIOR, but warning,…lol. It ain’t gonna be pretty.
Real Clear Politics moved Brain Dead Biden’s approval to 45% today. Part of the plan to show Dems up by the Mid-Terms. While China Mitch and Kevin McCarthy do nothing. The “Red Wave” will be a drizzle – just as planned.
We all have to commit to voting all-Republican in November.
Dems always vote for Dems. They don’t care who the candidates are. We need to vote like that. We need to vote for Republicans, even bad Republicans, to get rid of Dems.
Not always true. So many Democrats voted for Trump both times. That’s how he won in massive landslides!
But please research each of these primary people so you know which one is the better. I see some of these rinos on there. It gives me a headache but I will not just go with a familiar name.
Although hard to research these judges try and do it because we are have too many activists judges already.
No. We don’t.
The polling numbers have to increase for the Democrats, in preparation for them stealing the midterms.
Richard Baris touched on that issue. He said is typical that Ds o this in a summer and then they are blown out in the mid’term. He gave several recent examples – one being 2010. He said he expects Rs to blow through the midtrms. His polls are the ones to watch, imho.
The state politician who wants federal agents held in check via laws should be pushed to see if The Governor would sign them.
Or maybe he needs to be asked if he would sign such a law.
I won’t be voting for a “kinder, gentler, MAGA”. That’s not who I am.
No “One Thousand Points of Blight” for me either.
Did George Washington ever give up? No, he kept fighting until he won. No true American patriot would ever give up and hand these dems and rinos a free ride. No, a true patriot would keep fighting to beat them down.
Life is full of ups and downs but that doesn’t change the true American spirit.
The last sentence in 45’s RAID announcement is that he would keep on fighting. He will never give up either. He’s fighting for USA, We The People. Ok. Maybe there’s a little revenge in there. Hope so. He’ll fight all the harder with no mercy for what they have done.
Well that attitude will certainly hasten our demise.
Now just a minute. Who invited DeSantis to attend all these events? I don’t believe he just inserted himself. I am skeptical of the Sundance point and will wait a while longer before, perhaps, I go where it seems a great many of you who have commented afore me.
It’s a Turning Point series of events run by Charlie Kirk. I have a feeling Charlie Kirk thinks he’s the next king-maker and he’s hooking up with DeSantis trying to make DeSantis more popular than Trump. And Kirk is drawing in much bigger donations now than before (thanks to Trump’s popularity).
Look at this statement from Kirk:
Gov. DeSantis is America’s Governor and one of the most popular leaders in the country. He has become the model for a new conservative movement that is willing to stand on principle and to actually fight on behalf of the values of his voters.
We already have a new conservative movement and it’s called MAGA and it’s led by Trump. We don’t need another new movement.
I noticed Turning Point is calling their movement “Unite and Win”.
Kinda sounds more like a Uni-Party slogan compared to “MAGA”.
They can try,…
Mitt Romney
John McStain
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz
these are just some of the many politicians who at one time self-identified as “Reagan Republicans” and were all faking it.
There WILL be charlatans, but they will be much easier to spot.
Desantis did a fair characature of a “Trump lite”, but Kari is the real deal; $ 3.5 mil for KL, $30 mil for her GOPe opponent, they TRIED to stuff the box, but they would have had 125 percent turnout, in order to generate enough ballots to beat her.
She IS the heir apperent, and others are rising, too.
The MAGA army needs an ‘officer corps’ and PDJT and patriots accross the U.S. are building one.
Be a part of it.
I have noticed this in many places…”the new conservative movement” they are indeed trying to rebrand. getting away from MAGA. It has been subtle but there. Charlie Kirk has been bought and paid for with TPUSA. It is a shame because DJT got him on the map…
The Club.
Agreed. CTH is trending a little too Q-Anon for me.
😵💫Is that you Q??
😎Sundance will find your post funny because he’s always warned ⚠️ about such shenanigans like Q
👉 Treepers don’t associate Sundance with Q because Sundance documents. It’s up to his readers to accept facts as they are, NOT as we wish them to be 👈
Well said.
The Truth Has No Agenda
You must be the same person from The Gateway Pundit comment section ,who was trying to convince people there, that Sundance was a Q promoter. If I remember correctly, you had your a$$ handed to you there. Now you think you can do it on Sundance own site? If you are not the same person the fact still remains ….
desantis is what he is.
Nope.
No Q allowed.
With all due respect, I have never looked at that silly “Q” sh*t a day in my life. I am sorry you fell for it.
That is truly out loud laughable for those who have been on this board more than a nano second, but take a little longer. Watch the first Unite and Win AZ rally tomorrow, 8/14. Let’s see if Trump is EVERY mentioned. Listen to every word DeSantis says, but more importantly, what he doesn’t say.
How do you know what Q-Anon is doing? If you follow him and read him, you’ll be conflicted, just like you are, imho.
doesn’t matter now; too little too late
You must be new here.
The mere mentioning of that name has gotten people a “goodbye” post from Sundance.
And, it’s not easy to get such a tweet like that from Sundance.
.
He sidled right in . . .
Ron De Sidler at the ready.
Desantis going limp after the raid/assault on PDJT is really all you need to know. He was getting his balls sqeezed by who? Uniparty. GOPe.
Yes, I agree, but we’re running against the tide on this topic. Unlike with Dems, there’s always in conservative/libertarian circles a kind of pride in not voting unless the winds are blowing just right.
Maybe Bill Barr was right when he alluded to that fact that many Republicans just didn’t show up to vote for the President Trump, something I thought inconceivable, but our side is indeed a fickle group in which small offenses or imperfections lead to total ostracism.
I always laugh to myself as I’m leaving the polls after voting when they hand me that lapel sticker that says, I VOTED!
I wonder if anyone ever thought of making an identical one that says, I DIDN’T VOTE! Or even tee-shirts with that message.
Who knows, maybe someone could get wealthy?.
But I wouldn’t market it to Democrats. They’d likely say, ‘what do I want that for?’ However, my hunch would be that many conservatives would say, ‘sure, why not?’
Hey…I always make jokes at the polls when they give me the sticker.
They always laugh or a big smile. It has to be kinda boring being the sticker person handing them out after awhile.
They are the adult version of a lollipop for kids when they go to the doctors. A lollipop would be nice along with the I voted sticker though.
Thrasher, I would think we should be able to know fairly soon. I have been an admirer of DeSantis, but I also respect the keen observervation skills of Sundance.
As Trump is fond of saying, we shall see.
Ron, we hardly knew you.
Trump is the real deal. What DeSantis istrying to do is called “stolen valor.” He is now pretending to be someone he isnot. Thanks for the preview, but no thanks. De Santis won’t stand up to the pressure.
I don’t blame Kari Lake, but she owes everything to Trump. We cannot let them divide us.
What blame attaches to Kari Lake?
This is the perfect opportunity for her to stand on a stage, with DeSantis, and let the MAGA army see for themselves the difference.
She doesn’t need to ‘fight’ him, just be herself as she expresses genuine heartfelt rage at the raid, her standard platform of election reform BECAUSE 2020 was stolen, etc.
Whats Ron going to say, to explain his silence and inaction as Governor, during and after the raid?
The upcoming event will tell the tale. Let’s see if Lake and DeSantis condemn the raid on Trump and throw their support behind him. If the raid is ignored it will be a disaster for Lake and Masters.
Lake already did on a MAGA scale.
Why on earth should this whole topic surface before the incredibly important election of November 8? November 2024 is in the distant future!
The recent unity that created MAGA victories in AZ and elsewhere gave our side great momentum going into Nov. 2o22, as we begin to reclaim our country.
Why should Kari Lake, Charlie Kirk, and other MAGA warriors suddenly be under a cloud of suspicion at this important juncture?
I repeat, we CANNOT FAIL TO WIN THOSE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. FORGET THE NONSENSE ABOUT R’S AND D’S AND THIS ONE AND THAT ONE.
IT’S ALL ABOUT KICKING THESE FASCISTS WAY THE HELL AWAY! US, OUR LIVES AND OUR NATIONS’S LEVERS OF POWERS.
I don’t want to hear the name Joe Biden ever again! I don’t want to hear the name Merrick Garland ever again!
GO OUT AND VOTE!
Good Lord willing and the creek don’t rise–I will be standing in line at 6:30.
Telling everyone-No early voting. No drop off ballots. No mail in ballots. Show up physically at your poll!
I don’t know about 6:30, but I will go to the polls on Election Day and vote for Trump.
Trump needs a proven wingman like DeSantis, yet it would appear he’s being lead down the primrose path just like McCain & Romney.
Whether DeSantis is out for himself or country will show soon enough.
Desantis already showed his cards
He plays for the other team
People on our side ignore things also
The clues have been obvious for a while if
You have paid attention
👉 This week has already “proven” enough 👈
✅️ For Governor Ron DeSantis to recover his integrity will take his complete support of President Donald J Trump and definitive actions as Governor.
Is it possible the GOPe is helping DeSantis to insure he is Trump’s wingman?
I get the sense the GOPe hates DeSantis a little less than Trump because he makes so many other GOPe governors look pathetic.
Is the GOPe trying to kill 2 birds with one stone?
Trump is yesterday’s man.
The establishment failed mightily in rejecting him.
Of course, of course.
The people were right, the establishment was supremely wrong.
A by the book, doctrinaire Republican will sail to victory in 2024.
Nikki Haley has already disqualified herself by attacked Trump. Fool.
Treat Trump with enormous respect. And then dismiss him.
The establishment will put DeSantis on a glide path. The Democrats have proven a huge failure and disappointment. Of course, of course.
I don’t think GOPe is helping to insure DeSantis is trump’s wingman because 1)they/he have excluded 45 in the rally, 2) they state they are starting a “new conservative movement”, i.e. separate from MAGA/AF, but riding our coattails, 3) when has the GOPe ever done anything to help 45.
We tend to keep thinking the GOPe will come around, but when has it? Never. Did they rally around 45 this week? Nope.
Rove is one of the slimmest no talents in the real world parasitic hacks that the world would have been a million times better had he never been born.
DeSantos is better in FLA than DC.
Noem is beyond a lightweight.
Cruz is a coward, not so bright (spare me the SC pedigree – The SC is a joke), obvious and two-faced0
Haley is the reason they call DC Hollywood for ugly and low-IQ people.
Trump needs a ton of work – he got it handed to him in obvious ways in his fourth year and the Vax and emergency order is the largest unforced error in history time 10,000 and could find his pair in his last year and listen to consistent loser Jared (a guy who has zero success in his life) and his lefty daughter – he needs Rand Paul as VP.
Don’t accept as is – demand what should be or we never get out of this living hell run by low IQ and moral psychopaths, just as Hayek, Mises, Stigler, Sowell, James Buchannnan, Rothbard, Jefferson, Hoppe, Eisenhauer, Hazlitt, Mencken, predicted.
Now or never.
Nope….Rand Paul had the power to close a senate session and allow President Trump recess appointments. He didn’t do it. No VP spot for him. He doesn’t have the balls for it.
I noticed Rand Paul has been meeker since he was beat up by his neighbor
Hawley could have done that as well, and didn’t. Very disappointing.
If he gets the nomination I am voting Democrat. I will not support the GOPe or that loathsome Noem.
What’s funny is Desantis can’t win Michigan or Pennsylvania as he won’t be pro American worker. And he needs the rust belt to win.
🎯 Good point about the Rust Belt states
Governor Ron DeSantis “another close but no cigar” Big Club GOPe managed close call loser Presidential Candidate
✅️ Like Romney or some Senator(can’t speak or write his name)from Arizona that ran but lost to that “honorable man” Barry Sotero 😉
So you’ll support Democrats? Is that a better vote? It sounds like a dream come true for the Dems.
You do understand they are all a Uniparty, right? As in they are united in their goals.
It’s not a better vote, it’s the same vote…
Should we vote for Mitt Romney or Ronald McDonald in 2024 because they are a GOPe clown with an (R) next to their name???
at least the Democrats TELL YOU what they will do …we can prepare and YES I would vote D before I’d vote for a GOPe candidate
I have learned too much over the years to throw my vote to a wolf I’d rather fight the Donkey
Just write in Trump.
DeSantis is a good Governor of Florida. He needs to STAY the Governor of Florida!
I am VERY disappointed in this man. I still pray for his wife though.
“Good governor”? People need to take a hard look at the issues that matter.
Time and history move in one direction.
Rejecting Trump was probably the biggest mistake the rich and powerful who own America ever made.
But billionaires do not lay awake at night re-hashing old mistakes.
Trump will not get a second chance. Give your head a shake.
And the goofs who attacked Trump disqualified themselves from higher office. Of course.
Basic common sense and human decency apply. Trump was John the Baptist. (Forgive the heresy). The next Republican President will walk the path already trodden.
Frankly, I find anybody with military experience should be excluded. They are way too loyal to the military and really have no idea about foreign policy, even though they think they do.
Hillary didn’t have any military experience, and she screwed up everything she touched.
Give me a military candidate every time. Most have seen what it’s really like in other countries, and vow to not let the US become like them.
😵💫Calling General Milli Vanilli
😵💫Your political qualifications are accepted due to your “military” experience
Really?
McCain
Eyepatch McCain
Mattis
Kelly
Kerry
Kinzinger
Milley
Esper
Hayden
Powell
Austin
I could continue but I’m getting so disgusted I will stop.
Eisenhower was a great president.
That was a different military.
After the Obama purge it’s gone Woke.
Very disappointing!
The key words: “he has no independent wealth.”
In contrast, that was a critical factor allowing Trump to play the game without being part of the club.
The system stinks, but how on earth will anyone but Trump have the combination of money, brains, charisma, self confidence, thick skin, media and business savvy to persevere, absorb the hits and prevail?
Even an iconoclast like Musk got stalled and defanged when he tried to use his clout and wealth to upset one branch of the swamp applecart.
Best hope is that de Santis is’going along to get along’ and will become more independent if he actually gets elected. Low likelihood, but other than Trump who has a better reputation and profile for the national stage?
Exactly right – I made exactly the same point before reading yours.
🤔”going along to get along” means he’ll NEVER be allowed to be “more independent”.
👉He’ll behave like a good GOPe servant or get the President Donald J Trump harassment treatment 👈😉
If he were to become more independent they’d do what they did to Reagan. Activate an asset with ties to the Bush and Romney GOPe to shoot him. Notice Reagan’s policies changed post shooting.
I always thought CIA Bush was behind Hinkley. It was said Nancy had rules that Ronny was never to be alone with Bush
PDJT spent far less than Hillary, and won.
100 full time paid staffers for PDJT,…
Over 7000 full time paid staff forHillary.
In the Az primary, KL spent 3.5, small donations.
Robson $20 mill of hubbies money, another $10 mil outside source.
KL won.
$ makes a difference, when its two hacks, one D, one R, both consultant directed.
Put either one up against an authentic MAGA candidate, and the $ doesn’t mean much,..cause
“Its the MESSAGE, Stupid!”
It’s still early in watching what happens.
Just like Never Nikki and others.
Tim Scott endorsement of Lisa Murkowski.
Accepting DeSantis without scrutiny would be a mistake.
We still have a few more battles. Liz Cheney in Wyoming and Murkowski elections.
If DeSantos runs against Trump he will lose and he will lose FLA – FLA loves TRump more than DeSantos. Big mistake that someone as dumb as Rove wouldn’t understand.
✅️Except it is the fact that Rove and ALL such political ilk are more corrupt than stupid. Their counting on President Donald J Trump to be removed from running again.
It’s starting to look like TPTB have given assurances that President Donald J Trump will be removed from running ✅️.
GOPe gets two birds with one stone . so they hope…
Sundance always on target! 👍🏻🎯
This is similar to what happens to republicans when they get elected to the senate. Most of them are slimy creeps way before, but a few actually seem solid. Almost instantly they become swamp creatures. The pull in the senate is especially strong. Someone or some group of someones sets them straight right away and it must be pretty convincing, likely threatening.
With the exception of Rand Paul, the entirety of the GOP senate are cheap street-whores getting filthy rich on our money. They have no sense of accountability to their voters and are totally not concerned about it. They get reelected continually until they retire.
Also, DeSantis needs to stay in FL. There is still a ton of work to be done. The vote fraud out of Tallahassee, Tampa, Orlando, and Miami is significant. Florida is a 65/35 state, but every statewide race is 52/48. Do the math on that fraud.
Rand Paul is a release valve.
Just as putting Desantis side by side with KL will make it obvious that he ain’t MAGA, put one or more REAL MAGA in the Senate, and all talk about Rand Paul, Josh Hawley, Ron Johnson will seem silly, to say nothing of Cruz or marco.
Blake Masters, for instance is going to kick that astronut back into orbit.
He’s the real deal, with quite a resume.
Selections not Elections say the Globalists.
I will tell you the essential reason why I think this is happening.
Ron is (relatively speaking) POOR.
He has been convinced (or always held this view himself – I’m not sure it matters which) – that he can’t aspire to higher office because he lacks financial independence.
He needs donors to fund his aspirations and he believes his best bet is the donor class.
This last assumption on his part may well be his downfall.
I took a dislike for him when he once referred to God as “the man upstairs”.
I was hoping he’d prove me wrong 😑
I don’t give a damn if he paves the streets of Florida with freaking gold. They carried out a coup against President Trump as if they were overthrowing a foreign Dictator. If they take President Trump down again, or somehow manage to prevent him from running, I will never vote for DeSantis….NEVER…..they will not force me into the same BS I’ve dealt with since Ronnie left office……I voted for Ross Perot, after that I sucked it up and voted for the ones they chose for us….. never again, they can shove their chosen puppets up their crooked a$$es! Quite obviously it really doesn’t matter, no matter D or R, the end game is communism
Why do so many think Trump would be ‘running’ again?!
It’s mind numbing.
He WON 2020 WHICH HE WILL CARRY OUT;
ONCE THIS FARCE IS DEALT WITH.
What, he’s just going to waltz back in and finish 2 years of a 4 year term? Which rips us off! The only way I see that happening is if he is voted in as Speaker and idiot Biden and the other idiot are impeached. The he becomes President and runs again in 2024.
He will serve the full 4 years he was ELECTED to.
The election would have to be overturned, and everything this illegal regime has done would have to be nullified. They would have to admit to fraud. The Supreme Court refused to take the case when which if I remember correctly was filied by 26 states. All three branches of government would have to admit they were wrong. It’s not remotely feasible. They think they are completely justified in their coup. They are not going to admit in any way shape or form that they successfully overthrew the election of the President of the United States of America!
Don’t forget the 4th Branch — IC — and they won’t admit to the fraud since they did it.
I like and agree with your thinking, as many here do, I’m sure.
“ no matter D or R, the end game is communism”.
This exactly.
Sir, have you seen the roads here in Florida? They suck.
Lol…no, unfortunately.
The GOPe club knows that the dims will pull every trick to get a felony convi9ction Trump, thus leaving the field open to Ron D. in 2024/ The club is an integral part of the Uniparty and the swamp.
Screw Rove. Rove lives in a bygone era, an ugly reminder of the GOPe’s record of failure. For DeSantis, he’s the kiss of death.
Outside America looking in …
Donald Trump comes down an escalator and says “I’m giving back America to its people” and the MAGA movement is born. This might sound crazy, but he wins. He becomes the 45th President of the United States. Only in America …
He wins and gives America back to its people.
Well its not that easy. He gives America back to half its people. Their called The Red Team. Republicans. Let me tell you, this sends The Blue Team into a frenzy. No jokes, they start burning everything down – for real – their that pissed. Called it something black lives matter, but make no mistake they ain’t happy.
Their so pissed they flat out cheat the next election. Blatantly. From the outside looking in at America? How you going to give America back to its people? The nation is divided. We ain’t talking differing opinions anymore. Two completely different directions.
Bad? Turns out The RED Team? They in on it too! No jokes. Divided? Give America back to its people? Who you going to give it too? Seriously …
Nah. Somethings got to be done about this …
Now.
Take
A
Look
Around
That’s what’s happening. Everything is related to the above. From the day Donald Trump announced …the world has gone upside down. Republicans? Here we go …Republicans got some splainin to do. DeSantis? Yep. He’s 100% Team RED! Not MAGA. Team Red.
From the outside looking in – Team Blue? They toast. Dun and dusted! That first term made sure of that. Don’t mess with Donald Trump. The worlds soon to see that. But first – clean house. Republicans. You’re next …
Can’t give America back to its people until their united. Already tried it sooner, and half the country went off like a frog in a sock. BOTH Teams joined forces against MAGA this is now undeniable. Again – that first term cemented this fact. Don’t mess with Donald Trump, he ain’t playing around here. You wanna see just how bad it REALLY is? Let me become President …try and fix America, and I’ll SHOW you just how bad it really is …
You thinking its pretty bad now huh?
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
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Donald Trump did more for the obsessed leftist Democrat voter than any Democrat president has done — ever. There is no arguing with emotional or irrational.
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Someone explain to me why DeSantis would do this. He is revered by the people of Florida and respected by the patriots for his stances against covid mandates, Disney, abortion, Federal overreach and many other things.
Why would he risk everything to join a club who can only offer him what he could already get on his own?
If Trump becomes President, DeSantis would be a shoe-in to follow him into the White House.
Is the swamp planning to kill Trump, then offer DeSantis the role of Puppet Ruler?
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If Trump becomes President, DeSantis would be a shoe-in to follow him into the White House. Yes.
Get on his own? No. He only functions with a modicum of freedom following in Trump’s wake. Without Trump, he has no money and little power unless he’s annointed by “the Club”. This is just a fact of life, what our politics have come to. He does not have Trump’s millions or his extensive business networks to rely on.
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I appreciate your response.
I would suspect that if Trump manages to beat the fourth branch, not get arrested on a phony charge, not be assassinated, and actually become President again, after his term is over he would still be a major force in deciding who wins political office in this country. I’ve seen many candidates with less money AND his endorsement win a lot of political races so far. So the answer is we only elect multimillionaires to office because they can’t be bribed? I was hoping that Trump wins in 2024, stomps the swamp flat, fires a lot of government leeches, and paves the way for candidates who are good people, but don’t have zillions of dollars. I obviously don’t know Florida like SD does, because he lives there. I DO know that if I could switch my governor Abbott with DeSantis, I would do it in a heartbeat because all Abbott ever does is talk a good game and bus a few illegals to DC. I guess SD is telling us that someone who stood up against the government when it was dangerous to do so is now just going to dump those principles for money. Maybe I’m just naive but DeSantis does not look like another Lindsey Graham to me.
That’s easy. He puts himself first regardless of the circumstances.
I don’t understand why Sundance keeps bashing DeSantis… As far as I know, he is one of the firmest Trump supporters among GOP governors, and has done very good to conservative base so far. If, a big If, PDJT can’t come out and run for 2024, DeSantis surely will be one of the most favorite candidates coming out of GOP and conservative bases.
He has done nothing since August 8 to help Trump. He’s showing his true colors.
He’s a governor and made a great statement.
How do you expect him to help PDJT? Send Florida National Guards to arrest Garland?
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Guess what? He really does not have many options if Trump is taken down. (Trump also is no spring chicken. Sorry to have to point that out too.) Should DeSantis roll the dice? It’s a tough call to make: risk being crushed if Trump doesn’t pull out of this in a timely fashion — or accept the offer of club support. He can always go back to Trump but he never will be forgiven if he stands up in the trench now on principles.
This is reality. DeSantis can do very little to help Trump in this situation.
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I’ll say one thing about Sundance: he’s on the money… or, at least, “very close”… one helluva lot of the time…
If he is Trumps firmest supporter why did he not speak on the steps of Mar-a-Lago. Why has he not done a presser with Trump or even a presser at all this week for that mater? One tweet on his personal account the firmest support a Governor of the State of Florida could do?
bisonlj far be it for me to speak for Sundance but for me after hanging in this tree for about a decade what i know is Sundance tells us what we NEED to hear not what we WANT to hear and i can NOT remember a time he was wrong . be well stay strong don’t give up
If you read the facts, you should now know differently.
I seem to remember Trump making a few mistakes along the way and we didn’t dump him.
Things he didn’t do like cleaning house at the FBI after firing Comey, hiring people like Bill Barr, etc.
So because the statement DeSantis made wasn’t strong enough, we’re just gonna throw him under the bus?
I seem to remember a whole lot of people who thought Trump was a clown who wouldn’t do anything and would get beat like a rug if he ran for President. A lot of those people now support him. I guess Ii’m saying wait and see.
Just saw a clip from Twitter, DeSantis on Hannity tonight with Lara Trump. Very concerning, DeSantis insisting it was not a raid, the FBI was doing their job. WTH? I wish I knew how to post the clip, he was visibly angry, even Hannity was arguing with him. He is NOT who we thought he was.
😵💫Didn’t see 👀 the video 📹 but if you described it fairly accurately then it’s worse than I thought.
😵💫Governor Ron DeSantis is Mike Pence 2.0
When Desantis join the club by attending Sea Island after the election 2020, he was given his assignment. These globalist are the PITS.
It appears to be a doctored clip. I almost fainted…
DJT should declare he is an independent.
Turns my stomach to hear Charlie Kirk and TPUSA have become the property of the establishment GOP.
Thought he was on our side. However, Money changes many things.
DeSantis, on the other hand, doesn’t surprise me.
In Congress, he was a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus.
The caucus is what’s known as the “controlled opposition“, and despite the talking points to the contrary they are funded by billionaire individual donor special interests.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2017/03/23/president-trump-meets-with-intransigent-house-freedom-caucus-the-congressional-nevertrump-team/
TPUSA is the organizing of (young) Republicans and conservatives for the purpose of….. well, it’s just to organize them and never use them for any reason whatsoever. The Dems have foot soldiers in a multitude of organizations and, thanks to Kirk and his GOPe handlers, the Republicans have members who receive newsletters and get together to complain.
💯Excellent points 👌👍
DeSantis was barely elected governor in 2018. He squeaked out a victory thanks to Trump’s support. Now he allows the DOJ/FBI to abuse DJT while he hides in his bunker. He is almost as ungrateful as Mittens Romney. Who knew Kari Lake has bigger balls than DeSantis.
How does a decent Republican Presidential candidate ever lose?
Every Presidential election should resemble 1972: the Democrats carry around so many extreme leftist policies and supporters like the chains on Marley’s ghost. McGovern was viewed as a joke by most Americans, but the radicals who dominated the Party (even then) took their shot.
Sweet and kind Americans wanted to see a black President, thinking it might slay the dragon of racism, so they elected the closet radical Obama. Unfortunately Barry used the opening to transform America and install this Deep State that may require a revolution to uproot.
By 2024 America will be a mess, and Americans would elect Ted Bundy with a decent policy platform.
But will the Fourth Branch allow a fair election to take place? The mechanisms of election fraud may be too deep and broad to be thwarted, any more. They couldn’t allow a free and fair election, even if they wanted.
The billionaire capitalists who so objected to Donald Trump must be scratching their heads trying to remember why they found him so objectionable.
Nothing wrong with our democracy, that a little more democracy wouldn’t fix.
Time for Sundance and a whole lot of folks to go look in the laundry and see if they can find some big boy britches. Is there any fool that thinks that MAGA voters alone can take the Florida Governor race, the House or the Senate? Mar-A- Lago is PDJT Barnum’s circus and he will be the ringmaster and we do not need or want anyone trying to share his spotlight or steal his thunder. The left is trying to create friction between the two on a daily basis and President Trump does not need or want Ron D to be his spokesperson. Ron D’s statement contained the three words that are important to echo the Trump message, weaponization -regime-banana republic.
Words and image are political horse crap. Action taken against the enemy is the true test of anyone. While so many are quick to throw stones, let me remind you of Stones.
When Ron D became a member of Seal Team one, he stood up
When other Red States had mask mandates, he stood up
When vaccine mandates, government and corporate came, he alone stood up
When Disney decided that grooming was their priority, he stood up now they pay taxes on their castle to the county.
When CRT and sexual filth was heading to our schools, he stood up
Who ended three decades of Miami/Dade illegal vote production system
Is he smart enough to realize that we will need R’s and NPA’s in November, Yes that is a no brainer.
Please do not try to damage Ron D because he did not do a Kari Lake and jump in the spotlight.
We do not want Turncoat Charlie.
We like being the most free state in the USA
Exactly!
“Did not jump in the spotlight” Florida fully cooperated with the raid. They read the warrant, which is total BS. It’s quite clear that DeSantis is in on getting rid of Trump anyway possible, so he can enter his fat ass in the 2024 race. Desantis is a RINO who used DJT to get elected in 2018, and , like Romney, is now BACKSTABBING TRUMP. The fact is , as Sundance has stated, he does not have the $ to fund a prez campaign and must kiss the Koch ring. Neither does he have the national recognition or grassroots bona fides to raise grassroots money. Nobody knows this Skull and Bones Yalie outside of FL.
👉It’s just the opposite. The GOPe and Uniparty are doing the dividing and the damage is being done by Governor Ron DeSantis.
It’s his choice and apparently he’s all in on the GOPe and Uniparty plan.👈
😵💫He’s starting to remind me of a Mike Pence 2.0
Ron was not a Seal. He was JAG (a lawyer).
So much wasted energy devoted to Donald Trump.
DeSantis 2024.
You expect the Republican establishment, the Uniparty, the billionaires to blithely admit they were wrong about Trump. Uh, no.
If the Deep State, the Fourth Branch permits a free and fair election in 2024, then a mainstream Republican can campaign about as hard as Biden did, and still win.
delusional
Desantis has proven to be a man of the people and the finest governor in the nation. These nonsensical smears are disgusting. While I love Trump Desantis actually would make a great president also and likely wouldn’t hire people like Chris Wray and Bill Bar. Never the less Trump has my vote
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DeSantis is a career politician who is not America first. His economic policy would be no different than a Bush or Romney. He can’t win the Whitehorse because Trump won with non Republican voters and people who never voted before they won’t come out for a Chamber of Commerce Republican
He is not a “chamber of commerce Republican” or a career politician despite the nonsensical and baseless smear.
Uhh, just after he was elected, he tried to implement eVerify in our beloved State. The CoC, the Construction lobby, Big Agriculture and the Tourism folks nearly messed their collective pants when their endless stream of disposable throw away human labor was threatened and we never heard another peep about it. I invite anyone to ride around a new development and see how many white men you see working there.
Unfortunately, we will see.
Like many other conservativesI voted for Bush, McCain, Romney. These people were our option I never thought any of them were such traitors to the base (and our country) until I saw them go after Trump.
Unfortunately, Ron has one chance to save his “image” in the upcoming rally with Lake. He needs to support Trump. I do not think he will do so. I hope I am wrong. He has been a good Governor for Florida. He should stay there.
Man of the people? A Skull and Bones Yalie? W. and Willy were
probably his sponsors.
🤔Governor Ron DeSantis is making choices, actions,inaction with words or lack thereof that confirms his current GOPe usefulness.
👉His choices prove him out. Our choice to accept the facts as revealed 👈.
Do you think the Senate would approve anyone desantis wants? Do you think there were not better people PDJT wanted other than Wray and Barr? The Senate must approve those figure heads. The swamp will not approve their own demise. You either do not understand or are purposely obtuse.
DeSantis is not the finest governor in the nation
You just don’t hear about the others because they are
not constantly in the press grandstanding
It’s all politics, folks. All of it.
The GOP has nothing whatsoever to do with governance. The GOP is a corporation and you don’t own any shares.
Do not continue to support this charade.
Well, it will be interesting to see how Lake and her team responds at the rally on Sunday. Hopefully, she’s been briefed and has read your mind blowing article Sundance.
My hope is that Lake calls out these political jackals who are trying to high jack our movement.
Jon Stewart called Rove for what he is “a canned ham loaf”
I concur!
Well, DeSantis just moved into the slimy weasel column. He killed his popularity in the past few days.
He didn’t kiss the MAGA king’s ring as 81 million voters expected.
He is as popular as ever and for good reasoun.
Wifhing won’t make it so. He can stay in Florida and keep you all happy. If he screws Trump he is done on the national stage.
What the desantis’ and kirk’s of the GOPe world don’t see (blinded by $$$$ no doubt) is that they are jumpin’ into a GOPe vessel with a huge crack in it’s bottom and it is sinkin’ into the abyss of political suicide.
But, it couldn’t happen to a finer bunch of creeps ……. Americans double crossing President Trump ……. lower than low.
“Let’s go Brandon, desantis and kirk!”
DeceptiRon, then?
Excellent!
Dear Governor De Santis:
I have admired you as Governor Of Florida but….the recent raid of Mar-a-Lago and your lack of support for President Trump is quite revealing.
Trump supporters don’t like the GOP club, which appears to be pushing you as a replacement for Donald Trump. You are a copy cat of Trump. You are a pretender. You are supporting Kari Lake, who was supported by Trump, to help your national image.
The term, “stolen valor” comes to mind. Trump is the warrior and you are putting on the uniform and taking money from the Big Club and you will screw the people of this country as surely as Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, Mike Pence have done before you arrived on the scene. Don’t bother. We see through it all now.
Shame on you. I will not support you. Your career has taken a huge downturn.
We all know 2020 was stolen. The Uniparty is not the way forward for this country.
Sincerely
The MAGA base
Have you ever seen a Trump rally? You will not get that support.You do not deserve it.
Aargghh. I saw it. But I’ve been trying to ignore it. Not deny it, exactly, but just kinda ‘not right now’.
Well, B***S***!
I cannot abide a phony, a two-faced backstabber, a liar, an exploiter, and/ or manipulator. We’ve got our own problems here with Governor Abbott. (We both would have preferred Allen West.), so I haven’t paid much attention to Governor DeSantis beyond the random “Good for him”.
I did notice that the President walloped him in both the CPAC and, if I’m not mistaken, TPUSA SAS Florida straw polls.
DeSantis is no substitute.
Aside from that, I think it would be a very ugly look for Kari Lake and/ or Blake Masters to take up with him after President Trump’s support. I would think it would cost them votes.
There’s nothing worse than a fair weather friend. But maybe that’s just me.
I would hope that the governor just put them on the spot and they couldn’t rebuff him gracefully, but we’ll see. That’s a stunt that the GOPe would pull, too, to tarnish Lake and Masters.
It takes a while to schedule a function like the rally here with Kari.
DeSantis was probably advertised in advance as one of the speakers attending.
Way before the raid happened.
This may really be blessing in the end.
Knowing what we now know – this gives us an opportunity to watch more closely than we may have if the raid had not happened.
Usually I agree with Sundance…Not on this one or anything in this.
After 10 years he is still batting 1000 and calling the homers before the pitch comes.
He is good but I have seen him wrong before. He certainly is here.
He has the research. If you can find the error in his analysis of it, here is the place to put the information.
did you ever think YOU are wrong?
With all due respect, he’s right. DeSantis has revealed himself.