CTH begins every outline of the ongoing Durham investigation with the following disclaimer: How is John Durham going to reveal everything that is possible about the deep state Trump targeting operation, and simultaneously handle the involvement of Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann and the Special Counsel team who were specifically appointed to cover it up?
Thanks to a more detailed filing by John Durham last night {pdf here, h/t Techno}, we can now see the guardrails, rules and general direction the prosecution is taking.
In essence, the underlying Trump-Russia conspiracy theory material from the Clinton campaign, via Rodney Joffe to Michael Sussmann, was fabricated – likely for a dual purpose:
(A) to coverup and make excuses for the stunningly embarrassing, potentially unlawful and politically terrible April 2016 DNC email leaks, which showed the DNC Club internally working to secure the nomination for Hillary Clinton, while trying to destroy her primary opponent, Bernie Sanders.
and
(B) to create the political Russia narrative against Trump, to be deployed later in the general election.
Within the general direction Durham is following, the FBI was duped by a purposeful and manipulative intent from the Clinton campaign. Meanwhile, the CIA [Agency-2] did not buy into the technological evidence saying it was not “technically plausible” and was “user created and not machine/tool generated.”
For a complete breakdown of the legal filings and what they mean on a detailed level –
–Read Techno Fog Substack Here.
The prosecutorial approach by John Durham positions all of the corruption outside the institutions of government, thereby protecting them.
The bad guys, the corrupt lawbreakers, are the people directly connected to the Clinton Campaign and all of the political and legal agents in/around the Clinton political machine.
As the prosecutorial narrative is unfolding, the institutions of government were victims to the horrible, terrible activity by the Clinton outsiders.
Pay no attention to the aligned politics and weaponization of the White House, DOJ, DOJ-NSD, FBI main, FBI-CoIntel, CIA, Senate Intelligence Committee, or memberships therein. The entire apparatus of the most robust, capable, excellent and diligent intelligence apparatus in the history of all mankind, along with all the oversight mechanisms that exist to support that apparatus, was duped by Hillary Clinton’s team.
That’s John Durham’s investigative thesis, and the court filings show he’s sticking to it.
It makes sense. Obama is in charge. He doesn’t like Hillary Clinton. He will sacrifice any of those around Hillary Clinton that he has to in order to protect his people inside the government.
The government is protecting itself, first. At all costs.
too bad there is no state for hillary clinton to turn state’s evidence to.
that’s how corrupt the u.s. government is.
“Governments, if they endure, always tend increasingly toward aristocratic forms. No government in history has been known to evade this pattern. And as the aristocracy develops, government tends more and more to act exclusively in the interests of the ruling class — whether that class be hereditary royalty, oligarchs of financial empires, or ENTRENCHED BUREAUCRACY.”
Frank Herbert
And if Clinton fights back…gosh, she is blaming Obama! Racist!
That is a good point. The global cabal could afford to throw Hillary into the wood chipper, however if Hillary sees the writing on the wall she might go scorched earth and try to bring the whole cabal down with her. Since she is a psychopath, such a threat would be taken seriously. I do not know how they would play that.
My suspicion is that the cabal will sacrifice several minions and then pardon them shortly thereafter.
SHOOT. THEM. ALL.
After a “fair” trial of course – just like we citizens get ….
Give them all the J6 treatment.
Give them the jab and then all boosters.
All at once to keep everyone safe, especially the children.
All in the same day.
That’s not remotely possible as long as the leftist scum are in charge of the DOJ. Wake me up when the top of the food chain DNC’ers who ran all of this are charged and tried for their crimes.
In England they were hung, drawn and quartered for treason.
This was truly barbaric but they understood treason as serious.
The recidivism rate was extremely low, and the deterrent effect was enormous.
James I actually had the Ruthven brothers’ corpses exhumed, put them on trial, then drew and quartered the remains; and displayed them here and there.
Of course, they were totally innocent, but…never mind.
Looks as though several low or mid level Clinton campaign people will take the fall. Job done, then.
May be time for some new Arkansides, too.
get too close to hillary, obama may get some blowback. it’s not like he isn’t married to a man, not the father of his children, didn’t kill scalia, joan rivers, etc.
The Clinton’s should have been Rosenberged for their vast treason with China
Unfortunately there’d be collateral damage, but a semi-hot war between those two camps would be pretty sweet. Let them kill each other essentially.
Let them begin soon….for entertainment purposes, of course.
Only a couple of suicides needed.
Well…………….looks as though several low or mid level Clinton campaign people will be able to retire
comfortablyquietly.Unacceptable. Hot Anger now.
Durhan knows who sends him his paycheck.
Good point. And we are still paying this creep why?
The same reason we pay all the rest of the creeps in DC: because they will come after us if we don’t and they will make sure WE suffer.
Too Simpletonian. He could have closed shop after Clinesmith.
Is he planning to expand his scope?
Durham likely has his house paid off, one son is a Federal attorney, investments and a fat pension.
The idea he’s doing all this for a paycheck is ludicrous.
Given his experience and reputation, he could go to a large firm, or hang his own shingle, and charge $1,000 or more per hour.
Gotta say Clapper was also weak, I bet he was a perfect puppet in this play. Hillary has gone quiet, I guess she knows they have thrown her under the bus.
Just when she is eyeing 2024….how timely!😂
That’s Pete Buttiege and Beto O’Rourke’s year. The 4th Obama term.
I hope they throw Hillary in jail (next to Maxwell) and I hope Trump sues her, the DNC and all involved for everything . Let’s bring Hillary down. Please.
Trump is suing Clinton (sorry for this link being MSN…)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-sues-hillary-clinton-others-over-2016-election-he-won/ar-AAVs8UY
Yes, and attorney Margo Cleveland says many of his causes of action may be waived due to varying statutes of limitations.
… and the others due to “lack of standing”, the ol’ all-purpose dodge …
Clapper was the dumbest and that was by design.
This is the new official line. Don’t try to fight it.
Emmanuel Goldstein, in league with foreign enemies (Putin?) subverted our 2016 election.
Consistent with our new fascist zeitgeist, the brave statists of CIA and FBI tried to protect the State, but failed.
The solution, going forward, is to give ever more power to the State. But Putin and Emmanuel Goldstein will keep trying. Has Snowball been heard from?
I watched a recent PBS Frontline about Putin and PBS is still claiming Russia hacked the DNC servers.
PBS and truth will never merge.
“PBS and truth will never merge.”
well, PBS is funded by gubmint and by corporations, therefore …
John Durham: Part of the Great Deception.
the notorious limited hangout.
They had crossfire hurricane fusion cell between cia and fbi, and now they claim fbi was duped but cia was not?
Yup, Peter Strzok.
The State is a block. The State is a monolith. Peter Strzok was CIA and FBI. Of course. He was low-ranking and yet very important. Why? Because his status within the State superseded rank.
Certain people, like Fauci, like Vindman, have a rank within the State that supersedes their ostensible rank. We outsiders only learn the truth when these people are challenged.
One very sad truth – Congressmen never amount to more. This is fascism.
Was Peter Strzok duped before or after he cried “We’ll stop him!” to his lover?
Organized Crime families are fighting for control of Broken Amerika, meanwhile honest American’s are dying from cobra venum disguised as a MANDATORY vaccine for many.
The Daily Outrage.
Never a day goes by …
Solid points. But my question – why still only one count against one individual?
Conspiracy and Conspirators were mentioned 61 times in one filing.
So when do they come to the party?
Why an elaborate speaking indictment, yet only one charge of lying to the FBI?
Where are Joffe, Tech Researchers, Elias, et al.?
it’s kind of traditional. clinesmith (one fbi agent), one charge (forgery/perjury), no real consequences for crossfire hurricane (but which itself disproves durham’s current thesis).
they think no one can see them. even though substantial books have been written about them.
if it’s not in the mockingbird state media, to them, it doesn’t exist.
Anyone honestly think she won’t bring them all down as she goes down? Oh hell, she will be wicked pissed and will be lashing at all of them.
While not exactly sure what her response will be, I am definitely planning on a big bowl of popcorn and a front row seat to the show.
Or, why give the conspirators a road map to any future prosecutions?
I suppose this could be some subterfuge. Maybe he is spying on them to catch them colluding in defense. Maybe he is still holding back to entrap them with info they don’t know he has.
Enough wishful thinking. I think he is speaking stories to smear them. Especially Hillary. But he has no plans to actually try them. Especially Hillary.
A special counsel only has to give a report to the Attorney General. A confidential report. It is the AG who determines if any of that report should be released.
Durham is speaking easy now. Using court filings to tell a story. Much of this story is barely relevant to the case on hand.
I think this is how he is getting the story out. That there won’t be further cases where he proves these extra accusations in a court of law.
The moment he started presenting the FIB as victims, fellow victims in a crime against Trump, a crime the FIB conducted, it was clear as day that this was just another coverup. And since he reports to Garland, everything Durham does is at the control of Obiden Inc.
These are his goals: Exonerate Obama and his government. Keep the Crossfire Hurricane and Mueller coverups going. And smear Cankles. But only prosecute the greatest crime ever, lying to the FIB.
I may be wrong about only prosecuting lying to the FIB. But getting too close to that sack of fertilizer we saw flung in to a van puts all the other goals at severe risk. So smear away, because Obama wants Hillary far away from the Presidency.
And yes, my view is severely jaded.
Yup. BULL Durham is HARD AT WORK applying the finishing touches to the last coat of paint that’s been applied over that turd.
Yup! BONDO Bill filled it and Durham slathering paint over it. Yet the rot below continues unabated.
A beautiful country continues to disintegrate.
Why didn’t he close shop after Clinesmith?
Why the speaking indictments, and numerous references to the Conspiracy?
Side note: Durham has a son that also may be a lawyer working for the Feds.
Hah! I was scrolling down the comments to see if anyone re-stated the words that Sundance has so frequently used to describe the purpose and expected outcome of the much-celebrated Durham investigation.
You did it well.
And that is all that is going to happen in this entire saga. The main corrupted-to-the-core government institutions will remain untouched, unfazed, and undeterred from continuing their criminal encroachment on the Constitution, making a complete “banana republic” mockery of our Justice System, and inflicting more criminal harm on the American citizens our founding laws were designed to protect.
I would rather have some accountability then nothing at all. Maybe it’s some form of a peace offering and I don’t think many would argue against Hillary Clinton being held responsible for her actions. Nothing is going to change overnight. It took decades for the corruption to get this bad. I assume it will take just as long to fix it.
Americans are not that stupid they will slowly catch on. The first priority is waking people up , we can go from there.
“Americans are not that stupid”
You must not be from around here. no offense intended.
Lol none taken. That’s why I said not “that” stupid. I’m leaving room to back out….
😂
that’s why getting confessions out of the perps is so much more important than individual punishment (so far we have neither but it is early days in the fourth turning yet — they don’t even know how badly they have lost their “war”).
Some of the most educated people I know are not necessarily stupid, just easily manipulated into believing what the Deep State tells them.
Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
As Covid will go on forever (says the biggest mass murderer in history), so will Durham. I feel as if I’m watching “Days of Our Lives”….” like sand through the hourglass.”
“I would rather have some accountability then nothing at all.”
You will be disappointed.
How many of them do you think Hillary would take down with her?
Agree, Most are NOT Stupid, just ignorant, Unfortunately, many are willfully ignorant.
So brain washed into taking information from “Trusted Sources”. Nothing to burst their bubble.
Will more shoes drop?
UndeadFOIA@UndeadFoia
“Oh its gonna get good folks.”
Read the screen shot. Only one witness has immunity.
So where are the other indictments??!!
<Will more shoes drop?>
Yes…Like a broken shelf in Imelda Marcos closet 🙂
Durham has indicated more than once that Joffe is a subject. I expect there will be some sort of conspiracy charges
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Durham: CIA “concluded in early 2017 that the Russian Bank-1 data and Russian Phone Provider-1 data was not “technically plausible,” did not “withstand technical scrutiny,” “contained gaps,” “conflicted with [itself]”
They never said a word, allowing the country to be destroyed.
Allowing an innocent man who was elected President of the United States to be publicly accused of being a Russian spy and never lifted a finger to stop it. The head of the CIA at that time was Mike Pompeo!
As with the 2020 election fraud, Durham can try his best to contain the story within the guardrails, but sunshine is going to expose the direct involvement of various elements of the 17 intelligence agencies that participated in the coup.
There may be no prosecution by Durham, but that will eventually stain him as just another pastel in the cover up.
We know what they did, and we know who did it.
Our government’s “intelligence” assets along with the Department of Injustice are unworthy of any further trust about any matter.
If any other Treepers think similarly, then whenever the 17 issue some pronouncement, let’s say about Ukraine as an example, I automatically look for the slant, falsehood, and deep state angle. As Sundance points out, once one sees these things, and the marionette strings, it’s impossible to unsee these manipulations.
It’s also impossible to ever trust again.
Congratulations Deep State, enjoy the bed you’ve created.
Every bit of this Durham exercise is to prosecute nobodys in order to keep anything from getting back to the Criminally Corrupt Kenyan. The Kenyan was knee deep in the Evil Hag with the blue dress staining husband email scam and fully involved in the Trump Russia fraud. Everything about the Kenyan leads to criminality.
But before Sundance had buyer’s remorse over The Big Ugly not coming to fruition, he said they’d start with the small fish.
Ergo, small fish. Facts on the record.
We were previously told Danchenko was cooperating, as were James Baker.
I’m not alleging we’ll get some monumental takedown, but what if we get 30% of The Big Ugly?
Durham is still receiving new documents and new redactions. He doesn’t work off the cuff like Weismann and Mueller.
Could this prosecution be what’s needed to procure other pleadings and cooperation?
So the “Big Lie” continues! The “Big Lie” to me is that the FBI/DOJ/IC and deep state are illegally surveilling a massive number of American citizens, mostly President Trump supporters, Republicans, conservatives and Christians. The illegal surveilling will continue no matter what Durham turns up!!! They will all claim they aren’t doing any illegal surveillance but they are!!! We know it, they know we know it and don’t care and will continue to do it. The Patriot Act is the greatest threat to the Republic since the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution!!! Godspeed Sundance!!!
Every single day, Bubby.
It’s all about surveillance and control, then shaping and shading to get the desired deep state supporting reaction from the Legacy media puppets.
Rinse and repeat.
Note how the 17 never talk about, China’s infiltration of our universities or other institutions, ie what should be their real jobs as US intelligence agencies.
They are as much an anti American utility as the university system, as is the administrative beurocracy. It all exists for outside actors, not for US taxpayers.
More and more citizens are beginning to catch on.
If we had had a “real” investigator, instead of the so-called “Durham” this debacle would have been over years ago including the prosecution and sentencing of the traitors involved. I still doubt that he is a real person – has anybody ever seen him in person or on TV? If he is real, he is complicit – why else would he be covering for the government?
Oh please. Durham has had some victories.
– publicly rebuked IG Michael Horowitz
– waged an epic, behind-closed-doors battle to pierce the attorney-client Perkins Coie privilege
– which begot more critical information
– recently received sandbagged cell phones from the DOJ?
– Multiple on-the-record legal filings alleging a Conspiracy
– zero leaks
Is there an Act II? A plan B?
Anybody can “publicly rebuke IG Michael Horowitz” and file legal papers – what has that actually accomplished ?
Horowitz did his job and covered up all the corruption at the FBI and DOJ!
Love your sarcasm, Sundance.
Makes me chuckle.
Roberts’ FISA court gave out bogus warrants, CIA/Pentagon got their paid contractors to set up bogus crimes, Senate Int Comm leaked docs illegally, and much more.
Hundreds deserve jail. What a farce this is.
Some folks shouldn’t be yucking it up just yet. In the description of one’s long career, “not indicted and didn’t go to prison” is not what anyone wants as the final entry that sums them up. This is not over by a long way. I expect there will be more information coming out. On the other hand, perhaps not. Perhaps Durham will put these two in a sack, tie a string around it, and walk away.
” …was duped by Hillary Clinton’s team. ”
😂😂😂.
The idjits who couldn’t figure out she needed to leave Malibu and Martha’s vineyard now and then to campaign? The folks who came up with ” Stronger Together” for the person who called most Americans ” deplorables? ” If they are that easily “fooled” that is a problem! 😂
IIRC no one on crooked’s team was ever questioned under oath. Their defense is going to be that since they weren’t under oath they didn’t have to tell the truth. No one will go to jail from this.
The choice was 1)Guberment stupid or 2) Guberment corrupt You know they will pick #1 every d—n time😜, it is their go to default position.
Tag: John Brennan is a traitor; WHO IS SHAKING THE JAR?
https://www.theburningplatform.com/tag/john-brennan-is-a-traitor/
But….
The manipulated evidence presented by Clinton through Sussman and Joffe was not inherently enough to fool the CIA and that in and by itself should have made the FBI doubt the story along with Carter Page and the Dossier.
Like Joe Biden “denying”the evidence of his involvement with Hunter, it seems the entire government exists on “plausible deniability” once they can no longer censor or coverup.
Let’s hope one of the conspirators finally says it’s a coverup and they knew all along.
This definitely has the handprints of Bill Barr’s “preserve the system at all costs” mindset all over it… I guess they just found their patsy…
How can there be any proper investigations when there are so many conflicts of interest between justices, lawyers, cabinet appointees, politicians and those leading the investigations? Perhaps they need some top legal minds from other countries at the helm?
In the new corporate world there is always a conflict of interest because they can get to anyone in some way – but not everyone can be controlled or bought.
What you are talking about here is people who are already inside – people who are already bought.
Under the circumstances, I recommend top legal minds from Russia……………
Remember the times john “prayer mat” Brennen said PDJT was a “traitor”?
( A look at things from the past in the future) Robert Spencer video: John Brennan and others charging Trump with “treason” are the real traitors
https://robertspencer.org/2018/08/robert-spencer-video-john-brennan-and-others-charging-trump-with-treason-were-the-real-traitors
Hillary did not kill herself, LOL!!
Completely, and utterly unsurprising.
Our govt is our worst enemy
Demon Strzok as victim is simply sublime.
How will the CIA/ FBI escape once those that Durham is going after on the outside start talking and bringing evidence they have that the FBI and CIA were willfully participating in the Russia Scheme?
How will they go after Hillary when she can take them all down at the same time?
Assuming they have families, the odds of that happening are vastly reduced versus keeping their mouths shut and accepting slaps on the wrist. My guess is they won’t be treated like Flynn, it will be more like Clinesmith.
I believe that is how Durham is approaching eating this elephant. The Joffes and Sussmanns of the world do not want to go to prison. Steele could be key, but I think things will get interesting when Durham’s team starts their speaking indictments in the Danchenko case
And the Clinton gang will blame the dastardly Vladimir Putin. The “just us” department will replay Comey’s “No reasonable prosecutor would bring charges” speech, and that will be that.
Case closed. Nothing to see here. Move along…move along.
They do not care that we see all of it.
I guess we are akso supposed to forget Comey acting as AG when he held his Hillary press conference and that the actual AG was just chit chatting with Bill Clinton in the back back of the plane for 45 minutes.
But you are probably right Sundance. It isn’t Durham’s job to sell this snow job. That is the province of the media.
Sometimes I wish I didn’t have marionette vision. Its really depressing. Maybe its better to be a low info fake news junky where ignorance is bliss.
Works for my brother
Seems to be working well for all the bobble heads walking outside with masks on their face.
Sure as hell works for mine too.
Fed-centric is a waste of time and resources.
The feds are not friends of Americans and are not going to help Americans.
The feds need to be pushed back into their limited Constitutional restrictions.
That requires Americans to take back their local / state entities.
Work in the area that is going to produce results, not just spinning your wheels.
My hope is that Sundance is wrong but I can’t remember when he ever was wrong so I guess this is the call.
Maybe this is a Durham feint? Maybe someone from inside the intelligence/FBI apparatus will come forward publicly with documents that force Durham to head in the right direction? Otherwise this is just another blivet.
Well, Sundance believed and expounded on The Big Ugly for a long time.
My question is, are we possibly going to see 30% of The Big Ugly?
Heck, if we took down FusionGPS, Perkins Coie, the Hillary Campaign, and took a chunk out of the DNC – all while exposing the corrupt MSM – that’s a start. Can we also get Dan Jones?
Is it possible, after Sussman is convicted, for Trump to sue him? Then it would allow Trump’s attorneys to go on the same type of fishing expedition he was so frequently the victim of, in addition to forcing Sussman to pay.
Can I just add: THANK GOD HILLARY DID NOT WIN IN 2016.
We need to give the GOP the House and Senate majorities in November.
I totally agree. It was Sessions who bungled everything. I wonder what he’s doing now.
Well, if the only ship that gets sunk by Durham is the USS Clinton, I’ll still throw a party! 🎉😁
The Clinton political lives are over. They are now expendable. The deep/corporate state are now firmly entrenched.
Directive number 1 is to now protect the political parties and their bureaucratic brethren so the corporatist can maintain control of the economy.
Agreed.
This will only deepen the public distrust in our institutions if only the margins are targeted-investigated and we get empty Clinesmith like empty punishments like probations. This isnt Justice for public corruption and racketering.
Great way to run a country.
The Deep State protects.
Well here we are, f**ked over again.
Three possibilities, they are unimaginably crooked or unimaginably stupid or both.
I am sticking with both.
John Durham is getting his allowable targets, investigative scope and marching orders from someone very powerful and that person is not in the government. They want no trail or evidence linking them to Durham! That you can count on!
FBI Was Duped While CIA Tried to Save Country From Clinton Schemes
…or…
the FBI, CIA and the Clinton Crime Family are merely different sub-species of the same Swamp Rat Syndicate, maneuvering to throw each under the Obama/Biden Short Bus as needed.
I think this is your stop, Granny.
Ask Seth Rich.
None of them were duped. In the very last sentence of his article, Sundance tells us that’s simply the pre-ordained conclusion towards which Durham’s investigation is headed…
To his credit, Sundance has maintained that exact same outlook for well over a year.
“The prosecutorial approach by John Durham positions all of the corruption outside the institutions of government, thereby protecting them.”
Capt. Durham is shocked, shocked…
If he were not approaching it that way, if he were going after the institutions and top rats within, he would be no longer. That’s my conspiracy theory about the institutional conspiratorial conduct.
OK, not mine. I learned it all right here like everyone else. SD reigns supreme!
Rest assured Hillary is shocked, just shocked, as well. Who could’ve ever imagined that devious attorney of hers could have cooked up such a scheme? The patsy has been identified and he is as f-ed as a J6 prisoner.
Yep!
So that is the reason to be used to fire everyone and disband the FBI as they are all failures and were stunningly bad in all their works.
Besides knowingly entrapping people for political motives and to show their stunning and brave failures of aiding and abetting all the criminals against the law abiding.
Still need to get rid of and disband all alphabet agencies as they were never allowed nor specified as legal for the federal government and their very specific limited powers of authority granted by the States for the People.
Our DOJ was in on it from ”go”, if not sleepy Jeff, then de facto AG, Rosenstein.
Rod Rosenstein and other big fish were pretty much carved out of the greater conspiracy by “You’ve got guns, use them” Lindsey Graham).
“No I would not have” signed the FISA application if I knew what I know now, Rosenstein told Graham in his June 2020 testimony to Congress….And with that admission (lie) that he did not read the document…Scope ‘Man’ was scolded and slinked away.
How could the FBI be duped when AG BARR admitted that the FBI knew that the Russian Collusion Dossier was a hoax in January 2017 because the guy who wrote it told them it was a hoax??? Doesn’t Durham know that!