In Part One we outlined the origination of the modern Deep State {Go Deep}. In Part Two we outlined the specific targeting of Trump that was carried out through the tools that originate in the modern Deep State {Go Deep}. Here in part three, we outline how and why President Trump was blocked from releasing the evidence.
The motives of the DOJ and FBI are clear when you have a full comprehension of the background. However, it’s the threats and betrayals against President Trump that most people have a hard time understanding. Why he was blocked is clear, but how Trump was blocked is where you realize the scale of the threat that exists within this corrupt system.
In the spring and summer of 2018 everyone became aware of the DOJ and FBI collective effort to target President Trump under the false guise of a Trump-Russia collusion claim. It must have been extremely frustrating for a sitting president to know there was nothing to the claims yet be constantly bombarded by media and political people in Washington DC who held a vested interest in maintaining them.
By the time we get to September of 2018 the basic outlines of the Trump-Russia targeting operation were clear. However, the Robert Mueller investigation was at its apex, and anyone in/around Donald Trump was under investigation for ancillary issues that had nothing to do with Russia.
It was into this fray of constant false narratives that President Trump first made statements that he would declassify documents related to his targeting. It was after Trump made those statements when the real motives of putting Robert Mueller as a special counsel became clear.
With Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused from anything to do with the Trump-Russia investigation, it was Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein who delivered the message to President Trump in September of 2018, shortly before the midterm election, that any action by him to release documents, now under the purview of the Mueller special counsel, would be considered an act of “obstruction” by the DOJ/FBI people charged with investigating him.
Immediately after meeting with Rod Rosenstein, Trump tweeted:
This was the first act of betrayal by political operatives within Main Justice who did not recognize or accept the concept of the ‘unilateral executive.’ According to Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director James Comey, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and even later (including recently) AG Bill Barr, the office of the president cannot exercise unilateral executive authority when he himself is the subject of their investigative power.
In essence the DOJ and FBI, along with white house counsel and a collaborating senate and media, kept President Trump from declassifying and releasing documents by threatening him with impeachment and/or prosecution if he defied their authority. The threats created a useful Sword of Damocles, and blocked Trump from acting to make documents public.
In the months that followed President Trump frequently made public statements and tweets about the frustration of documents not being declassified and released despite his instructions to do so. Many Trump supporters also began expressing frustration.
The external debate and consternation surrounded how the Administrative State has seemingly boxed-in President Trump through the use of the Mueller/Weissman counterintelligence probe, authorized by Rod Rosenstein, where President Trump was the target of the investigation.
A widely held supporter perspective was that President Trump could expose the fraudulent origination of the counterintelligence investigation; of which he is now a target; if he were to declassify a series of documents as requested by congress and allies of his administration. This approach would hopefully remove the sword of Damocles.
The core issue within the debate surrounded two contradictory reference points: (1) President Trump has ultimate declassification authority. Yes; however, in this example President Trump is also the target of the investigation; so, (2) declassification could be viewed by elements within the investigation as ‘obstruction’. Both of these points were true.
Also true was the reality that both laws and politics were in play.
In November 2018 President Trump gave an interview where he discussed the situation as it was visible to him. Democrats and republican opposition, writ large, were working earnestly to remove him from office.
Here’s a link to the General Principles of declassification [SEE HERE] Yes, the President can declassify anything; however, there is a process that must be followed. Executive order 13526 [Citation Here]
Following that declassification process the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, then Dan Coats, and the FBI Director, Christopher Wray, and the Attorney General, in this example Rod Rosenstein, needed to “sign-off” on the declassification.
The process reasoning is simple in the ordinary (non-corrupt) flow of events. The intelligence agencies might need to protect part of the information, such as “sources or methods” of intelligence contained within the classified material.
Under ordinary declassification procedures the President would likely not want to compromise the ‘sources’ and ‘methods’ and would defer to the intelligence experts.
President Trump is aware of material that he can use to defend himself from the ongoing ‘impeachment’ plans of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. However, President Trump is also seemingly aware of the issues within the process to gain access to the material and actually use it. This is where the concentric circle of lawyers around the Office of The Presidency come into play.
We have the constitution, we have laws, and we have politics.
Moving forward there are three background threads that are critical to understanding how this process has unfolded so far:
- The Declassification Conundrum.
- Understanding the Ramifications of President Trump as a target.
- Understanding how intelligence is compartmented.
All three of these issues come into play.
Unfortunately, if you have not already invested the time in those three aspects it is easy, very easy, to get lost.
Because none of the legal linguistics took into account the reality of the actual process for declassifying information, many people were stuck thinking President Trump held sole authority to classify and declassify intelligence without understanding the process.
Declassification of intelligence is a process, and each person -within the executive branch- inside the process must agree to the process. Making the process even more riddled with issues is the reality that President Trump was the target in a counterintelligence investigation. President Trump was being investigated by Mueller to see if he is under the direct or indirect influence of a foreign power. [In this example, Russia]
The Mueller probe is an originating counterintelligence investigation that ‘can find’ espionage (see Russian indictments) as well as violations of law (Papadopoulos, Manafort, Flynn). It is critical to remember, the originating probe is not a criminal probe; but Mueller and Weissmann can charge criminality if the investigators encounter interference of their counterintelligence probe; these are the process crimes (perjury, obstruction, lying to congress); or if the probe uncovers direct criminal activity (tax evasion, money laundering, FARA violations etc.).
Yes, technically President Trump can declassify anything. However, it is also true that technically POTUS doesn’t actually declassify anything. The Office of the President asks for a document to enter into a declassification review process.
Officials within that process (ODNI, DoD, DoS, FBI, DOJ-NSD, CIA, NSA, etc), based on their unique relationship to the interests within the document(s), can approve or refuse to sign-off based on their specific intelligence interests. This is where compartmented intelligence comes into play.
Any officer who refuses the request for declassification must justify to the intelligence hub; the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI, Dan Coats). The executive branch intelligence official tells the ODNI (Dan Coats) why they, their unique interests, cannot approve of the declassification request.
DNI Dan Coats then informs POTUS why the document is not cleared for declassification.
If he disagrees with the decision of the intelligence official, POTUS then would have to fire, replace and hope the next person in the chain-of-command would sign-off. Given the nuance in the example of President Trump declassifying information that would show he was targeted, and considering the President is under a counterintelligence cloud it was unlikely any officer would break ranks.
President Trump would have to fire people, and keep firing people, until he gets to a person, inside that specific agency, who would comply.
Now stop and be reasonable.
Think about the general political ramifications to that decision. And then think about the ramifications against the reality that President Trump is a target, under the cloud of a counterintelligence probe.
President Trump asks DNI Dan Coats (intelligence hub) to coordinate the declassification of [fill_in_blank]. If he agrees, in November of 2018 Dan Coats then asks all of the compartmented principles with interest in that specific document. That likely includes the DOJ (after the midterm it’s Matt Whitaker), FBI (Chris Wray), and likely DoS (Mike Pompeo – because of the State Dept aspect to Chris Steele). Also, possibly the NSA and/or Cyber Command.
If FBI Director Christopher Wray refuses to declassify the document(s) because it is part of the current Mueller counterintelligence probe, of which Trump was a target, then President Trump would have to fire Chris Wray; and, while awaiting a replacement (Senate confirmation seriously doubtful), the request then falls on FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich. [Who would also likely refuse]
As this hypothetical declassification example is unfolding you can imagine the political damage being carried out. In addition, there’s the looming impeachment process waiting to start. Hopefully, you can see how President Trump could easily be accused of interference or obstruction of justice. So, he had to wait for Mueller to finish.
Here comes the second betrayal and threat.
Mueller completed his investigation in April of 2019.
Within a few weeks, May 2019, the newly appointed and confirmed Attorney General Bill Barr tells President Trump to remove himself from the declassification issue and give him the authority to declassify and release documents because Barr has an investigator (John Durham) to look into the corrupt activity behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
Ten days before he made the request, Bill Barr had enlisted John Durham to look into all of the issues surrounding the targeting of President Trump and the Clinton campaign involvement in the creation of the Trump-Russia collusion story.
At the time most people thought what Barr was doing was a good thing. As a result, President Trump agrees to support Bill Barr and on May 23, 2019, delegates the declassification and release to the Attorney General.
The President is trusting his cabinet officer, the highest law enforcement officer in the country, to do the right thing and expose the wrongdoing he has been the subject of for the past two years.
It was an easy sell, because the purpose of declassification was ultimately to facilitate a DOJ review of how the intelligence apparatus was used in the 2016 election.
However, because the DOJ review encompassed intelligence systems (DOJ, FBI, NSA) potentially weaponized in 2016 for political purposes and intents, a strange dynamic existed.
President Trump carries: (a) declassification authority; but also: (b) an inherent conflict.
In the DOJ endeavor using John Durham, candidate Trump would have been the target of corrupt agency activity; and therefore, Trump would be considered the target/victim if weaponization were affirmed by evidence collected by Durham.
To avoid the conflict President Trump designated the U.S. Attorney General as arbiter and decision-maker for the purposes of declassifying evidence within the investigation:
…”The Attorney General has also been delegated full and complete authority to declassify information pertaining to this investigation, in accordance with the long-established standards for handling classified information.”
Additionally, AG Bill Barr did not need to assemble the intelligence product for approval by the executive (Trump). Instead, the office of the president is granting the AG full unilateral decision-making as to each product being considered for declassification.
At the time we noted, this was a huge amount of trust from the President to the Attorney General, and a big responsibility for William Barr:
[Sec 2] …”With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General’s review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum.”
The position-designate slightly works around custom insofar as the intelligence hub, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (Dan Coats), is given conference – but the decision-making was designated to the Attorney General (Bill Barr).
Essentially the DNI will be following the instructions of the AG for this Memorandum. This is slightly unusual; but given the purpose, necessary and expected.
Following protocol, the 2019 Memorandum was specific to the agencies carrying the documentation to be reviewed by the Attorney General: The Secretary of State (Pompeo); the Secretary of Treasury (Mnuchin); the Secretary of Defense (Shanahan); the Secretary of Energy (Perry); the Secretary of Homeland Security (McAleenan); the Director of National Intelligence (Coats); the Director of the CIA (Haspel), and the Attorney General himself (Barr).
Within the memorandum President Trump did not allow AG Bill Barr to delegate authority. However, all agencies were required to respond to Barr’s authority.
The purpose of the Declassification Directive, as it was sold to President Trump, also appeared to permit the DOJ Inspector General to include classified material in the body of the (early 2019) pending report on FISA abuse; this memorandum was granting AG Bill Barr the autonomy to make that decision and declassify that content.
While the purpose of the authority was to empower AG Bill Barr to collect, process and declassify intelligence product that was part of the DOJ investigative review, President Trump did not preclude the public release of intelligence information in advance of the 2019 IG report on FISA abuse.
Much of the intelligence information may be collected external to the IG review parameters (FISA process) and may be released independently as part of stand-alone declassification that pertains to weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA political activity. Ultimately the decision to release, and the timing therein, was then in the hands of U.S. Attorney General William Barr.
On May 23, 2019, with the Mueller investigation in the rear-view President Trump tweeted:
Unfortunately, as time continued throughout 2019, Attorney General Bill Barr took no action that would declassify any material of interest to the targeting of President Trump.
AG Bill Barr used the “ongoing criminal investigation,” led by the man he appointed, John Durham, as a justification for non-release of documents.
Frustration continues to mount as impeachment efforts against President Trump and the painful reality of the Bill Barr motive starts to settle in.
Bill Barr replaced the obstruction and interference threat carried by Mueller special counsel, with the obstruction and interference threat carried by the Durham special counsel. The ‘ongoing investigation‘ narrative created both swords of Damocles. One created by Rosenstein/Mueller the other created by Barr/Durham.
Then Bill Barr did something even worse. He made sure Donald Trump could never remove it.
The result?
The special counsel block of investigative material continued from May 13, 2019, all the way to today. The Durham special counsel is an active and ongoing investigation.
This is the dynamic behind the declassification of records.
This is the dynamic where the law is used, structurally weaponized by the institutions who are sworn to uphold it, to protect the interests of the DC Deep State.
This is the dynamic that exposes how the DOJ and FBI are structurally corrupt.
Even as he was departing office, President Trump wanted those documents released. Documents he declassified and outlined in this memo to the DOJ:
This is the heart of the battle over documents between the current DOJ/FBI and President Trump.
Again, the threats of a corrupt administration of justice are at the heart of the issue.
This four-year sequence of events, including all of the betrayals and threats made against Donald Trump, all intended to keep him from allowing the public to see the full nature of the corrupt Deep State operation that lies at the heart of our current political strife, is ultimately what led to an FBI raid on his home in Mar-a-Lago this week.
This is the scale of the issue.
In the final part four of this series, I will outline what specific documents are the most likely to have been retained by President Trump.
I hope the previous three outlines have provided a solid context for people to understand the scale of our national issue. The DOJ and FBI will do anything to stop the release of those documents that outline how the system worked to target candidate and President Trump.
If the broader American public understood what tools and surveillance systems were used; if the broad American public knew what the DOJ, FBI, intelligence apparatus and aligned Senate committees have done; if the broad American public became aware of the scale and scope of the corruption in DC as it now exists; entire institutions within that framework would start to collapse.
This is what they are trying to stop. That is the scale of their zero-sum approach.
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Sundance, i am humbled by your work. Well done
Me too. Sundance’s research, analysis and supporting documentation is exceptionally superior reporting.
Suggestion – Remember to hit the tip jar, everybody!
Do you ever sleep?
I was going to post the same. God bless you Sundance and colleagues. May God provide you resilience and supernatural strength and fortitude. A hedge of protection for good measure. In Jesus’s Holy and Saving Name, AMEN
Second Amen. Brillant work SD… BIG thanks for helping many of us to understand this level of corruption. God Bless.
Cannot but think of Reagan’s quote:
The United States remains the last best hope for a mankind plagued by tyranny and deprivation.
Given what we learn from the investigation and analysis of Sundance it looks bleak. But as always once you understand the problem and know your enemy the chance of correcting and winning is much larger.
Thank you Sundance for spreading light on these issues!
We are a failed nation state. Look at the date of the Barr document. Mere days before the election.
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Time to release my sharkos on these FBItches!!!
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We can only move forward with hope and the truth.
Keep the faith.
To big to fail is now followed by …
To corrupt to succeed.
Despite all efforts to stop it, the “crumbling” continues. MAGA becomes more aware and more influential each passing day. The latest attack on MAGA is the 87,000 IRS goons and the raid on Mar a Logo. There will be other attacks by the “Bad Guys” and each battle must be fought and won by the American People.
What is to prevent the government from hiring these military age illegals for these positions in the IRS? They are not advertising that they need a degree in bookkeeping and legal tax codes. They want physically fit applicants willing to shoot people. They can be the governments answer to not being able to utilize our military, which they have significantly weekend, against its own citizens.
The same principle applies to our local police forces.
Using false flags and fake news, fascists smear your demoralized local cops-next-door, deflate and “defund” them, before moving their very own foreign jackboot mercenaries into our neighborhoods to terrorize us.
Anybody who buys into these (local) cop bashing fake news headlines hasn’t a clue what lies ahead. Just wait until their UN replacements arrive.
Obama even mused about sending them in under pretext to restore order after Trump’s 2016 victory.
In Communist states like NJ the cops are already the jackbooted thugs.
We can’t invest in any police. They’re all corrupt or corruptible.
So, let them collapse!
It is becoming the wish of more and more people. “Saving the institution” is an insult.
Demolishing the Institution would be a blessing
Maybe the whole situation is like an Alcoholic that must hit rock bottom before on can truly recover.
Great analogy.
Scary to think the EffingBI aren’t rock bottom yet…
This whole legal process of declassification is absurd. It seems to me PDJT could have used a surrogate or proxy to simply hand over documents to the press. It’s a time honored practice in DC since long before Daniel Ellsberg.
Patrick Leahy exposed (ie declassified for all intents and purposes) the U S overhead reconnaissance system by blabbing about it to reporters. Jimmy Carter did the same. Neither instance would qualify as a declassification in the technical sense, but the information was exposed and the cats ran out of the bag.
Why should PDJT follow the rules? He could have had any supporter just start talking. Pardon comes later.
Or more simply just written an EO that did not delegate this mess to Barr but simply gave the IC 30 days to respond to planned declassifications by presenting a briefing of their concerns to the White House – in writing – to include briefing charts – that would be recorded for posterity. Then POTUS makes a decision to declassify, and releases both the declassified documents and the video of the IC leadership briefing their concerns. They would be on tape lying because there were no “sources and methods” in any of the materials. That was the lie they told when they tried to block the Nunes Memo. I’ve read that memo many times and it contains ZERO “sources and methods”. It does, however, contain evidence of criminal activity by Strzok/Page which is why they wanted it blocked and went ballistic in response to it.
Multiply the Nunes Memo by 10,000 and attach a nuclear bomb to it and you get the scope of the documents Trump wants released. The docs contain evidence of outright criminality by DOJ and FBI.
You do not beat the Administrative State by playing by the rules the Administrate State has written. You beat the Administrative State -as the Chief Executive – by putting in place policies that either force them to play by their own rules or you send out an EO rewriting their rules.
To the great summary by SD I would also add that Pres. Trump very likely did not want to release this material if he didn’t have to…because it would take down the country. MAGA doesn’t mean blow up the country into anarchy which is what would likely have followed if he had released those documents straight up. You would have had FBI and DOJ agents in shootouts with US Secret Service in the White House. Their threats of impeachment would not have survived the release of those documents because Trump can speak directly to the public and say, “They threatened to impeach me if I told you what they did.” – blackmail.
Good analysis. Still… PDJT knew for a fact– as we all did– that the administrative state was extremely corrupt, from top to bottom. The People need to know the truth.
Hopefully, the administrate totalitarian state … is desperate. Hopefully President Trump has copies of all these documents. He has known for over 2 years that Barr betrayed him. That’s a devastating reality.
My hope is still… that things are not as they appear, that there are many more patriots that we do know about who are fighting to preserve our great nation… including ones we assume now have betrayed the nation, betrayed the President, betrayed the People. It doesn’t look good though.
Do you suppose the betrayers and their useful idiot paper pushers will come around after their loved ones succumb to the unprecedented, globalist depopulation agenda?
Or not even then?
I don’t know.
Rules for thee do not apply to “he”— they would lock him up.
Bingo! The law would be applied in exquisite detail against Trump.
How is it that not one of these high-level, Deep State actors (and there are many), has grown a conscience and decided to step forward to confess to the world what has happened? Not one. What are the odds?
Seth Rich is an effective deterrent.
Wasn’t an ex Marine Secret Service Capitol guard just found dead after calling J6 professional agitators? What more could he have told us?
They’re proud of killing people all the time. One alphabet goon even bragged to me about this a few mo the ago.
They’re psychopaths, semi-psychoric/deluded, and just evil.
Look at the leaked John Podesta’s e-mails. He was OK with killing leakers. I think he used the euphemism wet work. Sounds about right for someone in the Clinton orbit.
Someone posted a day or so ago that Matt Gatez was on War Room saying an unprecedented number of whistleblowers are coming forward. I think they are from the FBI. Where is all that going? Is that getting buried too like all the other dirty deeds. Not one Republican in Congress is able to do anything? Are they all so afraid of the intelligence community. This is not fixable if no one on the inside steps forward.
They have reportedly gone to Chuck Grassley and there are “several.”
Unfortunately I think Lou Dobbs just said while interviewing Tom Fitton (another good tip jar to hit) that they went to Grassley six years ago…
We need insiders not with the “stones” to stand up— but with the love of God and country. Where are the people in these agencies who believe in a higher power, in decency, in preserving the republic?
That’s why I could never be a pastor. I could not look out on the congregation and see some of these same folks sitting in the pews looking back at me, smiling.
A conundrum. Because of decency and honor, I suspect many would not work in such corrupt places. Perhaps they’ve all fled from the evil. I hope not. I hope there are at least 3% that stand to fight against that evil.
I increasingly believe things now which heretofore I dimissed because they seemed to be conspiratorial or, worse, too terrible to think could happen in a country I thought to be run by those who wanted only the best for her.
Neil Oliver, whose exact words I can’t remember, said in effect he knew danger or threat because his body reacted viscerally.
This is how I feel now.
With Sundance’s incredibly detailed dissertation, I can no longer avert my eyes to the truth of what has been done to this country by venal, power mad, corrupt, Godless actors…not just since Mr Trump came down that escalator, but for decades before.
I think the day will come when people like Edward Snowdon, Julian Assange, and Donald J Trump…all vilified and conspired against by the maggots embedded deep in America’s foundations…will be recognized as those who tore the covers of what we in fact are and have been for longer than any of us want to recognize.
I add Sundance to the list of men who could see and tried to make us see as well. Your armour is shining in a world where honour has become a thing of the past. I earnestly pray that Almighty God keep his warrior angels on duty to protect you…and I humbly thank you.
The odds you speak of…falls into statistical significance, me thinks….
Where are they? at satan’s alter.
Well… Grassley disclosed the existence of FBI whistleblowers, plural.
They have certainly put their lives on the line by revealing the corruption… especially because it is SO difficult to IDENTIFY those who cannot be trusted but APPEAR to be patriots/trustwirthy, only to discover later they are not.
I pray DeSantis is not among the traitors to truth, justice and the actual survival of the United States of America in the form our founders designed for us.
Cannot imagine the pressure and purge to get at these whistleblowers.
Brennan is a Muslim and a Communist. He’s quite pleased.
Our side needs some of those kgb umbrellas only loaded with truth serum rather than whatever radioactive drug they used.
Bulgarian Georgi Markov umbrella RICIN poison
One question I have as I read this……why attempt to ‘legally’ or ‘morally’ respond to actions that are neither legal or moral? It would seem that, despite the (in hindsight, perhaps) questionable obstructions that were thrown in the path of Trump’s intent, he responds to them within proper and respectful channels. At some point, perhaps, you need to throw caution to the wind, circumvent all the questionable obstacles put before you, and just declassify without going through ‘proper channels’….particularly when those proper channels are beyond questionable.
That’s a good point, JBrown. A strong of a leader and as focused of an executive As Trump was, he had a couple of Achilles heels. I saw Don Trump Jr on The Apprentice years ago saying that his father taught him that loyalty was the most important thing. Yet as President he kept people close to him who obviously had no loyalty at all. I’m still stumped by that. And he had a shockingly inept ability to manage lawyers. Lawyers generally aren’t leaders. They are risk averse, and extremely self-serving. It takes a strong hand to keep them in line. He should have had Sessions /Whitaker Rosenstein /Barr in his office every week saying, what have you gotten done THIS WEEK? Yes, at some point impeachment might have been successful if he had been far more aggressive. But he also had the bully pulpit. He should have been on TV every week saying fighting corruption is going to be the number one job of my Administration. I believe the public has his back. Then and now. Osama Bin Laden famously once said, people will follow the strong horse.
its amazing that you think of yourself as more intelligent and astute
than the man who has taken all the slings and arrow for us.
Hero worship is for children.
Stupidity and lack of critical thinking skills is for all ages
I am so looking forward to the moment when everyone (including the people who question why PDJT did not see the evil working next to him) to learn of the evil that is in their lives: co-workers, family, friends, church family, business contacts, love interests, employees, and more. Evil is very capable of pretending to be whatever you need to see in order to trust them.
Look at how fooled we were and for how long we were fooled about “Republicans”. Year in, year out, election in, election out we supported them and voted for them. Yet, these people think that PDJT has a supernatural spidey sense to pick up the evil working with him when we did not see it when it was in our face every day.
As a business owner I learned that lesson. Treat people like family and some will still hurt you. Broke my heart. I’m sure PDJT feels the same.
I never said that. But these things were obvious going back to when Jeff Sessions was laying down on the job. A fact is a fact.
An illegal coup deserves whatever it takes to take back the country.
Garland claims today, the FBI acted with integrity. In effect, don’t believe your eyes. The abuse of power is apparent.
The only decision remaining is how will this abuse of power be corrected.
Fantastic read. The layers of corruption just continue to be exposed. Sundance. Amazing job here.
It continues to baffle me that so many are so willing to destroy their country.
I used to view these “conservatives” men with so much respect. I fought so hard to defend Bush and his type. How differently do I see the world now. CTH has been instrumental in removing the blinders.
DD
Me too. I defended and trusted Bush for years. Chaney too. It’s so difficult to witness what we are witnessing. Chaney’s comment the other day about Trump was just staggering and shocking because it was such an overt/obvious lie.
Cheney was SecDef when I was in the USAF. He was despised.
I hope this is the culmination, but I’m expecting something worse to happen.
I still find the whole idea absurd that if Trump had valuable documents, he would just store the only copy in his home.
There must be more to the raid than just some specific documents ??
Surely the FBI don’t believe he has an only copy of valuable documents in his home ??
This would POTUS really leave his only copies in his unoccupied house
while he is gone for months?
Did they get what they wanted?
No one is talking about this. After all that the Uniparty DC Swamp has done to him does anyone really think that he leaves any documents around just sitting in a closet knowing that they are gunning for him? That is Hilary or Hunter level of stupid.
We do not even know how many of those 15 boxes actually contained anything. They could have marched out with those boxes to make it appear that they have troves of “evidence” so that the MSM could talk about it for a week when they actually had nothing.
They are trying to keep the suspicion of anti-American, over throwing democracy, threat to America, blah, blah, blah, talking points alive going into midterms. If they destroy him then they destroy the MAGA movement.
If the theory that the open safe was a shock to them is correct…
…then hanging around looking busy, ransacking everything, treating the place with all the disrespect they could, and leaving with a bunch of irrelevant stuff would basically be the only course open to them.
He also has multiple homes, businesses, cars and a plane. Look at how big Mar Lago is, they searched only specific areas not the whole thing.
They missed the shoebox in the upper righthand corner.
Trump was boxed in by deep state operatives who put him in a political straight jacket. Impossible to fight back in such a position. Even Houdini could not escape those shakles. Excellent narrative of what actually happened. Barr stands out as the ultimate sleazebagger.
So basically, Durham is keeping things in “ongoing investigation” status until the end of time while throwing out crums like Sussman to get wrist slaps for the illusion of actually doing something meaningful.
Or until we get a genuine USAG
Theres more to this than PAPERWORK. Somethings got to give before next Nov? What, where, when, I’m ready.
With this background in mind, we can see why the intelligence agencies of the world have done these things:
All This is just for starters as they seek to overturn the very basis of freedom in this nation!
From all intents and purposes, after the Secret Service stood down at the home of President Trump, and did not defend him, why, would anyone put their trust in the Secret Service for protection???
Not sure, but maybe because President Trump was not there. So in effect, they weren’t in a position to defend him since he wasn’t physically present.
They did NOT “stand down.” They were with the president and he was not in Florida at the time of the sneak attack on Mar-A-Lago.
The secret service had members in the raiding party.
14 . And when friends and associates in their criminal activity get sued in court or face the prospects of being indicted, they send in the FBI with questionable warrants to seize all evidence against the parties they are protecting. The raid on MAL was akin to what they did to the owner of Project Veritas in his suit against the NYT, except the stakes are greater.
Who tha heck is Sundance??? What’s his real name? [I Love his insight….Just curious]…Thanks!!
I’m also curious, but prefer anonymity if it keeps him safe.
He is a patriot. Period. Or he could be a group of really smart patriots. Bless and keep them all.
I read once he was a manager at Publix. 😂😅. Seriously. I really did.
I hear Publix is a great company to work for and love shopping there. It would be fitting if DeepState were taken down by someone who has day job with Publix.
But that’s just a fun fantasy. I’m confident SD experience and wisdom come from elsewhere.
John Dallas…we don’t care who he is, only that he is. And we pray for him and his safety. At best, meditate on his knowledge.
He’s one suspicious cat.
So can we assume POTUS was smart not to keep his only copy at
his unoccupied home?
Why did the SS allow the FBI in, why didn;t they take/or demand a copy of
the warrant.. I can;t believe there was not one single SS agent there they wouldn;t
leave his unoccupied house unguarded..Why did they allow them free access to
roam around at will. they should have followed them around?
I will assume based on comments from Eric that they have surviellence
video , hopefully POTUS was watching in real time.. and that they have
multiple copies of the video?
Is this silence from the FBI/DOJ a good thing or bad. were they so caught off guard
by the reaction they need time to come up with some plausible
cover story ? I don;t believe that them saysing some unnamed source
told them some unknown document was in such and such a place.
and if that is the story how do they explain 9 hours to get to that spot
to find whatever.
It is funny how incompetent our government can be when they want to be!
Or in the case of SchiffForBrains, maybe just drunk.
1st warning his exwife
2nd warning the raid
3rd strike out (jfk’d)
DJT is of endtime witness material…?
….ex wife???
😬
Is there any indication that foul play was at work?
I sure would not be surprised!
DD
No.
never thought of that, however, wouldn’t surprise me
Then I go to work!
Are you out of your mind?…. ex-wife?
you don’t think the wrong political think can lead
to this?
The drug gangs always kill someone close to you
in order to make a point. I wouldn’t put anything
past these people
I am older and there is too much history of it
actually happening
is there any evidence of it? No
I agree. Ivana did not fall down those stairs to her death. She had an elevator. She would have used it, certainly when alone in her home.
President Trump surely has copies of everything that was taken?
Do you really think that PDJT is stupid enough to keep important papers just sitting in his closets at MAL? Really? If I had the federal government coming after me for 6 years I would be smart enough to not leave documents laying around. Trump is a million times smarter than I am so I would assume that he has his documents very well hidden and copies of them very well hidden.
My hope is anything that was left in the open for our corrupt FBI to take was along the lines of photos from Hunter’s laptop.
I think (even though I am wrong quite often) the trigger is that Trump promised the next president WILL need to clean house thoroughly. Right after his comment, we witness the raid.
There may be quite a few other factors, or the raid had been planned for a long time. I just thought Trump’s not too subtle threat got the career Intelligence agencies all in panic. So they engineered a vague warrant from a Trump hater magistrate, conducting a most irregular raid.
To all, to cover up their own @sses.
Sundance has shown me the way.
I already knew that Geoff Diehl (endorsed by PDJT) is my choice in the blueMA primary coming up on September 20. And I already suspected that the “moderate bizman” Chris Doughty who belatedly popped up as a candidate with money to bombard me with 3+ emails a day was likely to be a RINO splitter.
But Doughty made the mistake of making me aware there was a debate between them last night on Howie Carr’s show. The annoying part was that Howie said Doughty won the debate.
That aside, I just watched it and everything they each said completely confirmed everything I already thought. I’m more in Diehl’s camp than I was before, now.
As for Howie, like PDJT who is supposedly his friend, he does like to be unpredictable, and he may have decided basically on a numbers game in his head that Doughty has more chance in this horrible state.
But I don’t care. Voting for the real Diehl MAGA this time.
I’ve read that the despicable former AG running on the Dim side (Maura Healey – I’ve met her – butter wouldn’t melt in her wicked mouth) was one of the 75 Soros-backed ones. Have not yet found solid confirmation of a donation to her from a Soros agency. But there are a lot of them and suspect it’s out there…
If any MA people on here want to find the debate, it’s on rumble – couldn’t find it on youtube, probably because Geoff actually mentioned PDJT’s name and praised him!
By trumps latest Truth, it seems the DoJ and FBI were successful – they now have the documents. Isn’t that correct? Do we know if the docs are now in their possession? And why would they think trump didn’t just copy them? Are not the docs just paper? Surely trump has a copy machine, correct?
It’s a digital world now. Isn’t it likely that long ago critical documents were scanned and then secured on flash drives or on a variety of other available media, and then moved to unknow locations? Think of it as dead-man’s switch material. That’s what makes me think much of the activity this week was for intimidation and show.
Agree. Pure (evil) theater.
Well guess what? They totally overplayed their hand and woke up the world to the corruption.
Trump 2024 will not be stopped now. They just galvanized support for him returning to his RIGHTFUL POSITION.
Now let’s go sign up to be poll watchers, election judges, precinct chairmen, school board members, city council attendees, tail gate party participants in front of ballot drop boxes, etc., etc. Everyone can do something.
Yes!
The morning after the MAL raid I woke up and added to my list to get a yard sign for Geoff Diehl and sign up to hold signs for him.
A woman and her young son turned up at my doorway not an hour later. The young son handed me her position card – then she came over from across the street herself.
I talked to her for literally 60 seconds and immediately knew her to be MAGA all the way. Real estate agent, no previous political experience – asked her why she’s running and she said “Because I just couldn’t stand it any more!” All further conversation confirmed it.
Before she left I mentioned that I had been meaning to get a Geoff Diehl sign – and she brought me one from her car, along with hers. Mission accomplished.
The whole thing gave me some very happy goosebumps. I felt a power beyond myself at work…
Agreed
I am hearing from otherwise apathetic people who just don’t care about politics are beginning to care. Most voted for President Trump but after the election simply slipped back into their lives as the swamp hoped.
However, everyday the absurdity of the swamp rats are being revealed and I believe this is how it had to be done.
I recall Ross Perot (RIP) had a great old illustrative saying for his intent as President in 1992, to paraphrase; “he would be the grain of sand that would create the pearl”. I believe that Pearl is our Great American President Donald J Trump. Whereas, Bush, Clinton, Bush II, Barry all came to destroy our VSGDJT came to restore. This great essay on the deep state by Sundance reveals the headwinds this great man faced. It is remarkable how much he achieved.
For me its like a dog that catches the car, it doesn’t end well for the dog. In this case the swamp rats have caught the Trump Train and in the long run will suffer the same fate as the dog.
Keep the faith, keep God and your family close as these demons are drug into light, nothing is off the table. But be smart, stay cool and be prepared.
MAGA! …again.
Excellent.
This is why we need to donate to CTH.
Amen Amin. Gospodi Pomiluj Sundance, his team and his family!!
Is Special Counsel John Durham actually conducting a criminal investigation, or not?
If yes, does he have all these documents?
If the criminal investigation is really a sham, is Mr Durham an unwitting dupe of the Deep State, or a willing accomplice?
Durham answers to Garland now. Of course, maybe Barr knew the election was rigged against Trump which would explain why– as Sundance said– Barr created SC Durham to, among other things, stop the release of evidence against the FBI, DOJ etc.
So the sole purpose of appointing Durham as special counsel to look into the FBI’s targeting of Trump during the 2016 election was to prevent Trump from declassifying all the documents proving he was targeted by the FBI during the 2016 election! How devious of Barr!
The Mueller investigation was probably used for the same purpose although Mueller was in charge of investigating possible Trump / Russia collusion so I don’t see how Trump declassifying documents related to an entirely different and more serious crime could be considered obstruction of justice.
Has there ever been a president who had to deal with this amount of backstabbing from his justice department? I guess Nixon could be close.
It is a damn shame that Trump did not have any smart people that he could trust advising him at the time because it had to have been obvious to some what Barr was up to with his Durham ruse.
Hindsight is 20/20 but in retrospect Trump should have ordered Rosenstein to fire Mueller and when he refused just kept firing acting AG’s until he found one who would follow his orders. It took Nixon three tries before he found someone to fire Archibald Cox.
I’m sure Trump got a lot of bad advice about how “you can’t do that it will cause a constitutional crisis” “look what happened to Nixon” but I think Trump could have easily weathered the blowback. He has since had to endure far worse.
In spite of it all…
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God, Bless President Trump
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When Epstein and McAffe were killed, that’s when things really came off the rails.
He ain’t dead.
Tell him that.
More excellent analysis by Sundance.
It appears the Durham investigation will remain in effect until well after the mid-term and if need be the next presidential election to keep PDJT from releasing the damning documents on the FBI/DOJ.
These stupid Rino bastards in Congress don’t realize the Deep State (FBI/DOJ) can be unleashed on THEM at any given moment….or maybe they are and that’s why they are afraid to do anything.
The worthless piles of excrement they all are.
The President , thru his AG, can terminate the Durham stall.
You know darn well no Demonkrat AG will agree to do so.
Govna all of them!!!
FWIW, just read this Newsweek piece which claims:
– there has been a (DC?) GRAND JURY meeting to review PDJT violation of the National Records Act?
– Secret Service coordinated w FBI?
– DOJ sources claim good intentions, but this looked bad?
– 36 FBI agents and technicians to search one personal safe?! All day?!
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283
And President Trump’s Florida attorney is an atteactive REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.
It is absolutely essential that we consider that the story in Newsweek is a narrative that the Deep State wants out there …
Yes, indeedy!
Agree. Wouldn’t trust them any further than I could throw Jerry Nadler.
Every single FBI agent needs to be charged with Treason. Everyone of them. The states should crank up their militias because if looks like the Federal Government and DNC has declared war on American Citizens.
Excellent write up Sundance. It is jaw dropping the length these evil critters will go to keep their bank accounts padded and power they have. Working in tandem. Not a bit of a conscience, not a ounce morals. It really is hard to process at times. A bunch of narcissistic evil jackholes.
Thanks for the clarity. What a betrayal it is.
Willie Barr motto
We have to kill the republic
To save the republic
God bless you, Sundance!
However, I really, really hate this. It is so damned painful. We vote. We donate. We stay informed.
In these ways we are empowered.
Yet, I still feel so impotent.
That’s when I remind myself that there is Someone else hearing our cries! God bless this country!
Any EO can be superseded by a new EO. Presidents do that all the time.
Frankly, the FBI broke the law and then covered it up by preventing declassification. Other groups involved too. Why not change the system to prevent future abuses?
so treason is committed by a Fed agency, that Fed agency starts a criminal investigation… end of story
Are you saying that Trump has these documents and is planning to release them? If so, did the FBI get those documents in the raid?
No, the FBI would not get the copies of the docs in a raid on MAL.
Logically, the copies (likely duplicated 2+ years ago) would be stored/protected at an undisclosed location, probably multiple copies at multiple locations.
It would be insanely foolish for PDJT … not to have duplicates of the evidence that proves his innocence and that proves the severe corruption of our out-of-control govt that believes ITSELF to be above the law.
And the DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRS, etc… do believe themselves to be above the law. They believe that because THEY ARE above the law. Their bold arrogance is stunning.
87,000 more IRS agents, armed, to terrorize the citizens of the USA. The targets will be the 100 million++ Trump supporters and voters.
And the left/dems… they LOVE it. Many millions of Dems have been successfully brainwashed to LOVE totalitarian tactics used to destroy their political opponents–any and all fascist tactics.
I’ve listened to them. No amount of reasoning, explanations of history influences them at all.
There are easily 100 million+ leftists/dems/rinos who are gleeful about illegal, vicious totalitaian unjust govt actions to destroy Trump and all his 100 million+ supporters.
No mercy; no wisdom; no historical perspective; no desire for equal justice under the law… or even adherence to the rule of law.
It’s frightening because it IS… historical. We saw the same mentality in Nazi Germany in the 30s. Most Germans were successfully brainwashed. We saw it in the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, the Chinese Revolution… and many more.
NO way there are 100+ million.
Remember the Brandon circles.
After the sacrifices President Trump and many others made on our behalf,
and are still making, we better do everything we can to assist in
righting the US ship. Otherwise, we are fools and don’t deserve a free
country.
Enough of the petty nonsense of posting comments about who
he chose that turned out to be wrong for this position or that.
Enough of the back and forth on what he did or not do
regarding the covid situation. Enough Monday morning
quarterbacking, arrogantly assuming any of
us could do better. Enough of all the petty crap
that we all seem to get caught up in sometimes.
We MAGA had better stick together, hold the course
and be strong.
Bottom lines to all of this are as follows:
And the documents may include other embarrassing information?
– Obama Muslim Brotherhood ties
– Seth Rich death
– Epstein blackbook
– Obama Kenyan BC
– ???
Agreed.
Someone chided me the other day for saying essentially the same thing you did on item No. 3 above. The reasoning is that the Constitution provides the sole qualifications for running for President.
All true and accurate, but pray tell, how can Trump run for President from inside a federal prison? And if anyone on this page doesn’t think a DC Democrat prosecutor, a DC Democrat judge and a DC Democrat jury won’t convict Trump (and give him the maximum sentence), then I have beachfront property on the Moon for sale–cheap.
Trump will not be going to federal prison.
Their goal is to tie him up in litigation.
Given everything that has gone on the past seven or eight years, I would not put anything past this crowd in DC. We underestimate them at our peril.
do not ever underestimate evil
Well …
Now the FBI done brought attention to those pesky documents.
All those tweets;
Huh, those “mean” tweets,
that the
msm characters
and
political lefties complained about;
and
twitter put an end to
can finally (soon)
be put in proper context …
So that the
deaf-brain- dead
anti-Trumpers
may learn what’s really been going on.
Many will feel foolish
Many will be embarrassed
Many will be angry
….. Hopefully, they’ll forgive themselves for being so deceived
and then — go MAGA.
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I can’t sleep. I stay up reading & researching. After falling asleep in my chair —I wake up in the middle of the night for more reading and researching.
You read too much bullsh*t too.
All this ‘process’, yet Democrats just do whatever they choose. The ‘process’ is a hoax, and has no standing if it’s regularly ignored.
There they are again..
tan doscksiders and black bobbie sox with a black skirt–this is not a fashion statement, its fashion anarchy…oh gentle reader, I cannot take much more! I clutch my pearls when I see this!
My Mikimoto’s need to be restrung!
Super article, but the questions I’m asking is this: a.) did the FBI take the enormous risk of raiding Trump’s home to discover what documents Trump had in his possession that exposed the IC community’s grotesquely illegal spying of him and the US public, and / or, b.) did the FBI raid Trump’s home in search of potentially prosecutable documents (how? Trump was the president as is nominally allowed to possess such documents) and / or, c.) were they just fishing?
It seems to me the FBI took an enormous risk–one they would not have taken unless they were convinced they would find damaging (indictable) document gold.
So, I guess we’ll have to wait to Part 4 to find out the answer to this.
All of the above.
Perhaps they wanted to create a bad optic for President Trump
just prior to the midterms which obviously backfired
or this is one of the steps toward grand jury indictment
just prior to the midterms. They may want to demoralize
us into not voting in the midterms if our illustrious
leader is indicted. However, that would backfire also.
And then there is also the possibility this was the only
way for the corrupt government to remove
any incriminating evidence President Trump has
against the evil cabal.
It must be frustrating for them. Years of trying to make
President Trump look bad with all their lies and he
just keeps getting stronger.
Truly incredible work. It is an honor, really, to say thank you for all you do.
My personal view, is that once out of office, Trump should have released the documents. Second, knowing what he had, and likely knowing they would come for him at some point, why didn’t he store them offsite. Make copies. And why did the DOJ wait two years. None of that still makes any sense.
there is no better explanation out there than what Sundance has presented herein so far (Part 1, Part2, Part3).
the burden of action to cure now rests with America’s next generation – we the people.
“If not us, who?. If not now, when?”~JFK
I am not seeing a pathway out of this corruption for “we the people” through President Trump. The 4th branch is in control of everything. Even if the GOPe retakes the House and Senate in 2023 there are too many in the GOPe who are controlled by the 4th branch. They already have the goods on too many in office for them to effect the changes needed to get the country out of this dictatorship by the 4th branch.
Who or how will the DOJ/FBI ever be brought to it’s knees when they have the ability to destroy anyone in their way? The reach of these people is deep and they are willing to do anything to protect their power and control. They don’t care who they destroy or kill to achieve their means.
It seems to me that anything accomplished by the good guys will be nothing more than lipstick on a pig. I’d love to know there is a way to take down the 4th branch but I don’t see the path to do it.
The path forward consists of citizen involvement. Waiting on P Trump to do the heavy lifting is failure.
– get involved
– vote
– resist
– speak out
– donate time and $$
– exercise your 1A and 2A rights.
We are frustrated because we mere citizen voters do not know
what the laws are regarding what the President can and cannot do.
If one does something the evil uniparty doesn’t approve of, the president
is threatened with impeachment or worse.
The DOJ, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, CDC, NIH,
and on and on are huge complexes that seem to run without any
oversight. The criminals have run amuck because of no consequences.
George Soros reportedly spent millions getting crooked DA’s
installed in crucial cities. Obama worked on corrupt judges.
And, here we are.
I am sickened by them all! Oh, and I am self reporting to whomever is reading our posts for the completely corrupt fbi/doj. I am proudly flying the Betsy Ross flag over my house once again.
Jovan Pulitzer has a theory about the 8/8/22 raid date. He claims the FBI/DOJ was to provide to the senate docs pertaining to Senator Grassley whistleblowers.
I wonder if the agencies responded on 8/8
Straight up harassment. Mar a lago unlivable now
they need a priest to come in and bless Mara lago
exorcise the evil vibes that is left over from the FBI
You read too much bullsh*t.