All media reporting of this case will be done through the prism of their own cooperation in the perpetration of the fraud. The MSM knew along with everyone else inside and outside of government, that their efforts to create the Trump-Russia conspiracy and collusion narrative were based on fraudulent pretext manufactured by the Clinton campaign. They all knew it. They all acted collaboratively, and they all engaged purposefully.
Michael Sussmann was accused of lying to the FBI about working for Hillary Clinton at the time he took fraudulent information to the FBI about Donald Trump. A Washington DC jury has found Sussmann NOT GUILTY.
While Sussmann was pushing fraudulent information into the open hands of FBI Legal Counsel James Baker, another Clinton campaign contractor, Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS, was pushing similarly constructed fraudulent information -including the Christopher Steele dossier- into the media and DOJ via Bruce Ohr.
The not guilty verdict simply means the FBI knew, or should have known, Michael Sussmann was delivering the fraudulent Trump-Russia collusion nonsense directly from the Hillary Clinton team. The FBI claims they didn’t know, the jury by finding Sussmann not guilty, says the FBI did know.
The BIGGER question is, what’s next?
Durham constructed this case around the premise the FBI and DOJ was duped or tricked by Hillary Clinton operatives, specifically including Michael Sussmann. It would be very weird if Durham now flipped the premise and began targeting DOJ or FBI officials around the premise they were “not duped.”
Therefore, I still think Durham stays exclusively focused on the outside actors and ignores all of the corrupt internal DOJ and FBI activity.
The prosecutorial approach by John Durham positioned all of the corruption outside the institutions of government, thereby protecting them.
The bad guys, the corrupt lawbreakers, are the people directly connected to the Clinton Campaign and all of the political and legal agents in/around the Clinton political machine.
As the Durham narrative unfolded, the brave and honorable institutions of government were victims to the horrible, terrible activity by the Clinton outsiders.
Pay no attention to the aligned politics and weaponization of the White House, DOJ, DOJ-NSD, FBI main, FBI-CoIntel, CIA, Senate Intelligence Committee, or memberships therein. The entire apparatus of the most robust, capable, excellent and diligent intelligence apparatus in the history of all mankind, along with all the oversight mechanisms that exist to support that apparatus, was duped by Hillary Clinton’s team.
Bill Barr was the bondo, John Durham is the spray paint.
Didn’t really expect anything different.
Took them SIX hours!
30 minutes to find not guilty.
5.5 hours for them to work out where their families would all meet up for dinner and drinks later.
It would have been 5 but Sussman’s wife didn’t get the memo right away- they had to hand it to the bailiff, who then handed it to the stenographer, who then handed it to the Judge. The judge sat on it, texted her, and then returned it to the stenographer……who then said F-it, left the bench, opened the door to the jury room and said “She said either Occidental Grill and Seafood or Le Diplomate, both are excellent choices and we may run into Nancy.”
We should be in front of their damned houses.
Thats the only surprise…that it took them that long to write down the verdict they were already prepared / paid to give even before the trial began. Guess they waited to try and make it seem genuine….
Like I said GB- they were working out where they would all go to dinner later. That takes some time when trying to be discrete about it.
That included a 5 hour lunch.
Just enough time to make certain every juror’s pockets were just a bit fuller.
While that may not be true, if I were an honest and honourable juror I would be worried that was being said of my vote.
They had to get the confirmation emails back from Barbados, Isle of Man, Jersey Island, and Switzerland regarding the non-taxable income and bullion bars. It’s a mess with all the various timezones.
Well, he did get a jury of His PEERS!! Just not our peers.
Touche!!!
Screw this country at this point. If there can’t be equal justice under the law, let it burn to the damn ground. RIP USA
its already the former republic, IMO
No disagreement here …………
Any more questions about how DEEP AND WIDE THE CORRUPTION IS ???????
We have an election in November. A very important one. It’s imperative that you vote, and that you vote GOP down your entire ballot. We must give the House and Senate majorities to the GOP. I realize a lot of GOP politicians suck but having GOP majorities is infinitely better than having Democrat majorities.
Yeah, gotta vote harder than 2020
outcome was predictable, at least there is an official record of it.
I think Durham expected this to happen. That is why he got so much of Hillary’s involvement on the Record.
There is no such thing as a fair trial in DC. He would have served time if this trial was held anywhere else.
Durham did not look too happy in that video above of him leaving the courthouse.
Cuz, he realized how stupid he now looks. He looks like a complete moron and idiot. The swamp ate him up and spit him out….granted, he put himself into their mouth by not asking the judge to recuse (yeah, the judge could tell him to pack sand but it leaves the appeal open- i think) and not addressing the tainted jury.
Huh? He doesn’t look like a “moron and idiot”. Everyone knew going into this trial that it would be nearly impossible to have an impartial jury. He pulled out some useful info about Clinton herself.
I want to remind you that one reason we have the current mess is because stupid voters gave away the House majority in 2018 and the Senate majority too in 2020. People need to stop voting stupidly.
You said vote- lol. I guess you didnt’ see 2000 Mules or have heard about Dominion.
And, yes, he looks like a fool, regardless of what you expected the outcome to be. Today, the jury formean even admitted- meh, yeah he lied but it’s not that important (paraphrased).
And they want to make DC a state. Go figure.
I don’t call it the Dept. of inJustice for nuthin’.
With every result like this I feel us pushed closer to overt conflict. There is only so much people can take.
I hope Sussman and OJ do time in the same cell in hell.
North, South, West are all used , so………………………………..
East Commiefornia
If Putin is going to nuke the US, I hope all the Swampers are in town with their donors and spouses at a big DNC fundraiser to make it worthwhile.
What a joke
Why can’t these trials be held outside the beltway where there’s less of a chance of a tainted jury?
Well, because then there would be less chance of a tainted jury.
Ah, Occam’s Razor applies here too I see.
Well Sundance, nothing that was unexpected from a DC Jury.
You are so right, Barr was the Bondo, Durham is the spray paint.
Thank you for sharing your time, knowledge. Especially the skill that you have of taking complex topics and simplifying them that even an old fossil like me can usually understand.
“The FBI claims they didn’t know, the jury by finding Sussmann not guilty, says the FBI did know….
It would be very weird if Durham now flipped the premise and began targeting DOJ or FBI officials around the premise they were “not duped.””
Wouldn’t make book on the flipping of the script, have been disappointed way to many times over the last few years. The “White Horse Miracle” is bound to show up sooner or later 😊🤗🤔.
…and oh yes Dupes get Duped….
Spray cans do not always work properly….they get clogged and such. Does anyone here think Durham even knows how to use a spray can……most likely not.
Exactly what did Durham cover up or not completely cover up? HE put all that corruption out front. Spray paint and bondo, ppppfffftttt. What a crock
“Barr was the Bondo, Durham is the spray paint.”
Yes, Sundance was right about that, but we can still save the republic … if WE have the fortitude of the Founders. The window of opportunity is closing, however, because, as anyone can see, the UNIPARTY is now making a concerted effort to do the one thing that’s absolutely necessary if they are to successfully install a long term dictatorship. Take away the guns.
So the question is, do WE have what it takes … before it’s too late? We’ve stood by while they rigged the courts, compromised the election process, destroyed the two party system, gained control of the media, subverted the military , weaponized the alphabet agencies (FBI, DOJ, IRS, CIA, etc), turned the police against us, indoctrinated our children, and now they are beginning to wage war on us with social media, economic and biological weapons. How much farther must they push us before we do what’s evidently going to be necessary to stop this? Right now we have the means. Soon we may not.
Let’s all of us remember to vote in November… bahahahahaha
Will change nothing.
Hence the cynical laugh (bahahahahaha).
The reason why we have this mess is because of people like you two. When you joke about not voting, suggest it, advise it, or actually do it, then you are part of the problem. Stupid voters gave away the House majority in 2018 which opened the door for the Trump impeachment. If stupid voters had given away the Senate majority too Trump would have been removed from office. Not very funny, right? But, stupid voters went ahead and gave away that Senate majority in 2020! So how can we expect anything to be fair with a drooling slurring Democrat vegetable in the White House and Democrat majorities in the House and Senate? And you imply that it’s pointless to vote …
Wait … so you think the Drooler-in-Chief really got 81 million votes? Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Unbelievable.
The kabuki act is over – waste of time – there wAs no point to it really if you are going to knowingly and intentionally go 180 degrees in the wrong direction…if you know what I mean . They all know what happened , but they have to pretend that they don’t …
“…the BIGGER question is what’s next…”
I think this is the easy out for Durham to go home and rip
Durham writes a book.
Writes a book? About what?
“I spent 4 years investigating the greatest act of Insurrection since the American Civil War and I managed to get 1 lawyer for lying because I found emails that PROVED that he committed the crime. Other than that, I got nothing.”
That would be the entire book.
“Well I can at least go on various TV shows !”
Words out of my mouth.
OF COURSE !!! They are so transparent! LOL
“It would be very weird if Durham now flipped the premise and began targeting DOJ or FBI officials around the premise they were “not duped.””
Who cares….not any more weird or strange than the corrupt environment we live in today. I want to see him go after all those bastards.
If Sussman walks this easily then the rest are assured that they’re untouchable too.
Not a surprise at all.
God says “hold my beer”.
I know He is a God of justice, but I do find myself asking “how long oh Lord, how long.”
Not a theologian but that evil hag might be so disgusting even hell rejects her
Heck, He had Paul Pelosi meet Jesus (Lopez) on Saturday Night. God is the Supreme comedian.
Gee, shocking.
Michael Flynn – guilty
Paul Manafort – guilty
Roger Stone – guilty
Sussmann – not guilty ?
Every Jan 6th person who walked into the open doors of the capitol – guilty.
And some who never even went in…
We need our own Bastille Day and free our political prisoners. They don’t even allow CONGRESSMEN inside to see the conditions….
I haven’t been keeping up well with the Jan 6 kangaroo court, but I did hear or read about a guy who was just convicted. All he did was enter the Capitol, look around a bit, and then leave when asked to.
The reason the Democrats were able to create the kangaroo court is because we gave away the House and Senate majorities in 2018 and 2020. We can’t do that any more. There would have been NO Trump impeachments or Jan 6 kangaroo court if the GOP had the majorities.
Tainted Jury and Judge
They all make me SICK.
If it helps, Clinesmith got his law license back last year. So, you know, justice has been served.
I suppose knowingly providing false or fabricated information to law enforcement is legal, I guess because they knew it was fabricated. Be very careful with our just us system, it is tainted, corrupt beyond repair. Ugh.
The Judge literally let someone on the Jury whose kids play with his kids type of thing — Laughably rigged for a Not Guilty – imagine that would happen for a Jan. 6th Defendant/Political Prisoner? Federal Judges are nearly all corrupt — Activists in Robes
Judge was practically friends with the defendant.
It’s a very closely related swamp. Tentacles extend everywhere.
It’s time to flip Lisa Page’s jilted husband……
I think they are flaunting their ability to slip through the hands of real justice. They throw it in our faces every chance they get. Patriots get put in solitary confinement and years in jail for walking peacefully in OUR Capitol building. Criminals and traitors like Obama, Hillary, all the rest get mansions and mask waivers and fancy vacations.
So what else is new?
“Incest is best.” DC motto.
Can this judge be impeached?
What is the process?
Come on man. It’s the same process. The crooks control all processes.
Align the front post to the rear notch
by whom? Cooper will be the toast of the town. UniParty cocktail parties are probably being cued up now.
Found on another website:
“Sussman was overtly guilty – except for one detail. He was being tried for lying to the FBI. The jury found that the the FBI was fully aware that the information was bogus information being pushed by Hillary Clinton dirty tricksters to throw the election. The FBI was not mislead because the FBI was an active co conspirator “
What difference, at this point, will that make?
Hillary agrees and says, see- we can agree on something.
Occam’s Razor strikes again. Twice in one thread.
Irrelevant: he still lied and he lied to investigators who did not know. All the higher ups did.
The investigators who did not know, of course, being of the 99% honest rank and file. /s
Sundance’s analysis rules.
Surprise!!!!! No?
Well, I can at least fake it…no?
Surprise!!!! Oh, dang, still not really a surprise.
It looks as if the American courts are as good as the Russian courts.
It seems as if American vote counting has become as good as the Russian vote counting.
Techno Fog also puts it bluntly. Here are the first two opening paragraphs from his article:
“The acquittal is no surprise. This is a DC jury, after all. In the Roger Stone case, for example, we documented how a juror lied to get on the panel. (That judge didn’t care.) Making matters worse, the Sussmann judge wrongly allowed for a woman to remain on the jury, despite the fact that her daughter and Sussmann’s are on the same high school crew team. One can’t help but think that juror had her own daughter’s interests in mind – the cohesion of the crew team – when she reached a decision.
On the facts, there was more than sufficient evidence to prove Sussmann’s guilt. Sussmann lied to then-FBI general counsel James Baker in order to get a meeting to pass the Alfa Bank hoax materials to the FBI. Sussmann lied again during the meeting – stating he was not there on behalf of a client – in order to get the FBI to open an investigation into the Trump Organization’s purported ties with Alfa Bank. Later, during testimony to Congress, Sussmann admitted he met with Baker on behalf of a client. Billing records proved he had been working on the Alfa Bank project on behalf of the Clinton Campaign.”
Ref. https://technofog.substack.com/p/michael-sussmann-has-been-acquitted?
Techno Fog and others can spin it any way they like. Not guilty was the verdict. Other than folks who read CTH and TF, no one cares.
Exactly gunrunner. Exactly. The swamp and MSM now have their soundbite and a video clip showing Durham’s failure. A failure that will be contrasted with Flynn’s guilty plea, Roger Stone’s guilty plea, and the others charged and found guilty. This is how they play the game.
Sadly, too many on our side are still trying to figure out how to get the cellophane off the box. And, even sadder- the box has no cellophane on it.
Thanks DD, I needed that! Sad, but so true. The Ds always play to win, and the Rs always play not to lose.
Apparently the R voters always play to lose either.
Have you seen the number of commenters here who whine about their GOP candidates and threaten to note vote in November? This is how we lose majorities. We had BOTH majorities in 2016. In 2018, stupid voters gave away the House majority. In 2020, stupid voters gave away the Senate majority too. I don’t know how people can think we’re ever going to have a good government or see any justice if they continue to vote stupidly. If the GOP had retained the majorities there would have been no Trump impeachments and no Jan 6 kangaroo court, and there would likely be investigations under way into Fauci and the Bidens and even Clinton herself.
We lose majorities because of fraud.
As SD implies, this verdict reinforces (although for all the wrong reasons from a jury of dullards) the fact that the FBI was complicit and knowingly went along with the witch hunt.
Whether Durham uses it as a springboard to launch into what he must already have on Strozk and the rest of the cabal or closes up shop remains to be seen.
Durham is meticulous and I really doubt this is all there is.
Feature not a bug.
It’s not an “unmitigated disaster”. NOBODY THOUGHT SUSSMAN WOULD BE CONVICTED! Anyone who did wasn’t paying attention.
If any of those were tried in DC, forget it.
LOL, meticulous at getting not guilty verdicts! What a joke. He works for the deep state.
I’m not sure the word “meticulous” is the correct word for him. He allowed that Judge to take the case knowing the Judge is a friend of Sussmann. He allowed jury members who donated to HRC and/or the DNC, one who donated to AOC, and one who is on the crew team with the daughter of the Judge. Why did he NOT recuse all of them?
True. Being a meticulous investigator and a meticulous trial attorney are two different things.
When I heard that I just bit my tongue and kept on. They will be held to account. Maybe not in this world, but in the next.
Surprise- that one’s bought off too.
No it is not.
It would be nice if we could have some justice in this earthly world for a change.
The Gov lawyers mailed it in. How could they allow the biased judge and half the jury on this case.
How should have Sucksmann been tried then?
It was one count, lying to the FBI. How about conspiracy, RICO. Its kind of a big thing that he was pushing made up computer and server evidence. Its obvious the FBI was in on this as much as Sucksmann.
What a joke DC and this country has become.
Another complete waste of taxpayer money for an investigation that most knew was NEVER going to get at the root cause of this fraud and corruption.
Next up. Durham will probably announce his retirement and write a book or two.
Safe bet.
The Uniparty with corrupt Obama judges presiding along with tainted juries will continue to make a mockery of Justice.
Stand by for the state controlled legacy media to proclaim all the evidence presented by Durham is invalid.
Yes. No sense trying to spin this as anything other than a colossal victory for the bad guys.
It’ll be spun that it clears Hillary as well. Yes, a huge victory.
Its always a waste of money, time. NO one at the top level will ever go to jail much less charged. I think he had personal relationships w 3 Jury members ?
Since this affected all 50 states, I still don’t know why the “paint” had to hold the trial in DC and not in a fly over district?
Compare and contrast: This decision vs. what they did to Michael Flynn.
Jan 6 vs. Antifa/BLM summer of love riots. Easy to predict the treatment. So be careful.
did not Mike Pence get Flynn fired?
Yes
IMO, Pence was persueded by the FBI to make that statement, explaining to him that it would help to get Trump out of office, and that he, Pence would then be the POTUS.
Pence is THE biggest traitor to this country!!!
I was hoping for at least a hung jury! D C is awful!
Well maybe that can still happen…
How? It’s over.
Read it again.
Daniel, I see what you did there!
Like Sundance, the reason for not having a hung jury, is that they believed that the Lie was not material as the FBI was in on it. That would be good news in a way. The not guilty verdict stops any appeal on that charge. Maybe they have others, and will file them in a different district court. I doubt that all Sussman’s actions were confined to DC – the in DC lie. Clearly, he conspired across state lines. One thing, all that came out would be useful in such a new trial/venue.
Baloney.
They simply decided to not care about what anyone did related to Clinton/Trump.
Of course. He lied to agents. Period. Trying to rationalize this verdict plays right into the enemy’s hands.
Wishful thinking on your part.
Ah, all of this 20d chess……
Or simply, Durham was meant to fail. The MSM, the Uniparty, and more importantly the HRC/BHO/FJB cabal have their soundbite and video clips to compare and contrast Sussman with Flynn. With Stone. With Manafort.
Durham wasn’t even thrown under the bus. He willingly laid down, told them how far to back up, and then gave them directions on the best way to run him over. The proof is in the lack of pushing back against the jury selection and appointment of this judge.
In any other court- let’s say, for you TXLady, if you were to say- falsify an official document (I want something similar to lying) and end up in trial, with a friend sitting as the judge and 4 jurors that are close to you and your family……
Oh, wait, never mind….the Prosecutor would never let it get to trial if you were friends with the judge and have friends on the jury. That’s only reserved for DC elites and their cohorts.
There seems to be a lot of people on here that still think he is real! LOL SMH
What a surprise! /s
I don’t believe there is such a person as John Durham so it was rather difficult to believe anything would come of this charade. What a joke.
My attorney told me the only place to find justice is in the dictionary and not in the court. God is the final judge of man and I take solace in the fact that he is in control and in charge. The end result could either be civil war,when enough people have had all they can take, or when we hear the Trumpet on Judgement Day when God says we’ve run out the clock.
I wouldn’t call it a ‘civil war’ as this sounds more like another American ‘Revolution,’ this time between the American people -vs- the totalitarian state.
Larry Gopnik: So what did you tell him?
Rabbi Nachtner: Sussman?
Larry Gopnik: Yes!
Rabbi Nachtner: Is it… relevant?
Larry Gopnik: Well, isn’t that why you’re telling me?
Rabbi Nachtner: Okay. Nachtner says, look. The teeth, we don’t know. A sign from Hashem? Don’t know. Helping others… couldn’t hurt.
Larry Gopnik: No! No, but… who put it there? Was it for him, Sussman, or for whoever found it, or for just, for, for…
Rabbi Nachtner: We can’t know everything.
Larry Gopnik: It sounds like you don’t know anything! Why even tell me the story?
Rabbi Nachtner: [chuckling] First I should tell you, then I shouldn’t.
Larry Gopnik: What happened to Sussman?
Rabbi Nachtner: What would happen? Not much. He went back to work. For a while he checked every patient’s teeth for new messages. He didn’t find any. In time, he found he’d stopped checking. He returned to life. These questions that are bothering you, Larry – maybe they’re like a toothache. We feel them for a while, then they go away.
Larry Gopnik: I don’t want it to just go away! I want an answer!
If these thieving, diabolical, Anti-American bastards stole a US Presidential election in front of millions & the world…….then this is just window dressing to “show” the rule of law still exists.
It does not.
Rule of law is dead. Dead. Dead.
Rule of the elites versus all of us. And for now they control the levers of power.
USA continues its decline.
I grew up hearing the story of John Adams representing the Redcoats in the Boston Massacre, that the rule of law was so important that you had to put aside personal feelings to preserve it.
Each day that goes by I recognize my country less and less.
Ironic that we send our own boys to far off hellholes to fight for THEIR freedom, while our freedom is going down the tubes…
It’s good to be a Clinton
Welcome to the newest Third World shit hole.
“Only people not tied to the establishment DC swamp ever face accountability”. Actually what they usually face is false charges.
Perhaps the public display of in-club corruption is the purpose. Combine that with unprecedented low approval and the suffering of the US American people? Whatever happens next… if they ever get what they deserve, will be justified.
It’s our fault.
Not a single protest is planned.
Were this happening to the other side, a few phone calls would have street protests in every city underway and no American would escape knowing who the guy is and what he did..
We are lazy, Sundance excepted. He’s done all he can to educate and we the educated do our reading and our whining.
It’s inescapable: we deserve what we are getting, the shyt thrown in our faces by that DC jury and that judge and every pol in DC that has screwed us.
People may be still thinking, well, they won’t actually come for me. I’m not convinced on the frog in the pot story yet.
I think it’s beginning to feel a bit warm.
I saw my leftist brother over the Memorial Day weekend. He was worried about criminals running amok and said that ‘good’ people need 2A/guns to protect themselves.
I couldn’t believe my ears. If my deluded communist brother is finally catching on, there IS hope for the USA yet..
Judith,
Long past time for you to dump that worthless SOB. Addition by subtraction. I just told a long-time foreign friend that he had ONE more rude comment to make about President Trump and we were THROUGH. I had had all the insults about the best US President of my lifetime I was going to take, and that from here on he better tread pretty damned lightly.
He apologized and said he would never do that again. We’ll see. I’m done with leftists and putting up with their damned lies.
Only government approved protests are allowed. So if you’re not BLM or Antifa, forget it.
F all of them
who can Trump go after now if he still want to? Sussman or FBI
Next step will be AG Garland ending Durham’s investigation claiming there is no there there to investigate further! It’s how the deep state works in concert with obama Federal Judges and jury nullification to protect their own! A pox on all of them!!!
Garland can’t end Durham’s investigation unless Durham commits some kind of gross wrongdoing.
when the government is evil, the good guys are criminals.
vigilante justice is still justice.