If I had to hazard a guess about what this was, I’d say it is most likely: (a) part of the massive Ukrainian stores of mortars and landmines in eastern Ukraine that were moved in order to keep the Russians from capturing them; or (b) the actual arms that were captured by Russian and then sold on the world arms market. Either way, somehow, they end up as part of an arms deal from Serbia to Bangladesh.
With the new and improved western weapons provided by the United States, Ukraine is likely upgrading and selling their old weapons to various nefarious arms dealers.
This shipment happened to crash, and that’s the only reason we are hearing about it.
(Via Daily Mail) – Soldiers in hazmat suits searched for signs of nuclear and chemical substances at the crash site of a Ukrainian cargo plane transporting nearly a dozen tons of mortar shells and land mines.
The Antonov An-12 light aircraft, which was transporting the weapons from Serbia to Bangladesh, had eight Ukrainian crew members onboard. They were all killed.
An official at Kyiv cargo operator Meridian told Reuters: ‘Of course they didn’t survive this.’ Eyewitnesses filmed the fireball crash in the early hours today, with explosions continuing for two hours and the charred wreckage burning until morning.
Drone images from the scene showed debris from the bulking aircraft strewn in fields. Serbia’s defense minister said the plane was carrying 11.5 tonnes of products made by its defense industry and the buyer was Bangladesh defense ministry. Greek authorities could not provide any more information on the aircraft’s cargo. (more)
Previously Russia was reporting to have captured a massive Ukranian military weapons cache near Kharkov (northeastern Ukraine). I wrote about it HERE. However, the video (partial screengrab below) was quickly removed by the internet police.
The doomed weapons shipment supposedly originated from Serbia, so the original source could be either Ukraine or Russia. Who knows? Amid all of the propaganda, Ukraine corruption and furious U.S. arms shipments into Ukraine, there are multiple sketchy participants likely involved in selling the arms on the global black market.
FUBAR
So many moving parts, and the only part of slo Joe that is moving is his tongue to his ice cream cone.
Cheers!
At least it’s not toward another child.
Zelensky is still killing the children.
Sorry Miya….
I misunderstood your comment.
Agree…better an ice cream cone than a child.
Biden is a pervert.
He’s a kleptopedophile… he compulsively gropes little girls (and boys too?).
Why is Biden even in this conversation?
$57 Billion and counting to provide arms to the Ukraine. That is in the frame whenever arms and Ukraine are in the same sentence regardless of the words.
How’s the negotiated settlement with Russia coming along? I can still recall the VietNam Peace Talks … where they were arguing over the shape of the table the Party’s would sit at … Has Zelensky settled on a table shape yet?
Yes! I believe they all agreed it would look like this: 💩
Follow the eye focus.
Russia continues gaining ground in Ukraine as US, NATO pour in weapons to prolong the inevitable
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-07-17-russia-gains-ground-us-nato-prolong-inevitable.html
(Natural News) It should become obvious by now to most people that the grinding war in Ukraine following Russia’s invasion has only one inevitable conclusion, and that is a victory by Moscow.
The only factors not yet known are how many more people are going to die and how much more of Ukraine will be totally destroyed before Russia’s victory.
Andrei Marochko, a representative of the LPR militia, said the city was being “cleared of Ukrainian nationalists” while adding that “victory flags have already been installed” near Lysychansk, as reported by CNN. Other reports, meanwhile, have said that local pro-Russian citizens have actually put up a Soviet flag at a central city monument, harkening back to the bad old days of the former Soviet Union (USSR).
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky issued a battlefield update last week, noting that more than 2,600 Ukrainian towns and cities are now under Moscow’s control.
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Ukraine is losing this war and the longer we supply Kyiv with weapons, the longer the killing will continue.
And also, that’ll be all the longer there’ll be 10% for the big guy.
Not to mention all the other grifters based in DC.
From a phone call I received from a friend last night
the 10% solution is gonna go on for quite some time.
My friend has a grandson in the service. Word is out that
they are on standby to be shipped overseas.
Now, where would that be?
Russia won this week’s ago. It’s a US state department operation at this point.
Always was.
They won it in the first 72 hours when they took out the vast majority of Ukraines air defences, and Strategic military hardware.
The U.S. has been responsible 100% for this on going human tragedy.
Same as Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc..
I appreciate and am grateful that the U.S. are neighbours however its rulers in Washington are international bullies, and may soon get their asses handed to them.
Russia ain’t playing patty cake.
Cheers!
Zelenskyy, a wannabe “Mouse That Roared,” is supported by US Taxpayers.
My name’s on this💰gift?
Hello! U hoo!
Are you there?
Zelensky is just another actor; a puppet on a string, playing the part that is being directed by…..
Unfortunately because we are paying the taxes for this… We americans are also puppets.
Sorry Ukraine, India, sorry Bangladesh. This is Disgusting and I did not give assent to these crimes
He’s a rat who demands corrupt US and NATO leaders for mo’ money!
It won’t be russia slapping the US it’ll be China.
They did that November 2020. Now seems like a mop up operation with their “stakeholder” buddies in WEF and Democratic Party. Thanks to LE agencies and Generals Like Milley. Such treacherous betrayal. Mr. Quisling will be replaced as the avatar of treason.
Not so fast.
Amen brother, no argument here.
Not the US. Davos.
And the difference is . . . ?
The point is, the thing has OUR country’s despicable government’s NAME on it! The whole world sees THAT, not “Davos.”
And at least the whole world is learning the truth about this despicable and laughing-stock government and its “leaders.” With growing mockery even among us, these “leaders” will be out by hook or crook soon.
Not soon enough. Never mind “Build Back Better.” Will these evil people leave enough to re-build to rationality and prosperity and peace?
Same actors as the past two Ukrainian “Color Revolutions”. State Dept / See Eye Eh / NGOs (soros) Oh…and Cho Xiden. Obama’s Ukraine Czar. The creator of the Ukraine
Anti-Corruption BureauWho immediately came out in support of Ukraine this time? – Hillary, Quid Pro Joe, Victoria and Gyorgy. Same old same old.
Now they’ve imported what they learned and are attempting to create the same sort of scenarios right back here at home in the good ole US of A.
Aid flights from more then one country have no Aid on the flights and employees in Italy have openly protested to bring attention to this
I am praying that we can educate enough people and let them know what is happening.
It’s impossible that a Ukrainian nationalist put up a Soviet flag as a protest. Ukrainian nationalists don’t lie or deceive.
How quickly and easily people are conned by Zelenskyy, Ukrainian Nazis and MSM.
Some people in Novorossia consider the old Soviet battle flag as a symbol of war against Nazism, remembering that this is the Victory flag that was flying over Berlin in 1945
“Ah, but the longer we prolong this, the MORE weopons we can funnel to Ukraine, that Zalenski can sell on the “black market”, and Joe gets his 10 percent, Congress gets their cut, and everybody is HAPPY!”
I saw a report on The Duran last week that discussed massive Russian artillery barrages targeting Ukraine troop formations, and that this was generating many casualties. Someone reported the smell of burning human beings was detectable miles away from the cauldron. It occurred to me that this long distance attrition tactic could be the response to the supply of whiz-bang weapons like javelin antitank missiles. Maybe the Russian tactical response is to kill many more troops because they can do that from a distance that does not threaten their armies. What then is the value of high tech weapons if it just means more death? Ask Victorian Nuland, or Adam Schiff…I am sure they care deeply.
Something our State Department and Jake Sullivan need to consider, and consider hard is that those burning bodies are of some Ukrainian father’s son and mother’s son who was conscripted at gunpoint, poorly trained, and herded to the front at gunpoint and abandoned by his “leaders” there to die.
With the exception of the Banderite “militias,” it seems that the Ukrainian army is mostly made up of guys that they drag in from the street these days. I’ve read many of their accounts. It’s criminal.
That this country, the USA, would supply the means to continue the dismemberment, destruction, and burning of other human beings who were unwillingly forced to don uniforms and “fight” Russia solely so that our leaders(TM) could collect paychecks is unconscionable.
“Enless war? End THIS war!” Remember that old saw from the good old bad old “W” days? Well, yeah. END THIS WAR!
“What then is the value of high tech weapons if it just means more death?”
Profits for the proprietors and their sales force (politicians).
The value in the high tech weapons is what Ukraine sells them for on the black market. There is little if any accountability as to where and to whom our weapons paid for by you and I go to. Ukraine arguably the 4th most corrupt nation in the world.
Win or lose. The Politicians always win. $$$
The trouble is of course is that Biden…Truss….Zelensky…….. have all got whole lot of talk………. but no actual skin in the game.
‘We’ should be translated as ‘YOU’……… You will die to the last man……. You will never give up……You ….you you…..
There is no WE about it cos ‘WE’ will all be taken to another place and given protection and YOU will die by a firing squad or the hundreds of mortars that are gonna be landing on you again this week.
Personally the only way I would ever fight a war is if the guy who started it is standing right next to me in battle….till then you better fight your own.
It’s not about winning.
It about laundering money and the BBB global plan as Sundance has outlined.
Period.
Moved.
Yeah, Alex Christoforou (Greek in Cypress) says the chatter is that the flight probably had nothing to do with Bangladesh. Also, says the Zaporizhzhia Avenger is almost certainly another urban legend.
Greece, Antonov plane crash. Zaporizhzhia Avenger destroys 6 Russian planes. Update 2
https://rumble.com/v1cmd6x-greece-antonov-plane-crash.-zaporizhzhia-avenger-destroys-6-russian-planes..html
You mean to tell me there is no bustling arms trade between close allies Serbia and Bangladesh, two nations with deep historic ties, a common heritage, and the second longest active alliance?
Who’s the first most active alliance, if they are the second? The Eskimos and Madagascarians?
yeah, the Eskimos sell them ice
it’s hot down there, you know
And Bangladesh is a wealthy country, with plenty of $ to pay for these arms, which ain’t cheap, right?
This is like Fast/Furious exposure, on a much bigger scale.
“Damn, its always SOMETHING!”
Good post Sherri!
I had not seen your link to Alex Christoforou’s report before I posted it, as well.
Everyone, please do give attention to Alex’s report.
All of his video reports are excellent.
Does this “Zaporizhzhia Avenger” pilot a red Fokker Tri-Plane or does he pilot a flying doghouse?
This Fokker flies a Messerschmitt.
Just read about this at CFP.
The misinfo trolls are saying, ” Like hey man, cant you guys read? Like duuuuh! They were made in Serbia, and sold to Bangladesh, and brought there by a Ukrainian plane, like cant anyone here read? Hurrr Duuuur! “….
LOL!
As if it is just that simple. Those trolls are either really stupid, or they think we are, not sure. 🙂
On other sites, the readers might be MUCH LESS informed than the Treepers here🤔
However, there appears to be more cross pollination of information among multiple sites.
Have noticed that Treepers are referencing Sundance’s articles for a deeper analysis of a given subject.
The Masters of War will not be happy.
The good news of this story is that the weapons will not be used to murder people.
Hopefully there be more shipments of weapons leaving the war zone for other places in the world that are destroyed in transit.
I’m paying a large percentage of my income as taxes, so weapons purchases can enrich the military industrial complex, and so weapons can be sent to Bangladesh.
Something about our system of government isn’t working.
Oh wait.
Nathaniel Hawthorne in 1851 wrote in The House of the Seven Gables that American democracy is a farce because the SAME INDUSTRIAL POWERS own both candidates, so that the voters only seem to have a choice.
Nothing has changed since Hawthorne made that observation.
“Government by the people” is only a propaganda slogan.
Pascal, when I was a kid I had a pack of playing cards called “Authors”. It was basically crazy eights but with classical authors. Each card has the best selling books of that author and I remember “House” being on Hawthorne’s card. In my life I have read many of those books but I will make it a point to read “House”!
Blue collar, I loved Authors growing up. Was just thinking about it the other day and how educational it was. Thank you for bringing it up,
Quite ironic that the Ukrainian Nazis were killed while shipping arms in a Russian made aircraft.
It won’t be long before the U.S. supplied arms fall into the hands of terrorists that will then kill our children.
It’s just as ironic as what happened last week in Kansas. An old U.S. Army ammunition plant site vacant for decades, created when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, has been chosen as the new site for a $4 billion Panasonic (Japanese) EV battery manufacturing plant. Full circle.
The irony is real. And the jobs will be, too, and the product will at least be made in the U.S.
There have already been Javelins on the dark web for 30K.
Seen reports that the French CEASAR that Russia now has “custody” of was bought for 800,000.00 dollars.
A big market for arms and ammunition in Asia and Europe.
Small correction.
A HIMARS system went for $800,000.00 to the Russians. Apparently it included the accompanying support vehicle.
The two 155mm CEASARs went for considerably less, at $120,000 each. They are around the 5-7 million mark per system, when sold new.
“Such a deal I have for you !”
Remember that Chevy Chase movie “Deal of the Century” from the early eighties? That’s what this reminds me of.
Thanks!
You are right.
😉
The HIMARS sale is the fake news.
“The Antonov An-12 light aircraft, which was transporting the weapons from Serbia to Bangladesh, had eight Ukrainian crew members onboard. They were all killed. “
Sundance, looks more like possibility A than possibility B as the crew was Ukrainian.
The Americans will be investigating the site of the crash. Case closed.
An Antonov AN 12 is anything but a “light” aircraft. It is a heavy lift medium range 4 engine transport directly comparable to a Lockheed C-130 Hercules.
The Soviet designed plane was last manufactured in the Soviet Union in 1973. Upon the Red Chinese – Soviet divorce the Chinese reverse engineered the plane and they continued the manufacturing of the AN 12 from 1974 onwards.
It would be highly likely the crashed AN 12 was actually built in China but the MSM would certainly enjoy referring to a Soviet Union designed and Red Chinese built airplane as “Russian built” if it crashes although it was never designed or built in a country called Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-12
Light compared to C-5 or C-17 I’m guessing.
The Greeks and the Serbs would not be averse to Russian aircraft over their skies. However the level of corruption in the Ukraine is also a factor.
It is actually quite amazing to see how steady Putin is in this situation. He is meeting his goals, even with all of the games of the west. And it seems the laundering is becoming more obvious to all. Putin is serious about protecting his country. The others are serious about lining their own pockets and gaining more power.
I wish that he would expose these people more. He probably thinks that he needs to keep secrets for future interactions, but I would remind him China is not a reliable friend. He needs the US on his side and could gain much in good feelings by revealing what I believe he knows about the plots of our criminal WEF crowd. But that would reveal some things about his new and dangerous ally, China.
Putin is not a good guy either. He is trying to regain the land the Russians consider “Holy Russia.” His facade of restoring Christianity via the Orthodox church is actually allowing the church as long as it is an arm of the state (the recent saints and for whom new churches are named are military heroes). He is “pro family” and disavows homosexuality that is open, but allows it if discreet and the practitioners do not entice minors. Russia has the highest abortion rate of any western nation. Prostitution is rampant in the cities. Putin has been influenced by many philosophers, but he is still a socialist/communist. The Russian people like a strongman at the head of state.
I think you are speaking of Putin that you wish would expose more. He actually has exposed a lot, but he is being blown off like it’s all “disinformation.” There are some very compelling speeches he has given over the last months that you will find if you look a bit, but that almost no one is posting. Right now there simply is no justice–but there will be.
I love paying taxes so the government can destroy us, whether through arms sales to those who hate us or covid lockdowns or shutting down free speech and aiming to take away our guns or making energy so green it’s not available or if it is we can’t afford it or through a myriad of other ways.
Same here in Canada…get sly like a fox.
Quietly as best as you can withdraw your consent to be governed and get of the treadmill as much as possible.
Then strike like a viper..and retreat and then repeat.
It’s enjoyable 😉
They are destroying you via taxes… it’s their #1 lever to push you into poverty.
Problem is it is widespread fraud against the people of the USA…. top down to the bottom.
The locals are as bad as the state and federal level.
Taxes at this point are mostly theoretical. They have not passed a budget in years and of course pay no mind to any thing like fiscal limitations. Their positions of prestige and command are totally reliant upon violence and printing money. This was another, important weaponization by Obama and his monopolist buddies at BlackRock. Our currency is now our enemy. To buy is to feed one’s enemy.
Exactly. I was reading an article about the disappearance of the local “residential hotel” that used to provide medium to longterm evidence for seasonal workers at resorts, temp homeless people (like single moms in a divorce), etc. Nobody could figure out why, as they told a tory after story of GOV’T INTERVENTION, REGULATION, AND TAXATION, that destroyed the market, or made them unworkable.
Nor one commenter saw govt as the cause of the problem. Amazing.
There is something not correct with that plane suddenly falling out of the sky. There may have been an ordinance explosion on board the aircraft.
A ball of fire in the sky. The pilot barely had time to speak with the Control Tower. And then, big boom.
Someone spill some vodka onto a cell phone charger?
G-d bless the families of the crew
Meridian 3032
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MEM3032
unable to locate flight history prior to July 6 (UK, birmingham)
unable to determine final scheduled flight details.
http://mem.aero/pages/about.html
greece atomic energy agency officials are on scene (this is not to imply there are fisible material..it’s likely these same officials have training and proper chem suits and collection gear to measure and collect evidence at scene. the cross over with conventional weapons and fissible material handling is expected)
Anyone notice the point it did a 180 degree turn back towards where it came from in Serbia? Right where shipping comes out of the straits from the Black Sea. I wonder if there were any Russian Federation associated ships in that area. Possible scenario it developed mechanical problems and attempted to return to the nearest airfield but due to it having 11.5 tons of dangerous munitions it was forced to land in some remote field and exploded upon contact with the ground.
Or it was hit by some “kamikaze” drone which forced it to descend and crash. A drone launched and piloted from some ship in that area able to monitor arms shipments and flights being managed out of Ukrainian companies like Meridian LLC by the fleet of Antonov An-12 medium lift cargo aircraft. It has that six degree of plausible deniability going on so I’m sure we’ll never know what really happened, and the crew will never talk either. Just another data point to remember for future events if you write a book on the history of what led up to world war three.
in flight engine failure, declared emergency… diverted to nearest airport…never made it..
They almost made it. At one point they were only a foot above the ground.
I’m betting it was shot down. Who shot it down is the bigger question to me.
The longer it goes on the more tragic and dangerous it becomes. There are reports that the Ukraine government is now conscripting women to send to the front lines with the men. This is barbaric. No reason for any of this now except that the U.S. Government is filled with sociopaths. This should have already ended. Hopefully some Ukrainian leaders in the military who are sane will force Zelensky out, sue for peace and stop allowing the U.S./NATO to lead them to destruction. Stop the needless killing of Ukrainians and Russians.
Not to mention the possibility of an eventual nuclear exchange.
We must remember that Zelensky outlawed any and all opposition parties.
I read ( not confirmed) a few political foes are under house arrest, and Zelensky controls all official media.
All this condoned supported even, by the U.S.
😏
I guess next they will be sending children. I am sure the U.S. won’t have any problem with that either.
I hear Zelensky is up for a Grammy. Stay tuned on that!
They do all this to defend democracy, don’t you know. How long can this level of absurdity continue?
Zelenskyy followng the methods of jobama…..
Condoned and supported by the US because the US is using them as a blueprint.
I hope for that also.
Doesn’t look promising. Last couple days he has been firing a lot of people. Including some top brass.
Others he is prosecuting…something like 691 people.
I am still hoping for a coup…by the Ukrainian military.
They are sending women to the front lines, I have seen some via a contact I have. Not sure if they are mandatory, or volunteer.
Ukraine is a woke country so they might be sending “birthing people”.
Are they certain its women?
How do they know?
Did they send a crack team of biologists?
11 Tons of Bombs, Mortars and Landmines
Musta been one helluva explosion.
One needs to ask why the immediate response was to look for chemical and/or nuclear materials???
eyewitness video …voice over narration that generally tracks with other open source reporting.
Was just watching this video, in the opening seconds, showing the flight map, how do we trust that the flight was headed to Bangladesh and not to the border area between Syria and Turkey?
flight filed …
considering this aircraft was transponder active and showed up on open source reporting (flightaware and others) means there was no deliberate action to conceal the flight.
covert or secret flights (military or private military contract) do not file flight plans nor do they broadcast the type of transponder freq’s that open source reporting such as flightaware are capable of tracking.
that it was flying the file flight plan, and was tracked from launch to crash means there was no deliberate actions taken to conceal the aircraft route.
if you notice this carrier is specifically engaged in UN and peacekeeping type duty. And there are other contract aircraft that do the same. Very few of them actually flight “dark”. They few that do, are not tracked, and you would never know about them even if they crashed. there would be a cover story based on the sensitivity of the mission and or cargo/purpose.
jmho
Even classified missions file flight plans, just that they’re, well classified. And aircraft that fly dark have special systems that ensure their stealth, and designators in their model numbers to identify them. Not that it would be publicized in a press release.
And as there’s a “war” on, I’d think transporting 11 tons of munitions/weapons would constitute a classified flight. Even during peacetime that’s not something to broadcast.
So Ukrainian cargo planes are free to come and go from the country at will, carrying large tonnage of explosives? Doesn’t sound like much of a war to me.
I am sure if they were selling these items on the black market it was just so they could repay the U.S. taxpayers for all they have stolen from them in the last six moths.
To be fair they didn’t really steal anything, our politicians are just for sale to anyone and anything but us
The neocons have been rather lively lately, this sort of global unrest fills them with glee
Au contraire. It is theft when it is based on lies. Remember, the best narrative wins?
Plus, the maladministration in charge is a fraud in and of itself. They are treasonous usurpers and every country out there knows it. BUT, as long as we are handing out cash and bombs and ammo like candy, their hands are outstretched.
OK, I’ll bite. Here’s another take on this whole WW III mess.
The Ukie-pukes running Ukraine into the ground and getting all of the Ukrainian men killed spun a fake narrative via the cross-dresser from Rocky Horror Picture Show that they have fronting for their government. They told fabrications (erm, lies) to the US Congress (remember Cruella De Ville, um, er, The Drinker of the House, Nazi Piglousy, and her massive Zoom call leading the US Congress to chant Slava Ukrainia before ZZZZZ addressed them? Yeah, ZZZZ’s narrative was a lie spun to US lawmakers.)
That is a scheme to defraud. So, ZZZZ and his Ukie-puke crime family government conspired to defraud the US taxpayer. The criminals then executed their plan and actually defrauded the US taxpayer when the duped and lied-to CONgress approved billions in aid to further what were presented by the Ukie-pukes as noble and just goals in a just and great war against the evil aggressor terrorist nation of Russia.
So, I submit, the Ukie-pukes running Ukraine into the ground and killing thousands of normal, average, hapless Ukrainians, conspired to defraud and actually did defraud the US of the billions in taxpayer funds that were sent to them under NOW demonstrably false pretenses.
My deepest and sincerest apologies and condolences to the Ukrainian people for the massive hurt and loss the “government” of the USA has inflicted upon them.
TwoLaine – shouldn’t your moniker be “Legal President #46”?
He was 45 back when they were yelling “Peach Fotey-Fi” at him
Is The Kenyan 43 and 44?
PDJT is still “45”. Fraud vitiates everything.
Here are the official explanation, and explanations from independent military analysts, from Greece:
https://theduran.com/greece-antonov-plane-crash-zaporizhzhia-avenger-destroys-6-russian-planes-update-2/
Much to digest and mull over…
Think of $80B of armaments left in Afghanistan. The United States armaments from Afghanistan will be killing people around the world (and in the US) for at least 50 years to come. This saddens me greatly. All those who voted for, and cheated for, own responsibility for the imbecility that left so much munitions in the hands of cruel people. On the bright side, we don’t have mean tweets.
Biden should have been impeached over the Afghanistan debacle alone. There are so many blatant impeachable offenses committed by this administration, it’s hard to keep track. Yet, they had to make up some flimsy BS to impeach PDJT.
Another imbecile would take Bidens place. Their bench is deep. Joe doesn’t know what is going on. Really, who is POTUS? I am waaaay against impeachment. I want the powers that be to get outted by imbecile Biden.
Understood…. Still … how about treason just for starters and we can get to the other swamp creatures later?
I remember him at Dover, the videos of him checking his watch.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/30/biden-ripped-for-apparently-looking-at-watch-at-troops-ceremony/
If that had been my son’s remains being flown home because of Bribe’em’s SNAFU in Kabul and he stupidly checked the time as my son was being brought down, I would be on death row right now.
allegedly mean tweets
Odd to read the first sentence from Sundance’s post and that Boris is now gone. Dunno.
“British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised more weapons for Ukraine according to Reuters. “British Prime Minister Boris Johnson spoke to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Saturday to confirm Britain will supply fresh weaponry to support Ukraine’s defence against Russia’s invasion.” (link)
This is a fascinating story that will be interesting to follow. There are a lot of rumors about what weapons, where they were really going, and what country was behind the shipment. Your suggestion that these are pilfered or captured weapons being sold by Ukraine or Russia is one I haven’t read, but it is certainly a possibility.
According to Rybar on Telegram, the weapons transaction was through a company (Valir arms company) registered in Belgrade in December, 2019, with revenue of 1.5 billion in 2020 and in 2021 as much as 6.5 billion. Officially, the owner and director is Mladen Bogdanovich, but the Montenegrin media say that the real owner is Slobodan Tesic, an international arms dealer who was put under US sanctions 15 days before the opening of Valir arms company.
The transport plane flew for a Ukrainian company, Meridian, and the 8 crew members were Ukrainian.
Greek alternative media sources (quoted by Alex Christoforou from pronews.gr) posit that the shipment of arms was destined for Ukraine, possibly through Poland, possibly directly to Ukraine. They note that Meridian often flew flights for NATO.
Yes, if you think hard enough, an aircraft going south east over the Aegean Sea is probably deceptively on it’s way to Poland/Ukraine.
That makes sense, but I was repeating above information and speculation online about the crash.
Lots of talk about DRUG trafficing, and HUMAN trafficing, not so much about ARMS trafficing which may be the most lucrative of all.
And, the MOST lucrative, is to sell to entities that can’t make their purchases ‘legally’; terrorist organisations, war lords, cartels, etc.
Their is a whole process, with “End User Certificates” which are SUPPOSED to insure the weopons don’t “get into the wrong hands” and the Insane Idiots In Charge have put “military grade weoponry” into the hands of the Drug Cartels, the Afghan Taliban, ISIS, and with this Ukraine adventure, God only knows who else.
And, they have been doing this, for YEARS.
The fact that it was a Ukrainian aircraft, manned by a Ukrainian crew, presents some obvious probabilities.
Or C). Weapons from Serbia and Greece, whose ultimate destination was Ukraine.
We should try some logic here. Ukraine is running out of weapons……but their citizens, their plane, is taking 11.5 tons of weapons to….Bangladesh??? Seriously??
And I thought joebama just recent banned land mines from of U.S. weapons arsenal?!
I see that the nwo depstste neocons are up too their continued arming of questionable if not bad players?!
Bangladesh shares a border with Myanmar. CCP uses Myanmar as a oil/gas transit. The weapons were to keep the war there in business for business.
As if Myanmar isn’t in on some of the worst genocides, use of child soldiers, and forced diaspora of ethnic minorities (not just Rohingya.)
Who doesn’t remember the Htoo twins, Johnny and Luther, who at 10 y.o. led the ethnic Karen “God’s Army” against the Myanmar Army? Acknowledged, this was a Myanmar Thai border conflict, however, Myanmar caused another ethnic minority to lose its home and be forced to the West in a diaspora.
Here’s where they are now:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/world/asia/myanmar-thailand-gods-army-htoo-twins.html
Ok, so if you’re at war for your country’s survival (or last least part of it) and you’re losing territory, why would you be selling weapons????
Serbia to Bangladesh via Greece? Probably the only part of this story that has anything to do with “Bangladesh,” is the flight plan that was on file as cover. Look at a map. The destination was more likely northern Africa – PLO perhaps.
Crete?
I just wonder if US markings are all over everything recoverable in/on that plane? I am really fed up with the CIA plastering our name all over everything and wreaking havoc and destruction!
Sorry for the loss of the 8 Ukrainian lives, but I am glad to know about this one, and I wonder how much more is going on.
It’s obvious the bastards are itching for more war; I guess they’ll only stop when they blow the entire world up.
In the time of crisis by ATF. Forget the food.
one site reported that the shipment of arms was headed to the Ukraine from Serbia and that Russia is aware of this.
‘Raymond Reddington’ won’t be happy with this loss.
Reddington OPPOSES the Cabal, so he may have been the cause of this Ukrainian weapons shipment’s demise!
Where is the dude playing a piano in Kyiv for peace? Imagine all the people…
Radar shows the aircraft on a line between Nis in Serbia and first planned stopover in Jordan. Not only did the crew post their flight plan, they also followed it transponder on and all, till a failure occured, and they turned around, heading for Kavala in Northern Greece.
The Serbian minister for defense has declared, that the shipment was legal in all aspects. Could be true, because why else would he get himself involved that way. There is nothing strange, mystical, criminal or clandestine about a country buying a small truckload of (rather basic) munitions from another country and having them shipped with the probably cheapest operator available.
Quick get another 20 billion to the Ukraine.
This is lunacy at a grand scale
That’s a shame… We really could have used those here in the US shortly.
It’s possible the munitions were given to Ukraine/Zelensky by the Biden Admin. and he’s selling them to Africans for cash.
FUBAR is right! The only correct description for this!
I went to the 4/23 article SD linked us to above. I read comments and found the video I believe SD refers to. It was provided by commenter KlubMarcus.
https://rumble.com/v11yvqq-a-large-arsenal-of-the-afu-was-captured-by-the-armed-forces-of-the-russian-.html?mref=8e7sx&mrefc=11
Not one single opportunity for grift will be overlooked. The “advanced American weapons” will of course be the next to be sold off.
sounds illegal
Lindsey Graham’s care package to “Bangladesh” has been…delayed.
Were any of these weapons furnished by Walter Hussein OBiden?
Most likely, the Ukro-Nazis are selling the weapons that US taxpayers paid for to the highest bidder (including the Russians) and pocketing the proceeds.
Thank you, Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Neocon-infested Uniparty.
First … a shipment to Bangladesh = a shipment to ISLAMIC activists working inside India and/or headed the other direction towards Myanmar. Either way this is not good.
My bet is on Ukraine as ships to Bangladesh is a DIRECT slap at BRICS member and friend of Russia, India. Recent islamic violence in India is traced directly to groups operating out of and supported by Bangladesh.
Yet, a shipment from Christian Serbia to Islamic Bangladesh, where multiple Islamic Terrorist Organizations are very active, does not quite add up either.
There is something not quite adding up here.
With the US turning over a $4 Trillion Dollar base of operations to the Muslim Brotherhood in Afghanistan and BRICS member India sandwiched between Islamic Republics of Pakistan and Bangladesh … things are about to go very kinetic inside India and possibly Russian as well as China Inc. regions bordering Afghanistan.
This smells like the CIA brokering a sale to attack India and BRICS.
Russia got wind of it and boom.
The HQ of BRICS is located in New Dehli, India.
Lord of War! Movie scene.
There are 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation, that’s one firearm for every 12 people on the planet. The only question is, how do we arm the other eleven.
I would say we now know how they are arming the other eleven. Hillary used Libya to arm ISIS. Now they us Ukraine.
Since when do hazmat suits protect from radiation? Clown world.
“Soldiers in hazmat suits searched for signs of nuclear and chemical substances…”
You are right about radiation … however, the suits would protect from radioactive debris being deposited on the body or being inhaled as well as ingested, which is just a important and useful if the radiation levels and dose rates were below dangerous levels … this would give the wearer some time on location to work before total radiation dose absorbed started reaching medically dangerous levels.
I’m gonna go on a hunch and say that the plane was likely overloaded and crashed due to that. As we all know, ammunition isn’t light.
Agree. The AN-12 was most likely loaded over gross! The combination of overloading and high density altitude due to hot weather most likely contributed to the crash.. Also, an inexperience flight crew (Ukrainian) equaled DISASTER. But…if the Ukrainians are SO DESPERATE for weapons to fight Russia, why would they have allowed any munitions shipment to go to BANGLADESH? I guess the Deep State KNOWS that Joe BRANDON will send them more and more, so why noi sell off what they can for BIG PROFITS at the expense of the American taxpayer?
consistent with the story that russia bought a ukrainian himars with rockets for eight cents on the dollar from corrupt ukrainian military ($800,000 for the ten million dollar combo).