Senator Lindsey Graham (U-DC) was apparently in Turkey around the same time as the NATO summit. According to a Twitter announcement by Graham he has returned to the U.S. hopeful to close the deal on selling F-16”s to Turkey now that Turkish President Recep Erdogan has removed opposition to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
“I will do all in my power to support the Biden Administration’s decision to sell F-16s to the Turkish Air Force,” Graham writes.
Also adding, “These fighter jets, in the hands of our NATO allies, will create a sense of stability and provide capability to the Turkish military that is most definitely in America’s national security interests.” {link}
On Tuesday of last week Turkey removed their block of Sweden and Finland from joining NATO, and on Wednesday Joe Biden agreed to sell Turkey 40 Lockheed Martin-made F-16 fighters and nearly 80 modernization kits for its existing warplanes:
Newsmax – The Biden administration threw its support on Wednesday behind the potential sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey, a day after Ankara lifted a veto of NATO membership for Finland and Sweden.
Celeste Wallander, Assistant Secretary for Defense for International Security Affairs at Pentagon, said strong Turkish defense capabilities would reinforce NATO’s defenses.
“The United States supports Turkey’s modernization of its fighter fleet because that is a contribution to NATO security and therefore American security,” she said. (read more)
Finland now represents an additional 1,340 km (830 mi) long direct border with Russia. The border runs mostly through uninhabited taiga forests and sparsely populated rural areas.
Graham is the president and sole member of his fan club.
John McCain does have an absentee membership.
…With voting privileges as well.
McCain’s purpose was to show Ms. Lindsey the ropes!
Ol’ Lindsey is to a vacuole ..what McCain was to a single-celled brain.
mitt romney wanted to join but was blackballed as too conceited.
Can we get Ukraine to give up the goods on US politicians before they join NATO?
Right now Ukraine is too busy blackmailing Brandon to give up the goods. FJB
whatever ukraine gets will be soon destroyed or captured by the russians. ukraine is losing at an accelerating clip.
Excellent idea!
There is something, not quite sure yet, wrong with your comment. Ukraine is Zelensky. Zelensky was put in power there by the US to aid and abet money laundering operations. So, why would Ukraine/Zelensky bite the hand that feeds him. My true frustration is, because both sides of the aisle have their pelosis’, mccains, grahams, mcConnels, Shiiffs, shumers we should have a media of investigative, 4th estate journalists vying for the truth. We have none of that (with apologies to the handful that still are). If we had the 4th estate , we wouldn’t have the mess we have now. Someone smarter than me has to figure out a way to get journalists to journalism again and abandon that rah-rah , hooray for our team as both teams (the country) are circling the drain.
you are part of one of the next generation of journalists right now. is there a better investigative journalist than sundance? don’t think so. and we are all his helpers, should we so choose. that is the beauty and strength of the internet. we don’t need printing presses, newsprint, delivery trucks, film cameras, tv studios, advertising and marketing departments, etc., etc. a smart phone or computer and a little knowledge is sufficient.
though an on the level search engine with the power of the code that beat the human jeopardy players would be very useful. any takers? seems like if you avoided a cia snuff you’d be very rich drinking google, bing, yahoo, etc. milkshakes.
Celeste Wallander, Assistant Secretary for Defense for International Security Affairs at Pentagon, said strong Turkish defense capabilities would reinforce NATO’s defenses. With all the provocation being done by NATO, that could be a good idea.
And our children and grand children will pay the price. FJB, FNATO.
wouldn’t surprise me if a few years down the line turkey withdraws from nato and joins the russia, iran, china, etc., etc. domain.
Why would we continue to arm terrorist with our technology ?
Judging just from the comments here, your very insightful question (I assume rhetorical) is not widely shared by Americans, very few of whom have the first clue about true evil in general and the evil of (ALL) islam in particular.
You saw someone here who was in favor of arming Muslim countries?
Sadly yeas-mostly in the context of strengthening NATO against the evil Russkies. I continue to be amazed and disappointed by the number of “patriots” falling for the cat laser of the Ukraine narrative being pushed by our wannabe masters.
I of course as a cold (and hot) warrior in my 33 years as an infantry Marine officer will always see USSR/Russia as the existential enemy it has been since 1918 but the over the top pro Ukrainian propaganda being pushed by our mortal globalist enemies is very transparent to me.
Happen to agree. Ukrainians are not our friends. They want to belong to the New World Order. They don’t want independence.
You think Russia might have a bone to pick with the globalists after what they have done to their country over the last 100 years or so? I know Putin does, because he tossed Soros and all of his minions out of Russia. Told ’em he kill them if they ever set foot back in Russia. Wasn’t it the globalists committing those atrocities ever since they assassinated the royal family?
The globalists are dead set on wiping Russia and their people off the map for Putin punching them in the mouth and telling everyone they are a bunch a Satan worshippers.
Looks like they are in the same boat we are, as far as Soros is concerned. What’s that old saying… “The enemy of my enemy is an inevitable ally’? Or something to that effect… neither one of countries can afford to fall to the devil and his children.
Under your logic do you still shun Germany, Italy, Japan, all of whom were our enemies? “Russia” is a different country to USSR and is more Christian than the USA.
any clue as to the instigators of the half dozen yinon wars the u.s. has fought over the last generation?
Oh, forget Islam, that is so yesterday. It is hate America now.
Because that’s what we do these days…….don’t ya know. It is the ‘right thing to do’ even if they hate America.
because it`s very lucrative for our pols……
Lindsey Graham:
1) Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood supporter. Went over to Egypt with John McCain and tried to harangue and threaten the Egyptians into returning them to power. The Egyptians wanted to put them both on trial for supporting terrorism and trying to destroy Egypt.
pjmedia.com/blog/msm-blackout-egyptians-enraged-by-u-s-outreach-to-muslim-brotherhood/
MSM Blackout? Egyptians Enraged by U.S. Outreach to Muslim Brotherhood
2) Terrorist supporter. Worked to arm the so-called “rebels” in Syria who turned out to be ISIS, Al Qaeda, al Nusra and like minded. Far more people killed thanks to him and McCain and like minded.
3) Never meet an Endless War he didn’t fall head over heels in love with no matter how many American troops die or lose limbs for nothing achieved even remotely worth the price.
C_A And Osama tried to overthrow the current Turkish government and Linda expects them to play nice ?
Awful history, this little traitor!
Two thoughts: “Senator Lindsey Graham (U-DC)” 😂😂😂. So true.
So now Turkey is blackmailing the US with “ sell us fighter jets, and we’ll let more NATO members in.”
All Cabal members participating in the new FAVB (Foreign Affairs Via Blackmail) should be immediately impeached!
How they hate a Christian in Damascus! … and pretty much all over Turkeydom as well.
And how they will pay for it when Russia turns her guns upon them again! It is soothing to the heart to abuse England and France for interposing to save the Ottoman Empire from the destruction it has so richly deserved for a thousand years.
These degraded Turks and Arabs… When Russia is ready to war with them again, I hope England and France will not find it good breeding nor good judgment to interfere…
If ever an oppressed race [Christians] existed, it is this one we see fettered around us under the inhuman tyranny of the Ottoman Empire [Muslims] . I wish Europe would let Russia annihilate Turkey a little–not much, but enough to make it difficult to find the place again without a divining-rod or a diving-bell.
Quite excellent.
Warpig wallowing in waste and wickedness.
Sounds like American Politicians
I am a fan of alliteration!
Turkey has been getting more hawkish towards Greece to go after “contested islands”. Other than the Kurds Turkey has no other threat to need better warplanes. My bet is Miss Lindsay and FJB have just lit the fuse for hostilities in the Aegean. And I’m also betting the Greeks will side with the Russians in that conflict. This may come as no surprise but eastern Europe does not trust the US…..or more accurately the US state department.
Greece Is Deploying Israeli Systems To Counter Turkish Drones
Greece has secretly implemented a “veritable umbrella against enemy unmanned aerial vehicles” over islands and other important sites across the country during the past two months, Vassilis Nedos wrote in the Greek daily Kathimerini.
The system uses Israeli technology to blind drones and disrupt their flight plans.
Built by Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, the Drone Dome specializes in countering enemy drones by jamming their communications and GPS.
For fully autonomous drones, it uses an invisible 10-kw. laser that can down drones up to two miles away.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2022/07/03/greece-is-deploying-israeli-systems-to-counter-turkish-drones/?sh=70301ca6165e
Good idea, Miss Lindsey! Sell Turkey US made fighter jets while they also use Russian made S-400 SAM missiles. What could possibly go wrong?
Why doesn’t Turkey want the newer F-35?
They do, but the US wouldn’t sell them to them previously…. Not sure about now, though?
Especially if the planes are not operational with armaments like the missiles sent to Ukraine that had no GPS or guidance systems on them.
I read that Miss Lindsey is encouraging President Trump to declare his candidacy now. Interesting-Miss Lindsey is a RINO who hates the MAGA wing, despite Hannity having him on to try to convince us otherwise, so it made me wonder why he’d do that. I then learned that if Trump declares now, he’ll be limited in his ability to raise funds and on how to use any funds he raises or has raised. So Miss Lindsey is trying to trick Trump to disadvantage him in the primaries.
And then you wonder why people like Pence and Pompeo would run for president. They know they don’t have a chance. But McConnell and Miss Lindsey think that they can pick off some voters who are on our side but don’t follow the issues closely. The kind who watch Fox but don’t know about sites like this and are unaware of the extent of the RINOs betrayal. People who like how Trump handled things generally, but maybe they’re outwardly very religious and identify more with Pence, or ex-military and identify more with Pompeo. They think they’ll get Trump policies but not the mean tweets. There aren’t enough of these people for Pence or Pompeo to come close to winning, but they will siphon away some votes. Watch for a lot more to enter the race. The GOPe is just scum. They are trying everything they can to put down MAGA like they did the tea party. It’s not going to work.
We’re not even to mid terms yet. Why all this talk about announcing a presidential run. I’m so sick of endless political campaigns!
The one thing wrong is that Pence is NOT religious. Tell me one thing he has ever done for anyone that he hasn’t brayed about to get praise……He doesn’t even act like a Christian, let alone religious.
The meanest man I ever encountered as a child carried the biggest Bible into church every Sunday. Pence — I would never trust him. Or his wife.
I certainly hope Trump is not talking to Lindsey.
Bravo analysis!
Anyone paying attention to international politics for the last 20 years knows Ukraine has been a slush fund for those with access. Looks to me like this one is carving out what’s left after the “big guy” gets his 10%.
Lindsey Graham is a Traitor as are a lot people about to be and being exposed. Linsy Graham is a cornered cat. His day of sunlight will be coming out of darkness in the not-too-distant future.
From your lips to God’s ears!
Praying that all these traitors are exposed.
Lindsey knows the pictures of him in the Ukraine are in Russian hands now.
L. Graham – the WAR AGATE!
So gawdawful as to be ground to dust!
Smoke and mirrors.
How old is that F16 technology, maybe they can buy Israel’s old ones and we can sell Israel F22’s that we couldn’t afford ourselves.
Pretty sure our F-15s and F-16s have been upgraded substantially. In fact, Turkey used one of them to shoot down a Russian fighter several years ago.
What could go wrong here? Selling high performance jets to an islamic state. When will we learn the bitter truths of the last 33 years that are so evident from our disastrous involvements with and against islamists?
NOTHING….GOOD…..EVER…COMES FROM islam.
How right you are, and how soon the Americans forget. They just want ‘MORE MONEY”.
Ms. McCain should just stay in Turkey. We don’t need her influence peddling right now.
Turkey with it’s Sharia Muslim President, Erdogren is a threat to NATO. Get rid of the and welcome Sweden and Finland
Welcoming Sweden and Finland into NATO will just piss off Putin even more.
Do you really want that?
All you South Carolina voters were stuck voting for this piece of excrement instead of a Marxist.
Jrod is on target. I held my nose and voted for excrement in order to defeat a protege of Nancy Pelosi. That is the way elections always seem to go down in SC.
What about the GOP Primary? Lindsey only got 1% of the vote against Trump in the Presidential primary, so seems like a decent challenger can pick him off?
The uniparty uses the splitter strategy in the primary and also the primary is an open primary, so dems. vote for the SOB. I believe he stole the election in the general.
My decision is not to vote for a RINO..no they are not better than a DEM , maybe worse. No , I want to starve the GOP Party so they will disappear like the Wigs….it’s the only way,
NO. Do not vote for a RINO..worse than Dem…
This is the problem with our current talking points. Every body knows everything, so you can’t tell them anything different than what they have already heard & learned.
Turkey already owns a large fleet of F-16s. They have for decades. Their participation in the F-35 was cancelled when they bought the S-400 system from Russia. We are selling upgrade kits to Greece for their F-16s and selling them the F-35.
The F-16 is now built in Greenville, SC, so Graham would have an interest in anyone purchasing them. They used to be built in Fort Worth, TX, but the F-35 is built there now.
Just FYI info.
Just because a fighter jet is newer does not mean it is better. The F-15 is still the best before or after. It is the Politicians and Aircraft companies who decide. Some of the best fighter jets ever built are still in a hangar somewhere. It is all politics and who gets the most grease at the time.
Plus, Turkey has a large aerospace plant in country, where they assembled and tested about 2/3 of the 245 F-16 aircraft they own. Turkey also does their own maintenance as well as Block Upgrade Kit application.
The sale was not “new” aircraft but upgrade kits and likely new munitions that match the upgrade kits’ capabilities.
Turkey also has a large Pratt-Whitney, GE and Rolls-Royce jet engine facility as well as facilities to maintain Boeing and Airbus Aircraft at the Istanbul International airport.
There is also a not often discussed Israeli IAI connection at the Eskisehir Airbase, where their F-4 fleet gets some interesting upgrades.
Turkey is not some backwards Islamic Country.
Anyone who thinks Islam is backward in this day and age, just because of the way they treat their females is not even thinking with their head. Just because they appear backwards, doesn’t mean they are stupid.
I was chief engineer on a project for over 8 years and lived there for 4 years as an expat with my family, on a high tech project, 1986-1990. I was the only American with a staff composed of college educated Turks.
[Note: I am Catholic and went to mass at the Vatican Embassy in Ankara.]
Their University System (Engineering, Physical Sciences, Business, et al) is top notch. Middle East Technical University and Bilkent Business College actually have allot of foreign exchange students who attend.
Their young people are very well educated and speak multiple languages.
Erdogan is trying to reduce access to secular distractions.
We’re also going in the wrong direction with our math is raycyst trend.
The crowd saying math is Raciss are trying to find a suitable reason for why they can’t do simple math problems. Heavens, don’t ask them to look at statistical data.
Convenient, isn’t it, that the general population can’t understand numbers or graphs during the Covid confusion.
Turkey makes some good handguns, too. Like this .45 ACP which I own.
I have a Winchester SXP 12ga. shotgun that’s made in Turkey that is just as good as my Mossberg 500.
Those must be awfully compromising pictures of Graham with Ukrainian kids.
Meanwhile one of the leading Turkish parties has commenced a country wide campaign to get Turkiye out of the “evil” NATO. Lindsey flubbed again.
NATO is getting ready for war. This is not a good thing. Ukraine is not worth this.
I am not so sure about who the targets will be for those upgraded F-16’s. Those kist will take between 6-9 months install and test. Plus, those kits upgrade only about 1/3 of their F-16 Inventory.
The Turks use the F-16 to strike at Kurdish Targets, in Turkey and Iraq, as well as for air superiority. Those upgrae kits enable additional weapon types as well as C-4I interface.
We have to develop a 3rd party .. Would somebody please see if we can rent a bus to take many of our “representatives“ to the train station.. please give them a ride to somewhere else..
I agree — the uniparty is alive and well and it’s not going away without something well organized and funded, and with the desire and commitment to a distinct new path.
Voting rino again will get the same results albeit maybe with a 24 hour ‘red wave’ adrenaline rush.
Miss Lindsay is perhaps looking for another money-laundering operation similar to Ukraine? Except the muslim country will do whatever it wants AFTER it gets what it wants.
We keep giving away our arms and will have nothing left to defend ourselves when war comes to our shores…our military has been decimated by the clot-shots and the missiles we are testing are duds. Jeez…we are in bad shape.
Also adding, “These fighter jets, in the hands of our NATO allies, will create a sense of stability and provide capability to the Turkish military that is most definitely in Washington’s UNIPARTY money laundering interests.”
Turkey is our ally in the same way that Saudi Arabia is…which means “not at all.” Turkey is a moslum country intent on crushing the West. Lil Linzie is helping them achieve that goal.
It’s easy to spot people who get their narratives handed to them by the left when they use words like “problematic.”
No way Graham goes there without prior coord with WH and DoS.
Whatever they have on him must be fantastic!
Fortunately Turkey is secular. Rooftop flying lessons are popular in Islamic countries for LG types.
the grifting machine on display. Sickening to see congress go make deals in plain sight .. now we know
The F-16 is manufactured in SC. He is just delivering services for the bribe he received.
And he gets to kiss the Sultan’s ring again.
“And he gets to kiss the Sultan’s ring again”
The inuendo practically writes itself…
Can you imagine how much blackmail they have on this perv?
What could go wrong? Sending Fighter Jets to trustworthy Turkey….
I showed this to my Mom – reading the article and seeing the photo with Sen. Lindsey Graham, she was more disgusted than ever to see who or what is leading our country. Especially upsetting on this important day, July 4th to take stock of who we have entrusted.
She said, “you mean to tell me that this is is the BEST we can do, with THESE fools? Our beautiful United States of America needs 100 of our very finest, most outstanding, intelligent, qualified, loyal Americans to lead our country, to put our country first.”
Then she made a list for me to add here:
Need Not Apply for US Senate
Anti-American
Drug Users
Alcoholics
Dishonest
Accepts Bribes
Age-related Mental Problems
Why are Congress critters negotiating and not Lockheed Martin directly with approval from both The White House & DoD? This has “Big Guy Cut for facilitating a deal” written all over it. What details is Lindsey going to know rather than the F-16 project manager at Lockheed Martin? Shady.
Lockheed-Martin pays him. Just a thought.
Graham is Uni-party all the way. He’s a dangerous man. A real snake.
I wouldn’t trust Ms. Lindsey to walk my dog, let alone have anything to do with Turkey. They can keep him. OTOH, is this why he played golf with our real President the other day?
I’m sure he got a nice big personal payoff for this. Learned at the feet of McCain. When does he start his own “foundation?”
Lindsey Graham is a Cheney and crybaby Kitzinger SWAMP person.
Turkey sends their old aircraft to Ukraine to prolong the war, and the US taxpayer treats Turkey to some shiny new F-16s via the Ukraine Aid Package scam.
A win-win for Miss Lindsey and the MIC.
LOL! Just what Turkey needs in Syria……
I looked up Lindsay Graham’s fund-raising. He has raised (2017-2022) $113,668,257. He gets some from the defense industry, but he gets more from the category Lawyers/Lobbyists and Health and Finance. Always interesting to see who bought him. https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/lindsey-graham/industries
Glorified used car salesman (don’t mean to denigrate salesman) Hope he sold them for hefty profit (not).
US Tax payers are going to be subsidizing this. Retire Forest and go back to SC.
Wonder what his cut will be? He’s been to Ukraine a couple of times also.
The guy at the end of bar said “TRK is going to ask Swe and Fin to send PKK and YPG Kurds (some citizens of FIN and Sweden)
To stand trial (tortrd)”. This could put a monkey wrench in the gears for joining NATO?
Apparently Miss Lindsey has quite a bit of pull. Remember when Trump said he was pulling the troops out of Syria? Then he had a chat with Miss Lindsey and all of a sudden we had to stay. To “protect” the oil there you see. Interesting use of the word “protect” when in the context of Syria it means stealing the oil.
Trump later clarified his position. He said “The only reason we are there is to defend Israel.” Oh. I see. Well at least it’s for a cause. Not necessarily a good cause IMHO.
Let’s see, Erdogan is broke and we’re providing state of the art fighter jets. Saudi Arabia and Turkey have opened dialog after several years of blockades. AND Biden is going to Saudi. We opposed sales to Turkey based on them buying Russia anti-missle technology. So are we selling Turkey the jets so they can find tune their missle systems or just give the US technology to Russia? Oh, and amazingly Turkey dropped their opposition to Sweden and Finland for NATO. Nice touch Lindsay
Turkey being a member of NATO is like letting the fox into the henhouse …
When our Founders wrote the Constitution, they did not consider a Senator would travel to a foreign country to negotiate arms sales.
The Executive Branch should be the only communication channel for this. Pelosi and McConnell and their lackeys should not have gone to Ukraine either.
These folks are so out of their lane. It’s no wonder we have our domestic issues.
Does Lindsay get a commision?
commission = bribe. I heard that somewhere.
The only operative word here is sales. 💰 Wonder what his percentage is?
I thought that the state department did foreign diplomacy and the senate represented their state and state constituents.
Yeah, and who thought the DOJ had any business in Ukraine , but Merrick Garland went there.